Toyota Crown Signia: DON’T believe what Toyota is telling you!

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024

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  • @djsone3499
    @djsone3499 2 місяці тому +53

    240 HP and a 7.1 second 0-60 used to be sports car numbers. When this is considered low I think we're getting spoiled.

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 2 місяці тому +2

      With regards to acceleration, we are way beyond spoiled.

    • @nastynati3501
      @nastynati3501 2 місяці тому

      Amen

    • @agharuokansirim4935
      @agharuokansirim4935 2 місяці тому +3

      7.1 is feels fast. I don't know why people want 5 secs or less. It's dangerous

    • @Tosabang
      @Tosabang Місяць тому

      I totally agree👏

    • @brucefredrickson9677
      @brucefredrickson9677 Місяць тому

      We really don't need more.

  • @mikeklass2508
    @mikeklass2508 Місяць тому +17

    Your comment "Sadly a CVT" tells me you know nothing about Toyota Hybrids. THEY DO NOT USE BELT STYLE CVTs!!! They use completely GEAR DRIVEN CVTs that are speed adjusted by the rotational speed of one of the electric motors (through a GEAR box) in the FRONT TRANSMISSION. NO BELTS, CONES OR ANY OTHER PARTS FROM A STANDARD CVT!!!!! Which is why they NEVER break!!! My wife and I have decided this car will be the last car we ever buy (in retirement), we just hope it comes out as a plug-in!

  • @vlj1133
    @vlj1133 3 місяці тому +31

    No, Toyota does not need to change that e-CVT transmission, which isn't a CVT at all. Toyota's e-CVT is the best tranny on the market, bar none. Other than Honda's own e-CVT, which is, again, not a CVT, no other transmission comes close, in terms of reliability, low running costs, longevity, efficiency, usability, and overall execution. It's damn near a flawless design that will outlast the rest of the car. It's a perfect match for that motor, and this specific application. No one floors the gas pedal in a Camry Hybrid or Crown Insignia, so engine droning is simply not an issue. In real-world use, as in 99.9% of use, it does not drone, and is virtually indistinguishable from a conventional automatic transmission. The only differences lie in its advantages. A conventional tranny will never return anywhere near equivalent fuel mileage, nor will it last anywhere near as long, with so little required maintenance.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому +3

      40-50 mpg is what I'm getting. 500 miles per tank.

    • @brucefredrickson9677
      @brucefredrickson9677 Місяць тому +3

      Plus...this e-CVT is proven and bullet proof.

    • @cmiles97x38
      @cmiles97x38 6 днів тому +2

      E-CVT is all planetary gears and electric motors not the rubber bands of normal CVTS. Lots of UA-cam videos showing them apart and you will see how stout they are. I'd say more heavy duty than traditional transmissions.

    • @katherynscleaning5807
      @katherynscleaning5807 5 днів тому

      ua-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/v-deo.htmlsi=MfeEucFIhcd3vCLS yep

  • @hey-carbon
    @hey-carbon 3 місяці тому +74

    When people keep saying the Crown Signia (or most toyota vehicles) have a "CVT" when it in fact does not... it has specifically eCVT which is a completely different animal than the typical garbage "CVT" we all know.
    I really, really wish they had thought of a better name for it because these two are not the same, eCVT is superior in both reliability and maintenance - it uses planetary gears as opposed to CVT and their "belts".
    I implore everyone to do the same thing I did when I read "eCVT" for the first time: look for a simple youtube video and understand why it's better and stop lumping it with the CVT crap.

    • @dave1956
      @dave1956 3 місяці тому

      I have a CVT in my 2018 Honda CR-V. I like the smoothness but I really tire of the droning noise upon acceleration. I don’t care for the delay in the transmission when shifting into reverse or drive. Fortunately I am a fairly patient man!

    • @paulstein9258
      @paulstein9258 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes and no. The Toyota CVT has a one speed transmission and the droning bothered me enough where I traded my ultra low mileage Venza Hybrid for a Toyota Highlander Gas turbo. I get 40% less mpg but a much more pleasurable driving experience. The pluses for the Venza hybrid. Fast off a light. Good mpg. Long brake pad life.
      The negatives. Bad passing performance. Not for people wanting a good driving experience.

    • @Mac-t4y
      @Mac-t4y 3 місяці тому

      If you really want a true technical review then search for Care Care Nut.

    • @ivandoneshefsky4762
      @ivandoneshefsky4762 Місяць тому

      @@paulstein9258Agree totally. I have a 21 Venza Limited and the drone sound is maddening. As my car has aged, it’s getting noticeably louder (the factory tires have been changed out) which makes the driving experience worse. The Venza is an appliance that gets decent mpg, that’s it. Looking for my next car with an automatic transmission and has some “soul” to it.

    • @mikecoughlin4128
      @mikecoughlin4128 9 днів тому

      Agreed. I came here to say the same.

  • @markday5797
    @markday5797 3 місяці тому +77

    A wagon, bring on the wagons.

