its so tough to add boost to a non fuel injected small engine. you basically have to build a box around the carb or a complicated boost reference setup, changing the jets won't do it. The mechanical fuel injection is so friggen easy, carb hat and fuel pressure gauge is all you need.
Should have uploaded a video showing how to replace the engine on an old generator with a Predator... With Hurricane Florence on its way, I think it would have done well. I hope you guys have everything secured. Be safe.
Ike won, he actually drifted more objects than John. However I gotta give John props on his control through the trees by the garage on his first lap, handled it perfectly.
Sorry to say guys but I'm a Briggs & Stratton engine fan, 31/2hp. 5hp, and , of course, the 71/2 hp rotortiller engine. All with the horizontal crankshafts. Neibghor kid brought over a Honda 90, Dad said it was to fast. So my buddy gave me a mini bike with the 3 hp engine. Of Course, I took off the governor. It held together for 5 weeks, broke the connecting rod. Then I put on the 5hp and changed the final gearing, a few teeth smaller. This worked pretty well till a valve cracked. On the the 71/2 tiller engine. I think it come from the factory with a bit bigger camshaft, much more raw power. B&S engines are just so much better and longer life to boot. Shave the head, High Performance Carb, then we are looking at almost 50mph. At 13 years old I learned to weld, on to gokarts. At first I was using the same B&S engines that I was using. To date, my biggest kart had on it a 2 cylinder snow-machine engine rated at 50 hp. Hot rear shaft, the clutch top end from the snow-machine and a driven pulley and belt. On blacktop, the machine would close to 80mph, would climb almost anything. Power donuts fast enough to make you very dizzy. Using ATV tires and rims, it was the run around the farm machine. The was controlled only by how much air was in the tires. This was an adult sized go kart on steroids. So guys come on. Back on the farm we pressed in to service the engines that were on hand, lawn mower, rotor tiller, and I think, one even came from a wood splitter. Most Tinkers and Home hobbiests had to make do with what was on hand. Not a lot of money but a problem solving brain that just wouldn't quit. When people ask, where did I get my kart.... I just love to say, with a big grin, "I built it myself". From one gearhead to another. Guys, Please keep coming out with more videos.
Ike won for style but lost timewise by 35 seconds. I think it would be ike. Sorry john. Better luck in the FUTURE😛😛 My attempt at a joke. Lemmeno if you get it
+The Bassman to me it seems they're all bum motors when..... there's no such thing as a lower rod bearing! IMHO what happened: got a little dry and heated up (chases more oil out!), aluminum expands (steel too), let the galling begin! maybe/IF they had a bearing with a hole and funnel shape aimed at the bearing's center, and an internal protrusion (in the case) for more oil to splash against and drip/pour right AT that funnel shape (and crank arms etc, keep it all WETTER) it'd greatly reduce the issue? oil gets slung vertical off the crank itself to wet the piston and cylinder wall anyway, so something aiming more oil directly at the lowed rod bearing... like a bundle of BIC cigarette lighter's flint springs maybe? the small coils would catch a whole lot and drip, surface tension and gravity helping put the oil where it needs to be. (not saying an engine doesn't need some run-in time too)
John, blew 1st roundie -1, wailed like a bitc* -1, spun out -1, good drift 2nd last tree1st lap +1 = -2 .... Ike +1 for grass squealie, rght slide around mud tree +1, donut behind pine +1, 2nd lap good drift circle start +1, bad donut stall -1, Ike=4 , John +1 speed, overall john3 Ike 4 , IKE WINS IKE WINS IKE WINS IKE WINS
Is it bad that my engine has sparkles on every oil change hahaaha😱😨 Edit: also what would be better 212 governor not removed but stage one kit or tiloston 212 stock
hey fellas..i think Ike won the style part b/c his attempted 360 was more visable for us to see on the camera..however the speed part John you nailed that one..so in my opinion both of ya'll won...ya'll be careful with the storm coming in..much love from your neighbor in Bama
Both races were very good so that makes this one difficult to decide. After giving it much thought and careful consideration, my vote goes to Ike on the race just cause he was able to power out of that wipeout without coming to a complete stop. Happy birthday Ike! 😁
John was just alot more ballsy for lack of a better word. He was hanging it out there alot more going over the driveway and also the first lap when he slid it in close to the garage at the finish line there definitely more style sorry Ike you were doing great but if we are judging style John all the way
Arc 6773 is the correct billet rod for it. Sticker says its a ducar block. Piston has a recess cut for the exhaust valve. Valves look to be 27/24 if I recall. Lifters look larger than clone. Pushrods to upgrade have to be cut to fit I was told. The valve springs seem to be heavy duty I bought 26lbs replacements that don't seem as stiff as stock. Has auto style retainer clips. Shaft mounted rockers no stud.
