Because if we like or love someone, or have a symphathy for someone, we don't want to put any meaning to the signs or just ignore them. If the person is someone we don't like, we start to suspect and blame the person maybe even without a proper reason. There was a guy that we knew in our city and everybody liked him even when he was living a suspicious life, we did hang out at his apartment and spent a good time with him but the guy was suspicious and as i said nobody put a meaning to that because everybody liked him. The guy turned up to be monster and he ended up in prison. It was shock to everybody but at the same time it wasn’t a surprise because the guy was giving obvious signs but nobody wanted to care about the signs because the guy was cool, decent working man with nice hobbies.
No literally! It’s just so strange watching him show love and affection for a cat when he’s done so much brutal things with those hands. You know what’s even more creepy is the way he’s kissing and petting the cat, refers the way he did with those dead bodies.. he rubbed, AND kissed those dead bodies in the events of his crimes. As they mention in court.
Whoever cast the characters for the Netflix special needs an Oscar because my Gosh….the guy that played Jeffrey, the guy that played his father, the woman that played his grandma and even the two women that played his victims’ mother (the deaf victim) and sister (the one screaming in court), LOOK identical and sound just like the real people. It’s uncanny. 👏🏾👏🏾
It's true! The actors were really well chosen by the production, and this series is a success what makes Evan Peters good to interpret the role of Dahmer is that physically he is young so he can play Dahmer as well at the age of 17 years that at the age of 40 he has a teenage face
Put some respect on "that guys" name if you think he deserves an EMMY (Oscars are for movies). His name is Evan Peters and yes a complete masterpiece performance.
This is a wonderful and useful series as well for families who have started their journey, so that they know the psychological trends of their children and what are the signs and warnings.
@@chrispybattyone5937 No he did not! He did his own interpretation, but as you can clearly see here in this video: Dahmer was able to socialize, wasn't weird 24/7, had some charme, affection and wasn't as stiff and monotonous as portrayed in the show. He looked the part, okay? But he just played Dahmer as a weirdo 24/7 who wasn't capable of blending in, which is of course complete nonsense. Dahmer also was talking way faster. The show portrayed Dahmer as a robot, which is fine, since he was a pos. But Peters didn't nailed the role in it's entirety. Was he creepy and dangerous? Of course! In every second. And he was great in that sense, but it's just not accurate as you can tell by this video. If you meet a person like Dahmer from the show in real life you would absolutely expect him to be a serial killer, but if someone behaves like Dahmer in this video you absoultely couldn't tell. And that's the difference.
Dude, as soon as I heard, "Cousin Jeff" My heart sank. These poor people, he was family to them. I could never imagine me finding out my family member would do something so gruesome.
Being interested in genealogy, I wonder who the child who referred to Jeff as “cousin Jeff” was? Per ancestry, Lionel has a younger sister, so could this child have been Lionel’s sister’s son or daughter?
@@8luvbugI’ve just found out online (via findagrave) that as well as Lionel’s recent passing, his younger sister, a lady called Eunice Zirbel nee Dahmer also died recently at age 84. Her online obituary states that she had three sons. I’m wondering if the small boy could have been Eunice’s youngest son? Also, seeing as Shari is being referred to as “Aunt Shari”, it is also plausible that the young boy might be from her family if it’s not Eunice’s son. I found via ancestry and the 1950 census that Shari has about three younger brothers who may have had children of their own and considered Jeffrey as a cousin…
@@DrzPapi126 dude he deserves the credit he fuckin killed and prob ably will be fucked up from it too. I mean that's the goofy kid from never back down. I never saw him being a top tier actor buuut he is
This is just mind-blowing. He seems like a nice normal guy, very polite. It was like he had 2 sides. 2 very different sides. Evan deserves an award for his portrayal.
Yeah the man that escaped him said sometimes he would tune off for many moments like he wasn’t sitting there, saying nothing. I’m not a serial killer but i do dissociate many times in the day, and this is exactly what if feels like. You just leave the present moment and don’t remember anything that happened at this right moment. I think i heard say JD didn’t remember his murders so yeah he most likely had 2 different personalities.
"i have to start eating at home more" as he starts flipping the pages much faster without even reading them is just kind of surreal knowing whats running through his mind and what he means by that
@@ProDudeFilmsGaming you need to stop judgeing people who you do not know joke? not funny sick? yep ! there are a few of us still alive who know jeffrey and love and miss him something terribly we found him to be sweet kind giving caring loving funny very sensitive about alot of subjects we accepted him as god made him so stop and think before pisting what really can hurt others jeffrey is not to be the subject of jokes he hurt just like everyone else he loved ok not like everyone else but he did love to his ability and myself zac and scott never saw evil in him but this kind of garbage needs to be put to rest so my precious jeffrey can finally have peace which unfortunately he did not have in life WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE AND MISS YOU JEFFREY. SENDING YOU HUGS AND KISSES CATCH THEM BABE AND HOLD THEM CLOSE TO YOUR HEART 💜❤️ LOVE YOU ALWAYS. ALEX ZAC SCOTT
They certainly aren't the conspicuous, purple-cloaked villains we remember from our childhood cartoons. The fact that most are able to blend seamlessly into society makes them so effective and terrifying.
@زنجي i mean that in society he acted polite etc.. behind closed door yeah he did horrible things.. many people said he acted so normal in society and kind and they were shocked when they heard he is a killer
“On Thanksgiving Day, 1990, Shari and I drove up to West Allis to spend the weekend with my mother. Jeff was scheduled to join us there, but he was very late. While we waited, I took out the video camera and filmed a short conversation with my mother. When it was over, she took me on a tour of the house, smiling a little shyly as the camera recorded her progress. She pointed out various rooms, then led me down into the basement. While she spoke, I let the camera pan along the far walls, past shelves of stored goods, and even a door beneath the stairs, one which was still as tightly closed as it had been months before when I had gone down into the basement to search for some clue as to the strange odors that had been continually rising into the main house. There were no odors that day. There had been no odors for quite some time. They had gone with Jeff. Jeff arrived toward the middle of Saturday afternoon. He was dressed very neatly, his hair freshly combed. He wore large glasses, and a cloth jacket which he refused to take off even though the house was very warm. ‘No, no, I’ll just leave it on’, he kept saying, ‘I’ll have to go out for a smoke soon anyway.’ I took up the camera again, and made a videotape of my son. Through the lens I saw a handsome young man who slouched in the large stuffed chair only a few feet from me. He smiled several times and talked about his newfound interest in aquarium fish. He answered my questions politely, and at one point, even got down on the floor and played with my mother’s orange tabby. He seemed to have his life under control. Now, when I look at that video, I see much more than I could possibly have seen before. In the chair, Jeff sits with one leg over the other, a single foot dangling in midair. At each mention of his apartment, his foot twitches slightly. With each mention that i or someone else in the family may drop by to pay him a visit, it twitches. With each mention of what he’s doing now, of how his job is going, of what he does in his spare time- it twitches. Something in his distant, half-dead gaze says, ‘if you only knew’.” -Lionel Dahmer, A Father’s Story
this video was recorded in November 1990? by this time, he was already living in Oxford apartments, right? and he had killed some men. Thank you for the info! poor dad, having a serial killer as a son IS the worst thing that can happen to a father
Hey! I'm reading the book. I love the 1st part! The father is so right when he says his conscience, human being or having heart became dead or they were never Alive! He's a scientist, I love his point of view
This is the most important comment and it should be the top voted. Definitely makes you look at things twice and it’s like they say, hindsight is 20/20. Before reading your comment I didn’t even notice the twitching, although overall he does seem like a nervous/uncomfortable person. After reading this, so odd how his body reacts during certain questions like “what have you been doing lately?” and during mentions of him “cleaning up” his apartment. The reactions are ever so slight. Really shows how good he was at remaining calm on the surface/hiding his demeanor. No wonder he was able to trick and mislead so many people throughout his life.