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 3 місяці тому +1

      Let's hope it's a trend and not a blip.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 3 місяці тому

      Really doesn't look like a traditional wagon shape. Guess this is as close as we are going to get from Toyota though.

    • @bbennett40
      @bbennett40 3 місяці тому +4

      Recently purchased a Mazda CX-50. It's very wagon-like IMHO. Maybe on the smaller side, but still...

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому

      No.

    • @eleanormassaro5195
      @eleanormassaro5195 2 місяці тому

      @@bbennett40agreed, coming from an owner of a CX 50. To me it’s like a sport wagon!😁

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 3 місяці тому +13

    7.1 seconds 0-60 is VERY GOOD, especially considering its curb weight. I’d take this all day for highway passing usability.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 3 місяці тому +47

    Many of us are THRILLED to see another wagon on the market.🥳🥳🥳🥳 I have only one substantial gripe: Instead of the gimmicky rear seat extenders, a traditional 40/20/40 rear seat would have made this Signia ideal for carrying skis and other long cargo. Adding a reclining and sliding feature would make that second row even better. 😉

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 3 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely

    • @TacoMonster4eva
      @TacoMonster4eva 3 місяці тому +2

      I have no idea why these reviewers are so against the E-CVTs. They are not the same as regular CVTs.

    • @johncorman8715
      @johncorman8715 3 місяці тому +1

      Right, the extenders don't actually add to the cargo space. Might be ok for me as a tall guy if I decided to nap/sleep in the back, but when's the last time I even thought about doing that?

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 місяці тому +1

      @@johncorman8715 I really don't know what they were thinking. Those flaps are a flop.

  • @randsipe224
    @randsipe224 3 місяці тому +15

    It’s an ECVT! Really quite different than a say Nisan CVT. More reliable because of the electric motors built into the transmission itself self.

  • @jsfbay1
    @jsfbay1 3 місяці тому +8

    I'll buy one when the Platinum trim comes out with the Hybrid Max powertrain. I love wagons but I love power too.

  • @billmarshall2536
    @billmarshall2536 3 місяці тому +5

    I have a Toyota with the sof-tex material, and I think it feels great. Very soft and comfortable. I've had leather seats before, and I don't feel like I'm settling for something that's less, just different. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @josephboot1
    @josephboot1 3 місяці тому +27

    I'm curious as to why you or anyone else brings up performance figures on anything else but a high performance vehicle? Who cares? When would those numbers ever matter to the person buying this? They're not going to race with anyone, maybe commute to work, get groceries or go on a road trip. If it does that well with great reliability and fuel economy then that's all that matters. No wonder the car industry is out of control with soft touch everywhere, the simplest functions are all high tech and every vehicle loaded with nanny aids making people worse drivers. The prices are skyrocketing, everything is measured in horsepower and performance numbers and gadgets instead of what it was meant to do.

    • @Pamlicojdjdj1487
      @Pamlicojdjdj1487 3 місяці тому +1

      I do care for the price. And this thing is a dog

    • @addanametocontinue
      @addanametocontinue 3 місяці тому

      Because ain't nobody wanting to drive a car that goes 0-60 in 10 seconds or something ridiculous like that, especially prices that are over $20k.

    • @skagerstrom
      @skagerstrom 2 місяці тому

      Totally agree. But it's an 'murican thing. Even the car that does the school runs have to do 0-60 in 5 seconds. Otherwise it's too slow for stop and go traffic...

    • @skagerstrom
      @skagerstrom 2 місяці тому

      @@addanametocontinue But this does it in 7something. On the quicker side of just normal performance.

    • @unkwm128
      @unkwm128 5 днів тому

      Absolutely who care 0 to 60?

  • @mirceamunteanu4791
    @mirceamunteanu4791 3 місяці тому +8

    Love wagons, will buy one sure, M3 touring is my favorite car model . Dude it's a ECVT not a belt-chain CVT like in any other car, has lots of low end torque

  • @stevemartegani
    @stevemartegani 3 місяці тому +14

    GR Crown wagon please?
    Bring on the wagons! GR Corolla Wagon, WRX wagon, GTI Wagon, all of them!

    • @Supertrooper697
      @Supertrooper697 3 місяці тому +1

      I want a GR Prius for the memes.

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 3 місяці тому +1

      You have a better chance to learn a skill set, makes jlot of money and buy an Audi RS6 wagon then get any of these mentioned in the US.

    • @stevemartegani
      @stevemartegani 3 місяці тому +1

      @jml9550 Actually, I'll have a better chance of just waiting for the 25 year import rule LOL

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому +3

      I have been after my contacts @ VW to bring over a wagon that already exists: The Golf R Wagon. They are absolutely missing the boat on that one. They already sell EVERY Golf R they can make - to the kind of people that would buy an E63 wagon if they could afford it - and still nada. They could bring that car over, sell it for US$60,000 and still not be able to build enough!

