Fifth Gear: Shoot Out Audi S5 Coupe Vs KIA Stinger GT S

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • It’s a shoot-out between the Audi S5 Coupe Vs KIA Stinger GT S.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 496

  • @pouy4
    @pouy4 6 років тому +40

    Even though I'm an Audi fan but, It would have been a fair competition if it was the s5 sportback !!! Not coupe,

  • @kevinmclaughlin4807
    @kevinmclaughlin4807 6 років тому +136

    The Kia isn't even a coupe.

    • @pandu213
      @pandu213 5 років тому +2

      It's a Grand Coupe

    • @ZesPak
      @ZesPak 5 років тому +1

      @@pandu213 that's a bs marketing word. Tell me, how is it not a sedan but the Tesla Model S is?

    • @pandu213
      @pandu213 5 років тому

      @@ZesPak I suppose it's up for interpretation

    • @AdryanCosmin
      @AdryanCosmin 5 років тому +2

      If the CLS is, then this is as well

    • @ShannonSouthAfrica
      @ShannonSouthAfrica 5 років тому +9

      A coupe can only have 2 doors...

  • @fos3vcf10
    @fos3vcf10 6 років тому +201

    Nonsense comparative. Why not a S5 Sportback?

    • @autoforestjamaica8731
      @autoforestjamaica8731 6 років тому +14

      The reason I disliked this video

    • @Caymanec
      @Caymanec 6 років тому +15

      Nonsense question. Does sportback version changes anything?)))

    • @beefbroth6539
      @beefbroth6539 6 років тому +25

      The sportback is about 90lb heavier and the wheelbase is 2.4" longer. Overall length is also longer which maaaybe affects weight distributions as well.

    • @Beta4Life
      @Beta4Life 6 років тому +10

      Not to mention the fact that if you want to compare cars in a similar price range with the options you have to put the Stinger against a fully loaded A5 sportback, which it will absolutely crush in a hotlap. A comparably equipped S5 Sportback is ~$15k more than a Stinger Gt2. Buy a Stinger drop $5k on full bolt ons, and for $10k less it demolishes the S5 (Intake, Exhaust, and HFC downpipes/mid pipes setups are gaining nearly 100wheel horsepower).

    • @Beta4Life
      @Beta4Life 5 років тому +4

      @Alexander Campbell Bolt ons don't void warranties, as long as you don't do something dumb like a piggy back tune you will still have basically a full warranty. And with the Kia that warranty is for 10 years and 100k miles, unlike the garbage 3 year 30k mile warranty you get on an Audi. There is a reason no one buys Audis, nearly all of their business comes from leasing, owning an Audi out of warranty is the same as holding a semi-annual bonfire to burn all the money in your bank account.

  • @ninjankidmaryjane1910
    @ninjankidmaryjane1910 6 років тому +42

    UMMM THE KIA IS A 4-DR NOT A COUPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @chucknorris5141
      @chucknorris5141 6 років тому +1

      In the last few years, the 4-door coupe has practically become a segment all its own. Technically speaking, there’s no such thing, but you know how marketing buzzwords can create something out of nothing. Put simply, a 4-door coupe is a sedan that’s styled to look more like a 2-door vehicle, often accomplished by featuring design elements such as blacked-out B-pillars and raked rooflines to more closely resemble the sleeker, more athletic look of a true coupe

    • @djorksolo8544
      @djorksolo8544 4 роки тому +1

      @@chucknorris5141 A coupe still keep some advantages in terms of specs. A sportback would be more heavy, longer etc ... which would affect Its performances. So the sportback vs Stinger is more fair, and I think maybe the winner on track would be different !

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 6 років тому +171

    That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback, the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test. The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists. It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road. It can even do big slides with the RWD model. "7k" cheaper but it's fully loaded with every option you can think of. So in fact it's much cheaper, since nobody ever buys a S5 with zero options.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +4

      I pointed this out 5 hours before you did. Why do you get all the likes whereas so get 0? And however biased the Fifth Gear comparison is, it's nowhere near as biased as this shit:
      ua-cam.com/video/sPD1joDOlLo/v-deo.html
      AMCII 'for sale' testing is fake.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +3

      What journalists? This is the first time somebody compared it to an S5.

    • @DonLee1980
      @DonLee1980 6 років тому

      JAnx01 that’s false. Compared to a s5 this is probably the 3rd one I’ve seen. There’s a couple against the 440i as well. So far it’s been quite close, with the Kia winning in overall value and fun, while the the S5 wins in timed tests.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +2

      Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"

    • @MrSamwiseable
      @MrSamwiseable 6 років тому +2

      Honfy Lam you sound salty as hell. The Kia got its ass kicked by the Audi; seems like you’re just a sore loser 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @jonesjonz1
    @jonesjonz1 6 років тому +83

    Dont they make a a5 fastback 4door? How about you bring that to the fight, ya dopes

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 6 років тому +1

      lol; that one has 365bhp; so stick that up yuor pipes =D
      and you're hopeful towards a 2 second deficit????????? lmao, it's not exactly 0.5sec fella # deluded =D

    • @jonesjonz1
      @jonesjonz1 6 років тому +12

      @@netweed09 then why didn't they use it? Because they know. I own an audi A8 so I'm no Kia groupie. 4 doors should compare to 4 doors simple as that. 4 doors is not a coupe no matter what you or they say. The the 4 door audi weight makes that much of difference?