I think if he came off as weird people wouldn’t be willing to go back to his apartment with him. He just seemed like a normal clean cut guy, people probably never sensed danger from him.
This is so awkward dude…just imagine realizing that one of your family members that you thought was a good person and very outgoing and nice turned out to be a world renowned serial killer it truly shows that some people are not all like they seem.
If he did , then why the heck the Evan's interpretation so awkward?, Jeff seemed more conversational and relaxed. While Evan made every interaction weird and awkward.
Unbelievable to see a serial killer talking so sweetly to his family and petting a cat so gently. He seems like such a nice man which is SO disturbing yet intriguing at the same time.
@@Thais_jeffyit's insane that you can find him adorable after knowing what he's done, I can understand that he looks and probably is genuinely normal and social in this video, but he has killed ppl before this point in his life, nothing adorable about that.
@@pradeepchauhan6784 He didnt talked about the person, he talked about the image that he reflects in that specific sequence. Get your last 2 neurons together and make sure to not miserably fail to understand the basic message that was meant next time
In his father’s book, he points out how after he knew what Jeffrey did, he noticed how nervous he seemed. Anytime they mention his apartment or what he’s been up to, he shifts uncomfortable and his foot moves. I didn’t notice this until after I read this part, but you can clearly see how any mention of his apartment or personal life makes him uncomfortable or awkward knowing what he’s done.
0:48 he’s trying so hard to play normal and nervously flipping through the magazine. Chilling.. and his quick responses like he’s rehearsed in his replies to his family’s questions..
Scream Queen 👑 I Do not care 4 this comment though. You shouldn't make jokes like that, It wasn't funny what happened and he was still a person, So I really don't think that kinda thing is funny
This was thanksgiving 1990. Meaning Dahmer had murdered nine people up to this point. He murdered someone just two months before this video. The way he acts so normal is incredible, in a bad way I mean.
Because he has to put on a mask when with family and on camera, we all know and he knew he wanted to dissect that cat.. it’s very sad that he didn’t get the help he needed from his support system, if they would have looked out for the signs they would have seen it and could have intervened and Jeff could have gotten all the help in a mental hospital…
He seems very good at picking up on the environment and adjusting himself to be as inconspicuous and normie to blend in with his surroundings. He knows what to say to make people comfortable and let their guards down. He’s in perfect control here.
The way he’s flipping pages in the magazine, he’s not looking at, and the fact that he wipes his lips after kissing the cat in that big display of affection for the pet, think he’s way out of control. He’s like a cat on a high wire here.
this seems like a very wrong observation, i dont think he tries to be anything but his weird self, he has no reason to do anything like that, he is human like the rest of us just with a weird hobby on friday nights
Fun fact: Jeffrey gave hints to people that he is a killer. When a taxi driver helped Jeffrey to put a bag in the car the taxi driver asked him if a dead body was in it. And Jeffrey said yes and there was a dead body in bag. Nobody believed him
Worst part about it, is I’m almost 100% certain I would’ve hung out with this guy..he seems like an awkward but nice dude who dosent have any friends..I’m certain if he asked me to swing by and have a few beers I would have without a second thought, not knowing what he’s done, and capable of doing. It’s terrifying how likeable he seems..
He looks confused and nervous and no he doesn't look fit at all. He is flipping through the magazine while answering questions that's a sign he is not in good state of mind.
When I first turned it on I thought peters accent was too strong “no one sounds like that” but the fact he actually did and it sounded so apart from everyone else only heightened my experience of evans acting. The accent that sounded sweet and idk what kinda accent now sounds somehow calculating and sluggish at the same time. I hate to love the show bc yk serial killer. But Jesus it’s constantly impressive to see Evan as dahmer. Seriously a critical preformance he deserves some kind of award
He’s incredibly talented when it comes to accents. Watch him on AHS: Hotel, he plays another serial killer (he’s fictional), James Patrick March. He does this terrific 1930s accent. He’s such an underrated actor.
I was just telling my sister that I really can't usually watch the dramatised versions as they are often not true to what happened or the actual events, but Evan P is absolutely uncanny and had me drawn in every step of it. I really caught myself thinking it was him in some scenes 😳 💗rip to all his victims and their families may they find peace!
Lots of people do that. Many people are uncomfortable being filmed.. And did you know that Dahmer actually felt nervous when he WASN'T killing. Not when he was killing. Fake psychologists thinking turning a page without looking at it is an indicator someone is a killer is just hilarious.
People just like to do something with their hands especially when they feel watched for example being filmed it’s not always nervousness it just awkward
@@Freetown00 I know its a magazine, but he was flipping the pages backwards, again I know its a magazine and u dont have to read them in order but still lol
"Cousin Jeff " - 😢 💔 and the way he smiles so warmly at the little one and says hey. This man was their family. I cannot begin to imagine or appreciate the horrors they felt and faced when this all came out. I really can't.
I’m a family history geek at the moment and I am wondering if the child in the “it’s cousin Jeff” video could be maybe 🤔 the youngest child of Lionel’s sister Eunice? Or if not, a child of one of Shari’s siblings who despite not being related to Jeffrey still called him a cousin anyway due to Shari and Lionel being married
@@The315fanLionel’s younger sister Eunice DID have a son, Dean Zirbel, but he died at aged 6 in 1971. This video was recorded in 1990. It could be that she has another son that is still alive, or it’s as you said, it’s one of Shari’s sibling’s kids. OR, it could be his cousin’s child, so his 2nd cousin.
I feel really bad for his family, specially for his father, he tried to help him even more than we can see in Dahmer, the serie, he really loved his son, no matter what
@@cjflowers8573 It was an activity he and his father bonded over. I don't see anything wrong with it because his father was trying to encourage his interest in science.
@@cjflowers8573 maybe weird, but is not a bad thing, it was the only thing Jeff seemed to have interest in, his father used to work with similar things
He seems fine, if a little edgy but the way he’s handling that magazine shows to much inner tension. I think around this point he knew he couldn’t sustain his veneer of sanity for much longer his apt was a literal hell hole. This had to be towards the end.
He had killed 9 people when this was filmed. He had heads and body parts in the apartment at that exact moment in time where he says he has to clean the place before his dad should visit. In 10 weeks he would keep killing again. All this from what appears to be such a down home, dorky, harmless, sweetheart of a man. It's hard to wrap the mind around this one.
The actors really got the voices down beautifully. I don't understand how Evan peters has not won some type of award yet, he always plays dark characters, but damn, does he do a good job
This is so eerie and oddly moving to watch. One of the most iconic and vicious cannibalistic serial killers in history, and here he is just chilling with his family, hanging out in a living room for what looks like a Thanksgiving get-together. It's a haunting reminder that, for all the pain he caused to 17 young men and their families, Jeff was also a human being himself, capable of sitting in a room with his loved ones and carrying on a mundane, "I've been surviving off McDonald's" conversation.
