AIRTAG VS BIKE THIEF - Real World Testing And Unboxing
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2021
- Today we test out the new apple AirTag and were shocked by it's success against bike thievery...
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Would imagine it works best in densely populated areas where iPhones are popular.
Yes, thats why it will suck in India where no one really have iPhones. Wanted to get one for my dog but naah.
@@GiggleNuggetsZone I just watched a video on why it is not a good idea to put an Airtag on pets. (Especially small ones like cats)
iPhones are popular everywhere 🤣
@@GiggleNuggetsZone samsung has a similar product. that might be better in a country like india
@@andrewkim2013 samsung is crap. I am already very down into the rabbit hole of apple garden.
Did the ‘thief’ have an iPhone - be interesting to know how quickly the alert for the ‘unknown tag following you’ happens….
It will only notify you once you are at your home or work and at the start of the video they turned on lost item so it wouldn’t notify until they are somewhere specific
He did not, but our hope is that even if someone did get notified it would spook them enough to throw the bike in a hedge rather than take the tracker off, but we’ll just have to see how popular these become as to how they’re treated…
@@Bikespeeds other half went on club run today (9:00-14:00) with my tag and her IPhone. Location updated quite a few times, no notification on her phone until she returned home and went out again about 30 mins later without the tag! I’ve now hidden one in the frames of our bikes.
Any thief will just mark his current location as home after 5 minutes and get the notification that your airtag is covertly tracking them with your stolen property, then he can cause it to ‘sound off’, then toss it. It’s worthless as a theft deterrent.
@@sciencescripture I suspect you’re over estimating the intelligence of your average bike thief.
omg this is the video ive been searching for!!! thanks!!
Thank you! Don’t forget to subscribe
@@Bikespeeds defo subscribed
These air tags are brilliant. Very impressed.
yeah for real
Not brillant for theft, since they'll send a notification after a while to the thief if they have an iPhone.
@@adviceforidevice4536 mostly likely they will have a cheap android, iphones now adays are too damn expensive.
@@sfv6 *most likely**
For the price, it's a steal.
Dang, no thief beat down!
I was expecting that as well haha
This would be perfect in an urban setting like Toronto! Thanks for testing.
That’s the perfect setting, you wouldn’t stop getting updates in a place like that
@@Bikespeeds yes and police still wouldn't help 😭
Subscribed. Simple and to the point, perfect!
Apple has hit a winner with these, I love them and now have six set up. A mate of mine's motorbike got nicked the other day and this would've been a godsend for him if only he had one. Oh well, at least I have learnt from his misfortune.
Good vid mate.
If you've something with it's own battery i would rather get a tracking module based on GPS or Wifi LBS. You can get such modules for ~10 bucks, they're smaller, have even a microphone and are much easier to track because they don't rely on iphones being nearby so you get much more frequent updates of the position. Also remember that the Airtags will a) start beeping after some time and b) most will know what it is and just throt it away. If you really want a thief protection build it in so nobody can see it. AirTags are made to find your own stuff, but for thief protection they've too many downsides in my opinion.
@@Leif_YTi have been searching for something like that for years. The problem is gps trackers are immensely expensive, very big and usually have very poor battery life. Near field trackers are smaller, cheaper and longer lasting but don't help with theft. The airtag is a good idea because it makes use of the wide network of IPhone users to effectively use a near field tracker as an long range tracker. If you know any device that i could use similarly as theft protection I'd like to get a recommendation.
@@jimihenrik11 I've recently used the ZX620, but there seems to be a never version. Currently there are modules like the ZX303
& ZX623 (and a more expensive 813 or so), or with enclosure the GF21 and GF22. If you're into electronics and prefer to do you own software instead of a 3rd party market one you could also use something like a Sim808 and an arduino or esp. Usually the pure electronics for GPS trackers are very cheap these days - just make sure to look in Asian Stores like AliExpress or in hobby stores for quadcopter/drones and such stuff. They usually use similar modules to track their drones & planes or to find them when they get lost.
The battery life is a problem with such systems, but if you protect an e-bike or some devices that have big batteries inside it's not such a concern. If it has to run on a small battery i would use an accelerometer to activate it only when it gets stolen - so it doesn't run 24/7.
But yes, it depends a lot on what you want to track. If someone still wants to use an AirTag for anti theft tracking i would at least try to destroy/remove the sound mechanism so it won't start beeping after some time.
