@@framergod69 I have a Ridgid 18-Volt Brushless 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw that I used to use all the time before I got my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw. I know they discontinued the 7-1/4" cordless Ridgid miter saw and honestly I think it was a saw they used for R&D to research what worked and didn't work and they should change and keep the same when they went to make the Milwaukee M18 FUEL 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw, which is the reason that the 7-1/4" Ridgid wasn't around long and why they have been discontinued. Originally they sold for $399 when they came out but I got mine for just $150 and I got a second 5.0amp battery free as well because I got mine when they were discontinuing them.
I know this is an old review just revisiting it one more time before I make my purchase this week. This should be an easy decision if they would’ve carried over the futures don’t understand that at all. But then I have to go with the 10. I had the DeWalt 15 amp corded sliding 12 inch then the Matalo HPT 10 inch sliding with upfront controls and I don’t want to go back to giving my saw a reach around all day after using upfront controls on the Mutombo it’s hard to go back. Switched to Milwaukee M 18 platform about a year ago love them going with the 10. Thanks for the help.
I’ve got the 10” and it was definitely a game changer when we bought it. I think I feel the opposite to you about their use cases though. I think the 10” is great for rough carpentry/framing but not ideal for trim even though it’s the saw I have so it’s what I use for everything. There’s just a bit too much slop in the 10”. But it’s perfect for cutting your window and door packages, even great for running square base. I just think the 12” would be better for trim with its larger cut capacity. The biggest issue with the 10” is how they did the rails, it seems to be fixed on the 12”. I only cut a 4x6 on the 10” once just to see if it could. It did great but when the material gets past a 4x4 it’s just easier to take a saw to the material rather than bring the material to the saw. Maybe if I was chopping it up. 🤷🏻♂️. Plus the power on the 12” looks crazy. Also that slide lock broke the first day on that 10”, so did the plastic piece inside the dust bag.
I've had the corded 12" milwaukee since they ce out years ago. It's been a great saw! It has the same bevel mechanism as the ten inch cordless with the capacity of the twelve. It is heavy but it carries very easily. It s just great ergonomics for carrying. A remodeler and don't even have a shop. So it gets taken out of the truck put into the truck and every day. It's rugged and has only needed to be tuned up a few times in all of the years of faithful service. Highly recommended! Even though it has that cord thing!
Great review! I've had the 10" since it was introduced, and it has been awesome for what I need. I originally purchased it because I was renovating my cottage up north (in the middle of the woods). I needed the portability and eliminate the hassle of extension cords outside. I have hauled it back and forth from my cottage to my house in the city a dozen times. I feel like I am constantly moving it.....the minor difference in weight is still appreciated. For me it comes down to portability, but it is also because I already owned a Bosch 12" GCM12SD (the one with the articulating arm). If I only had 1 saw, I would purchase the 12", but in my case the portability is the feature that tips the scales. My 12" Bosch is a beast to carry around, so it just says on the bench in the shop, and I haul my 10" Milwaukee wherever I need it outside. Right now I'm using the Milwaukee with a diamond blade to cut concrete facia for my fireplace. It works great! Because I am dry cutting, I want it outside for the dust.....again....portability! My initial motive to watch your review was because I was toying with the idea of getting the new 12" Milwaukee and giving my existing saw to my son.....but you've actually created a new level of appreciation for the saw that I have ;) I have actually cut 8"x8" hand hewn beams with my 10" Milwaukee mitre saw......yeah, it took a a couple passes (i.e. rotations), but it worked ;)
I have had the 10 inch saw for about 6 months now and its done great I use it almost every day I have 2 8.0, a 9.0 and a 5.0 batteries and I only have to charge them once a week use my drill, miter saw, skillsaw, Sawzall, buzz saw, grinder all the time I've been impressed with every tool I have from Milwaukee
I bought the 10" about the same time. I've only got 5Ah batteries atm. I find it gets bogged down a bit. Have you tried all your batteries on yours? Do you notice any difference? I think I'll just buy a 9Ah or 12Ah high output battery and see how it goes.
Thank you, I was hoping to find a no frills video detailing the difference. If i decide to get one (which is likely) I’d go with the 10in, that ease of use appeals to me.
Wish all the stationary style tools had a option to plug in a cord just in case your out of battery or your doing a stationary job at home and not on the go. I believe the table saw has this option..?
FYI, Linear speed at the saw blades where they make contact with the wood is calculated by V(linear)= RPM* Radius. Therefore the 10" blade spinning at 4000 RPM will have a linear velocity of 20,000 in/min and the 12" blade spinning at 3500 RPM will have a linear velocity of 21,000 in/min. So in actuality where the blade meets the wood, the 12" is moving faster. You should not be able to notice a difference in blade speed since that is about a 5% difference.
I bought the 10 inch and regret not purchasing the 12 inch. The saw stopped several times cutting the 2" X 8". I am definitely going to go to home depot and return the 10 inch for a 12 inch.
Both saws look great, and your description analyzes that. However, I am looking for portability that's light and for small trim, flooring work, I think I'd go with the 10" and keep using my corded 12" for other heavier carpentry use.
I have the 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw which I use most often cuz it's the nicest but I also have the 18-Volt Ridgid Brushless 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw and it's great for small work and trim work and being able to share circ saw blades with it is nice too.
Nice to see Milwaukee do the 12" .looks a beast !!!. I have the 10" a little heavy but I'm looking to get the 7,1/4" as it's all I need on a daily basis
I have a 18-Volt Ridgid 7-1/4" Brushless Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw, but I use my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw more often cuz it's nicer.