No matter what kind of person you are: when there is a cat lying on the floor you will lay down next to it and pet it~ (OK obviously not people who hate cats, I get it, no need to comment that 5 million times😂)
You can see how uncomfortable he is and how he's constantly thinking. His family sounds too credulous to see how distant and disturbed he really is though
@@Persei1 he's not uncomfortable because he's being filmed. He's uncomfortable because he's in that environment, which in turn is causing him to over think.
kinda odd to see a serial killer just acting casual and living their lives. usually the only time you see serial killers they're getting interviewed by police and stuff, but here he's just seems like your average dude.
Oh my god the actor sounds exactly like Dahmer, this entire series was so amazing and casted better than any documentary I've ever seen. It was just so insanely accurate.
When people say "Ted Bundy looks charming & can be trust". But Jeffrey Dahmer can lure 17 men into his apartment, it's crazy to hear. Because he's very attractive, handsome, tall & can be trust... RIP TO ALL 17 VICTIMS & JEFF...
This is the very first time I seen him not being interviewed in a prison. He's with his family members. To be sitting next to a person like him being so calm and "nice" but not knowing he had drugged, raped murdered and ate his victims is bizarre. A lot of serial killers just tend to look like ordinary people, being with family and having regular jobs. They just want to blend in with the crowd so people don't know what and who they truly are. It's scary seeing him get along with his family members in this footage, knowing what's happened. Seeing the new jeffrey dahmer Netflix series made it like he was back alive. Evan Peter's played him so well to his voice, to his awkward mannerisms, and portrayed such an evil person that once walked on this earth. Had he have never been caught, he'd still fool everyone around him. He is very eerie. Rip to all the victims ❣️
I wonder how that little boy Danny feels about cousin Jeff now. Jeff was arrested just 8 months later. Danny was a young kid then but he has to be around 40 now. This video is so wholesome, just Jeff chilling with his family. It seemed like things were going well for him. I can understand how his father was unaware of how sick and far off the deep end he was.
I found that Lionel’s sister passed away in October. Her online obituary states that she has three sons, one of whom being called Dan. Search Eunice Zirbel obituary on Google
The sheer number of emotional victims outside of the actual victim. count is staggering. I have watched many docs on Dahmer and thought I knew the full story. This series was amazingly done and caught quite a few sides that I had not thought of. The number of mistakes made and overlooking behavior allowed the killing to continue unhindered. The dad trued so hard to take the blame, that was heartbreaking.
If he would've took his son in instead of sending him to his grandmother's house and been a real dad maybe his vile son wouldn't have got away with killing so many people
Yea but they should’ve just left it alone but of course Netflix wanted to make money without the victims families even knowing because (corrupt companies and people that don’t care) Hollywood is so disgusting I can’t believe we’re making trends off memes based off serial killers
Imagine being all the people in this video looking back on these videos and times and realizing they were actually in the presence of one of the most prolific serial killers the world has ever known. I dont believe they were in any danger because Dahmer had a certain type of person he liked to kill when he was blasted drunk, but that realization had to be mind numbingly life changing.
I think most of the people in the video are related to him which is just devastating. Like imagine being the small boy that was the cousin of him and I can't imagine how his aunt must have felt and how do you say that to a small boy like you can't just say " by the way your cousin won't be coming to family meetings anymore he murdered many people "
@@edwardjones2202 tbh I’ve never really heard of a lot of South American killers. I feel it’s different there bc of how their government is, the police being payed off. I know a lot of them have higher numbers but I remember killers like Jeff bc of the documentation on their cases, you don’t Really see that in southern American killers
What’s crazy is at 1:22 when his dad mentioned his apartment jeff was subtly making an excuse for them not to come over ‘I haven’t done any dusting or vacuuming’ he wanted no part of anyone being in his sanctuary so to speak. Good chance there was body parts lying all over the place. Spine tingling.
He actually kept it quite clean. At first view you wouldn't have seen anything suspicious, he would keep the body parts in specific places and out of sight. Except for his bedroom, where he had some bones and skulls (the visible stuff, he had some other hidden).
Now i am totally in shock. I would have fallen for him, because he looked good on pictures. I thought to myself, maybe my inner alarm system would have warned me, if i‘d met him in person and talked to him. But no, he comes across as so normal, even pleasant. And then i would have looked out how animals react to him. He was so sweet with the cat. This is really unsettling. One can’t see who is a murderer.
@@cube5750 im not gay...but he could have prayed on women more easily imo because they sre puddy in your hands if you just look the right esy and say the right things
I'm old enough to remember just how awkward people were back then when home movies were still a thing and nobody, including the person holding the camera, knew how to act and were visibly nervous while being filmed. The cameras were big and clunky, black plastic cinder blocks with a glaringly bright light which made it feel like an interrogation instead of a warm family moment. It was one of the founding pillars of the cringe we know today.
I was born in 1988 and I watched the home movies made from my early birthdays and you're right nobody knew how to act or knew what to say. It was like some extremely low budget movie with wooden acting.
You can tell Lionel was a great father and tried to bond with his son any way he knew how. Unfortunately Jeffrey’s hobbies ended up being more morbid than innocent. I feel the medication his mother was on while pregnant contributed to his pathological issues. If you look at the Nick Cruz case, his mother took illigal street drugs and also become a murderer. Not that everyone who is exposed to drugs in the wound would end up with psychological issues but I think in certain cases it could. What do you think?
The drugs can definitely do some damage but then again their younger son came out fine. But I believe there may be some undiagnosed damage to the second son. He may not be a serial killer but he wouldn’t be as healthy minded as he could have been. If that makes sense. They also touched on the part where his dad had some violent thoughts when younger, which he explained sorrowfully. But he never acted on those thoughts. This could explain the genes part. Usually genes need to be passed for people who show antisocial personality from a young age.
It didn't have shyt to do with hìs mom medication. This evil monster opened himself up to being demon possessed through obsessing about having dominant sex with men
He tried to bond with him doing an activity that made him have those “thoughts” how is he a great father he abandoned him. Jeffery tried to tell him about his fantasies, but the dad didn’t want to listen at all. Another reason why the mother didn’t want to stay the father had communication issues.
@@Mysincerehairllc I believe he was a good father. I would imagine at the least the there is a child in your life that is into things that not all kids are before forming that opinion? He did what he could to bond with a child who had bizarre interests. Who believes their child is going to be a murderer? Especially back then. I didn’t say he was perfect. People have faults, lots of fathers including my own had a period of being absent. I still believe that my father was a good father. And as far as listening to what he was going through, this is because Lionel was a devout Christian who knew his son was gay and he didn’t want to hear it because of the way he felt about homosexuality. He cared about his son though and the mother seemed awful, while the father at the least tried his best.
You’ve got a few things wrong. Jeffries mother was on prescription medication not street stuff. Lionel was mostly responsible for Jeffery. His father ignored all the red flags. Ignored him as a whole. Swept everything under the rug. A lot could have been avoided if Lionel didn’t want to just “not hear about it”.
I've seen many interviews with serial killers and a lot of just Dahmer. There is something that just appears a lot more normal about him at a face value then other killers. Which is crazy because you could argue he was one of the most bizzare.
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Can we get more context on this video? You provided absolutely nothing on who was recording or when this was.
Jeff dahmer is a very good example of the following " you could know someone your whole life and still not know everything about them!"
It's the red flags
trueee
Because if we like or love someone, or have a symphathy for someone, we don't want to put any meaning to the signs or just ignore them. If the person is someone we don't like, we start to suspect and blame the person maybe even without a proper reason. There was a guy that we knew in our city and everybody liked him even when he was living a suspicious life, we did hang out at his apartment and spent a good time with him but the guy was suspicious and as i said nobody put a meaning to that because everybody liked him. The guy turned up to be monster and he ended up in prison. It was shock to everybody but at the same time it wasn’t a surprise because the guy was giving obvious signs but nobody wanted to care about the signs because the guy was cool, decent working man with nice hobbies.