Drone shots! Do it! Also groupies would be good. Disenfranchised Hotties sitting around looking at their phones. Ok, well, that one is optional, but Drone Shots! Drifting under a drone! You know I'm right!
I could really use your abused predator engine for my daughter's dirt bug. I restored it and painted it pink for her. It still has the original engine that is extremely worn out and has low compression. I plan to eventually buy a predator for it when I have extra $$on hand. I made a little vid of it on my boys wrestling channel noahsdad1972 If your interested in seeing it. Not sure if you guys giveaway stuff but I figured I'd Atleast ask if you wanted to spread some love. Closed mouth don't get fed. Love the channel.!
Issac better camera man johns got a death wish issac u looked like u were just having fun so I'm at a tie 👔 but since it's issacs birthday 🎉 congrats 🎉 issac u win sry john
Drifting is all about style not time. Ike wins based on drift speed and angle at speed, the not quite a 360 but solid 270 entry and the ballsy hedge tap. Solid style all round. 91 for Ike but a SOLID 88 from John for bigger angle but slower drift speed.
Haha, sorry John, but dare-devil Ike gotcha again. I’m pretty impressed with the little engine. It’s based on the 196cc clone? It’ll be interesting to see what parts interchange with the predator line, and definitely can’t beat the price; an arc rod and flywheel alone cost almost as much as this engine.
Ike won with style very smooth
ike was better
Also Ike was more consistent
agreed
Is ike won with style and driving skills lol but true.
All Ike. Dam the time! Sorry John . That sprocket was just kissing grass lol. Hope the hurricane doesn't reach you guys. Good luck!
with those tillotson's you can get mechanical fuel injection from GPS which is perfect for....TURBO!
best comment on this channel ever
Single cylinder carburetor is the worst type of engine to turbo. Efi still might not help that much
Maybe with a boost referenced rrfpr but the ecotrons they used on the drift trike is a much better system. You just have to know how to tune
This comment needs more likes so they see this. Would be awesome to see some boost on this show!
its so tough to add boost to a non fuel injected small engine. you basically have to build a box around the carb or a complicated boost reference setup, changing the jets won't do it. The mechanical fuel injection is so friggen easy, carb hat and fuel pressure gauge is all you need.
The sprocket is dragging across the ground 🤣
it will be fine, lol
After that flip, Ike wins by default. Sweet engine and cart pairing! Happy Birthday Ike!!
When is his twin's birthday?
Michael VanGundy the same day... that is why they are twins...
@@frankyalvarez7160
You need to learn when someone is using sarcasm. It's nice that you are trying to be helpful but my joke was a little thin.
Michael VanGundy lol
Just some ideas for future projects. A sidecar on the Coleman. And a mini, polaris slingshot clone. Keep up the good work gents!
IKE won .... how did the chain and sprocket survive being so low ?
SLAM BOY I know I was thinking the same 😂🏁
I was waiting for that 10hp to throw it off
Plenty of room on pavement. Just looks low in the grass. Less to mow!
Yea I was wondering as well
Grass juice lube !!
Should have uploaded a video showing how to replace the engine on an old generator with a Predator...
With Hurricane Florence on its way, I think it would have done well.
I hope you guys have everything secured. Be safe.
Generator engines have special crankshafts. They are not interchangeable.
Ike and John could make it hapoen
JeepYJ91 or just get a new Tillotson generator
Yeah OK 70chevelle8
@@bryanroupe8646 generators, pressure washers and some water pumps all have tappered crankshafts.
Ike won, he actually drifted more objects than John. However I gotta give John props on his control through the trees by the garage on his first lap, handled it perfectly.
Sweet go cart. I'd love it if my parents let me rip through there yard like that
I think Ike won. He took a bit more time but smidge more style.
