Dewalt FlexVolt 12" Cordless Miter Saw vs. Milwaukee Fuel 18v 12" Cordless Miter Saw. Tool Duel!
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- We put the Dewalt 120v Cordless Flexvolt miter saw up against the all new Milwalkee Fuel 12" 18v cordless miter saw. We looked at specs, ease of use and power, but only one can win this Tool Duel. Don't forget to leave a comment to vote for who you think should win!.
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Milwaukee Fuel 18v cordless miter saw shrsl.com/30jqh
Dewalt Flexvolt Miter Saw
Dewalt Flexvolt cordless (duel power) miter saw imp.i284638.net/ORYNdW
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i think even if there was a clear winner the deciding factor will always be what brand your first drill was
I switched from Dewalt to Milwaukee, I've broken and shut down too many Dewalt Drills. I have never shut down my Milwaukee M18 Drill.
If Hilti had a better tool selection I would own Hilti over any cordless drill on the market. By far the most powerful 18 volt drill I've ever used. But the reality is this is my opinion, others may disagree. 😉
My first drill was Linda. I don’t see how that matters.
@@meibaum123 we got a dad with dad Jokes in the house
True! My dad had a corded dewalt drill when I was a kid... Man was that thing strong! Now I'm a dewalt guy myself about to have my first kid. And she's gonna be a dewalt girl.
@@meibaum123 lol epic man
I have both platform. Decided to get Dewalt because it was on sale at the time with free stand. Also love the fact you can plug in.
Love anything cordless. Makes for a much safer work site. Most new builds usually only have one plug up and running where many other trades are plugged in tripping the breaker. I have the Milwaukee 10” for 4 years now and love it for my interior railing work. Glad to see Milwaukee out with the 12” saw. I’d definitely would choose it over the Dewalt because Milwaukee uses only one battery so less grief to charge. I also like Milwaukee’s footprint being a bit smaller. Love the LED light!
My brother is all Milwaukee and I’m all Dewalt and we compare all the time. I like the dual power feed for when I’m constantly stationary. But I do like the deeper cuts the Milwaukee gives. They are both great saws and we love them both.
There's a vid on UA-cam of Milwaukee vs Dewalt drills. Dewalt literally sets on fire when directly connected to Milwaukee, while the Milwaukee stays cool. Dewalt is not really comparable to Milwaukee IMO! More along the lines of Bosch and Makita. In the video he was nice to the Dewalt but clearly Milwaukee was the winner.
Dust collection on the Milwaukee looks great. Removing the fence for the bevel is no deal breaker in my mind.
I like the Milwaukee tool line up and the truth is if I wasn’t so invested in dewalt the red would be my choice. The line of tools they have is great.
But let’s see how dewalt respond to them. We wait and see. If I had to buy one and didn’t have the dewalt platform I’m on🤔
I think I would go Milwaukee. But since I have never had one fail from anything dewalt I’ll stick right there. I mean I still got batteries from 2013 going strong 💪
I would have to agree, Milwaukee had won that. I own the flexvolt slider, however, if I was on red and black platform I would absolutely buy that saw. Dust collection awesome, just don’t like some placements on the Milwaukee as you pointed out. And the bevel numbers, they seem dull in the back. The yellow stands out better for my vision at least.
Does the cordless dewalt slide weight as much as the corded ?
Outstanding review my man! Thorough with great observations. 👍👍
Thanks so much Truly!!!
Just ordered the Dewalt 780 and it should be in next week. I'm just getting into woodworking and feel like I made a good choice. I wanted a saw that's more than I needed so I can grow into it as I get better.
First off great video dude! For me I'd go with the Milwaukee, I'm very heavily invested in the Milwaukee M18 line of tools, like 20 M18 tools and 11 M18 batteries and invested in their line and with 3 - 12amp batteries i don't think not being able to plug it in will be an issue. However I'll stick with my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw. They are both great saws, stick with the brand your invested in.
here in UK that dual power actualy have one more benefit ....if you work on private jobs its more convenient to use 240 v adapter (you dont havve to drag transformer) but if you go to work in regulated sites you need certifiet 110v saw(again dewalt have adaptyer) that saw do both plus have option to work with batteries
one more thing can you compare cut in super wet timber (like full cut 4 x6 orr bigger,pushing to max)
also i wonder about dewalt with 2 x 12amp batteries as they much better cells ,6amp were bit weak in my opinion i have 4 of them but with any my saws always grab 9 amp or 12
I would have to say the Milwaukee is the one more for me because the shadow line you could tell was way better even though you were out side making the perfect first cut saves so much time, but also the fact that the Milwaukee only takes one battery and can take any m18 battery is whats most important to me. still wish and hope that they would make a corded change out for the battery would be nice like the Dewalt.