I have the 10", the one thing I don't like is the bevel adjustment with the detents. There is no fine adjustment for the angles, you can override the detents by pulling up on the lever, but it feels awkward and is hard to lock it at exact angles that are not the detents because you can't let go of the lever while you are setting the angle. It has a little less power than I expected, but it is only 18 volts. So far it has done what I need it to do. It is relatively light, has good run time, and makes accurate miter cuts. I like the fence and the cut line light. I bought it for jobs with no electricity. I have been a trim contractor for 30 years. I went with the 10" because it is smaller and lighter, and still has the cutting capacity I need, but I wish it had the bevel adjustment like the 12"
I work at a company that plugs *everything* in. I have all cordless including guns. This 10” is so practical. Chasing cords is a deterrent. It’s so easy for repetitive consistent cuts.
I own the 10” and love it! I can see why some folks would prefer the 12”, especially when cutting larger crown molding. Anything like 2X4’s and 4X4’s don’t see many using miter saws for that but I think each saw wins for what each size saw is made for.
I’m loving the vids on these saws. I’m looking at buying one of the 12” saws now after watching. My main uses are framing and fix out but, being in Australia, we use a lot of external hardwood, predominantly iron bark, spotted gum and tallow wood. All of which are rated as some of the toughest construction timbers in our country and I feel the extra power of the 12” will be needed
Hey I just ordered the 12 for $200 more than the 10.i have the 7 1/4 but need larger for an onsite saw. I'm replacing my dewalt 12". I'm wondering if I made the right decision? I like the 10" size and cheaper blade. But thought I'd miss the capacity of the 12". Have you used both, is the 10 to flawed? Have you used both? Thank you, possible buyers remorse here
I just bought the 10" for finish carpentry. Works pretty good. Trimmed out a house all day long and my hd12 battery was only 1/2 down. NOW for the problem I have. Please let me know if you have this issue too. When dropping the miter saw blade to a 45 degree angle. The blade protector binds on the bed when pulling the blade straight downwards, like it doesn't get out of the way fast enough, To help this i have to pull the blade all the way forward and push backwards to help the guard rotate upwards like its suppose to. Its a real pain in the ass when slicing at a 45 degree angle and the guard is stopping the blade from finishing the cut.
Also, a lock detent to keep the blade forward for storing would be awesome. I've got mine on the ridgid wheeld stand. Not a fan of having to use the rail stop turn knob to hold the saw. I turn it to the right full lock and forward then collapse the stand. It's the smallest footprint for storing. But I can't stand to wrench that stop down.
I use my 12" DeWalt dual bevel miter saw for larger cuts, I've been looking and researching that 10" Milwaukee miter saw for the smaller cuts as I've mentioned.
@@Unchristian I've heard the opposite of that, I've heard the 12" has to much flex in the rails and the 10" is better and it only got a bad rap because it's different and that freaks people out. If you look on the Home Depot site the 10" has better reviews than the 12" not by a lot but still. I actually have the 10" and it works great. I haven't have any issues with it and I get square cuts everytime. Also I like the bevel adjustment, it makes it really easy to adjust the bevel on it. My only complaint is the dust collection on it isn't very good.
I have the Ryobi 10 inch dual bevel sliding brushless 36v cordless saw and I love it. I built a small cart that the miter stand sits in and I just wheel it around every where. I got it tool only for $249. Already had plenty of batteries. My cuts are a perfect 90 degrees. And it’s only 34 pounds. Haven’t tried this saw but would love to see how they compare.
Thanks for the review. Been trying to make up what lil mind I have between these 2. I work as a handyman and I have the Bosch 10' glider and its great BUT its so heavy and I have to rely on 110. Ive done rough frame to crown molding with it. I want to be able to do the same with battery power. Seeing your review has me hoping that the saws will either go on sale or add goodies to sweeten the pot.
I have a 10" corded Milwaukee that I've used for several years and I love it. I'll be buying the new 12" soon and I'm sure it's going to be just as awesome!
I'm a bit late to this party but i just got the 12 and after a week of heavy use in production trim, I'm not all that impressed. The negatives outweigh the couple things i like about it. Great dust collection, easy miter movement (my dewalt was super stiff) and a bright light are nice. It's also quite lightweight. But this "feature" that kills the power after repetitive cuts is borderline deal breaker. The saw is not cut out for production trim. Mine sounds pretty rough, high pitch whine with random grinding sounds. It almost sounds different every time it runs. My confidence is not high in this expensive saw.
12” all day long . If you work in construction there will always be a day you wish you had the extra cut depth. We have the large Bosch at work and it is amazing. But this Milwaukee could be for me.
I have the 12" DeWalt corded. Picked it up in like new condition from a pawn shop for about 250$. Can't say the 12" impresses me power wise lol However the power and the portability (plus I fell in love with the slide of the 10") and the features of that 10" really does it for me. Going to pick one up on sale today ;)
I have the 10” and one major complain I have is the bevel gauge is horrible! Way to small of lines and to big of a guide pointer to be accurate. Also it’s not the most stable rail system that it runs on. With minor pressure it’s very easy to get a cut thats not uniform. I will say I’ve been cutting 7” baseboard in natural hard maple and once I got used to it I have been able to get great cuts. Works best to trim after the initial cut. Great review!
Not a fan of 10 inch saws. I own two and mostly retired them after I bought a 12. I only bring the Makita to secondary jobs when I am running a second gig so I don't have to set up two saws every day. Even then, if one is just a trim job I bring the Milwaukee 7 inch slider. All my saws are on wheeled carts, so weight isn't a factor. The 12 inch saws just give you that extra cutting ability that the 10 leaves you wanting all too often.