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 3 місяці тому

      @@stevemartegani haha never thought about that. I will tell you I have seen a few Nissan Skyline R34 on the road, right hand drive

  • @brianwhitney9181
    @brianwhitney9181 3 місяці тому +5

    Wow, and you get the bonus of no spare tire instead a tire inflation repair kit. 😂😂😂

  • @franzvanjulio5523
    @franzvanjulio5523 3 місяці тому +4

    Always fun to watch your review, MotoMan. Be well.

  • @jn9604
    @jn9604 2 місяці тому +4

    I wish the XLE had cloth seats. Most people I now that have softex don't like it. I prefer fabric. More comfortable and wears like iron compared to leather.

    • @stevennevins6643
      @stevennevins6643 23 дні тому

      It’s real leather

    • @jn9604
      @jn9604 23 дні тому

      @@stevennevins6643 just as bad as softex. I like cloth seats ....

  • @blakerust6777
    @blakerust6777 3 місяці тому +10

    Love the styling. One issue: luxury cars don’t have 240hp. Especially when they weigh 4200lbs.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому +2

      Have to agree.

    • @RayanMADAO
      @RayanMADAO 3 місяці тому +2

      The luxury comes from the fact that it gets almost 40mpg and the powertrain can last a long time with 0 zero issues

    • @Pamlicojdjdj1487
      @Pamlicojdjdj1487 3 місяці тому

      1000% I briefly considered this as my next vehicle replacement but the powertrain was definitely a downgrade. The power to weight ratio vs cost is just not there.

    • @Pamlicojdjdj1487
      @Pamlicojdjdj1487 3 місяці тому

      @@RayanMADAODebatable. Toyota is having a lot of QC issues as of late (Tundra is a dumpster fire) and the recent scandals in Japan are uncovering a reality many Toyota fanboys and apologists don’t want to acknowledge.

    • @blakerust6777
      @blakerust6777 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RayanMADAO what you’re describing is an economy car such as a Yaris or Prius. Don’t get me wrong, the reason Lexus is my favorite luxury brand is because of their reliability. But their performance is nowhere near the performance of German cars.

  • @67tomcat
    @67tomcat 3 місяці тому +7

    Looks really nice- remove some of the shiny black cladding and it would be even better. Great review as always!

  • @DefundTheFringes
    @DefundTheFringes 3 місяці тому +5

    Sir, do you not understand that Toyota's eCVT is nothing like a standard belt CVT? It's one of the most reliable automatic transmissions out there, if not the most.

    • @jonathanratliff4780
      @jonathanratliff4780 3 місяці тому +2

      The evidence of him mislabeling it every time in his review he apparently does not because there is indeed a big distinction between the two which are quite different transmissions explained well by the ace Toyota technician over at the car care nut channel.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 3 місяці тому +1

      Correct.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jonathanratliff4780His ignorance is bigger than this wagon. Not acknowledging it in anyone's reply shows. At least drop a note in the comments section acknowledging it.

  • @la897
    @la897 3 місяці тому +1

    Motoman…you made me laugh out load 2 times during the review. The breathing through a wet towel and the Subaru comment were so perfect.
    Sadly the wife and I just traded in our 2012 Outback with 205,000 miles for a Trailsport Pilot. The old Outback never left us stranded but after driving the Pilot I do not miss it.
    Your videos are great…never stop being you.

  • @GaryLindland
    @GaryLindland 3 місяці тому +6

    You would think Toyota would have had gas installed lift struts for the hood, Come on Toyota.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm okay without one. One more thing to replace eventually.

  • @InPursuit2023
    @InPursuit2023 3 місяці тому +6

    @motomantv I agree that the Hybrid Max drivetrain would be better for this car (when it weighs 4200lbs) but in this application, the transmission *is* the electric motors + planetary. It's not "connected to a CVT". The Hybrid Max would lose about 10mpg, and infringe on Lexus products.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 3 місяці тому +2

      Sadly, very few reviewers truly understand how modern vehicles work (even worse: they think they do).

    • @johncorman8715
      @johncorman8715 3 місяці тому

      The other thing is how much the Max would add to the price of this car. Already I see commenters wincing at the high sticker cost.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому

      ​@@michaels3003Alex on Auto knows.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому

      ​@@johncorman8715$9k plus dealer mark up will kill any enthusiasm for this car. I'll keep my Venza.

  • @billshoe22191
    @billshoe22191 3 місяці тому +13

    A Venza that now costs $9k more. Price on this is ridiculous. Just no.

    • @venictos
      @venictos 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah it should start around 37.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому +2

      Then there's dealer mark up. Dealers will kill this car before it's properly introduced to the public. Watch. Just like EV's, Chevy Trucks Tundra and Tacomas sitting on their lots for 6 months to a year because of insane mark ups.

    • @NomenClature-o8s
      @NomenClature-o8s Місяць тому

      @@venictosYou couldn’t produce anything close to this for $37k and make a profit.

