F-4S In War Thunder : A Basic Review

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • Taking a look at the F-4S, the current (5/2023) highest tier premium American jet fighter in war thunder.
    Links mentioned in the video:
    Complete guide to radar
    • Aircraft Radar In War ...
    Complete guide to air-to-air missiles
    • Air To Air Missiles In...
    Complete guild to air-to-ground weapons
    • Air To Ground Weapons ...
    How I make my reviews
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Intro & History
    02:10 Systems & Weapons
    04:12 Flight Performance
    06:26 Combat Tactics
    08:44 Miscellaneous
    09:52 Conclusions
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 196

  • @TimsVariety
    @TimsVariety  10 місяців тому +6

    Complete Guide To Radar:
    ua-cam.com/video/n78r6klLlEQ/v-deo.html
    Complete Guide To Air To Air Missiles:
    ua-cam.com/video/v8j3kJwm_Eg/v-deo.html
    Complete Guide To Air To Ground Weapons:
    ua-cam.com/video/iaDMyKEW5Vc/v-deo.html

  • @nathansherman5684
    @nathansherman5684 Рік тому +66

    My time flying the F-4S has taught me that the only other thing you’re going to out-turn is another Phantom (and the occasional tornado)

    • @_ace_defective_
      @_ace_defective_ Рік тому +6

      honestly, with the wing slats, both the F-4E and F-4S are not half bad in terms of maneuverability. they still lose to many aircraft flown well but they do a lot better than you're making them out to be.
      of course, the problem is usually the top tier stuff lol

    • @nathansherman5684
      @nathansherman5684 Рік тому +3

      @@_ace_defective_ ehhhh, they sit at 11.3, at that br everything they face in an uptier will pretty much outperform it in every way, you can def get some cheeky kills with the AIM-7Fs by flying it like an F-14 on maps like Rocky Canyon but beyond that you’re pretty much forced to take things in a head on, and if a MiG-29 gets on your six it’s just game over, because unless if that’s their first time playing, you’re not going to successfully reverse them, as that’s the one thing an F-4S can do over the MiG-29, hemorrhaging energy

    • @_ace_defective_
      @_ace_defective_ Рік тому +2

      @@nathansherman5684 yeah the top tier stuff kicks its ass of course, an f-4 is losing to an f-14a let alone an f-16 or mig-29. at its br and lower, it's still at a disadvantage for the most part but it can somewhat hold its own. if that makes sense.

    • @theDarkside798
      @theDarkside798 10 місяців тому

      And mig 21 if they overturn and loose 75% speed in one attack.

  • @SPFLDAngler
    @SPFLDAngler Рік тому +21

    I love watching other people play and they just launch missile after missile at enemies who literally do nothing to avoid it. But every time I play, EVERY TIME, I just get swarmed by half the enemy team no matter which way I go, no matter what altitude I go to, no matter how long I hang back and wait for the furball to dissipate.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +8

      Not that its any solace, but its not just you. We all have that experience sometimes. Even the people who claim to be all s-tier god and go around telling people "sounds like a skill issue" get matches like that sometimes no matter what they say. Often its just bad luck.

    • @ericgottshall4340
      @ericgottshall4340 3 місяці тому

      At least I'm not the only person with this issue! 😅

    • @johnmorris5757
      @johnmorris5757 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TimsVarietyI hate this f-4s because the radar is inconsistent as crap and is not worth the money one minute it says launch and a missile is coming at me the next minute the same type of missile was launched at me but it don’t give me any warning

  • @Nighthawk2401
    @Nighthawk2401 Рік тому +42

    Since War Thunder first began expanding past subsonics with 1.85, all I wanted them to add were my two favorite aircraft, the A-6E and F-4S specifically...
    ...goddammit.

    • @Tigershark_3082
      @Tigershark_3082 11 місяців тому +9

      I genuinely feel bad
      Talk about a serious Monkey's Paw moment...

    • @doomguy.23frommars60
      @doomguy.23frommars60 6 місяців тому

      That's over 100 bucks for you

  • @ODST_Parker
    @ODST_Parker Рік тому +109

    Gaijin: "We don't want players skipping vehicles, because it would rob them of the chance to learn how to play. Also, we don't want to overpopulate the matchmaker with any vehicles which are too good at grinding. Also, we don't sell top-tier premiums."
    Also Gaijin:

    • @Idk-cz9ms
      @Idk-cz9ms Рік тому

      Hehehe aim7f go shoooom

    • @black_thunder2159
      @black_thunder2159 Рік тому +5

      hehehe lvl 10 goes boooom

    • @Idk-cz9ms
      @Idk-cz9ms Рік тому +16

      @@black_thunder2159 always fun to count how many f4s and mig23mls crash at the start