Interesting review, From other reviewers and users I talked to the 10 needs revamping. They told me to stay away and get the 7 1/4. Wait for the 12. I have the 71/4 and love it. I have a Dewalt 12 inch but its long in the tooth and needs replacing.
I have the Ridgid 18-Volt 7-1/4" Brushless Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw and i really like it but I prefer to use my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw.
We are getting into cabinet installs and using one for filler pieces, toe kicks and crown, I think the 10" will be all we need according to your review
Hi TRZ, I do like the milwaukee 12" miter saw a little better. The bevel handle doesn't bother me. The weight seems to be the same as a corded but not by much. I wish it was lighter. The Milwaukee 10" miter saw is also nice but i don't like the sliding bars on the bottom. I hope milwaukee can redesign this model to match the (7 1/4 & 12") and extra power. Thanks for the video.
@@ToolReviewZone Yes, the 7 1/4" is nice but limited. Great for small trim work. If milwaukee can redesign the 10" i would get that one. Plus the 7 1/4 is very pricey.
I kinda like the design of the 12 inch and 7 1/4, so I wish milwaukee made a 10 inch version of that design. however. I have the 10 inch and it's the perfect blade size. 7 1/4 too small and 12 too big. Also, trying to keep the tools all m18 so I use same battery all around. I don't see myself using a miter to cut 4x6 or even 4x4. that's what I use my circular saw for. even though the 10 inch has a weird design, I'm not buying it for the looks. If it provides convenience and effectiveness, then I'll take it. Will just be waiting for a 10 inch miter with the better design. not a huge deal breaker. I think it's milwaukee's first cordless miter saw.
I’ve got the ten and I like it a lot. It’s a little sloppy on mitre cuts for hardwood I find. No matter how carefully I dial it in it just won’t cut perfect 45s. Mdf has enough to play to fudge it but not real hardwood.
@@Irojas1995 I only use Diablo blades. I’ve got Dewalt chop saws that cut perfect. Don’t touch them. Right out of the box perfect. Now they are over a decade old and still cut true. The Milwaukee always cuts a little odd. Good blade. Time dialing it in. Still the mitre is off a tiny bit.
See this is where I get stuck cause I always buy more then I need. This case I'm thinking the 12" better to have more then not enough in an ideal world I'd get all there sizes but not at this cost. This video helped me im going a Full cordless and it hasn't been cheap so far . I literally will have all that milwaukee offers
I have the old 12" corded Milwaukee dual bevel saw, love just about everything except no positive stops for the bevel cuts. The tilt mechanism is the same as the 20' cordless and I hate setting the saw back to 90/0. For now in my dwindling days of full time remodeling, I'll stick with my 3 corded Milwaukee miter saws and my Ridgid Portable corded table saw. I'm heavily invested in Milwaukee Fuel cordless tools but just cannot see investing in a cordless miter/table saw when I can and am able to just grab a 25' extension cord. I do enjoy these videos and comparisons.
Nice comparison looks like I will be picking up the the m18 12 inch suits me better I think the 10 inch wins for adjustability but the 13 inch wins the tool fuel because of everything else
I'd like a 10 that isn't a slider. I have the DeWalt flex slider and the DeWalt flex non slider. Lately I've been getting into the lightest smallest tool that gets the job done is what I use and I think a 10 would get it done just don't want a slider.
After owning the 10" for a year. I am getting increasingly frustrated with the linear bearings on the rails. Wood, not bad. But start cutting azec....shiiiit. azec powder completely gums up the bearings. I'm having to disassemble the saw and spend 45min blowing out the bearings and luring them. I've found its best to keep them dry. So I clean with wd40 and air compressor. Then use brake clean to remove and oils. When it's sliding fresh it's a great saw. Next round of cleaning gonna install those red and green battery terminal felts....hopefully it cuts down on cleaning
The 10 inch does it for me I don’t necessarily need it for a lot of larger cuts so I am going of your directions and having a bigger saw is sore disgusting I have a Makita 12 inch and I only use it seven times in the last 10 years I just went ahead and bought a small Asa for not having all that headache of moving it around
I prefer a 10 inch miter saw, there just easier to use, and both of these Milwaukee saws have an old design on the rails, look at other saws and they have the rails fixed and the saw moves on the rails .
@@ToolReviewZone awesome! Thanks for the reply, means a lot. This saw is on order! I also bought a Klein digital angle tool to make sure everything is calibrated. I've had issues with the 7 1/4in saw. The bevel 0deg stop isn't actually zero, so I've had to set it just to the left of the stop. Do you know which bolt/setting is the adjustment lock for the bevel stop on either saw? I realized that a lot of the negative reviews on this saw were for the 10in. Home Depot sometimes overlaps their reviews for things. Main thing was accuracy. Same complaint I have with the 7 1/4.
Yo TRZ! I'm not in the trades so I think that me being a dyi/homesteader wanna be, the 12 is more practical due to its versatility. Great vid brother! Where's that damn mitre accessory vid?????!!!!!!!! Lol!
Haha, I was hoping it would be here this weekend, but they left me hanging bro! Hopefully early this wee. Hope it works like its supposed to cause it looks freaking awesome!!!!
I have had the 10in for a year now and in my opinion is way better than the 12in looks and has the same setup as dewalt 12in chop saw I hate he knob on the back always a pain!
You seem to very favorable towards the 10" ahaha. I think the 12" and 7 1/4 design is superior to the 10". The dust collection for the 10 is absolutely horrendous. Definitely the worst attempt at dust control ive seen on a mitre saw.
