Do they not have hot dogs in the UK? Seems like they would, we have fish and chips in America and tacos and sushi and curry and Chinese food and all sorts of other stuff from all over the world.
Another technical possibility: You mentioned that they had a weird quirk for Newt: "I don't do sides" Maybe that is done so that there is a reason he stayed out of the Voldemort fight - he just took care of the creatures, and didn't focus on the actual wizard fights going on around him. Also, he would be in his mid to late 90s during the Harry Potter books, so I could see him just not wanting to join in the fight even if he were around
That isn't a "weird quirk", that's a symptom of his caring only about doing what is right rather than going along with others because they share some views. Also, Crimes of Grindelwald has an arc regarding this, with his saying "I don't do sides" at the beginning and "I've chosen my side" at the end.
Have you ever heard Sanderson's explanation of main character, protagonist, and pov character? The person the story is about, the one who changes, and the one who the story is told through. I think we assume because Newt is the POV the story is about him when he is actually more akin to the setting and sphere. He's the one we care about. He will be critical, but the MC is Dumbledore (one the story is about) and the protagonist is Credence (one who changes) We know Newt gets a happy ending - a life, family, his beasts. Everyone else's story is going to end tragically.
Hmm. Can you give an example Sanderson story with this structure? I've read all of them, but the ones coming to mind right now all seem to have a combo character who fits all these categories (Vin, Kaladin, Dalinar, et. al) I guess maybe Warbreaker? Like Lightsong and Vasher as POV characters, the God King a main character, and the sisters as protagonists? Or some other configuration... it's hard because nearly all of Sanderson's characters change just due to how he writes 🤷♀️
I feel that maybe in the final empire, and it’s hard to see this in the rest of the trilogy, both vin and kelsior are POV characters, but vin is the protagonist and kelsior is the main character. Not sure this is the only book of his I was able to apply this to
@@SuperCarlinBrothers lol absolutely. Even on topics that i do not care about at all, you guys find a way to make it interesting. Thank you both so much for taking the time to make these videos each week.
My theory: Newt actually IS around in the books. We're don't hear about it because Harry never properly studied for care of magical creatures, and didn't realize that old Hufflepuff guy he kept seeing was someone pretty important! 😸
@@Laura-pk2fd I think that from a narrative perspective the important part of the reluctant hero trope is that it's someone who says he's not going to get involved and through personal stakes keeps on getting dragged in. I don't think limiting it to specifically someone who doens't want to be a leader or something similar helps in any way.
@@Drecon84 a pretty big example of that trope is Percy Jackson, we literally start the book with him saying he doesn’t want to be a halfblood and that he’ll probably die a painful nasty death because of it and yet he doesn’t want any other kid to go through what he had/has to go through. We see this echoed through all of the books with Percy, if he can even make the smallest of difference in saving a life he does it at 0 regard for his own (especially in Last Olympian, if you know what I’m talking about. Also in Titans curse, those are the two at the top of my head right now)
I have the feeling that Newt will help Dumbledore get along with Fawkes (which is imo the phoenix we see in FB2) and that Fawkes will me important to either break the blood pact or defeat Grind in a different way. It would fit well since Fawkes is a fantastic beast and thats the supposed theme of the saga
I dunno, I think Newt will realise that Dumbledore isn’t exactly God, but they’re friends, I guess, so he’ll just do what dumbledore says. I also feel like newt has the capacity to say no, as he’s older and wiser than Harry
Honestly, i think you're forgetting how nothing Rita writes can be taken at face value. She likes to stretch the truth for the sake of making a juicy story. I think Newt will be the one to figure out how to break the blood vow thing.
I love how this shows us how you came up with Dumbledore’ Plan. Realizations lead to new questions that cause more digging that lead to bigger revelations. I almost want more Beasts films just so you can develop your Dumbledore’s Previous Plan ideas further.
Albus Dumbledore is accustomed to manipulating other people and Newt knows that. He probably just doesn’t want any part of Albus by the time Voldemort starts coming to power.
@@divyanshbarve4698 maybe im wrong but i didnt think all wizards had that long lifespan. Maybe they do but even still Newt at 100 might not be able to fight that well. He doesnt seen to be the greatest at fighting to begin with.
The thunderbird going to Arizona wasn't just a Phoenix reference. The thunderbird is a mythological creature supposed to come from that region and nest in canyons. I can remember what specific nations that one is from, but I remember reading about them long before these movies ever came out.
I think it originates form the Sioux people , if I remember correctly but I am not sure ! Edit : Nevermind , the Thunderbird does appear in Sioux Mythology as well as many other North-American Nations’ Mythologies but we don’t actually know the origin of the Thunderbird Myth for sure !
I kinda wish they kept Newt as the protagonist, him going into different continents, fighting animal poachers, saving them from harm etc, with a faint mention of this big war in the background
You guys have a very different interpretation of how this series is going to end then I do. I assume Newt isn't involved with anything to do with Voldemort is because he just really doesn't want to be. Newt already doesn't want to be involved with Grindlewald and Dumbledore now when he's young and in his prime so I doubt he'll want to do it again when he's older and has more to lose. Also I really don't see Credence surviving the to the end of Fantastic beast series. His entire character just screams tragedy to me in a way that gives me very little confidence in his surivival.
Everyone else: Sitting here suggesting other theories that link to the vid. Me: Newt is the superior character in all of this franchise, in this essay I will-
Oh well just RIP MY HEART OUT AND PUT IT IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTIONS why don't you. Also I find it VERY ironic that the THUNDERBIRD'S home is in ARIZONA and it can conjure thunderstorms when like.....Have y'all seen Southern Arizona? Outside of monsoon season she don't get much rain lol. So his home would have to be in the northern half of the state. It just makes sense.
@@4thdimensionalexplorer ohhhhhhhhhhh that would be a cool idea like their mating thing is making the most impressive thunderstorm which would thus explain why in SoArizona you only see those HARDCORE rains once a year.
Now I usually don’t like to be this negative when it comes to fandom stuff. But timelines and characters appearing in them correctly aren’t exactly HP’s strong suit. So I... don’t think Newt and Credence are absent in the main Harry Potter times for any reason other than just not being thought about at the time
And now that Jo's thought about it, this might be the case. Edit: Not everything has to be established since the very beginning. Jo might not have these ideas early into writing HP, but when she added more things, she also filled in holes and fit stuff into the world.
@@Crafyeet That was why the Goblet of Fire was so much longer than the previous books. She got halfway* through writing it before realising that there was a big plot hole, so she had to go back and fix it. *Halfway according to the originally planned length, but after adding in what she needed to fix the plot hole it turned out that what she'd already written before then was more like a third of the total book
I think that it'll turn out that Newt was helping Dumbledore but wasn't a part of the order. Like Molly and Arthur in the first wizarding war. They only joined the order the second time due to their son's relationship with Harry. I'd say Newt and Tina are helping in other ways. It's not like they hadn't been thought of, Newt was mentioned in the books as the author of the book. I don't think credence will survive the fantastic beasts series.
I am reminded of a quote from Toph Beifong in season 3 of _Avatar: Legend of Korra_ , when they're talking about taking down the season's antagonist. *Opal:* Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma? *Toph:* No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me now. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that civil war nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids. [Walks off.]
