How Much Does A Custom Fitting Actually Affect Performance?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Are custom fittings worth it? I headed to Ping's European Fitting Centre in Gainsborough to find out just how much I could gain from using a custom fit driver compared to one off the rack.
My fitter Paul Rymer got my dialled in in not time and all and the results were very interesting!!
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Hi, I'm Hannah Holden; welcome to my channel!
I am a +2 golfer from Leeds, England.
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Custom fitting won’t fix a poor swing. Spend the money on fixing the swing. Much better value long term.
Hi Hannah, great video, the ping fitting was fantastic, love to see a video on the DEwiz watch for distance and swing plane
i will forward to it maybe, in the future, cheers mal
Incredible that you got fitted with a shaft 45.75in long which is the std Ping offer for men, but rarely used by tour pros for example who normally play around 45in shafts and are tall guys.
100% efficiency? WOW. I don't doubt the 3 shots/round stat. I took my new 10K to the home track and hit 4 personal best drives. Looks like your Qi10 might be going in the closet? 😆
45 and three quarters is too much. for me
I'm sure hannah can handle many inches! 😂
No woman golfer is buying a 430 with a stiff shaft off the rack... they would get the regular/senior/ladies flex...
This video already started off as a joke...
What are you talking about. Loads of women use a stiff flex myself included 😂😂😂
let’s not categorise based off one type of lady golfer you have seen play 👍🏼
@@hannahholdenNCG I don't care what your single digit sample size is... 90% of women are not buying that setup off the shelf...
Edit: I just rewatched to see your swing speed... it's 90mph with a driver... I bet that stiff shaft suits you perfectly... 😂
Have had three fittings in my life (twice for driver, once for a 5W), I can honestly say I’d rather have invested in lessons. I think the only thing the fitters did was help me find a shaft that worked well with my swing. But that did nothing to help with slices, hooks, etc.
Get lessons first and then get the clubs tailored to your refined game.
Fitted clubs can't completely stop all bad shots but they should really help with shaft choice for correct sequencing and lie angle for good ground contact. You can also influence shot shape but this is more helpful if you hit one shot shape. Lessons are always king if you're looking to improve.
I totally agree. Lessons first, then custom fitting.
I never had a fitting. I watch you tube reviews and do a lot of reading. I bought a Paradym X 5 wood and my score improved dramatically. I bought it with the stock specs. Good enough for me
45 3/4 is not a "standard length" shaft. Its a stupidlly long shaft borderlline long drive desinged to trick people into thinking this driver goes further than last years when they hit 1 in 10 out the middle
I like Hanna's videos because she and I have the same club speed and I can relate to her! Tired of watching these other dudes' with their 115 mph driver speeds. Keep up the great work!
I need to find the old guys with the 120-130mph ball speed🤣 i'm tired of watching these guys with the 160-170 ball speeds! Ian from Club Champion, love him but hes so consistent.🤣
same
@@joepawling4735 Yeah Fraz is pretty dialed in with his contact - especially for a guy swinging around 110 mph!!
Clubs are ridiculously expensive at this point. If you have the money, by all means get a fitting. Do you know what getting a fitting will do for you?? Take more money out of your wallet. They will ALWAYS upgrade the shaft to something ridiculously priced. Unless you are a really, really good golfer, or very short or very tall, or a very serious bad golfer, I doubt you will save many strokes from a fitting. Like a lot of other people are saying, spend the money on lessons instead. Older clubs work great with a decent swing. If you really want to save strokes, learn how to chip and putt.
Custom fitters only care if you are a good player. Otherwise, you don’t have the attention you need to really help.
Disagree this has never been my experience with fittings with a variety of handicaps
@hannahholdenNCG most of us on here are blue collar people and not high rollers. So when we pay for a custom fit it’s probably not the best of the best taking care of us..
Confirmed this the other day with my first ever fitting for a driver. It was over in 15 minutes fitting me to a stock club. It was a disappointing experience.
It's not really the don't care, but if they don't get consistent data it's hard to make improvements
@@matts7048 then they need to stop marketing custom fitting to high handicap golfers. But they won’t because that’s a large portion of the paycheck..
Love your straightforward style. Not trying to big yourself up, just good honest content.
I appreciate that!
1. Fittings at reputable places are free. 2. If you are really erratic, there is less value in a fitting because the measured parameters jump around a lot BECAUSE of the erratic contact. However, if you are NOT all over the place, they are not worthless because they can help you determine best club head weight, shaft weight, and flex that might help decrease some of your variability.