  • @PrzemyslawSliwinski
    @PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 місяці тому +16

    2:22 - I believe you meant *one* thousand nine hundred kilograms (~4200 lb). Or... those with the metric system will get a ton of the extra weight for free! ;)
    PS
    I miss station wagons too...

    • @charliekrajewski3646
      @charliekrajewski3646 3 місяці тому +1

      I can't believe someone checked him on that...good job!

    • @djd2819
      @djd2819 3 місяці тому +3

      I just posted the same thing. Living anywhere but in the US, hearing 2900 kgs certainly pricks up the ears.

  • @Sajikibara
    @Sajikibara 3 місяці тому +5

    I would totally jump on it if they had a different engine :/
    It’s pretty much what I’m looking for but I wouldn’t mind a sportier engine that wasn’t a cvt.

    • @Sajikibara
      @Sajikibara 3 місяці тому +1

      Being a hybrid is good though, I do like that a lot

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 3 місяці тому +4

      It's an eCVT. All good efficiency oriented hybrids are CVT.

  • @berniemadoff7837
    @berniemadoff7837 3 місяці тому +2

    My honest opinion?
    It's a tiny RV
    With this and a gym membership you can live indefinitely in one.
    The holes in the panels are for reaching into the laundry baskets in the footwells that hold food and drinks on one side and clothing along with your shower kit on the other.
    With home prices out of reach this is the next best thing.

    • @MrWillaqui
      @MrWillaqui 3 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂😂👍👍👍

  • @rodneykelly1651
    @rodneykelly1651 3 місяці тому +8

    I had to watch motoman first. He brings it like no other!

  • @larryderby4901
    @larryderby4901 Місяць тому

    GREAT presentation-you kept it simple and made things easier to understand. One suggestion for ALL of your reviews is to mention horsepower and torque in foot pounds and WHEN max torque is delivered. Beemers feel powerful because of a lot of things but max torque is delivered in the 1500-1900 RPM range which is almost instantly from a stop. If max torque is delivered over 3000 RPMs, that vehicle will feel almost sluggish. This is my viewing of your work and I've subscribe.

    • @Alan-z7i6t
      @Alan-z7i6t Місяць тому +1

      Now it's just down to color choice for me - I'm all in.

  • @cheapercharlie
    @cheapercharlie 3 місяці тому +10

    If this vehicle came with the Hybrid MAX Powertrain at the price points mentioned I would still struggle justifying the additional monies required over top of the 41K that could secure a Subaru Outback XT Limited.
    Also the way this vehicle implements its CVT would drive me crazy. That drone.
    Impressive MPGs though.

    • @BlackMan614
      @BlackMan614 3 місяці тому

      Had one Subie Outback oil burner. Never again.

    • @cheapercharlie
      @cheapercharlie 3 місяці тому

      @@BlackMan614 Had my previous one for 10 years, no oil burn.

    • @BlackMan614
      @BlackMan614 3 місяці тому

      @@cheapercharlie That is because it only affected certain years, duh. It was rampant and despite class action lawsuits, Subaru acted in bad faith and can never be trusted.

    • @cheapercharlie
      @cheapercharlie 3 місяці тому

      @@BlackMan614 If it only impacted certain years why the never again?

    • @BlackMan614
      @BlackMan614 3 місяці тому

      @@cheapercharlie They know/knew of the issue, yet failed to do anything about it. Literally saying until the FTC forces them to recall - they won't. Knowing full-well, recalls are 90% done voluntarily.
      Then, they quietly settle the class action lawsuits making sure the consumer gets nothing - only the law firms. These are deceptive business practices and I refuse to deal with corporation who treat customers the way they do.
      Plus... have you looked at the prices of Outbacks? You can get better cars for the price they are asking - like this Toyota!!

  • @scottvickery2057
    @scottvickery2057 3 місяці тому +1

    We have a CRV now and one of the best things about it is getting in and out of it. It's not to low or too high...How easy is this to get in and out of?

  • @michaelv6870
    @michaelv6870 3 місяці тому +2

    The perfect CPO commuter car. 3 years old, 15 k miles , owned by a retiree for $ 20,000.

    • @vzhickok
      @vzhickok 3 місяці тому +1

      lol take a look at how much cpo toyotas go for at 15k miles. maybe 20% drop, and with hybrids it's like a 10% drop at most.

    • @michaelv6870
      @michaelv6870 3 місяці тому

      @@vzhickok Maybe a Corolla or a Camry. The Crown? Not so much lol. Nobody wants that pretzel of a car.

