How does a spy balloon work and how is it different from a satellite? | DW News
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- China has condemned the U.S. military’s decision to shoot down a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that flew over the U.S. The United States shot down the balloon on Saturday - creating a diplomatic and political storm. The Pentagon says it was a platform for espionage. China warns there may be repercussions, and the balloon was nothing more than a civilian weather balloon blown off-course.
But how likely is it that the balloon the US shot down is a civilian weather balloon? And why would China favor the use of a balloon over that of a satellite. DW spoke to two experts to find out.
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It’s so thoughtful of China to be concerned about the weather conditions in the US 😊
Does weather even occur that high up?
yes it is so nice of them indeed, especially above sensitive military installations!
they rly shouldnt have,god bless chayna!
Just making sure the Silos don't get flooded this spring. So thoughtful.
If they can maneuver the balloon to certain degree, they can deliver a wide range of payloads to US with some level of accuracy.
They are big fan of Yellowstone, and planning a vacation to the area, so they are checking the weather conditions 😅
Why would there be 'reprecusions' for shooting down a stray weather baloon. At that point it's just debris as it obviously isn't monitoring the intended area.
Weather Ballons dont carry solar panels.
All weather Ballons carry a linear thread marked with bright orange and red markings without any Solar panels.
@@Blitzkers99 exactly why would they their only to measure the weather for short periods of time and do scientific studies? plus a normal weather balloon isn't the size of like 3 busses
My thoughts exactly
*balloon
Because it wasn't a weather balloon
This "weather balloon" is like a "pizza" truck with a huge sattelite dish on top being parked outside White House or something 😅😂
🤣🤣
For real it's true
Clown biden administration lol zero respect for USA
A pizza truck? Is that a thing? It’s usually a random car delivering pizza where I am
... and sadly that is not nearly as unlikely as you'd think. Large RV's do wander around Washington, DC. Occasionally they find themselves parked in very close proximity to various sensitive places at extremely convenient times.
It just "happened" to go over a US nuclear weapons facility. If it was just a weather balloon, China would not have an issue for anyone shooting it down as it clearly went off course and they can easily make more of them. No country has an issue with countries shooting down weather balloons if it would go off course. The sheer size of the balloon is ridiculous, as there are no other weather balloons of this size in other countries. If the Chinese government is getting upset over it, that just shows how silly their excuses are.
The real nuclear deterrence is submarines … we are not worried about the nuclear land sites … so it’s about 250 nukes … we have about 4,000 … they saw nothing
Word! All these whiny sycophants these days are disturbing. Are they all China and Russian sock puppets? Humanity is in serious trouble if this is the level of commitment to preserving free countries on this planet. Fascists don't play nice. Grow up people... This ain't a game
Challenge: Plot a line through the US that doesn't intersect with a nuclear facility or other military/government asset
the communist have always been known to be silly, crazy, dangerous, controlling, power hungry, greedy and paranoid.
to be fair, the higher something is, the more land it has coverage of. If you are 10 feet in the air, you see a lot more than 100 feet and more if you're 1000 or 100000 feet. So it coming over a nuclear weapons facility is not that strange considering it would have gone over a lot of land and had equally as good footage of tens of thousands of square miles at the same exact time.
I obviously don’t have access to communication between China and US, but IF it was a weather balloon that went off course, did China contact US to say so?
You know it wasn't no damn weather balloon
this is my first thought
Isn't it basic courtesy to let the owner of the property to know you're entering their space, espescially if it's by accident since you don't want any missunderstanding
Moreover the excuse that a weather balloon going off course can easily be checked by looking at the history of unexpected weather condition these past few months, and if china said they didn't manage to detect those changes, US could then attack by saying China doesn't have great weather technology.
They at first denied that the balloon was theirs.
It was no spy barrooon it was weather barrrooon
They did not tell the US. Only said it AFTER they got caught
I think they are not asking the right questions.
Ask China
Why would a "weather balloon" need such a huge solar array capable of supplying power to 3 homes?
If it's just "Civilian Weather balloon ", who issued and received the international permits to fly over international airspace ( Japan, USA, Canada ) ?
Over 1,000 Weather balloons are launched every day and they can be tracked, There is a webpage for that, why was that one and the other not in the list.
If China cares sooooooo much about international rights, why no inform of such simple things as a weather balloon?
中国人想干什么就干什么
China is making fun of you for not being able to shoot it down, not sure they expected the joke to go over so many westerner's head.
What a good question. Oh well. Civilians in the nation of China all need to be asking that question. Not me. China is where all Chinese civilians are living right now aren't they?
@@zelinzhao4857 bot outside of China they can't.