    • @BKBCrAnK
      @BKBCrAnK Рік тому +2

      @@black_thunder2159 *usually on the runway or the next tree/hill*

    • @Hadgerz
      @Hadgerz Рік тому +6

      "we believe that matches should have a wide variety of vehicles rather than a few vehicles used for farming"
      they mustn't have clicked 'to battle' in any plane from 9.0 - 10.7 ... where 14 of the 16 planes on each team are any combination of the f5c, a5c, su25k, a10a early, kfir canard, and F4S.
      Game's a fuckin joke at this point. 90k people playing, but still have to wait for 15 minutes for a game at rank5 because the only thing people seem to play are the top tier pack planes.

  • @NicJJiac
    @NicJJiac Рік тому +8

    6:45 what the heck is this? Between this and the F-16 video you've got some unusual missile intercepts.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +3

      Yeah I have no idea what happened there lol, I knew immediately I had to find a place for that in the vid.

    • @Inual
      @Inual Рік тому +2

      @@TimsVariety Hey Tim! By the way: I really appreaciate and like your content and recommend it to everyone in my sqadron.
      Back to the topic: This "missbehaviour" of radar missiles is not new to me nor to my squadron mates. Do you think you could look a little deeper into that topic and try to find out what is going on, since you have a way deeper understanding of the matter than me and the average gamer? I would really like to know if it is something i'm doing wrong or if the game is just "gaijining" us.

  • @DieErsteKartoffel
    @DieErsteKartoffel Рік тому +18

    Wish this bad boy was in the tech tree, I know it’s not way better than the F-4J but it’d be nice to use it without spending $70

    • @jacknickolstine3355
      @jacknickolstine3355 6 місяців тому

      Especially when you spend 70 on it for them to tell you to get fucked because you didn't know that you have to swap your account to pc from console.
      Odd they have yet to open up the account swapping and it's been 1 an a half years sense I found this out.
      Would love to have it being I just unlocked the first f4 variant in the second tree line.

  • @bunurata4867
    @bunurata4867 Рік тому +3

    I preorderd the F4S and till this day i have made 2+mil in xp and more than 10mil SL, the learning curve is pretty huge, but thats really about how to use (radar)missiles and how to dodge enemy (radar)missiles.. im not a pro in this vehicle but having a postive kd and over 400kills i would say for new people: TEST the plane until u understand all ur keybinds to fly the plane and also how to use radar.. (modes and how and when to lock enemies)…
    To dodge enemy radar lock there are some yt vids arround, but 1 tip i learned is to dodge radar contact from where ur radar is set (mostly of the time in the nose) so basically turn ur plane arround if u wanna break the lock. If the missile is allready firing at you: Go low to the ground and go sideways and up aigan so the missile gets confused by the ground.

  • @Cyktar
    @Cyktar 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for making truthful reviews

  • @johnadams614
    @johnadams614 Рік тому +8

    Just bought the f4j for the USA tech tree and the stock grind is painful

    • @blaster112
      @blaster112 Рік тому +2

      Me having just bought the Finnish Mig-21bis, which is also an end of the line vehicle... Therefore being much more expensive in modifications and not getting good SARH missiles.
      Yep

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому

      It gets a LOT better once you get the G model Sidewinders. They might not be all aspect, but they have a good seeker FOV, which makes it a lot easier to actually secure a lock without needing to constantly yank the stick around

  • @gomes389
    @gomes389 Рік тому +5

    As always... the best and most complete Warthunder reviews!

  • @ariefrahman7366
    @ariefrahman7366 Рік тому +2

    Loved the little background story.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому

      I always include a quick history of the plane in these reviews, sometimes it helps to understand *why* a plane performs the way that it does, has the features it has, etc etc.

  • @michaelsanders6920
    @michaelsanders6920 Рік тому +3

    When the enemy is 1000m off the ground and flying towards you and you have a load of aim-7f’s 🎉

  • @thedrifter9814
    @thedrifter9814 Рік тому +4

    Thanks Tim, my Dad and I were chomping at the bit waiting for this review and it didn’t disappoint as always

  • @FetterOger97
    @FetterOger97 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your vid!!! :)

  • @LOLOtheFNG
    @LOLOtheFNG Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Tim!

  • @NyanCatMatt
    @NyanCatMatt Рік тому +12

    Been taking a break from WT because I needed one, the community backlash just happened to coincide, but you better believe I'm going to keep watching the content. Keep it up man.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +7

      Im just finishing up a break myself (also coincidental timing), the burnout is real sometimes.