Taking into consideration that the Flexy came out first and is an older design. I'd say the winner is the platform you are in. However, the saw is in dire need of updating. They also need to make more 120V tools like a 10" table saw. A 120V mid-size bandsaw, or drill press maybe? PPL need more reasons for 120V. It's kinda like the X12. Ppl like the line, but need more reasons compared to the normalized 20V line.
A 60V full size 1/2" router. A lighter BL version of the 7-1/4" miter is also needed. 20V BL update to the plate joiner. 20V 23G pin nailer.
Great comparison, Clint! The MDF sawdust test was quite interesting.
Thanks my Dude!!!!!!!! Yeah, when I first used the Milwaukee, I remember really being impressed with the dust collection system
I've got the dewalt and I really do like the corded option. The dust collection is a disaster though.
They are both excellent saws, I bought the DeWalt as I'm already in that platform. It runs great with two 12ah batteries and I love the fact that I can plug it in if there is power available. 👍🙂
From my experience, it didn't run well with the adapter.
I own the non-sliding version of the Dewalt, and love it. I also own the Milwaukee table saw and love both. If Milwaukee had a non-slider 12" it would be great. I love both companies so pick your weapon, you can't go wrong.
Man, that would be great if milwaukee can make a non sliding miter saw like dewalt. Maybe we will see one next year.
How do you like the milwaukee cordless table saw? Have you use a dado blade on it? That's why I'm also looking into it the milwaukee table saw.
Mine just arrived ! I love Milwaukee tools.
Thanks Clint @Tool Review Zone! Just because of you, I'll be picking up a new Milwaukee fuel, 12 inch, double bevel, compound sliding, miter saw to join our fleet of Sexy Flexy's. This will be the "owners saw" for now. Like button smeeshed!
And to be honest, the ability on the flexvolts to "plug in" to ac power is nice and all, but we never do. I've cut with the ac adapter maybe 2 or 3 times. I prefer the speed and power of the 9ah or 12ah batteries (3ah/4ah actually) vs ac power on those saws.
The 6ah (2ah) batteries..... Meh. Not so much. Besides, I packed my fleet with cordless tools for a reason. And it has certainly been a game changing experience. We have a plethora of 8ah HO and 12ah HO m18 batteries though, and the single battery producing that kind of power will be awesome! Milwaukee never fails to impress me. So thanks for the tool duel. And thanks for a 2020 write off. 😂
#TRZ4LIFE 🤙
#SMEEEEEESH
Thanks for the awesome comment and SMEEESH brother. I always appreciate it!
Thanks for the informative video. This helped me make up my mind.
Which one did you like best Catherine?
Dewalt Duel power is a must. I don’t want a saw to glide to smooth a little resistance is good. In case you slipped or you were bumped from behind when you’re working. Dewalt is using a thinner blade so there will be less sawdust Milwaukee was using a thicker blade twice as thick so it will be more sawdust in a sawdust bag. DeWalt is a lot older saw and it can still Compete with Milwaukee’s brand new spanking saw so just imagine if the Dewalt just came out with the saw it will be 10 times better than the Milwaukee. And remember the Dewalt is dual power and that’s what gets the win.
Thats a great comment. I agree that Milwaukee had some time to upgrade, but still a great saw from Dewalt for being out for a while.
Dual power takes the win??? It was a fail safe for desalt to put that as an option. Companies have a amendment to push Technology not linger and tether innovation. Reason why apple is so successful. You don’t see your car with a mule in the trunk just in case you run out of gas lol 😂 desalt is the Samsung of the tool world. They use to be on top, but Milwaukee always pushes the bar. Milwaukee for the win!
@@toolstech9630 and thats where youre wrong apple sheep. Apple hasnt had any innovation for the past 8-9years. Samsung wrecks apple. Gtfo troll
Love the dual power option for the dewalt. If Milwaukee had that I think I'd go Milwaukee but Dewalt wins this one for me because of that and the extra miter capability
Yea the Milwaukee seems a little nicer to use but the corded option on the DeWalt is a huge selling point that makes it much more versatile. I don't really get why all cordless tools don't have the option to plug in.