@@zelinzhao4857 我想他们可以。他们使用委婉语并不断尝试，但我认为世界已经醒了。
至少他们说了“对不起”并道歉，但后来他们撒了谎。他们一定是世代相传的病态说谎者。
"You shot an insignificant, civilian weather balloon. Now prepare for retaliation!" 🤣
Yeah, why are they acting upset if it's just a weather balloon?
@@SarahNGeti why not ? It looks like killing civil in a war.
A chinese weather balloon that just happened to drift over a u.s. nuclear weapons facility. Yea ok.
It was studying the climate change effects on US missile silos
@@warriormonk3062 lmao 🤣
*Chinese
*US
*Yeah, ok.
@@alvallac2171m
How do you control a Chinese spy balloon? That only goes up and down? Wow you must be a rocket scientist lmfao 🤣
If that is only a weather ballon, why is China taking this to such a level. Also, if they had a ballon as such, would they just ignore it?
I, strongly feel that China is going to attack the US very soon
Is it really China who is taking it to such a level?
Relations are strained and China wants to play strongman domestically. In the U.S., Republicans can exploit it. Both still hold if it was indeed a weather ballon.
@@user-ki4llalm6kr Literally people cannot see this it’s crazy. It’s just a ballon, they apologised for it and said to be calm. If I was America I would reclaim it and give it back to them in good faith to help build a better relationship. Once you reclaimed it you can identify if it was a “spy balloon” or not and see if China was lying. But instead they shot it down with a missile increasing tensions between the two countries pushing them further to war and now you have people cheering.
These are the correct questions.
Maybe the Chinese used the balloon as a distraction for something else
lol for what?? Another spy mission to steal our IPs? 🤣 China should pay attention to 100s of millions of Covid infected population and hundreds of thousands dropping like flies. But then CCP China doesn’t value their own people’s lives even. Sad country.
@@fgerv as long as they do not send in a copy of orange mussolini circus...
哈哈哈，是的，下一次可能气球搭载的就不是气象设备了，呵呵
It's not a bad theory, but to me it seems like they did this on purpose to get a reaction. But who knows.
I don’t see why they’re so upset china would take the same action if there was a US balloon over Chinese airspace
事实上。60年代美国的气球就全世界溜达了。而且被中国击落过
CCP and double standards are synonymous.
China wouldn't even give any country even a time to explain. they just make up the lie later.
In this case they got caught red handed and got called out for it.
This is way more embarrassingly then simply getting caught. They got caught and called out for it, lied, and when the US didn't bite just blew it out of the sky so they can go over what the invader was doing.
Chinese hypocracy...
Look up NOAA's Windborne W-273 balloon.
These espionage incidents between China and US are not so rare. I wonder why this is all public now
Social media
Reportedly three such incidents occured during the Trump administration but we never heard about it. Interesting that the Republicans are criticizing Biden for not shooting it down right away even though the military was given the green light to shoot it down last Wednesday, which the Republican leadership must have been aware of. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.
Manufacturing consent for military industrial complex to make more money.
@@sww313 OFFS
Well, usually spying each other are doing covertly, this is just china saylng 'look at me' they feel left out while the world focused on Russia.
China would have declared war if the U.S. had flown one of these over their land!
You really don’t understand Chinese , do you ?
They don’t care about fight, war, etc etc.
They just care about making money, money and money.
That’s all in their mind all the time; making money, money and more money.
and you have evidence we don't? please share. Oh, you are sworn to secrecy as a top engineer with DARPA? what a patriot!
They wouldn't. They would continue talking big because that's all they can do.
They already do that by not balloons but spy planes buddy... Americans are literally selfish because they do everything & if someone else does the same they have tons of excuses for them
@@histershellac2842 The chinese rammed a US patrol plane that was over the China Sea
Why would they employ such visible means of espionage ?
China likes to poke at its adversaries. They want to see how they react to such an obvious espionage scenario.
Mostly the US does not respond, there were previous instances of this in the early Biden administration and in the Trump administration.
The only reason the US responded now is because it went public.
USA: We send warships and jets to scare the Chinese off.
China: Dont waste money on USA. Not worthy. Send a 🎈 will do.🤣🤣🤣
to demonstrate their incompetence
@@item6931 you are right. The world is laughing about the hysteria, paranoid, incompetent reaction of USA over a 🎈. 🤣🤣🤣
Because they had no choice, at this height anything not white is overheated, except for special materials of course
If it is just the weather balloons then why is China so angry lol
Some important information on it
Where do you get "China so angry"? their response is very proper for this stage of the event? They apologized few days ago after USA made this into such a huge public deal, then shot it down with fighter jets in front of the public, so would you expect the balloon country just remain silent and not say anything? that option was out of the window when USA blown this whole event out of proportion few days ago.
