What Is Gas Station Heroin? The Dangers of Tianeptine
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2023
- What is Gas Station Heroin? Tianeptine, otherwise known as gas station Heroin and sold under the brand names Stablon and Coaxil, is a tricyclic antidepressant that is used mainly in the treatment of major depressive disorder, although it may also be used to treat anxiety. Recover from addiction by calling me: (800) 779-4715
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The most addictive thing I ever got from a Gas station is Alcohol .
That can pretty addicting, just saying! 😜
Alcohol is my downfall. It destroys your life and takes away everything. Been in recovery for over 20 years but have had a few falls due to Major Depressive Disorder. I look at friends I used to drink with in my 20’s and they look like they’ve aged in dog years.
Don't forget cigarettes, my friend!
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I never understood why a gas station would sell alcohol seems counter intuitive
Beer and wine and tobacco are the most addictive substances I ever got at a gas station .
Have you never tried lot lizards ?
My dad (25 year truckdriver) has 😂
It's the sweets even kids are doing em
Fentanyl is the worst it will drop u dead the 1st time u use it
Sugar beats them all
I've never heard of this. As someone who has recovered from substance issues, I really think our society would benefit if we can find a balance of mild options for people. Other than just "alcohol". I really think issues would improve if people had mild options in our society compared to right now where everything is bad, it creates a climate where people go to extreme lengths to get/obtain any kind of relief. Where that shouldn't be the situation that we have going on.. we gotta find a way to balance somethings and understand it can impact the overall substance abuse issue problem in the greater population as a whole. It may seem counter intuitive but it's unrealistic to think that "providing no options for people will eliminate the issue" that's clearly not the outcome that occurs and we have been learning that for years and years now. Hopefully we can find a improved direction to head in and a better approach towards handling this issue.
Lol, some of us wanted the strongest option all along. Less restriction wouldnt have saved me from my heroin addiction
@@chrism4008 well if you’re an idiot but their are serious ppl who jus wanna feel normal and would benefit immensely from the regulation of these drugs. Bit selfish don’t ya think coming from a past addict? Well you’re probably just scared.
@@chrism4008 neither would more restrictions. If people want things then they will get it one way or the other. Never in history has making something illegal solved addiction problems. Trust me I know, I’m a former opioid addict.
@@deankilminster5430 well, i didn't say that so 🤷♂️
Exactly right
Use to listen to this dr years ago for heroin withdrawal help now here i am 6 years clean and i see him still helping others❣️ What a beautiful soul thank you sir
I advocate for the public to have the option to make informed decisions. “Just say no” has never and will never work. Drugs won the war. I hope more people can approach these subjects with a balanced and objective perspective to really inform others rather than persuade them.
Maybe not for you. It's worked for me and I have two heroin addicted parents. Saying no does work
Thankfully I have never struggled with the desire to try illegal substances that almost guarantee addiction.
Saying no worked for me. I don't fully understand how it couldn't work unless someone held you down and forced the substances into your body.
@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 unfortunately, I’ve heard that happens a lot more than we might want to believe for many young girls. But I otherwise agree with what you are saying.
@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 you may not be the most curious person when it comes to feelings within the body.
Tianeptine is the worst withdrawal I have ever experienced hands down, and I’ve experienced em all. Nothing holds a candle.
Pure hell
Have you been on an antidepressant or something in the class of Xanax or class of Adhd medication such as Adderall for decades and the doctor tapers you off of it in a month? Literally, Adderall xr 25mg for over a decade and the slow progression thereof with lower doses for five years prior...? That is a f😱cking nightmare.
The threatening drug they are talking about is used everywhere else on this earth for depression and anxiety with the exception of the USA. All of sudden it is a threat after FOUR DEATHS?! Are you Joking?! It is a threat to the pharmaceutical companies and an insult to our government because they do not control over it and want to profit from it Desperately!!!
Sorry you had to suffer through the withdrawals from it...Try drinking strong ass coffee for six months and stop and then tell me which withdrawal hurt the most.
What kills me is they sell alcohol which kills how many people a day and observe what the withdrawal symptoms are pertaining to it and the aforementioned...Yes, I see an agenda.
Never heard of it
Can't be worse than $100 heroin habit 💉..... Stop it.
@@ATLTravelerdon't try it man, you will most definitely regret it. I stumbled across it on UA-cam and I was warning also, but I did it anyway. The withdrawal happens VERY fast and is worse than ANY opiate or opioid on the planet hands down. Just Please don't do it, you'd be better off getting on heroine, no joke.
Really glad I found this channel.. finally facts instead of biased speculation.
Thank You
This addiction doctor knows his stuff 💯💯 thank you for educating us
Thank you for watching
Yae I wish he was my sub doctor I would ve off of them bye now
@@michaelblack1925 you do know you can tell your bupe dr that you want to taper off of it. You’re still on it because of your inaction. He’s not gonna stop you if you don’t tell him you want to be off. SMH you act like your still on suboxone due to your dr. Like he’s forcing it under your tongue. You’re still on it because of your mind set. Stop blaming the dr for your problems
@justinbieltz5903 OH wow is that so ...thanks for telling me this , I find it to be real funny that you would make this assumption and you don't even know what Dr I'm talking about .And it shows how you judge people you don't know , you have know clue why im on it in the frist place .Alot of Dr's hand this pill out like it's candy and when it's time to get off of it they have zero plan to tell you on how to do it .Thats why I said this because you can tell this Dr is not one of those Dr's. But I appreciate the shtty comment and the judgment you made about me from a comment .
@@DrBAddictionRecoverywish I could sit down and talk to you for a hr sometime.
Love this guy, could listen to him talk all day,so informed!!
Him and Hamilton Morris 😊
Thanks guys Dr. B. Hamilton is a nerd. I am much cooler :)
Tianeptine is registered as an antidepressant here in Serbia.
Thank you
The usa wants everything illegal except alcohol
It is an antidepressant. It’s just that at high doses it starts to have opioid effects.
In Germany too but it's cheap AF online 100gr 65€
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I'm in recovery. And I use to abuse kratom and alcohol quite a bit. I had been takeing 50 grams a day and about a 12er for about 4 years. I definitely was addicted. I'm 18 days sober. I will not go back ever.
You can keep going on the right path!!! I've been a heroin addict for years,but I've stayed clean for 3years now !!! I've got alot faith in you!! Please keep up the great work your doing!!!❤🙏✌️
@@walkertexasranger1514 day 52.
Use it for chronic pain since pain clinics are criminals & power hungry & treat me like a 2 year old telling me to bring back empty bottles & piss in a cup every month another money making scam.
@@Emulation_Inflation proud of you homie! Did it start getting noticeably easier after a bit? I've got a kratom habit I need to get in check
@@jonnorris8557 Yes it did for sure! Day 58. Sober as hell. Not a craving what so ever. AA and NA really help along with therpy has had an impact. Kratom isn't as hard as pills and harder stuff but you definitely withdraw pretty bad.
Serotonin syndrome is a really horrible thing. Be careful out there y all.
No joke bro for real. Everyone calls themselves and insomniac and I just look around too tired to even talk about it wondering what it's like to sleep 8 hours a night
Imagine being so happy that your brain rots and dies and no longer becomes happy
This i got long term Adderall abuse overdose that was that and it took like 3 days to wear off after it set in
@@lindamcclellan9597 no one in my life has any clue how horrifying insomnia is. my insomnia is why im an addict. its destroyed my life honestly and all these big pharma drugs has just made everything worse
@@user-oj9ed2it9iyeah its ruined my life too. My sleep cocktail is currently 200-300mg of seroquel and .2mg clonidine. But I’m always so dopey in the morning- some times it’s hard to get going.