Thats how it should be
They knew something was off. They all always said Dahmer was weird. They all knew and chose not to.
evan even sounds like him. please give this actor some award!! he deserved this like no one else
The same tone of voice and body movements, he deserves to win best acting performance.
You’re right! Evans did an amazing job!!
Is the video shot by his father?
@@zenab92 this particular one,yes.
@@zenab92 you can actually recognize it cause it’s almost the same on the Netflix series.
The actor who played his father should win an award!! He got him down pat!!!
Yes! Everyone going on about Evan. Jenkins really did a phenomenal job of playing Lionel! Got it down to a tee!
It was the dad off step brothers lol
@@mack11beats Really? If so, he gained lots of weight since Step Brothers.
@@coreynelsonmusic either that or they made him like that but yea I believe it’s him Forsure
he acted just like he did in step brothers
Seeing him lay on the floor to embrace, pet and kiss a cat with such gentleless and tender is kinda sad knowing who he is.
No literally! It’s just so strange watching him show love and affection for a cat when he’s done so much brutal things with those hands. You know what’s even more creepy is the way he’s kissing and petting the cat, refers the way he did with those dead bodies.. he rubbed, AND kissed those dead bodies in the events of his crimes. As they mention in court.
He loved animals
@@sienna126 so he loved you
Just proves how manipulating and two faced he was
@@Weldd what a stupid comment.
Whoever cast the characters for the Netflix special needs an Oscar because my Gosh….the guy that played Jeffrey, the guy that played his father, the woman that played his grandma and even the two women that played his victims’ mother (the deaf victim) and sister (the one screaming in court), LOOK identical and sound just like the real people. It’s uncanny. 👏🏾👏🏾
Yes, the sound is impressive. Thats why dubbing should not exists.
It's true! The actors were really well chosen by the production, and this series is a success what makes Evan Peters good to interpret the role of Dahmer is that physically he is young so he can play Dahmer as well at the age of 17 years that at the age of 40 he has a teenage face
The guy who played Jeff is an incredible actor. Watch his range in American Horror Story. My top 3 anthology on TV
Put some respect on "that guys" name if you think he deserves an EMMY (Oscars are for movies). His name is Evan Peters and yes a complete masterpiece performance.
Yes very impressive .
McDonald’s? I thought he’d be more into Five Guys.
Lol
Ohhhhhh!!!
This comment deserves more credit!
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Omg this was soooo funny 😆 😄 🤣 😂
Holy crap Richard Jenkins sounds exactly like Dahmer's dad
my first thought
He did a phenomenal job
This is a wonderful and useful series as well for families who have started their journey, so that they know the psychological trends of their children and what are the signs and warnings.
How about Evan Peters, he nailed Jeffrey perfectly!
@@chrispybattyone5937 No he did not! He did his own interpretation, but as you can clearly see here in this video: Dahmer was able to socialize, wasn't weird 24/7, had some charme, affection and wasn't as stiff and monotonous as portrayed in the show. He looked the part, okay? But he just played Dahmer as a weirdo 24/7 who wasn't capable of blending in, which is of course complete nonsense. Dahmer also was talking way faster. The show portrayed Dahmer as a robot, which is fine, since he was a pos. But Peters didn't nailed the role in it's entirety. Was he creepy and dangerous? Of course! In every second. And he was great in that sense, but it's just not accurate as you can tell by this video. If you meet a person like Dahmer from the show in real life you would absolutely expect him to be a serial killer, but if someone behaves like Dahmer in this video you absoultely couldn't tell. And that's the difference.
Dude, as soon as I heard, "Cousin Jeff" My heart sank. These poor people, he was family to them. I could never imagine me finding out my family member would do something so gruesome.
It’s a really sad story
Being interested in genealogy, I wonder who the child who referred to Jeff as “cousin Jeff” was? Per ancestry, Lionel has a younger sister, so could this child have been Lionel’s sister’s son or daughter?
@@The315fanThat kid is most likely his 2nd cousin. That kid is too young to be Lionel's sister's son.
Familiy still been family
@@8luvbugI’ve just found out online (via findagrave) that as well as Lionel’s recent passing, his younger sister, a lady called Eunice Zirbel nee Dahmer also died recently at age 84. Her online obituary states that she had three sons. I’m wondering if the small boy could have been Eunice’s youngest son?
Also, seeing as Shari is being referred to as “Aunt Shari”, it is also plausible that the young boy might be from her family if it’s not Eunice’s son. I found via ancestry and the 1950 census that Shari has about three younger brothers who may have had children of their own and considered Jeffrey as a cousin…
Evan Peter's was the perfect person to cast for this docu series. He even sounds just like him!!
Enough blowing already
Tremendous
Evan peters is an amazing actor
Sounds exactly like him.
@@DrzPapi126 dude he deserves the credit he fuckin killed and prob ably will be fucked up from it too. I mean that's the goofy kid from never back down. I never saw him being a top tier actor buuut he is
Jeffrey was more likely surviving on McDonald's customers.
Lmao
Ha!
Underrated comment.
Hehe
Lmaooooo bye
This is just mind-blowing. He seems like a nice normal guy, very polite. It was like he had 2 sides. 2 very different sides. Evan deserves an award for his portrayal.
Yeah the man that escaped him said sometimes he would tune off for many moments like he wasn’t sitting there, saying nothing. I’m not a serial killer but i do dissociate many times in the day, and this is exactly what if feels like. You just leave the present moment and don’t remember anything that happened at this right moment. I think i heard say JD didn’t remember his murders so yeah he most likely had 2 different personalities.
@@rachou971 he didn’t remember some of his murders due to the large amount of alcohol he consumed (blackouts)
Indeed
@@rachou971 You sure you're not a serial killer?
Maybe u can't remember? 🤣
Y’all are forgetting jd was Gemini right two different sides
"i have to start eating at home more" as he starts flipping the pages much faster without even reading them is just kind of surreal knowing whats running through his mind and what he means by that
😂😂😂
I sense his rage at daddy
He made some yummy food at home
Noticed that too
@@ProDudeFilmsGaming you need to stop judgeing people who you do not know joke? not funny sick? yep ! there are a few of us still alive who know jeffrey and love and miss him something terribly we found him to be sweet kind giving caring loving funny very sensitive about alot of subjects we accepted him as god made him so stop and think before pisting what really can hurt others jeffrey is not to be the subject of jokes he hurt just like everyone else he loved ok not like everyone else but he did love to his ability and myself zac and scott never saw evil in him but this kind of garbage needs to be put to rest so my precious jeffrey can finally have peace which unfortunately he did not have in life WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE AND MISS YOU JEFFREY. SENDING YOU HUGS AND KISSES CATCH THEM BABE AND HOLD THEM CLOSE TO YOUR HEART 💜❤️ LOVE YOU ALWAYS. ALEX ZAC SCOTT
It’s hard to imagine evil people living so normally.
just goes to show how scary humans are
They certainly aren't the conspicuous, purple-cloaked villains we remember from our childhood cartoons. The fact that most are able to blend seamlessly into society makes them so effective and terrifying.