@@newborn6 don't trust anyone anything can happen
@@newborn6 it is not out of proportion when an unknown vessel enters your airspace from a country you are not on good terms with.
China is happy to get excuse of shooting any US aircraft on those islands in South China sea.
it's that kid checking the weather with his binoculars pointed at you in your house from your lawn... saying he had no control over his own feet...
So you shoot him with a .30-06
And said it is a spy ballon
If it is/was a spy balloon, how would they have thought they'd get away with it? Seemed like it was easy (too easy) to detect.
Not if you insist it is a weather balloon.
CCP is not bright.
It was technically in unregulated space (above 66,000 feet) by international law, so they can point this out as an instance of US hypocrisy as long they don't ever admit it was a spy tool.
Listen to the guy (from Singapore) in the clip. It could be some elements within Chinese govt trying to derail Blinken's visit, and that top brass in China is left embarrassed.
Our General Milley has assured them of a warning before any aggressive actions by the US when Trump was Commander in Chief and Biden is compromised by them. Also it was capable of transmitting data in real time. A better question is how and why it was not shot down over Alaska or Montana and why it was shot down with a missile instead of a gun so as to make it easily recoverable and reverse engineered. Pretty sure the heat seeking sidewinder missile blew all of the electronics to bits.
Considering it was permitted to complete it's mission of flying a course over the USA it would seem they did get away with it. Perhaps a secondary mission was to grade our response. If it took this Administration several days to shoot down a balloon we should be happy it wasn't a supersonic nuclear warhead.
It's really hard to think how it works, thanks DW to make one.
The real question is. Why didnt they retrieve it and find out the truth. Blowing it up and leaving no evidence seems suss.
If it were indeed a weather balloon China would've said something in advance to not alarm the US. Something diplomatic like "sorry guys, we lost a science experiment. It will enter your airspace accidentally on this and this course. Can you please retrieve it for us? Thanks."
/edit: typos corrected
Exactly.
that is exactly what China said.
China said they lost control of a weather balloon.
@@leihtory7423 China did not give any advance warning of a 'stray weather balloon'. However, they did admit later that the balloon was theirs, but only after it was reported in the media.
This is like someone throwing a bottle in your face then telling you "I have no idea where that bottle came from".
They're making fun of you and you're making it worse by trying to recall if that bottle really came from the person's hand.
It's pretty hard tobretrieve something like that
If it really was just a weather balloon, why you so mad?? 🤔
Someone punched you in the face then said "how dare you hit my fist with your face".
No they're not mad, they're humiliating you.
@@vlhc4642 in this case the fist was an AIM 9X, and the face is giant baloon, no wonder they are so mad 😂😂😂
This is a matter of national dignity. China is a superpower that can be on an equal footing with the United States. Does China need to say sorry to the Americans?It's impossible
*ANSWER* because it looks more like a moon than a balloon, most of the citizens would’ve mistaken it for a moon, the citizen who was able to see through it deserves a medal, if it weren’t for him, he has an eye of an eagle which is rare, people in the U.S would’ve continued mistaking that balloon for a moon
Speculations is not news
If China condemns it, it means it's good.
The US tore down all Huawei cell equipment so this is the alternative to intercept US cellular communications.
US: you fly balloon
China: you fly kites
plot twist: it was actually a weather balloon (troll level expert)
@@kierensummers2441 that thing is a whole university lab group
It wasn't a weather balloon.
It was a stork delivering the Kuwaiti incubator babies.
You could also use a balloon if you wanted to 'sprinkle' something in the air, or for dropping other types of payloads for various purposes. Which is why I feel they should've used a more gentle method for getting it down; the balloon might already have ejected the parts necessary for whatever function it was sent for.
Why SHOULDChina is using "METEOROLOGICAL BALLON
To spy on usa WHEN CHINA COULD HAVE USED MORE SOPHISTICATED
Satellite To SPY IN MONTANA STATE WHERE THE USA KEEP/ STORE BALLISTIC MISSILES???
IM MY OPINION CHINA IS TESTING THE PATIENCE OF US DEPARTMENT, PENTAGON AND THE INCUMBENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE...!!
SOMEONE JUST AFFIRMSTHAT WHEN ISRAEL USED * SPWARES* , USA DOES NOT UTTER ANY CRITICISM...???
TERRY KEW
MAURITIUS.
Man you scared me when I read this, because as I was reading the comments. The three above yours. I was kind of thinking the same thing, but ina different way. Okay in each container are thousands of football size viles are dropped over certain areas that will release it's contents once it hits the ground. Prefect place for a plan attack. No one would enter the area because of how lethal the germs are. They will enter through Canada. 🤔😵💫😳👍😎❤️🇺🇸
Sure but. With every plastic dongle in the USA made and shipped by the million ton every day on ships... Why would you even bother to drop something with a balloon.