Brilliant again Dr B.
I am from Scotland and wish I had someone like yourself to talk to. We have a pretty bad opiate problem here in the U.K. I genuinely like your posts, Doctor. Thank you.
Hi!! Always great if catch your post. And thank you. Stay safe and healthy🙏🙏
The opiate problem is prohibition. Stop trying to make illegal substances our bodies naturally produce. It would be like if yall made insulin illegal. You think diabetics aren't gonna find a black market source to feel better and function and enjoy life? Chronic pain doesn't get treated anymore so we are forced to the streets
Man it’s rampid here in USA GA. Now fentanyl has arrived bigger than ever and it’s in X pills , white, fake pressed pills like perc 10mg , Xanax , and roxi 30mg pills. It’s killing ALOT of people and people that are not addicted but young people experimenting, it’s murder 😢
I loved traveling in Scotland. Great people, beautiful land, amazing accents, and humor.
I'm from the U.K.. (England)
& You're completely right. It's a huge problem. I'm on methadone. x.
I missed your live cast held on May 27th ; super bummed. I hope to find it here on UA-cam. I really enjoy your videos; you seem compassionate, not putting down addicts like many.
We will recover.
Thank you Dr. B
Strong!!
Thank you for all your info!!
Im a IV poly-addict that has been in recovery & clean for 7yrs now thanks to MAT & getting pregnant at 26. I love learning & now that I'm in recovery I'm working on my mental health which means mixing in the psych meds. I don't like being this medicated but I'm also a great mom who bought her own home, I used to be strung out & homeless junkie just under a decade ago. I know I will have to slowly taper each down if I want to get off.
Wishing you the best!! ❤
I’m on MAT as well! And it’s been working great for me too!
Good luck
@@shaquille_0atmeal69_ MAT? may i ask how did or does it help you? Earlier when I saw someone say Mat & getting pregnant my dumbass thought she was talking about her man lol .tks
How Did MAT work for you?
Dr B. I struggled with Heroin, Alcohol,Crack, K2 & benzo addiction for 25yrs and by the grace of God 3yrs ago I found Recovery. I probably tried to get Sober 25times. My Addiction got worse n worse and I fully believe addiction is progressive and fatal. The last 15 yrs of my active addiction where really bad. I was homeless, 140lbs(I'm usually 240), had shingles on my head, hep c, septic infection in my ankle and I was in the worst emotional, mental, and physical pain I could possibly be. I was going through bad psychosis towards the end of my active addiction and at some points was even confused on what my name was. I had a very spiritual experience that expelled the "obsession" of using and gave me a glimmer of hope. Alot of great things have happened for me in the past 3yrs. I have become certified in NY as a CARC(Certified Addiction Recovery Coach) and Peer Advocate. I do not work in a facility but have grown my own coaching Business through social media and word of mouth. I have found Passion and fulfillment in life where the addiction left a hole in my soul. I know from personal experience that if I can get Sober, anyone can. I rarely come across someone who has experienced as much loss, trauma and pain as I endured. 12-step(AA) Recovery is a big part of my Recovery and I am a big advocate for ppl having a program to use to get them on the right track, especially when it comes to making a spiritual connection. I believe the spiritual aspect of Recovery gets over looked a lil when it comes to treatment. To be honest, right now none of the ppl I Coach follow 12step Recovery but I do try to help them understand the spiritual principles associated w the steps and help them implement the principles into their lives if they are willing. I try my best to remain teachable and open-minded when it comes to addiction and recovery. I learn so much from you and your channel. I am so grateful to have come across you and your views and facts on addiction and recovery. My channel is geared towards those in Recovery who really want to strive for success in all aspects of life, cause putting down the drugs and alcohol is only 10% of recovery, the other 90% is changing our attitude and behaviors and for me, that came through working the 12 steps and becoming really active in Recovery. My change came through Pain. I needed to experience all the pain n misery I did to get me to the point of surrendering. My question is do you think that someone can fully recover from Addiction if they haven't really experienced any consequences or real pain(whether emotional, mental, or physical)??? Also we have a Podcast, me n my amazing girlfriend Veronica, the SoberSuccess 🎙️ Podcast,it's on UA-cam, Spotify and all platforms. I would absolutely love to have you on my show for an interview in the future if that would be possible??? Thanks again Dr. B for all the videos and information, you Help me on a Daily Basis... If you would like to see what I'm about, my homepage for SoberSuccess Coaching is: www.pensight.com/x/mikeybuns25
Thanks again and you have a beautiful blessed day✌️♥️🙏💪🤜🤛
Thank you Dr. B this is the most informative video on this stuff yet. I really appreciate the time youve put into making this and the research as well.
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I had never heard of this stuff until your video just now. Pretty disconcerting.
Thank you for this informative video.
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I'm a 57 yr old addict in recovery and I never heard of this? I've been therapeutically detoxing from methadone ( 17mgs and counting down) after about 9 years of of methadone maintenance and before that opiate addiction/abuse. I feel lucky I sought treatment before the fentanyl epidemic and all the other "Designer drugs" out now. I've seen so many young people die and OD and I don't judge because I know if you're going through withdrawals ( IF I WAS FKN DOPE SICK) I'd be fast to take something to feel normal. But I see these people nodding out, homeless, destitute and many in their 20s!
With God's help and support I hope to be done with the methadone ASAP and am grateful it's available but so many kids got on methadone treatment for a Vicodin, Percocet, ECT addiction.... They needed help/ detox/ rehab but not methadone....talk about over prescribing... God bless you all. Peace ✌️
People that are addicted to Vicodin can use methadone successfully however, I agree they should be on very very low doses compared to the Vicodin and yes, methadone clinics are notorious for over prescribing methadone. The methadone is a great medication for somebody in detox, if given the right amount, and they are tapered off of it. Slowly, I have seen some methadone treatment centers that actually increase dosage overtime that’s not what it’s for but they do it
How did you go with withdrawing from methadone?
I'm from Baltimore and I'm on methadone also and I don't like the synthetic fentanyl they sell as dope now.. it makes me feel weird and not good..
Man using this to help getting off methadone is a very bad idea, in case you've thought about it. It's jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. The withdrawal from this is worse than methadone. I know because I jumped off the methadone program at 170 mg a day.
@@rudyferrell reduce your dose to as low as possible before jumping off , those liquid handcuffs withdrawal symptoms last for 3 months, but the 1st month is really bad.
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💜hi,
Wow , thank you.
I'm sitting here listening, and getting more and more frightened.
But I'm hoping, with you, that knowledge is power for me at 62yrs old.
This is crazy!!!
Lol I’m not far behind at 52. And you nailed one of my ambitions. Promote knowledge and critical thought as it truly liberates🙏🙏
I'll just stick with kratom. Kratom got me off pain meds for my spinal injuries I sustained in the Army. It's great. I have been on kratom for 2 years now. I don't wake up feeling like shit anymore. I've been able to workout again since I made the switch to kratom. It sucked for a couple weeks because its a partial opioid receptor agonist and I had some withdrawal while making the switch but it's literally been a life changer for me. I know you can still OD on kratom but hell you can OD on Tylenol and even water.
Edit:
I don't suggest anyone take kratom unless they are already on pain meds or opioids and want to get off of them. Its kind of like Suboxone for addicts who want to get off opioids except it works for people who suffer with chronic pain and want to get off opioids. Though kratom has also helped many addicts quit heroin and fentanyl. The powers that be want it outlawed because it's causing huge losses to big pharma and pharmaceutical companies would like to make a medical patient using kratom so they can make money off it themselves. They don't care about anyone's health so take negative things you read on kratom with a grain of salt. You never know who's behind it.