They adapted to the current environment. We all do this, you cant act in public the way you act home. He took it to another level tho.
people do it all the time
evil people are often the most normal people around
Evan Peters nailed this! Give the man an award already!
couldn't agree more !!! brilliant
No he didn’t act like Dahmer at all.. real Dahmer was polite and didn’t act like a creep..
@زنجي i mean that in society he acted polite etc.. behind closed door yeah he did horrible things.. many people said he acted so normal in society and kind and they were shocked when they heard he is a killer
The jeffery Dalmer award
@@AnnaF33 you’re such a weird ass lady defending Dahmer in every comment thread
“On Thanksgiving Day, 1990, Shari and I drove up to West Allis to spend the weekend with my mother. Jeff was scheduled to join us there, but he was very late. While we waited, I took out the video camera and filmed a short conversation with my mother. When it was over, she took me on a tour of the house, smiling a little shyly as the camera recorded her progress. She pointed out various rooms, then led me down into the basement. While she spoke, I let the camera pan along the far walls, past shelves of stored goods, and even a door beneath the stairs, one which was still as tightly closed as it had been months before when I had gone down into the basement to search for some clue as to the strange odors that had been continually rising into the main house. There were no odors that day. There had been no odors for quite some time. They had gone with Jeff.
Jeff arrived toward the middle of Saturday afternoon. He was dressed very neatly, his hair freshly combed. He wore large glasses, and a cloth jacket which he refused to take off even though the house was very warm. ‘No, no, I’ll just leave it on’, he kept saying, ‘I’ll have to go out for a smoke soon anyway.’
I took up the camera again, and made a videotape of my son. Through the lens I saw a handsome young man who slouched in the large stuffed chair only a few feet from me.
He smiled several times and talked about his newfound interest in aquarium fish. He answered my questions politely, and at one point, even got down on the floor and played with my mother’s orange tabby. He seemed to have his life under control.
Now, when I look at that video, I see much more than I could possibly have seen before. In the chair, Jeff sits with one leg over the other, a single foot dangling in midair. At each mention of his apartment, his foot twitches slightly. With each mention that i or someone else in the family may drop by to pay him a visit, it twitches. With each mention of what he’s doing now, of how his job is going, of what he does in his spare time- it twitches. Something in his distant, half-dead gaze says, ‘if you only knew’.”
-Lionel Dahmer, A Father’s Story
I would be interested in reading Lionel’s book. I am in the UK 🇬🇧
Lionel Dahmer is FULL OF SHIT. There is absolutely nothing in that video that was suspicious.
this video was recorded in November 1990? by this time, he was already living in Oxford apartments, right? and he had killed some men. Thank you for the info! poor dad, having a serial killer as a son IS the worst thing that can happen to a father
Hey! I'm reading the book. I love the 1st part! The father is so right when he says his conscience, human being or having heart became dead or they were never Alive! He's a scientist, I love his point of view
This is the most important comment and it should be the top voted. Definitely makes you look at things twice and it’s like they say, hindsight is 20/20.
Before reading your comment I didn’t even notice the twitching, although overall he does seem like a nervous/uncomfortable person.
After reading this, so odd how his body reacts during certain questions like “what have you been doing lately?” and during mentions of him “cleaning up” his apartment.
The reactions are ever so slight. Really shows how good he was at remaining calm on the surface/hiding his demeanor. No wonder he was able to trick and mislead so many people throughout his life.
Hmm he's not as awkward and weird as the show portrays him
Yes he is lmaooo
Ikr 🤔
He is lol but he's not awkward with his family or people he knows from what I observed
I think if he came off as weird people wouldn’t be willing to go back to his apartment with him. He just seemed like a normal clean cut guy, people probably never sensed danger from him.
@@JBbradshaw24 I wouldn't sense danger from him 😂 but atleast I'm a white girl so he probably wouldn't kill me 😭
This is so awkward dude…just imagine realizing that one of your family members that you thought was a good person and very outgoing and nice turned out to be a world renowned serial killer it truly shows that some people are not all like they seem.
Worldwide? How so?
@@dewilew2137 I believe they meant world-renowned
He seems weird nothing normal about his personality
@@jojosaylor8996 yeah your right! And the way he’s petting that cat heck no get away from that kitty!
Shocking
I wonder how many times Evan Peters watched this video; dude did an incredible job at portraying Dahmer.
I keep forgetting he is not the real Dahmer. He did a great job. To the T...
He watched plenty videos to get the real guy demeanor. That’s how movies work guys
@@kewananedd969 the real dahmer is long dead.. so I know you're not serious
If he did , then why the heck the Evan's interpretation so awkward?, Jeff seemed more conversational and relaxed. While Evan made every interaction weird and awkward.
People keep saying this but I feel like they protrayed him to be much more quiet and odd in the show than he seems in these videos
Jeffrey sounds like the guy you could just relax and watch your favorite exorcist move with all night long
😄😄😄
Yea... Just watch out if his wipping back and forth intensifies - if not, you're good.
😂
💀💀💀
In a way he was I guess
Unbelievable to see a serial killer talking so sweetly to his family and petting a cat so gently. He seems like such a nice man which is SO disturbing yet intriguing at the same time.
Isn´t Jeff so adorable?? 🤗🤗
@@Thais_jeffyit's insane that you can find him adorable after knowing what he's done, I can understand that he looks and probably is genuinely normal and social in this video, but he has killed ppl before this point in his life, nothing adorable about that.
@@pradeepchauhan6784 He didnt talked about the person, he talked about the image that he reflects in that specific sequence. Get your last 2 neurons together and make sure to not miserably fail to understand the basic message that was meant next time
@@pradeepchauhan6784this man was neglected and abused his whole childhood that’s why
@@Thais_jeffy what a sick person you are, literally have the mindset of an edgy little girl that would even fall in love with a cow.
I cannot distinguish between Jeffrey and his father’s actual voices and the actors that played them. Wow.
@@parfumextraitfan7453 please never comment again
No gonna lie I've always wanted to be jeffrey dahmer he had a lot of fun
@@lennyhenry9773 💀
@@lennyhenry9773 bro.
@@lennyhenry9773tf💀💀
In his father’s book, he points out how after he knew what Jeffrey did, he noticed how nervous he seemed. Anytime they mention his apartment or what he’s been up to, he shifts uncomfortable and his foot moves. I didn’t notice this until after I read this part, but you can clearly see how any mention of his apartment or personal life makes him uncomfortable or awkward knowing what he’s done.
Yeah he is clearly uncomfotable here. He is just there to be polite he rather be in his fantasy world.
0:48 he’s trying so hard to play normal and nervously flipping through the magazine. Chilling.. and his quick responses like he’s rehearsed in his replies to his family’s questions..
I thought he was lonely and no family around him... I read the reason he did his killing spree was because he wanted his victim to be with him forever
But did you also notice his answers were smooth. No pausing, clear and straight forward.
"Surviving on McDonald's" yeah maybe the employees 💀
Dude wtf…
SORRY BUT LMFAO
Lmaooooo
Scream Queen 👑 I Do not care 4 this comment though. You shouldn't make jokes like that, It wasn't funny what happened and he was still a person, So I really don't think that kinda thing is funny
🤣😂🤣😂
I can't... he's so gentle with that cat. He seems to really love him. It's so strange to realize that this same man is a homicidal maniac.
Yep, the Dr. Jekyl Mr. Hyde thing is fairly common among serial killers. And what makes them so dangerous...
He's the Love of my Life..
@@Thais_jeffywasn't Jeffrey Gay?😅
@@iblamejosey and
Yeah he was, well a closet gay, however some of his crazy fans can’t seem to accept that. Plus he’s been dead for almost 30 years too!
