@@samtrotter7177 I’m a tie enthusiast so I wear them more than the average person and I say it cause I know a lot of people who avoid wearing ties as much as possible
Universal: I'm sorry Mr. Cruise, we simply cannot create a cinematic universe that's worth billions of dollars. It's imposs- Tom Cruise: JON FAVREAU was able to build a cinematic universe in a cave with A BOX OF SCRAPS!
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 That's just one franchise. A "cinematic universe" entails multiple film titles that co-exist as one shared universe, where characters from one title (e.g. Iron Man from the Iron Man films) can show up in another character's film series (e.g. Captain America: Civil War from the Captain America movies). To be a "Mission Impossible Cinematic Universe", you'd need to have another film series that does _not_ use Mission Impossible in its titles.
I feel like Nic Cage has been on board to play every super hero role that's been available. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on board to be Captain Marvel
If they had made Captain Marvel in the 90s it would probably have been the original male alien Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell, rather than Carol Danvers (who I assume was still Ms. Marvel or one of her other various names at that point). Mid-90s Peak Action Nic Cage as Captain Marvel might have been good, especially if they got into some of the weird psychedelic stuff where he fights Thanos.
Jeff bridges is really good in this! He actually feels like Tonys friend/partner/rival/mentor while being a huge jerk. He gets the screentime needed to work with his character more than just being an obstacle for Tony to overcome.
Really liked the character of Stane, problem is his agenda and motivations don't make a lot of sense. Dude is the 2nd biggest shareholder, making hundreds of millions a year and he hires some 3rd world terrorists to kill Tony... for some reason. The he kills the terrorists that were buying shit tons of weapons from him to get the armor prototype which they offered to give him for free anyway.... guess he doesn't want those tens of millions he makes by being business partners with them anymore? Tf is going on with this guy lol
@@Rage-_-Quit His take on Stane is much better than the original comics version even though that storyline was pretty cool as it led to the kickass Silver Centurion armor for Tony.
People say he's one of the most boring MCU villains and it's true he's not written particularly well, but Jeff Bridges just does such a damn good job he's remained the gold standard I compare every other one-movie villain to ever since and he's still one of my favorites.
Ok the whole analysis of how Tony Stark sees himself the majority of the films as essentially dead is actually fucking really deep and genius, besides all the amazing jokes and great banter you guys have, you guys really do have great commentary and insight into films as a whole. Keep up the great work guys!
Definitely the best Iron Man suit to come out of the MCU imo. It just looked so realistic and feasible, like it can actually be made in the modern day (well if you watch Alex Labs you know it's possible)
Exactly. They become so cgi magical after this. Not even trying to be mechanical or realistic which is what makes iron man relatable. Not magic disappearing helmets and flying parts.
Idk why that's so important to people. I get the hate on janky weightless CGI but modern suits, especially from IW and Endgame, aren't that. Practical effects =/= automatically better.
I think I liked all the suits (appearance-wise) except for maybe the one from Infinity War. They were definitely at their best in the first 2 Iron Man movies, though. They could take serious hits without falling apart.
The movie that started it all, and in 2008, I saw it... Bootlegged, along with The Incredible Hulk, on burned DVD's, because I rarely saw movies in theaters at that time in my early teens (In 8th grade, I had to get creative), and at that point, every Marvel centric movie was a let down in some way. Once fan conversations picked up about the post credits, I watched them back to back, and they were really connecting films together, at that point they had me, and never looked back since. Now looking at people watching it for the first time, I'm in awe in seeing their reactions, and saying to myself, "sometimes, you had to be there."
Yeah I remember seeing them both with my dad, and being shocked when Nick Fury appeared. Once we realized they were going for a cinematic universe, we were. hooked
Every marvel centric movie was a letdown? Lmao you never watched Spider-man Xmen and Blade movies which are all better than the MCU no hate on the MCU tho
@@michaelthatoker7125 X2 and Spider-man 1 and 2 not better than the MCU? Sure buddy sure and what OP was talking about these movies are better than Iron Man
Ike Perlmutter was a massive cheapskate. Feige was lucky that Downey needed the win or Ike would've ruined everything. He still nearly did. I prefer Don Cheadle but Terence had a deal for Iron Man 2 and he told him he had to take less. Some say they took his money to pay RDJ.. Nobody really knows. He tried to give Jon Favreau a nice pay cut too as well as forcing him to make the movie in less time than he wanted to meet a release date. He came close to walking away. Since they weren't making 9 picture deals back then Robert Downey Jr was able to negotiate himself a pretty sweet deal once Ike was out of the way.
@@SA80TAGE I mean yeah, but some of the biggest indie music artists, are distributed by massive labels, making millions of dollars, but they’re still indie. By technicality Iron Man is still an “indie film”, no actual indie film would ever have the budget to do something like Iron Man but it’s still funny to think of it that way
GAGAGAGAGAGAGA this is wonderful! PRANK! IT is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy agayn because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT v*deos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear mr
the bit with Tony Stark tweeting #helpmeobama and video calling Jeff Bridges during the convoy attack is one of my favorite edits yet. fucking killing it, Ben and Lawrence!
I was working at the movie theater as an Usher when this came out and we told people that there was something at the end of the credits. No one was familiar with Post-Credit Scenes at that time; now it's standard practice for watching a Marvel movie.