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 3 місяці тому +4

    Wow, you can really see it in the footage. Despite how Toyota tried to style this, it looks like a wagon. It's longer, narrower and lower than any SUV I've seen.
    Now its odd how different they made the Cignia look to the Crown, considering the whole point of Crown being a one car multiple forms type deal.
    And considering the CVT, I think its possible to program it more like a "premium" transmission vs replace it; Toyota's whole hybrid system depends on that kind of system. If they went traditional transmission it would just go back to the Aisen 8 speed, which isn't all that impressive on its own.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому +1

      Other OEMs - particularly premium OEMs - have proven they can make a hybrid more 'performance' oriented. That is what this model needs - at least a variant. And they already have the powertrain in a similar version of this car - (ua-cam.com/video/YUZRuepCkV0/v-deo.html) and it better fits the mission and personality of this car.

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 3 місяці тому

      @@MotoManTV ah I see, that does sound more desirable in the Crown.

  • @farcinue
    @farcinue 2 місяці тому +4

    I’d be sold if it had a little more ground clearance for snow and soft roading.

    • @royhughes2854
      @royhughes2854 2 дні тому

      Agree TOTALLY! My bad knees stop me from driving a sedan because to get in and to get out is a real not pretty effort. Whereas in an SUV I will sit higher and I can get in and out rather comfortably. And THAT is the only reason why it breaks my heart to pass on this Crown Signia.

  • @JoJoBucks
    @JoJoBucks 19 днів тому

    MotoMan, a suggestion. If you want us to take your videos seriously, I suggest you do a little research on the eCVT transmission. It is similar to a CVT transmission in name only. Further, 0-60 in 7.1 seconds, would 7 seconds have satisfied you?

  • @laipply1
    @laipply1 3 місяці тому +2

    How quiet is it in the second row?

  • @mikecoughlin4128
    @mikecoughlin4128 9 днів тому

    That transmission is from the Highlander. It is there precisely for the reason of being able to move the weight plus the towing capacity. It is a tried and true tranny. I really hope you read the comments and realize that in the future you need to do more background research prior to shooting.

  • @davidvanaert6934
    @davidvanaert6934 3 місяці тому

    Great review MotoMan! I think this vehicle looks amazing and the hybrid fuel economy is impressive. It's too bad Toyota isn't offering these in more models/specs. They could have the hybrid max version, and perhaps even an outdoorsy version with matte black cladding and trail-worthy tires. Having said that, I'm guessing the majority of people will opt for the hybrid. In Canada we get even less choices - only the limited! Hopefully it sells well and they bring more options in the future.

  • @InPursuit2023
    @InPursuit2023 3 місяці тому +2

    XLE isn't a "bargain basement cheap seats" trim level for Toyota, it's just the lowest trim level this comes in. Also, leather seating surfaces are common on higher trim Toyotas, such as the XSE Camry.

    • @jonathanratliff4780
      @jonathanratliff4780 3 місяці тому

      And not just the XSE Camry but the also the more luxurious XLe Camry

  • @roryrosszell2490
    @roryrosszell2490 17 днів тому +1

    For those who care, 4200 lbs is 1900 kg (not 2900 kg!).

  • @karennz1099
    @karennz1099 3 місяці тому +1

    I think it’s great but really wish they had the macadamia color interior as option as the do in the sedan.

  • @Dillingham-
    @Dillingham- 3 місяці тому +1

    Long time Toyota fan, love those Crown taxis in Japan, but realized that you can get a nicely equipped Acura MDX with a V6 and North American elbow room for similar money as this Signia.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 місяці тому

      Not nearly as much mpg.

    • @lisakluge675
      @lisakluge675 2 місяці тому

      Acura is accurately missing the mark by not offering a hybrid option.

  • @blazinmark1
    @blazinmark1 3 місяці тому +2

    @Motoman, everyone will cross-shop the crown-wagon with an entry level RX350 AWD, or Highlander... American's "need" their SUV's.
    Anecdotally, wife's Q5 lease ended and we cross-shopped the RX350 with GV80... We ended up with the RX. (This is coming from a BMW X5 50e owner).
    Still waiting patiently for your review of the X5 50e. TY

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому +2

      HUGE shift! Intrigued to learn what factors led to an RX over a German SUV. Not certain what I can tell you - other than no yet in the LA fleet - that you don't already know:)

    • @blazinmark1
      @blazinmark1 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MotoManTV math was very simple…
      Wife has 0 interest in dynamics. She wanted comfort and reliability. Our goal was to buy the Q5 after the lease term ended. But the numbers didn’t add up.
      We decided to choose a vehicle for her with a better residual at lease end. (My plan is buy out the RX after 3 years since she barely drives 7,000/yr.
      She wanted an appliance, I obliged lol.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому

      @@blazinmark1 Good! More money down the road for your 911.

    • @blazinmark1
      @blazinmark1 3 місяці тому

      @@MotoManTV ❤️

  • @bobsctx8166
    @bobsctx8166 3 місяці тому +3

    Love your reviews however I drive an RX 450 HF sport and it has the best transmission I’ve ever had in an RX. It’s the same one that’s in the Signia. It’s not a CVT. It’s the same kind of transmission that’s in a Prius or any other hybrid Toyota, it’s nothing like the CVTs that Nissan sells or Honda. This transmission is far superior to the eight speed I had in previous RX 350s. oh and by the way, it gets great gas mileage.

