that never works building still gets fucked on those servers. the only time building should be brought down is if your team does not have control of it.
Grumpy Stormtrooper what i hate is when my own team mates blow up the sky scarper we are in control of. the sky scraper being down doesnt particularly bother me as i never stay on the skyscraper for very long. i end up going to b and a if the enemy control it, those 2 points are my favorite really. ive had more gun fights in those areas then i have on the tower.
I'm mainly an infantry player so I enjoy the Locker and Metro maps but I'll leave those out of my list here. Top 5 for me: 1) Shanghai 2) Pearl Market 3) Zavod 4) Propaganda 5) Operation Outbreak
I really don’t understand dawnbreaker hate. It’s a good infantry and armor map, and the only downsides are helicopters have too much cover and C is a shitshow
I bought BF4 Premium a few days ago, played Pearl Market for the first time without knowing what this map is all about. Well as an infantry only player, i was totally blown away. Its literally the best i could ask for. Note that i was playing the vanilla version of this game for over a year, and locker was the only conquest map i enjoyed and a few TDM version of other vanilla maps. :)
Pearl Market is one of my most disliked maps in BF4. I think the verticality throws me off. If I played more of it I would probably like it. Great video.
My top 7 favorites in no particular order (one from base game and one of each from every dlc) 1. Seige of Shaghai; base game 2. Gulf of Oman; Second Assault 3. Silk Road; China Rising 4. Pearl Market; Dragons Teeth 5. Wavebreaker; Naval Strike 6. Hangar 21; Final Stand 7. Dragon Valley; community maps
This video was done very well. I agree with every map you have on the list. I would also include Firestorm since I never got a chance to play 64 players in BF3. I think Pearl Market doesn't get the credit it deserves. Its a blast to play on hardcore!
I remember the game where I got 65 kills and a 3 KD on Golmud Rush, playing with a squad that communicated well. Most fun I've ever had in Battlefield...
Just realized that Siege of Shanghai is somehow a Wake Island 2.0 with Bridges and a destructable Skyscraper in the middle. Maybe that's another reason for the popularity of that map.
No one is going to read this but aight. I play on ps3 so only conquest small and max 24 players. Also there are a lot of framedrops. I also do not own any paid dlc. 1.Operation Locker 😍 I luv hectic, tactical infantry gameplay and this map delivers just that. The cafeteria is my fav point followed by the cells. The only thing I despise about it is the middle point (The Tower). There is no cover around it and the frame drop is ridiculous. 2.Siege of Shanghai 😄 Pretty good infantry gameplay on the skyscraper and on point C (conquest small). Driving tanks and flying choppers is also pretty satisfying. 3.Dawnbreaker 😀 Particularly good on Rush as the attacking side. But conquest is pretty good as well, especially when folks are not camping on the rooftops. 4.Rogue Transmission 😊 Fun time between helipad and radiotelescope. Jets can be useful as well. 5.Zavod 311 ☺ So many good and few things bad. Insanely good infantry action in the main facility between points B and C. D and A are mediocre at best and the rooftop campers can be a pain in the ass. Its also good in Rush 6.Golmud Railway 😑 Too big for 12v12. Often nothing happens for a solid 5 minutes when suddenly you are blown to smithereens by a random tank. 7.Paracel Storm 😒 Laggy as f and also too big although ridin boats is usually fun. Not the choppers tho. Stingers everywhere and nowhere to hide. 8.Flood Zone 😣 Fun in Rush due to lack of vehicles. Otherwise dull as ditchwater and annoying to move from point A and C to anywhere. 9.Hainan Resort 😭 TOO BIG, stupid campers on the hotel and poor infantry combat. 10.Lancang Dam 😠 C'mon, its bad in every mode, even tdm. Annoying LAVs and contant boredom. Ugh, I quit every time its the next map on the list.
Simple Shadow is conquest small bigger on current gen than on old gen? From what I’ve gathered it’s 12v12(plus commanders) on ps3 and 16v16(plus commanders) on ps4; is this right?
I'm flattered that you used my data :) TOP video as always! 5. Silk Road 4. Pearl Market 3. Golmud Railway 2. Zavod 311 1. Paracel Storm Well, I like vehicles (but the MAA).
I know a lot of players dislike siege of shanghai, but the amount of unbelievably close games I had on this map vastly outweigh all other maps. Probably combined. Very often you'll find teams fighting and winning just by the edge of the teeth, with like 20 point difference. A lot of tense game finales. Lots of epic moments. Vehicles, infantry, tactics. It all comes together so well on this map.
Greatly enjoy your vids, Darth (particularly with the use of stats). You're the only channel that has managed to keep BF4 interesting despite the end of CTE.
The only map I truly love is Zavod 311 (I don't usually play on DLC maps). I'd love to say many of vanilla maps are actually good, if there were no roof camping. I wish I could play on shanghai, flood zone, dawn breaker, rogue, etc without roof camping. There are way too many roof camping spots that are painful to access, or only accessible by chopper IMO. Elevators are usually just suicide boxes, there are not enough ladders, stairs. I have no problem with vertical gameplay but roof camping in BF4 is just exhausting, not fun.
Easily Siege after I found servers with no levolution, chopper kill limits, no uncap camping, and most importantly active admins, who enforce the rules. Fantastic gameplay. Zavod is my second favorite, but unlike Siege, there is no way of breaking out from a spawn trap, which happens time to time. A good tanker, AA and scout pilot together can easily dominate a whole team. Absolute blast on hardcore, IF you have a server with strict sniper limits. Least favorite: Dawnbreaker. Unbalanced teams lead to rooftop camping and just waiting for the ticket bleed to do it's job. Spawn trapping is easy. Jets on this map - why on earth?