@@kobayashimaru8114why buy a cordless tool if you’re going to plug it in? My jobsites haven’t seen an extension cord in at least 5 years
Very important if you would like to saw with precision.
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade, it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / / HITACHI C12RSH2 / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact .
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
If you want you can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood. To this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw.
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blad is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut.If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blad.
Damn. If only the Milwaukee was corded also like the Dewalt
Same here, hopefully Milwaukee will get this technology
Plugging it in defeats the purpose of going cordless. Also, the dewalt runs much better on the batteries. The adapter sounds like a meat grinder.
Always like your reviews dude, definitely non biased and honest.
Thanks brother 👊
With dewalt when saw is tilted dust flaps aren't even in the way dont see issue there, red markers are on both sides of scale
I had the DeWalt I have it for more than a year I was amazed when I bought it it was hidden behind everything in the store Black Friday sale two years ago I paid like 6:50 on sale home cheapo I liked it because I can use electric as well
Hi TRZ,
After watching your video and looking into both cordless miter saw for a few months. I will purchase the Milwaukee.
I like them both but for me I don't really have or use the flexvolt batteries or tools. All my DeWalt tools are on the 20v line and I'm very happy with them. Plus DeWalt is making larger ah batteries with (21700) cells for the 20v line so now i really don't need the flexvolt. Plus some of their new tools have that power detect motor.
The reason i pick the Milwaukee. It works on one battery. Plus if you have two of the 12ah you will probably be good all day or even 2 days depending on the amount of cuts. Also i like that the blade guard stay up when changing.
Glad you pointed out all the little nick picks, that helps.
Man, this was a great video on both miter saw. Again, they both look great. I just think for my needs and likes i will purchase the Milwaukee.
You rock bro....
Thanks brother, I really appreciate the feedback and comments my friend
1:01
That shit came out of nowhere and was hilarious.
I see a lot of folks are concerned about glide resistance, i dont have that saw personally (i was really close to buy it) but was playing in shop with it in uk ad was really smooth, also on holidays I was in Poland and also played with it in shop, also smooth, its may be just single unit or i was lucky
For me, the dual-power option is game changing. I don't currently own either brand of these tools, but surely respect both. To me, these 2 saws represent the step up from the small/entry-level 7 1/4". A 7 1/4 saw would've required 2 passes to cut 4×6 that you used to demonstrate each saw's chop-c, could've been cut fully by either saw if it were placed flat(something I also would like to have seen.😎)
Perhaps a future comparison of limitations of different size sauce in the same brand, would also be great video idea. Hopefully, Home Depot (same place I buy all my Ryobi stuff🤠.) Would be down for sponsoring that video as well.
Incidentally, Ryobi is coming around with more Big Boy offerings. How about singling out Ryobi for the comparison!?
I saw a video of an actual contractor putting the Ryobi 7 1/4 Miter, along with collection of other stuff through the paces, on the jobsite.
You can buy a third party one for Milwaukee or build your own.
Amazing tool dual Clint brother
I have both and I gotta say, Dewalt cut more precise.
I have the 12” Milwaukee do you have any problems with it when doing repeat cuts for production. Mine has this glitch where it looses power. Almost like the battery is dead. It then picks back up after a second...it will barely spin and sound funny. But I let go of the trigger and it comes back on after a minute
How is the runtime on the millwaukee compared to dewalt?
Jason hemann I run it with either an 8 or 12. Dewalt runs a little longer with two 9ah.
Honestly, I’m starting to really liking it.
Terry Burgess that’s odd, I don’t notice any bogging. I use either 8ah HO or the 12 and don’t feel the power lost.
@@tommynguyen8942 I love dewalt. But I like using one charger even more. Once millwaukee releases the 23 Guage I think ill run red.
Great review and great timing!
Finally able to watch this duel thanks bro! Milwaukee for the WIN BABY!!!!! Both seem like awesome saws, however, I think Milwaukee put more effort into the details (dust collection, fence not interfering when mitering 45 degrees, less resistance when pulling down to make cut) whereas Dewalt focused on “how cool it would be to run cordless AND A/C!