  • @redmusichouse
    @redmusichouse 3 місяці тому +2

    5:55 sheesh that sound fx scared the beejezus outta me

  • @Mr99Burns
    @Mr99Burns 3 місяці тому +2

    Want crown sport

  • @MrVanceBarbour
    @MrVanceBarbour 3 місяці тому

    Doesn't it have an eCVT? The first gear is actually a gear used with an electric motor to get the vehicle up to speed, then the CVT part of the transmission kicks in. That gives great initial pickup and less wear and tear on the "cone" when in full flight, if you will.

  • @markcoopers1930
    @markcoopers1930 3 місяці тому +2

    Beggars can't be choosers, and with only* 6.7" of ground clearance they did technically give us a wagon via the golf alltrak/Buick Regal TourX/ route. The current outback "wagon" is pumped up to over 8".
    That said i already gave VW guff for making the id7 "sedan" have a ride height somewhere between 5.9" and 6.3" (how is this still unconfirmed?). And a full GR version lowered to 4.5" would be a fun choice

    • @Pamlicojdjdj1487
      @Pamlicojdjdj1487 3 місяці тому

      It doesn’t matter because VW has put an indefinite hold on the ID.7 to sell it in North America. VW EVs are not selling well and the VW dealer network is pushing back on these dogs that don’t sell well. Sad they discontinued the Arteon 1 year earlier for the supposed intro of the ID.7 which in the end never happened😂. Now VW has no sedan left other than the Mexican made Jetta.

  • @JMinTexas
    @JMinTexas 3 місяці тому +1

    An eCVT. Much better, and different, than a CVT.

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 8 днів тому

    Absolutely love the exterior/station wagon look…drove it today…disappointing…feels so small from the cockpit with the low roofline and high center console (some prefer that)…don’t understand the glass roof bar that goes across the top…it’s right in the way of the driver so you feel like you have an 8 inch window…Thought the engine was a little loud…If i were to get it, would prefer the XLE with the tech package, but you can’t get that…car does feel heavy…overall, it should be cheaper. The exterior is all new, but everything inside is from the Toyota parts bin…Should be a 40k car loaded, not 50+…for 50+, you’d be better off getting a mini-van…very bummed…had such high expectations after seeing all the reviews talking about how it’s a Lexus for 10k less…it’s not…

  • @mattheviewer
    @mattheviewer 13 днів тому

    Interesting if heavy wagon-like Toyota, but he limited's 21" wheels makes it NW Pothole food, unfortunately. As for dislike of Outback (couldn't find any review here stating exactly what was bad), the next Outback will be longer, wider, also equipped with 20"+ wheels, and AI as part of its driver safety system (" I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave" (nor anyone else)").

  • @djd2819
    @djd2819 3 місяці тому

    Long time follower of this channel and love George's reviews. Love wagons but not sure about this one.
    At 2:00, George tells us that the car weighs 4,210 lbs or just over 2,900 kgs. He meant to save 1,900 kgs. Yeah, it's heavy but it's not THAT heavy.

  • @Yaba414
    @Yaba414 9 днів тому

    Strapped to a CVT? you're wrong here, its an E-CVT and its completely different from a conventional CVT.

  • @dave1956
    @dave1956 3 місяці тому

    I will be in the market for a new vehicle in about a year. I am not a huge fan of driving a hybrid but admittedly I haven’t driven one in about 6 years. Hopefully this smoother than the 2005 Prius that we had at work for a loaner car.

  • @Jedi_Order81
    @Jedi_Order81 3 місяці тому +9

    That's a good looking wagon!

  • @johnflorida3391
    @johnflorida3391 4 дні тому

    Like my real Venza from 2013 not the last one Rav4 jacked

  • @scottab36
    @scottab36 28 днів тому

    Please educate yourself on the difference between CVT and ECVT transmissions. They're not the same. ECVT transissions have no belts, no chains. Just planetary gears and electric motors.

  • @michaelvella8511
    @michaelvella8511 14 днів тому

    Why no tinted glass ??

  • @romanopeterj
    @romanopeterj 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the review. I am soon to be an empty nester (youngest off to college in the fall). I currently drive a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited which lease ends Summer of 26. I like the Jeep but thinking of something sportier that is around $50-$55K. I can't get an EV since I live in Manhattan and don't have access to chargers so this cold be a good compromise. Not loving the CVT though.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому

      Congratulations on getting the last one closer to off the payroll:)

  • @philipphanslovsky5101
    @philipphanslovsky5101 2 місяці тому

    This one came out too late. Was looking for a wagon and would have strongly considered this one. Given all options I went with a sedan instead.
    I didn't like the Crown sedan (it sits too high) but could've lived with that in a wagon. I hope the crown signia will still be around when I buy my next car

  • @sagdag
    @sagdag 3 місяці тому

    How does it compare to the Volvo wagons? Those are much closer in price point than the Audi or Mercedes-Benz.