Another thing about Pearl Market that wasn't mentioned, and that ALOT of players don't realize: its BY FAR the most enjoyable map to play as a Commander on. You get Cruise Missiles on that map, but unlike other maps where it can take upwards to 30 seconds for the missile to arrive, the lead time in Pearl Market is super short at around 11 seconds. This means that as soon as you fire it: it arrives very quickly. On top of that: the blast penetrates through everything. If enemies are inside the building you're aiming for: they're probably dead, and with the density of some of these buildings, you can rack up ALOT of kills on it. I once got MVP on Conquest Small Pearl Market as a Commander, and MVP as a Commander basically never happens... but I did it.
I don't know why I am watching this some 2,5 years later but I still enjoyed and appreciate your view on the subject matter. Guess BF4 still keeps it hooks in me. Thanks Mr. Darthveda.
I was actually quite surprised with your choices. So here are my personal fav’s: 1. Operation Locker 2. Golmud Railway 3. Siege of Shangai 4. Operation Metro 5. Zavod 311 I know that Locker is sometimes one-sided match, but there are in fact many possibilities when getting chocked on Charlie. Metro is also one the maps you will get often stuck and hold from either Bravo(when RU holds Bravo and Alpha) or Alpha (when US holds all points), but (!) if you play on 32 slot server, I am in most cases able to sneak through the offense and cap either Charlie, Bravo or both.
I really am not a fan of Lockers as it is a pretty significant grind. I like my Conquest maps to encourage more strategy/mobility. Being locked into firing lanes doesn't make me very happy.
darthveda I see your point and agree with it and that is the reason I like Locker. I like the grind, I like to step in, push choke points without worrying about getting killed, because I know I can back it up with my accuracy and agressivity. I play more selfishly than you, I guess. As KennyS says “I like the challenge”.
Well in Asia server,locker is the most popular(more than metro) map in fact which there are many called ONLY .But I found western servers dont't usually limit the specfic weapon(especially explovsive),so if the people are flooded here,it tend to make this map unfair and not interesting.
Lancing is clearly the best. Placing all BF4 vehicles into a small little map was and is a great idea and I hope to see that design return in future Battlefields. /s In no particular order, my actual 4 favorite maps for CQL are probably Golmud Railway, Dragon Valley, Siege of Shanghai, and Operation Outbreak. Can't think of a 5th one yet. They're very enjoyable experiences and although some may not be as well balanced, they're still great anyways IMO. Good list.
Great map but the anti air reaches spawn to spawn and 80% of players abuse it. Faggot AA campers can wipe out the entire enemy's team air inside the comfort and protection from there spawn. Same goes for a lot of other battlefield 4 maps. The anti air requires no skill and gets nooby player's kills from across the map. I think it needs a nerf. That's my two cents.
My personal top 5 maps are 1. Pearl Market 2. Dawnbreaker 3. Flood Zone 4. Shanghai Siege 5. Lost Islands They got beautiful aesthetics there. Especially on Pearl and Dawnbreaker, the tumblrsthetics show up well. Pearl Market reminds me of Wong Kar Wai's movies, Dawnbreaker gives me those Warm On A Cold Night feels
My top five favorite base maps (in no order) - Siege of Shanghai, Zavod 311, Dawnbreaker, Paracel Storm, Hainan Resort Also my favorite maps from each DLC - Silk Road (China Rising), Caspian Border (Second Assault), Operation Mortar (Naval Strike), Propaganda (Dragon's Teeth), Giants of Karelia (Final Stand), Operation Outbreak (Community Maps)
My favourite has to be Propaganda.. Besides, Golmud Railway, Siege, Dawnbreaker, Sunken Dragon, Dragon Valley, Community map are the few that come to my mind
Binny Lee garbage visibility, too much foliage, no permanent hard cover, levolution disrupts the balance of the map, no overhead cover guarantees air vehicle domination. I can't think of a single redeemable feature of the map
- Dragon valley - uhm - Hammerhead - Golmud? - Zavod i think? Honorable mention, siege @ night Not because the night, but because you cant get on the goddamn roofs.
+darthveda flood zone is great for TDM and other smaller game modes. In extended games everything in the roofs gets destroyed and there's no cover for the tall tall roof snipers and the scout helicopters.
Thank you for picking the Market. Its for me the best infantery map I had the pleasure to play on. I have nearly 400 hours on this map so its my clear winner too. This map does something not a lot of map of bf4 have: You need to learn the flanking routes and you will kill so many people that have no idea what is going on.
Zavod is my number one map I like concealing myself as a support in the hills next to D and deny enemy reinforcements from c and if need be E. Setup with a 2409 bipod suppressed ,with a claymore watching your back against snipers looking for a spot.
I'd like Siege a lot more if people weren't fucking camping on rooftops 24/7, the few games where most people focused on actually staying on the ground were some of my favorite games in BF4 but overall it just gets frustrating
Good picks. Zavod 311 is probably my fav vanilla map, Wavebreaker is my fav Naval Strike map and Op. Mortar is my second. Unfortunately, I do not own the Dragon's Teeth DLC, so I cannot judge Propaganda nor Pearl Market.
Oh and as a player who plays almost exclusively Rush on PS4, my top 5 would be 5. Pearl Market 4. Siege of Shanghai (it's a shame they don't incorporate both levels of the destruction in rush) 3. Zavod 311 2. Dragon Valley 1. Hammerhead Of course these are nothing compared to Grand Bazaar and Damavand Peak, but hey. It is what it is!