Lol, yeah bro you are probably right. I think the cord option will be popular with a lot of people, but Milwaukee did really good on the 12", and I can't deny it's just an all around better saw
Sure ,China always win, we beat Us by their American
I have the Dewalt 780 and the Milwaukee 7.25 saws and love them both. Granted the 780 isn't the flexvolt, but it's essentially the same saw. You can't go wrong with either Milwaukee, Dewalt, Bosch, Makita or even the Metabo saws. hell, even the Hercules saw is rock solid since it's essentially a Dewalt 780 for the 779 price. Getting tribal over power tools is silly as none of the premium brands is actually superior to the next one. I will add this. As much as I loathe big brother type tracking apps and the misuse of such tech, as a contractor I love the fact that you can essentially disable a lot of newer Milwaukee tools remotely now. Steal my shit? FU, it's a door stop now lol
Good comparison video between Titans.. also I enjoyed seeing the dust blown to neighbors yard lol,I wouldn't do that but thought it was funny 😂👍🏼 hahaha
Old video, but nice review.
You demonstrated things I wouldn't have considered!
These are cordless tools. Therefore the Dewalt's corded capability should be offered as an accessory option.The said cost could then can be used to make the tool better in areas its lacking. Single battery usage with high capacity and ability to use any of the M18 battery is also a consideration. By all means both are acceptional tools and thus investing with your existing paltform would be the right choice IMHO. BTW thanks for informative review.
Cordless miter saw is on my “Next” list. I’m all DeWalt 20V right now, so leaning DeWalt - mainly with expectations of more FlexVolt tools. Dust collection appears to be a design afterthought on all tools for all brands, but Milwaukee was impressive - however, what happens when there’s a breeze or if your neighbor is returning the favor and blowing leaves into your yard? So, DeWalt dual power, twin batteries / charging station, and & price are the winning factors for me. Now, just waiting for a sale … or a big enough project as an excus - err - justification to buy new tool.
Just found your channel. Your videos are great. Really well made. You should have 5x the subs man. Keep it up.
Tucker, your the man bro. Thanks for the awesome comment and welcome to the channel!!!👊👊👊👊
Great honest review. I’d pick the Milwaukee too based on the very points you pointed out. Sometimes it’s just those simple things that makes a big difference. Also, prefer not having to use two batteries on the Milwaukee.😊
Thanks for the comment P F!!!
I had a lot of problems with DeWalt batteries and charges within 3 months and was given a hard time for the company. I gave the tools to my neighbor. I bought a Milwaukee and Ryobi going on 3 years no problems
thanks for useful tips, great and nice video~
Thanks Unit!!!
Hmmm.....the Dewalt will outlive the Milwaukee, due to the power cord! 20 years from, you might not be able to buy new batteries for these two saws, and that’s where the Dewalt will continue to be useful......just plug it into any wall outlet, with the included AC Adapter!
Lol 20 years from now you’ll get whatever is new as long as it lasts a good 5-8 years you’re good
100% dewalt for me, the corded option is a must have.
They all run like crap with the cord, would you agree?
I was talking crap when they got one at my job because it didnt have a cord option.. i cant think of one time i wouldve plugged it in yet. With a 12 and an 8 ah battery.. but id suggest you have them or 2 12s
then what's the point of buying a cordless? Just pay less for corded.
A up Brother just come across this video of you two years ago iv got the 240v Milwaukee love it….but it’s way to heavy so it stays in my workshop now getting to old to be carrying it around now Bro 😎 must admit you do look a lot younger than you do now lol 😝 You know I’m ya biggest fan Bro 😎 you have me in stitches every video 👍👍👍👍
Both nice saws but definitely dewalt for me since im already invested in dewalt. I also like that it could be plugged in. Wish the table saw had the power cord option.
Yeah I am hoping they will add the duel power to their table saw lineup too. That said, they did a great job adding the cord option to this as well
I guess that applies to all of us : once you invested in a battery platform, that is what you stick to, EVEN if the competitor gets better reviews. Milwaukee fan here. 😉
I have the Dewalt love it never used Milwalkee and i hate the fact your videos have so much great info
Hahaha, sorry bro lol
That goatee is most definitely flawless 😂
I mean, its definitely near perfect hahaha. Thanks Brad lol
I decided Dewalt for My First Miter Saw ! 12 inch Dual Bevel corded ! and I love it !
That was a great review mate the only problem is it was too good I don't know which to pick as I like the idea of dual power from Dewalt but Have Milwaukee everything else, oh you made me laugh blowing the dust over to next doors
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Great video! Hope you got lots of storage if HD keeps sending ya stuff lol! My favorite toy store!😁
Haha, I'm running out fast bro!