What's the timeline for Fantastic Beasts? Wasn't there some sort of uproar that they retconned McGonagall's age so she could appear in the second movie, even though she wasn't supposed to be born yet at the time? I was under the impression that there's a huge time gap between FB and HP, and most of the characters are absent from HP because they are dead from old age, and the ones who do appear, ie. Dumbledore and Grindelwald, are just living extremely long lives thanks to their stronger-than-average magic
Actually, wizards in general live long lives, but because of the times with Voldemort in power, a lot of wizard families and seasoned wizards died fighting/ killed
In fact, most wizards live very long lives. Remember, Dumbledore was like 115 y o in HP so Newt and company are like 90-ish, which is old, but no that old for a wizzard
Yes but I think it was already confirmed that Newt is alive by the end of the battle of hogwarts. Wizards are long living but Dumbledore and Grindelwald are especially long lived
Newt isn't in the HP side of things because they reference his grandson very loosely. And also, Magical exhaustion is a thing, it's actually why Harry passes out at the end of I believe Sorcerer's Stone after defeating Voldy and then waking up in the Hospital Wing. It was also loosely hinted that the fudge and sweets Lupin gives them on the Express in PoA helps with the magical exhaustion brought on by the Dementor presence. Also, bigger spells have been known to show strain on the castor in the movies, therefore there has to be some form of magical drain on their magical core, so to speak.
really? I remember that chocolate thing more to be a "happy maker" than fighting exhaustion. And I am not sure if the mist-voldy attack really caused magical exhaustion or just physical pain etc. on the other hand you see for example Harry at a very young age and still relatively untrained fighting off several dementors several times in the book. You see Voldemort and Dumbledore fighting each other in a battle of quick casts of impressive magic without either of them breaking a sweat or even breathing a bit more heavily or anything. It doesn't seem to be a difference for the caster if they cast petrificus totalus or a or a fire storm in terms of exhaustion.
@@6666Imperator but remember it's sugar. What easier way on a train with a SWEETS cart to gain some emergency energy? You're right it was used as a mood lifter, but the fact remains that it was also emergency energy even if not for the magic itself. And Dumbledore and Voldemort are much more powerful in comparison to young Harry so their magical core or reserves would have grown. It has been said that accidental bouts of magic are due to both the emotions raging at the time and that acts like pressure to a Wizards magic, so if you get too angry, it's like popping the cork off a champagne bottle and the magic flows out uncontrollably
@@nickynegron3515 I think that it is more used as a mood lifter. Dementors are supposed to represent depression and chocolate is known to raise your serotonine levels, that help against depression.
Yeah, Dumbledore got really weak after drinking that potion, the fact that he was able to get it together till the last moment is simply coz ge has a lot more magic than most of the wizards
@@86upsmaya It's not that he has more magic it's that he has more mental control and will, he was seeing his siblings getting tortured from the potion and then he saw Harry about to die so he took all of that and cast the spell to make the fire and try to help not see it anymore, magic at the end of the day will have more to do with your will and control then pure power
For Newt becoming a Squib wouldn't be so bad. Squibs can see magic, use magical objects, live freely in the magical world... he could do his job with 95% efficiency not using magic.
To answer this question you first have to realise that you can help in the wizarding war effort and also not be a member of the order. Take Molly and Arthur as an example. They were not in the order the first time around and they really only joined the second time because of their son's relationship with Harry. Dumbledore probably felt that Newt had already done him a great service during the Grindelwald era and left him to his retirement, probably calling on him for the odd favour.
Fair enough, though Molly may have had additional inspiration to join since her brothers Fabian and Gideon were killed during the First Wizarding War. They were members of the original order and I believe they were twins. They must have meant enough to her since she named her own teins (F)red and (G)eorge. I'm sure her motherly feelings for Harry played the largest part in her membership, but they certainly weren't the ONLY reason. Then of course, Ron was involved in protecting the stone from Voldy and Tom Riddles Diary targeted Ginny prior to them officially joining the order. They were closely involved in all the events leading up.
Wow. Are you sure you watched any of these movies? Dumbledore gives his choice of Newt away at the beginning of Fantastic Beasts 2. "Do you know why I admire you Newt? More perhaps more than any man I know. You do not seek power...or popularity. You simply ask if a thing right in itself. If it is you do it no matter the cost." The last sentence says it all. Where was he during the Voldemort era? Probably consulting behind the scenes. As you know he was on the Marauder's Map the day that Harry was given it. Most likely he was visiting Dumbledore.
theory: Dumbledore and Grindelwald will duel on screen, Dumbledore wins, and then boom it was all a vision Grindelwald gets just before the fight because he is a seer. So he pretty much surrenders in that moment. So Rita Skeeter is tecnically right but we also get to see the duel
Uff, that was tough stuff in the add for Better Help: "Be prepared for some glorious brain selfies, or as I call it: your personality - Or in my case it is like a brain desk. That just got papers all over it. Random trivia" - You say this in a video about Newt? The Hogwarts scene were we see whar the boggart turned into for Newt came to mind imidiatly. A desk with paper all over it - stands for a lot of fear. My heart went out to you, Ben.
Maybe grindelwald foresaw his capture. You know, with his seer abilities. And he knew they couldn't fight and wanted himself to not get hurt unnecessarily.
Perhaps Newt is simply too old by the Second Wizarding War? Certainly he'd be well over 100 years old. He may be a capable wizard but by no means is he on the same level than Dumbledore. Heck eben Slughorn in the Half Blood Prince is complaining about how he's getting old when Dumbledore and Harry go to recruit him back to Hogwarts
The fact that mcgonagall is in the film put me off SO MUCH 😂 I seriously can’t come up with any productions about the story. Who knows, maybe jk’s going to bring back Harry Potter who time traveled into the past to help Dumbledore or something. If she does this I wouldn’t even be surprised 😂
@@coldermusic2729 My guess is WB asked her to put McGonagall in there to get publicity and put her in trailers- solely as an easter egg for moviegoers.
@@coldermusic2729 As for the timeline issue - McGonagall was younger in the books, and older in the films. So they probably went by film canon. Since McGonagall was closer in age to Dumbledore in the films so in that logic, putting her around her 30’s while Dumbledore is in his 50’s I guess makes sense. They probably hoped nobody would notice. But people searched her original date of birth that JK Rowling gave her for the books.
All in all, it's a shame the films aren't about Newt for now on. We could get to know more of his stories, something more about his children and later Rolf and Rolf's twins, or about animals in general. But no, Dumbledore again because the money didn't match.
I believe newt will end up removing the obscurious from credence which may end up killing him. The reason newt wasn't a part of the war against voldimort is because he doesn't like to fight unless he has to, just look how reluctant he was to fight against grinderwald. He only did so after being asked to help credence by dumbledore most likely since he is the only one who can possibly remove the obscurous.
So, i could be completely wrong here, but just from the books, i always assumed Newt developed the wolfsbane potion Lupin takes in Prisoner. I'm sure there's some Pottermore article saying otherwise, but i never dived that deep.
It was developed by Damocles Belby, Marcus Belby’s uncle. Professor Slughorn invited Marcus to Slug Club functions, but was displeased when Marcus told him that his father didn’t really get on with his brother at all.
1:37 *YES!!* 👏 Each movie is less and less about the Fantastic Beast and who found them! I wanted to see Newt caring for his beloved creatures, not the Boring Backstory of Albus Dumbledore. 2:08 - good to see someone else noticed the shrinking title. Bad that it's happening.