    • @NyanCatMatt
      @NyanCatMatt Рік тому +2

      @@TimsVariety Also convenient timing, Diablo 4 is out. Good game, better than 3 for sure.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +6

      @@NyanCatMatt I gave subnautica+belowzero another playthrough. I needed something that was going to be super low-stress and not really "competitive" so to speak. As much as I love war thunder, it takes its toll lol.

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Рік тому +1

    Great review and think you covered everything well! Which is most games/sims I'm a Phantom Pilot though and though so I should love this thing once a good sale like the summer sale hits that is!

  • @jeremysiegel457
    @jeremysiegel457 Рік тому +8

    Yes finally, Tim opinion on the F4s. Always such an enjoyable moment to watch.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +3

      This was one of my most-requested reviews, and I've actually had it produced&uploaded for a few weeks now, but I wanted to wait to release it (being a VERY expensive premium) until some of the uproar had died down a little bit.

  • @blaster112
    @blaster112 Рік тому +5

    Really should have been a TT phantom.

    • @SPFLDAngler
      @SPFLDAngler Рік тому

      There are enough already

    • @blaster112
      @blaster112 Рік тому +3

      @@SPFLDAngler i disagree. The best version of a plane should per definition be a TT vehicle in my opinion. Gajin could have changed the TT F4J to the F4S with a researchable modification, but now it's locked behind a 70$ paywall.
      It's not just the Phantom that exhibits this problem, but is also present in for instance the J35, where the only version with flares and 6 missiles is locked behind a paywall. I don't care too much if they decide to sell a copy with a skin later down the line (like the Lazur), but i care about locking the best/unique versions of certain planes behind paywalls, such as the F4S, A6E, J35XS, kfir canard etc.
      In my opinion such vehicles shouldnt be available as pay 2 win. But as copies, especially at the top tiers.
      When the J35XS released it was the same BR as the J35D, except it could carry (some) flares and has 2 extra missiles. Now they are different BR, but the TT is still lacking a J35D with flares.
      Similarly, the F4S could have simply been an upgrade to the F4J to give it Wing slats, changing the J to the F4J/S (where it's either a J or S, depending on if the upgrade is installed, similar to the BMP1, which ingame is a BMP1 or BMP1P depending on the BMP1P modification). If they then decide to sell a premium copy whatever. At least you're not missing out on a similar plane.
      The US now has their best ground attacker (A6E) and best phantom (F4S) locked behind a 70$ paywall which is a disgrace from gajin.

    • @Hadgerz
      @Hadgerz Рік тому +2

      @@blaster112 remember when gaijin used to release paid aircraft that had less features than the tech tree versions...those were good times. J35XS is a p2w ufo and they put it at 10.7, a BR which rarely sees more than a single 11.3 aircraft per match, and absolutely never sees 11.7. not even trying to hide it these days.

  • @spartanx9293
    @spartanx9293 Рік тому +7

    This should have come to the tech tree instead of the f4j

    • @SPFLDAngler
      @SPFLDAngler Рік тому

      There are enough F4 in the tech tree. Don’t need any more to grind through getting to the good jets

    • @kierano8390
      @kierano8390 Рік тому +2

      @@SPFLDAngler the F-4's are all so different. so nah

    • @Nighthawk2401
      @Nighthawk2401 Рік тому +2

      ​@@SPFLDAngler
      So folder them. It's horseshit that the best Phantom the US will ever get is paywalled. It wasn't a rare model or anything, no reason to make it premium beyond greed

  • @FM-hw8yv
    @FM-hw8yv Рік тому +7

    I hate facing that thing. Radar missiles are unflarable/unchaffavble for me but when I fire them, literally anything dodges it by doing nothing

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver Рік тому +1

      Flares don’t affect radar missiles. That is why.

    • @FM-hw8yv
      @FM-hw8yv Рік тому

      @@FXIIBeaver I know, should have said that i use mixed flares

    • @TheDarklingWolf
      @TheDarklingWolf Рік тому +8

      I swear to god, this has been my experience in my F-4J. I'll get a lock, get two red circles, yeet out the missile and my radar will just go "I'm tired boss" and shut off, then I get a 7f up the ass from another F4.

    • @BulletRain100
      @BulletRain100 Рік тому +1

      The main strength of radar missiles is that if the other person isn't already taking steps to evade before they're around 5 miles (8km) away then they are dead. It sounds like you're trying to dodge way too late and shooting at people who are ready to dodge. Videos from DCS are the best to understand what a BVR fight looks like, and the rest you just need experience with the weapon system to know how to use it and dodge it.