The Chinese balloon was in American air space. So, the USA can do whatever they want with the Chinese balloon 🎈
who told you it was a Chinese balloon, because American thinks everything is made in China? 😅
@@chhewee China admitted it was Chinese. Stop being silly.
@@chhewee China literally said it was theirs
@@chhewee if its not theirs then just say its not theirs. why bother with all the weather balloon excuse shts.
Balloonophobia🎈😱 🇺🇸
That it had propulsion invalidates the “blown off course” claim.
Even without propulsion the wind is predictable. The Japanese let balloons float over the USA during ww2 to start fires knowing how the wind blows.
"it's very unlikely that it's a weather balloon" -Iain Boyd
Xhina getting close to pulling the shaggy defense
The balloon was obviously a decoy,
How could anyone possibly believe that this balloon wasn’t supposed to be seen by anyone?😂
It was designed similar to weather Ballons,US has many of them ,they simply thought US would assume it as a weather Ballon but its Massive size Solar panels were Spotted
Oh no spy baloon so scared. "I see one of them now...!" ("what are they doing?") "He's lighting up a cigarette" (".... diabolical sons of bitches!!")
It probably had steerable electric ducted fans also to provide it propulsion and steering.
i think its a combination of weather and spy balloon, it depends on each side how they will call it but is more likely a balloon that are gathering data on the US airspace to know how frequent the US patrolling there Airspace and there time of reaction when intruders violate there airspace..this balloon will not be the only offcourse balloon it will keep in happening..
First of all there is no proof that’s from China . Usa is good at spreading rumors
For what it's worth... That balloon had the capability to operate at a height that would be optimal for an atmospheric nuclear EMP detonation. Supposedly there were multiple flights over several countries over several years. It can reposition itself over a target by adjusting ballest or gas and we are told to believe that in China's words it was a "civilian" aircraft. How innocuous and how sinister.
Maybe when they recover whats left from the waters of the Carolina coast we'll be told more.
did anyone suddenly forget that weather study is vital part of recon?
Ian Chong from the National University of Singapore was so clear and precise. TY, DW.
It was in the Jet Stream, so it was targetted at the US but it was a method that can hit a state rather than a specific place.
With height, you can compensate the inaccuracy, also there are ways to havr some control systems on a baloon
@DW News Thank you, maybe you could try to get answers to these questions in a follow up?
• What strategically valuable information can actually be gathered by such a device (supposed it is a spy balloon)?
• How might China specifically use this information?
• Why could the balloon not be examined - and eventually be collected - by a drone?
thx
Too high to be “collected”. The F-22 is one of the few aircraft that fly that high. Not sure China gathered much. The US Space Force was jamming it the whole time it was in US airspace. It was brought down over shallow waters to ease debris retrieval, where the Coast Guard was positioned.
First: The probes on the payload appeared to be antennae, meaning they were likely trying to listen to radio frequencies. There were multiple antennae as well, so it would be doing a wide band sweep, and it may even be trying to triangulate radio transmission towers. I would also assume given the size of the payload that they added LIDAR, SONAR, RADAR, and infrared cameras. Some of this technology could be ground-penetrating.
So, your second point: These radio transmission towers are high value targets. If your enemy cannot transmit information back and forth, you have the upper hand. The same logic applies to any satellite dishes they find. They could triangulate the direction they're pointing and using the time of measurement, discover which areas of the sky the dish is receiving and/or sending information to/from. They could then target the dishes, or the satellites themselves, knowing where they are. The LIDAR would provide a very highly detailed surface scan of everything below it. (It's not actually LIDAR, but the technology is very similar, tailored for long-range detection, so it's a good stand-in) This is useful to understand the geography, resources, and location of military assets. This is useful in multiple ways:
1. It can give you the upper hand in planning an assault.
2. It can give you the upper hand in planning the required force to take an objective.
3. It can give you the upper hand in pivoting from an original plan to a fallback plan, therefore making your original plan more effective by having a good back up.
4. It can give you the upper hand in selecting targets for your air force to pinpoint which would be devastating to your ground forces.
5. It can give you the upper hand in morale, when your forces see an active, detailed plan in motion, they're less likely to give up and surrender.
^These same concepts apply for SONAR and RADAR (Again, not actually SONAR and RADAR but similar enough.) The infrared would be useful for detecting personnel, and given enough time, it could be used to decipher patrol routes, shift changes, active times of day and inactive times of day, when people are in bed vs. when people are up walking around, it can also be used to detect heat signatures from vents pumping out gas from an underground facility, and again, some of this technology could be used to discover certain bunkers.