@@jimihenrik11 I've recently used the ZX620, but there seems to be a never version. Currently there are modules like the ZX303
& ZX623 (and a more expensive 813 or so), or with enclosure the GF21 and GF22. If you're into electronics and prefer to do you own software instead of a 3rd party market one you could also use something like a Sim808 and an arduino or esp. Usually the pure electronics for GPS trackers are very cheap these days - just make sure to look in Asian Stores like AliExpress or in hobby stores for quadcopter/drones and such stuff. They usually use similar modules to track their drones & planes or to find them when they get lost. The battery life is a problem with such systems, but if you protect an e-bike or some devices that have big batteries inside it's not such a concern. If it has to run on a small battery i would use an accelerometer to activate it only when it gets stolen - so it doesn't run 24/7. But yes, it depends a lot on what you want to track. If someone still wants to use an AirTag for anti theft tracking i would at least try to destroy/remove the sound mechanism so it won't start beeping after some time.
Depending on the country mobile operators might also have solutions. Here you can get a small gps / gsm tracker for like 2-3 bucks a month with the e-sim included and 7 days battery life. Often they advertise them as GPS Pet Tracker or so.
@@Leif_YT thank you. I will look into that. 7 days surely isn't enough for theft protection. But i have a hub dynamo on my bike. Maby i could build something to keep it charged.
I lost my 2k ncm bike last night in Toronto, never again, purchasing this right now
Sucks man, I'm sorry. I'm here watching bike thieves getting beaten cause someone ran off with my front wheel, which was cable locked to a U-lock, while I was at the gym
Bike thieves and bankers are the worst people in the world
@@zacharykam5161 you forgot lawyers 🤣
I've lost over several bikes the past year, totaling to a few grand. If these were made sooner maybe I would have still had one or 2 of them.
*Air Tags SUCK!*
I told my wife I was going duck hunting, so she put her tag in my gun case.
Caught me with my pants down at my girlfriend apartment.
Now my wife is gone, my girlfriend dumped me and I can't find ammo to hunt.
As soon and Apple announced this I thought this would be great for my ebike and battery. You could even go Samsung tracker and Apple tracker and get wider coverage.
Really good video showing both screens very helpful thank you so much 😁🙏💛
need these thatll work on android phones..any similar products for android users ? or windows users to use a laptop to trace a stolen bike thx for any help
I wish they had these a couple of years earlier. I've had several bikes stolen with no real solution to tracking. So I'm liking the reviews and functionality that I might get one of these. This is great for making sure where you're children are.
Based on Apple's website, it cannot help if you bike has stolen and the robber has an iPhone as well:
"AirTag is designed to discourage unwanted tracking. If someone else’s AirTag finds its way into your stuff, your iPhone will notice it’s traveling with you and send you an alert. After a while, if you still haven’t found it, the AirTag will start playing a sound to let you know it’s there."
Does the bluetooth of the thief iPhone have to be on for it to notify the thief?
so, it can be utterly useless... and even alert the thief - who will search the bike (2 minutes ?) and know they're tracked. krap
I'd put a decoy air tag under the saddle, and put a functional airtag imbedded deeper somewhere like in the bicycle rod or something. If the thief flicks away the decoy the airtag, I'd still be able to track him.
For a higher end bike it’s definitely worth £60 to keep it safe
Thats actually a great idea!
or.. you could just embed it in the frame somewhere from the start?
Useless as the embedding takes away from the tags signal power.
It's using a low power signal in order to remain usefull for a long period of time. By placing it inside of a frame you would seriously limit it's power thus reducing the pickup by any iPhones in the area.
@@Roomer645 yeah probably, I didnt strongly factor in the signal. Okay how about sticking it at the end of the bike handle, and painting it color of the handle.
thanks for this video! very interested makes me want to get an air tag
Would you be able to do a test with the Galaxy Tag as well for a comparison? This video was extremely helpful!
I have been waiting for someone to do this video and finally someone has. I just subscribed and am defiantly going to buy an airtag for my marlin 6. Thank you for this informative and helpful video!!!
Thanks for the sub!
What if thief found tag and removes battery?
I wonder if the ‘hits’ or refresh rate would increase by adding multiple air tags? I’m thinking of adding one under my seat, and then another in a spot that no one would check. If one airtag is found, thief would possibly think there is no more tracking happening to the bike possibly?