I bought the 10" about 5 years ago and its my biggest regret tool wise. I think if i were a framer, I would feel differently but as a finish carpenter this saw is just not up to snuff. The biggest issue is with the paddle bevel, it NEVER zeros properlwhich means every single time I change the bevel i have to recalibrate it back to zero with either my square or my digital angle guage. Also the dust collection on the 10" is basically non existent which isnt a huge problem for me but a concern for some ppl for sure. The last major issue is the slide lock "feature" which has got to be the absolute dumbest thing I've ever seen designed into a tool. Its in a spot where youre constantly bumping it on so you line up your cut only to find out you cant slide the freaking thing! Eventually i just put a screw through it lol. Power wise the saw is great but i wish they would have an adapter to run off AC if you desired like dewalt does.
I bought the 10 3 years ago. I am a finish carpenter also. There is too much play the way the rails are set up on the bottom instead of the top and the paddle on mine has stopped holding a bevel any where but 22.5 and 45 . Great for rough stuff though!
I've watched this review before purchasing Milwaukee 10" M18 miter saw over 3 month ago, but kept having very poor quality cuts.. After watching some UA-cam videos on adjustment, I've realized that my turn table is 3mm (!!!) lower than the side wings, and side wings are also not flat. Even 0.1mm is still a lot. I can't imagine sanding off 3mm of steal to level it.. Contacted Milwaukee tech support, and they sent me a picture of the same model with the same issue, telling me that it's normal in miter saws. I'm now out of Home Depot 90days returning period, so returning might be an issue now, so if you are looking for miter saws, my recommendation is stay away form Milwaukee, get a quality Dewalt instead.
Which Milwaukee Saw do you like best?
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the 7 1/4" have not used my corded saw since
@@framergod69 I have a Ridgid 18-Volt Brushless 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw that I used to use all the time before I got my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw. I know they discontinued the 7-1/4" cordless Ridgid miter saw and honestly I think it was a saw they used for R&D to research what worked and didn't work and they should change and keep the same when they went to make the Milwaukee M18 FUEL 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw, which is the reason that the 7-1/4" Ridgid wasn't around long and why they have been discontinued. Originally they sold for $399 when they came out but I got mine for just $150 and I got a second 5.0amp battery free as well because I got mine when they were discontinuing them.
I like my tools like my guns...bigger is better!
I know this is an old review just revisiting it one more time before I make my purchase this week. This should be an easy decision if they would’ve carried over the futures don’t understand that at all. But then I have to go with the 10. I had the DeWalt 15 amp corded sliding 12 inch then the Matalo HPT 10 inch sliding with upfront controls and I don’t want to go back to giving my saw a reach around all day after using upfront controls on the Mutombo it’s hard to go back. Switched to Milwaukee M 18 platform about a year ago love them going with the 10. Thanks for the help.
I do like a 10” miter saw but, I gotta go 12” on this one!
VCG just has to compensate for his other shortcomings 😉
I got the 12" combo with the 12ah battery and got the stand for it too. I’d rather have the 12" and not need it than the 10" and need a 12".
I’ve got the 10” and it was definitely a game changer when we bought it. I think I feel the opposite to you about their use cases though. I think the 10” is great for rough carpentry/framing but not ideal for trim even though it’s the saw I have so it’s what I use for everything. There’s just a bit too much slop in the 10”. But it’s perfect for cutting your window and door packages, even great for running square base. I just think the 12” would be better for trim with its larger cut capacity. The biggest issue with the 10” is how they did the rails, it seems to be fixed on the 12”. I only cut a 4x6 on the 10” once just to see if it could. It did great but when the material gets past a 4x4 it’s just easier to take a saw to the material rather than bring the material to the saw. Maybe if I was chopping it up. 🤷🏻♂️. Plus the power on the 12” looks crazy. Also that slide lock broke the first day on that 10”, so did the plastic piece inside the dust bag.
thank you for you feedback!
I've had the corded 12" milwaukee since they ce out years ago. It's been a great saw! It has the same bevel mechanism as the ten inch cordless with the capacity of the twelve. It is heavy but it carries very easily. It s just great ergonomics for carrying.
A remodeler and don't even have a shop. So it gets taken out of the truck put into the truck and every day. It's rugged and has only needed to be tuned up a few times in all of the years of faithful service.
Highly recommended! Even though it has that cord thing!
Great review! I've had the 10" since it was introduced, and it has been awesome for what I need. I originally purchased it because I was renovating my cottage up north (in the middle of the woods). I needed the portability and eliminate the hassle of extension cords outside. I have hauled it back and forth from my cottage to my house in the city a dozen times. I feel like I am constantly moving it.....the minor difference in weight is still appreciated.
For me it comes down to portability, but it is also because I already owned a Bosch 12" GCM12SD (the one with the articulating arm).
If I only had 1 saw, I would purchase the 12", but in my case the portability is the feature that tips the scales. My 12" Bosch is a beast to carry around, so it just says on the bench in the shop, and I haul my 10" Milwaukee wherever I need it outside.
Right now I'm using the Milwaukee with a diamond blade to cut concrete facia for my fireplace. It works great! Because I am dry cutting, I want it outside for the dust.....again....portability!
My initial motive to watch your review was because I was toying with the idea of getting the new 12" Milwaukee and giving my existing saw to my son.....but you've actually created a new level of appreciation for the saw that I have ;)
I have actually cut 8"x8" hand hewn beams with my 10" Milwaukee mitre saw......yeah, it took a a couple passes (i.e. rotations), but it worked ;)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with the 10 inch saw, I have been thinking about getting one. Are we related?
please let me buy it from u
I have had the 10 inch saw for about 6 months now and its done great I use it almost every day I have 2 8.0, a 9.0 and a 5.0 batteries and I only have to charge them once a week use my drill, miter saw, skillsaw, Sawzall, buzz saw, grinder all the time I've been impressed with every tool I have from Milwaukee
I bought the 10" about the same time. I've only got 5Ah batteries atm. I find it gets bogged down a bit. Have you tried all your batteries on yours? Do you notice any difference? I think I'll just buy a 9Ah or 12Ah high output battery and see how it goes.