@Ricky Nelson everyone stop having fun, the really cool guy Ricky Nelson is here to make sure nobody likes themselves more than him, which is to say, not at all
1:17 As a guy whose mostly grew up with marvel characters from the movies as the main "thing" i know them from, hearing the idea that Captain America, Thor, Ironman and the lot were just the "B Team" is just unreal
They were though. Fantastic 4 xmen etc were all the mainstream face of marvel before the MCU . iron man was never an overly popular character without the movies
I was a freshman in high school when Iron Man 1 came out, and I remember it coming out and seeing like a Times article calling Iron Man a B lister. I definitely had no idea who he was. I hadn't read many comics, and my exposure to Marvel were the the 2000s movies, the X-Men Evolution cartoon, and the Ultimate Alliance games, and I never cared for him in the games. Similarly when the Cap movie was announced, I thought it would never work because I thought he was such a stick in mud and goofy looking character. Then when Chris Evans was announced, I thought it was a ridiculous casting because Evans' whole claim-to-fame as an actor was essentially playing renditions of The Human Torch (snarky and attractive womanizers), and yet now Evans and Cap are far and away my favorites. It's wild how times have changed
@@ajclements4627 They had toys and cartoons and a few terrible live action attempts. But Iron Cap and Thor compared to Spidey, the Mutants and Hulk were still nowhere near as popular. The MCU made them A list heroes. 13 years ago if they had done the Hail Hydra twist I don’t think anyone besides comic readers would’ve cared. Now thanks to MCU and Chris Evans heaps of people care about Captain America and will flip out at crazy comic book writing choices. Can you imagine if they did Cap Wild nowadays?
@Ben Holmes the Jar Jar Binks thing was about how Jar Jar is essential to the plot. And, you know, the movie doesn't have too much good stuff in it. I like him, but I get how you can find him annoying.
Something I’ve recently noticed: this is probably my favorite editing in all of UA-cam. Fits perfectly to the point where I can’t even understand how someone could get every single clip to match up with everything they say. Major props.
@@The8347135 really? I thought that it was from the very first episode or the first 5 of the podcast, Maso would keep saying that phrase and james would not like it and it just stayed as that.
I wanted to add that the reporter lady Tony sleeps with in the beginning has various cameos in future MCU stuff, mostly those WHIH News segments on UA-cam, but it's still something pretty cool that stuck around after this first movie
Looking at Tony stark as a "man who knows he's on borrowed time" is actually super interesting and I might have to rewatch the movie he's in now through this lens
@@KeithFraser82 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Friendship is magic. Your logic not only checks out, but proves My Little Pony is set in the MCU.
My dad took me to see this movie opening day when I was about 7 years old, and we have gone to almost every MCU movie opening day since then. I have been watching these movies evolve for over half my life, and it's really interesting to go back again and see the humble origins of a franchise that has grown as large as this
Anyone else remember how awful some of the news outlets were when they announced RDJ was going to play Iron Man? There were headlines and photos of RDJ locked up and on trial and bold words like “really? This guy?”
Same with Heath Ledger playing Joker. Everyone was like "Really? That guy from the gay-cowboys-eating-pudding movie?!?! REEEEEEEEEE" We can't know until we see it. And most of the time, it surprisingly works.
When I was little kid, all I remember Iron Man from is the Marvel Superheroes fighting game. I was more familiar with War Machine because of the Spider-Man cartoon.
I was in high school when this came out and I remember a friend who worked at a theatre telling me about the post credit scene and how they were going to set up other movies. That was really the only reason I went to see it.
8:49 Superman/Spider-Man/Batman/most of the cast of Jupiter's Legacy/Various other superheroes: "I must not kill, ever, ever, no, not even if I really, really want to." Iron Man: "We don't do that here."
@@li-limandragon9287 Right - this is how professional law enforcement or military organizations etc. (even non-trigger-happy ones) operate in hostage situations, when they're facing people with military weapons who're willing to kill, etc. The MCU has generally followed this principle, while showing the heroes generally being against shoot-first-ask-questions-later or warmongering attitudes (cf. the Helicarriers in Winter Soldier, mass-produced Iron Man suits, the plot of Black Panther, etc.). It makes sense since the MCU often places characters in effective or literal war situations rather than just having them fighting lone supervillains (cf. Captain America fighting in WW2, Tony Stark intervening in the Ten Rings' ISIS-style conquests, the plots of all the Avengers team-up films). This was partly why I found all the hand-wringing in Jupiter's Legacy about one of the heroes killing a seemingly unstoppable supervillain to be absurd and unrealistic.
I love the practical-ness of all the suits. I love the helmet clanking down and somewhat accurateness of the science. Feels believable. The later nano masks and nano suits feel like magic and not so special.
More than any Marvel movie before it, Iron Man made an effort to ground the setting in reality. Watching it, you felt like the tech wasn't that far off, that everything happening could actually happen in real life. Marvel kept this grounding through many of its movies. Even the magical stories like Thor and Dr. Strange explained the magic away as "science" or the properties of the mind, respectively. (This is why the Snyderverse had so much trouble getting off the ground. If the MCU is sci-fi, the Snyderverse is mythic fantasy, dealing with gods and powers and intense formalistic symbolism. But people expected it to be like the MCU.) Anyway, I think it worked brilliantly for the MCU, and came to define the entire genre.
Literally everyone who did a review of Mortal Kombat (The Knew Kombat) or a retrospective on UA-cam kicked off because they got copyright striked because of theme. And here we are... An Iron Man video and Ben puts it in!? Fearless. A hero. An iron hero.
When I was a kid, I went to the movies to see things like The Shadow, The Rocketeer and The Phantom. I loved them all back then- and they all sort of promised that one day, there’d be something as cool as Iron Man. Imagine being a kid now and growing up on these? 🤯
Best suit. Best movie. The suit feels like a real tangible piece of tech. Watching him build the Mark II/III never gets old. Best part of the movie to me. The newer nanotechnology suits and CG mocap floating head suits all look like such ass.