Tool Review Zone lol
Milwaukee FTW!!!💪🏽 the dust collection with the Milwaukee is superb👌🏽
@KelMaster Construction I didn't even think about that. You are right though, that fatter blade on the Milwaukee is removing far more material.
@KelMaster Construction Look at 11:52 to 11:60. The DeWalt simply left more dust on the table even if the blade was thinner than the Milwaukee. That's pretty good evidence that the Milwaukee does better at dust collection than the DeWalt. From 12:31 to 12:50 you can see the much bigger dust cloud generated by the DeWalt.
I am a trim carpenter and spent a good 6 months researching and testing the newest lineup of miter saws, to help me decide which one to upgrade to from my old 12” Dewalt. I narrowed it down to the
• Bosch Axial Glide
• Dewalt FlextVolt
• Milwaukee Fuel
• Makita 18V
I own a ton of Milwaukee and Dewalt tools, so choosing one of their saws made the most sense to me originally, but since I plan on keeping this saw primarily on my miter table in my workshop, it wasn’t a huge requirement to have it battery operated.
My requirements included...
• good dust management
• minimal blade deflection
• at least a 5.25” vertical cut capacity
• a front-to-back depth that would fit on my miter table up against the wall in my workshop.
In the end, I found that the Makita was the hands-down winner. Their Direct drive motor is unbelievably smooth and super powerful, the fixed rail system is awesome, keeping the saws depth at a fixed state, the dual port dust management is 2nd best in class only to Festool, and I go almost a week between charging the batteries. It also gives me the cutting capacities I need with only a 10” blade, which will save me big on the cost of blade replacements.
The only thing I wish it had was the shadow line, because I haven’t been a huge fan of lasers, but this laser it spot-on, and can be easily adjusted to be to the left or right of the blade kerf. Also wish the laser was trigger activated, and that the fence could slide. But other than those three cons, its the best miter saw I have ever used.
Thanks for the awesome feedback bro
im in the same boat. did you end up getting the 10" or the12". i want the 12" but the only con is the blade brake that takes 3 seconds to stop meanwhile the 10" is instant
I got the 10”. Couldn’t be happier with it
With the One Key System on Milwaukee can u slow RPM enuf to use it as an occasional chop saw?
I am a Milwaukee fan and all my tools are Milwaukee. I like the Milwaukee saw for all the same reasons that you mentioned, but also for another important one that you did not mention at the end (you mentioned it in the beginning), you get a 5 year warranty, which is absolutely great! Do not get me wrong, Dewalt builds great tools, but in this comparaison, my choice would be the Milwaukee!
When you slide out the dewalt corded 12” a little ways it’ll go through that 4x6, but the corded Milwaukee fails. But this you didn’t really attempt, it looked like,so I’m curious are both saws unable?
I think they are both top of the line tools. I have many Milwaukee tools and love the heck out of them. I’ve had great experience with all my Dewalt mitre saws. I picked Dewalt because of personal preference and dual power option. I did purchase an extra set of batteries to basically avoid corded power.
That being said, yes the goatee is flawless
Lmao, thanks for the awesome comment John 👊🤣
Both saws are nice. I bought the dewalt for the dual power. Loved it for deck building up until it got stolen. A buddy had the Milwaukee saw and he loved it for trim work. It all depends on the battery platform you have or want. I have flexvolt saws and makita 40v so I try to stay with dewalt and makita. Maybe in the future I'll add Milwaukee brand since dewalt warranty is now turned to garbage and they no longer make this miter saw.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw an adapter for Milwaukee to be corded. Either by them or a 3rd party. They already sell adapters to use batteries cross platform.
I hope so. I own a lot of Makita tools and just started to purchase some Milwaukee and bought 3 adaptors to use my Makita batteries on Milwaukee.
would be awesome if dewalt saw this video and fixed the dust collector issues with lack of collection and getting in the way of the angle guage.
and fixed the issue with the back plate getting in the way at high angle cuts. then it would be the ultimate saw.
Milwaukee but if Dewalt dust collection and rail were better placed that plug in option would changed my mind that is a really big plus.
Great review
Thanks PJ, really appreciate it buddy 👊
DeFault is a belt driven saw while Milwaukee is direct drive. Definitely a difference in time the saws get to top speed. Milwaukee for me and Makita was my first drill.