    • @jamesc8708
      @jamesc8708 6 років тому +8

      netweed09 Even if the S5 Fastback wins, the margin would be smaller, possibly under 1 second difference, which brings the question: is the 7000 price difference justified?

    • @jonesjonz1
      @jonesjonz1 6 років тому +6

      @@jamesc8708 simple answer HELL NO! and the Kia looks better.

    • @djorksolo8544
      @djorksolo8544 4 роки тому +1

      @@netweed09 P.W.R maybe you don't know what it means as an empty audi fanboy !

  • @crikeyrob
    @crikeyrob 6 років тому +177

    Issues with commentary:
    1) Host states that he wants to turn off the last remaining stability controls on the Audi but can’t.... but then chooses to keep the Kia’s on and complain about it. He could have turned Kia’s off but chose not to.
    2) Host states that Kia is starting to dip their toes in the “super Coupe market”.... Kia is a 4 door grand tourer. Are you blind!
    Fifth gear have lost credibility in my eyes.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +5

      Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"

    • @crikeyrob
      @crikeyrob 6 років тому +6

      JAnx01 you are wrong.
      Listen between 1:34 to 1:45. He is referring to the Audi.
      Love Kia Fangirl x

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +2

      @@crikeyrob And?

    • @simondr70
      @simondr70 5 років тому +7

      It's clear it's a paid biased review ..

    • @MR_FN509
      @MR_FN509 5 років тому +5

      The issue with Stinger owners is they think the kia can beat every car on the market they hate losing or being called out for flaws. Every car has it’s pros and cons and has a car faster and nicer car that beats it just life .

  • @lash9400
    @lash9400 6 років тому +170

    As an owner of a A5 I give kudos to Kia for producing a great looking performance car. I like the looks of it. The fact that it’s 2 secs behind the S5 means nothing to me because neither cars were designed for the track. Fifth gear give us a proper comparison, S5 sportback vs Stinger on the roads, instead of this useless review.

    • @changounchained2648
      @changounchained2648 5 років тому +1

      It's simple if they did any other objective review the outcome would be worse for the Kia!!! Take the hit ;-)

    • @djorksolo8544
      @djorksolo8544 4 роки тому +7

      @@changounchained2648 Not really! Simply, because the Stinger is fully equipped in GT version. While the audi, you still need to pay 15 to 20k more to get the same. And come on, we all know the audi will be most of the time aside the road waiting the towing truck !

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 4 роки тому +2

      @@djorksolo8544 Audis reliability isnt that bad (I have an A5 coupe myself) but you are right - you do really get a lot of extra goodies in the GT and have to pay for the nose for them as audis optional extras

    • @marcolucchini8173
      @marcolucchini8173 4 роки тому +5

      @@francistaylor1822 Here in Australia, you need twice the cash to buy the Audi compared to the Kia. And that for me was a no brainer. I ended up buying the Stinger, more standard goodies, and a seven year unlimited KM warranty. Let's see Audi give you that warranty.

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 4 роки тому

      @@marcolucchini8173 Im not disagreeing, I am also in Australia and am looking at buying one myself (first new car ever) but waiting till 2021 version as i really want the 360 camera, blind spot camera and 0+ cruise control.

  • @voncoconut5293
    @voncoconut5293 6 років тому +186

    With £7 grand in my pocket I don't mind being a couple of seconds late.

    • @SRSvictor
      @SRSvictor 6 років тому +18

      That's the thing. You don't buy a Hyundai/Kia because it's the best car in its class. You buy it because it's the cheapest. And that's not something to be proud of,if you ask me. It's cheaper,because it's worse and not just on the race track.

    • @karlosbricks2413
      @karlosbricks2413 6 років тому +16

      Latvietis96 Calling a car that advanced a shitbox is like calling Austria shit because cost of living is lower than Denmark, it's not like it's lacking HUD, leather electric seats, ,lane departure warning, adaptive cruise contrl etc. But for 7K less and with a RAWD or RWD car instead of an FAWD I think I'd be much happier.

    • @voncoconut5293
      @voncoconut5293 6 років тому +23

      Latvietis96 "For only 7K more". The price of a badge and the cost of snobbism.

    • @audirs142
      @audirs142 6 років тому

      von Coconut the Audi is better hands down. Everyone knows Audi is a luxury brand, Kia is not. Guess I’m a badge snob 😂.

    • @voncoconut5293
      @voncoconut5293 6 років тому +4

      Latvietis96. Certainly there's truth in the old adage, "You get what you pay for." And so it follows that incremental increases in cost usually, but not always, tend to provide incremental improvements, however finite, relating to a service or product in a like for like situation. In this instance the quality and performance are closely matched in such a way the that commentary on the cost saving is crucial as was witnessed during the emergence of Toyota and Datsun, later called Nissan, many years ago that were then referred to also as 'shit boxes'; not so today.
      The successes of Korean automotive industries have increased the quality and value of their products exponentially during the past few years and are already a force to be reckoned with together with their five-year warranty. Already manufactures such as Ford have effectively ceased car production in America. Few people in the world would sniff at the saving of £7 grand.