This was thanksgiving 1990. Meaning Dahmer had murdered nine people up to this point. He murdered someone just two months before this video. The way he acts so normal is incredible, in a bad way I mean.
How he is so gentle with the cat. How weird and terribly troubled he was. His father seemed so kind too. 😊
its just scary cause there was something else on his mind
Because he has to put on a mask when with family and on camera, we all know and he knew he wanted to dissect that cat.. it’s very sad that he didn’t get the help he needed from his support system, if they would have looked out for the signs they would have seen it and could have intervened and Jeff could have gotten all the help in a mental hospital…
Well, it's pretending. We all do it.
However he still can be kind to the cat, even if a killer.
he was blending in
There’s people around, he has to appear “normal”.
“That’s cousin Jeff”. Imagine finding out all the weird shit he did while having to be related to him
That wasn’t my cousin after that 😭
I read his cousins are weird too
*all the cool shit. There fixed it for ya
@@NoahCanFB Red flag....FBI open up.
I believe his cousin is currently on the sex offenders register in Florida.
He seems very good at picking up on the environment and adjusting himself to be as inconspicuous and normie to blend in with his surroundings. He knows what to say to make people comfortable and let their guards down. He’s in perfect control here.
He was in control but out of control in different ways imo
The way he’s flipping pages in the magazine, he’s not looking at, and the fact that he wipes his lips after kissing the cat in that big display of affection for the pet, think he’s way out of control. He’s like a cat on a high wire here.
this seems like a very wrong observation, i dont think he tries to be anything but his weird self, he has no reason to do anything like that, he is human like the rest of us just with a weird hobby on friday nights
@@skittles.abuser Ele era tudo, menos um humano normal. Hobbie? Ele ASSASSINOU 17 rapazes!
"I've got to start eating at home more." baaahahaha and he did it well.
Your not funny
@@mattt7197 You're* 🤷♀️
Jeff didnt buy groceries but got free man meat
17 men Marilyn. 17 men
Fun fact: Jeffrey gave hints to people that he is a killer. When a taxi driver helped Jeffrey to put a bag in the car the taxi driver asked him if a dead body was in it. And Jeffrey said yes and there was a dead body in bag. Nobody believed him
1:13 damn look at him get agitated for a second about his apartment, that has dead people cut up in it
He looks so uncomfortable
As if the father knew...
I noticed him move up in his seat when his dad said about seeing his apartment that was never going to happen
Yeah, people saying he looks so normal here. No he doesn't he looks uneasy, suspicious, and a bit peeved
@@8luvbugexactly
Worst part about it, is I’m almost 100% certain I would’ve hung out with this guy..he seems like an awkward but nice dude who dosent have any friends..I’m certain if he asked me to swing by and have a few beers I would have without a second thought, not knowing what he’s done, and capable of doing. It’s terrifying how likeable he seems..
Well now you know what you should not be doing
He did frequent gay bars often
Te vez guapo y el jef le tira un ojo 👁 a vos
@@sheherbano9470You clearly did not get the point
That's the crazy thing tho is like seems so friends but awkward you'd never think about it and especially if u were drunk aswell
Something about these videos is so cozy. I guess it's just that 80s vibe.
The scene with Jeffrey and the cat was filmed the 1990, however the other clips may have been filmed in the 1980s as you say
Grandma “You look nice and fit.”
Jeffrey “Oh that’s good to hear. I’ve been eating a lot of healthy young men…. um I mean eating healthy”.
😂
It’s a good thing they never did a surprise visit
Well... If they had, he probably would have been stopped earlier...
@@torstensandvei4973 so this was taken from his apartment? Damn
@@felixdom9693 no. Family home.
@@Alb3rt951 Parent's home? Was this filmed in Ohio at his parents?
@@smokingthereefer92 This was at grandma's house I believe. After he'd moved out and went to his own apartment
He looks confused and nervous and no he doesn't look fit at all. He is flipping through the magazine while answering questions that's a sign he is not in good state of mind.
Here he is much more socially skilled than how Netflix depicts him.
He was not as akward in real life, he was pretty much normal yet a little shy
@@brugueshj559 ...which actually made him even more dangerous
When I first turned it on I thought peters accent was too strong “no one sounds like that” but the fact he actually did and it sounded so apart from everyone else only heightened my experience of evans acting. The accent that sounded sweet and idk what kinda accent now sounds somehow calculating and sluggish at the same time. I hate to love the show bc yk serial killer. But Jesus it’s constantly impressive to see Evan as dahmer. Seriously a critical preformance he deserves some kind of award
He’s incredibly talented when it comes to accents. Watch him on AHS: Hotel, he plays another serial killer (he’s fictional), James Patrick March. He does this terrific 1930s accent. He’s such an underrated actor.
I was just telling my sister that I really can't usually watch the dramatised versions as they are often not true to what happened or the actual events, but Evan P is absolutely uncanny and had me drawn in every step of it. I really caught myself thinking it was him in some scenes 😳 💗rip to all his victims and their families may they find peace!
u must b from up north bc thats NOT a southern accent at ALL 😹 . its a milwaukee accent lol .
@@liluzimez yea no I’m from the west I knew I didn’t know so I just said southern bc I was sure ppl knew what I meant
Evans didn't sound like Dahmer. Period.
0:34 "There is nothing to indicate really that he had recently killed people" 0:48 - He turns the pages without looking...
Good eye, he was nervous
Yes that’s what I spotted. It’s a small thing but it’s a definite sign of inner turmoil.
Lots of people do that. Many people are uncomfortable being filmed.. And did you know that Dahmer actually felt nervous when he WASN'T killing. Not when he was killing. Fake psychologists thinking turning a page without looking at it is an indicator someone is a killer is just hilarious.
People just like to do something with their hands especially when they feel watched for example being filmed it’s not always nervousness it just awkward
Maybe going by some ads/sales he wasn’t interested in?
He even reads the magazine like a serial killer lol
Everyone flips through magazines like that. No one actually reads it
@@Freetown00 I know its a magazine, but he was flipping the pages backwards, again I know its a magazine and u dont have to read them in order but still lol
you could tell he had bpd and anger issues flipping pages like that
He looks like he’s not even looking at it just looking busy so he can correctly look normal.
@@nabihanasar3577 I ALWAYS do that, even when I read the text, which is kinda... dumb actually.
"Cousin Jeff " - 😢 💔 and the way he smiles so warmly at the little one and says hey. This man was their family. I cannot begin to imagine or appreciate the horrors they felt and faced when this all came out. I really can't.
I’m a family history geek at the moment and I am wondering if the child in the “it’s cousin Jeff” video could be maybe 🤔 the youngest child of Lionel’s sister Eunice? Or if not, a child of one of Shari’s siblings who despite not being related to Jeffrey still called him a cousin anyway due to Shari and Lionel being married
@@The315fanLionel’s younger sister Eunice DID have a son, Dean Zirbel, but he died at aged 6 in 1971. This video was recorded in 1990.
It could be that she has another son that is still alive, or it’s as you said, it’s one of Shari’s sibling’s kids.
OR, it could be his cousin’s child, so his 2nd cousin.
Historical fact: Dahmer was arrested 30 years ago, tonight.
No that was last year...
@@M60gunner1971 no shit?
@@M60gunner1971 lol considering the original commenter posted this...last year 🤔 😅
@@VeenaMichelle thats the humor quasi dumbass.
@@m_-.430 hey you got the stick out of your ass, good job!