Thank you, I was hoping to find a no frills video detailing the difference.
If i decide to get one (which is likely) I’d go with the 10in, that ease of use appeals to me.
Wish all the stationary style tools had a option to plug in a cord just in case your out of battery or your doing a stationary job at home and not on the go. I believe the table saw has this option..?
FYI, Linear speed at the saw blades where they make contact with the wood is calculated by V(linear)= RPM* Radius. Therefore the 10" blade spinning at 4000 RPM will have a linear velocity of 20,000 in/min and the 12" blade spinning at 3500 RPM will have a linear velocity of 21,000 in/min. So in actuality where the blade meets the wood, the 12" is moving faster. You should not be able to notice a difference in blade speed since that is about a 5% difference.
I bought the 10 inch and regret not purchasing the 12 inch. The saw stopped several times cutting the 2" X 8". I am definitely going to go to home depot and return the 10 inch for a 12 inch.
Get a blade with less teeth in it Freud is my fav. Made the saw 10 times better as it lacks power and 12" just arrived today.
Both saws look great, and your description analyzes that. However, I am looking for portability that's light and for small trim, flooring work, I think I'd go with the 10" and keep using my corded 12" for other heavier carpentry use.
I think Milwaukee needs to try and make an up front control version of their miter saws.
I got the 12 inch and it’s a beast. Really like it. For interior stuff I would recommend the 7 1/4 inch before the ten
I really wanted to try the 7 1/4", but never had the chance. Would love that for small jobs bro👊
@@ToolReviewZone i have the 7 1/4". it's a beast. i also have the 12" dewalt flexvolt. that's another beast
I have the 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw which I use most often cuz it's the nicest but I also have the 18-Volt Ridgid Brushless 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw and it's great for small work and trim work and being able to share circ saw blades with it is nice too.
Nice to see Milwaukee do the 12" .looks a beast !!!.
I have the 10" a little heavy but I'm looking to get the 7,1/4" as it's all I need on a daily basis
I have a 18-Volt Ridgid 7-1/4" Brushless Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw, but I use my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw more often cuz it's nicer.
Judging by your fine comparison video, I believe I will wait for the Gen 2 of the 12in before purchasing. Greg
I have the 10", the one thing I don't like is the bevel adjustment with the detents. There is no fine adjustment for the angles, you can override the detents by pulling up on the lever, but it feels awkward and is hard to lock it at exact angles that are not the detents because you can't let go of the lever while you are setting the angle. It has a little less power than I expected, but it is only 18 volts. So far it has done what I need it to do. It is relatively light, has good run time, and makes accurate miter cuts. I like the fence and the cut line light. I bought it for jobs with no electricity. I have been a trim contractor for 30 years. I went with the 10" because it is smaller and lighter, and still has the cutting capacity I need, but I wish it had the bevel adjustment like the 12"
I work at a company that plugs *everything* in. I have all cordless including guns. This 10” is so practical. Chasing cords is a deterrent. It’s so easy for repetitive consistent cuts.
I own the 10” and love it!
I can see why some folks would prefer the 12”, especially when cutting larger crown molding. Anything like 2X4’s and 4X4’s don’t see many using miter saws for that but I think each saw wins for what each size saw is made for.
Great comment Treeboss. Definitely depends on what your using the saw for bro👊
I think having a combo blade on the 12" vs finish on the 10" affects the cuts. May be why the 10" strains more.
Yeah probably played a role for sure in the video, but it does it with the Diablo framing blades too
Did you notice when the MDF was cut that the curve width on the 12-inch was actually larger than on the 10 -inch...?
I’m loving the vids on these saws. I’m looking at buying one of the 12” saws now after watching. My main uses are framing and fix out but, being in Australia, we use a lot of external hardwood, predominantly iron bark, spotted gum and tallow wood. All of which are rated as some of the toughest construction timbers in our country and I feel the extra power of the 12” will be needed
Just buy the 12" the 10" is awkward. If you need portablitily get eh 7-1/4" which is identical in design to the 12"
Hey I just ordered the 12 for $200 more than the 10.i have the 7 1/4 but need larger for an onsite saw. I'm replacing my dewalt 12". I'm wondering if I made the right decision? I like the 10" size and cheaper blade. But thought I'd miss the capacity of the 12". Have you used both, is the 10 to flawed? Have you used both? Thank you, possible buyers remorse here
I just bought the 10" for finish carpentry. Works pretty good. Trimmed out a house all day long and my hd12 battery was only 1/2 down. NOW for the problem I have. Please let me know if you have this issue too. When dropping the miter saw blade to a 45 degree angle. The blade protector binds on the bed when pulling the blade straight downwards, like it doesn't get out of the way fast enough, To help this i have to pull the blade all the way forward and push backwards to help the guard rotate upwards like its suppose to. Its a real pain in the ass when slicing at a 45 degree angle and the guard is stopping the blade from finishing the cut.
Also, a lock detent to keep the blade forward for storing would be awesome. I've got mine on the ridgid wheeld stand. Not a fan of having to use the rail stop turn knob to hold the saw. I turn it to the right full lock and forward then collapse the stand. It's the smallest footprint for storing. But I can't stand to wrench that stop down.