Sorry to say guys but I'm a Briggs & Stratton engine fan, 31/2hp. 5hp, and , of course, the 71/2 hp rotortiller engine. All with the horizontal crankshafts.
Neibghor kid brought over a Honda 90, Dad said it was to fast. So my buddy gave me a mini bike with the 3 hp engine. Of Course, I took off the governor. It held together for 5 weeks, broke the connecting rod. Then I put on the 5hp and changed the final gearing, a few teeth smaller. This worked pretty well till a valve cracked.
On the the 71/2 tiller engine. I think it come from the factory with a bit bigger camshaft, much more raw power.
B&S engines are just so much better and longer life to boot.
Shave the head, High Performance Carb, then we are looking at almost 50mph.
At 13 years old I learned to weld, on to gokarts.
At first I was using the same B&S engines that I was using.
To date, my biggest kart had on it a 2 cylinder snow-machine engine rated at 50 hp.
Hot rear shaft, the clutch top end from the snow-machine and a driven pulley and belt.
On blacktop, the machine would close to 80mph, would climb almost anything. Power donuts fast enough to make you very dizzy.
Using ATV tires and rims, it was the run around the farm machine.
The was controlled only by how much air was in the tires.
This was an adult sized go kart on steroids.
So guys come on. Back on the farm we pressed in to service the engines that were on hand, lawn mower, rotor tiller, and I think, one even came from a wood splitter.
Most Tinkers and Home hobbiests had to make do with what was on hand.
Not a lot of money but a problem solving brain that just wouldn't quit.
When people ask, where did I get my kart....
I just love to say, with a big grin, "I built it myself".
From one gearhead to another.
Guys, Please keep coming out with more videos.
Dropping a comment gonna watch later on my lunch break keep up with the great work guys
Set up some cameras along the circuit for some good fly-by shots! 😁
brandon auppl yesssssss. Please
That is a great engine from gopowersports
I think Ike did well with fluid drifts
And John was just hauling butt
First off, happy birthday Ike. John had the speed but this was a comp, Ike won with style. Now to wait till wed for y'all's next video. 😀
Ironically enough, the 10th is my bday, and I was eating carrot cake which is my favorite cake while watching this. Fantastic builds guys.
I have to give it to Ike...I feel like he showed more kart control throughout the run. Great vid guys...made my day and HBD Ike! #ikesgotballs
All I gotta say, I'm sure John's parents love the idea of them drifting now.. LOL. Great effort guys!
John always wants a competition. Never wins one.
True dat.
Ike is the Master...
He has fun lol
Im still waiting to see awd gokart to make a return. Lol.
Also style: Ike wins, and to add a 3rd for consideration... control: Ike
Make a drift go cart with a e-brake
E-brakes only lock the back tires. Budget karts only have rear brakes.
esqueue he mean a actual HAND brake like a lever
Just run a double caliper on a single rotor one for the pedal one for the handbrake
@@James-pn9rt why not just a handbrake?
So the pressure can be set on the petal for driving and a higher pressure one for drifting
Ike won. Better control and more smooth. Also I think you guys should get trucker hats. That would be really cool.
Issac won ....he got closer to fixed objects. That makes drifting so much cooler
John because he had me with one eye open but you did good to ike lol I'll say a tie happy b day
Ike for style! Especially liked the drifts around the firepit lol
Sprocket it's touching the ground
julian vanschalkwyk I see it hitting also but it seems to be just more grass than anything. But that sprocket is alarmingly low.
Itll be fine
Noah Knight All, it takes is for them to run over a tree root and it's goodbye to that sprocket.
More traction
Five wheels on a go kart!
John for time and Ike for style. Glad to see Ike is doing better since the "Ragin Mower" episode. Hope you had a great birthday Ike!
Ike won for style but lost timewise by 35 seconds. I think it would be ike. Sorry john. Better luck in the FUTURE😛😛 My attempt at a joke. Lemmeno if you get it
I think you need to go BACK and try your FUTURE joke again AJ... ;-)
Ike for style points, the 360 attempts were awesome. John, you were quick, but this was more about the drifting.