I agreed with most your list. I have to admit I hate the vehicle mechanics in BF4, so heavy vehicle focus maps I didnt care for. Especially since admins insist on instant vehicle respawn, breaking the game further. My top 5: 5-Paracel Storm 4-Flood Zone 3-Propoganda 2-Pearl Market 1-Zavod (Day or night)
I never get tired of this map. Charging with a squad, tank and a sea of blue berries!! Scan the roof tops always.
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I agree with 5 to 3, but 2 and 1 would be like 9th or 10th position for me, I much prefer silk road, caspian border, dragon valley and even wave breaker but it's all personal in the end.
Not necessarily the best, but ones that I have had a lot of memories in the past 8 years. Vanilla: Golmud, Paracel Storm, Siege of Shanghai, Zavod, and Dawnbreaker. Locker, Lancang Dam, and Rogue Transmission were alright but I hated Flood Zone and Hainan Resort. As for DLC: I loved the Second Assault DLC. I played a lot of BF3 back in the day so naturally I fell in love again with the maps. China Rising was disappointing except for Silk Roads. I played a lot of sniper only matches on there. Guilin peaks was fun but I never enjoyed the rotation. Naval Strike have overall very fun maps and was one of the last DLCs i managed to get. I went in thinking I wasn't going to like the naval warfare but Lost Islands has turned into one of my favorite maps. I loved the mix of patrolling in the attack boats, and fighting in the caves, jungles, and secluded little islands for those flags on conquest. Sadly, by the time I got Dragon's Teeth there weren't a whole lot of servers, but I did play Sunken Dragon a few times. Lastly, Final Stand had some of the most gorgeous maps with Hangar 21 and Giants of Karelia. Those were two of my favorites as well as Hammerhead. Wasn't a huge fan of Whiteout though.
Do you prefer Bandar Desert or Dragon Pass(both ridiculously huge)? Bandar Desert holds a special place in me because the day it came out me and my friends played rush on it...good PS3 times, I threw that console away back in 2014
Not sure about the order, but it's Guilin, Propaganda, Pearl Market, Locker, Outbreak for me. I think that Sunken Dragon would be better with Transports instead of Little Birds, but I'll still throw it in as an honorable mention.
I think I only ever have played on propaganda once. It was a spawn rape for my team and that’s before I knew how to control my weapons and that strafing around affects weapon spread
Prop does have the problem that if one team is dogshit awful that they can be trapped pretty quickly. It's one of those cases where servers that have hugely bloated ticket counts just draw this out.
***** Why is that? I do understand on the indestructible towers but other than I see it mostly as an improvement than its previous version. I just use a couple C4 to bring down the wall by B or just go under water by the river to go through and flank the enemy. Of course its not real great for tanks and that makes it even better. Plus, it gives the U.S. attack choppers a defensive tactic against the enemy MAA.
I love Sunken Dragon and Wave Breaker. I feel like they are the 2 most underrated maps in Battlefield history. Pearl Market is the best map in BF4 though. It’s up there with Strike at Karkand as one of the best maps in battlefield history. My Top 10: 1)Pearl Market 2)Sunken Dragon 3)Siege of Shanghai 4)Wave Breaker 5)Zavod 311 6)Operation Outbreak 7)Operation Mortar 8)Golmud Railway 9)Hangar 21 10)Paracel Storm Honorable Mentions: Lost Islands, Propaganda, Silk Road, Lumphini Garden, Guilin Peaks and Caspian Border.
thanks for including hangar 21. it is really underratet in my opinion. it's basicly 2 maps in 1. you have that big "outside" part of the map which is great for sniping and you have the "inside" part in the hangar
Golmud is actually my favorite rush map as well, that was my favorite mode in bfbc2/bf3. This map reminds me of the infantry/destruction of the best maps from those games. Honestly the maps in 4 were mostly bad, especially for rush. Also I love your choice for Propaganda and Pearl Market, those were standout DLC ones as well as Giants of Karelia, Golmud/Zavod are definitely 2 of the best, and Shanghai can be good but I’ve had some really campy boring games though. I like how you acknowledge classic BF3 maps as well as mention how Dragon Pass was just horrible.
GraphiteBlimp i agree with your thoughts on how bad rush maps were designed. 3rd Stage is pure Normady landing, but this time the US cant beat the german defences (i.e. the CN team)
I dont like Paracel Storm, like the Naval Strike maps, you waste a lot of time just moving from one flag to another one, its like you go to a flag and when you are there the flag has been already captured or things like that, and the respawns are really crazy in those maps. Golmud takes the number 1 to me, and i like Rogue Transmission as well.
CQ-Small: Locker, Zavod, Propaganda, Golmud, Dawnbreaker. I only play CQ-Small becaus its by far more tactical and you dont get overflowed by thousands of enemys.
propaganda would be fun if the armor had any sort of survivability on the US side. Ive played in rounds where the CN quint capped the US side and they have lines of sight directly into tank spawn. needless to say, i couldnt leave spawn at all. neither through A to the infy clusterfuck or to the village area where I have to cross no-mans land
I disagree with your rankings in terms of the maps i prefer to play on but you articulate your points well and since you refer to hard data and state your parameters, it is more difficult to argue with you. I didn't play anything past the Dragon's Teeth expansion and I'm excluding any comments on the Naval Strike DLC. I agree with you on Zavod (which is my favorite BF4 map), Propaganda and Golmud but I'd put in Paracel Storm and Hainan to round out my top 5.
Seige of Shanghai is bae, until some noob brings down the skyscraper
Go on no levolution servers
that never works building still gets fucked on those servers.
the only time building should be brought down is if your team does not have control of it.
and that noob is me
+Agerix Official which happens in every match
Grumpy Stormtrooper what i hate is when my own team mates blow up the sky scarper we are in control of. the sky scraper being down doesnt particularly bother me as i never stay on the skyscraper for very long.
i end up going to b and a if the enemy control it, those 2 points are my favorite really. ive had more gun fights in those areas then i have on the tower.