An interesting note is that Thor 1 also had J Michael Strazynski on board (legendary TV showrunner and author of some of the best Thor and Spiderman arcs in the comics)
13:28 What's important there is that in all honesty in this movie its really only Tony not taking it that seriously, everyone else is basically dead serious for most of it outside of a few moments, and I think that works well for it. When EVERYONE treats it like a joke it really takes you out of the world, but when a guy who, in universe, seems to be joking at least in part to deal with a lot of emotional stress isn't taking it that seriously it helps keep it grounded. My issue with it now is that Marvel will often times ruin emotional moments with quips that don't need to be there. Just look at Black Widow and the grave scene.
I think the biggest breakthrough from this movie was the INT. TONY'S HELMET-DAY aspect. up to this point we only see the hero in a mask, this is what was bad about Spiderman, you couldn't see his face during the most dramatic moments. In Iron Man we got to go inside the helmet and watch Tony react to stuff, SO MUCH BETTER!
Please give me all of the iron man movies caravan of garbage 🙌🏻 also James I love your take about how Tony knows he’s been on borrowed time. That’s so true and you can hear it in his voice every time he talks about New York. Like he’s been seriously fucked up ever since the first avengers movie and it just keeps getting harder for him. Excellent take
Anyone noticed how when he's tweeting at 20:44 his profile pic is him opening his arms, which in-universe had probably happened like 10 minutes before? 😂😂
I always found it weird when these were coming out that people thought of Iron Man as a C-list character. Like, even if you weren't a comic book fan...the 90s animated series? Marvel Superheroes the arcade game? All those awesome Toybiz figures??
Another thing this movie established that more or less stuck around for most of the rest of the MCU: doing away with secret identities. With very few exceptions (Spiderman, and Daredevil if you count the Netflix series), most characters if they're not just using their normal given name, may at most be using a title or spy agency code name, but otherwise almost everyone is just going by or known by their normal identity most of the time.
That's only because most of the interactions don't involve civilians. Outside of Tony Stark (who outed himself on TV) or heroes that don't have secret identities like Thor or most of the Guardians of the Galaxy, they're referred to by their hero name in public. Even behind closed doors some heroes like Captain America (Cap) and Hawkeye are still referred to by their hero name often. Pretty much every Earth hero still has a secret identity.
@@encycl07pedia- They may be more generally referred to by their hero name, but the point is almost no one is going out of the way to remain anonymous or hide their identity from the public. Steve Rogers is a household name and Bruce Banner is a role model by the end of phase 3. Spoilers for phase 4: John Walker did press tours when he assumed the Captain America title, and it was no secret who Sam Wilson was either, as Falcon or as the next Cap. They even make a point of noting that Wanda had no fancy super hero alias or code name till the end of WandaVision dubs her the Scarlet Witch. The idea of a secret identity being a closely guarded secret, and all the typical tropes usually associated with them are almost completely eschewed.
God just seeing this makes me realize im fucking old, was only 8 when this came out. Now im 21, its fucking incredible to think this will be looked at as history to people who never saw it in theaters.
You know what, I'm fine with the helicopters and stuff being CGI'd now. Relying less on the Department of Defense has been to the benefit of these movies. They made Jon Favreau take a reference to military suicides out of the movie. Now that it seems they need them less, they're more lenient with the scripts. Could you imagine them letting a character like John Walker into these movies back in 2008? It'd be impossible.
Can you imagine if they'd tried to do the Demon In A Bottle story arc as a movie with Nick Cage? "Jack Daniels....scrapin' at the doooor.....SCRAPIN' AT THE DOOOOORAAAAAAAAHHHHH!"
After 10 years of seeing Don Cheadle, it's always weird watching Iron Man and seeing Terrence Howard as Rhodey. It's still good, but upon rewatches you wonder what could have been or you forget that it's supposed to be the same character. I don't know if you could get away with a recast in Marvel movies these days, even for just a one movie appearance. There's James Rhodes, Bruce Banner, and Red Skull, but you forget that Red Skull even is a recast, so it's really just those first two, after that, if you played a character, you're that character for life. It's wild.
(12:46) That dude should have been wearing a glove because that mask would have been scalding hot after sitting in the sand as long as it did. That's always bothered me for some reason.....
I love all the other movie UA-camrs the editor shouts out, I’ve seen redletter media, cosmonaut variety hour, high top films, just a bunch of the guys I love, now I get why I love your vids also
It always baffles me when people rag on Tony just because the egotism on the surface and don’t acknowledge his depths. He’s kind of fictional character Marvel does best, the flawed hero who improves himself along with world. Early Spider-Man comics are the same.
@@chandy7072 Winter Soldier is in my top five but the then follow up Captain America Serpent Society wouldn’t have been as epic as Civil War. Russo Bros really made Cap’s trilogy the best. I do really like First Avenger but there’s something about the Russos directing that’s truly special.
I know you guys have your problems with playing videos games for Caravan of Garbage (that we won’t get into here) but I would love for your guys to play the Iron Man movie games one day. I have always said the Wii/PS2 version of the first one is just okay. And the second one is well just not great.
I know you guys have probably already recorded for next week’s video, but I hope you guys talk about Chef (2014) with Iron Man 2. I feel like there’s a lot of parallels in Chef that can easily be applied to the critiques of Iron Man 2, as well as the studio interference and time constraints Favreau was under.
*Terrence Howard:* "Next time, baby!"
*Kevin Feige:* "Nope."