That would be nice but around here they are all charging about $100/hr and it doesn't go toward the purchase anymore.
I've never had a good, reliable fitting that was free.
Getting a fitting for a full set and driver has seriously improved my game especially as being 6ft2” so standard clubs just too short causing tight swings. Shaft length was my main need but had angles modified as well to boost distance.
I bought a stock driver from a mate and switched out shafts , mainly via weight , until i found the one that put me in control .
Stock shaft was a 65 s (actual 69) it gave me lots of fades and pulls ,so i put in 45 r gained some feel and distance but hit a lot of high shots so put in a 53 s (actual 55) and bingo baby draw rockets.
New but outdated shafts are being given away on e bay .
My rules for testing were keep to the same shaft profile ( mid/high for me ) and stay at standard loft/lie .
Shafts really do matter its staggering how they affect your feel, speed and shape .
As an amateur golfer there are two or three keys aspects as to why we don't get a 'quality' custom fit. Firstly, the 'quality' custom fit centres aren't all that well available, and certainly not to the extent shown in many youtube videos. Secondly, the cost....fitting centres only hold the newest clubs and lets be honest prices are going up and up year on year, to the point of being unaffordable to most when playing for fun. Here you are a Ping centre where 14 clubs is probably going to set a player back £3k or £3.5k when fully fitted. Finally....because we are all constantly changing, and 2 or 3 years later we have a different grip, different stance, different technique from a lesson or two......and we've then just lost a fortune because we now need something different to suit everything which has changed since the last fitting. So we continue to search the second hand market for 1/2 price bargains of clubs that are 'good enough' for our needs as a casual player of golf for fun....
I don't think I've spent as much on my whole second-hand golf kit as it would cost to get a custom fitting for a single club, much less the club. Getting a fitting and brand new clubs would blow my golf budget for several years...
600 US dollars...I would want a massive improvement over my 425 driver.
Where is this Ping Centre please. How much would a full custom fitting cost? I bought a stock 44inch shaft for my G425 Driver and am now hitting that far straighter but do wonder if I’d have benefitted from additional weight adjustments to complement this shorter shaft and my slow senior (65 mph) swing speed. Any advice for this weekend golfer much appreciated.
Hi I was in Ping on Monday and my driver was at D5 - - Paul changed it to D2 and my efficiency went to 99.3% - - amazing
Nice!!!
Just started golfing myself, went to golf mart and had a sales person dial me in on a driver and 5 wood. Swung a few different clubs and he made some adjustments and I left with the 2 clubs that I was most consistent with. Really cool dude took his time and it was free. Every place I’ve been to after that the sales people really could give a care less. This is what I think works best for a beginner.
I have a buddy that got me into this game that shoots 80- hi 80’s every time we go out. He would benefit from a fitting. I keep telling him but he’s stubborn, dude still swings old Skool burner irons, Dunlop wedges, tsi1 driver. Nothing fancy in his bag but the dude is consistent. With a proper fitting I think he could get down to mid 70’s quick.
You are looking really well Hannah. Those golf trips abroad must be suiting you. ❤
Biggest scam in golf unless you are a pro
I agree
Taylor made glove at a ping fitting centre !!!!!! You naughty person
Oops 😂😂
Get a fitting when your hcp is solid single digits. Spend most of your time with wedges and putters.
Key word: Proper fitter. The most difficult step.
Hannah, when are you dropping your next WITB video?
Next week!!
2 changes at once, shaft & head, which one was the best change. What was the final swing weight ?
What shaft did you finish the fit with? Impressive dispersion for sure
Hanna
I’m new to your link. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
I'm female, 60+, and a returner to the game after many years of not really playing. I waited until I had a couple of years under my belt then went to get custom fit for a driver 4 years ago and ended up with not just driver but full set of irons too. Definitely the best thing I could have done but in my experience most pro shops are not exactly blessed with a huge range of clubs/demos for ladies. If you can get along to a demo day take advantage of it.
Definitely agree! Get some practice time in then go somewhere with lots of clubs you can try
Amazing how many people buy off rack or eBay and spend a fortune ...and then have a terrible driver ..madness get fitted immediately 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I know 😅😅😅😅
How much do ping charge for fitting as most fitters in clubs are very poor
Ping charge £25 for a 75 minute fitting in the UK
Hannah you should seriously give it a go for LPGA if Copilot can add 8 strokes gained throughout the bag. I’m using a stock G425 wow I need to book a Fitting Experience next time I’m in Scottsdale.