Your third point: It's too high to collect. It's also *extremely* difficult to intercept a stationary airborne target. It's not as easy as just pointing your plane at it and dropping a hook to grab it. Any vehicle capable of achieving 60,000 feet in altitude has an extremely hot exhaust anyways, which will definitely destroy the payload if it's being dragged behind the plane. There's way too high of a risk of the plane becoming entangled with the balloon. By far the safest and easiest way to get the balloon down is to shoot it down. As for the contents of the payload, they will still exist after they fall to Earth. Especially over water.
I want to post this disclaimer: I used stand-ins so that I didn't get anywhere near any classified information. We hardly use radio transmission towers or satellite dishes in the military but we do have high value targets which, not only our communications depend on, but our infrastructure and everyday society as well. Any of those high value targets could severely hamper our military in their efforts to defend our nation or could cause mass chaos.
yeah, and a balloon like that fly on random direction, its like someone is practicing air defence but at the same time making up story and said its a spy balloon from china Lol
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,TikTok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
Tik tok is the real spying platfom
I'd like to have a scaled-down version in my office. Does anyone know where to order one? Probably will be available on Aliexpress in a couple of days.
1m in diameter, + camera and accessories, $200.
3m in diameter, + camera and accessories, $400.
Aliexpress cn
Both people interviewed were very informative and weren't selling their books. The difference between DW News and CNN.
You DO NOT need a Chinese American to narrate to you what is or isn't American law in regards to vertical space limits.....
That balloon is the exact delivery vehicle for an EMP
Or viruses.
Wrong. An emp at 60,000 feet would be very ineffective. You need be much higher if you want I knock out the grid over North America.
@@oregonsbragia Wouldn't need to knock out the whole grid. Just sections you want knocked out.
@@oregonsbragia that's not true at all! Emp's are generally used between 1 and 5 miles. That is considerably less than 60,000 feet
@@oregonsbragia my sources say optimal altitude is between 60k-95k depending on atmospheric conditions. This balloon did spend time at over 80k altitude but lowered its self to 60k when entering US airspace.
That's exactly it, it could transmit data in real time (back to China), however I'm pretty sure the US came up with some sort of jamming their signal before it was too late ie. before the balloon entered the skies over Alaska or soon after. (also, very strange China wouldn't have envisaged all that)
China sends these balloons out constantly. where you see one, you don't see another hundred. the US does similar things. we've been spying on each other since the 60s.
Jamming signal? Lol, I doubt it
The whole world is laughing about the hysteric and paranoiac reaction of US ( The World best air defense ) over a 🎈.
Usa afraid of balloons? Lol 🤣🤣🤣 new battle for San Francisco? Lol 🤣 stop trading with choina and spot giving em new technologies for free , but nope :))) we must grow a big wealth choina , we loving the communism
You watch too much movies pal
I was today years old when i found out the differences between balloons and satellites.......
I didn’t know balloons could be controlled. I thought they went where the winds took them.
No counter measures besides rockets. Would be nice to overtake such balloons and bring them down safety.
We could send up a drone with a way to pop the balloon. Then grab it. Or grab it in free fall. It wouldn’t fall too quickly.
@@MattyJ55046 The balloon is not a parachute. The equipment is the size of 3 school buses and likely weighs over 100 lbs. My personal guess is it probably has about 250 lbs of payload. It will fall fast. There is no system in existence for capturing falling objects. What you're describing is an impossibility in more than one way.
@@YodaWasSith if you shoot at the balloon with bullets it would only cause leaks and the balloon of that size would descend slowly.
@@hzhang1228 Let me repeat for you, since you can't read.
There is no system in existence for capturing falling objects.
*countermeasures
It seems a little odd. A US fighter jet chasing and shooting a balloon 🎈.
Would the information thatcwasccollected by the balloon's sensors be stored locally on the balloon or uploaded to the cloud?
Any thoughts?
It was jammed all the time. No way it could either send or receive anything.
At an altitude of about 18 km, the balloon was well above the clouds.
@@ibingobingo Raspberry jam or strawberry?
Measuring the weather world wide could be extremely beneficial
DW can't wait to start its analysis before the real "evidence" can be gathered.
It's mischievous behavior. Simple as that.
It's 2023 and humanity is still fascinated by balloons.....
If the balloon had a second internal balloon with an air compressor, it could fly anywhere as crosswinds go in different directions at different latitudes. Just inflate the inner balloon to go down then get blown west, deflate and rise up to go another direction etc. That's how hot air balloon travel but with a elevation different system.
Some weather balloon expert they had on that didn't know you could easily control balloon flight paths.