😂😂
Narrator: there was no next time
*Last online 13 years ago*
Best thing is, Terrence Howard basically did that to himself.
Well, it was Perlmutter, not Feige. But close enough.
Jeff bridges flipping his tie when he yells at the guy is just a perfect little flaw
As a person who wears ties a lot I can tell you it happens all the time it’s very annoying
@@notspider-man1225 Do you also yell a lot at people?
You look like the dude
@@notspider-man1225 I like how you said this like wearing ties is an incredibly uncommon thing
@@samtrotter7177 I’m a tie enthusiast so I wear them more than the average person and I say it cause I know a lot of people who avoid wearing ties as much as possible
Universal: I'm sorry Mr. Cruise, we simply cannot create a cinematic universe that's worth billions of dollars. It's imposs-
Tom Cruise: JON FAVREAU was able to build a cinematic universe in a cave with A BOX OF SCRAPS!
* Feige
Cruise has his own Universe, it's called Mission Impossible
"Well I'm sorry. I'm not Jon Favreau, and I'm not Kevin Feige."
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 That's just one franchise. A "cinematic universe" entails multiple film titles that co-exist as one shared universe, where characters from one title (e.g. Iron Man from the Iron Man films) can show up in another character's film series (e.g. Captain America: Civil War from the Captain America movies).
To be a "Mission Impossible Cinematic Universe", you'd need to have another film series that does _not_ use Mission Impossible in its titles.
Hey, I appreciate your sense of humor but the marvel superheroes were never scrap!
I feel like Nic Cage has been on board to play every super hero role that's been available. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on board to be Captain Marvel
I would watch the crap out of that movie if Nic Cage was in any role on that film.
If they had made Captain Marvel in the 90s it would probably have been the original male alien Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell, rather than Carol Danvers (who I assume was still Ms. Marvel or one of her other various names at that point). Mid-90s Peak Action Nic Cage as Captain Marvel might have been good, especially if they got into some of the weird psychedelic stuff where he fights Thanos.
he probably would have done a better job too
I'd watch that film.
"No! Not the Krees!"
Pretty sure he was in the running to play Aunt May.
Jeff bridges is really good in this! He actually feels like Tonys friend/partner/rival/mentor while being a huge jerk. He gets the screentime needed to work with his character more than just being an obstacle for Tony to overcome.
Really, Jeff Bridges is good in everything.
Really liked the character of Stane, problem is his agenda and motivations don't make a lot of sense. Dude is the 2nd biggest shareholder, making hundreds of millions a year and he hires some 3rd world terrorists to kill Tony... for some reason. The he kills the terrorists that were buying shit tons of weapons from him to get the armor prototype which they offered to give him for free anyway.... guess he doesn't want those tens of millions he makes by being business partners with them anymore? Tf is going on with this guy lol
@@Rage-_-Quit he snorted some pym particles and it jumbled his mind
@@Rage-_-Quit His take on Stane is much better than the original comics version even though that storyline was pretty cool as it led to the kickass Silver Centurion armor for Tony.
People say he's one of the most boring MCU villains and it's true he's not written particularly well, but Jeff Bridges just does such a damn good job he's remained the gold standard I compare every other one-movie villain to ever since and he's still one of my favorites.
I love how Mason creates a bit on something he heard wrong and he's just allowed to dig his grave further and further
Ok the whole analysis of how Tony Stark sees himself the majority of the films as essentially dead is actually fucking really deep and genius, besides all the amazing jokes and great banter you guys have, you guys really do have great commentary and insight into films as a whole. Keep up the great work guys!
“I’m white and rich this isn’t supposed to be happening” LOL you guys are hilarious
Ironically the rich black guy is the one attacking the convoy in his movie.
Fairness to Ben, he is the one who does the visuals for the youtube edits.
#helpmeobama
@@aweigh1010 unless it's punching up 😎😎😎
@@aweigh1010 yes it is.
Definitely the best Iron Man suit to come out of the MCU imo. It just looked so realistic and feasible, like it can actually be made in the modern day (well if you watch Alex Labs you know it's possible)
Exactly. They become so cgi magical after this. Not even trying to be mechanical or realistic which is what makes iron man relatable. Not magic disappearing helmets and flying parts.
Idk why that's so important to people. I get the hate on janky weightless CGI but modern suits, especially from IW and Endgame, aren't that. Practical effects =/= automatically better.
I think I liked all the suits (appearance-wise) except for maybe the one from Infinity War. They were definitely at their best in the first 2 Iron Man movies, though. They could take serious hits without falling apart.
@@Davidsworldtravels
Except for the hips of the suit that look like a child couldn’t have fit in to.
This is because it was practical. Made by Stan Winston. And it has imperfections like smudges it looks amazing
The movie that started it all, and in 2008, I saw it... Bootlegged, along with The Incredible Hulk, on burned DVD's, because I rarely saw movies in theaters at that time in my early teens (In 8th grade, I had to get creative), and at that point, every Marvel centric movie was a let down in some way. Once fan conversations picked up about the post credits, I watched them back to back, and they were really connecting films together, at that point they had me, and never looked back since. Now looking at people watching it for the first time, I'm in awe in seeing their reactions, and saying to myself, "sometimes, you had to be there."
Yeah I remember seeing them both with my dad, and being shocked when Nick Fury appeared. Once we realized they were going for a cinematic universe, we were. hooked
Every marvel centric movie was a letdown? Lmao you never watched Spider-man Xmen and Blade movies which are all better than the MCU no hate on the MCU tho
@@zenituragaming5043 At that point of time, aka 2005 to 2008.