I would love to but it’s so expensive!!
Wearing a Taylormade glove during a Ping fitting....At their fitting center.
Details, details.
Great video, keep them coming... subscribed.👍 Maybe consider a tripod of some sort, your camera person is swaying about like they've had a few to many Shandies😂
😂😂😂😂 we have some tripods and some gimbal footage for close ups but noted
Absolutely no point whatsoever, if you are in any way inconsistent, I'd like to see the "app" that can sort that out!
Disagree. The fitter literally told me higher handicaps get the most out of fitting. Just have the right shaft can help you become more consistent. The majority of golfers are mid to high handicappers why would brands invest so much on fitting if it didn’t work for most of their clients 🤔
@@hannahholdenNCG Sorry, I seem to have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick, so to speak.
I had literally no idea, that this service was free.
Great video…
thank you!!
I was a 25hc, with the old R7 taylormade Irons,
I wanted to buy a new set but only when I got to single figures,
I get to 9.2hc and thought I'm in single figures with these old clubs, do I really need new ones?
I did buy new ones, Srixon Z785, they felt buttery smooth against the old R7's
3yrs on, still hovering around 9-8 but I have scratch my course and lingered around 4-2 for a while,
It showed that putting was the key to low HC for me,
add to that, my back, 15% knee, 5% L/hand nerve issues, 10% and poor putting, 70% all push me back up to 9.
What's interesting is it didn't take long to get you dialed in. That guy knows what he's doing. Thanks for the video Hannah. See you next time.
The fact that she's a very good golfer with a very consistent swing really helps...they don't need a big sample size of swings with each setup to get a really good feel for what that configuration is going to produce for her in terms of results. Also going to the same fitter fairly regularly helps build some familiarity with your swing and narrows down the focus for the fitter in terms of what they can do to optimize your results. ....And of course the obvious - he's likely a very skilled fitter as well!
That is not a Ping driver head, at 6:40 he just unscrews the head and it comes off. I have the G430 Max and the G430 Max 10k (I'm dumb) and you need to bash the thing on the wall to get the head to come off. This video is not accurate. PS..Hannah is a Rock Star
🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is so true!! At least you know the heads are secure
That’s the truth…I have the Ping SFT head and when I want to change the lie to the flat setting I have to really bang that sucker for it to come off…I love the club though…I had a slight fade, but the straight flight tech (SFT) is really fantastic…my flight now is straight or with a little baby draw…
Your balance is incredible!!!
As a beginner, I always feel apprehensive about getting a fitting. You sometimes here horror stories about fitters trying to put people into more expensive clubs and pricier, upgraded shafts. Admittedly, I'm not a good enough of a player to worry about that anyway. Hannah is great though.
I have had hundreds of custom fittings through the years and have always had good experiences (even before I worked in media) I think going to brand centres such as ping, titleist etc can ease those concerns as they have so many stock shafts and they rarely push for expensive upgrades
@@hannahholdenNCG "... hundreds of custom fittings" sounds expensive. Most golfers are recreational players getting on the course two or three times a month (or less). The return on investment doesn't stack up.
@@interestedbystander196 it’s my job 🤷🏼♀️ I’ve had four fittings in the last week 😅
@hannahholdenNCG Hi Hannah. Thanks for replying. I know it works for you, and it makes sense since you're a pro.
Sorry for the confusion and not being more clear. My point was about the rest of us - the "normal" golfers who only play occasionally. Economically, it really isn't viable.
50 years as a golfer here. Spend money on lessons. Your swing will change over time.
I also believe that fittings are not helpful to players who are trying to improve their swing and have not yet “grooved” a swing. Too many variables might change in that time. When you’re happy with your ballstriking THEN you can fine tune your equipment to improve your game. To do that beforehand would be a waste in my opinion. My friend is a 20+ handicapper who just got completely fitted and spent over a couple thousand dollars.
But, his game has not improved because his swing is the issue. If he really wants to get better he needs lessons and practice. But, his custom fitting based on the 20+ handicap will mean that his lessons and practice will be limited by the changes he already made.
I just think that’s a backwards way of playing the game. IF you’re content being a weekend warrior who has no intention of bettering your game, then by all means get a fitting that can help straighten your slice a little bit, elevate your shots, etc. However, don’t suddenly decide to become a better golfer, because you’re going to be limited by the “ custom fitting” you had.
Hannah already has a grooved excellent swing. She definitely can be helped by a custom fitting as you see in this video. But, the fitter basically admitted that it was easy to help her because of the consistency of her swing. Unless you have that before seeing one, I just think you’re potentially going to be wasting a lot of money.