    • @sherlocksinha2435
      @sherlocksinha2435 Рік тому

      ​@CannedCoochie at close range that's unreliable. I've plenty of e2 kills in the 4E from dudes going cold thinking they'll break missile lock . I don't know whether the 4S can switch lock types mid lock or not. Going cold works when both planes are in the same speed ballpark where the missile itself fails to track

  • @garrisonchilds2610
    @garrisonchilds2610 Рік тому +2

    7:00 would totally watch a video on that just saying :)

    • @viewer54322
      @viewer54322 Рік тому

      same, prob a couple times even

  • @sabatic
    @sabatic Рік тому

    Nice guide dude

  • @storm_Pattern
    @storm_Pattern Рік тому +3

    a video on the keybinds that you use would help me greatly. i'm awful at setting stuff like that up no matter how much i try

  • @rammen4
    @rammen4 Рік тому +140

    Day 27 of asking for the intro song back

    • @chr0min0id
      @chr0min0id Рік тому +5

      I second this…

    • @lordalex2521
      @lordalex2521 Рік тому +1

      yes

    • @ODST_Parker
      @ODST_Parker Рік тому +2

      I will never understand why people enjoy listening to the same damn tiny snippet of music every single video. I literally always skipped it, because it gets annoying after the first one.

    • @rammen4
      @rammen4 Рік тому +30

      @@ODST_Parker It's catchy as hell

    • @ODST_Parker
      @ODST_Parker Рік тому

      @@rammen4 Yeah, the first time. Not so much after dozens.

  • @Lazeee__
    @Lazeee__ Рік тому +3

    New mic? Audio sounds better than usual

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +1

      Yep, picked up a new one a little while back.

  • @Hatfieldfarms44
    @Hatfieldfarms44 Рік тому

    I started with the F5C m thinking of getting this during the summer sales

  • @zombieBoredBastard
    @zombieBoredBastard Рік тому +2

    I used this to grind the whole US air tree and I'm not a new player by any means.. However, if you're going for the F-16 / F-14, do not use bombs.. Make a preset consisting of ONLY Zuni rockets and missiles. Fuck the gun pod and anything else. Go into the settings and enable "Empty weapon containers automatic jettison" so your rocket pods will drop as soon as they're used. Then they won't fuck up your flight performance. Always use the rocket CCRP and you have enough rockets to destroy 1 base per run. You will earn guaranteed 20k SL / 5k RP per base without boosters and that only gets better with boosters.. You don't have to trust or listen to me, but try it for yourself. Make a zuni preset and use it for grinding RATHER than bombs

  • @shakenbakejake25
    @shakenbakejake25 8 місяців тому

    I saw this on another creator's video on the F4S, but when you get a small map like city you ALWAYS want the gun, if you expect to dogfight take the gun. I have had matches where I can def fly and perform just that little bit better without it, and you have to definitely find the maps (the bigger ones usually) where you will not need the gunpod.
    Of course....you will then find yourself in situations where the gunpod will have gotten the kill, and it just ends up being personal preference.

  • @viewer54322
    @viewer54322 Рік тому +2

    this was my first purchase as a new player to wt. I bought it and had more experienced friends who also bought it so I had tons of help learning.
    In hindsight, now that I know how the MM and BR truly 'works' it feels like this thing is kind of scammy for gaijin to sell as it feels like you paid 70$ to be a target for top tier jets. I am not exaggerating that out of hundreds of ARB matches less than 20-30 (im being generous) were not completely up tiered.
    I still managed to grind out the tree, I want to like this thing but.. maybe I am doing something wrong but it feels like a chore to use this over the f16/f14. If it wasnt for the 95% up tier rate then this would be a fun plane.
    On the bright side: any trust I had in gaijin is completely gone despite being a new player so I will hopefully never have a bad experience with them again as I wont be buying premiums.

    • @Madduckk
      @Madduckk 9 місяців тому

      Exactly why I bought it so I could play with my friend who had higher tier jets except when I bought it my friend went away on vacation for a week so I had nobody to help me learn so it basically was hell for me

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu Рік тому +4

    I notice there are issues with the landing gear in game. Many do not work after takeoff.

  • @APolishedTurd
    @APolishedTurd Рік тому

    This thing is beautiful if you climb early in the notch up to around 8-10k then cut nose in and head on the team from up high.
    5 AIM7s and two AIM9s.