  • @BILKOWSKY
    @BILKOWSKY 6 років тому +20

    S5 coupe is lighter, has shorter wheel base than S5 sportback ( 5 door ) so it makes it faster and more nimble. So its cheating Besides KiA Stinger same equipped is 25.000 pounds cheaper than Audi S5 sportback . So its cheating again. Big minus

    • @kikerkovski
      @kikerkovski 5 років тому +1

      Stinger is 7k cheaper than Audi A5 with no equipment 😀

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому +1

      Everyone is doing this kind of comparison nowadays with all sorts of cars. I wouldn't say biased, but unfair. Think Carwow. Matt did a 5 car comparison and had the new 3 series m sport. But then promptly started to compare the base spec with the other cars and said the BMW through carwow was one of the cheapest. His review car was over £10k more!

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 3 роки тому

      @@kikerkovski I have an A5 and theres a reason that the Stinger is the car im looking at for its replacement.

  • @wesleyd.7433
    @wesleyd.7433 6 років тому +11

    Already knew those dbags at 5thgear would muck up the comparison. No way they're going to boast anything positive twards a KIA with an Audi competitor (still only 2 sec off) dbags. Guy can't even turn off stability/assist on the Kia. What a pretentious baffoon.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому

      He was doing a like for like comparison. That's fair. What isn't fair is he could have had the Stinger in fun mode and said that the Quattro is even more dull.
      Let's put Tiff in both with stability off in the Kia and see what he'd prefer. Oh wait, you can't. You dropped the only good thing about 5th Gear. Congrats, you just made your shitty program even more irrelevant

  • @ckentt2345
    @ckentt2345 6 років тому +26

    I'm not one to normally comment but this was a really stupid comparison. And the bias towards Audi was so obvious it was shameful. Clearly these guys can't be trusted reviewing cars.

  • @MaxSpeedMike
    @MaxSpeedMike 6 років тому +62

    The Kia stinger is highly underrated but he s5 is just an amazing car as well

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +7

      Underrated? The hype surrounding the Stinger is so massive, aliens in another galaxy must be able to detect it. Pretty strange when you consider the F30 BMW 3-series a model that has been around since 2011 is a better handling, smoother riding car.

    • @Toto-wk6kf
      @Toto-wk6kf 6 років тому +1

      Audi is just overpriced and they may put some cheating programs and do some human experiments like vw.

    • @commantrosexetlos4700
      @commantrosexetlos4700 6 років тому +1

      the kia can do the same time even after 5 years where the audi will need a new gearbox

    • @lash9400
      @lash9400 6 років тому +2

      losteffekt My A5 likes a drink but it’s not excessive. I topped it up once with a quart of oil in 12 months so it’s not terrible my sister had 2 mk 6 GTi’s with the same engine and it didn’t consume any oil between services. The Audi has been very reliable on the 2 years I’ve had it it’s a 2013 with 62k miles. Much better than my 335i.

    • @ifeanyiikpegbu6465
      @ifeanyiikpegbu6465 6 років тому +2

      @@bondedstars Seems you floor it everytime. Have driven an A4 with a turbo for a decade and no oil issues

  • @tonymireles7413
    @tonymireles7413 6 років тому +49

    Coupes? one is a coupe the other is a sedan

    • @barry0719
      @barry0719 6 років тому +1

      Sportback*

    • @chucknorris5141
      @chucknorris5141 6 років тому +1

      In the last few years, the 4-door coupe has practically become a segment all its own. Technically speaking, there’s no such thing, but you know how marketing buzzwords can create something out of nothing. Put simply, a 4-door coupe is a sedan that’s styled to look more like a 2-door vehicle, often accomplished by featuring design elements such as blacked-out B-pillars and raked rooflines to more closely resemble the sleeker, more athletic look of a true coupe

    • @tonymireles7413
      @tonymireles7413 6 років тому +3

      Sorry, but I own a sporty sedan (Giulia Quadrifoglio) and no one has ever called it a coupe.

    • @tonymireles7413
      @tonymireles7413 6 років тому

      Barry,
      "a two-box sedan, with continuous slope from the roof to the base of the decklid (trunk lid), but excludes the hatchback feature. Marketing terminology is often misleading in this area - for example, Daimler AG incorrectly calls the Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class sedan a four-door coupé because its semi-fastback design tries to give the impression of a coupé."

    • @danielburgin28
      @danielburgin28 Рік тому

      Sedans have 4 doors. The Stinger has 5.

  • @VanguardX
    @VanguardX 6 років тому +9

    Ive test driven both these cars and I can tell you 100% the audi is worth every penny more. The interior fit and finish, the way the car drives and sounds, how the transmission shifts instantly absolutely dominates the Kia. These things matter more in everyday driving than 2 seconds faster and the audi wins in thousands of seconds here in my book.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому +3

      Irrelevant. I can't afford the S5 with the same quipment. But I can afford a car that's damn close to it. And not be bent over when it's service time. Or after 3 year warranty is up.
      If I could afford the audi I would buy it. But I can't but I want this sized car, speed and specs so.....