Great video. I bought the Dewalt only because I can plug it in and running all day or use it on the go with the two 60v batteries
The Dewalt us a beast!
Great video... for me, I have an old 12”, non-sliding Dewalt that has never let me down and its a beast. That being said, Milwaukee’ s dust collection, and sliding seems so much better, so I’ll vote for the Milwaukee as the better saw.
- I’ll just blow the rest of the saw dust in my neighbors yard 😂 Good review I’ll still roll with the Dewalt it was cutting a lot smoother to me
Best tool review page hands down
Thanks Craig, I really appreciate that bro
Dang the Milwaukee beast mode on dust collection
I have the Dewalt and can confirm the dust collection sucks mostly because the bag fills up so quickly so you have to constantly be emptying it to keep it working; and you can forget about hooking it up to a dust collector without modification as any suction closes the soft rubber dust shroud and doesn’t get much dust at all. I had to tape them open to keep them out of the way. Dewalt should have better dust collection. That said the dual power option is a must and the best feature of the saw. The ability to go off a cord or the convenience of batteries is great. On a good rolling stand the weight isn’t much of an issue and let’s face it weight is just a cost of doing business.
Can you make an updated video with Milwaukee vrs the new version of the flexvolt from dewalt???
I've got the 7 1/4 Milwaukee and I'm in the market for a bigger saw. My 7 1/4 Milwaukee isn't great. The thin blade deflects badly, the bed of the saw isn't flat and out of the box the mitre and bevel setting both needed adjustment. Maybe I was unlucky because it was an early model. Do I risk it with the 12" Milwaukee?
Same deal on mines thought it was just my saw😑
Thanks great video
This is really a tough decision for me I have both platforms. If I could get the base flex saw with just the AC adapter cord for $370 at Home Depot I'd be all over it, but they're out of stock constantly.
Dewalt Miter saw is the flagship in the miter saw market
Great vid brother , in your honest opinion.... approximately how much more power does the 12" Milwaukee have over the Milwaukee 10" ?
I like Milwaukee functions. All my cordless tools are DeWalt. I hope DeWalt will watch this video and improve those items mentioned. I love DeWalt and I want to continue using these tools.
MDF 'poops' was the main gamechanger... THE RED showed THE YELLOWS flaw👍
haha
i prefer the milwaukee, because it cuts deeper and it slides longer than the devalt. the overall design is like better. but on one thing i like the devalt more, because you can plug the saw in, but you also can use the batteries. but milwalkee wins that race, because it needs only one battery!
overall, both are great saws!!
btw you tried hard to make a fair test, and you did great!!!!
greetings
I love my old school DeWalt DW708. Dad’s had it for almost 20 years and it still cuts like new. With that said, I’m a huge Red fan/collector. I find it hard to believe that DeWalt produces a saw that doesn’t clear the fence at full bevel, but here we are! Red takes the W here
When it comes to which 12” saw to buy it comes down to one thing; can you plug it in
Fair enough bro. I think a lot of people will prefer this too
@@ToolReviewZone I have had my DeWalt flex volt since it came out. I have never plugged it in. I install cabinets. The key is to start the day fully charged.
I've read where the dewalt causes GFCI'S to trip when using the ac adapter. Besides that why get a battery powered saw if the ability to plug it in is a deciding factor? I have the 10" Milwaukee cordless and whole I acknowledge that it's not perfect because of the slight flexing in the upper assembly I'm not one to exert undue force on my saw so it really never has been a problem for me. I love the freedom and time savings that this saw affords me.
Jeff Powell I prefer to plug my big tools in but once in a while it would be great to have the battery option.
@tinker bee I switch my Batts regardless of charge level once a day at the start. Can't kill 2 12.0 in a day. Even if I did no big deal to switch Batts.
I think the Milwaukee won this tool dual even though I like the sexy flexy Milwaukee because of dust collection guard locks up so you can change blade smooth on slide dewalt wind in my eyes only for the dual power option Cord and cordless but have to say Milwaukee this time all the way
If you put a dewalt blade on the milwaukee saw will it cut narrower than the milwaukee blade does in the cuts shown
both are great but the Milwaukee thanks to the lighter wait seems like the better option when you move from jobsite to jobsite.
Both nice saws 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Metabo has had the dual power option for years and years now
DEWALT hands down, I’ve been using it since 2016. China finally caught up!! American all the way!