I'm mainly an infantry player so I enjoy the Locker and Metro maps but I'll leave those out of my list here. Top 5 for me:
1) Shanghai
2) Pearl Market
3) Zavod
4) Propaganda
5) Operation Outbreak
What's there to like in shanghai for an infantry player? adding to a gunner's kpm? lol
@@yogetrekt8243 uhh... the tower
Mmmmm, Pearl Market..
A man of culture as well
1. operation firestorm
2. operation firestorm
3. operation firestorm
4. operation firestorm
5. operation firestorm
honorable mentions:
dawnbreaker.
altai range
rogue transmission
and operation firestorm
I really don’t understand dawnbreaker hate. It’s a good infantry and armor map, and the only downsides are helicopters have too much cover and C is a shitshow
@@anonymousaccount7907 yeah I like dawn breaker too. It is not that bad. It is even better on rush though.
All Dragons Teeth maps are #1
China #1?
China rising is the best expansion for me . All the maps are huge and intense
No! Fahk you! Taiwan #1!
except for propaganda, that is WoT
@@notstarboard im agree to disagree
I bought BF4 Premium a few days ago, played Pearl Market for the first time without knowing what this map is all about. Well as an infantry only player, i was totally blown away. Its literally the best i could ask for. Note that i was playing the vanilla version of this game for over a year, and locker was the only conquest map i enjoyed and a few TDM version of other vanilla maps. :)
I loooooove Pearl Market.
That map is great cause it works for all weapon classes, even rooftop sniping.
How much did u pay for premium cuz its 2018 and its 50 buks😵
@@djsmileyoflasvegas 20 bucks on Steam and absolutely worth it
My top 5:
5: Paracel Storm
4: Hangar 21
3: Hammerhead
2: Pearl Market
1: Silk Road
I love silk road sm
I really don't like Paracel storm it's trash imo
I only play Silk Road for the jets😭
@@rodrigocastro9776 i play paracel storm only because that one fkin destroyer
Pearl Market is one of my most disliked maps in BF4. I think the verticality throws me off. If I played more of it I would probably like it. Great video.
Same here, the learning curve is steep (ie you die a lot followed by dying a lot more).
The only mark that pearl market has is to many roof campers but thats it
My top 7 favorites in no particular order (one from base game and one of each from every dlc)
1. Seige of Shaghai; base game
2. Gulf of Oman; Second Assault
3. Silk Road; China Rising
4. Pearl Market; Dragons Teeth
5. Wavebreaker; Naval Strike
6. Hangar 21; Final Stand
7. Dragon Valley; community maps
I love Hangar 21, it has such a cool atmosphere.
Shanghai is so good ;)
*says the chopper pilot"
Agerix Official Haha
Chopper gunner not pilot
Aka i am one of your fans!
My record is 205-0. Just got around in the chopper and destroy everyone without an AA. Best map ever
I would have switched Pearl Market and Zavod, 311, because tank love.
Same
Can I ask for a top 5 worst list? I'd be interested to see what you think. Always great watching your content. Keep it up! :)
1.Flood zone (for me)
+Mr.Berlin I actually liked that map. I always liked using LAVs on the highway (pls don't kill me)
+Captainoob ok i have to say when i Play on this map i always use a stinger
+Mr.Berlin good! Aircraft is pesky as hell on that map aye ;)
+Captainoob
imo-
5. flood zone
4.hainan resort
3.locker
2. Dawnbreaker
1. operation cluster fuck also known as metro
My top 5:
1. Siege of Shanghai
2. Operation Locker
3. Hainan Resort
4. Zavod 311
5. Gourad Railway
Honorables:
Dawnbreaker
Flood Zone
Lancang Dam
Sir, that is also my list
well thats pretty coincedental XD
Golmuld railway is so bad tho
This video was done very well. I agree with every map you have on the list. I would also include Firestorm since I never got a chance to play 64 players in BF3. I think Pearl Market doesn't get the credit it deserves. Its a blast to play on hardcore!
4. Azerbaijan school and field
3. Dam over a SAM
2. Chen's building in Shanghai
1. Kunlung mountain facility - get busy -dying- living
Chang*
golmud is such a good map for rush (past the 1st mcoms)
AN 94 is extremely effective when defending on that map
I remember the game where I got 65 kills and a 3 KD on Golmud Rush, playing with a squad that communicated well. Most fun I've ever had in Battlefield...
Schweich224 And Obliteration too
I only play conquest because of the vehicles
The only issue is not nerfing the commander which can destroy the opponents on Pearl Market
One UAV covers the entire map. It's pretty vexing.
Parcel storm will always have a place in my heart
My top 5:
1. Nasha Strike
2. Lost Islands
3. Paracel Storm/Operation Mortar
4. Golmud Railway
5. Hainan Resort
propaganda is my fav
My personal favorites (not in particular order):
1. Graveyard Shift Zavod (replaces Zavod 311)
2. Hammerhead
3. Pearl Market
4. Caspian Border
5. Operation Locker (Conquest Small)
Honorable mentions:
1. Dawnbreaker
2. Operation Outbreak
3. Dragon Valley
4. Propaganda
5. Giants of Karelia
6. Golmud Railway
7. Golf of Oman
TheLankySoldier - Content Creator I didnt knew there were golf courses in oman
Pearl Market, YAAAAAAAAAAAY ! Thank you.