But how much extra on top of the clubs do the fitting cost?
It’s free at Ping if you buy clubs, £30 if you don’t buy anything
One day I will get fitted......but for now I am playing Callaway Big Bertha War Bird driver, 3 wood and 7 wood....they are not as long as my Cleveland Launcher, Ping newer driver or Taylor Made but I have always been long enough so it is about fairways for me.
Great video, I guess it is a lot easier to fit a club for someone that swings as stable as you do.
For those high HCP thining a fitting won't help them think again. I'm a 35 HCP so my fitting session was much longer than yours :D
Even though i'm a lousy golfer, getting fitted irons helped me. I was happy with my old randomly bought clubs, they served me well, but my fitted 7 Iron gain me on avg. +4 mph swing speed, +23 mph ball speed, +40m carry, but most importantly I trust my ball to go up in the air. So now I enjoy training and playing more.
I just got a fitting for my driver. I sliced my old driver and now I bought a new driver that I also slice... But I feel like the driver is easier for me to control and manipulate. Sure I need to go get lessons or wantch some more youtube. But confidence in your equipment helps training, help you lower your score.
For 3 strokes what was the cost from off the shelf to the custom fitting including the shaft? Is that shaft an off the shelf option for the driver or is it an expensive upgrade option? Most know that the fitting will bring a few extra yards and more consistency, but usually the cost is prohibitive.
so at her speed, if you leave the 16 degree launch alone and get her spin down closer to 2000, she would gain almost 5 yards of carry and total distance. No clue why you optimizer isn't suggesting that.
I had a fitting for irons a few years back. TBH I don't know whether I would have been better with game improvement irons but went for something right in the middle.
From your video do you really think that you had enough shots to be able to notice that much of a difference. I am not 100% convinced as the further you get into the fitting the more warmed up you.
Some of your expressions were priceless - I feel like that a lot
I have custom fitted my clubs, but also got one set I bought of the rack, wouldn’t say the score changes so much. More of how I putting :)
I’ve tried aping fitting, they only offered stock shafts, spun like crazy. Eventually got fitted where I couldn’t try most of the current equipment, got fitted for AiSmoke 9 degree, set at 8 degrees, with Tensei AV Stiff shaft. This got my club head speed up 4 to 106, which is useful at my age, most importantly spins at 2300, chalk and cheese to the Ping. I get that it’s horses for courses, but using only one manufacturer doesn’t give you the chance. I must be the only player on the planet that didn’t like the 430 driver
That was such a long explanation just to say to maybe we need to try turning down the loft… I’m mean cmon, launch is 19 degrees, spin is high, what else would you do boys (and girls)
Another great video Hannah. Did you forget you a Taylormade glove with you. Lol....Smash that like button 👇
Very interesting video but I would like to see if the next day or next week you tryout the driver. Do you hit the ball the same or are you going to need more adjustments? The average player does not have a consistent swing to repeat, so day to day your results with the same clubs is unpredictable. You can have the clubs fitted to your swing that session but your engrained swing will take over in the end. If you are a pro or excellent amateur golfer a club fitting will definitely improve your ball striking as they can repeat their swing!! I believe lessons help more than fitted clubs to improve a players ability....
Good rule of thumb… if you can play better than bogey golf with a mis-matched set of rental clubs, you should probably consider getting fitted for your next set.
Great content Hannah , always honest with your opinion. We’ll done .
Hannah keep up the excellent videos
@@robertlloyd8279 I will, thanks!
Ping make the best drivers and have the best fitting service. Taylor Made is the worst.
If the fitting experience or the fitter themselves sucks, then it’s not gonna really do much for you. If you’re going to get fitted, make sure you choose a fitter that actually knows what they’re doing.
Ive never done a fitting. A lot of my family members keep telling me I should go. Fortunate enough they have a ping fitter for me to go to. Thanks for sharing your experience!
custom fit makes all the difference.i went for a fitting tried callaway,taylormade but when he put me with the g430 and started tinkering with the shafts could see big gains with the ping,can see the difference on the course,go get fitted
Definitely not bullshit, if you go and buy new stuff you'll knock shots off no problem. Ffs
It would be very interesting to check back with us in a while to find out if the in-lab benefits hold out there in the elements, & hitting only 1 drive at a time. With any club, your swing is awesome.
If you go to a fitting & tell the fitter that the driver you have off the rack, they already know that it will be easy to get yards out of you
What price does fitting cost😊
At Ping it is £25 for a 75 minute appointment
I think irons are important, but most drivers are adjustable.