I’ve had my Milwaukee 12” miter for year and love the use of it. Go big or go home 🤙🏾
I'm gonna buy the 12" soon, I'm not a carpenter, though I do all of my carpentry work around my house.
Let me know how you like it Dale👊
I recently bought the 10 inch … man that thing is a BEAST!
I'd say the 10" would be more useful for interior trim, moulding, flooring and cabinets.
Yeah absolutely Jason👊👊👊👊
I use my 12" DeWalt dual bevel miter saw for larger cuts, I've been looking and researching that 10" Milwaukee miter saw for the smaller cuts as I've mentioned.
I think I’ve heard from multiple sources that there is too much play in the 10” to be a trim saw... apparently it was fixed with the 12”
@@Unchristian I've heard the opposite of that, I've heard the 12" has to much flex in the rails and the 10" is better and it only got a bad rap because it's different and that freaks people out. If you look on the Home Depot site the 10" has better reviews than the 12" not by a lot but still. I actually have the 10" and it works great. I haven't have any issues with it and I get square cuts everytime. Also I like the bevel adjustment, it makes it really easy to adjust the bevel on it. My only complaint is the dust collection on it isn't very good.
@@Unchristian you are absolutely right the 10’’ are garbage, got makita 40v 12 inch and it’s on another level accuracy and durability
I have the Ryobi 10 inch dual bevel sliding brushless 36v cordless saw and I love it. I built a small cart that the miter stand sits in and I just wheel it around every where. I got it tool only for $249. Already had plenty of batteries. My cuts are a perfect 90 degrees. And it’s only 34 pounds. Haven’t tried this saw but would love to see how they compare.
Thanks for the review. Been trying to make up what lil mind I have between these 2. I work as a handyman and I have the Bosch 10' glider and its great BUT its so heavy and I have to rely on 110. Ive done rough frame to crown molding with it. I want to be able to do the same with battery power. Seeing your review has me hoping that the saws will either go on sale or add goodies to sweeten the pot.
I actually bought thev10" for $150 at the Deeps. May have been a glitch, but a lot of people got them at that price.
I have a 10" corded Milwaukee that I've used for several years and I love it. I'll be buying the new 12" soon and I'm sure it's going to be just as awesome!
It's definitely a great saw
Bought the 10 inch second hand for 550 Canadian, and it included a 12ah battery. Gotta say..... It's a beast.
I'm a bit late to this party but i just got the 12 and after a week of heavy use in production trim, I'm not all that impressed. The negatives outweigh the couple things i like about it. Great dust collection, easy miter movement (my dewalt was super stiff) and a bright light are nice. It's also quite lightweight. But this "feature" that kills the power after repetitive cuts is borderline deal breaker. The saw is not cut out for production trim. Mine sounds pretty rough, high pitch whine with random grinding sounds. It almost sounds different every time it runs. My confidence is not high in this expensive saw.
Good to know sir
@@KMD2020 the saw ended up frying out 2 weeks later and was sent back. The detents also had stopped working. It was terrible.
Well in my case that only use it ones or twise a week i pick the 10" miter saw, it runs good have some power for what i do
Tha is for the feedback Omar!!!
Thats my pick the 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw
I love both saws I am buying both saws I am not carpenter I am a tool lover and a DIYer god bless from the kid big smitty Detroit Michigan USA
12” all day long . If you work in construction there will always be a day you wish you had the extra cut depth. We have the large Bosch at work and it is amazing. But this Milwaukee could be for me.
I have the 12" DeWalt corded. Picked it up in like new condition from a pawn shop for about 250$. Can't say the 12" impresses me power wise lol However the power and the portability (plus I fell in love with the slide of the 10") and the features of that 10" really does it for me. Going to pick one up on sale today ;)
As a registered handyman a 10 inch miter that cuts to this capacity is by far enough in my lowly opinion.
I have the 10” and one major complain I have is the bevel gauge is horrible! Way to small of lines and to big of a guide pointer to be accurate. Also it’s not the most stable rail system that it runs on. With minor pressure it’s very easy to get a cut thats not uniform. I will say I’ve been cutting 7” baseboard in natural hard maple and once I got used to it I have been able to get great cuts. Works best to trim after the initial cut. Great review!
Not a fan of 10 inch saws. I own two and mostly retired them after I bought a 12. I only bring the Makita to secondary jobs when I am running a second gig so I don't have to set up two saws every day. Even then, if one is just a trim job I bring the Milwaukee 7 inch slider. All my saws are on wheeled carts, so weight isn't a factor. The 12 inch saws just give you that extra cutting ability that the 10 leaves you wanting all too often.
Interesting review, From other reviewers and users I talked to the 10 needs revamping. They told me to stay away and get the 7 1/4. Wait for the 12. I have the 71/4 and love it. I have a Dewalt 12 inch but its long in the tooth and needs replacing.
I think the 10" is just underpowered. I love the saw, but that's one of the issues I have with it. I hear the 7 1/4 is awesome
I’ve got the 7 1/4in works awesome and very lightweight and portable
Yeah Pete, I love how light the 7 1/4 saws are. I don't have the Milwaukee, but other brands and love them👊
I have the Ridgid 18-Volt 7-1/4" Brushless Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw and i really like it but I prefer to use my 10" Milwaukee M18 FUEL dual bevel sliding miter saw.
Man, I almost went and bought the 10. Think I'm gonna get the 12. That power overtakes the convenience
We are getting into cabinet installs and using one for filler pieces, toe kicks and crown, I think the 10" will be all we need according to your review
I work on casket and do I bit of wide crown molding so I would buy the 12 inch
Thanks for the feedback Marvin!!!
Hi TRZ,
I do like the milwaukee 12" miter saw a little better. The bevel handle doesn't bother me. The weight seems to be the same as a corded but not by much. I wish it was lighter.