Newt answers the question on where he is during voldemorts reign himself "I don't take sides." He just doesn't care he would rather play with his pets while the world burns around him.. if Dumbledore asked however, he may have aided if he could... but he would not just jump into a war
My theory for Nagini: Dumbledore is going to ~let~ Credence die at some point. He might not directly cause it, but the connection will be strong enough for her to side with whomever is opposing Dumbledore. Thus her service to the second Dark Wizard, also one who can speak to her and know her story and maybe even connect with.
Let's be honest this would be good. But the reason these characters aren't involved later on in the series is because JK didn't think things through. But in all seriousness I think Credence is going to die that would probably push nagini to becoming less human as time goes on
A wizard can't lose their magic but you can't cast how much spells you want, Harry himself said that his dementor training was as exhausting if not more than his quidditch training there is a limit
Honestly, I love the character Newt Scamander because he's extremely relatable to me WHICH MEANS: if he was real, we would not be able to have a conversation because both of us would just be starring at the ground. This is not the most positive comment ig.
On the topic of newt being around during Harry Potters time. He is actually seen in hogwarts. When Harry is looking at the marauders map in the movie, you can clearly see a tag of newt scamander walking thru the hallways. Now it could be a ghost version of him if he died and decided to come back. But I think he is most certainly around as part of Dumbledore's entourage.
That was only in the film, not the books. He is mentioned as an author of a magical beats textbook in one of the books, buts that's it. Movie and Book canon are too different things (like Star Wars Legends and Star Wars Canon), but Fantastic Beasts is in both canons.
That argument really does not make sense. The movie and books are both canon. One visual and one written both following the same order of events but years of development apart. Just like fantastic beast it came before Harry Potter on the timeline. Yet the movies are being written and developed now. Why would the producers, director, jk, and the artist all miss it as an Easter egg placed by a single grunt and not use it as a purposely placed image for future events to be played out in an overlap movie or some future side story like an origin or mini series.
@@chrisaronson2717 The movies based on the original 7 books aren't canon. The Fantastic Beasts movies are, but we're not talking about those. The Harry Potter movies are based on canon, but they changed many things, therefore they're not canon. If you were asked "What did Harry do with the Elder Wand?", then "He broke it in half" (which is what happened in the movie) would be an incorrect answer. It's not canon.
Newt could still have been involved in the fight against Voldemort but wasn't mentioned in the Harry Potter books since he didn't have a relationship with Harry in the time period. Him and Tina could have been out of the country when the photograph was taken of the original Order of the Phoenix. Though Voldemort's activity was in Great Britain Dumbledore anyone to check in on his activity in other countries since there was none and Grindelwald's reign was further reaching in the wizarding world.
I don't know how he could "loose" his magic. I suppose he could voluntarily just stop using Magic but that wouldn't be the same thing as being unable to use Magic.
Based on my research, Newt and Tina were retired during the Second Wizarding War. As for Credence, we’ll just have to see what becomes of him in the rest of the series.
You guys are forgetting a key piece of info in the Dumbledore vs. Grindelwald conflict. Grindelwald isn't the master of the Elder Wand anymore, Newt/Tina is. They defeated and disarmed (respectively) Grindelwald in the first movie.
AHHHH I have a thought on the hotdog. It's PROCESSED FOOD which is what Jacob says was killing him (well, the factory of processed foods) and so I think it's a syllabic opposite of Jacob's natural, homemade pastries. Tina originally juxtaposes herself from "the No-Maj," and I think it also relates to the idea that magic can feel like a quick fix instead of a labor of love. And perhaps, just like the dialogue about WWI between Newt & Jacob, Jacob - and all muggles - do affect wizards. He's making the food she (and other wizards) eats. Both communities affect each other...... I had only planned to say, "hotdogs vs pastries" but yeah, additional thoughts over.
Hold up-if this ends up being right and Newt survives with Obscurous-Credence inside him because of the Philosopher’s stone…then…does that mean that when Flamel decided to let the stone be destroyed in Philosopher’s Stone, he was also signing off on Newt’s death warrant?
By the time HP happens, Newt is a grandfather. Also, he tries to avoid conflict. Yes, he's an incredibly powerful wizard, but he doesn't use his abilities for fighting. In many ways, it seems he has the mindset of a doctor, trying to protect, heal, and preserve life. I imagine war would be particularly devastating for him. Dunno. Just my thoughts...
Normally I go along with way more of your theories than I expect. But two things: 1. How does absorbing a very powerful magical being take away your magic? 2. JKR knew about the Scamanders, she knew Luna would marry Rolf, she knew, judging by the book "Fantastic beasts and where to find them", that Newt had a connection to Dumbledore and had a wife. So, if Newt only stays away from the war against Voldemort because of his lost magical powers, how come we never hear about the rest of the family? Rolf could have been mentioned as a student at Hogwarts either way... I don't know, it just still doesn't add up to me.
I am sure if they don't explain it on the movies Rowling will make a tweet with a random reason. Personaly I think it is just that the story wasn't tought about until the succes of Hp movies and merch
Why the hotdog?? Tina is a witch trying to blend into the muggle streets of New York and thinks that she is "acting naturally" by doing the most cliché muggle thing she knows... just like at the Quidditch World Cup as witches and wizards stuck out for their odd "is this what muggles wear?" sense of fashion. :)
I think obscurus are the key to Dumbledore and/or Grindelwald breaking the blood pact. An obscurus occurs from suppressing magic, so what happens if you suppress only a very specific part of magic like say a magical pact. Could this possibly create an obscurus? In the 1st Fantastic Beasts film Newt has an obscurus he managed to pull out of a young girl. Granted she didn't survive, but what if someone as powerful as Dumbledore created a minor obscurus in himself from the magic of the blood pact? I think it would be possible for Newt to help Dumbledore safely remove it with both of their experiences and power.
My thoughts about the naming of the movies. I think they are using "beast" as a blanket term now. The first movie made you think "Animals!" But now it's a colloquialism for something inside of us all? Maybe.
I am going to be really angry if what Dumbledore witnesses in the mirror of Erised is a memory. You are only to see what you want the most, so what he sees cannot be what actually happened, but what Dumbledore wishes happened. It’s definitely a blood oath, and it blocks Dumbledore from moving against Grindlewald, but I don’t think it is what we have been led to believe. If anyone disagrees with this, read HP book 1, chapter 12. I don’t think Newt would ever have joined the first battle if Dumbledore hadn’t tricked him into it. He didn’t even want to pick a side to fight on until his brother lost Leta. I don’t think Newt will allow himself to be manipulated by Dumbledore again. Either that, or he suffers such losses that Dumbledore would never ask him. I am not sure about Credence. My best guess is he is Draco’s grandpa. He’s the right age and temperament.
Wow i am pretty convinced and i could definitely see this happening. In the first film we see Newt healing Jacob by just using his hands and i think he'd be perfectly fine without his magic, tho i'd be kinda sad if he canonically has no magic
I think Newt was simply done with openly confronting anyone it's more like he helped Dumbledore in unknown ways during the Harry Potter series + the real reason we don't know about Newt is because this series is an afterthought
This magic that Credence uses, could be magic caused by thoughts in the movement/space thought mixed with theory thinking, which formed by his anger dwelling in his heart. What I mean is that instead of thinking of punching someone, he has power that listens to his thoughts. Other people do this but lack power, but most things go unnoticed like Harry's hair. Some break them selves, the rare ones like the Dumbledore family, Girndelwald and Tom Riddle Jr. are geniuses.