Just realized that Siege of Shanghai is somehow a Wake Island 2.0 with Bridges and a destructable Skyscraper in the middle.
Maybe that's another reason for the popularity of that map.
No one is going to read this but aight. I play on ps3 so only conquest small and max 24 players. Also there are a lot of framedrops. I also do not own any paid dlc.
1.Operation Locker 😍 I luv hectic, tactical infantry gameplay and this map delivers just that. The cafeteria is my fav point followed by the cells. The only thing I despise about it is the middle point (The Tower). There is no cover around it and the frame drop is ridiculous.
2.Siege of Shanghai 😄 Pretty good infantry gameplay on the skyscraper and on point C (conquest small). Driving tanks and flying choppers is also pretty satisfying.
3.Dawnbreaker 😀 Particularly good on Rush as the attacking side. But conquest is pretty good as well, especially when folks are not camping on the rooftops.
4.Rogue Transmission 😊 Fun time between helipad and radiotelescope. Jets can be useful as well.
5.Zavod 311 ☺ So many good and few things bad. Insanely good infantry action in the main facility between points B and C. D and A are mediocre at best and the rooftop campers can be a pain in the ass. Its also good in Rush
6.Golmud Railway 😑 Too big for 12v12. Often nothing happens for a solid 5 minutes when suddenly you are blown to smithereens by a random tank.
7.Paracel Storm 😒 Laggy as f and also too big although ridin boats is usually fun. Not the choppers tho. Stingers everywhere and nowhere to hide.
8.Flood Zone 😣 Fun in Rush due to lack of vehicles. Otherwise dull as ditchwater and annoying to move from point A and C to anywhere.
9.Hainan Resort 😭 TOO BIG, stupid campers on the hotel and poor infantry combat.
10.Lancang Dam 😠 C'mon, its bad in every mode, even tdm. Annoying LAVs and contant boredom. Ugh, I quit every time its the next map on the list.
Try getting a ps4 or pc my dude anyways great list
@@nakar882 At this point I'm getting a ps5
Simple Shadow is conquest small bigger on current gen than on old gen? From what I’ve gathered it’s 12v12(plus commanders) on ps3 and 16v16(plus commanders) on ps4; is this right?
I'm flattered that you used my data :)
TOP video as always!
5. Silk Road
4. Pearl Market
3. Golmud Railway
2. Zavod 311
1. Paracel Storm
Well, I like vehicles (but the MAA).
+MaChiMiB My pleasure, thanks for putting it together. It was quite illuminating. I was surprised how balanced Paracel actually is.
darthveda how
I know a lot of players dislike siege of shanghai, but the amount of unbelievably close games I had on this map vastly outweigh all other maps. Probably combined. Very often you'll find teams fighting and winning just by the edge of the teeth, with like 20 point difference. A lot of tense game finales. Lots of epic moments. Vehicles, infantry, tactics. It all comes together so well on this map.
I’ll be the 1% to say golmud is my least favorite map... A and B is the only serious action
Rush is a nightmare on this map.
Greatly enjoy your vids, Darth (particularly with the use of stats). You're the only channel that has managed to keep BF4 interesting despite the end of CTE.
+Samba Oz I am offended.
Busted! That really ought to have read 'one of a select few' channels keeping BF4 interesting. Enjoy your work, Marble. :D
Unrelated, but when I'm scrolling through comments and see an Amiga ball, I smile and drop some thumbs ups.
River City fan digs my Amiga! Smiles all round. :)
+Samba Oz Hrvatska?
I am playing this game since 2020... love this game
The only map I truly love is Zavod 311 (I don't usually play on DLC maps). I'd love to say many of vanilla maps are actually good, if there were no roof camping. I wish I could play on shanghai, flood zone, dawn breaker, rogue, etc without roof camping. There are way too many roof camping spots that are painful to access, or only accessible by chopper IMO. Elevators are usually just suicide boxes, there are not enough ladders, stairs. I have no problem with vertical gameplay but roof camping in BF4 is just exhausting, not fun.
I cannot agree with this comment more
Easily Siege after I found servers with no levolution, chopper kill limits, no uncap camping, and most importantly active admins, who enforce the rules. Fantastic gameplay.
Zavod is my second favorite, but unlike Siege, there is no way of breaking out from a spawn trap, which happens time to time. A good tanker, AA and scout pilot together can easily dominate a whole team. Absolute blast on hardcore, IF you have a server with strict sniper limits.
Least favorite: Dawnbreaker. Unbalanced teams lead to rooftop camping and just waiting for the ticket bleed to do it's job. Spawn trapping is easy. Jets on this map - why on earth?
Another thing about Pearl Market that wasn't mentioned, and that ALOT of players don't realize: its BY FAR the most enjoyable map to play as a Commander on. You get Cruise Missiles on that map, but unlike other maps where it can take upwards to 30 seconds for the missile to arrive, the lead time in Pearl Market is super short at around 11 seconds. This means that as soon as you fire it: it arrives very quickly. On top of that: the blast penetrates through everything. If enemies are inside the building you're aiming for: they're probably dead, and with the density of some of these buildings, you can rack up ALOT of kills on it.
I once got MVP on Conquest Small Pearl Market as a Commander, and MVP as a Commander basically never happens... but I did it.
I don't know why I am watching this some 2,5 years later but I still enjoyed and appreciate your view on the subject matter. Guess BF4 still keeps it hooks in me. Thanks Mr. Darthveda.