  • @dearbulls
    @dearbulls 3 місяці тому +3

    That dash looks a lot like last gen Hyundai Palisade.

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 3 місяці тому +1

      or best in class. impressive in so many ways.

    • @dearbulls
      @dearbulls 3 місяці тому +1

      @@cbotten106 yes, that was a compliment for Toyota

  • @petrlysonek6447
    @petrlysonek6447 Місяць тому

    Will be in Europe too? A
    I want it!

  • @cmiles97x38
    @cmiles97x38 6 днів тому

    E-CVT is all planetary gears and electric motors not the rubber bands of normal CVTS. Lots of UA-cam videos showing them apart and you will see how stout they are. I'd say more heavy duty than traditional transmissions.

  • @timothyburnside3229
    @timothyburnside3229 3 місяці тому

    Toyota builds high-quality, nice-looking vehicles at fair prices with good service, but are not great to drive and when you try to please no one! That said I like the way it looks and the features for the price are a good value. But all of the sudden Toyota is falling way short in reliability on certain models, the new Tundra is a disaster and any CVT gives a me pause until it proves it can pass long-term. Great review as always, anything that makes you think or your heart flutters is well worth the time, at least you always make your audience think and evaluate!!

  • @wuchengranschiiet9992
    @wuchengranschiiet9992 3 місяці тому +2

    Is this the new Ferrari SUV?

  • @FranzJx
    @FranzJx 3 місяці тому +1

    I think I'll stick with the scion xB

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 3 місяці тому

      That brand was discontinued a while back.

  • @KoreanAmericanLawyer.NewPortBe
    @KoreanAmericanLawyer.NewPortBe 3 місяці тому +1

    Hyundai Kia EVs are light years ahead of BMW BENZ and AUDI

  • @user-qc7dr3cd3q
    @user-qc7dr3cd3q 3 місяці тому +2

    Worth $38k

  • @tbecon
    @tbecon 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for a fantastic review. Station wagons are back!? This is a station wagon, it's ground clearance and seating position is too low to be otherwise. I know that the SUV label sales but let's get real, it is what it is and that is nothing to be ashamed of. I liked the Venza, this is bigger, more expensive and less efficient than that but I think it will be well received and should sell well, I may even get one just because I like the practicality and honesty of what it is, don't like that Toyota is marketing it as an SUV, that's not honest.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому

      I'm one hoping for wagon sales to rebound in the US.

  • @bmacrc46
    @bmacrc46 3 місяці тому

    The Signia is on my shopping list partly due to its planetary gear transmission. If they offered it with a conventional transmission I would scratch it off my list.

  • @kyrosmike
    @kyrosmike 3 місяці тому

    Yea problem always put cool stuff on more expensive models, like wagon is a Crown but not a Camry wagon (corolla cross is a wagon...). I want to row my own gears in a Tacoma yet I have to get at least 4x4 TRD sport.

  • @monserratmunoz8110
    @monserratmunoz8110 3 місяці тому

    filmed a few mintues from my home! What shoes are those?

  • @timvibes
    @timvibes 3 місяці тому +1

    Too expensive. Wouldn't pay over 35k. Overinflated car market.

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 3 місяці тому +1

    8:00 What a shame. Not surprised given most ppl are sheep given they have no thoughts of their own. Personally id love some fabrics back into interiors. Patterns, textures, but FABRIC yes. Leather absolutely. Ive never been keen on the leatherette products from any brand. Meh. Automakers are missing out on these ideas. Here is the rub for those "focus groups" Just because you gave them options doesn't mean they wouldn't pick fabric if you did it right and showed them. At this point in time you think fabric in cars you go to the 80's and say ew. That was 50 years ago!

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for reminding us that the 80s was so long ago:)

  • @ag4eng
    @ag4eng 3 місяці тому

    Toyota should put the 340hp Hybrid Max engine with Direct4 on a sporty TRD version.

  • @smarticus6384
    @smarticus6384 Місяць тому

    A CVT and an eCVT are mechanically nothing alike except that they are variable transmissions. Repeat nothing. I can not understand why people in this review business seem to lack an understanding of vehicle mechanics.

  • @sethgunn8256
    @sethgunn8256 3 місяці тому

    MB E450 AT owner supports this vehicle.

  • @doublehh666
    @doublehh666 3 місяці тому

    I like it. Goes against the grain somewhat. Have to provide options like these to consumers or the car landscape is too full of either boring SUVs or ultra luxe rocket powered ones.

  • @ianjay5301
    @ianjay5301 3 місяці тому

    The difference between this and your beloved German wagons is that for those of us who keep our vehicles, buying a BMW or Audi is a crapshoot. German cars should be leased, not bought. The Toyota will deliver service long after that Audi has lost a cylinder and now needs a new engine.