Corrected if I'm wrong but you never showed the actual trackman data on the 'fitted' setup? What a waste of time. Apologies if I'm wrong.
You can see the data at 9:56 as we type it in to the optimiser. You can also see it at 11:19 where the data from each driver option is show on the screen.
Ok then! What about recreational players, mid handicappers, that don’t necessarily have the best swing mechanics? How do you fit that?
If you watch the Ping iron video I did I actually ask the fitter about this. He said it was higher handicap golfers that get the most out of fittings not lower handicaps
So a stiff shaft helps with constant ball dispersion ? I am using a ping i15 with reg flex and finally thinking of upgrading to a ping 410 . Never had a fitting before but used the driver for a few years since getting it cheap. I use stiff shafted irons. I will be buying the new driver 2nd hand so might go for a stiff shift instead of reg . I play off 9 at the moment
What improves dispersion will be different for everyone but yet for me going to a stiff set up helped.
Hope to see you play gabbythegolfgirl.
I didn’t do a fitting but I went to the PGA Superstore with a buddy who was set on getting a Ping SFT. I was looking for a driver and gave them a whirl. Guy that worked there looked at my launch and spin and went and built me an LST in 9.0 turned up to 10 in a low spinning shaft. I bought it that day. Absolutely love it. 330-340yds in the SIM and it’s pretty close to that on the course. My bag, now that I think about it, is like 90% Ping. Gotta love the forgiveness.
Unfortunately for me, I find when I go in for fittings, my swing changes to try to hit the ball better and farther. No consistency in my swing which negates the club fitting.
They also start off with your driver for the first five hits before you warm up. Then go to their fittings after the warm up.
Off the rack TS2 Titelist driver doing well for 171 dollars but wanna get fitted for a driver soon ! #GoingFullTitleist
If it’s doing well stay put.
You lost lots of weight Hannah 👏👏
I’d trade a driver fitting for a driver swing lesson with a great coach !
It a isn’t a one or the other situation. We all need both. If you think club fitting doesn’t make a difference you haven’t been watching.
Interesting video - but it isn't really how much does a custom fitting add when you change to a different head....you could have just picked up the 10K head at the beginning....anyone going in to spend $800 on a driver is going to hit it in the bay against a couple other models and pick the best one.
We changed the shaft, loft and head option to optimise the numbers. The point of this was to show that just picking a driver out of the pro shop (which lots of people still do) is not beneficial and you should get fit
@@hannahholdenNCG Don't get me wrong, I'm totally a believer in the fitting process. While trying a few heads is very common in the fitting, it isn't really part of the customization that you get in a professional fitting. I just thought that you would focus the vid on the gains achieved through optimizing the shaft, the length of shaft, picking the right lofted head and using the sleeve to dial in the loft to optimize the launch conditions.
There's no doubt that different heads will suit golfers differently, but I think even modestly serious golfers try a few out at the shop to compare before buying the "off the rack" driver.
I went to Ping for a driver fitting yesterday April 19th.Total waste of time,I travelled 1hr 40 mins to get there for a 75 minute fitting I didn’t even get 55 mins.All there technology and skills they couldn’t beat my existing 6 year old Callaway flash driver.very disappointed 😢
Had the same recently with TM. However it was more about my swing than the clubs, that said the fitter from TM admitted there will be people who don’t benefit from a fitting session, but that’s more about the person than the kit and technology
It wasnt a total waste of time then, as it highlighted that your own driver was perfect for you and there wasnt anything better available at the time 🤷♂️
Best of luck with your punctuation and spelling issues.
So convenient 😮
Nice..
Why does my ping driver never sound like that 😞??? 🙂
Which model do you have?
@@hannahholdenNCG 425 Max, don't think it's the club tho!! 🙂
Would be interesting to see you in Canada with Ian Fraser ….. also, do Ping fitting not offer after market shafts? No Tour AD and Ventus etc?
You think the Ian is better than the Euro Ping guy ?
I think that only difference is Ian plays with all the brands versus a Ping guy ….
They do all the shafts on the wall ….
By the way 2 guys from my course went to get fitted by TXG and it was a nice experience they said….
They both loose balls the same way they were before …. Both got driver and irons for huge money
Special high end shaft and good sticks ….
They offer some after market shafts just not as many as others as they have their own shafts too
@@rejnormandin4658 I don’t think anyone has ever suggested that a fitting from anyone be it Ping or TXG will make you a better golfer.