Top 5 (No Order)
1. Siege of Shanghai (DOM/TDM)
2. Golmud Railway (Rush)
3. Pearl Market (DOM/TDM)
4. Zavod 311 (Rush)
5. Dragon Valley (Rush/TDM)
I was actually quite surprised with your choices. So here are my personal fav’s:
1. Operation Locker
2. Golmud Railway
3. Siege of Shangai
4. Operation Metro
5. Zavod 311
I know that Locker is sometimes one-sided match, but there are in fact many possibilities when getting chocked on Charlie. Metro is also one the maps you will get often stuck and hold from either Bravo(when RU holds Bravo and Alpha) or Alpha (when US holds all points), but (!) if you play on 32 slot server, I am in most cases able to sneak through the offense and cap either Charlie, Bravo or both.
I really am not a fan of Lockers as it is a pretty significant grind. I like my Conquest maps to encourage more strategy/mobility. Being locked into firing lanes doesn't make me very happy.
darthveda I see your point and agree with it and that is the reason I like Locker. I like the grind, I like to step in, push choke points without worrying about getting killed, because I know I can back it up with my accuracy and agressivity. I play more selfishly than you, I guess. As KennyS says “I like the challenge”.
Well in Asia server,locker is the most popular(more than metro) map in fact which there are many called ONLY .But I found western servers dont't usually limit the specfic weapon(especially explovsive),so if the people are flooded here,it tend to make this map unfair and not interesting.
I hope your channel blows up for bf5, you do a really great job man. Also, dat voice doe.
Battlefield 1 now
Thanks for the video! BF4 is still alive and more and more people are playing it. It's still an amazing game! :D
Lost Islands (love the boat infantry interplay)
Rouge Transmission/Zavod 311/Propaganda/Operation Outbreak (Great mix for all styles)
Lancing is clearly the best. Placing all BF4 vehicles into a small little map was and is a great idea and I hope to see that design return in future Battlefields. /s
In no particular order, my actual 4 favorite maps for CQL are probably Golmud Railway, Dragon Valley, Siege of Shanghai, and Operation Outbreak. Can't think of a 5th one yet. They're very enjoyable experiences and although some may not be as well balanced, they're still great anyways IMO. Good list.
Great map but the anti air reaches spawn to spawn and 80% of players abuse it. Faggot AA campers can wipe out the entire enemy's team air inside the comfort and protection from there spawn. Same goes for a lot of other battlefield 4 maps. The anti air requires no skill and gets nooby player's kills from across the map. I think it needs a nerf. That's my two cents.
+mystro30 Gaming He was sarcastic. Lancang Dam is one of the worst maps in bf history.
My personal top 5 maps are
1. Pearl Market
2. Dawnbreaker
3. Flood Zone
4. Shanghai Siege
5. Lost Islands
They got beautiful aesthetics there. Especially on Pearl and Dawnbreaker, the tumblrsthetics show up well. Pearl Market reminds me of Wong Kar Wai's movies, Dawnbreaker gives me those Warm On A Cold Night feels
My top five favorite base maps (in no order) - Siege of Shanghai, Zavod 311, Dawnbreaker, Paracel Storm, Hainan Resort
Also my favorite maps from each DLC - Silk Road (China Rising), Caspian Border (Second Assault), Operation Mortar (Naval Strike), Propaganda (Dragon's Teeth), Giants of Karelia (Final Stand), Operation Outbreak (Community Maps)
i agree 90% with you. for me, just change golmud for outbreak and i'm good. and of course night zavod is a 10/10 for me!
great video dude!
My favourite has to be Propaganda..
Besides, Golmud Railway, Siege, Dawnbreaker, Sunken Dragon, Dragon Valley, Community map are the few that come to my mind
Oh, and Silk Road and Wave Breaker too
+manav bhalla And maybe Pearl Market too
Besides every map lol
i hate people who say that the best bf4 map is caspian frontier, they don't realize that map is bf3 and only remastered
I know it's an old video....but my top 5:
1: propaganda
2: flood zone
3: Hammerhead
4: zavod
5: wave breaker
My top5 5-op locker 4-shanghai 3-op outbreak 2-dragon valley 1-propaganda
2:09 lol look at the chat
Golmud is now a must for my grind to getting Black Shark.
OMG ... WUUUTTTT ???!!! NO Paracel Strom
Because it's awful
Binny Lee garbage visibility, too much foliage, no permanent hard cover, levolution disrupts the balance of the map, no overhead cover guarantees air vehicle domination. I can't think of a single redeemable feature of the map
just vehicles and no infantry... yeah, nice map
play it on rush
normady revisited, but the germans has a 60% chance of winning the second phase, if server allows bipods on LMG
- Dragon valley
- uhm
- Hammerhead
- Golmud?
- Zavod i think?
Honorable mention, siege @ night
Not because the night, but because you cant get on the goddamn roofs.
+DANNYonPC there is a shockingly high number of mediocre maps in battlefield 4
+darthveda
Vanilla (most played) maps that make me quit
Floodzone
Dam
paracel (im no boat man)
lolololocker
Rogue... well depends i guess
+DANNYonPC Poor floodzone never gets love! Reminds me of Tehran Highway and how much I liked that map that nobody else did.
+darthveda Flood Zone is ffuunnnn :o floodzone is lovee
+darthveda flood zone is great for TDM and other smaller game modes. In extended games everything in the roofs gets destroyed and there's no cover for the tall tall roof snipers and the scout helicopters.
My top 5:
5. Paracel Storm
4. Op. Locker
3. Flood Zone (perfect for rush)
2. Golmud Railway
1. Siege of Shanghai
you forgot Rogue Transmission, you can snipe from pretty much anywhere on that map.