  • @morrislee8512
    @morrislee8512 Рік тому +11

    I'm still currently on the strike but i still watch your video because your section on vehicle's history and design is really entertaining

  • @valhallasrevenge
    @valhallasrevenge Рік тому +3

    just wanted to point out that it might get a drop pod with the coming update, all or most of the F-4 planes should be getting one.
    this might help out with the fuel that you talked about at the end.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +4

      I'm really anxious for the additional drop tanks, there are so many planes that ought to get them.

    • @valhallasrevenge
      @valhallasrevenge Рік тому +2

      @@TimsVariety the silly thing about it, would be that it goes on the center line. so you'd have to choose between that and the gun :/

  • @eyo8766
    @eyo8766 Рік тому +2

    I guess I was striking even before the actual strike.
    I absolutely refused to spend 70 bucks on this and endured the horrible grind until the F-4J

  • @unytix
    @unytix Рік тому

    Hi, your video is really good. Can you make a video about the Mirage F1C-200?

  • @hybrid_grizzly
    @hybrid_grizzly Рік тому +1

    Also the F-4S has a helmet mounted sight. You can aim the Sidewinder’s seeker if you don’t have a radar lock, and if you press the button for acm boresight again when you’re in that mode it will switch to HMS for the radar. It won’t auto lock, aim at a target and press lock.

    • @hybrid_grizzly
      @hybrid_grizzly Рік тому

      Worth noting that the actual sight for the hms that appears in the cockpit is broken in VR (last I tried it). The system technically works, but the visible sight is locked forward and doesn’t stay centered in your view.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +3

      @@hybrid_grizzly Its a known bug, currently busted on the mig-29 as well. I reported it a while back and sent some example footage.

    • @hybrid_grizzly
      @hybrid_grizzly Рік тому

      @@TimsVariety I was big sad when I flew it in Sim lol. Especially after flying the Su-27 in DCS which makes great use of hms

  • @MarcoChurchH
    @MarcoChurchH Рік тому

    Yo Tim little question/suggestion: I've been binge watching your reviews while working at home but there's like 100+ aircrafts all grouped at once in the playlist. Since the number is growing bigger and bigger would you consider splitting it into nations? I believe it would make a more coherent watching experience for those who actually use plalysts on autoplay. THX, love what u do :)

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +2

      Ive been thinking about creating around half a dozen new playlists - for nations, for "high tier" "mid tier" "low tier" , fighters, bombers etc

  • @Tigershark_3082
    @Tigershark_3082 11 місяців тому +1

    Bit of a random thing regarding the F-4S, but I had always thought Gaijin would add it before the F-14A/B
    I have a few pictures of this thing armed with both AIM-9Ls and AIM-7Fs (sometime in the early 1980s), about to be launched off a carrier.
    Shame I won't be able to recrate that image unless I spend $70...
    Also, I'm really sad that despite this thing be a $70 premium, it got ZERO GE skins (just the base Ferris Camo, which is a market camo on the F-4J, and the pre-order blue skin. I would've been way more tempted to get it right away if it got a low-vis grey scheme, like what it used in the mid-late 80s shortly before retirement.

  • @jimmyjazz166
    @jimmyjazz166 Рік тому +1

    If any newer player consider buying this - REMEMBER - you will fight against veterans who got to their F-16 and Mig-29 and know what they are doing. You will suffer - and its really not worth paying that amount of money for some pixels ;)

  • @eggnugget575
    @eggnugget575 7 місяців тому

    I was surprised it had an HUD instead of the basic gunsight reticle

  • @miyukiteishi9051
    @miyukiteishi9051 Рік тому +1

    Pro Tip: Take 20 minutes of fuel and dont afterburn spam to the battle

  • @Konrado92
    @Konrado92 5 місяців тому

    What are those small square openings in the middle top of fuselage? I was googling it but didnt find anything useful

  • @DeloreanGaming_
    @DeloreanGaming_ Рік тому

    I would wait till Fourth of July in my opinion for a sale

  • @jeremysiegel457
    @jeremysiegel457 Рік тому +1

    Hey Tim what is your opinion on top tier matches ?
    Even if the mirage outclasses the F4s, I found the F4s easier because of the sheer amount of missiles that it had.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +3

      Honestly, a huge amount of it comes down to personal playstyle. Some folks will find a 'missile truck' easier to use, some folks will prefer the mirage even with its lower missile count, etc etc. Theres no right or wrong answer.

  • @TheThanimal
    @TheThanimal Рік тому

    Anyone know what those doors are above the engine are?

  • @fire_drake12.arc.24
    @fire_drake12.arc.24 Рік тому +2

    i love this plane but holy hell the matchmaking is horrendous. i am lucky to even get an AT BR match. Just another example of how bad the game balance is and how stupid "raising the maximum BR" to "decompress" is the worst possible method of doing it.