  • @madsdgdhg
    @madsdgdhg 6 років тому +29

    Oh c'mon Mr. Jason, here's how to do it in the Stinger GT:
    1- Set the driving mode in Sport+ (europe only)
    2- Hold the traction control button until you see "Traction & Stability control disabled" (about 5 seconds, otherwise you'll just get "Traction Control disabled")
    3- the easy-peasy part for you - Drive it properly and have fun.

  • @Guvb235
    @Guvb235 6 років тому +49

    I learned literally nothing about the Stinger from that piece.

    • @KuyaArbee
      @KuyaArbee 4 роки тому +1

      JFCW bunch of European propaganda

    • @gone547
      @gone547 3 роки тому +1

      I did. He's got a whopper of a nose.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      Well, it's obviously a piece of overpriced trash that's _2 whole seconds_ slower than a sporty Audi.
      So yea - it's best you didn't, lol!

  • @MrPicky400
    @MrPicky400 6 років тому +8

    2 door vs 4 door really

  • @tabaksmozaiekvirus1715
    @tabaksmozaiekvirus1715 6 років тому +35

    I still th8nk kia did a very great job

  • @Rugabooorg
    @Rugabooorg 6 років тому +2

    Only an Idiot will buy an S5 which costs 25.000,- Euro more (in Germany) as a Kia Stinger because of 2 seconds on the track 😂

  • @Tefloncoated
    @Tefloncoated 6 років тому +10

    I was so disappointed with the whole show. Lap times for these cars are so irrelevant. Like wearing Wellingtons to run 100m. Very poor and rushed segment.

  • @ctk4949
    @ctk4949 6 років тому +34

    Why not compare it vs the Audi S5 Sportback so they are at least similar?? It will also be almost the same exact weight??

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      ?? Lol, did you even watch the video?! 😂
      You must know absolutely _nothing_ about cars otherwise! 2 extra doors on an S5 Sportback are no way going to overturn the _2 seconds_ of speed loss the K!a had. That's even ignoring a possible power-boost tune Audi can easily spec in. I'd stop being toxic and take the L humbly.

    • @ctk4949
      @ctk4949 Рік тому

      @@netweed09 FOUR years later...LOL!!

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      @@ctk4949 I know; just _how_ Great and mudded will the K!a be vs the *Newer* S5??? Looool - I couldn't bear to watch if I was a K!a fanboy!! the embarrassment! Manybe 3.4 seconds behind this time! 🤣

    • @ctk4949
      @ctk4949 Рік тому

      @@netweed09 Geez sorry I cannot understand anything you just said... Thanks!! lol

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      @@ctk4949 You don't have to! Just keep backing the losing car as you wish - goodnite!

  • @longtailgt
    @longtailgt 6 років тому +4

    Why the hate on the Stinger? Almost everybody else has given a positive review. It's exactly the sort of car that a petrolhead who can't afford an M3 or C63 would want to own.
    That said I'd still choose the S5. Because its simply a better car.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому

      The 340i is better than either of them.

    • @simondr70
      @simondr70 5 років тому

      It's a paid biased review it's clear ..

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому

      @@JAnx01 of course it is.

  • @commantrosexetlos4700
    @commantrosexetlos4700 6 років тому +8

    kia with the extra 7.000 it can have 600hp and a body kit..and the service for 10 years..lol

    • @simondr70
      @simondr70 5 років тому

      It would cost less than 7K of tuning to make it on par with the S5

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому

      @@simondr70 around £500. But bye bye warranty. I wouldn't trust Kia denying anything to not honor the warranty. They ain't stupid. But I'll ask when mine gets delivered.

    • @booniedavillier504
      @booniedavillier504 4 роки тому

      @@invisiblekid99 no bye bye warranty... Simple tune for 5-600 bucks and the KIA will beat it... Hell, with about 1500 bucks you can make this car a BEAST!!!! Warranty still intact!! How do I know.. I own one and eat s5 in my sleep... Along with all the v8 cars... Not joking...

  • @cgroz4714
    @cgroz4714 6 років тому +17

    sorry 5th gear...you lose with your obvious bias towards the Audi...its soooi obvious...other outfits have them even or Kia kicking Audi in the keister

  • @saewonyi
    @saewonyi 6 років тому +21

    Why are Europeans so hard on Kia? In the States, there are so many rave reviews for the Stinger. There seems to be much more brand snobbery in Europe.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 6 років тому +2

      The Stinger is MUCH more expensive in the EU as it is a car that is imported from outside the EU = tariffs, IIRC.

    • @anotherkeyboard4274
      @anotherkeyboard4274 6 років тому +8

      I live in Northern Europe and the fully loaded kia is 70k euro, the Audi S5 sportback goes towards 100k euro. Easy choice if you're not a brand snob.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      Because people in European do have friend and they make more money than States. Korean car are not cheap. Some come with lifetime warranty just to get people to be interest in buying it.