Also when I go a day or two without it to lower my tolerance the withdrawals are nothing compared to pain pills.
I've got the best kratom rn it's called tiger penis and afghan gold
@@SkarKingg of fuck where did you get it?
Kratom can be as addictive as opiates.
Some people HORRIBLY struggle with trying to stop taking it.
Just keep this in mind so you don't end up finding yourself hurting in a bad way friend.
I've been on Kratom for over 8 years and it's a lifesaver. Have gone on several occasions without it and the withdrawal is not even in the same ballpark as opiates, although there were a few companies caught adding tramadol to their products for better pain killing properties so it's possible there were other "additives" more than likely causing the hard withdrawal for some. Thought this video was going to be about Kratom at first as well.
Hi doctor B, you have been one of the most useful and interesting subscriptions I've ever made. Me and my addiction nurse are aways watch8ng your videos. Thank you very informative and helpful. :)
Thank you for the support. It means so much to me
Props for covering tianeptine, my friends and i found out about it around 2014 when it became super easy to buy high quality tianeptine online. Two of my friends got horribly addicted to it, my one friend basically withdrew from society completely for 2 years due to it and almost died. Its very addictive and has serious withdrawals. I ended up hooked on kratom instead, but that was a huge problem for me as well. Suboxone basically saved all of our lives
Thanks for sharing
Suboxone on one hand is awesome and saves a lot of lives but withdrawal from it is the worst. I'd take opiate withdrawal anyday. If i could go back I'd never touch a sub
@@a7xfanforever556 I can taper myself off of suboxone slowly without relapsing. I can't wean myself off of kratom, or any other opioid, without constantly slipping up. Probably the long duration and non abuse potential. But it just works better for me, I deal with the withdrawals when I lower my dose with exercise and cannabis.
How exactly did Suboxone save you from kratom? I mean seriously. The withdrawal from Suboxone would be far worse than kratom. Is it just accessiblity or what?
@@stephen8996 read my last comment, I explained why. But also, the withdrawals from kratom are a lot worse than Suboxone for me. Being on kratom is completely unmanageable for me, while on Suboxone I've been able to taper myself down from 16mg/day to 4mg/day without ever relapsing, missing a day of work, not being able to take care of my daughter, etc. It's just not even comparable, my life has been way better since I got on subs
I was glad to see that AKA was able to show Mississippi lawmakers the difference between kratom and tianeptine. Tianeptine was banned as it should be.
Yeah I can see them just viewing them as them same.
I e been a daily user of Kratom for 15 years.. I was addicted to heroin fir several years before Kratom.. kratom helped me off heroin … it’s a different addiction.. but.. I’ve never overdosed on Kratom.. never will,.. and as long as I have it.. I can function daily , I’d like to get off it altogether,, but the trade off was definitely worth it
@@drainmonkeys385 I wish kratom was able to help me get off methadone. But, it just hardly does a thing to help with the super long half-life and strength of methadone. I mean I'm still doing it the right way and working on getting off, but I wish I was introduced to kratom 15 years ago. Maybe I could have used it to quit too...... Your lucky man lol
@@drainmonkeys385 many of us used heroin in Iraq during the war. Just turned into a big mess
Working on kicking kratom now. Hopefully it won't be as bad as the harder stuff, but I had some really bad withdrawal symptoms waking up the other day and I had been taking it. Couldn't keep a dose down and was sick all day. Now I am weenimg off of it.
Really appreciate your videos Dr. B. Stay safe and healthy out there Sir.
My pleasure Dr. B
You too please
Very informative, Doctor. Thank you.
Pleasure
This stuff sound awesome. Thanks for the info. Going to grab some right now.
Dont
Dr B- We gotta get you to the gym! You need to start hitting the weights my man! Love u bro!
I used around 500 grams of tianeptine from 2014 to 2016, for hyperacusis and trigeminal neuralgia pain alleviation and it's neuroplasticity enhancing effects and neuroprotection. I went through cold turkey withdrawal around a dozen times from it and it did give me an opioid high, at doses of 75mg and over taken. I began using it right a couple months before a research paper came out in July 2014 that it hits the opioid receptors. Initially it caused me also constipation to a degree of appendicitis that actually ruptured.
Whoa.
Constipation doesn't cause appendicitis, appendicitis can cause constipation though because the pain stops people from pushing.
Tianeptine (Stablon, Coaxil, Tatinol). Tianeptine satisfies criteria for making it a nootropic: builds neuroplasticity; is neuroprotective and an excellent antioxidant. It has an excellent safety profile. Remarkably, tianeptine acts as an extraordinary anti-inflammatory and thus used in applications ranging from asthma, irritable bowel disorder to fibromyalgia. All that for the price of admission! It’s also indicated in addiction & withdraws, narcolepsy and some forms of ALS.
Europeans have a number of psychotropic compounds available to them that, for corporate protectionism by US Federal bureaucrats, they will probably never be able to use in the United States. Another "French" option is amineptine's cousin, tianeptine (Stablon). Tianeptine is an atypical antidepressant that exhibits structural similarities to the tricyclic antidepressants but has distinct neurochemical properties. It exhibits impressive wide-reaching biological effects and is now used in the treatment of depression , depression with erectile dysfunction, treatment-resistant depression , depression with alcoholism, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). What makes it particularly notable is its tolerability and excellent safety profile , with a relative lack of sedative, anticholinergic and cardiovascular adverse effects. It is not primarily metabolized by the hepatic cytochrome P450 system, indicating less likelihood of drug-drug interactions; this is of particular interest for elderly patients.
In summary, tianeptine shows efficacy against serious depressive episodes (major depression), comparable to amitriptyline, imipramine, sertraline (Zoloft) , paroxetine (Paxil) and fluoxetine (Prozac), but with significantly fewer side effects. It was shown to be more effective than maprotiline in a group of people with co-existing depression and anxiety. Like many antidepressants (including bupropion, the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, the serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, moclobemide and numerous others) it may also have a beneficial effect on cognition in people with depression-induced cognitive dysfunction. Tianeptine has been found to be effective in depression in Parkinson's disease and in post-traumatic stress disorder of which it was as safe and effective as fluoxetine (Prozac) and moclobemide. “The antidepressant efficacy and favourable tolerability and pharmacokinetic profiles of tianeptine in patients with depression, including those with associated anxiety, have been proven; the data indicate that it may have additional potential in specific subgroups of depressed patients such as the elderly and those with chronic alcoholism ”
Tianeptine works by central neuronal remodeling and the restoration of neuronal plasticity . Like many other Nootropics, it is neuroprotective, acts as a powerful antioxidant in the CNS, and has been shown to protect the brain from radiation-induced damage. In one study, it was shown to enhance inter-hemispheric communication & thus, creativity; whereas the SSRI fluoxetine (Prozac) impairs it!
Tianeptine also has anticonvulsant and analgesic effects, and a clinical trial in Spain that ended in January 2007 has shown that tianeptine is effective in treating pain due to fibromyalgia. Notably, tianeptine also exhibits antinociceptive effects & anti-inflammatory properties: “Adrenergic transmission is also involved in tianeptine-induced analgesia for both facilitated and acute pain. The combination of tianeptine and cyclooxygenase-2 inhibitor may provide additional benefits for the management of inflammatory pain. ” Specific success has been discovered in using tianeptine to protect against HIV-associated dementia by suppressing the pro-inflammatory effects of the HIV virus. Some studies report tianeptine’s ability to attenuate oxidative stress within crucial brain structures and have a protective effect against stress-induced neuronal damage & remodeling including the inhibition of pathological stress-induced changes in glutamatergic neurotransmission in the amygdala and hippocampus.