Shouldnt u break in the engines before going full throttle
Thomas Lenhart suppose to but i never did
I personally just bolt and go wfo. I have never had an issue and I have 6 engines. Predator 212
they were meant to be pressure washer engines and such they will be fine
Eh Itll be fine
+The Bassman to me it seems they're all bum motors when.....
there's no such thing as a lower rod bearing! IMHO what happened: got a little dry and heated up (chases more oil out!), aluminum expands (steel too), let the galling begin! maybe/IF they had a bearing with a hole and funnel shape aimed at the bearing's center, and an internal protrusion (in the case) for more oil to splash against and drip/pour right AT that funnel shape (and crank arms etc, keep it all WETTER) it'd greatly reduce the issue? oil gets slung vertical off the crank itself to wet the piston and cylinder wall anyway, so something aiming more oil directly at the lowed rod bearing... like a bundle of BIC cigarette lighter's flint springs maybe? the small coils would catch a whole lot and drip, surface tension and gravity helping put the oil where it needs to be.
(not saying an engine doesn't need some run-in time too)
Ike does better drifting. HAPPY BIRTHDAY IKE 🎂!!!!!!
Sorry guys, I feel Ike took that drift comp.
John, blew 1st roundie -1, wailed like a bitc* -1, spun out -1, good drift 2nd last tree1st lap +1 = -2 .... Ike +1 for grass squealie, rght slide around mud tree +1, donut behind pine +1, 2nd lap good drift circle start +1, bad donut stall -1, Ike=4 , John +1 speed, overall john3 Ike 4 , IKE WINS IKE WINS IKE WINS IKE WINS
I think ike won that one with the close wall drifts and style points. Sorry John. But happy birthday ike
You guys be safe. This hurricane is gonna tear both of our asses up. Im in Wilmington.....
Is it bad that my engine has sparkles on every oil change hahaaha😱😨
Edit: also what would be better 212 governor not removed but stage one kit or tiloston 212 stock
Alex a small amount is normal just not like they had
I just pulled the trigger on one of these engines to replace my hemi predator. Can't freaking wait for it to show up!
How do you like it
where can I get a frame like the "Back To The Future" Kart? Are they still produced?
Yes www.gopowersports.com/standard-vintage-go-kart-kit/
hey fellas..i think Ike won the style part b/c his attempted 360 was more visable for us to see on the camera..however the speed part John you nailed that one..so in my opinion both of ya'll won...ya'll be careful with the storm coming in..much love from your neighbor in Bama
Why don't they ever say which one that they have because there's a regular and there's a Hemi and then there's also a 212R and a 212E
Happy late birthday Ike. Also Ike won that one.
Sorry john. Ike killed it. Carrot cake is bomb
Sprocket is way too close to the ground.. You need bigger tyres it's still gonna wreck the teeth
Both races were very good so that makes this one difficult to decide. After giving it much thought and careful consideration, my vote goes to Ike on the race just cause he was able to power out of that wipeout without coming to a complete stop. Happy birthday Ike! 😁
Ike won with those tip ins. And make some Make go-karting great again hats. Lol
Why don’t you start a go kart business like FR I WANT TO BUY ONE
Ike
Holy crap the garage is spot less it clean wow
Some of the nicest comments on all of you tube are right here.
John was just alot more ballsy for lack of a better word. He was hanging it out there alot more going over the driveway and also the first lap when he slid it in close to the garage at the finish line there definitely more style sorry Ike you were doing great but if we are judging style John all the way
He's probably a little bit weary cause of the mower
Multiple Microphones yea that makes sense XD
Ike was smoother but John definitely had some cojones at the end of that first lap! I can't pick one over the other :)
@@H31MU7 lol I agree with that Ike had a lot smoother transitions but John sent it lol
Hate to be a follower but it’s gotta go to Ike. With a competition like their you guys could really benefit from
Mayswell start calling ike DK cause he's the new drift king
lol all the dollas ppl have spent to get there briggs or predators to make 10hp and now you can bolt on a Tillotson 212 for $200
good times like that, with a good buddy's.. you both are winners. Good luck you guys.