    • @TMS5100
      @TMS5100 5 років тому

      appearances and flaunting your social status is very important in europe. badge snobbery is extremely important.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому

      @@TassieLorenzo it's actually not cheaper. The GT2 in the US is $51K with the same equipment as our GT-S. That's around £44k. The GT-S is cheaper

  • @LawrenceAbramoff
    @LawrenceAbramoff 6 років тому +34

    You should repeat the test with ESP switched off in the Kia. I own one in Australia and disabling the ESP also stops the brakes grabbing for no reason because its actually fully off unlike in the overpriced and unreliable Audi.

    • @barry0719
      @barry0719 6 років тому

      ow

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +1

      Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"

    • @LawrenceAbramoff
      @LawrenceAbramoff 6 років тому +3

      @@JAnx01 I previously owned a D4 Audi A8 4.2L TT TDI. Trust me when I tell you its overpriced and unreliable. Every service was 4 figures minimum!! It's not even as good as a Ford Performance Vehicles F6E (Australia only)

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +1

      @Harry Fishnuts
      "To devote a whole comparison just on this on a track is waste of time and effort."
      He wasted exactly 8 seconds talking about the Stingers ESP. It was just a passing comment and you're right, people usually don't drive with ESP on, on a race track, that's why it is ESP is important for road driving and the viewers deserve to know.
      Did you watch the whole episode when you're saying the comparison is limited to just to a track, btw.?

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +1

      @@LawrenceAbramoff
      I thought this thread was about the Stinger's ESP.

  • @AKA001
    @AKA001 6 років тому +32

    Plato’s reviews are always biased. You always know which way they’ll go before even watching it.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +3

      Biased towards what? He called the S5 dull, wasn't a fan of the Stinger either.

    • @karlosbricks2413
      @karlosbricks2413 6 років тому +1

      JAnx01 toward the S5, another commenter wrote this out better than i can be bothered to so:
      '
      'That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback, the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test. The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists. It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road. It can even do big slides with the RWD model. "7k" cheaper but it's fully loaded with every option you can think of. So in fact it's much cheaper, since nobody ever buys a S5 with zero options.''

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому +1

      KarlosBricks
      "That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback?"
      I was the first commenter to point this out, you don't have to parrot that back at me. The real reason behind this isn't bias, it's that when you're on a budget, you film with cars you have at a given day, not with cars that you wish you'd have.
      "the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test"
      1. Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"
      2. The gearbox bogs the engine down and some people have confused it with ESP intervention.
      "The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists."
      "It can even do big slides with the RWD model."
      Anything with RWD and nearly 400 hp is going to be fun to drive. Many of those journalists also called its handling "sloppy".
      "It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road."
      If it's a GT car, then every powerful sedan ever is a GT car.
      The point stands. Plato called many bad things about the Audi, yet Kia fangirl lunatics only name the negatives he said about the Kia when trying to prove how biased this comparison is.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      It just a benchmark man. we all know it will be slower.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому

      @@JAnx01 as a brand new stinger owner I get your points. The stability control for sure. However comparing the two cars in same conditions is one thing. Ignoring something that one of the cars can do to make it better/more fun is something else.
      Put it this way, I know which car Tiff would pick. So fuck you 5th Gear for dropping him.
      But I didn't pick the Stinger or any car on something I'd never do with it. I picked the Stinger because it does everything I need on roads for tens of thousands less than an S5 with the same kit

  • @aaryeshg.6526
    @aaryeshg.6526 6 років тому +13

    Australia is using the Stinger as a police car to replace the old Commodores. Imagine if the rest of the world did the same. 😂

    • @enqane
      @enqane 6 років тому

      haha getting big crimals in the back seats will be hard

    • @kenlawton1531
      @kenlawton1531 6 років тому

      @@enqane That's why they invented paddy wagons.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      Oh, giving up your own kind? Commodore is cool car.

    • @tbduggan85
      @tbduggan85 5 років тому

      enqane Here in Australia cops just break their legs to make crims fit in the back easier.

    • @aaryeshg.6526
      @aaryeshg.6526 4 роки тому

      @@campkira Yes it is. Sad that GM mucked up the Holden brand.

  • @considerthis9999
    @considerthis9999 5 років тому +1

    Useless review. Race drivers will never buy these cars and people who do will never race them. Think about what would happen if KIA through an extra 7 grand at the Stinger.

  • @uktech
    @uktech 6 років тому +8

    4:07 So how much did Audi pay you for this BS? The S5 in the video is a 2 door coupé. Why not use the S5 SportBack against the Kia Stinger?
    This comparison is flawed for that very reason.

  • @wisanikenny5097
    @wisanikenny5097 6 років тому +22

    Why are you guys comparing it to the S5 coupe instead of the sportback? We all know that the coupe is lighter than the sportback, so of course it's faster.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      You know nothing. Lol, shaving off a few pounds is not gonna shave off the 2 seconds. _2 seconds._
      Stop crying & being a based underdog shill: the Big Name takes this one.Go home.

  • @francistaylor1822
    @francistaylor1822 4 роки тому +1

    This isnt a fair review - its a track shoot out and not a fair comparison and should have been posted as such - theres a reason that there are so many dislikes vs how may likes of this video.

  • @alex042713
    @alex042713 4 роки тому +1

    Stupid comparison !!
    Stinger vs S5 Sportback....
    who made this decision ?!?!