Microdialysis studies revealed that tianeptine increased the levels of 5-HT and NE in the spinal dorsal horn [These are nociceptor afferents for the reception of peripheral pain]. These findings suggest that tianeptine may be effective for the management of neuropathic pain and that its analgesic mechanism is exerted by increased levels of 5-HT and NE in the synaptic cleft at the spinal level.
Neuroprotective effects are a key parameter of the Nootropic treatment model. Tianeptine is a neuroprotective antidepressant that reverses the neuronal damage and lasting misery caused by uncontrolled stress. Chronic stress causes dysphoria by inducing corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF2) receptor stimulation of dynorphin release. The endogenous opioid peptide dynorphin activates the unpleasant kappa opioid receptors. Tianeptine acts both as a non-sedating anti-anxiety agent and a non-stimulating mood-brightener. Its use increases extracellular dopamine concentration in the nucleus accumbens and, at higher doses, in the frontal cortex. Uniquely in clinical medicine, tianeptine acts as a selective serotonin reuptake enhancer; other systems have concluded it affects the glutamatergic system.
One biochemical investigation determined that the beneficial underlying biochemical changes - enhancements to neuroplasticity - are more complete following tianeptine treatment than they are following treatment with SSRI’s. Neuroplasticity refers to the ability of neurons and neural networks in the brain to adjust functionally and structurally to stimulation, new information, damage, and dysfunction. Tianeptine therapy increases hippocampal neurogenesis and decreases hippocampal apoptosis, and chronic tianeptine treatment may prevent shrinkage of dendrites in the hippocampus and growth of dendrites in the amygdala.
Only after psychiatric medicine evolved past the older monoamine paradigm and began to appreciate the Nootropic effects upon neuroplasticity did this drug start to make sense. Like Nootropic styled antidepressants, tianeptine's therapeutic action presumably depends on downstream adaptations & eventually growth between and within mesocorticolimbic system neurons occurring over a period of several weeks. Chronic tianeptine use reverses stress-induced hippocampal dendritic atrophy and amygdaloid dendritic hypertrophy, and stress-induced damage to the prefrontal cortex, thereby rewiring key brain systems and increasing cognitive performance. Like other good nootropics, the efficacy of tianeptine is largely related to a promotion of synaptic plasticity. This may be achieved by regulating the excitatory amino acid systems that are responsible for changes in the strength of synaptic connections as well as enhancing brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) expression.
Tianeptine restores stress-induced reduction of dendritic arborization in hippocampal neurons. Moreover, tianeptine reverses stress-induced inhibition of long-term potentiation at excitatory synapses in the hippocampus and prefrontal cortex. …tianeptine is an efficacious µ-opioid receptor (MOR) and d-opioid receptor (DOR) agonist…
Several studies concluded that tianeptine acts as a serotonin reuptake enhancer; or Selective Serotonin Reuptake Enhancer (SSRE) . In contrast to most SSRIs and tricyclic antidepressants, tianeptine modestly enhances the mesolimbic release of dopamine and potentiates CNS D2 and D3 receptors. It has an anxiolytic effect because it has a dibenzodiazepine nucleus. , It can also inhibit stress-induced neuronal changes in the central nervous system.
Currently, tianeptine is also being used in the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea & ulcerative colitis having proved itself in both efficacy and tolerability. Tianeptine treatment attenuates ethanol withdrawal syndrome in ethanol addiction , and helps overcome neuronal damage to the CNS and mollify pain associated with morphine withdrawal. It has also successfully treated narcolepsy ; cognitive impairment, depression & anxiety in the elderly; depression in Parkinson’s patients; the familial form of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (FALS); attention-deficit hyperactivity syndrome (ADHD);
Tianeptine has also been found to be very effective in the treatment of asthma. A 52-week study with asthmatic children found great success in ameliorating symptoms and increasing lung function. Two years earlier, they had found a close, positive association between free serotonin in plasma and severity of asthma in symptomatic persons. As tianeptine was the only agent known to both reduce free serotonin in plasma and enhance uptake in platelets, they decided to use it to see if reducing free serotonin levels in plasma would help. By November 2004, there had been two double-blind placebo-controlled crossover trials and a >25,000 person open-label study lasting over seven years, all showing effectiveness.
Because it is chemically similar to amineptine, liver enzyme tests might be warranted. However, this author can find now credible evidence of hepatotoxicity. A recent analysis demonstrated where SSRI’s typically fails in the treatment of depression, tianeptine succeeds. But the precise molecular mechanisms are obscure. Tianeptine/Stablon is not licensed in North America primarily because its patent has expired thus prohibiting the massive corporate price exploitation indicative to doing business in the USA. In other words, Tianeptine cuts into the profits of more expensive drugs currently on patent.
[I wrote a medical text on psychiatric drugs. Please msg me for citations. UA-cam blocks the posting of URLs.]
@@markhuntermdhank you! Good to know why all my posts with citations disappeared! I just took psychopharmacology in graduate school. It’s my favorite subject, besides neurobiology.
That's crazy bro I started using around the same time. Months before that paper came out. It just turned me into a depraved drug addict. Got addicted to all sorts of things after that and now I'm stuck on kratom since I got off years ago
I knew from forums like blue light tho and all my symptoms matching opiate withdrawal that it was likely an opioid. I never tried them prior, I thought I was trying an SSRE for depression
I wanted to say I've been on Buprenorphine for a couple years now. I actually started it after I was all done having withdrawals. About 6 years after. We've used it to treat this constant depressive state with memories and almost PTSD like symptom. I can honestly say it feels like the first antidepressant that has ever worked for me. It seems to correct all of the issues I had before that led me to drug abuse. To me Buprenorphine(suboxone) is a psychiatric medication to me.
I've takin care of babies born addicted to that and its nasry!
Dude stop taking it and you'll wish you were dead bup is a monster
Kudos for your recovery! Suboxone saved me too and im still on it. 4 years and im so grateful for the option. But can you tell me if you are experiencing tooth decay? If so...do you think its related to suboxone? Looks like they finally admitted it causes tooth decay although they denied it for years. What are your thoughts on that?
@@annhenry6893I've been on it 4 and a half years and yes it does.. wait 20 minutes and brush your teeth always.. just delt with a bunch of dental work due to it and doctors and dentists have confirmed it to me.. never knew till about a year or so ago and then I started asking questions.. but the medication is the reason I am still alive
@@MaddHeather thanks! Me too!! And every one i know thats on it. I appreciate the advice.....
These gas stations have a long history of selling all kinds of things like this. Bath salts
(recreational designer drugs) come to mind. And now a lot of these dangerous drugs can be bought online.
Thank you for putting out the word. You do good work.
Take it off the market, then people will just od on fentanyl. People should be allowed to put what they want in their bodies. If they don't do their research than it's their fault. Legalize regulate educate
Bath salts, kratom, this zaza stuff, k2/spice, gas station extasy, drinkable liquid benzos, it's really kinda crazy.
I just found your channel so if you already covered this topic disregard but you should look into the athletic supps market especially some of the preworkouts including things like DMAA & DMHA = extasy related compounds if I remember correctly on top of a bunch of other chems that can't be good and have horrible side effects.. everytime one of the compounds gets banned they just add an oxygen molecule or something to alter it enough for it to now be technically a new compound, they then rush the new formulation back into the market.
@@pyromaestro dmaa is just a stimulant it has nothing to do with extasy. They used to put it into pre-workout but stopped because some people overdid it and had heart attacks. You can still buy it online just not in supplement stores anymore.
They also sell cigarettes and alcohol. Know the addiction rates on that? People can not pick that shit up, it’s always an option.