The Milwaukee 10" miter saw is also nice but i don't like the sliding bars on the bottom. I hope milwaukee can redesign this model to match the (7 1/4 & 12") and extra power.
Thanks for the video.
Man Michael, I really need to get my hands on thatv7 1/4" saw bro!
@@ToolReviewZone
Yes, the 7 1/4" is nice but limited. Great for small trim work.
If milwaukee can redesign the 10" i would get that one. Plus the 7 1/4 is very pricey.
10 unless you have a constant need for the 12 inch capacity, i can think of no good reason to go 12.
Thanks for another informative video.
I kinda like the design of the 12 inch and 7 1/4, so I wish milwaukee made a 10 inch version of that design. however. I have the 10 inch and it's the perfect blade size. 7 1/4 too small and 12 too big. Also, trying to keep the tools all m18 so I use same battery all around. I don't see myself using a miter to cut 4x6 or even 4x4. that's what I use my circular saw for. even though the 10 inch has a weird design, I'm not buying it for the looks. If it provides convenience and effectiveness, then I'll take it. Will just be waiting for a 10 inch miter with the better design. not a huge deal breaker. I think it's milwaukee's first cordless miter saw.
Agree 100%!! Milwaukee needs to remake the 10" like 7 1/4.
Sounds like we need a high torque 10".
When I have to cut a lot of fire blocks I use a cheap Corder saw anyways. Only use the nice miter for trim etc
I’ve got the ten and I like it a lot. It’s a little sloppy on mitre cuts for hardwood I find. No matter how carefully I dial it in it just won’t cut perfect 45s. Mdf has enough to play to fudge it but not real hardwood.
Blades make a huge difference might not be the saw
@@Irojas1995 I only use Diablo blades. I’ve got Dewalt chop saws that cut perfect. Don’t touch them. Right out of the box perfect. Now they are over a decade old and still cut true. The Milwaukee always cuts a little odd. Good blade. Time dialing it in. Still the mitre is off a tiny bit.
See this is where I get stuck cause I always buy more then I need. This case I'm thinking the 12" better to have more then not enough in an ideal world I'd get all there sizes but not at this cost. This video helped me im going a
Full cordless and it hasn't been cheap so far . I literally will have all that milwaukee offers
Just purchased the 10" yesterday! Thanks for the video!
how much
Dust collection a big deal for me. So never went with 10”. Waiting for it
I own em both and you are spot on as to why. I love the 10”, but when doing decks the 12” is a beast.
Hmm. Excellent introduction to these two tools. Pretty much made me feel well-informed enough to make a decision.
Awesome! Which one do you think you will go with shenzhen?
I have the old 12" corded Milwaukee dual bevel saw, love just about everything except no positive stops for the bevel cuts. The tilt mechanism is the same as the 20' cordless and I hate setting the saw back to 90/0. For now in my dwindling days of full time remodeling, I'll stick with my 3 corded Milwaukee miter saws and my Ridgid Portable corded table saw. I'm heavily invested in Milwaukee Fuel cordless tools but just cannot see investing in a cordless miter/table saw when I can and am able to just grab a 25' extension cord. I do enjoy these videos and comparisons.
Nice comparison looks like I will be picking up the the m18 12 inch suits me better I think the 10 inch wins for adjustability but the 13 inch wins the tool fuel because of everything else
What does the one key offer you in this case? Can you change the RPMs or do something other than locate the tool?
Good question
You can track the tool, the status, and lock it out if stolen.
Didn't watch this video yet but super excited to when u get the chance this is something I've been wanting to see a head to head like this!
I prefer the 10" saw just because I do alot of trim work as a finish carpenter.
2x4s (maybe 6s rarely) and trim work. What should i go with?
Great video I have a 10 inch and I love it the 12 inches just a little bit expensive over here in the UK 👍👍
Thanks Ian! What's the price for it over there?
@@ToolReviewZone $100000
i have the 10inch of this and 12inch dewalt corded... I am trying to figure out which one i want to keep.
Whats with Milwaukee and their lack of positive stops on some of the saws?
Not sure bro haha. Now what you mention it, you 100% right. That was one of my biggest gripes about the rear handle saw👊
@@ToolReviewZone and the 7 1/4!
I'd like a 10 that isn't a slider. I have the DeWalt flex slider and the DeWalt flex non slider. Lately I've been getting into the lightest smallest tool that gets the job done is what I use and I think a 10 would get it done just don't want a slider.
I have the 7.25 and it is amazing so I think I would go for the 12 in
Just got the 12 the thing is an absolute beast
I just got the 12 and I'm disappointed in the "feature" that cuts off the saw after repeated cuts.
Do you think the 10 inch saw will fit inside the Milwaukee coffin roller box
Just placed my order for the 12 inch miter saw, can't wait to try it out!
Let me know how you like it Dale!!!
I just received the 10 inch model, love it
After owning the 10" for a year. I am getting increasingly frustrated with the linear bearings on the rails. Wood, not bad. But start cutting azec....shiiiit. azec powder completely gums up the bearings. I'm having to disassemble the saw and spend 45min blowing out the bearings and luring them. I've found its best to keep them dry. So I clean with wd40 and air compressor. Then use brake clean to remove and oils. When it's sliding fresh it's a great saw. Next round of cleaning gonna install those red and green battery terminal felts....hopefully it cuts down on cleaning
10" for me, that's what I own, 12" it's slightly to big for fine work like I do, 12" would be goof for contractors and framers and the like.