Ike is too grass cart drifting what Michelle Kwan is too Ice skating. I vote Ike
I think Ike has that, but good work to both of you. The cart is looking and driving great.
that was cool lol id hafta go with ike sorry john lol happy late birthday ike i like carrot cake too
Way'da go Mario. John wins & Happy birthday Ike. 🎂
how do you get go karts
If you have Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist, or any other purchasing app, you can get an old, worn out frame for around 100 bucks
Kewl. Ike I guess. Pretty even. New motor is cool. Say goodbye to the predator
Cathy Budginas Would you please give my racing channel a Subscribe I would love the support
The reason why the predator stoped working is because it is a himi and they are know to break after minimal use
Bring back pugly damnit
670?
where do i get a go-kart like that? I'm serious, I want one.
you can go on letgo or OfferUp or Facebook market place and find people selling go karts for a pretty decent price
That Tillotson is sick!!!
I would love to see the btf cart leave a burn out trail of fire like the timemachien in btf
I would vote for ike as winner
Do believe that both won, style, speed, and a awesome video!!! Happy bday Ike!
Ike was smooth but johns was wild and it looked great!
Ike wins. You can't deny a little bush tap.
Ike won Jon cheated lol he ran a shorter corse
IKE won but the rooster is the true winner at ua-cam.com/video/mJs-Tl2itd4/v-deo.html
For me the winner is the “back to the future kart”
Happy late birthday .ike carrot cake delicious
Ike but not by much
Ike won only because He wasn’t afraid to mess up the lawn 😂😂
Ike won, he spent a much higher percentage of his time drifting
Bring pugly out for the hurracane! Jajajaja
Awesome Tillotson 212. Please talk more about this engine. Also, stay safe in this big nasty Hurricane !!!
Arc 6773 is the correct billet rod for it. Sticker says its a ducar block. Piston has a recess cut for the exhaust valve. Valves look to be 27/24 if I recall. Lifters look larger than clone. Pushrods to upgrade have to be cut to fit I was told. The valve springs seem to be heavy duty I bought 26lbs replacements that don't seem as stiff as stock. Has auto style retainer clips. Shaft mounted rockers no stud.
Douglas Carver do you know what the shaft diameter is. I heard that it was 5/8 but if it fits the torque converter in the video then it would be 3/4
cc10 is dead, need new coupons :)
The GX series is GM LS engine of gokarts!
Gx200 4 life
@@4EyeFoxbody nope' Tillotson Hemi 212 Engine's" Way more Torque an Power than a GX200 💪😏
Ike wins again.
Go Ike.
Happy B-Day Ike
Sweet go cart. I'd love it if my parents let me rip through there yard like that
Hope yall are safe with this Hurricane coming. Good vibes an safe passage to yal an your familys through thus rough time
Drone shots! Do it!
Also groupies would be good. Disenfranchised Hotties sitting around looking at their phones.
Ok, well, that one is optional, but Drone Shots! Drifting under a drone! You know I'm right!
badbad0166 HELL YEAH!
You should make me a go cart I would love it I'm sure
ike won the drift trials by a long shot
Ike's is clearly the winner sorry john
ike for angle and proximity
Ike had the better style. Happy birthday Ike!
I could really use your abused predator engine for my daughter's dirt bug. I restored it and painted it pink for her. It still has the original engine that is extremely worn out and has low compression. I plan to eventually buy a predator for it when I have extra $$on hand. I made a little vid of it on my boys wrestling channel noahsdad1972 If your interested in seeing it. Not sure if you guys giveaway stuff but I figured I'd Atleast ask if you wanted to spread some love. Closed mouth don't get fed. Love the channel.!
Issac better camera man johns got a death wish issac u looked like u were just having fun so I'm at a tie 👔 but since it's issacs birthday 🎉 congrats 🎉 issac u win sry john
ike better have eaten a piece for me :/
Ike won and Happy Birthday Ike
ike was had wider drifts and john was tigter
It was a tie ike won with style john won with speed
ike won for better angle and that 360
Drifting is all about style not time. Ike wins based on drift speed and angle at speed, the not quite a 360 but solid 270 entry and the ballsy hedge tap. Solid style all round. 91 for Ike but a SOLID 88 from John for bigger angle but slower drift speed.
John won happy birthday Ike
Wow
It is really a nice Kart
Do You Have any Extra And Spare Parts...?
For i can Build too....
Haha, sorry John, but dare-devil Ike gotcha again. I’m pretty impressed with the little engine. It’s based on the 196cc clone? It’ll be interesting to see what parts interchange with the predator line, and definitely can’t beat the price; an arc rod and flywheel alone cost almost as much as this engine.