Let’s blame gas stations. Those bastards.
@Pasquale Palabras same
Best channel ever thank you!
Thank you
Thank you for actually talking about the neuropharmacology of the substance. I have seen many "medical" videos about it but they never bother mentioning the actually important information - does it hit opioid receptors, which ones, etc. I wouldn't call them "opiate" receptors any more, though, as we know of multiple compounds that bind to the same receptors that have nothing to do with opium poppies. And things like mitragynine (in kratom) are agonists of multiple opioid receptors while being an antagonist of mu receptors which significantly changes its danger level. I'm less worried about mu agonists being addictive than I am about the fact its the mu opioid receptor that can suppress breathing and substantially increase risk of death from stopping respiration. I was curious about tianeptine but it actually sounds like bad news. Thanks for the real information!
Now when will someone come up with a 'dietary supplement' that can stimulate oxytocin production or bind oxytocin receptors?
I battled addiction to hardcore opioids nearly a decade ago. I’ve also battled severe recurring depression my entire life. I’ve been using a low dose of tianeptine for several months and while I wouldn’t say that it’s cured my depression I can say that it has reduced the severity of the symptoms more so than any other medication I’ve used.
I greatly appreciate your report on this drug though because while I’m able to go weeks without it sometimes I have seen others who use ZaZa Red and can’t go a single day without multiple bottles.
It is indeed effective for depression and I do not deny. Thank you for sharing
How are things for you 6 months later? I started out like you, too.
@@B_Bodziak I’ve been using it for over a year. The sodium works well at a low dose of 6mg 3x/day.
I use the sulfate or free acid at around 12-24mg for times where I need an extra “boost”.
I’ve gone weeks without it with no withdrawal symptoms other than the obvious effect on my mood, but I’m bipolar and have BPD combined with chronic treatment resistant depression.
All in all, I wish we had access to it through a doctor, but I’m grateful that I could easily order it online.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery Any theories on why someone who successfully stopped high doses of tianeptine 24/7 for 18 months only to suddenly start testing positive for tianeptine 3 full years later?
Long-term opioid use changes your brain. Whatever you do, do not increase your dose.
Very good information! The legal gas station garbage has done a lot of damage in the past... there were the "bath salts", "spice" and other products. I watched my grandson become a victim and he has been schizophrenic and very suicidal since then... almost 15 years ago. He lives with me and has terrible hallucinations and urges to hurt people which scares him so badly. He actually asked his mom and me to handcuff him at night so he wouldn't hurt anyone. It's heartbreaking. My friend's daughter signed herself out of the hospital mental ward and next morning she jumped in front of a train. She had been using spice. When the train stopped 1/2 mile up the road she was plastered to the front of the engine. Another friend's nephew overdosed and died from bath salts. His name was Jim Bob and we called him "Jim Bob Square Pants". He was a very sweet and good guy. Shame on the government which allows such things to be available especially to the youth.
But yet they keep weed illegal.. the government wants us addicted reliant on the government and or dead. The government dose not have your best interest in mind.. the government needs to be destroyed per the constitution and new guard installed. This is also why we have the second amendment..
I think he needs Jesus Christ. ❤
Thats heartbreaking. Had my own bad experiences with bath salts and spice as a teen, got lucky it didnt mess me up like it did him. I'll keep him in prayer and wish you all the best
God this is heartbreaking.. I actually know a few people who have gone completely insane from bath salts and seeing their transformation over the years is just unbelievable.. I even have a friend who stabbed and killed his mom several years ago because he was using bath salts.. and the crazy thing is he was actually a really nice dude..
@@firstinlastoutJesus Christ does nothing for schizophrenia lol
I had been addicted to Tianeptine. I call it Tia. I'm off it now for a few years and on methadone. I'm on methadone for a heroin/ fentanyl addiction. Anyway the Tia was absolutely horrible to be dependent on because of its short half life, I'd have to dose every 2 hours!! Or go through Hell! Imagine having to find an excuse every two hours to go eat some white powder.. not easy. And hiding it on you at all times. The short half life means massive increase in tolerance in a short time so you end up taking hundreds of dollars of it a week. Stay away from anything with opioid activity if your like me.. I guess I knew it was a horrible idea.. but I was addicted to drugs. Anyways have a great day!
Does it cause euphoria?? I've been struggling with depression and loneliness etc and I was wondering if tianeptine is good for Self medicating?? Will it make all ones problems go away!! If so than I don't mind being addicted. They sell it over the counter so it can be too physically or psychologically addictive.
@@andrewortiz5797 dude are you not watching the video or reading people experience with it? You will only feel it temporarily than it’ll feel worse. Your tolerance will immediately increase and you’ll be spending tons of money on it. It’s just like heroin. Would you go self medicate on that? I hope not because I’ve struggled with addiction for the last 16 years and man is it horrible
@@andrewortiz5797 drugs arent the answer bro.
@@Alienspecies635 I've been Thinking about this alot but before I go deeper into bad habits I'm going to try mushrooms. My friend was telling me how it changed his Life so I'm going to give it a go and see what happens.
@@Rites455 They aren't the answer, yes I know but pain sucks.
I’m truly enjoying his tenuous grasp of the English language.
I read about a study where they looked at the harm done by EVERY drug and EVERY type of damage. Career, family, relationship, physical, mental, economic etc. looked at Meth, opiates, cannabis, alcohol lsd, shrooms, ecstasy ETC. The most damage of the most category was alcohol.
That is very true and very well known. Check out WHO data
Thank you for covering this topic. Very important to keep away from our children.
My pleasure
I've been staying away from my children since I saw this also. Thank you Doc 🙏
Sounds like great stuff!
Bliss bath salts sold at gas stations years ago was one of the most potant speeds I ever used.
freeway rick ross’ fire ant killer. 200 mg vials for 15 bucks. snort half of it and you’re enjoying a speedy euphoric 10 hour high. i think it was butylone anD MDPV. NEVER BEEN HORNIER IN MY LIFE.
This is so freaking scary. People buy it at a GAS STATION and it ends up in someone’s blood stream. There’a something really scary about that.
You could say the same thing about alcohol. Certainly kills more people through abuse than any illegal narcotic not to mention the giant amount of alcohol related deaths and other casualties whether drunk driving car accident, murder, S.A. or injury.
Everything ends up in your blood stream
yea people aren't out there Injecring it I'm pretty sure lol
@@gbresaleking they are. Take it from an ex user, they regularly sell various forms of research chemicals at gaa stations, delis, smokeshops, etc that are frequently injected by their end users. For a while around here before the analog act people were selling bk-mdma/methylone crystals as a product called "NightLights" that users were literally just adding water to the container, stirring and shooting. Then when the act made BK-MDMA illicit, they switched to some seriously nasty bath salt amphetacrank style crap like MDPV without telling anyone resulting in a bunch of methylone addicts going insane shooting up a chemical that takes less than 1/10th the dosage of the one they were used to and had much, much more violent nasty dirty stimulant psychosis inducing effects. Junkies will IV just about anything if it's at all possible to do so and will sniff things that don't even absorb thru mucous membranes, like Xanax pills, only getting any effects from the physical ingestion and substance dripping down their throats, rather than the method used. People will do some weird stuff especially to get high hahaha
They banned this in my state last summer. Just as i was starting to take it. I am glad they banned it before i started taking it long term.
I used to be addicted to tianeptine. I had to quit because the online supplement vendor who I ordered it from stopped selling it due to the addictive properties. Coming off of it was worse than any opiate withdrawal I’ve ever experienced. This was nearly 10 years ago before it found its way into gas stations.
How bad were the withdrawals?