He gave a whole new meaning to “I have to start eating at home more.”
And 'skeletons in the closet' as well
@@ST-yc7uj Having a friend over for dinner.
I feel really bad for his family, specially for his father, he tried to help him even more than we can see in Dahmer, the serie, he really loved his son, no matter what
He loved him so much that he taught him it's okay to grab roadkill, take it home and dissect it. Genius fathering skills.
@@cjflowers8573 It was an activity he and his father bonded over. I don't see anything wrong with it because his father was trying to encourage his interest in science.
@@cjflowers8573 maybe weird, but is not a bad thing, it was the only thing Jeff seemed to have interest in, his father used to work with similar things
@@cjflowers8573 I get why he wanted his son to have a hobby, but most “normal” young kids would want to puke at the idea of dissecting animals
@@cjflowers8573 Genius comment from the sideline :S
He already had molestation on his record by this time so that family gathering couldn't have been totally comfortable for them.
Gave me chills when he was talking about cleaning up his apartment so they can visit..
"I'm gonna have to start eating at home more" no, Jeff, eat more mcdonalds.....
Lol seriously 😐
He seems fine, if a little edgy but the way he’s handling that magazine shows to much inner tension. I think around this point he knew he couldn’t sustain his veneer of sanity for much longer his apt was a literal hell hole. This had to be towards the end.
Huh huh huh, you said wiener
Exactly, he wasnt reading that magazine.
He had killed 9 people when this was filmed. He had heads and body parts in the apartment at that exact moment in time where he says he has to clean the place before his dad should visit. In 10 weeks he would keep killing again. All this from what appears to be such a down home, dorky, harmless, sweetheart of a man. It's hard to wrap the mind around this one.
Chilling
Jeffrey Dahmer is the only serial killer who got under my skin for exact reasons you mentioned. He's such a peculiar and strange case.
Gotta love his immediate "no" when they said it looks like he was working out lmao
Yeah hahahah he’s so quirky shut the fuck up
Lmfao
@@languagexd1291 what?!
@@languagexd1291 makes no sense.
“Working out”.. is that what the kids are calling it these days? 😅🤦🏽♀️
Love these home videos; thanks for posting!
Imagine the McDonald’s worker that served him everyday seeing him on the news
I don't think he was eating McDonald's
@@Horror_Themed he was eating people
All the local McDonald's in Dahmer’s town watching this vid like: 😵💫’He never visited this McDonald’s’😵💫
Pulled pork sandwiches
He was eating Donald
DAD:"What have you being doing lately?" Jeff: "Killing, Killing Killing and Killing"...
0:23 when his dad is describing him and Jeff's talking they sound alike like it blends in.
They sound so dead and boring
@@jeffreycastor5542 Lionel is more like his son than he rather admit
@@mariahyohannes He also use to think of killing people when he was a child as well. Read that somewhere many years ago
Sons usually sound like their dad lol I know I do
@@jeffreycastor5542 how are they suppose to sound
The actors really got the voices down beautifully. I don't understand how Evan peters has not won some type of award yet, he always plays dark characters, but damn, does he do a good job
he actually finally won an Emmy last year but yeah he definitely deserves more.
What do You mean? The show's been up for a little over the week. Give it some time
Why does everyone sound so desperate for Evans to get a reward chill out its only just came out
@@kamrates they don’t mean for dahmer
@@samuelsmall991 ok, but he won Emmy award before which is pretty big deal, so i assumed this commenter meant award for the role of dahmer
That cat was like...I know what you are..
Cats are serial killers themselves 🤣
I was thinking the same thing 😂
@@DanielleRubi90 👍
@@Persei1 takes one to know one lol
Totally
This is so eerie and oddly moving to watch. One of the most iconic and vicious cannibalistic serial killers in history, and here he is just chilling with his family, hanging out in a living room for what looks like a Thanksgiving get-together. It's a haunting reminder that, for all the pain he caused to 17 young men and their families, Jeff was also a human being himself, capable of sitting in a room with his loved ones and carrying on a mundane, "I've been surviving off McDonald's" conversation.
I wouldn’t use the word “Iconic” to describe a serial killer and a cannibal!
@@Yes-bp1vwnobody knows or uses the correct meaning of iconic anymore, apparently.
This is just complete horseshit what you wrote.
No matter what kind of person you are: when there is a cat lying on the floor you will lay down next to it and pet it~
(OK obviously not people who hate cats, I get it, no need to comment that 5 million times😂)
I thought that was a dog?
@@carpediem6842 nah, it’s a cat ~
Lol you made me laugh out loud. He wanted complete control over his victims, but cat controlled him. Meow. They are adorable.
@@turdeyeblind Yeah, you have no heart lol.
Lol
You can see how uncomfortable he is and how he's constantly thinking. His family sounds too credulous to see how distant and disturbed he really is though
Lots of people think constantly... And lots of people are uncomfortable being filmed. That doesn't make someone disturbed or a serial killer.
@@Persei1 he's not uncomfortable because he's being filmed. He's uncomfortable because he's in that environment, which in turn is causing him to over think.
@@stonedalldayjedi533 you knew him then ? Knew him well enough to know his mannerisms and characteristics ?
@@jasminekata5162 besides being able to read about him, you don't need to know someone to read their body language. That's why it's a job you know?
@@stonedalldayjedi533 That’s why body language is pseudo-science
Its crazy how this man can read full pages without looking at them
Nah he only looked at the picture he didn't read them
Omg I though the same thing
Who says he was reading? Seems to me he was just scanning the pages
Guys please I was joking haha
It’s a magazine. Before the internet, people just flipped through magazines the same way you don’t read everything on the internet
0:17 WOW, all I see & hear is Evan Peters as Jefferey Dahmer. The way he looked at the camera and spoke, its uncanny. Evan really nailed this.
kinda odd to see a serial killer just acting casual and living their lives. usually the only time you see serial killers they're getting interviewed by police and stuff, but here he's just seems like your average dude.
jeffery was a normal person he just had a evil heart
@@koalabear9752 broken not evil
@@koalabear9752 evil heart doesn't have anything to do with it... bad life experiences and failures has to do with it more
That is the scary part your neighbor, classmate anyone could be a serial killer...
@@Julia-0411-k8x you could be one I could be one
Oh my god the actor sounds exactly like Dahmer, this entire series was so amazing and casted better than any documentary I've ever seen. It was just so insanely accurate.
It’s weird seeing Dahmer express emotion
00:48 he is turning the page without looking he looks very nervous.
I saw no emotions being expressed just one robot like tone to his voice
@@constantnipples2428 well it’s the closest to emotion I’ve seen him express
Not all psychopaths are not gonna have emotion
@@odessawales Tf? He's not even a psychopath.
When people say "Ted Bundy looks charming & can be trust".
But Jeffrey Dahmer can lure 17 men into his apartment, it's crazy to hear. Because he's very attractive, handsome, tall & can be trust...
RIP TO ALL 17 VICTIMS & JEFF...
Just to think this man already had some bodies on his belt during that video is crazy
Imagine the little boy growing up and finding what "Cousin Jeff" had done…
9 to be precise. The most recent being murdered and dismembered just 2 months before this video
the way he was flipping through the magazine made me anxious
This is the very first time I seen him not being interviewed in a prison. He's with his family members. To be sitting next to a person like him being so calm and "nice" but not knowing he had drugged, raped murdered and ate his victims is bizarre. A lot of serial killers just tend to look like ordinary people, being with family and having regular jobs. They just want to blend in with the crowd so people don't know what and who they truly are. It's scary seeing him get along with his family members in this footage, knowing what's happened. Seeing the new jeffrey dahmer Netflix series made it like he was back alive. Evan Peter's played him so well to his voice, to his awkward mannerisms, and portrayed such an evil person that once walked on this earth. Had he have never been caught, he'd still fool everyone around him. He is very eerie. Rip to all the victims ❣️
RIP to all the animals he murdered
nicely stated.