  • @davidhayes4814
    @davidhayes4814 5 років тому +1

    It may be £7K cheaper but I bet the residuals for the Kia are not good. Posher badges often make financial sense.

  • @stoner27th
    @stoner27th 6 років тому +1

    don't compare an Audi to a Kia.. ever.. please...

  • @Gdank72
    @Gdank72 6 років тому +2

    Once you spec the S5 to same options as the Kia, it’s actually £58k !!!!
    Yes you can buy a base S5 for £47, but when you compare to the Stinger for £41 you get every options Audi overcharge for!

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 5 років тому +1

      Yep for journos this is always glossed over. Carwow are bastards for it. "Buy this stinger for £41K or this S5 for £47K AND get a bigger discount through carwow, hmmmm.“ No. I want the goodies and if you think I'm buying them for £17K more, your insane.
      See it all the time. Then go to real world reviews on UA-cam and it's a different story.

  • @ArnoldPranks
    @ArnoldPranks 6 років тому +8

    Well didn't the guy from Audi move to Kia some years ago, hence all the Kia's looking like Audi's last few years?

  • @Thevictor79
    @Thevictor79 6 років тому +2

    I see a coupe vs a sedan, wtf are they on about lol

  • @spaghetti9067
    @spaghetti9067 5 років тому +2

    Here we go brand snobbery coming in

  • @aftkd2011
    @aftkd2011 4 роки тому +1

    I see other youtube reviews against the same two cars and the Kia wins. So......

  • @alalaalaaa
    @alalaalaaa 5 років тому +14

    Real brand snob i must say. From the outset, he already had his “race”!

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому +1

      ? A little bit upset over there now? The Audi won the race, fair & square. So when the better Brand proves it's worth - it's judged as ''snobbery'' now?? 😂
      Really rich & ironic coming from you. So salty - calm down some time!

  • @rafipeled7873
    @rafipeled7873 6 років тому +6

    The biggest difference in in the reliability, while the Audi will suffer multiple faults the Kia will be reliable!

  • @coupe6339
    @coupe6339 6 років тому +11

    Love the kia

  • @LMVMXB
    @LMVMXB 6 років тому +8

    Bulls••t! 4 door vs coupe you can't compare, liars from the beginning.

  • @KSA21Geladettor
    @KSA21Geladettor 3 роки тому +1

    it is enough to know that Albert Biermann behind engineering that stinger. The name of this guy scares a lot of the competitors.

  • @AzerothMyst
    @AzerothMyst 6 років тому +25

    2 sec for £7k that's a bargain!

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 6 років тому +1

      It's not; and not all A5's are that exact price, clue??

    • @fearlzz4337
      @fearlzz4337 6 років тому

      Yes it is. Especially if you're an F1 driver, having a F1 race.

    • @karlosbricks2413
      @karlosbricks2413 6 років тому +1

      the 7k figure comparison is misleading. A top-of the range Stinger GT S is 45.5K, the audi's base price is 48.9K
      No matter how much more refined an Audi is, I doubt you'll consider paying 3K more for a FWD based car with fewer mod-coms

    • @britishentertainment7610
      @britishentertainment7610 6 років тому

      @@karlosbricks2413 bro s4 is barely cheaper than the stinger and more practixal than the s5.

    • @Denis_Klim
      @Denis_Klim Рік тому

      @@karlosbricks2413 it’s not fwd based

  • @cern0077
    @cern0077 6 років тому +2

    Nobody wants a kia

  • @nismo007
    @nismo007 6 років тому +9

    comparing a 2 door car vs a sportback car. Wonder how long they will last AGAIN?

  • @transformandoelcarton9442
    @transformandoelcarton9442 2 роки тому +1

    No creo que un Kia sea digna competencia de un Audi! 🤔

  • @redbb2680
    @redbb2680 5 років тому +2

    They’re both great cars, in a country where the maximum speed is 70mph on a motorway I’d probably keep the £7000 & grab an extra 4 years warranty

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому

      Well, your loss then! Some things are worth the extra payload. You're losing $20000 for what cred? Nothing.

  • @metallutca
    @metallutca 6 років тому +2

    The Kia is not meant to be a track car with hard dynamics in the 1st place

  • @gpierre90
    @gpierre90 6 років тому +1

    Sorry Kia im not a fan either.

  • @sanjayrevanna8903
    @sanjayrevanna8903 5 років тому +1

    Even in the grand tour during the second season James may had reviewed this car and had came out very impressed but this guy Jason was completely biased toward the Audi and why the hell didn't he turn off the TC which he could in the the stinger that would have given him more control of the car to himself

  • @stringer-ik1pc
    @stringer-ik1pc 4 роки тому +1

    Who would want a KIA.???

  • @jmb1497
    @jmb1497 6 років тому +4

    I own a stinger and its deadly well worth it

  • @redrock861
    @redrock861 4 роки тому

    Jan 21, I did some quick research in my area. 2020 new Kia stinger(4 door) is $52800 fully loaded, and a 2019 4 door Audi S5 sportback(4 door) is $73900. That is a $21000 difference for a 2 second lead on a racetrack that I have never taken my Kia to. I have also never taken my V8 Audi A6 to a racetrack either. This fool is comparing cars at a racetrack when people will only visit a track not even 1% of the time they own the car for. I could totally live with that 2 second deficit(on something that I will never use) and save over 20 grand.