I actually agree with this to a point. I don’t think it will be Newt who absorbs Credence. I think Credence will sacrifice himself and go into Grindelwald. Which would explain why Grindelwald never escaped Nurmengard. He physically had no ability.
‘I’ve met a few incorruptible men,’ said Madam Meserole. ‘They tend to die horrible deaths. The world balances out, you see. A corrupt man in a good world, or a good man in a corrupt one…the equation comes out the same. The world does not deal well with those who don’t pick a side.’ ‘I like the middle,’ said Vimes. ‘That gives you two enemies.’ ― Terry Pratchett, Night Watch
I think the reason newt wasn’t in the Harry Potter time was honestly just because he was in like his 80s or 90s and he just wasn’t to raise his kids and grandkids with the woman he loves and 3 knezels
The LEGO minifigure version of Tina from the HP minifigure series 1 comes with a hot dog so I have to believe that hot dog is integral to Tina’s character.
To be fair, in the fifth book, Ron and Hermione informs Harry that they believe there to be more than the twenty-something members that they've met, and Moody tells Harry of a rear Advance Guard that was to take over if the initial group were to be attacked, although more or less every identified member of the Order save Sirius Black and the extended Weasley family were in it. So how do we know Newt wasn't in the Order? Newt, Tina and/or Theseus might have passed Ron and Hermione on their way to a meeting, and they didn't realize who these old people were.
Newt was either already dead when Harry started school or died during his first/second year at Hogwarts. It could very well be that the theory about the philosophers stone is correct, but the wondering where Newt is has been answered, I believe. He's dead.
If he gives up his magic, could he still see Hogwarts? Would it make him like a squib, or like a muggle? Asking this because of the Prisoner of Azkaban easter egg
Honestly, It feels like when they made the first Fantastic Beast movie, they wanted some big reveal at the very end so they threw in the Grindelwald reveal without thinking of the ramification and implication to the original series. Then they realized this movie was making a killing at the box office so they decided to make it a 5? movie series instead and cobbled together some poorly thought out explanation as to why this movie needs to keep going
Great video but I feel like Newt could have charged into the battle of Hogwarts with all his fantastic beast at his side without being magical and would have because again, he does the right thing no matter the cost
First off, I love LOVE that you can sponsor your own video!!! I can't wait to try the coffee myself! Second, do we know how nagini got to the UK? because she was in a circus in America in the first movie & in the books she meets voldermort in a forest somewherein Europe, right?
I honestly thought it was obvious why Dumbledore chose Newt to carry on that mission. No, he wasn't a strong wizard like Dumbledore, but powerful enough to handle the beasts, so he knew better. Plus, he is the only one Dumbledore trusted that can travel freely (well.. like have the initiative to go everywhere and hated being jailed at home- that brings Newt as an advantage coz he saw many things- things even Dumbledore couldn't). Remember how the ministry is keeping a very close eyes on Dumbledore. They couldn't do that to Newt apparently.. coz he has always been a free will guy, refused to accept order from anyone. And he has his brother to back him up if he messed up. Perfect person ever. Newt not taking side is pretty obvious too. He wasn't the "save the world" type of hero. He never wanted to get involved in all those mess, due to his introvert self. He only did what he did coz it has to be done and because it's the right thing to do. No idea why people crammed their heads thinking of twisting some things so hard when the answer is already there. Edit: also, the most possible answer to why Newt wasn't in any of the war in HP is again, he really wasn't the "save the world" type. The Grinderwald thing somehow related to his brother and his friends (plus, Dumbledore asked him and he did it due to respect for Dumbledore- well he didn't really want to but he finally did after losing Leeta. Strong reason enough). This time (Voldemort time), was where he had a family. A family he cared about. We are weak when it comes to protecting them. He can't be wanting to lose them like how he lose Leeta. Involving in that war could mean death to his entire family. I also agree with one of the comments that said he would be too old to get involved anyway (remember his grandson married Luna-take that into timeline and count his age).
I was actually listening to the Deathly Hollows book this week and got to that line you referenced about the duel not even being a duel, but Grindelwald surrendering. And thought the same thing... could this be true? Since everything Rita wrote was true after all. Is this some clue to the Fantastic Beasts movies ending?
Honestly the Fantastic Beasts movies are so convoluted at this point, and we're only at the second movie! I hope that everything will eventually be tied up and explained neatly, then again plotholes are what allows you guys to theorise. Alsoalso goodluck on your journey into Fatherdom Ben!! I hope everything goes smoothly for you and Alyce!
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When is the next trivia night? Love your videos!!
The hot dog is to remind everyone that they’re in America
Lol!
And in NYC.
I found that hotdog a bit stereotypical of JK to include. But maybe that’s just me. 😂
Do they not have hot dogs in the UK? Seems like they would, we have fish and chips in America and tacos and sushi and curry and Chinese food and all sorts of other stuff from all over the world.
@@canaan5337 well yes, but we also have people and nationalities from all over the world here. America is a melting pot.
Another technical possibility: You mentioned that they had a weird quirk for Newt: "I don't do sides"
Maybe that is done so that there is a reason he stayed out of the Voldemort fight - he just took care of the creatures, and didn't focus on the actual wizard fights going on around him. Also, he would be in his mid to late 90s during the Harry Potter books, so I could see him just not wanting to join in the fight even if he were around
That isn't a "weird quirk", that's a symptom of his caring only about doing what is right rather than going along with others because they share some views. Also, Crimes of Grindelwald has an arc regarding this, with his saying "I don't do sides" at the beginning and "I've chosen my side" at the end.
Have you ever heard Sanderson's explanation of main character, protagonist, and pov character? The person the story is about, the one who changes, and the one who the story is told through. I think we assume because Newt is the POV the story is about him when he is actually more akin to the setting and sphere. He's the one we care about. He will be critical, but the MC is Dumbledore (one the story is about) and the protagonist is Credence (one who changes)
We know Newt gets a happy ending - a life, family, his beasts. Everyone else's story is going to end tragically.
Hmm. Can you give an example Sanderson story with this structure? I've read all of them, but the ones coming to mind right now all seem to have a combo character who fits all these categories (Vin, Kaladin, Dalinar, et. al)
I guess maybe Warbreaker? Like Lightsong and Vasher as POV characters, the God King a main character, and the sisters as protagonists? Or some other configuration... it's hard because nearly all of Sanderson's characters change just due to how he writes 🤷♀️
I feel that maybe in the final empire, and it’s hard to see this in the rest of the trilogy, both vin and kelsior are POV characters, but vin is the protagonist and kelsior is the main character. Not sure this is the only book of his I was able to apply this to
Newt is the main character just as Harry was. Newt is just less of a focus in Fantastic Beasts than Harry was in Harry Potter.
I like the fact that every time you say Nagini is Voldemort's right-hand snake, you use the clip where she slithers past Voldemort's left hand
Thats because it's more Sinister
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My theory: Newt actually IS around in the books. We're don't hear about it because Harry never properly studied for care of magical creatures, and didn't realize that old Hufflepuff guy he kept seeing was someone pretty important! 😸
Naw, newt lives in America with his wife y'all .