  • @cbotten106
    @cbotten106 3 місяці тому

    Arrivederci SoftTex. I cannot disagree with the decision to jettison the pleather.

  • @JohnZolla-bp7tl
    @JohnZolla-bp7tl 3 місяці тому +1

    No go. I'll keep my Outback.

  • @Escanor990
    @Escanor990 3 місяці тому

    Make crown signia 38-40k and we'll buy it🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @10cpaul
    @10cpaul 3 місяці тому

    Seems like a wagon to me , and I do like that! The Japan version has a race car version.... bring to USA

  • @comickebs748
    @comickebs748 3 місяці тому

    I really need a PRIME PHEV variant of this, Toyota. Build it and I’ll shut up and give you my money.

  • @jissanhuq3792
    @jissanhuq3792 3 місяці тому

    I can’t believe they still do fake leather in Lexus cars. What a blasphemy especially when this looks better now than some of the lexus SUVs interior and exterior . This car is so close to perfect if it was just a hair faster at its price or even sold at Lexus you’d get the better dealer experience

  • @ericB3444
    @ericB3444 3 місяці тому +2

    I like the way the car has a red nose and is ready for red nose day 2025.

  • @In-obscurity-n7j
    @In-obscurity-n7j 2 місяці тому

    I like the message

  • @mr.grumpygrumpy2035
    @mr.grumpygrumpy2035 3 місяці тому

    They should have an LE trim in the mid 30s

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 3 місяці тому +2

    Wagons are so much better than suvs.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  3 місяці тому +2

      1,000% agree!

    • @NomenClature-o8s
      @NomenClature-o8s Місяць тому

      @@MotoManTVI was in Lucerne, Switzerland two weeks ago…wagons everywhere.

  • @weeklywash
    @weeklywash 3 місяці тому

    If they add power it will sell much more among the younger generation... As it sits it only going to appeal to an older retired demographic

  • @red.riot.2280
    @red.riot.2280 8 днів тому

    I hope they bring the crown sport. And ditch the cvt. Lol.

  • @forumboss2620
    @forumboss2620 28 днів тому

    This guy jabbers a lot and misses some key points. I test drove the Crown Signia Limited last week. PROS: The external styling and paint is very good; the front seat is very good - best seat in Toyota I’ve ever tried; car is fast enough and visibility is quite good. CONS: the price in CA was $57000 with that tech package; the rear seats don’t adjust for angle and have a flat, mediocre feel; the motor is fairly noisy on acceleration; the Glass roof significantly reduces headroom, and the white car’s all black interior was gloomy. I later saw the lower priced XLE model in Bronze Age color with tan seats and door panels. No glass roof, it was $46400. Still pricey because CA tax and registration will approach $4500. My remaining concern are the headlights. I have scheduled an night drive this week and I will determine whether the low-mounted headlights are adequate. Overall so far I would rate the styling an A, the interior a B+, the driver’s seat an A-, the drive train an A-, the rear seats a C, the glass roof a C-. If the headlights prove below average in coverage and intensity that will be a dealbreaker and I will be looking at a Mazda CX-70 or a Lexus.

  • @shawnacevedo8842
    @shawnacevedo8842 3 місяці тому

    need the turbo hybrid in this with 400 lbft torque so it'll be a semi hot wagon

  • @douglaskaye1395
    @douglaskaye1395 2 місяці тому

    I still wish that it was a plug-in hybrid

  • @dietergoettling5120
    @dietergoettling5120 3 місяці тому

    no spare tire?

  • @wattheheck6010
    @wattheheck6010 2 місяці тому

    Does it have a spare tire???

  • @superalain1961
    @superalain1961 3 місяці тому

    Let’s go crazy… Toyota make a GR VERSION !

  • @ernestkj
    @ernestkj 3 місяці тому +1

    not even a single crown logo badge at all?

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 3 місяці тому

      You could buy one if that was a deal breaker.

  • @catherinejacobs4801
    @catherinejacobs4801 2 місяці тому

    QUESTION: Why haven’t you reviewed any Subaru’s in more than a decade?

  • @jamesrebbechi5247
    @jamesrebbechi5247 3 місяці тому +8

    Buy enough of these people and Toyota might just bring back the Camry wagon.

    • @chuckwalla2967
      @chuckwalla2967 3 місяці тому +1

      They won't. It'll be redundant.

    • @Tritonal92
      @Tritonal92 3 місяці тому

      This IS literally a Camry wagon

    • @jamesrebbechi5247
      @jamesrebbechi5247 3 місяці тому

      @@Tritonal92 I agree and I like a lot but unfortunately we’re not getting the Crown here in Australia. We’ve had a 2002 Camry wagon (ex-Coca Cola reps car) replaced at 650kms by a 2007 Camry sedan which is still in daily use today. Great machines.

    • @jamesrebbechi5247
      @jamesrebbechi5247 3 місяці тому

      Correction: actually read as 1992 & 1997 - but whats in a decade right ? 🤣