  • @diegopalma4882
    @diegopalma4882 Рік тому +1

    Could u make a review of the F4c please?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +2

      I'll get to it eventually, but it won't be too soon - I try not to do aircraft from the same family too close together.

    • @diegopalma4882
      @diegopalma4882 Рік тому

      @@TimsVariety oooh, i get it, thanks so much :D

  • @dankmemewalker7738
    @dankmemewalker7738 Рік тому +3

    I found this review helpful because I'm going to buy that phantom once the summer sale arrives(If it is included in it). Now the only minor gripe I can see some people having is a quick guide on its radar but you have already linked the appropriate video so that shouldn't be an issue unless they play sim and decide not to watch it(top jets without IFF is just asking to cause accidents). I would give this review an 8/10 overall with great footage, and that's coming from someone familiar with the F4j.Would like to see some more examples of average or bad games as to fully include the War thunder experience.👍

    • @FM-hw8yv
      @FM-hw8yv Рік тому

      what radar? You lock your missile, fire it, fly away a second after you launched it. Not hard

    • @dankmemewalker7738
      @dankmemewalker7738 Рік тому +3

      @@FM-hw8yv the concept of PDV with notching and the fact that you cant just "fly away" after firing a fox 1(and a possibility to accidently attack a friendly). Never said it was hard. Of course that stuff should be short and not detailed as Tim already explained it in a dedicated video. Some people are too quick to buy expensive premiums without realizing the curve as Tim mentioned.

    • @FM-hw8yv
      @FM-hw8yv Рік тому

      @@dankmemewalker7738 but you should be able to fly away after you launched, the target is designated before already. Flying straight for like a minute will only get you killed
      And I dont use premiums by the way, I suffered the grind to the mig 21 mf in the gertman line where I now absolutely despair at using these weird radar missiles

    • @FM-hw8yv
      @FM-hw8yv Рік тому

      @@dankmemewalker7738 Also where is that radar missile guide video? I seem to need that

    • @capncrispypoo9342
      @capncrispypoo9342 Рік тому

      @@FM-hw8yv No, it's a Fox 1. Active radar homing, that means you need to keep the enemy locked on the radar until it hits.

  • @ClockWork-zj7zy
    @ClockWork-zj7zy Рік тому +4

    Did you guys hear about the changes coming to the Kurnass 2000? Best Phantom in the game, getting Python 3s but at what cost 😢

    • @DM-qm5sc
      @DM-qm5sc Рік тому

      Hopefully they just delete the whole game so no one has to worry about anything

    • @ClockWork-zj7zy
      @ClockWork-zj7zy Рік тому

      @@DM-qm5sc rather pessimistic ey?

    • @Tigershark_3082
      @Tigershark_3082 Рік тому +1

      I mean, those Sparrows were hugely ahistorical. Kurnass 2K lacked the wiring or other equipment to guide and carry Sparrows, so I'm fine with it.
      Besides, it's going down to 11.3 WITH Python IIIs

    • @ClockWork-zj7zy
      @ClockWork-zj7zy Рік тому +1

      @@Tigershark_3082 i mean it’s still nice but I just like the medium-long range capability. It was the only israeli aircraft that could do that with a PD radar and now tis gone

    • @josephburge168
      @josephburge168 Рік тому

      Ya love how it gets aim 9ls and python 3’s but Americas only premium top tier doesn’t get all aspect u like Germany and Russia cuz Gaijin. 🙄

  • @FM-hw8yv
    @FM-hw8yv Рік тому

    Can you make a radar missile guide or do you have one already?
    My mig 21 ones don't hit for me whenever i fire them

  • @DoomOfConviction
    @DoomOfConviction Рік тому +1

    The F4EJ ADTW is a much better grinder due to the lower BR, it’s 10.7 in Sim where you simply dominate with it and another plus is that your always flying against the US and they have all crappy radar in that BR range so visually spotting is a thing and your flying a Phantom, so the enemies won’t intercept you often. I ground out the Japanese tech tree in two weeks with that thing…

    • @viewer54322
      @viewer54322 Рік тому

      Is it true that the f4ej also gets IFF ability when using PD SRC?
      The f4s is kind of a nightmare in sim mode because PD doesnt have IFF, forcing you to use SRC mode with clutter which usually results in you being killed before being able to see if the contact is hostile.
      Beware of friendly f4s in sim mode, very high accidental TK rate due to this.