@@thorzyan but he doesn’t. Like canonically he lives in Dorset with his wife
@@thorzyan bb-but i met him in universal studios. are you saying he was lying?
@@dolphinman9253 I met his wife
@@pedro55845 so did i 😉
"Don't take sides" is actually a very classic characteristic for a main character. The 'reluctant hero' is a very often used archetype.
Being a reluctant hero doesn't often mean not taking sides. It's more about not wanting to be the leader/carry the burden
@@Laura-pk2fd I think that from a narrative perspective the important part of the reluctant hero trope is that it's someone who says he's not going to get involved and through personal stakes keeps on getting dragged in.
I don't think limiting it to specifically someone who doens't want to be a leader or something similar helps in any way.
@@Drecon84 a pretty big example of that trope is Percy Jackson, we literally start the book with him saying he doesn’t want to be a halfblood and that he’ll probably die a painful nasty death because of it and yet he doesn’t want any other kid to go through what he had/has to go through. We see this echoed through all of the books with Percy, if he can even make the smallest of difference in saving a life he does it at 0 regard for his own (especially in Last Olympian, if you know what I’m talking about. Also in Titans curse, those are the two at the top of my head right now)
I like Newt Scamander a lot but let's be real he is even more of an errand boy for Dumbledore than Harry Potter was
But for real every character is Dumbledore's errand boy
I have the feeling that Newt will help Dumbledore get along with Fawkes (which is imo the phoenix we see in FB2) and that Fawkes will me important to either break the blood pact or defeat Grind in a different way. It would fit well since Fawkes is a fantastic beast and thats the supposed theme of the saga
I dunno, I think Newt will realise that Dumbledore isn’t exactly God, but they’re friends, I guess, so he’ll just do what dumbledore says. I also feel like newt has the capacity to say no, as he’s older and wiser than Harry
will be*
He's doing what's right. He's not an 'errand boy'.
Honestly, i think you're forgetting how nothing Rita writes can be taken at face value. She likes to stretch the truth for the sake of making a juicy story. I think Newt will be the one to figure out how to break the blood vow thing.
I love how this shows us how you came up with Dumbledore’ Plan. Realizations lead to new questions that cause more digging that lead to bigger revelations. I almost want more Beasts films just so you can develop your Dumbledore’s Previous Plan ideas further.
They're going to Brazil.
Albus Dumbledore is accustomed to manipulating other people and Newt knows that. He probably just doesn’t want any part of Albus by the time Voldemort starts coming to power.
Honestly...I think the reason Newt isn't there in the Battle of Hogwarts or anything is that he's legit like 100 years old...
that doesnt explain why he isnt part of order of phoenix during voldemorts first reign of terror
@@villekuronen6242 yeah it only explains why in the 2nd war
100 is not crazy old for a wizard
Dunbledore is 115
@@divyanshbarve4698 maybe im wrong but i didnt think all wizards had that long lifespan. Maybe they do but even still Newt at 100 might not be able to fight that well. He doesnt seen to be the greatest at fighting to begin with.
The thunderbird going to Arizona wasn't just a Phoenix reference. The thunderbird is a mythological creature supposed to come from that region and nest in canyons. I can remember what specific nations that one is from, but I remember reading about them long before these movies ever came out.
I think it originates form the Sioux people , if I remember correctly but I am not sure !
Edit : Nevermind , the Thunderbird does appear in Sioux Mythology as well as many other North-American Nations’ Mythologies but we don’t actually know the origin of the Thunderbird Myth for sure !
I kinda wish they kept Newt as the protagonist, him going into different continents, fighting animal poachers, saving them from harm etc, with a faint mention of this big war in the background
Me, too - ti would've made more sense . . .
Man, I wish it was like this
You guys have a very different interpretation of how this series is going to end then I do. I assume Newt isn't involved with anything to do with Voldemort is because he just really doesn't want to be. Newt already doesn't want to be involved with Grindlewald and Dumbledore now when he's young and in his prime so I doubt he'll want to do it again when he's older and has more to lose.
Also I really don't see Credence surviving the to the end of Fantastic beast series. His entire character just screams tragedy to me in a way that gives me very little confidence in his surivival.
Everyone else: Sitting here suggesting other theories that link to the vid.
Me:
Newt is the superior character in all of this franchise, in this essay I will-
Oh well just RIP MY HEART OUT AND PUT IT IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTIONS why don't you.
Also I find it VERY ironic that the THUNDERBIRD'S home is in ARIZONA and it can conjure thunderstorms when like.....Have y'all seen Southern Arizona? Outside of monsoon season she don't get much rain lol. So his home would have to be in the northern half of the state. It just makes sense.
Or maybe they breed during monsoons or something like that.
@@4thdimensionalexplorer ohhhhhhhhhhh that would be a cool idea like their mating thing is making the most impressive thunderstorm which would thus explain why in SoArizona you only see those HARDCORE rains once a year.
Now I usually don’t like to be this negative when it comes to fandom stuff. But timelines and characters appearing in them correctly aren’t exactly HP’s strong suit. So I... don’t think Newt and Credence are absent in the main Harry Potter times for any reason other than just not being thought about at the time
And now that Jo's thought about it, this might be the case.
Edit: Not everything has to be established since the very beginning. Jo might not have these ideas early into writing HP, but when she added more things, she also filled in holes and fit stuff into the world.
@@Crafyeet That was why the Goblet of Fire was so much longer than the previous books. She got halfway* through writing it before realising that there was a big plot hole, so she had to go back and fix it.
*Halfway according to the originally planned length, but after adding in what she needed to fix the plot hole it turned out that what she'd already written before then was more like a third of the total book
I think that it'll turn out that Newt was helping Dumbledore but wasn't a part of the order. Like Molly and Arthur in the first wizarding war. They only joined the order the second time due to their son's relationship with Harry. I'd say Newt and Tina are helping in other ways. It's not like they hadn't been thought of, Newt was mentioned in the books as the author of the book. I don't think credence will survive the fantastic beasts series.
@@s6r231 Newt's name is also on the marauders map in PoA movie
I am reminded of a quote from Toph Beifong in season 3 of _Avatar: Legend of Korra_ , when they're talking about taking down the season's antagonist.
*Opal:*
Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma?
*Toph:*
No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me now. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that civil war nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids. [Walks off.]
What's the timeline for Fantastic Beasts? Wasn't there some sort of uproar that they retconned McGonagall's age so she could appear in the second movie, even though she wasn't supposed to be born yet at the time? I was under the impression that there's a huge time gap between FB and HP, and most of the characters are absent from HP because they are dead from old age, and the ones who do appear, ie. Dumbledore and Grindelwald, are just living extremely long lives thanks to their stronger-than-average magic
Actually, wizards in general live long lives, but because of the times with Voldemort in power, a lot of wizard families and seasoned wizards died fighting/ killed
In fact, most wizards live very long lives. Remember, Dumbledore was like 115 y o in HP so Newt and company are like 90-ish, which is old, but no that old for a wizzard
Yes but I think it was already confirmed that Newt is alive by the end of the battle of hogwarts. Wizards are long living but Dumbledore and Grindelwald are especially long lived
@@chrishall5570 Tbh, they aren't especially long lived. Iirc the headmaster Armando Dippet lived until his 350s
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Oh, that iconic intro song.
I can't live without it anymore.