I love Milwaukee. Whenever I get a home wood shop or I encounter my first foray into needing my own miter saw, I’m getting the Milwaukee fuel miter saw.
For me the "battery only" is a dealbreaker on the milwaukee
Fair comment. Thanks bro👊
I'll stick with my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw. I'm super heavily invested in Milwaukee like 20 M18 tools and 11 M18 batteries and 2 M12 tools and 2 M12 batteries. When batteries last a full day of cutting plugging in isn't really a problem and when you have 3 - 12amp batteries needing to plug in isn't really an issue either. But either way try to run a 12.0amp battery dead in a normal workday in fact I bet you'll go thru multiple normal workdays before running 12.0amp battery dead, I think you'll only run it dead in a day is if you just sit there and do nothing but make cuts all day. Same with my Milwaukee 8-1/2" M18 FUEL ONE-KEY Table Saw, I've never run a 12.0amp battery dead in a normal work day before. In fact I've shared a 12.0amp battery between my Milwaukee 10" miter saw and 8-1/2" table saw on a normal workday and had plenty of battery left at the end of the day. I've never run a 12.0amp battery dead in my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw or my 8-1/2" table saw in a single day before. But I've never spent a day doing nothing but cutting either. I think you'd find the same would apply to the DeWalt. So I wouldn't need to worry to much about having to plug in, that said go with the saw of the line your already invested in.
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Dewalt flexvolt is a game changer and now their power stack batteries also! Dewalt is the brand for me. Nothing taking anything away from milwaukee, infact if it wasnt for flexvolt i would go with milwaukee
I have the DeWalt but use a 80T Diablo blade … Great saw but if Milwaukee wants to send me a saw to test out we’ll get to sending it me … great video I like both brands and I think you can go wrong with either one just use a Diablo blade
They are both great saws, but for me, the Milwaukee comes out on top! Perhaps that at the next revision, the Dewalt will come on top! Competition will benefit the customers. What would be a deal breaker for me is, power, dust collection, ease of use and the warranty!
The blade break on the Dewalt has some kick to it. Did you notice that? Where as the Milwaukee blade break doesn’t throw the handle out of you hand. Try holding the saws mid plunge and let us know if this is accurate observation? I don’t know if the Dewalt has a soft start but I know the Milwaukee does. I think the soft start and soft stop have me picking Milwaukee. It’s seems to me you run less risk of damaging your fine cuts.
Great eye bro. Yeah, you are correct that the Dewalt does jump a bit. The Milwaukee does not
Boy, two great saws without question. Either one would be a great addition to anyone’s collection. A real toss up though. Dust collection and single battery go to Milwaukee. Dual power source and price to Dewalt. Ultimately, it’s not the tool that makes the carpenter. Carpenters of yesterday were better than today, and they had a handsaw and shooting board.
I ran both saws this week cutting 1 inch thick oak treads and Milwaukee saw really struggled while Flexvolt cut thru the wood like a hot knife thru butter. Milwaukee saw is a better saw in every other category tho, but it is a little bit underpowered. It struggles cutting solid woods thicker than 3/4 inch.
What battery were you using on the Milwaukee?
@@rowankeltizar5961 I used 12.0 Ah batteries.
Lets' see, maybe the Milwaukee battery and a powered Dewalt. I have had a 12"" Dewalt for ages but I like the Milwaukee battery platform. I am going cordless with all of my tools but I really do like the Dewalt as a durable and reliable workhorse. I like both but I would probably go with the Milwaukee cordless for the deeper cut.
Thanks for your video. Anyone can read the specs about weight, DoC, power etc. It would be nice to learn how accurate the saws are, or if theres any deflection in the head or rails when cutting. At the end of the day what's important to wood workers is accuracy.
I’m a DeWalt fan since way back but Milwaukee is really hard to ignore these days.
Quick mention. Another trimwork UA-camr mentioned that the power adapter for the Dewalt burned up the Saw's motor...twice. paid for the Repair and was told by Dewalt not to use the power adapter use batteries only.
Nice review. One observation on your dust collection. It looked like you had an additional 50% dust collected in the bag in the Milwaukee. However, the blade looked to be 50% thicker. I’d like to see this comparison with the same blade on both tools.
Since most of the uses of a miter saw are finishing, the plug is the way to go, Dewalt. But for clean up and just ease of use I really the Milwaukee. Tough call, but I'm just a weekend warrior, so It would have to be Dewalt. I'll just get bigger biceps!