No it couldn't..
your joke make my day
thats why they end up crashing into powerlines and stuck in trees right
It was a spy ballon. Plain and simple. Go study war history during when the ballon was first used in espionage, throughout different countries and empires, etc ... Then have the nerve to state such nonsense again. What is more, go learn Chinese, and know the term "weather" is also used colloquially, as it is also used in English. Wow, such comments, such as yours, etc... without knowing, are so damn ignorant. The CPC would be proud of you. Even the KMT and DPP in the ROC Province of TaiWan, have stated it was a CPC PLA spy ballon, and they (KMT and DPP spokespersons) speak Mandarin Chinese, as do the PRC CPC authorities in the Mainland city of BeiJing also. do.
@@jonnie2bad Those are pretty rare events. Approximately 0.01% of air balloon flights end in an uncontrollable crash landing.
EDIT: I changed "Maybe 1 in 100 flights end in an uncontrollable crash landing" because that was wrong, and very, very far from the truth. In fact, it was wrong by a factor of 100.
A civilian weather balloon stays up so long and travel so far is very remarkable. Why manufacturing something like that for weather monitoring? Given the slow speed of a balloon, might it be likely for it to be ignored by air defense systems?
Yea you have good points.
No.
it is not remarkable at all; in fact weather balloons can travel globally; the difference in this case is the size which is why the yanks think it is surveillance
Bcos your Chinese
Evidence for its being a spy balloon?
It makes no sense what he said! The question is what does a balloon do that a satellite cannot? I don't think that much
Make the news headlines
Wow that was vague ...
A sensor package to monitor climate change and ice build up and ice melt in the artic region would have cameras. On difference would be the resolution of the cameras. For studying ice melt the camera would have a large field of view (eg 60deg) while for spying the cameras would have a narrow field of view and show a lot of detail, see features as small as 5 cm on the ground.
Yeah, I think this will be the point the us makes.
According to experts in the field of military espionage and that of meteorology, it was not a weather ballon. Also, that the ballon device had propellers, etc... including surveillance equipment used in SigInt. Just be honest, BeiJing. So simple.
@PRC MSS, PLA
HenDouRenYiJingZhiDao, NaGeQiuZhenBuShiTianQiQiQiu. BieShuoHuangHuaLeBa.
The CCP isn’t gonna tell the truth
你哪只眼睛看到它有螺旋桨了？
*balloon
@@cristolin1619 WeiShenMe? 🫣😉😄
If a balloon wants to move by propellers, it should be designed like a airship with a streamline shape and have all its propellers fixed about its body, which is already proved and tested more than 100 years ago.
I wonder if Winnie the Pooh believes his own alibi? At least China did not claim it's a pinata balloon from a children's party.
Why is there a SECOND off course balloon then????
I am just afraid that since balloons that moves slowly are able to enter airspace without early detection then we aren’t safe when it come to war, especially nuclear war 😢
No one is safe
Remember 9/11
Sad thing is that us and canada was tracking it 2 days before when it first showed on media.
Just thinking, why not send a drone to really observe it first instead of blowing it up 🤔
mmmm .. perhaps with another smaller balloon? Not sure can it get to the same height.
Because there's not enough air at 50,000 ft to generate the necessary lift.
Can a drone fly up to 58,000 feet to "scrutinize" the balloon?
@@raynmanch Global Hawk can
but more importantly, why didn't they just strap a sniper pod to an F15 and get a close look at it? The jets have no problems flying at that altitude.
I meant a heavy duty drone... Like, military grade.
How did it change course?
It was a gradiometer.
My main concern is .. what is the weather forecast for next Tuesday, and this china balloon could hold the key to it.
Hasn’t Google been doing this, just with much higher precision, for years, all over the world, in every single country, in every single piece of land? I didn’t see anyone ever had problem with that. 😂
project loon?
Got to get everybody scared and living in fear, all part of the agenda of the dark forces.
USA GPS:who is calling me the best spyer
Odd, "balloons" that can stop and hover. Over nuke sights and sensitive areas.
For those of us who fly domestically within China, we’ve come to realize that there will always be delays because of the narrow channels that domestic flights have to operate in because over 80% of China’s airspace are controlled by the military. How is it even possible for that balloon to have started where it did in Northwest China and travel all across these no-fly zones and that people were not notified about this balloon. The CCP should have immediately notified countries that would be on the balloons route, that it was off course, and it was simply an accident. They knew fully well where the ballon was and where it was heading!
USA: We send warships and jets to scare the Chinese off.
China: Dont waste money on USA. Not worthy. Send a 🎈 will do.🤣🤣🤣
BTW, you'd better take your high school geography textbook in order to recall smoething regarding the atmosphere circulation.
@@baotutubenbenxiong We all know the way the winds circulate around the world so there’s no problem with the fact that a balloon that somehow escaped from China ended up in North America but how do you explain the fact that balloons have been floating over South America and Central America. Those balloons would have been escaped from somewhere farther south than China exists. How about that dairy farm in New Zealand?