Newt isn't in the HP side of things because they reference his grandson very loosely. And also, Magical exhaustion is a thing, it's actually why Harry passes out at the end of I believe Sorcerer's Stone after defeating Voldy and then waking up in the Hospital Wing. It was also loosely hinted that the fudge and sweets Lupin gives them on the Express in PoA helps with the magical exhaustion brought on by the Dementor presence. Also, bigger spells have been known to show strain on the castor in the movies, therefore there has to be some form of magical drain on their magical core, so to speak.
really? I remember that chocolate thing more to be a "happy maker" than fighting exhaustion. And I am not sure if the mist-voldy attack really caused magical exhaustion or just physical pain etc.
on the other hand you see for example Harry at a very young age and still relatively untrained fighting off several dementors several times in the book. You see Voldemort and Dumbledore fighting each other in a battle of quick casts of impressive magic without either of them breaking a sweat or even breathing a bit more heavily or anything. It doesn't seem to be a difference for the caster if they cast petrificus totalus or a or a fire storm in terms of exhaustion.
@@6666Imperator but remember it's sugar. What easier way on a train with a SWEETS cart to gain some emergency energy? You're right it was used as a mood lifter, but the fact remains that it was also emergency energy even if not for the magic itself. And Dumbledore and Voldemort are much more powerful in comparison to young Harry so their magical core or reserves would have grown. It has been said that accidental bouts of magic are due to both the emotions raging at the time and that acts like pressure to a Wizards magic, so if you get too angry, it's like popping the cork off a champagne bottle and the magic flows out uncontrollably
@@nickynegron3515 I think that it is more used as a mood lifter. Dementors are supposed to represent depression and chocolate is known to raise your serotonine levels, that help against depression.
Yeah, Dumbledore got really weak after drinking that potion, the fact that he was able to get it together till the last moment is simply coz ge has a lot more magic than most of the wizards
@@86upsmaya It's not that he has more magic it's that he has more mental control and will, he was seeing his siblings getting tortured from the potion and then he saw Harry about to die so he took all of that and cast the spell to make the fire and try to help not see it anymore, magic at the end of the day will have more to do with your will and control then pure power
For Newt becoming a Squib wouldn't be so bad.
Squibs can see magic, use magical objects, live freely in the magical world... he could do his job with 95% efficiency not using magic.
To answer this question you first have to realise that you can help in the wizarding war effort and also not be a member of the order. Take Molly and Arthur as an example. They were not in the order the first time around and they really only joined the second time because of their son's relationship with Harry. Dumbledore probably felt that Newt had already done him a great service during the Grindelwald era and left him to his retirement, probably calling on him for the odd favour.
Fair enough, though Molly may have had additional inspiration to join since her brothers Fabian and Gideon were killed during the First Wizarding War. They were members of the original order and I believe they were twins. They must have meant enough to her since she named her own teins (F)red and (G)eorge. I'm sure her motherly feelings for Harry played the largest part in her membership, but they certainly weren't the ONLY reason. Then of course, Ron was involved in protecting the stone from Voldy and Tom Riddles Diary targeted Ginny prior to them officially joining the order. They were closely involved in all the events leading up.
"..their son's relationship with Harry." Whoops, may have misread your original comment a bit...but still, I think it was much more than just that.
Wow. Are you sure you watched any of these movies? Dumbledore gives his choice of Newt away at the beginning of Fantastic Beasts 2. "Do you know why I admire you Newt? More perhaps more than any man I know. You do not seek power...or popularity. You simply ask if a thing right in itself. If it is you do it no matter the cost." The last sentence says it all.
Where was he during the Voldemort era? Probably consulting behind the scenes. As you know he was on the Marauder's Map the day that Harry was given it. Most likely he was visiting Dumbledore.
theory: Dumbledore and Grindelwald will duel on screen, Dumbledore wins, and then boom it was all a vision Grindelwald gets just before the fight because he is a seer. So he pretty much surrenders in that moment. So Rita Skeeter is tecnically right but we also get to see the duel
Uff, that was tough stuff in the add for Better Help: "Be prepared for some glorious brain selfies, or as I call it: your personality - Or in my case it is like a brain desk. That just got papers all over it. Random trivia" - You say this in a video about Newt? The Hogwarts scene were we see whar the boggart turned into for Newt came to mind imidiatly. A desk with paper all over it - stands for a lot of fear. My heart went out to you, Ben.
Maybe grindelwald foresaw his capture. You know, with his seer abilities. And he knew they couldn't fight and wanted himself to not get hurt unnecessarily.
Perhaps Newt is simply too old by the Second Wizarding War? Certainly he'd be well over 100 years old. He may be a capable wizard but by no means is he on the same level than Dumbledore.
Heck eben Slughorn in the Half Blood Prince is complaining about how he's getting old when Dumbledore and Harry go to recruit him back to Hogwarts
Honestly, she just probably never thought about it. She doesn't have the best track record so far with consistency
The fact that mcgonagall is in the film put me off SO MUCH 😂 I seriously can’t come up with any productions about the story. Who knows, maybe jk’s going to bring back Harry Potter who time traveled into the past to help Dumbledore or something. If she does this I wouldn’t even be surprised 😂
@@coldermusic2729 My guess is WB asked her to put McGonagall in there to get publicity and put her in trailers- solely as an easter egg for moviegoers.
@@coldermusic2729 As for the timeline issue - McGonagall was younger in the books, and older in the films. So they probably went by film canon. Since McGonagall was closer in age to Dumbledore in the films so in that logic, putting her around her 30’s while Dumbledore is in his 50’s I guess makes sense. They probably hoped nobody would notice. But people searched her original date of birth that JK Rowling gave her for the books.
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She probably forgot about the age herself 😂
All in all, it's a shame the films aren't about Newt for now on. We could get to know more of his stories, something more about his children and later Rolf and Rolf's twins, or about animals in general. But no, Dumbledore again because the money didn't match.
I believe newt will end up removing the obscurious from credence which may end up killing him. The reason newt wasn't a part of the war against voldimort is because he doesn't like to fight unless he has to, just look how reluctant he was to fight against grinderwald. He only did so after being asked to help credence by dumbledore most likely since he is the only one who can possibly remove the obscurous.
So, i could be completely wrong here, but just from the books, i always assumed Newt developed the wolfsbane potion Lupin takes in Prisoner. I'm sure there's some Pottermore article saying otherwise, but i never dived that deep.
It was developed by Damocles Belby, Marcus Belby’s uncle.
Professor Slughorn invited Marcus to Slug Club functions, but was displeased when Marcus told him that his father didn’t really get on with his brother at all.
1:37 *YES!!* 👏 Each movie is less and less about the Fantastic Beast and who found them! I wanted to see Newt caring for his beloved creatures, not the Boring Backstory of Albus Dumbledore.
2:08 - good to see someone else noticed the shrinking title. Bad that it's happening.
Newt answers the question on where he is during voldemorts reign himself "I don't take sides." He just doesn't care he would rather play with his pets while the world burns around him.. if Dumbledore asked however, he may have aided if he could... but he would not just jump into a war
My theory for Nagini: Dumbledore is going to ~let~ Credence die at some point. He might not directly cause it, but the connection will be strong enough for her to side with whomever is opposing Dumbledore. Thus her service to the second Dark Wizard, also one who can speak to her and know her story and maybe even connect with.