I was to back in 2014 … started with powder city and it was Nutz!! Thought it was a Perfect Kratom substitute and just an amino acid rarely discussed. Luckily I ran out after 3 weeks and within hours I Knew NOPE… this is Worse than Dope no bs! I had to go to the ER bcus of it… both my girlfriend and I did. The dr was receptive and interested but couldn’t prescribe a protocol for the wd so we had to just ruff it after they said our vitals would be ok. The BEST thing that started to happen was the sites going down… powder city stopped bcus a kid died from it. And now they have All the southern states Flooded with it in the gas stations right after they made Kratom illegal… they just created a bunch of new addicts that will go to fent or the suboxone dr…. The government knows what it’s doing and it’s soooo fkd up. Just research the old reddits about why it is still in a certain state…. 💵
@@cecilialopez1001 BOTH people I know who use tianeptine say it's EVERY bit as bad as kicking fentanyl or heroin!
You'll be using & taking 60 pills (the ENTIRE bottle) before you know it MULTIPLE times per day to stop the dopesick from occurring.
Do NOT mess with this stuff or you'll live to VERY much regret your choice to do so.
Stay safe friend.
Withdraw from anti-depresants can be brutal and can screw with your head. SSRI's have a black label, schedule one drugs is for dangerous, deadly and or very addictive. But SSRI are not scheduled at all. It's all a scam for money and patients.
Because it’s not an opiate and the addictive qualities it’s because you’re taking a tricyclic anti depressant. Stopping abruptly on any anti depressant will give you symptoms worse than any opiate withdraw. (I’m someone who actively abused drugs stronger then fent and also take mental health drugs. My background was a biopharm research and developement, mainly pain medication)
Wow Dr.B! This video is blowing up! It's me Nicole. This is my new channel♡
Hi Nicole, looking beautiful today
Man. Thank you so much ! Now I know it's good stuff!
Ok, I wouldn't have commented because I personally am a advocate for easy access to Tianeptine. I like Tianeptine among other things like LSD and psilocybin and weed. So yeah, I'm a drug user. Have been for 25+ years. The reason I'm commenting is because I've noticed a disturbing trend lately. Now, like I say, I'm for certain drugs. But I didn't make it 25 years doing this crap by being stupid and just mixing anything and everything together. I also went to school and got a degree in pharmaceutical chemistry. So I have a deeper understanding of a bad trend when I see one. I'm seeing products now that mix Tianeptine with Kratom extract. Most of the deaths from kratom have been because some poor sap mixed it with something and died. Well with Tianeptine being a full mu-opioid receptor agonist and also affecting serotonin, there isn't anything good going to come from this mix. Not to mention that the mu-opioid antagonist activity of mitraginine cancels out the effects of Tianeptine on me personally and should on everyone. So the pharmacology behind this mix is flawed even so it's a rip off in my opinion but dang, don't be mixing crap with Tianeptine. The ZaZa makers mix enough crap with it. Me myself I buy pure Tianeptine from a chemical vendor. Screw all this dumb crap.
Said vendor?
I used Tianeptine in a medical dosage and it worked really good for depressive episodes with anxiety. But i never took it longer then a few days and only 12.5mg or max. 25mg a day. Though i must say that it made me feel restless as a side effect and for some reason i lost more hair then usual while taking it.
Ty for sharing
@fou201 what do you mean by that?
@@truthxposed8975 and then what be on ssri or stimulants until your tolerance sky rockets
@@truthxposed8975 how do you fix the hormonal issue ? Do you mean testosterone?
Sounds like ashwagandha
I meant Kratom lol
You rock!!! Thank you for caring!
Thanks Doc. this gives me info as to what to look for, for my next drug interaction!
Sorry to hear that. But, what you do with the information is your choice. Good luck in this world
I was abusing opiates and when I told my Doc why I used them, she diagnosed me with ADHD. Not just because of that but apparently it's Dopamine chasing.
Hmmm, I have ADHD and incidentally I started taking a supplement called dopabean. It is suppused to boost dopamine. So far I haven't noticed much of a difference.
Most people who do abuse drugs suffer undiagnosed ADHD and other disorders. The best thing that ever happened to me what finding a doctor who knew what he was talking about. Saved my life actually.
That answers some questions for me. I get really Anxious At night and then I think about relapsing
There’s a strong correlation between ADHD and addiction. And you’re right, it’s believed to all be related to low dopamine
Chase athletic highs instead way more fun
I cant begin to describe how much I find you and so many addiction specialists so helpful and intelligent. Having said that, I will never understand why its so rare that anyone in your field is just so flippantly agreeable with blanket prohibtion. It just doesnt work and never will. Are you atleast not opposed to decriminalizing drugs? Please tell me you are atleast in agreement with that?
Not trying to be rude, just something Im very passionate about.
I guess you have not seem some of my interviews. I am categorically for decriminalization, harm reduction measures all around, re-outfitting the legal system, educational system social services.....shall I go on :)
@DrBAddictionRecovery I have not and I stand corrected. I would only ask you to continue if you absolutely felt you needed to because I would be humbled by it.
I don't expect that though, because you have already done so, and I just wasn't aware. I'll definitely go and watch your videos.
Thanks for what you do!
Got hooked on this in 2016. WIthdrawal was UNBELIEVABLE. Thought I was going to die. Don't EVER TOUCH this stuff.
This video just made me want ti try it. Didn't know about it til now.
Didn't everyone learn with bath salt and spice that gas station drugs are a bad idea.
You would think so. Last time I tried a gas station supplement it interacted with the antidepressant I was taking and caused a 3 min long seizure. I definitely didn’t want to take the stuff, but I was stuck working at said gas station and had significant anxiety that I was trying to alleviate to get through my shift. I guess that’s one way to get through a shift just have yourself a seizure 🫠
Tianeptine is amazing in low doses. The only medication that ever helped with my low energy and depression without me being on 8 different meds. Too bad the USA is years behind on certain pharmaceutical
which kind did you get? i’ve been on many different medications and none of them affect me
That's because you don't have an addictive personality. That Chinese made nasty tasting crap almost killed me in 2017. I had to go on Suboxone and I'm still on it because of Tianeptine. Be careful ❤
Guy I work with takes this stuff a whole bottle at a time every single day 😅
Without being on 8 different meds?
How about you quit meds alltogether...
Only cure, but people are too weak.
@@DopeAdTadsodium tianeptine
Great Video Dr,B have never heard of that before but sad now that people are turning to so many things like this sounds kinda like the Kratom rage.
Not even close to Kratom, going through it now
Thanks for the info
Been wanting something new
Thank you for the education. I value your content and presentation.
Interesting! I am Canadian and I haven't seen any of this anywhere or even heard of it, before this. It's troubling to see all of these chemicals being sold in gas stations. They shouldn't be allowed to take these chemicals and sell them under appealing names.
Well your country actually lets you buy codeine over the counter so
I know 2 people addicted to tianeptine & they BOTH say it's just as AWFUL as trying to kick fentanyl or heroin.
You'll spend the same amount of money on it as somebody who is using fentanyl etc.
The thing that can happen is people think you can use this compound to come off of other opiates & before you know it you'll end up hooked on this & you'll end up taking 60 pills AT ONE TIME (the ENTIRE bottle) to stop from getting dopesick.
@@Primetime9292 lmao those drip rappers paying $$ money 🤑💰 for that cheap otc Canadian opiate
@@Primetime9292 I’ve done cold water extractions of codeine and never found it effective to help withdrawals
@@sirbaronvoncount4147nope. Not atall.
Thank you for telling me about this Iv been looking for something new
Thank you for sharing.