@@zenituragaming5043 Lmfao, those movies are NOT better than the mcu and that’s just straight up fact.
@@michaelthatoker7125 X2 and Spider-man 1 and 2 not better than the MCU? Sure buddy sure and what OP was talking about these movies are better than Iron Man
Best case scenario for 90s Iron Man would be The Rocketeer.
Rocketeer is my shit.
That’s exactly right
Great movie
The Rocketeer kicked ass.
Beechnut gum, bitches.
The fact this is technically an indie film is mind blowing
Also had no idea Robert Downey Junior got paid less then a million
When you put it like that yeah, god damn
Then he was paid 10 millions for every other Marvel movie. He was paid 20 milions in Spiderman Homecoming
Ike Perlmutter was a massive cheapskate. Feige was lucky that Downey needed the win or Ike would've ruined everything. He still nearly did. I prefer Don Cheadle but Terence had a deal for Iron Man 2 and he told him he had to take less. Some say they took his money to pay RDJ.. Nobody really knows. He tried to give Jon Favreau a nice pay cut too as well as forcing him to make the movie in less time than he wanted to meet a release date. He came close to walking away. Since they weren't making 9 picture deals back then Robert Downey Jr was able to negotiate himself a pretty sweet deal once Ike was out of the way.
With a 140 million budget.... not to mention Paramount were distributing... it BARELY qualifies as an indie film.
@@SA80TAGE I mean yeah, but some of the biggest indie music artists, are distributed by massive labels, making millions of dollars, but they’re still indie. By technicality Iron Man is still an “indie film”, no actual indie film would ever have the budget to do something like Iron Man but it’s still funny to think of it that way
That moment where you explain that Tony is living on borrowed time is surprisingly peaceful
Imagine a world where Nic Cage played both Superman and Ironman. How different the DCEU and the MCU would’ve been
Given that Tony Stark is a bit like Lex Luthor, they could have had Cage play Lex Luthor opposite himself as Superman for extra craziness!
In our real world, Ben Affleck has played both Batman and Superman!
All it does is give me Ghost Rider flashbacks......
Imagine if Terence Howard appears in Multiverse of Madness...
He's from a timeline where War Machine kills baby Thanos 😂
!!! I would definitely watch that.
Also where 2+2=5
😂😂 dawg that’d be funny as hell
Obadiah Stane: *RHODEY CHANGED HIS FACE, WITHOUT THE USE OF A BOX OF SCRAPS*
GAGAGAGAGAGAGA this is wonderful! PRANK! IT is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy agayn because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT v*deos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear mr
@@AxxLAfriku Greetings Lord AxxL, I’m honoured to be in your presence
"No one's getting replaced!"
- Woody, [YTP] Titanium Man Likes Cheeseburgers
the bit with Tony Stark tweeting #helpmeobama and video calling Jeff Bridges during the convoy attack is one of my favorite edits yet. fucking killing it, Ben and Lawrence!
I was working at the movie theater as an Usher when this came out and we told people that there was something at the end of the credits. No one was familiar with Post-Credit Scenes at that time; now it's standard practice for watching a Marvel movie.
That's dope. You were kind of a part of history
The ushers where I saw it, told everybody there was a scene after credits.
Its kind of standard practice for a lot of movies now! Now I google if theres a post credit if Im watching a franchise movie
@Ricky Nelson everyone stop having fun, the really cool guy Ricky Nelson is here to make sure nobody likes themselves more than him, which is to say, not at all
That's not true loads of movies had stingers afterwards. Super Mario Bros, A Knight's Tale, A View to Kill.
I could listen to Goatman and Maso ramble all day. Sometimes I do.
1:17 As a guy whose mostly grew up with marvel characters from the movies as the main "thing" i know them from, hearing the idea that Captain America, Thor, Ironman and the lot were just the "B Team" is just unreal
They were though. Fantastic 4 xmen etc were all the mainstream face of marvel before the MCU . iron man was never an overly popular character without the movies
IKR? Cap, Thor and IM were never “B listers” to me growing up either. Now, the west coast Avengers…
Blade and xmen were the most popular marvel titles early 2000s
I was a freshman in high school when Iron Man 1 came out, and I remember it coming out and seeing like a Times article calling Iron Man a B lister. I definitely had no idea who he was. I hadn't read many comics, and my exposure to Marvel were the the 2000s movies, the X-Men Evolution cartoon, and the Ultimate Alliance games, and I never cared for him in the games.
Similarly when the Cap movie was announced, I thought it would never work because I thought he was such a stick in mud and goofy looking character. Then when Chris Evans was announced, I thought it was a ridiculous casting because Evans' whole claim-to-fame as an actor was essentially playing renditions of The Human Torch (snarky and attractive womanizers), and yet now Evans and Cap are far and away my favorites.
It's wild how times have changed
@@ajclements4627 They had toys and cartoons and a few terrible live action attempts. But Iron Cap and Thor compared to Spidey, the Mutants and Hulk were still nowhere near as popular. The MCU made them A list heroes.
13 years ago if they had done the Hail Hydra twist I don’t think anyone besides comic readers would’ve cared. Now thanks to MCU and Chris Evans heaps of people care about Captain America and will flip out at crazy comic book writing choices.
Can you imagine if they did Cap Wild nowadays?
Intelli-cromps just about killed me.
Back when Ironman loved AC/DC songs.
Then he switched to Led Zeppelin.
Fun fact: The first henchman that Tony kills in the cave is played by Tom Morello, guitarist of Rage Against The Machine.
Lmao, that’s amazing, almost as wild as the “wait is that Tom morello?” Moment during the Oscars a couple years ago
Haha that's the actual reaction I had while watching Iron Man: "wait, is that Tom Morello?"