    • @lemangeur2poulet248
      @lemangeur2poulet248 9 місяців тому

      @@viewer54322No pd have iff currently

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge Рік тому +1

    Reminder that Ash is recommending that players not buy premium vehicles at this time.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому

      I try not to recommend for-or-against buying anything in particular, but ... holy smokes are the top tier premiums expensive ... enough so that I used red font for it ... :-\ ...

  • @takticaltoaster3122
    @takticaltoaster3122 Рік тому

    How do I use hmds?

  • @amr1739
    @amr1739 Рік тому

    Hello have you made a review for f-4j uk premium of uk ??

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому

      I'll get to it eventually, but it won't be soon.

    • @amr1739
      @amr1739 Рік тому

      @@TimsVariety thanks for ur fast reply, but sir i really need ur opinion and review regarding this one , i had already completed USA air techtree and don't wanna invest/waste f4 phantom in an already completed line, considering my options for high tier money making air vehicle and ur videos has been my only reliable source which was straight forward and clear for me to understand so thank you tims :)

  • @Main-itt
    @Main-itt Рік тому +2

    have in mind that 90% of the time you will have other f4s premium noobbies as your team mates.

  • @tobeykoch9166
    @tobeykoch9166 Рік тому +2

    Your should be using the 5400 km mode most of the time because it ignores the chaff

    • @Panocek
      @Panocek Рік тому +1

      Also known as Pulse Doppler Velocity.
      And while it does ignore the chaff, amount of people even accidentally notching it in the furball is greater than you might think. And then Sparrow 7F have anti chaff measures, so even if radar locks onto chaff, missile is likely to guide its way to the target if its not too far off.

  • @spartanx9293
    @spartanx9293 Рік тому

    0:33 okay apart from the f102/f-106 and naval f4s can you name a single aircraft for which that is the case I bet not because it had nothing to do with fighters but with jet interceptors which tended to not be armed with guns for the sake of space saving

  • @emadyanni8360
    @emadyanni8360 Рік тому

    Hi PLZ can U Explain Why The Radar Missile At 6:42 Go For Another Target And Destrroy It Plz ! How It Could Be !!

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  Рік тому +2

      Its a longer explanation than I could type in a youtube comment, but the super short answer is that the other plane had VERY bad luck and flew in the way at the same time my primary target was doing an evasive maneuver.

    • @emadyanni8360
      @emadyanni8360 Рік тому

      @@TimsVariety thx man :)

  • @emergency_broadcast_system
    @emergency_broadcast_system Рік тому

    I prefer the air force variant to the Navy's

  • @IRLFlightSim
    @IRLFlightSim Рік тому +1

    If you are under the age of 1 and are rank 12 or less and somehow bought this thing please watch the pinned comment video^

  • @black_thunder2159
    @black_thunder2159 Рік тому

    i hope the little timmies watching this video could really take the "outperformed by 4th gen fighters" well.
    cuz i can tell this will always sounds like "F-4 Phantoms sucks" to most players, when its not even close to being bad.
    its literally above average, which is better than good.

  • @HelminthCombos
    @HelminthCombos Рік тому

    the F-4's original profile is far far more compatible with the warfare of today and not the 1950's

  • @Firewordien
    @Firewordien Рік тому +1

    The last time top tier actually took skill was back then the f100 and the mig19 was the top dogs. where you would actually need to use your brain to get kills.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому +1

      I’d argue it lasted a bit longer than that, up to the F-4C and MiG-21. They didn’t have radar weapons at launch, and were actually pretty weird to learn how to use at first
      On the whole, though, I don’t think the game got really, REALLY bad until they added a new faction in China. The problem isn’t even with China itself, it’s the way that China was implemented. It resulted in faction based matchmaking being completely destroyed, killing off any remaining historical roleplay. Sure, we can argue it was never realistic to begin with, but J7Ws and Bearcats duking it out over Iwo Jima is a much more thematically satisfying battle than a US Bearcats vs French Bearcats over Saipan

  • @Squid0iq
    @Squid0iq Рік тому +1

    Hi tim

  • @sanfran49er
    @sanfran49er 5 місяців тому

    I'm doing something wrong.. playing on PS5 & I can't seem to get my radar lock to stay on my enemy & I'm on his ass. Won't lock. Way too complicated then it needs to be

  • @StealthyShot
    @StealthyShot Рік тому +1

    BEST PREMIUM IN THE GAME, u get HMD and can carry 6 radar missiles like a F-14. 3:45 AIM 7Fs are my main dog fighting weapon

    • @killingyouwithlogic5808
      @killingyouwithlogic5808 Рік тому +1

      I agree The F4S and the Mig23 ml best 2 Prems so far!