We were also thinking of hiding one, but in terms of the everyday rider, taking their bike to be dismantled to have the battery swapped every year could be a pain but on a higher end bike it’d definitely be worth hiding one
@@Bikespeeds Assuming you put it in the frame and it does't block/hinder signals. Thats what I'm waiting for, (more) real life tests.
They ping off of other bluetooth capable devices with the appropriate bandwidth, so in more urban areas it'll have a higher refresh rate and higher accuracy! If you're in the countryside, well, best of luck! This video is essentially my source: ua-cam.com/video/fkgAOPJMsfE/v-deo.html
@@Bikespeeds I have mine taped to the inside of my chain ring. It’s literally invisible, and I haven’t had to change the battery after one year.
With an accelerometer on the airtag, will the airtag notify the owners Iphone if an item is moving? Or can the iPhone have a notification if something is suddenly away from you.
thanks for the informative video
Great Video! Thank you!
How far can it track
Did your hijacker get any alerts on this phone about the airtag? I think that's the one part of the system that will make it difficult. If the thief knows there is a tag, they'll find the tag, throw it in the trash and move on.
Smart tag has manual refresh for location pinpoint so i think it will be easy with smarttag
I took the speaker out of the tracker, and placed one on my car, so even if there is a notification to the thief he wont find it with the speaker
If he own a iPhone he can disable it within 3days
@@youknosav3122 three days is loads of time in these situations
Unless the thief has an iPhone that can alert him of the tag following him so he can disable it! Then he does not have to find it.
Just install two tags if the item is very expensive. Most thieves would be done after finding one tracker.
It has precision finding. People are probably smart enough where to find them.
Got my bike stolen a month ago. Was happy to have one of these sooner!
Nice video!! I played it smart, i've put an airtag in my electric scooter tube hahaha, they need to screw it open first to get the tracker lol
Like it!
Or they can scan with their i phone ?
To see if it has a tag. Is that how it could work. ?
Will this signal 'permeate' a steel bike frame?
Wonderful!!
Very good testing, I was looking for something like this, I’m trying to put an airtag on a motorcycle
They work! Worth the small price really
I put one in my car in my trunk under the carpet where the spare goes so far so good for me it tracks well
Bare in mind, the air tag only gets pinged by people on the latest update and that’s only just been released, these are going to work better and better
I did the same thing with my airtag and Velcro tape. Great video
Good test! If it goes right, a stolen bike can be found. No ads, excellent! Thumbs up for this video!
Thanks! We appreciate the like 👍🏼
Just need to find a good place to put the tag where they can't be seen or removed easily
End of seatpost (inside the bike )
@@nibbs15 seatpost most common diameter is 27.2mm external diameter, whereas the airtag diameter is ~32mm, so it's not going to fit there.
NOT inside the seat post. It's too easy for a thief to find it there. Perhaps in the forks or inside the down tube at bottom or inside the pedal housing. Anything they could easily take off and replace like the seat or handle bars so they could hide the bike theft will be a bad place to put it.
Under the seat is an all-too-obvious hiding place. The place can't be inside something metallic since that would block the RF signal. Companies should make ordinary bike attachments like that for a water bottle but with a hidden place for storing these AirTags. It would also be a good place to store keys or a little spare money.
This is an clever solution. It uses the standard mounting holes for a bottle cage, hiding as well as offering protection from the weather. The bottle cage can be mounted on top if it. No connection to the seller. www.amazon.com/Bracket-Attachment-Included-Standard-Accessory/dp/B0954RVTBL
Hi. I've been wondering if the orientation of the Airtag will be better for detection? If I had a choice to mount the Airtag at 0 Degrees or 90 Degrees on a bicycle, for example, is there an improved possibility of detection?
Imagine Bluetooth as dropping a stone in the middle of a pond, the waves go out in a ripple evenly around it, doesn’t matter what way you drop the stone, it isn’t directional, thanks for watching!
@@Bikespeeds untrue, the metal part blocks the bluetooth signal. The antenna is under the white plastic.
How much distance does it covers
Amazing video. Thank you
Thanks mark!
Yeah I got one of those on my bike. A nice one to have especially if you have high value bike.
I used the same Velcro to attach to a drone.
Fantastic use case
Is there still any point in getting Lojack?
It’s will work in jungle above 200km?
How do you make sure it doesn’t chirp when the bike is stolen
No nonsense thank you!