My list
1- Operation Firestorm
2-Caspin Border
3- Zavod 311
4- Outbreak
5- Gulf of Oman
Thank you for picking the Market. Its for me the best infantery map I had the pleasure to play on. I have nearly 400 hours on this map so its my clear winner too. This map does something not a lot of map of bf4 have: You need to learn the flanking routes and you will kill so many people that have no idea what is going on.
Zavod is my number one map I like concealing myself as a support in the hills next to D and deny enemy reinforcements from c and if need be E.
Setup with a 2409 bipod suppressed ,with a claymore watching your back against snipers looking for a spot.
Best for me: Paracel Storm, Wave Breaker, Propaganda, Siege of Shanghai, Guilin Peaks, Golmud Railway, Zavod 311.
Worst for me: Silk Road, Altai Range, Hangar 21, Operation Metro, Lancang Dam, Dragon Pass, Hainan Resort.
"Want to be a sniping coward?". ...haha.now that's fuckin funny.
"Want to be a sniping coward?" Truest words ever spoken. Finally somebody makes a stream that isn't a sniper main.
I really dislike Pearl Market, it's a total maze and you can get shot at from a million different angles and heights, its every camper's wet dream
Try some of the tips I've got: ua-cam.com/video/bTwpBG5LOEg/v-deo.html
I never camp on that map. It's a good way to lose the map.
Couldn't agree more with the list!
I'd like Siege a lot more if people weren't fucking camping on rooftops 24/7, the few games where most people focused on actually staying on the ground were some of my favorite games in BF4 but overall it just gets frustrating
Good picks. Zavod 311 is probably my fav vanilla map, Wavebreaker is my fav Naval Strike map and Op. Mortar is my second. Unfortunately, I do not own the Dragon's Teeth DLC, so I cannot judge Propaganda nor Pearl Market.
Radovan Ostrodický all dlc is free
1. Hainan
2. Rouge
3. Zavod
4. Sunken
5. Shanghai
Cuz LAVS are life
Honestly lav players are better than tankers much better positioning
5_ Wave Breaker
4_Rogue Transmission
3_Propaganda
2_Golmud Railway
1_Operation Whiteout
0_Dawnbreaker
-1_Siege of Shanghai
1. Zavod
2. Golmud
3. Flood Zone
4. Pearl Market
5. Paracel Storm
honor to
Propaganda
Locker
Zavod is an amazing map still but the biggest complain I have for it is the vidibility. It’s highly contrasted map.
Yes, you are right
Oh and as a player who plays almost exclusively Rush on PS4, my top 5 would be
5. Pearl Market
4. Siege of Shanghai (it's a shame they don't incorporate both levels of the destruction in rush)
3. Zavod 311
2. Dragon Valley
1. Hammerhead
Of course these are nothing compared to Grand Bazaar and Damavand Peak, but hey. It is what it is!
My top 5
5: Propaganda
4: Pearl Market
3: Golmud Railway
2: Siege of Shanghai
1: Operation Locker
Golmud Railway is my number 1, and i really like Rogue Transmission as well.
I agreed with most your list. I have to admit I hate the vehicle mechanics in BF4, so heavy vehicle focus maps I didnt care for. Especially since admins insist on instant vehicle respawn, breaking the game further.
My top 5:
5-Paracel Storm
4-Flood Zone
3-Propoganda
2-Pearl Market
1-Zavod (Day or night)
This is an exceptionally well made and thought out video. Cheers
Want to be a sniping coward? That just made my day Darth lol
I never get tired of this map. Charging with a squad, tank and a sea of blue berries!! Scan the roof tops always.
I agree with 5 to 3, but 2 and 1 would be like 9th or 10th position for me, I much prefer silk road, caspian border, dragon valley and even wave breaker but it's all personal in the end.
Not necessarily the best, but ones that I have had a lot of memories in the past 8 years.
Vanilla: Golmud, Paracel Storm, Siege of Shanghai, Zavod, and Dawnbreaker. Locker, Lancang Dam, and Rogue Transmission were alright but I hated Flood Zone and Hainan Resort.
As for DLC: I loved the Second Assault DLC. I played a lot of BF3 back in the day so naturally I fell in love again with the maps. China Rising was disappointing except for Silk Roads. I played a lot of sniper only matches on there. Guilin peaks was fun but I never enjoyed the rotation. Naval Strike have overall very fun maps and was one of the last DLCs i managed to get. I went in thinking I wasn't going to like the naval warfare but Lost Islands has turned into one of my favorite maps. I loved the mix of patrolling in the attack boats, and fighting in the caves, jungles, and secluded little islands for those flags on conquest. Sadly, by the time I got Dragon's Teeth there weren't a whole lot of servers, but I did play Sunken Dragon a few times. Lastly, Final Stand had some of the most gorgeous maps with Hangar 21 and Giants of Karelia. Those were two of my favorites as well as Hammerhead. Wasn't a huge fan of Whiteout though.
Rogue Transmission !
I miss Bandar Desert :(
Great video Darth!
That was the one tolerable map from Armored Kill. At least the beach area had that tight cluster of points for infantry.
Do you prefer Bandar Desert or Dragon Pass(both ridiculously huge)? Bandar Desert holds a special place in me because the day it came out me and my friends played rush on it...good PS3 times, I threw that console away back in 2014
Dragon Pass was pretty imbalanced and generally unfun to get around in. One big choke in the map. It's the metro of vehicles. I much prefer Bandar.
My favorites are Operation Mortar and Dragon Pass because I like big maps with vehicles and they look really nice
I'm growing to appreciate Mortar more lately.