The 10 inch does it for me I don’t necessarily need it for a lot of larger cuts so I am going of your directions and having a bigger saw is sore disgusting I have a Makita 12 inch and I only use it seven times in the last 10 years I just went ahead and bought a small Asa for not having all that headache of moving it around
What is the advantage of the One-key doodaa? Apart from putting the price up by 200 of anything it's on!
Its just a way to track the tool. You can lock it out and track the status as well.
I actually like the 7 1/4 inch one. I just need it for punchlist stuff, I’m not a trim carpenter.
I have the 7-1/4 also and love it
I have 10 one just don't see option with cutting mitre angle 1 or 2 degrees to lock it on .
I prefer a 10 inch miter saw, there just easier to use, and both of these Milwaukee saws have an old design on the rails, look at other saws and they have the rails fixed and the saw moves on the rails .
Great review on both saws. I’m looking get a new miter saw
Thanks Jo!
@tool review zone I've heard such mixed reviews on the 12in. What is your current take on this tool? Is it good enough for trim carpentry?
I love it. No issues for all for me since this video 👊
@@ToolReviewZone awesome! Thanks for the reply, means a lot. This saw is on order! I also bought a Klein digital angle tool to make sure everything is calibrated. I've had issues with the 7 1/4in saw. The bevel 0deg stop isn't actually zero, so I've had to set it just to the left of the stop. Do you know which bolt/setting is the adjustment lock for the bevel stop on either saw?
I realized that a lot of the negative reviews on this saw were for the 10in. Home Depot sometimes overlaps their reviews for things. Main thing was accuracy. Same complaint I have with the 7 1/4.
By far the most impressive feature is the exclusive “bever stop”
12" definitely. Does everything
Yo TRZ! I'm not in the trades so I think that me being a dyi/homesteader wanna be, the 12 is more practical due to its versatility. Great vid brother! Where's that damn mitre accessory vid?????!!!!!!!! Lol!
Haha, I was hoping it would be here this weekend, but they left me hanging bro! Hopefully early this wee. Hope it works like its supposed to cause it looks freaking awesome!!!!
I want to buy 10inch but cut not so often 4x4 cedars -- want to confirm if its ok to buy this for the purpose
i have a quick question is there 12 inch wood planer from milwaukee
@lincolnswaby3102 unfortunately their is not 😪
Does the 12” cut a 3”1/2 x 11”7x8 joist?
I have had the 10in for a year now and in my opinion is way better than the 12in looks and has the same setup as dewalt 12in chop saw I hate he knob on the back always a pain!
My 10 inch broke. just cutting plastic. I brought it back to Home Depot and picked up the 12 inch instead.
At 5:06 it looks like one of your saws is out of square. The 2 side by side cuts
You seem to very favorable towards the 10" ahaha.
I think the 12" and 7 1/4 design is superior to the 10". The dust collection for the 10 is absolutely horrendous. Definitely the worst attempt at dust control ive seen on a mitre saw.
I like the design for the bevel, but a lot of people feel the same as you. I just think it's a bit underpowered
why won't anyone test the wobble? how bad is the blade from side to side? are these accurate?
What about accuracy? Which is better?
Which one is more compact?
I like the video, however I have to be the guy noticing the battery being connected while you were grabbing the blade on the twelve inch saw.
Haha yeah your right 👊
@@ToolReviewZone saftey aside this is still a great video, I'm considering making the purchase and it was nice seeing the differences.
My 9.0 batteries will work with this? (Assuming any milwakuee battery would work.) 18v.
Yes
I bought the 10" about 5 years ago and its my biggest regret tool wise. I think if i were a framer, I would feel differently but as a finish carpenter this saw is just not up to snuff. The biggest issue is with the paddle bevel, it NEVER zeros properlwhich means every single time I change the bevel i have to recalibrate it back to zero with either my square or my digital angle guage. Also the dust collection on the 10" is basically non existent which isnt a huge problem for me but a concern for some ppl for sure. The last major issue is the slide lock "feature" which has got to be the absolute dumbest thing I've ever seen designed into a tool. Its in a spot where youre constantly bumping it on so you line up your cut only to find out you cant slide the freaking thing! Eventually i just put a screw through it lol. Power wise the saw is great but i wish they would have an adapter to run off AC if you desired like dewalt does.
Basically everything he says he wishes the 12 had from the 10", are the things I hate about the 10" lol. Different strokes I guess!! Haha
I bought the 10 3 years ago. I am a finish carpenter also. There is too much play the way the rails are set up on the bottom instead of the top and the paddle on mine has stopped holding a bevel any where but 22.5 and 45 . Great for rough stuff though!
12 inch is nice if you’re not going to be moving it for a while. 10 inch is better if you are going to be packing it up everyday
I just bought the 10" I like it
I've watched this review before purchasing Milwaukee 10" M18 miter saw over 3 month ago, but kept having very poor quality cuts.. After watching some UA-cam videos on adjustment, I've realized that my turn table is 3mm (!!!) lower than the side wings, and side wings are also not flat. Even 0.1mm is still a lot. I can't imagine sanding off 3mm of steal to level it.. Contacted Milwaukee tech support, and they sent me a picture of the same model with the same issue, telling me that it's normal in miter saws. I'm now out of Home Depot 90days returning period, so returning might be an issue now, so if you are looking for miter saws, my recommendation is stay away form Milwaukee, get a quality Dewalt instead.
0:15 "MORE CHOPPING! LESS TALKING" GRRRREEEaaarrrrrr
Would like to see Milwaukee 12" M18 Cordless Miter Saw vs Milwaukee 6955-20
Awesome content! Real nice like!
Haha, thanks Dan!! 👊
@@ToolReviewZone cheers from Newfoundland, Canada!