Will the Airtag work with Android? If so what app would it work with? Or is there a better option for Android users? Thanks 🙏👍
Well made!
Did Apple let you buy your unit WITHOUT providing your AppleID?
They refused to sell to anyone here, unless we purchased on our AppleID account.
Tracking starts the moment you attempt to buy the unit(s)
Nice one!
I'm not sure if they updated the firmware or the Find My app as of 3/31/2022 but the Airtag immediately lets the nearest iPhone user know they are being tracked. I put a speakerless Airtag on my wife's bicycle as a theft deterrent but when she went out for a ride she got 5 notifications in an hour. Kind of useless at this point.
Exactly this. All those jealous stalker ex boyfriend types ruined these tags for tracking bikes if the thief has an apple product on their person (most likely).
Did you mark the item as missing? I wonder if that would make the location update more frequently
We did! Still plenty of testing to be done in a future video there
It only updates in range of other iphones
How did you attach the tag to the seat?
Velcro :)
Glad to see there was a congenial ending
Got in my car. I've removed the speaker before ;) hopefully I don't have to use it properly 👍
Brilliant
Good one
Now i have a reason to buy airtag 😍 thank you for sharing this
The best thing about friendly bike thieves is that they don’t check the bike for trackers when they steal it. It’s those unfriendly ones I’m more concerned about.
Ofcourse they do that or they will from now on.
They will catch up with these tracker trends and adapt accordingly.
Seen the same with trackers on vehicles that were disabled or jammed by thiefs for several years now.
@@Roomer645 What? The friendly bike thieves will adapt? Hahaha. I think you have misread my post or misunderstood it. We are in agreement. My post implies the same thing as yours does.
Just put a dummy Tile tag somewhere on the bike, they’ll take that off and assume that’s all
@@sidbrun_ I check too thoroughly for that to work when I steal a bike.
Getting used to see the driving opposite from the rest of the world 😂😂😂 On the right side.
did the friendly thief get a message on his phone saying he is being tracked by an airtag?
Apparently it only does this once the person returns to their home. And also they have to have an iPhone of course
That’s a real nice baclava
This is going to end well
How long battery last. Pls. By the way great video
1 year as far as we’re aware but only time will tell
What if thieves start looking for air tags now to throw them out or remove them from stolen items?
Can tou try samsung smarttag
Does it alert you if the bike moved I initially?
I believe you can set it up to do so, we put it in “lost mode” which notified us whenever it moved
Nice video
Whoah 😮
Saddle made sense. I spoke to Apple about this idea but they said it wouldn’t work when the tag went out of range from my iPhone
how bout instaling it into the bike seat post?
It won't fit on a regular seat post. May fit on an aero seatpost though.
Good video! I did the same experiment for my car on my channel!
I kinda want to buy an airtag idk where to buy in the philippines :(
I wish it updated every 2 minutes
I keep thinking he was saying psychopath. I was doing laundry and not watching the video. 😂
Be afraid, be very afraid, We’ve got an airtag. We’ll find you Lol
Hi. Is there any chance that Android Do the same ?
Android do not, there is a company called tile that do similar trackers though!
Samsung Smart Tag, google it..
I have a big Fat Tire e-bike....lots of places in and on the frame to hide an Air Tag. It won't prevent theft but what else will give you better odds at recovering your property? ...... for 25 bucks ?
Exactly, that’s our thoughts completely!
So was this airtag updating its location based off coming within a distance of someone's iPhone? If the thief didn't have one, how else could it update?
Any car or person you go past that has an iPhone will update it, we live in a small town and it worked, and our “thief” had no iPhone on him so we’re honestly pretty impressed
As more people update their iphone, I assume the more frequent the ping.
love the way you say cyclepath with your accent.
Where are you watching from, sounds normal to us lol
@@Bikespeeds finland :D
Why does it take this long to get the location updates? This runs on FindMy network so lost airtags can communicate with all Apple devices nearby which is why I thought it would deliver near real-time updates as there'll be a bunch of Apple devices mostly at all times.
It relies on making a blue tooth connection & in turn the phone it’s connected to being online. That’s why we did this to see if a speeding bike could be connected in the few moments it was near another device. We had to second guess where he was going with local knowledge but that we did & this was a genuine find & to come out in front of him for the stop was as perfect as it could have gone!