Seeing Cosmonaut Variety Show in Mr Sunday Movies was like two worlds merging.
I can’t believe I missed that. When did that happen?
Hate that guy lol
@@spikejrb7572 they just showed a screenshot of his iron man review
@@theGEIone why
@Ben Holmes the Jar Jar Binks thing was about how Jar Jar is essential to the plot. And, you know, the movie doesn't have too much good stuff in it. I like him, but I get how you can find him annoying.
Something I’ve recently noticed: this is probably my favorite editing in all of UA-cam. Fits perfectly to the point where I can’t even understand how someone could get every single clip to match up with everything they say. Major props.
Where did the catchphrase "grab that gem" even come from? I love it
Guardians of the Galaxy
I was also wondering this so thank you for asking. And thank you Much Ado for answering.
episode 45 of The Weekly Planet podcast
"45 Guardians of the Friggan Galaxy!"
@@The8347135 really? I thought that it was from the very first episode or the first 5 of the podcast, Maso would keep saying that phrase and james would not like it and it just stayed as that.
I thought he says Gym
The Pikmin music and Bo Burnham reference during trivia killed me and I loved it. ❤😂
I heard that Pikmin music and was so confused where it was coming from
That “he considers himself already dead” section is such a good analysis of the character and it made me start crying.
Dam you're soft if you ACTUALLY started crying 😂
Typical MCU fangay
Let's give it up to the most influential movie about the America's 20 years of War in Afghanistan
Just wanted to say that I noticed and appreciated "Here we go again" at 22:05
I have always believed that RDJ would absolutely crush it in a Billy Joel biopic and this video has only served to cement that belief.
I wanted to add that the reporter lady Tony sleeps with in the beginning has various cameos in future MCU stuff, mostly those WHIH News segments on UA-cam, but it's still something pretty cool that stuck around after this first movie
Looking at Tony stark as a "man who knows he's on borrowed time" is actually super interesting and I might have to rewatch the movie he's in now through this lens
that's literally the only way to see the character they showed. it's how it was written.
@@Janzer_ not everyone is media literate though
"1st in, 1st out" hahaha I almost chocked on my food
The real Iron Man was the friends we made along the way
The arc reactor runs on FRIENDSHIP.
Yep.
@@KeithFraser82 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Friendship is magic. Your logic not only checks out, but proves My Little Pony is set in the MCU.
Best bit was "I am Ironman" and leaving behind the silly secret identity thing from comic books.
For everything they address they mess something else up in consistency lol its bound to happen with 23 films though
His secret identity was revealed in Iron Man (vol. 3) #55 (July 2002), six years before the first film.
Depends on the type of hero.
Tony, even as he becomes a better person, is too much of an egotist to be a superhero and not tell everyone about it.
And then he got his house bombed by an international terrorist.
Terrence Howard: *Next time, baby!*
Don Cheadle: *So anyways, I started blasting...*
It’s a real shame, I actually like Terrence Howard as Rhodey even if I’ve gotten used to Don. Some people only see dough.
My dad took me to see this movie opening day when I was about 7 years old, and we have gone to almost every MCU movie opening day since then. I have been watching these movies evolve for over half my life, and it's really interesting to go back again and see the humble origins of a franchise that has grown as large as this
Do the granddaddy of all modern action films, “Dirty Harry.”
20:42 jesus lads that tweet part has got to be the funniest thing I've seen on this channel hahahaha I'm in tears
I'm guessing that was Ben?
Ben-making-all-the-best-stuff am I right lads?
@@jliller Ben good but also James and Maso good. Great bunch of lads. Great mates, if you will.
I love how every mention of New Line Cinema is now accompanied by the theme of Mortal Kombat.
Anyone else remember how awful some of the news outlets were when they announced RDJ was going to play Iron Man? There were headlines and photos of RDJ locked up and on trial and bold words like “really? This guy?”
He wouldn't get the job in woke Hollywood.
Same with Heath Ledger playing Joker. Everyone was like "Really? That guy from the gay-cowboys-eating-pudding movie?!?! REEEEEEEEEE"
We can't know until we see it. And most of the time, it surprisingly works.
@@blackmantis3130 I mean there are a lot of troubled actors who still get work so…
@@WyattoonsComics yeah but now the scrutiny is much than 2008.one bad move and you are blacklisted.
I watched this for the first time the other day and honestly was so surprised how much I enjoyed it. I can't believe I slept on it for so long
I remember at the time how people online were going on about Marvels B team being made, now look at them!
When I was little kid, all I remember Iron Man from is the Marvel Superheroes fighting game. I was more familiar with War Machine because of the Spider-Man cartoon.
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"a great agent" and then cutting to Agent Coulson. I love it. The editing is so insanely good.
I want them to confirm that Rhodey is a skrul to explain his change in appearance.
Have you seen the WandaVision “They recast Rhodey meme?”
They might make a racist joke about Rhodey, which hints to why he was recast.
One thing that was melded into the marvel formula is "bad guy is just an evil version of protagonist"
Did Timothy Olyphant narrowly miss out on literally every role.
It’s such a shame that the mandarin will not fight iron man
Who told you that?
Eh he'll probably fight Ironheart and War Machine in Armour Wars or something
Yeah they blew that in 3
@@barryallen871 Iron Man is dead, he never fought the real Mandarin.
With the way they are doing the Mandarin now, it doesn't even matter anymore. the guy actually has arms rings! lol
“The truth is… I am stuff.”
The truth is. I am butt stuff
"Behold! My stuff!"