Based purely on this video vs. the hundreds of TXG videos I’ve watched, if I had the choice I would have Ian Fraser fit my clubs every time and by a country mile. Also and according to the reply from Hannah, they do have ‘some’ aftermarket shafts but not all. Again unlike TXG. If you’re a big Ping fan ( think they make great equipment) then this type of fitting would be a dream. If like me, you don’t want to limit a fitting to a single brand, then less so. Just for the record, all I said is that “would be interesting”. I didn’t criticise the guy from Ping at all. ✌️
@@FF04RDF no ping fan here
But a believer than Ian is as good as the swing you put on the ball
Having a 800$ shaft on a 450$ head will do fouke all even if it looks good on the screen
The fitting booth at my club is full of big cash shaft for the wanabee golfer
The fitting Ian does like all the fitting is based on the best ball you hit with a combo that day
Ping is a different animal having their own shaft …
I do love the stuff they did at TXG, now it is and extension of Champion and if you read the reviews , not sure the normal fitting ( not by Ian or Mike ) are as superior
Have a great golfing WE !
I got excited as I thought you were testing the 10K!
I do hit the 10k!
@@hannahholdenNCGah I thought they just suggested it! Didn’t realise you actually were hitting it at the end. Is it going in the bag?
@@whaleshark2625 maybe 👀
Fittings are great for golfers that have a consistent swing but if you don't have one take a lesson and find your swing first. Fittings aren't needed for most recreational golfers.
Exactly! Plus good luck finding someone who knows how to match club swing weights with a driver, especially when shortening driver shafts… won’t find em in the box golf stores.
Fittings are for everyone
@petekenny3774 True, anyone _can_ get fitted. But OP's point is that fittings won't benefit everyone, especially if your swing is changing. Gets real expensive.
@@interestedbystander196 sort of agree but no amateur handicap golfer no matter how many lessons you have has a consistent repeatable swing unless you are exceptional player ....if your starting out then no to a fit but if you've been playing the game along time and have off the rack clubs your loosing out big time imho 👍👍👍...why anyone would buy irons drivers wedges off the rack is beyond me your giving up too much
Fittings are necessary to play your best, but do it after you’ve had proper lessons, played a couple a couple of years or a certain number of rounds, and your swing is relatively consistent. Then go get fit. This is what I did some years back and it did wonders for my game. The Ping technology, along with most of the other large manufacturers, is quite amazing. It’s been five years since I’ve been fitted, so this year I will get fit again. My handicap has dropped quite a bit over those years, along with my swing improvements, so my clubs need to change as well. Kudos to you, Hannah, for finding your optimal fit. The really hard part about fitting is finding someone knowledgeable that you can trust, who is truly interested in what’s best for you and trying to up charge you to make more money. That said, the onus is on each of us to have some knowledge about proper fittings, so we know what to expect and what numbers are really important, and it’s not the longest distance that’s most important. Cheers.
Ping and their garbage made for shaft. Can't stand companies that still go this route. Thanks for the video Hannah :)
What's worse though. A TaylorMade approach Ventus TR that isn't a proper Ventus TR velocore, or Ping having their shaft made by UST and not pretending it's an After market version. Don't know much about the wood shafts but the AWT 2.0 iron shaft is made by Nippon, so that's not a bad shaft.
I recently purchased a Ping g430 max. The fitting amounted to the salesman looking at my Ping 3 wood and saying 'yea that will match the g430. It took me a bit of practise before I was able to get some extra distance. However I was getting a dispersion considerably worse than Hannah's. I have since done my research and discovered that a shorter club length would be the way to go. I am not a tall person and my WTF is shorter still. I have managed to acquire a new new Tour AD shaft which is 2" shorter than the standard length shaft that came with the G430. I have only had it a few days but it feels way more comfortable. I have only used it on my net with a range monitor. And so far it is giving very consistent distances. I will seeking more professional advice advice on some tuning of my club. It won't be from the franchise where I purchased the club.
I would not recommend an off the shelve purchase.
You can cut any shaft down by 2" ??
If you are serious, getting fitted is a must. 2 years ago I did it and my distance and accuracy greatly improved. Hitting a Ping 425G Max 10.5 head set to 9.5 now gets me 220-230 yards of carry. Oh yea… I am 68 years old…⛳🏌
When you’re getting fitted for the driver, whatever numbers are the best for you at the end you should be walking out with that driver. They should not be ordering one because no clubhead and shaft are identical everything has a tolerance.