    • @StealthyShot
      @StealthyShot Рік тому

      I used the MiG-21S for the Russian tree before they added that, but told my friend to just get the MiG-23. I love me my radar missiles r-3rs work great at 9.7.😂😂

  • @Madduckk
    @Madduckk 9 місяців тому

    I was flying this thing while watching this video and I ended up crashing into my teammate lol

  • @spartanx9293
    @spartanx9293 Рік тому

    2:10 gaijin please just put it in the game already

  • @UBBA_REAL
    @UBBA_REAL Рік тому

    I have it an honestly it's not worth it unless you get a full down teir it's not worth $70 (honest from ar ealy owner)

  • @volatile5460
    @volatile5460 Рік тому

    Nothing in this game will be worth 70 USD. Even if they fix everything and the game ends up having the best F2P monetization model to ever grace the world of gaming, 70 dollars is ridiculous to ask for a simple voxel plane, especially when DCS’ F-4 is about to come out.

  • @SnowMaverick
    @SnowMaverick Рік тому +1

    This jet is pretty good for its br

  • @mnepg9878
    @mnepg9878 4 місяці тому

    And now its far from primary specs! Everything are nerfed! Missiles are slow, radar is slow to lock and lose lock without reason! Plus F 15s F16 MiG 29 and SU27 in the match!

  • @Cpt_Wolf
    @Cpt_Wolf Рік тому

    Not a broken dime, until they fix the game.

  • @Mr.JedisGaming
    @Mr.JedisGaming Рік тому +1

    🫡

  • @Squid0iq
    @Squid0iq Рік тому +3

    First❤

  • @Arc_Lab
    @Arc_Lab Місяць тому

    out class it a little bit...

  • @DownHereInChile
    @DownHereInChile Рік тому

    Don't encourage people to buy top tier premiums when they lack the skillset; it jut ruins the game for everyone else...

  • @SPFLDAngler
    @SPFLDAngler Рік тому

    It’s not worth it. F-16 and MiG-29 will just beat you with better missiles

  • @Loading...2740.
    @Loading...2740. Рік тому +2

    This thing makes me angry

    • @tobeykoch9166
      @tobeykoch9166 Рік тому +10

      Mad cuz broke 💀

    • @fire_drake12.arc.24
      @fire_drake12.arc.24 Рік тому +3

      @@tobeykoch9166 more likely mad cuz skill issue. dude probably head-ons them constantly while they lock him with radar as he watches the sparrow enter his cockpit.

    • @ursensitiveinagayway4016
      @ursensitiveinagayway4016 Рік тому +3

      @@tobeykoch9166 I have f16, f14 and a6e. F4s doesn’t loose lock as much so it’s easy to use, imagine needing no skill for top tier😂💀

    • @aussiedogfighter285
      @aussiedogfighter285 Рік тому +1

      @@fire_drake12.arc.24 nah, probably because so many clowns buy these after 10 hours in game at most, then Die 2 min in battle, leaving his surviving team handicapped

    • @tobeykoch9166
      @tobeykoch9166 Рік тому

      @@ursensitiveinagayway4016 true, I also have all of them, but the f16 and 14 are way better in all combat situations

  • @josephburge168
    @josephburge168 Рік тому

    I love how Germany and Russia gets planes with all aspect missiles but america once again gets shafted and get another F4. There might not be a Russian bias in the game but there’s for sure a fucking anti American one. Just look at every top tier American vehicles that other nations get and watch them get the better version in almost every case. The mig23 can go up against 16’s and 14’s and still do decent but if you go against a mig 29 in the f4 unless that pilot is fucking terrible your dead in 98% of fights. Add in the fact that almost every game is a loss means the plane isn’t worth buying even if your god because no matter how good you are you won’t win against 5 or 6 mig 29s when your the last one Alive. 🙄

  • @johnmorris5757
    @johnmorris5757 3 місяці тому

    This is the worst prem plane in the high tiers

    • @xumuk772
      @xumuk772 3 місяці тому

      Bruh… Selled my obj 292 and bought this majestic eagle. After 2 weeks of playing 1 simulation battle a day killing everything it faces I researched all of tier 5 and partly tier 6. And this is relaxing, the word “grinding” didn’t ever occur to me.

  • @DarkKelo
    @DarkKelo 9 місяців тому

    real bad plane don t buy it hell don t even get it for free what you see here is not real in most matches the enemy is 10X better and can t even lock them

  • @bennyohara2357
    @bennyohara2357 Рік тому

    Cryin in F-4EJ ADTW 🥲