-Skurge, Thor: Ragnarok
I was in high school when this came out and I remember a friend who worked at a theatre telling me about the post credit scene and how they were going to set up other movies. That was really the only reason I went to see it.
-Caravan of garbage-
Caravan of a *bunch of scraps* !!!
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Superman/Spider-Man/Batman/most of the cast of Jupiter's Legacy/Various other superheroes: "I must not kill, ever, ever, no, not even if I really, really want to."
Iron Man: "We don't do that here."
If Tony hadn’t gone lethal those villagers would’ve died. I accept heroes killing if there’s literally no other freely available option.
@@li-limandragon9287 Right - this is how professional law enforcement or military organizations etc. (even non-trigger-happy ones) operate in hostage situations, when they're facing people with military weapons who're willing to kill, etc. The MCU has generally followed this principle, while showing the heroes generally being against shoot-first-ask-questions-later or warmongering attitudes (cf. the Helicarriers in Winter Soldier, mass-produced Iron Man suits, the plot of Black Panther, etc.). It makes sense since the MCU often places characters in effective or literal war situations rather than just having them fighting lone supervillains (cf. Captain America fighting in WW2, Tony Stark intervening in the Ten Rings' ISIS-style conquests, the plots of all the Avengers team-up films).
This was partly why I found all the hand-wringing in Jupiter's Legacy about one of the heroes killing a seemingly unstoppable supervillain to be absurd and unrealistic.
I love the practical-ness of all the suits. I love the helmet clanking down and somewhat accurateness of the science. Feels believable. The later nano masks and nano suits feel like magic and not so special.
More than any Marvel movie before it, Iron Man made an effort to ground the setting in reality. Watching it, you felt like the tech wasn't that far off, that everything happening could actually happen in real life. Marvel kept this grounding through many of its movies. Even the magical stories like Thor and Dr. Strange explained the magic away as "science" or the properties of the mind, respectively. (This is why the Snyderverse had so much trouble getting off the ground. If the MCU is sci-fi, the Snyderverse is mythic fantasy, dealing with gods and powers and intense formalistic symbolism. But people expected it to be like the MCU.) Anyway, I think it worked brilliantly for the MCU, and came to define the entire genre.
19:42 I’m confident that Jeff Bridges forgot the line here and then remembered it last second.
the funny thing is, it works because it makes him look like he is trying too hard to sound like tony's smartass.
Literally everyone who did a review of Mortal Kombat (The Knew Kombat) or a retrospective on UA-cam kicked off because they got copyright striked because of theme. And here we are... An Iron Man video and Ben puts it in!? Fearless. A hero. An iron hero.
Rich evans was left out of the picture with RLM lol. He can’t escape it
It’s because Rich Evans is just Mike Stoklasa’s hallucination
He's just too famous. Mr Sunday would start getting harassed by lawyers.
Dick the Birthday Boy
Whoever edited this deserves mad props for that ERJB clip
When I was a kid, I went to the movies to see things like The Shadow, The Rocketeer and The Phantom. I loved them all back then- and they all sort of promised that one day, there’d be something as cool as Iron Man. Imagine being a kid now and growing up on these? 🤯
For every Brit watching this, we felt that sarcastic “thanks Boris” more than you’ll ever know!
Nic Cage photoshopped into the iron man armor is the stuff of nightmares. So thanks for that.
Iron Man? What are Marvel playing at? A B character at best. This will never catch on.
Best suit. Best movie. The suit feels like a real tangible piece of tech. Watching him build the Mark II/III never gets old. Best part of the movie to me. The newer nanotechnology suits and CG mocap floating head suits all look like such ass.
Seriously if Tony had this suit in Civil War, Cap and Bucky would be paste.
I've seen all the Marvel movies but this is the only one I own on DVD.
An interesting note is that Thor 1 also had J Michael Strazynski on board (legendary TV showrunner and author of some of the best Thor and Spiderman arcs in the comics)
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What's important there is that in all honesty in this movie its really only Tony not taking it that seriously, everyone else is basically dead serious for most of it outside of a few moments, and I think that works well for it. When EVERYONE treats it like a joke it really takes you out of the world, but when a guy who, in universe, seems to be joking at least in part to deal with a lot of emotional stress isn't taking it that seriously it helps keep it grounded.
My issue with it now is that Marvel will often times ruin emotional moments with quips that don't need to be there. Just look at Black Widow and the grave scene.
I think the biggest breakthrough from this movie was the INT. TONY'S HELMET-DAY aspect. up to this point we only see the hero in a mask, this is what was bad about Spiderman, you couldn't see his face during the most dramatic moments. In Iron Man we got to go inside the helmet and watch Tony react to stuff, SO MUCH BETTER!
Please give me all of the iron man movies caravan of garbage 🙌🏻 also James I love your take about how Tony knows he’s been on borrowed time. That’s so true and you can hear it in his voice every time he talks about New York. Like he’s been seriously fucked up ever since the first avengers movie and it just keeps getting harder for him. Excellent take
Ironman 1 is my favourite marvel movie. It's so low stakes, so fun, really set the bar for the future of the MCU.
cosmonaut variety hour in a Mr Sunday video. I have taken this as an Easter egg and will be looking forward to your eventual collaboration.
Anyone noticed how when he's tweeting at 20:44 his profile pic is him opening his arms, which in-universe had probably happened like 10 minutes before? 😂😂
it’s amazing in retrospect that marvel was able to build this amazing universe with lets face it B and C level characters
Super interesting to think Tony knew he was on borrowed time... then Mason comes in "It was all a dream?" LOL
I always found it weird when these were coming out that people thought of Iron Man as a C-list character. Like, even if you weren't a comic book fan...the 90s animated series? Marvel Superheroes the arcade game? All those awesome Toybiz figures??