There was a mention of newt in book one! In Harry’s list of things for Hogwarts newt’s book! Fantastic beasts! Never talked about again but mentioned!
Fantastic Beasts 5: The Philosopher's Stone
But Jacob (or any American character) calls Flamel a Sorcerer at some point in the movie as a little nod.
Ew
Love this! Maybe not the title, but the idea is dope.
Let's be honest this would be good.
But the reason these characters aren't involved later on in the series is because JK didn't think things through.
But in all seriousness I think Credence is going to die that would probably push nagini to becoming less human as time goes on
A wizard can't lose their magic but you can't cast how much spells you want, Harry himself said that his dementor training was as exhausting if not more than his quidditch training there is a limit
SCB be like: If you take care of magical creatures you aren't allowed to/can't use magic.
Me: cries in half-giant Hagrid tears.
Honestly, I love the character Newt Scamander because he's extremely relatable to me WHICH MEANS: if he was real, we would not be able to have a conversation because both of us would just be starring at the ground. This is not the most positive comment ig.
Virtual hug
Same
i love newt because when i was 10 i had a crush on a completely different character who was also voiced by newts german dub voice actor
0:41 maybe she just got hungry and saw a guy with a hotdog cart? you're probably overthinking it.
( 0:35 ) It`s in New York, of coarse there`s gonna be a hotdog in it XD
On the topic of newt being around during Harry Potters time. He is actually seen in hogwarts. When Harry is looking at the marauders map in the movie, you can clearly see a tag of newt scamander walking thru the hallways. Now it could be a ghost version of him if he died and decided to come back. But I think he is most certainly around as part of Dumbledore's entourage.
That was only in the film, not the books. He is mentioned as an author of a magical beats textbook in one of the books, buts that's it. Movie and Book canon are too different things (like Star Wars Legends and Star Wars Canon), but Fantastic Beasts is in both canons.
That was probably just an easter egg in the movie. It's not canon, it wasn't in the book, just the movie.
That argument really does not make sense. The movie and books are both canon. One visual and one written both following the same order of events but years of development apart. Just like fantastic beast it came before Harry Potter on the timeline. Yet the movies are being written and developed now. Why would the producers, director, jk, and the artist all miss it as an Easter egg placed by a single grunt and not use it as a purposely placed image for future events to be played out in an overlap movie or some future side story like an origin or mini series.
@@chrisaronson2717 The movies based on the original 7 books aren't canon. The Fantastic Beasts movies are, but we're not talking about those. The Harry Potter movies are based on canon, but they changed many things, therefore they're not canon. If you were asked "What did Harry do with the Elder Wand?", then "He broke it in half" (which is what happened in the movie) would be an incorrect answer. It's not canon.
Newt could still have been involved in the fight against Voldemort but wasn't mentioned in the Harry Potter books since he didn't have a relationship with Harry in the time period. Him and Tina could have been out of the country when the photograph was taken of the original Order of the Phoenix. Though Voldemort's activity was in Great Britain Dumbledore anyone to check in on his activity in other countries since there was none and Grindelwald's reign was further reaching in the wizarding world.
Loving this string of Harry Potter theories
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The last time I checked Berlin was not in Brazil ... I am pretty much sure I live in Berlin but not in Brazil. Almost 98% sure
It will happen in both Brazil and Germany
You are in brazil
I don't know how he could "loose" his magic. I suppose he could voluntarily just stop using Magic but that wouldn't be the same thing as being unable to use Magic.
It's all good with Dumbledore and Grindy, but I need to see more of Newt, Tina and Jacob in SoD
Based on my research, Newt and Tina were retired during the Second Wizarding War. As for Credence, we’ll just have to see what becomes of him in the rest of the series.
You guys are forgetting a key piece of info in the Dumbledore vs. Grindelwald conflict. Grindelwald isn't the master of the Elder Wand anymore, Newt/Tina is. They defeated and disarmed (respectively) Grindelwald in the first movie.
AHHHH I have a thought on the hotdog. It's PROCESSED FOOD which is what Jacob says was killing him (well, the factory of processed foods) and so I think it's a syllabic opposite of Jacob's natural, homemade pastries. Tina originally juxtaposes herself from "the No-Maj," and I think it also relates to the idea that magic can feel like a quick fix instead of a labor of love. And perhaps, just like the dialogue about WWI between Newt & Jacob, Jacob - and all muggles - do affect wizards. He's making the food she (and other wizards) eats. Both communities affect each other...... I had only planned to say, "hotdogs vs pastries" but yeah, additional thoughts over.
symbolic*
I'm calling it now, Nick and his shiny red rock won't come back in any major way throughout the rest of the series.
😂 Nick and his shiny red rock 😂😂
Great theory, as always. I've even watched 40+min commercial as my tiny 'thank you' for these quality videos. Keep up the good work!
Hold up-if this ends up being right and Newt survives with Obscurous-Credence inside him because of the Philosopher’s stone…then…does that mean that when Flamel decided to let the stone be destroyed in Philosopher’s Stone, he was also signing off on Newt’s death warrant?
All your theories are so good man, like I can see all of them happening
Watching the salamander scene wearing my SCB "We finish each others salamanders" shirt :D who else got one?
By the time HP happens, Newt is a grandfather. Also, he tries to avoid conflict. Yes, he's an incredibly powerful wizard, but he doesn't use his abilities for fighting. In many ways, it seems he has the mindset of a doctor, trying to protect, heal, and preserve life. I imagine war would be particularly devastating for him. Dunno. Just my thoughts...
Normally I go along with way more of your theories than I expect. But two things: 1. How does absorbing a very powerful magical being take away your magic? 2. JKR knew about the Scamanders, she knew Luna would marry Rolf, she knew, judging by the book "Fantastic beasts and where to find them", that Newt had a connection to Dumbledore and had a wife. So, if Newt only stays away from the war against Voldemort because of his lost magical powers, how come we never hear about the rest of the family? Rolf could have been mentioned as a student at Hogwarts either way... I don't know, it just still doesn't add up to me.
I am sure if they don't explain it on the movies Rowling will make a tweet with a random reason. Personaly I think it is just that the story wasn't tought about until the succes of Hp movies and merch
Why the hotdog?? Tina is a witch trying to blend into the muggle streets of New York and thinks that she is "acting naturally" by doing the most cliché muggle thing she knows... just like at the Quidditch World Cup as witches and wizards stuck out for their odd "is this what muggles wear?" sense of fashion. :)
Hot dogs are delicious, though.
Where was newt during the Harry Potter saga? Being 100 years old, happily married, and retired, oh and raising magical cats.
This isn't really related to the video at all, but I love that one of their set background shelves is just entirely dedicated to Hagrid.
I think obscurus are the key to Dumbledore and/or Grindelwald breaking the blood pact. An obscurus occurs from suppressing magic, so what happens if you suppress only a very specific part of magic like say a magical pact. Could this possibly create an obscurus? In the 1st Fantastic Beasts film Newt has an obscurus he managed to pull out of a young girl. Granted she didn't survive, but what if someone as powerful as Dumbledore created a minor obscurus in himself from the magic of the blood pact? I think it would be possible for Newt to help Dumbledore safely remove it with both of their experiences and power.
My thoughts about the naming of the movies. I think they are using "beast" as a blanket term now. The first movie made you think "Animals!" But now it's a colloquialism for something inside of us all? Maybe.