@@Bikespeeds I suspect its more down to conserving the airtags battery life that it probably only pings out every now and then to see if there are iOS devices nearby on bluetooth. It runs off a rather small coin cell which is rated to last a year. It simply wouldnt have enough power to be trackable in realtime for an entire year.
Was the airtag making sound while you were tracking it? If so, could the 'thief' hear it?
No sound, good design really
@@Bikespeeds your can hear them.
For all of you saying that the thief would get a notification they would, but putting an AirTag under the headset or inside the handlebars tapped Or something. Is something I highly recommend, as it would be very hard go reach and remove and I thrift would probably be notified but would not go thought the trouble of trying to remove it
At 00:00 I can see that your LED lamps flicker badly. It may cause eyestrain or headache.
Any ideas on how your hide the tag on the bike?!
Depends on your type of frame as to how much space you have, we’d say put it in the hardest to get to place that your bike allows, anything that needs a tool to remove, won’t be removable, no thief brings a ratchet set!
I’ve hidden one in the top tube just behind the headset (forks out) and another on other bike in the forks under the rim brake bolt. When I get half hour, I’ll move this to inside top tube also.
In my video I set mine up on my bike! It works great !!
Glad to hear it! We’re a fan ourselves
Remember that they are only picked up by devices running iOS 14.5 which is a VERY SMALL percentage of all devices running iOS. It’ll take another few weeks or months until these AirTags are “brilliant”. I think they’re so cool still!
“And” we live in a relatively small town and this was done at 3pm on a cold Saturday afternoon there wasn’t many people about abs we still tracked him down. I was genuinely amazed we did it!
@@Bikespeeds Yes, it’s very amazing! This is just more proof that Apple puts in as much effort into a $29 product as a $2000 MacBook…
@@itriied5027 I said to my Son I didn't expect it to work & he said "Its Apple, they wouldn't launch it unless it worked" he was right
Jeebus. Your roads looking they were designed by someone dropping a pile of spaghetti on a map
Try concealing it then inside the same where possible.
How about Tile?
As far as we’re aware the infrastructure for air tags is much larger than tile, though both work, air tags might just work better!
"friendly thief" 😛
Question… if the person who stole the bike uses an iPhone 11 or later, wouldn’t he be informed that an air tag has been placed on him or smth?
I think they get a notification when they arrive home, but other videos say that it can take a few hours for this notification to come through. I have seen a few AirTag Bottle Holders on eBay that would be pretty hard for a thief to find.
did you put it in a lost mode? i would say that helps when you looking for it, maybe shows more often where it is... and you should have gave an iPhone to the "thiev" to see if it notify him that airtag is following... or to try to get your details by tapping iPhone on airtag... to see if you find something with airtag, how easy is to get the details of person who lost it, anyway cool video do more:)
It was in lost mode, we got this video out pretty quickly, we filmed this only a few hours after we got the airtag and will definitely be doing more, we’ve already learned a lot since filming it on how it works, so we’ll definitely do some more content on it, thanks for the comment!
What if the bike is inside of a van?
Id imagine the thief was an android user hahah totally unaware he had an airtag under the seat hahahha
Why so much packaging for that wee little thing?
Apple Air Tags are v.cool. Tags you're IT! mobeleash
Shame they don't quite just fit inside a handlebar - maybe apple could make alternative shapes
Mr. Barrett looks a lot like Tim Cook…. 😀
My understanding is if the thief has an Iphone the thief will be warned by their Iphone that there is an Airtag that does not belong to them in their vicinity...rendering the Airtag useless once the thief removes and discards it.
I had a idea of putting the airtag in the inside of the bikes frame.
As long as the frame is CF, it'd probably work.
I’m working on a video on my channel now about it , it works perfectly so far.
I’ve done that, works fine. (Carbon frame)
@Frank Silvers there is a way to wire it directly into the cars power
Great video
I think a lot of people here are over estimating the majority of bike thieves
The large majority of who are junkies (not rocking iPhone) or street rats (generally stupid and cant tell there bum hole from there elbow) place one of these in the tube where your forks and handlebar goes and a large majority won't have a clue. Even if it beebs or tells the thieves iPhone they will ignore it or dump the bike. People panic when they think they will get caught, hence car alarms and house alarms being loud it is a deterrent that has been successful for a long time and for the price completely worth it if you are on an iPhone. No it isn't the end of bike theft no one said it was but it helps