I’m glad you guys finally reviewed the famous Billy Joel song Iron Man (2008)
Another thing this movie established that more or less stuck around for most of the rest of the MCU: doing away with secret identities. With very few exceptions (Spiderman, and Daredevil if you count the Netflix series), most characters if they're not just using their normal given name, may at most be using a title or spy agency code name, but otherwise almost everyone is just going by or known by their normal identity most of the time.
That's only because most of the interactions don't involve civilians. Outside of Tony Stark (who outed himself on TV) or heroes that don't have secret identities like Thor or most of the Guardians of the Galaxy, they're referred to by their hero name in public. Even behind closed doors some heroes like Captain America (Cap) and Hawkeye are still referred to by their hero name often.
Pretty much every Earth hero still has a secret identity.
@@encycl07pedia- They may be more generally referred to by their hero name, but the point is almost no one is going out of the way to remain anonymous or hide their identity from the public. Steve Rogers is a household name and Bruce Banner is a role model by the end of phase 3. Spoilers for phase 4: John Walker did press tours when he assumed the Captain America title, and it was no secret who Sam Wilson was either, as Falcon or as the next Cap. They even make a point of noting that Wanda had no fancy super hero alias or code name till the end of WandaVision dubs her the Scarlet Witch. The idea of a secret identity being a closely guarded secret, and all the typical tropes usually associated with them are almost completely eschewed.
God just seeing this makes me realize im fucking old, was only 8 when this came out. Now im 21, its fucking incredible to think this will be looked at as history to people who never saw it in theaters.
"A quip and a joke, and a light of his smoke"
"And he's still in the navy-- except for Terrence Howard" LMAO
You know what, I'm fine with the helicopters and stuff being CGI'd now. Relying less on the Department of Defense has been to the benefit of these movies. They made Jon Favreau take a reference to military suicides out of the movie.
Now that it seems they need them less, they're more lenient with the scripts. Could you imagine them letting a character like John Walker into these movies back in 2008? It'd be impossible.
HE'S THE DUDE PLAYING A DUDE DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE !
Can you imagine if they'd tried to do the Demon In A Bottle story arc as a movie with Nick Cage?
"Jack Daniels....scrapin' at the doooor.....SCRAPIN' AT THE DOOOOORAAAAAAAAHHHHH!"
After 10 years of seeing Don Cheadle, it's always weird watching Iron Man and seeing Terrence Howard as Rhodey. It's still good, but upon rewatches you wonder what could have been or you forget that it's supposed to be the same character. I don't know if you could get away with a recast in Marvel movies these days, even for just a one movie appearance. There's James Rhodes, Bruce Banner, and Red Skull, but you forget that Red Skull even is a recast, so it's really just those first two, after that, if you played a character, you're that character for life. It's wild.
R.I.P. Mark Graham - May 19, 2009
Ben throwing shade at Mason for mishearing crops is amazing. Keep it up Ben!
All film studios since 2008: "MARVEL WAS ABLE TO BUILD A FRANCHISE IN A CAVE... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!"
9:22 Sling up a web, you're the Iron Man.
(12:46) That dude should have been wearing a glove because that mask would have been scalding hot after sitting in the sand as long as it did. That's always bothered me for some reason.....
Just found out my subscription also has their youtube videos. So thats nice.
Have you discovered the commentary tracks yet? You're in for a treat. Batman vs. Superman is legendary
@@angbald the WHAT
Welcome to the club. We are better than everybody else.
I love all the other movie UA-camrs the editor shouts out, I’ve seen redletter media, cosmonaut variety hour, high top films, just a bunch of the guys I love, now I get why I love your vids also
They didn’t even talk about the movie step by step lmao they just talked about behind the scenes.
At this point, it's a fairly reasonable assumption that anyone and everyone watching already knows the movie inside out . . .
Best editing of all the videos to date, well done editor 👏 👏 😂
We love Ben the editor
Iron Man/Tony Stark is still my favorite MCU Character
It always baffles me when people rag on Tony just because the egotism on the surface and don’t acknowledge his depths. He’s kind of fictional character Marvel does best, the flawed hero who improves himself along with world. Early Spider-Man comics are the same.
I had such a crush on RDJ when I saw this movie at 11, i am now 24 he was and is very handsome
Shoutouts to RedLetterMedia and Cosmonaut Variety Hour with 1 minute of each other? I see you, editor
Please next to cap series
My opinion : the cap films is the best trilogy
To be fair, Cap’s trilogy wouldn’t have be as awesome without Tony and the rest coming in for the third.
@@li-limandragon9287 I beg to differ , I love civil war but out of the three it’s my least favourite
@@chandy7072 Winter Soldier is in my top five but the then follow up Captain America Serpent Society wouldn’t have been as epic as Civil War. Russo Bros really made Cap’s trilogy the best.
I do really like First Avenger but there’s something about the Russos directing that’s truly special.
18:07 you gotta love ben 😂😂😂
I know you guys have your problems with playing videos games for Caravan of Garbage (that we won’t get into here) but I would love for your guys to play the Iron Man movie games one day. I have always said the Wii/PS2 version of the first one is just okay. And the second one is well just not great.
“From a white guy like me...”
I know you guys have probably already recorded for next week’s video, but I hope you guys talk about Chef (2014) with Iron Man 2. I feel like there’s a lot of parallels in Chef that can easily be applied to the critiques of Iron Man 2, as well as the studio interference and time constraints Favreau was under.