@@darthveda dang i didnt think youd reply to this on an old video
Operation Mortar, Pearl Market, Operation Metro, and Dawnbreaker are my favorites
Ayyy pearl market = grand bazaar + scrap metal + parkour + flood zone - difficult to reach, isolated roofs
Not sure about the order, but it's Guilin, Propaganda, Pearl Market, Locker, Outbreak for me. I think that Sunken Dragon would be better with Transports instead of Little Birds, but I'll still throw it in as an honorable mention.
I just like paracel storm and the skyscraper one
I dont know why but I just love Rogue Transmission
CptBurn1 SAME
Great map for snipers
Same. Maybe it's the aesthetic.
glad i found your channel...i think i remember playing with you on pc...haven't played on pc in a while though...but nice channel
5. Paracel Storm 4. Giant of Karelia 3. Operation Whiteout 2. Hammerhead 1. Hangar 21
Great video! Liked and subbed!
I think I only ever have played on propaganda once. It was a spawn rape for my team and that’s before I knew how to control my weapons and that strafing around affects weapon spread
Prop does have the problem that if one team is dogshit awful that they can be trapped pretty quickly. It's one of those cases where servers that have hugely bloated ticket counts just draw this out.
darthveda yeah true, it’s unfortunate I’ve never found a dragons teeth dlc server or a server with those maps ever since...I’m on PS4
My personal top 5 (All Large Conquest):
1) Caspian 2014 (DLC)
2) Siege of Shanghai
3) Propaganda (DLC)
4) Nansha Strike (DLC)
5) Hammerhead - B-C bases (DLC)
+Graphic .J I feel they wrecked Caspian with the wall. I just don't know what they were thinking with that.
*****
Why is that? I do understand on the indestructible towers but other than I see it mostly as an improvement than its previous version. I just use a couple C4 to bring down the wall by B or just go under water by the river to go through and flank the enemy. Of course its not real great for tanks and that makes it even better. Plus, it gives the U.S. attack choppers a defensive tactic against the enemy MAA.
I love Sunken Dragon and Wave Breaker. I feel like they are the 2 most underrated maps in Battlefield history. Pearl Market is the best map in BF4 though. It’s up there with Strike at Karkand as one of the best maps in battlefield history.
My Top 10:
1)Pearl Market
2)Sunken Dragon
3)Siege of Shanghai
4)Wave Breaker
5)Zavod 311
6)Operation Outbreak
7)Operation Mortar
8)Golmud Railway
9)Hangar 21
10)Paracel Storm
Honorable Mentions: Lost Islands, Propaganda, Silk Road, Lumphini Garden, Guilin Peaks and Caspian Border.
thanks for including hangar 21. it is really underratet in my opinion. it's basicly 2 maps in 1. you have that big "outside" part of the map which is great for sniping and you have the "inside" part in the hangar
Nice Vid good use of real stats, ahha !! the old canister shell, only time i snipe : )
Golmud is actually my favorite rush map as well, that was my favorite mode in bfbc2/bf3. This map reminds me of the infantry/destruction of the best maps from those games. Honestly the maps in 4 were mostly bad, especially for rush.
Also I love your choice for Propaganda and Pearl Market, those were standout DLC ones as well as Giants of Karelia, Golmud/Zavod are definitely 2 of the best, and Shanghai can be good but I’ve had some really campy boring games though. I like how you acknowledge classic BF3 maps as well as mention how Dragon Pass was just horrible.
GraphiteBlimp i agree with your thoughts on how bad rush maps were designed. 3rd Stage is pure Normady landing, but this time the US cant beat the german defences (i.e. the CN team)
My top 5
5. Golmud Railway
4. Zavod
3. Hangar 21
2. Propaganda (Awesome for obliteration - the unsung hero mode of BF4)
1. Paracel Storm
I fucking hate paracel storm
+Angry Pepe me too actually...
I dont like Paracel Storm, like the Naval Strike maps, you waste a lot of time just moving from one flag to another one, its like you go to a flag and when you are there the flag has been already captured or things like that, and the respawns are really crazy in those maps. Golmud takes the number 1 to me, and i like Rogue Transmission as well.
Paracel storm gets really boring, and its hard to move around the map. Where you spawn is where you die.
ATAG_Flare I fucking hate golumud railway
I’m surprised Paracel Storm isn’t here. The US & China win percentages are extremely close to even.
CQ-Small: Locker, Zavod, Propaganda, Golmud, Dawnbreaker. I only play CQ-Small becaus its by far more tactical and you dont get overflowed by thousands of enemys.
Golmud is Large wtf, it isn't Close Quarters unless you're in A B and C.
propaganda would be fun if the armor had any sort of survivability on the US side. Ive played in rounds where the CN quint capped the US side and they have lines of sight directly into tank spawn. needless to say, i couldnt leave spawn at all. neither through A to the infy clusterfuck or to the village area where I have to cross no-mans land
My top 5:
•Siege Of Shanghai
•Operation Lockers
•Operation Outbreak
•Propaganda
I'm not putting in 5 because there's just too many that I love..
I love pearl market it's definitely my favorite as well
I disagree with your rankings in terms of the maps i prefer to play on but you articulate your points well and since you refer to hard data and state your parameters, it is more difficult to argue with you. I didn't play anything past the Dragon's Teeth expansion and I'm excluding any comments on the Naval Strike DLC. I agree with you on Zavod (which is my favorite BF4 map), Propaganda and Golmud but I'd put in Paracel Storm and Hainan to round out my top 5.
My top 5 for CQL would have to be:
5. Golmud
4. Guilin Peaks
3. Shanghai
2. Hainan Resort
1. Zavod
Honorable Mention for Dawnbreaker
dude you used to have like 800 subs O.o, woah time flies
Zavod 311 was one of my favorites. I forgot about a lot of these maps n it’s cool to look back at em. Btw I’m watching this in 2018