@@truenorthstrongandfree3699 So based on your notion, opinion, Chinese Scientific Research team cannot use their own civil fleet to release another balloon on into the air of the south semisphere on open international water area? What's hack? Can only US has the occupation called scientists? The other country cannot do any research or probe the the atmosphere circulation stream? Look at you, have you ever know not only US government has scientific probe fleet? Do you think you live in early 20th century? China as a country has more young people who gained doctor degree, why cannot it deploy the balloon on the modern fleets like their NOAA counterparts does everyday?
But before all of this, Who showed you the evidence that this is a spy balloon? Who told you? And who besides US DoD told you there are another balloon? And did US DoD ever told they deploy dozens of balloons over Chinese sky? Just because you cannot read Chinese you don't know those information, and your media doesn't tell you those matters, not mean you act normally. Anything your military units has found on the balloon is related to military use? days ago your goernment put a list of saction that it 6 enterprises related to this balloon, as a Chinese obviously candistinguish that this balloon has nothing to do with military purpose just because they are all private enterprises, not like the US, thh Chinese defense industrial contractors cannot be private firms, that's why I even more clearly confirm this is absolutely NOT a military balloon.
Anyway, most people over the wolrd know that trying to argue with US people and its government usually in vain, you people and your regime only believe in the military power, then 20years later lets argue that again. Now you'd better cover your nose to prevent the smoke from the derailed train.
I'd rather choose it have been a military balloon if I could, but it was not. I was disappointed, as we cannot reply your dozen times of survilliance flight off Chinese coast per year.
@@baotutubenbenxiong first of all something which is very typical of people who have been brought up under the Chinese regime, they automatically feel that anybody who says anything contrary, or questions to CC P’s motives they’re automatically labelled as an American. I hate to break the news to you, but I’m not a big fan of the US and I am not an American, but I do understand that, too in tone that one of your weather balloons somehow became untethered and drifted. oversensitive military installations in the US is a little far-fetched don’t you think.? The CCP had Apple time to notify the world that one of their supposed meteorological balloons was now travelling free in the air streams around the world, but that’s a little hard to believe when a meteorological balloon does not have instruments the size of three buses hanging beneath it.
Has anyone thought this could also be a way to disseminate virus or bacteria in a large territory?
First explain how pathogens survive when dispersed from 18,000 meters.
Yes! A trojan horse tactic
Oh yeah, we're getting the real big brain scientists to comment now. Ol' galaxy brain here, why didn't the military hire you to come up with the brilliant idea of....*checks notes....
Releasing a virus without a host into -70 F air while the literal jet stream is blowing 275 mph to the East (Which is where China is).
Man, this guy really knows how to biological warfare. I dunno how the virus will survive the temps, the wind, or living without a host, but then again, I'm not a scientist so clearly I just don't understand.
@@eyestoenvy
Did you not read comment above yours?
@@blackwatertv7018 meaning that we are to foolishly assume that such technology does NOT exist because it is neither in our knowledge or possession? Yea, such complacency will keep us safe and secure indeed 👌
Philippines: why did you shoot it down US? When Chinese vessels enter our waters we do nothing.
They wouldn’t be mad if it was a weather balloon.
Actually cute that someone complains about someone pop his balloon 🎈……
*popping
it is a good deal China sends a $500 dollar balloon and it costs USA $2.2 million dollars to shoot it down. 😁😁😁😁
Well, everything in China is cheap.
that's easily 200k
China will pay for it, if you ask Trump.
1.1 million for the balloon and spy equipment on board.
Technically very very Sharp
I don’t know why everybody’s all excited. It was a piñata that got away from my party
Chyna being sneaky and trashy
Typical China: Lie & steal is all they can do.
Like the usa for decades
Chins dragon and the
Russian bear has awoken
The US does it much better. We either sanction or invade countries we don't like.
‘Said by the USA’😅
it is just too great a distraction from the military disaster in Ukraine.
China: There will repercussion.
USA: Really!?
Because it cutting edge Chyynese technology
It just happens to go from China to Hawaii then all the way to Alaska then right to Montana and then over nuclear facilities then all the way over to the east coast. That’s quite the fight pattern for a randomly floating weather balloon.
The military is most likely working with China though but had to do something because the public demanded it. Shooting it down a week too late shows they didn’t want to stop it’s spying if it was. Also shooting it down over the ocean intentionally makes it very difficult if not impossible to recover the electronics needed to determine what was gathered.
The Chinese technology must be centuries ahead of the technology in the US and its vassals (AKA the vulgar barbaric gangs of thieves and murderers) for being able to control the movements of a balloon.