I see a lot of this in tobacco stores more than gas stations in my area. I know there are drugs similar to spice that are sold, but they were sold as “safe”… “no, I don’t think so”, was all I could think.
My friend was prescribed methadone for his back pain, well it worked great! Now he has back pain and an opiate addiction...
Methadone one of the most difficult opiates to get off .
Same with my friend! And an even worse benzo addiction!
This stuff is an absolute nightmare and hellish existence. I’m so glad the word is being spread. 4 years ago my girlfriend’s mom was buying kratom online and the seller started throwing in free samples of tianeptine sodium dissolved in water put into dropper bottles. She was told it was a “natural kratom product” She gave it to my girlfriend to try because she has severe PTSD from childhood trauma and suffers from crippling anxiety and depression. At that time it wasn’t uncommon for her to go months without stepping foot out of the house. The first time she started taking the tianeptine it was night and day difference because it is an anti depressant. We were going out, she was doing things just for fun but after 5 or 6 months I’d say the focus of both their lives started shifting to only making sure they could buy more and it would come in the mail in time. They had the withdrawals but we’re mild enough they thought they were just sick. Over the past 4 years it’s gotten worse and worse. I started taking it soon after those first 5 or 6 months because I was working a ton of hours and it gave me energy. In those 4 years we found out it was tianeptine and I could order the powder online. We lost our apartment. I couldn’t miss the work to go detox because we had to have it come every certain day of every week. It’s a hell. The withdrawals are so unbelievably horrible. I just recently got off outpatient with suboxone but my girlfriend has the sever mental health problems and the withdrawals give her different mental issues than I ever dealt with. We’re living with a family member of mine that’s extremely difficult to deal with. I’m finally starting to be able to save but we sold almost all our possessions over these 4 years to fund this and are starting to build up some of those. If you’re only a couple months into to taking this please do whatever it takes to get off. It gets harder and harder as time goes by
Right on! Awesome work! I did the same. This steals your life and the withdraw underestimated is pure hell
I used to purchase, consume, and sell Tianeptine at my Kratom/Supplement store 4 years ago.
After I saw the level that others would go to in order to fund their purchase, or exhibit certain behaviors, I stopped selling it. I wasn’t in business to make money, I was in business to help people get off opiates.
Unfortunately, drugs were much cheaper in that area, so I closed down and never looked back.
The most addictive thing I've got from the gas station is gas. I can't stop buying it for some odd reason 🤔
Do something anything to stop asap. It ruined my life. I had to go on suboxone just to get off it. Worst opiate I’ve encountered
Banning any substance actually does not work. If one wants something, anything, they will get it no matter what!!!
I was addicted to this stuff BADLY in 2016. I was taking 20 grams a day. Not a typo. 20,000 mg. The withdrawls nearly killed me.
thx for sharing
2 bottles a day
Soooo! Awesome! Glad you made it. Not proud but was at a similar dose I was suffocating and wanted to die during withdraws.
I'm taking 4 bottles a day.. what helps the withdrawl?. I'm planning on quiting over the weekend Nd I'm scared. Does winning slowly off it help?
A lot of people hate on bupe but it really does save lives.
Thanks for the info stopping by my local gas station now
People should be able to sue these places that sell this crap!
If only one could!
They could .. prob won't work tho I rly don't know
Lol, or maybe people should have more personal responsibility and make better choices.
Maybe just take responsibility for your own health and don't use it
I absolutely agree with everything you said
Im a herojn addict and ive only once heard of people buying this at smoke shops but have never seen it or known anyone in my life that has taken it. Interesting topic
For some, the greasiness of McDonald's hash browns is part of their charm. It adds a certain indulgence and decadence to the breakfast experience. It's like treating yourself to a guilty pleasure once in a while. However, for others who prefer a cleaner and less greasy meal, it might be necessary to explore alternative options or modify their order to suit their preferences.
Thank you I now I want McDonald's hashbrowns...
I agree love me some McDonald's hash browns for breakfast!!
Indeed
For others, like me, the hash browns are ordered well done to make them less greasy and more crunchy. There’s a real easy withdrawal symptom comparatively that happens when us well done hash brown addicts order them well done and mc’d’s doesn’t cook them enough
@@hankstopher had a roommate that was talking to a chick online. He didn't even fly her out he sent her $$ for a ticket. She magically lost the $$, or didn't receive it. He was about to send her more when I found out. He told me I was hating on him. I had to get my girlfriend to break it down for him so he'd stop sending her his rent $$.
First Kratom now this??? Im here for it
informative...thank you doctor.
Great info
I like said, you are literally(i am using the word in the literal sense, not hyperbolic). the most knowledgeable and best....I've me. He GETS the user/addict end too. Rarely do I find a Dr. that gets it, if they do. Not like Dr. B. How do I know for certain? No one ever. a dr. ever. has been able to post stuff or say stuff online where i'm like (hmm didn't know that! yeah for sure he's right because he's been 100% right stuff everyone keeps arguing about i know is right....etc). Okay, I've known about Tianeptine, never bothered with it, did not know at all what is gas station H. Woke up just now......also how is it you keep posting with my sleep/work schedule. I do not have notifications on for any youtuber.....it's hitting the algothrim for me perfectly? IDK. Great stuff always man! I never messed around with Tianeptine, because i glanced at it, saw what it was, and thought it wasn't for me.
Lol. You are just too kind. I hope you keep getting something out of channel and the best to you
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I've been getting quite a bit from your channel. Tapering on my dose of subuxone to levels near 0 now!
I still stand by that statement at the time and now, honestly I haven't found any other online "youtube dr's" that discuss this in a nuanced and way that you do.
I forgot I already watched this video lol.
Thanks, Dr. B. Great information! What is the best medication for treating hallucinations (audible) that appear to be residual from psychosis caused by Meth???
There are few antipsychotic meds used in emergent and more chronic scenarios. It really depends on the patient and issues related to him. But if one is indicated it is usually an anyipsychotic
Question: Ive had same audio prob., not bcuz of meth , if it matters...do u Kno these audio hallucinations aren't real ? If so, can u ignore it or not allow it to not interfere publicly ? Maybe it's very overwhelming. I do know visual hallucinations are peripheral, thank God.
@@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor it’s evil spirits, turn to God guys
Try Zyprexa
@@dasmuss6174 ok (edited)
Thanks Doc.
🙏
Great I would of never known this existed now I have to try it
Buprenorphine is the only anti depressant that's worked for more than a few years for my depression. It's a real lifesaver. I'm also a former heroin user so I didn't know it had anything to do with that.
Did you know that it actually is that as well? I mean an antidepressant. You nailed it.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I'm 28 now and originally I was prescribed it as one of the first antidepressants I tried when I was 17 and I had a whole host of terrible side effects from it. It killed my appetite, kept me from sleeping, gave me really bad constipation, and made me hypersexual. This was long before I had taken any opiates, but after years of SSRIs working and failing, along with getting on and off heroin (with the help of Suboxone + the gel injection to wean me off completely), I took my doctor's suggestion to try it again and I'm very glad I did. It helped me quit cigarettes too which was a nice side effect. I also take depakote and lamotrigine for my bipolar which harmonizes well with the buprenorphine. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment.
I'm curious as far as possible benefits; When w/drawaling from opiates diamorphine/fentanyl/etc- Could this possibly have a benefit in that scenario? For instance, the only thing that really helps Fent W/Drawal is Methadone; an arguably worse opioid that can put you into _shock_ if stopped. You really don't wanna take it more than 7 days while tapering, which is still agonizing. Could this possibly help people that don't want to get addicted to Mdone & can use this @ a low dose supplement to help during the W/D. Another problem w/Mdone is it's long acting, so to switch over to Suboxone can be _dangerous._ I hope if this might be an option to ease the suffering of opiate W/D . *_Thoughts?_*
I like this idea
“Gas Station Heroin” I hate these stupid buzzwords news organizations give to products. Kratom was being called “a legal heroin” for a while when it’s NOWHERE near as strong or potentially dangerous. Just dumb sensationalism. Nothing against your video though, I actually really enjoyed it!