  • @navyblue76
    @navyblue76 4 роки тому

    Am I late to this reaction party to this biased garbage review? Anyway, what are these guys on? Some good drugs or on Audi's payroll? Do a proper comparison - Audi S5 Sportback vs Kia Stinger GT AWD. Why are you guys comparing a two door S5 coupe to a 5 door sportback that's rear wheel drive? Cmon man, this is really terrible comparison and it's quite insulting to the viewers if you think we wouldn't notice the obvious BS.

  • @TheNick9910
    @TheNick9910 4 роки тому

    Why wouldn't you get the Audi with the sport package???? You get magnetic adjustable dampers, and more importantly the sport rear differential that actively torque vectors. Shame to see the black brake calipers on a prestige, but no sport package.....sad

  • @109-w7v
    @109-w7v 5 років тому

    I like the Kia, Audi’s just shout that there’s a knobhead behind the wheel, plus its ugly as fuck. As for German car customer service, I own a 911, Porsche dealers have fucked up my service more than once and overcharged me for consumables etc, shite customer service in my opinion. As for Kia’s, we owned one many moons ago and I will say that it was the best customer experience/value for money reliability experience I have had with a new car. Nice one Kia👍

  • @spinedoc893
    @spinedoc893 4 роки тому

    Why would you compare two cars that are so far apart in price??? Any car that is 30-35% more money than another should be substantially better. And who the hell buys one of these to go to the track?? They should compare the Stinger to an A5 sport back and do it for daily driving conditions. The Stinger isn't quite as refined as the Audi but its still cheaper than even an A5 (at least here in Canada) and way more powerful and likely way cheaper to maintain and repair

  • @sejongthegreat3044
    @sejongthegreat3044 4 роки тому

    Ok, came to this video for a honest shootout. Didn't even expect Kia to win. At all.
    Reviewer turns off every silly daily driver function possible on audi and drives the piss out of it.
    Then leaves every option on Kia in full tilt and complains that the fucking traction control is slowing him down
    Fifth Gear is officially a garbage production.

  • @kiwan5425
    @kiwan5425 5 років тому

    The problem is this kinda shows try to judge by only performance. It should be just one of the aspects, not the only aspect to review cars. I'm not willing to pay $20,000 more for 2 extra seconds on a track. OK. S5 is 2 seconds faster, means that higher chance its suspension setting is firmer than Stinger 'GT' which also means S5's harsh ride on the public road.

  • @DavidDavid-yz2sh
    @DavidDavid-yz2sh 4 роки тому

    Audi has lots of issues with thier gear box did u guys know that? And it's very costly to change one. I am not impress with this challenge by audi, first, audi is much much lighter than stinger, price wise is 15k more. Audi this version is a sports car but not stinger, it's only a sedan family car idiot. Wrong comparison. It only had 2 seconds lead. Least impressed.

  • @independentwith1
    @independentwith1 5 років тому

    In every review or comparison from Fifth Gear, something doesn't line up, either you don't compare the right models/variants, either you use different drivers in each car for the lap times. WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER ANYMORE?

  • @farseer7579
    @farseer7579 5 років тому

    2door coupe vs 4door GT? WTF... are you kidding?
    People who know about cars will not make this comparison.
    Stinger is not a car for speed competition. Stinger is a large car over 5m.
    Stinger is two seconds slower but offers more space and comfort.

  • @jimbodean1991
    @jimbodean1991 3 роки тому

    20 S5s could drive past me everyday and I wouldn’t notice, but I’d notice every stinger that drove past. That Audi is boring... Plate appears to be the only reviewer that doesn’t like the stinger!

  • @mikegulf2009
    @mikegulf2009 4 роки тому

    Probably the most irrelevant and biased review I've seen of the Kia. Competitor is the S5 Sportback not the coupe. Why not turn off the stability control on the Kia - isn't that what racing drivers do ? Perhaps Mr Plato would like to comment on that.

  • @dhan219
    @dhan219 6 років тому

    The Audi sport back S5 is 186 inches long and weighs 3900 pounds. This KIA GT is not even the AWD driver version which is quicker to 60 at 4.4 secs. A coupe is going to be smaller and weighs lighter than his 4 door counterpart.

  • @thn123456789
    @thn123456789 5 років тому

    Firstly, the previous S5 also had a 6 cylinder engine...only the first gen pre facelift A5 had a V8. Secondly, why are we seeing these cars being flung round a track and not a fast road review where they will spend their time. Rubbish

  • @alexvalle750
    @alexvalle750 4 роки тому

    We'll from a former Audi and Mercedes owner, and now a very proud Stinger owner.. I have to say that you're very wrong sir.. there are flaws in your review. And BTW Kia has already caught up... 🙂

  • @RH-nk7eo
    @RH-nk7eo 4 роки тому

    In what world do Fifth Gear live in? Why do they think prospective owners of both of these cars are wannabe racers?
    They're aimed at people who want luxury with a bit of oomph. 2s laptime difference? Who cares 😂

  • @macrolosses
    @macrolosses 5 років тому

    The Audi is better than the KIA. BUT....You should have compared the S4 to the KIA. Same price, better weight and dynamics comparison.