2 things we learn from this. This is how American Air Force hit pinata. And Chinese pinata has no candies, regardless how big and how high it was.
lol another two things're clear, American Air Force doesn't have the capacity to shoot it down until the ballon was at much lower level over the sea. And using 3 missiles to finish the job compares to China only using 1 missile to shoot down an American's spy ballon in 2019 shows how accurate the Uncle Sam's gun was.
Chong has on those x-ray glasses. Wow spy balloons killer kites high altitude paper airplanes x-ray glasses !!! Lol it's like ordered from a 1950s to early 80s comic book ads
To send sickness on the wind.
How does a balloon like this achieve altitude control? At a guess it flew high over the pacific at 120000ft and then lowered to see things more clearly
Compare the course of the balloon with the jetstream over Canada and the US and You will find a perfect match.
You don't really. Also how'd it get there from China, they are pretty darn far away. Besides real weather balloon can be tracked publicly online.
@@First-Last_name Tge jetstream goes around the world. And it goes from China up to Alaska, and down towards Conus. It all matches up.
@@First-Last_name It was tracked. It first entered the US over Alaska, then flew over Canada before entering the US again over Montana and exited over the Carolinas.
Yes, and the jet stream is predictable. The balloon's course was deliberate.
@@First-Last_name Lol, go learn history. Japanese sent balloons over the USA to start fires during ww2 because the wind was predictable.
" a propller in the ballon" I cant even more...I give up. Its a case for The Simpsons ...
The goodyear blimp is a balloon with engines and a propeller
*propeller
*balloon
*can't
*It's (contraction of "it is" or "it has")
its = possessive
Not unlike those before us , a study of jet stream currents like ocean currents can deliver you across the pond and bring you back or leave one stranded . Knowledge is power .
''its a trap''
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I'm confused about this. Why use a balloon. Aren't satellites pretty accurate in zooming in on earth's surface?
A balloon is much cheaper and can also collect data from signals, I believe.
the communist love playing mind games....this is about spying, testing U.S. military leadership response and slapping the face of the U.S. government.
The video explains the benefits of using a balloon
I'm also extremely confused by this. Sure there are benefits to using a balloon, but why would China risk political backlash by deploying a giant balloon that can be seen by the naked eye. People are so paranoid that they aren't thinking straight.
they already have spy satellites. can even chase objects. keep your windows closed when you shower so you can't be seen
Nope! Propellers? That's laughable!
if it was just a "weather balloon" why would China even bother to give it any attention....instead of threatening repercussions?
Because US said it is for spy without evidence just like cell phone and 5G equipment
The Chinese want this balloon to be the story. Why is that? They knew it would be seen. It was in no way an attempt to be covert, unless they are incomeptent beyond measure. Great tech by the way, truly state of the art balloonage.
Yes it seems that way. Is this just a big diversion from something else that is going
now that they want to keep secret?
USA: We send warships and jets to scare the Chinese off.
China: Dont waste money on USA. Not worthy. Send a 🎈 will do.🤣🤣🤣
I completely agree. It seems like they just wanted a reaction and response out of America.
@@BabaYaga826 Yet US ships are in South China sea, China can't scare them off.
US shoot down balloon, China cry. They can't do anything else about it. They want the balloon back, they won't be getting it. Maybe they cry again? 😢😢
@@ED-TwoZeroNine Yeah, USA send a F-22 to down a 🎈 with a missile. Well down USA. USA must be damn proud for such awesome achievement. The world superpower country using a fighter jet to shoot a 🎈 from China. USA should celebrate it as Public Holiday annually. Proud of USA 🤡 The whole world is laughing about the hysteric and paranoid reaction of US over a balloon. Now you know why USA ran off from Kabul in the middle of the nite. Cry harder 🤡
I'm wondering why they didn't paint it blue or grey, wouldn't it be much less visible than this shiny thing?
Maybe to reflect heat and stay cool? I don't know, I'm just speculating.
Why have one moon when you can have two?
They even have transparent material for weather balloons. Let’s not kid ourselves. There is nothing “covert” about this balloon. It was meant to be seen.
Because radar, at least China assumed Americans have them, evidently its debatable if their assumption is true.
China uses Balloon to HUMILIATES the Greatest Powerful Country...🤣🤣🤣
To be passive aggressive I think, while still accomplishing somewhat their objective. Either way no matter what I believe it's fishy.
Kids play with baloon. I rather play with flying XPEV.😂
we have salitelites, wtf will a balloon see what gigantic cameras in orbit cant?
if you ask me.. this whole situation is a little blown up.
The media is blowing this up..
*We
*satellites. WTF
*see that
*can't
@@alvallac2171 Gast ga lekker iemand anders lastig vallen met je spelling en grammatica. Zielepoot.
Wees blij dat ik überhaupt de tijd neem om in het engels te typen online.