Fixing to finish up my 12 step program BECAUSE of this stuff. I’ve taken kratom off and on for 7 years and never had problems abusing it. Then tianeptine started hitting stores in my state and I tried it, I was hooked for about 2 years and it had me by the balls. I’d do absolutely anything to not go through the withdrawals and my god the withdrawals is something I could NOT go through and deal with. I’m two months off the stuff and man I’ll never go back to that junk, even if you gave me a lifetime supply of it. Never. Again.
Awesome job! Same here pure hell for 3 days hoping I could die during withdrawal
Wow! Thank you for the information. I tend to stay away from ”supplements” thankfully. I wonder if people who are on an ssri & take this stuff are at risk for dopamine toxicity? There’s another term for it but it’s basically taking too much of an ssri. 🙏💕
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Serotonin Syndrome
@@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor bingo
@@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor Exactly! Thanks! 🙏
@@lisasmith7066 np it happened to me mixing Phenibut and DXM . I couldn't talk or really answer anything, nor think straight, just hear what I'm being told and see of course. Bizarre...couldn't hold a paper cup too...just crazy
I'm a recovering addict from New Jersey. I thank God that this stuff hasn't been in the stores around where I am.
Honestly I don’t understand why or how people are addicted to this…I take it for anxiety and it’s not recreational at all
Just go to a smoke shop and get it
@KevinRaymondJacksonJr. yea, any gas station "drug" is gona have a dirty high
This drug has saved my life from depression and anxiety. Use it safely and you are fine. It's much safer than becoming a drunk.
I can testify to this. I was seriously addicted to it in 2017. I got mine from a nuero online shop. I build a tolerance to it and yes, what started as a way to help my anxiety, you don't realize how much are dosing because it's just a white crystalline powder. It's sold as Stablon as an anti-depressant in Europe.
What saved me from this? JESUS CHRIST, the great physician. All the glory and power goes to him. Folks, it's been how long and I am still trying to get off Suboxone. I'm down to 4mg sl daily. If it wasn't for the Suboxone and Jesus Christ leading me to it, I really do think Tianeptine sodium would have taken my life with. Sin has its consequences. But where sin abounds, grace abounds even more if you are covered with the powerful blood of the Lamb ❤
Good luck buddy...i did sub for 15 years and its the worse thing to try n quit.
So instead of just hurting yourself you hurt the whole world with cultists
Idk. After fentanyl and carfentanil, I just don't see this stuff as that bad
Thank tou for this information. I have never heard of this. I live in Ohio and I would of never thought
I had insane withdrawals from tianeptine sodium.. I never tried these gas station drinks though. I bought straight powder online.. Got hooked and was taking a ton.. Towards the end I remember my urine looking brown.. Scared me.. Thought maybe I was destroying my liver.. Finally quit but those withdrawls were insane
Awesome job! Glad you made it out. Withdraw is pure hell
Reminds me of Tramadol, which also hits opioid receptors,Mu receptors, and effects serotonin
Similar but apparently better and easier to dose. Tramadol is so weird and unpleasant.
Tramadol sucks and also I am getting Kratom vibes
@@SergioGarcia-qn3zq yeah tramadol is a bust. tapentadol is even worse, similar weird opioid that’s super hard to get high on. I like kratom but I build tolerance way too fast to it.
@@galleryofrogues for some reason, Tramadol worked good for me...but if I wanted a "buzz" I'd have to take 7-10, which is seizure territory. (Whereas oxy 10s I could pop 10-15 in a day,, no problem)....And when I decided to stop taking them, the withdrawals were insane, like coming off of an SSRI (which i wouldn't wish on anyone, and I've withdrawn from hard-core opiates and benzos....)
Tramadol itself is just an antidepressant the opioid effects come from odsmt a metabolite or didestramadok
Never of this, but now I will try it
I have been on Buprenorphine/suboxone treatment for opiate/opioid addiction. I used pain pills, heroin, and fentanyl for well over 13 years after a back injury. Since I went into treatment 3 years and 7 mo ths ago, I found out I had Bipolar II Disorder, as well as PTSD, brain injuries on top of a Chiari Malformation, and I needed rods put in my lower back, and may need fusions in my neck. The Suboxone that I take seems to work well with my depression if I take less than a full dose. I have noticed that it will make my moods better, but I thought it was just a placebo affect. I thought I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms and thats why it made me feel better, but I truly think it helps with my Venlefaxin and other meds meant for my bipolar and PTSD.
There was a study done for emergency rooms a while back where they said in a dire situation an opiate can reduce anxiety, or aggression in a manic/hypomanic patient if benzos werent available. I wonder if the Suboxone study happened after that? Its an interesting topic. Turns out all the things I was using drugs to cope with were all medical issues and not just to party lol.
Tianeptine in continental Europe is antidepressant ( quite good) ..Of course in appropriate dosage. People discovered it works in higher dose on opioid receptor and abuse it 🙈. (I think its mainly used in France under name " Coaxil" and " Stablon")
It's prescribed at 3x12,5mg a day. Good for anxiety and little to no side effects. No withdrawal effects if you follow the recommended dosage.
So people withdrawing from heroin take that and get high? How is it legal at all?
@@jackofalltrades5904 you don't get high at the therapeutical dosage, and in my country the deliverance in pharmacies is regulated, you can only have one month worth of tianeptine and you'll have to see your doctor every month for a new subscription. If you try to fool the system by consulting other doctors, you'll still be blocked at the pharmacy, which are all connected via a special network. So no high and no overuse possible.
@@jackofalltrades5904 I guess someone discovered that higher doses apart serotonine trigger also opioid receptor, mimicking opiates? In normal doses tianeptine work effectively as antidepressant. It's advertised as a " antidepressant with pain killing property, good for asthma and treatment alcoholism , neuropathic pain. Although " heavier on liver then other antidepressants" ( this is what is interesting: all this people taking various psychotropic medications ... How doas it effect their health fizically? ( not only mentally) . How dangerous are certain psychotropic drugs and medications on let's say...liver? Do they cause drug induced liver injury? And to what level? And is it reversable or lethal? We know some of the antipsychotics are bad for liver , kidneys , heart. It's another interesting thema to discuss here..Especially drugs for schizophrenia. My friend had to take medication for some autoimmune disease. I guess its rheumatoid arthritis .( methotrexate)Young guy , and it went over his liver badly. I wonder..What doctors do when you have take certain medication but your liver got poisoned from it ? Just stop taking and die ?Or what?
Using Buprenorphine for depression is a horrible idea in my opinion. Isn't it still extremely addictive even at low doses?
No it isn’t. I’ve taken a low dose for a little over a year now for chronic pain and I suffer no addiction from it. I do experience slight mood elevation but that isn’t a bad thing as I get horribly depressed. I haven’t had to increase the dose of buprenorphine, don’t get cravings for it, etc etc… & I’m not a person who is immune to addiction. No one is in my opinion.
Buprenorphine for pain ????
@@thomascoleman2714 yes it is an opioid
@@memyselfi2005 it is ABSOLUTELY addictive. It is impossible to not be physically addicted to it once you take it for a while. It's no different than any opiate. Try not taking it and you'll see. Lol
Super fucking physically addictive.
Oh I'm educated now. Now I know what to go try, how to get it and how much to take to get....