I am going to be really angry if what Dumbledore witnesses in the mirror of Erised is a memory. You are only to see what you want the most, so what he sees cannot be what actually happened, but what Dumbledore wishes happened. It’s definitely a blood oath, and it blocks Dumbledore from moving against Grindlewald, but I don’t think it is what we have been led to believe. If anyone disagrees with this, read HP book 1, chapter 12.
I don’t think Newt would ever have joined the first battle if Dumbledore hadn’t tricked him into it. He didn’t even want to pick a side to fight on until his brother lost Leta. I don’t think Newt will allow himself to be manipulated by Dumbledore again. Either that, or he suffers such losses that Dumbledore would never ask him.
I am not sure about Credence. My best guess is he is Draco’s grandpa.
He’s the right age and temperament.
Wow i am pretty convinced and i could definitely see this happening. In the first film we see Newt healing Jacob by just using his hands and i think he'd be perfectly fine without his magic, tho i'd be kinda sad if he canonically has no magic
As per usual, I start the video a sceptic and by the end I'm completely sold on this idea.
I think Newt was simply done with openly confronting anyone it's more like he helped Dumbledore in unknown ways during the Harry Potter series + the real reason we don't know about Newt is because this series is an afterthought
In case you haven't noticed, Newt and his beasts stopped making sense after the first movie! Now they're just a reason to call this "a saga"
What's with the hot dog?
British author: How do I make this scene OBVIOUSLY set in America??? Ah! Hot dog!!!
This magic that Credence uses, could be magic caused by thoughts in the movement/space thought mixed with theory thinking, which formed by his anger dwelling in his heart. What I mean is that instead of thinking of punching someone, he has power that listens to his thoughts.
Other people do this but lack power, but most things go unnoticed like Harry's hair. Some break them selves, the rare ones like the Dumbledore family, Girndelwald and Tom Riddle Jr. are geniuses.
Meanwhile the writers for the movies:
Write that down! Write that down!
I actually agree with this to a point. I don’t think it will be Newt who absorbs Credence. I think Credence will sacrifice himself and go into Grindelwald. Which would explain why Grindelwald never escaped Nurmengard. He physically had no ability.
"Don't take sides. That's a weird characteristic for your main character."
Ranboo fans: We know.
‘I’ve met a few incorruptible men,’ said Madam Meserole. ‘They tend to die horrible deaths. The world balances out, you see. A corrupt man in a good world, or a good man in a corrupt one…the equation comes out the same. The world does not deal well with those who don’t pick a side.’
‘I like the middle,’ said Vimes.
‘That gives you two enemies.’
― Terry Pratchett, Night Watch
I think the reason newt wasn’t in the Harry Potter time was honestly just because he was in like his 80s or 90s and he just wasn’t to raise his kids and grandkids with the woman he loves and 3 knezels
Thank you guys for still doing Fantastic Beasts content. I'm definitely still invested although the franchise seems to be losing steam.
"being human can be exhausting" the truest statement ever
The LEGO minifigure version of Tina from the HP minifigure series 1 comes with a hot dog so I have to believe that hot dog is integral to Tina’s character.
To be fair, in the fifth book, Ron and Hermione informs Harry that they believe there to be more than the twenty-something members that they've met, and Moody tells Harry of a rear Advance Guard that was to take over if the initial group were to be attacked, although more or less every identified member of the Order save Sirius Black and the extended Weasley family were in it. So how do we know Newt wasn't in the Order? Newt, Tina and/or Theseus might have passed Ron and Hermione on their way to a meeting, and they didn't realize who these old people were.
At least Tina is eating the hot dog correctly, mustard only. If she had sauerkraut on there as well she’d can a 100% but I’ll give her a solid B+
Newt was either already dead when Harry started school or died during his first/second year at Hogwarts. It could very well be that the theory about the philosophers stone is correct, but the wondering where Newt is has been answered, I believe. He's dead.
If he gives up his magic, could he still see Hogwarts? Would it make him like a squib, or like a muggle? Asking this because of the Prisoner of Azkaban easter egg
Honestly, It feels like when they made the first Fantastic Beast movie, they wanted some big reveal at the very end so they threw in the Grindelwald reveal without thinking of the ramification and implication to the original series. Then they realized this movie was making a killing at the box office so they decided to make it a 5? movie series instead and cobbled together some poorly thought out explanation as to why this movie needs to keep going
Think they were producing the first movie with the "it'll be a 5 film series" thought in mind
Yes, J.K Rowling wrote the script intending for it to have multiple instalments.
Yes Warner brother wants the money
Well, this theory does sound better than having to accept that Newt is a side character in his own story.
I haven’t been this early in a really long time, like years. This is incredibly cool and exciting.
I'm pretty sure newt is gonna stop grindlewald by collecting the infinity stones.
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Great video but I feel like Newt could have charged into the battle of Hogwarts with all his fantastic beast at his side without being magical and would have because again, he does the right thing no matter the cost
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Second, do we know how nagini got to the UK? because she was in a circus in America in the first movie & in the books she meets voldermort in a forest somewherein Europe, right?
And Newt using the stone to survive a basically soul destroying thing might be why Voldemort knew it could work for him later....just a thought
I honestly thought it was obvious why Dumbledore chose Newt to carry on that mission. No, he wasn't a strong wizard like Dumbledore, but powerful enough to handle the beasts, so he knew better. Plus, he is the only one Dumbledore trusted that can travel freely (well.. like have the initiative to go everywhere and hated being jailed at home- that brings Newt as an advantage coz he saw many things- things even Dumbledore couldn't). Remember how the ministry is keeping a very close eyes on Dumbledore. They couldn't do that to Newt apparently.. coz he has always been a free will guy, refused to accept order from anyone. And he has his brother to back him up if he messed up. Perfect person ever. Newt not taking side is pretty obvious too. He wasn't the "save the world" type of hero. He never wanted to get involved in all those mess, due to his introvert self. He only did what he did coz it has to be done and because it's the right thing to do. No idea why people crammed their heads thinking of twisting some things so hard when the answer is already there.
Edit: also, the most possible answer to why Newt wasn't in any of the war in HP is again, he really wasn't the "save the world" type. The Grinderwald thing somehow related to his brother and his friends (plus, Dumbledore asked him and he did it due to respect for Dumbledore- well he didn't really want to but he finally did after losing Leeta. Strong reason enough). This time (Voldemort time), was where he had a family. A family he cared about. We are weak when it comes to protecting them. He can't be wanting to lose them like how he lose Leeta. Involving in that war could mean death to his entire family. I also agree with one of the comments that said he would be too old to get involved anyway (remember his grandson married Luna-take that into timeline and count his age).
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I was actually listening to the Deathly Hollows book this week and got to that line you referenced about the duel not even being a duel, but Grindelwald surrendering. And thought the same thing... could this be true? Since everything Rita wrote was true after all.
Is this some clue to the Fantastic Beasts movies ending?
Honestly the Fantastic Beasts movies are so convoluted at this point, and we're only at the second movie! I hope that everything will eventually be tied up and explained neatly, then again plotholes are what allows you guys to theorise. Alsoalso goodluck on your journey into Fatherdom Ben!! I hope everything goes smoothly for you and Alyce!
Excellent theory. I think he would have to lose his magic because apparition is a thing.
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4:36 That's only 4... I have 5, and my Godfather has 7.