  • @edgarcia9206
    @edgarcia9206 5 років тому

    Wow you just compared a grand coupe with a 4 door fastback with a straight face... and didn’t even turn off the stability control... what happened to your credibility?

  • @idziokracja4186
    @idziokracja4186 5 років тому +1

    2 door vs 4 door 😞

  • @rpmautoreviews9249
    @rpmautoreviews9249 4 роки тому

    lots of catching up to do ??? 2 seconds may be alot in the racing circles but it's in the same ballpark and competitive.. and a lot of catching up ?? NO !! a bit in re-finement, and better fuel economy, yes... but overall build and quality, Audi has catching up to do !

  • @maxtroy8511
    @maxtroy8511 4 роки тому

    Comparing apples and oranges. A whole 2 seconds slower? Well it's a whole 7 grand cheaper too mate and the whole world knows which figure is more important.

  • @ndenkha
    @ndenkha 6 років тому

    Sorry guys, but this is a useless comparison, a couple vs. a hatchback sedan? really? you should've simply compared the S5 hatchback sedan.

  • @marquesridley2464
    @marquesridley2464 5 років тому +1

    Why not compare it to the S5 sportback 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @jseaexplorer69
    @jseaexplorer69 5 років тому

    Bias Comparison........!!!!!shame for Audi...change that Driver...A PRO and a Good Driver....

  • @ronaldperez9606
    @ronaldperez9606 4 роки тому

    Kia Stinger is best bang for the money. Who cares to track these cars ??? The winner is the car that is 98% at 7K less. If you want to go to a track, get a Porsche

  • @dbeachy1
    @dbeachy1 4 роки тому

    The frantic switching between camera angles every 1.5 seconds in parts is disorienting and unpleasant -- please tone that down in future videos!

  • @KuyaArbee
    @KuyaArbee 4 роки тому

    Bunch of fucking haters! Stinger gt2 is amazing for a first gen of its KIA car! It handles beautifully and is engineered by former Audi and BMW engineers! Who KIA brought over! Audi is a badge snob

  • @TheMannyAdvan
    @TheMannyAdvan 6 років тому +2

    How is the Stinger a coupe? it's clearly a 4 door making a sedan or Saloon (for Brits).

    • @simondr70
      @simondr70 5 років тому

      4 o clock tea saloon that is, hear hear lad ..

    • @ld9387
      @ld9387 2 роки тому

      It's a liftback

  • @davidseong9644
    @davidseong9644 6 років тому

    Kia stinger is a GT car; please learn what GT means. If you're going to compare, compare genesis G70 against it; much fair match up on track.

  • @Ziggyziggy1
    @Ziggyziggy1 3 роки тому

    Kia looks fantastic,
    Better than any of German rivals,
    And this test wasn't like for like car!
    You should have got the audi 5 door.

  • @rizzadavid5619
    @rizzadavid5619 6 років тому

    I don't like it???? I think that you get a lot for that price. It's a good car. You should ask yourself who will drive these cars on the track every day.

  • @glenkho1133
    @glenkho1133 5 років тому

    Ohh fifth gear so bias with the german brand. Ya'll just can't believe how Kia is a quick learning gamer with a lesser price tag 😂

  • @spectech73
    @spectech73 3 роки тому

    I own a 2019 s5 coupe. I did not even consider the Kia. Because it's a Kia. They are not playing the same game.

  • @jawadarif5676
    @jawadarif5676 2 роки тому

    When you compare price you should also put on cost on equipment, we know with German everything is an extra

  • @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
    @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl 3 роки тому

    I don't get why he didn't turn off the ESP in the Stinger. Just because the Audi doesn't let you do that? Silly!

  • @spaghetti9067
    @spaghetti9067 4 роки тому

    He talks as if the Kia is stealing the Audi's success and like they are a little snake to a big company trying to undermine the Audi

  • @granthaley867
    @granthaley867 6 років тому +2

    The last S5 also had 6 cylinders!

  • @cjay1138
    @cjay1138 6 років тому

    A few years ago, this brand snob didn't even consider a Kia as a contender, but now he is comparing it with Audi S5!!

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 6 років тому +2

    nice end card of white boxes there youtube team. was it made by kia?

  • @cjdacka
    @cjdacka 6 років тому

    How the fuck is it only 7k cheaper, here in Australia we cop the luxury car tax which brings the audi to $110k and Kia stinger to $65k

  • @exhibitD79
    @exhibitD79 3 роки тому

    Lol. This is hilarious. Cause "most" people who buy these cars are racing around a track.

  • @simondr70
    @simondr70 5 років тому

    2 seconds behind the German for a 7 K$ difference !? Who gives a tooth? What colors left in the Stinger ?

  • @iunlock4261
    @iunlock4261 6 років тому

    All the thumbs down is a slap in the face to this pathetic review.
    You forgot to put "Paid by Audi under the table," in the title.

  • @gaelbm7421
    @gaelbm7421 4 роки тому

    Hem the Kia is 7 grand cheaper à four door coupé so this is not a fair comparison and I think it looks better