Well what do you think they do? Live in a castle and only come out to feed during moonlight? All just people…
Well... He certainly ripped them...
@@katelynsillysquirrel3223 well as far as I know, he never killed animals. As a child he'd use road kills for the dissection.
I wonder how that little boy Danny feels about cousin Jeff now. Jeff was arrested just 8 months later. Danny was a young kid then but he has to be around 40 now. This video is so wholesome, just Jeff chilling with his family. It seemed like things were going well for him. I can understand how his father was unaware of how sick and far off the deep end he was.
How do you know the name of Jeffreys Cousin?
@@user-mx8wj4ko1rJeff says "Hey Danny" at 1:58
Are there any public informations about Jeffreys cousins or uncle or aunt?
I found that Lionel’s sister passed away in October. Her online obituary states that she has three sons, one of whom being called Dan.
Search Eunice Zirbel obituary on Google
He’s talking so calmly
As always
Same as always, It makes me calmer alot too. 😇☺️
Jeff packed a bit of fudge.
The sheer number of emotional victims outside of the actual victim. count is staggering. I have watched many docs on Dahmer and thought I knew the full story. This series was amazingly done and caught quite a few sides that I had not thought of. The number of mistakes made and overlooking behavior allowed the killing to continue unhindered. The dad trued so hard to take the blame, that was heartbreaking.
Garbage comment. This culture today and it's emotional quote unquote trauma.. it's just buffoonery
The series isn't the real story, they invented stuff for it.
If he would've took his son in instead of sending him to his grandmother's house and been a real dad maybe his vile son wouldn't have got away with killing so many people
@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 😆
Yea but they should’ve just left it alone but of course Netflix wanted to make money without the victims families even knowing because (corrupt companies and people that don’t care) Hollywood is so disgusting I can’t believe we’re making trends off memes based off serial killers
Imagine being all the people in this video looking back on these videos and times and realizing they were actually in the presence of one of the most prolific serial killers the world has ever known. I dont believe they were in any danger because Dahmer had a certain type of person he liked to kill when he was blasted drunk, but that realization had to be mind numbingly life changing.
I think most of the people in the video are related to him which is just devastating. Like imagine being the small boy that was the cousin of him and I can't imagine how his aunt must have felt and how do you say that to a small boy like you can't just say " by the way your cousin won't be coming to family meetings anymore he murdered many people "
He wasn't that prolific. I'm not criticising him. He did his best but there are some South American killers who are posting triple digit scores.
@@edwardjones2202 tbh I’ve never really heard of a lot of South American killers. I feel it’s different there bc of how their government is, the police being payed off. I know a lot of them have higher numbers but I remember killers like Jeff bc of the documentation on their cases, you don’t Really see that in southern American killers
if i knew back then, i would have asked for an autograph
@@edwardjones2202 different world dude, can’t even compare
I wish he was still alive and not murdered in prison.. I would like to hear more interviews with him
When his dad mentioned “cleaning his apartment” Dahmer quickly looked up. I wonder if there were any dead bodies in his fridges at that point
Ofc there was
yes there were bodies, look how nervous he is, he jumped and everything from the chair
He also moved up in his chair indicating the question surprised him when he thought of the real reality of his apartment.
His reaction to his father’s statement. He nearly came up out of the chair knowing all along that human remains were all over his place.
@@user-zo5bq8xu5x Over-Analyzing Andy
Crazy how far the human brain can go
"I have to start eating at home more." That hits different when you know the details.
The way he's petting the cat 😢 softly
And he killed and tortured cats the other days.
The cat hated it
@@PetiteLicorne He never did that
What’s most chilling is that even the cat is unbothered
No. The cat was wagging her tail. She didn't like him
that’s his grandma’s cat
What’s crazy is at 1:22 when his dad mentioned his apartment jeff was subtly making an excuse for them not to come over ‘I haven’t done any dusting or vacuuming’ he wanted no part of anyone being in his sanctuary so to speak. Good chance there was body parts lying all over the place.
Spine tingling.
He actually kept it quite clean. At first view you wouldn't have seen anything suspicious, he would keep the body parts in specific places and out of sight. Except for his bedroom, where he had some bones and skulls (the visible stuff, he had some other hidden).
@@kiara4345 Except for the smell
@@RychAhlberg Yeah... except for that. Can't even imagine
He also talks about how he needs to start eating at home more
Good chance? No, most definitely! Since the entire complex smelled rotten.
Now i am totally in shock. I would have fallen for him, because he looked good on pictures. I thought to myself, maybe my inner alarm system would have warned me, if i‘d met him in person and talked to him. But no, he comes across as so normal, even pleasant. And then i would have looked out how animals react to him. He was so sweet with the cat.
This is really unsettling. One can’t see who is a murderer.
That's because women like you are very easy to trick. And cats like people who feed them and don't chase after them or pick them up to much. Simple.
too much
@@LightSpeed4246 pretty sure he deceived tons of men like you
Now you get why people went with him to his house without doubting at all, and also why the cops believed him many times.
@@cube5750 im not gay...but he could have prayed on women more easily imo because they sre puddy in your hands if you just look the right esy and say the right things
Wow dahmer sounds like a good human being... I wish he didnt do it
When dahmer said “I have to start eating at home more”. Hits different. Knowing what we know now.
Notice his body language when Lionel brings up him cleaning his apartment. 1:10
Evan Peters is such a surreal actor that he even managed to make his voice look like Jeffrey Dahmer. This is 🤯
I'm old enough to remember just how awkward people were back then when home movies were still a thing and nobody, including the person holding the camera, knew how to act and were visibly nervous while being filmed. The cameras were big and clunky, black plastic cinder blocks with a glaringly bright light which made it feel like an interrogation instead of a warm family moment. It was one of the founding pillars of the cringe we know today.
Yess lmao even in the early 2000s the camera made many many awkward family moments for me as someone who has always hated being on camera😂
I was born in 1988 and I watched the home movies made from my early birthdays and you're right nobody knew how to act or knew what to say. It was like some extremely low budget movie with wooden acting.
1:59 his smile was so sweet
Psycho smile 👿
You would be his victim
@@RHasan-yy1fb not if i knew him and wasnt a stranger
@@nau3561 bruh u actually never know tf 🤣
@@nau3561 mf had addiction killing ppl, some of y'all be sick Ina head frfr
You can tell Lionel was a great father and tried to bond with his son any way he knew how. Unfortunately Jeffrey’s hobbies ended up being more morbid than innocent. I feel the medication his mother was on while pregnant contributed to his pathological issues. If you look at the Nick Cruz case, his mother took illigal street drugs and also become a murderer. Not that everyone who is exposed to drugs in the wound would end up with psychological issues but I think in certain cases it could. What do you think?
The drugs can definitely do some damage but then again their younger son came out fine. But I believe there may be some undiagnosed damage to the second son. He may not be a serial killer but he wouldn’t be as healthy minded as he could have been. If that makes sense.
They also touched on the part where his dad had some violent thoughts when younger, which he explained sorrowfully. But he never acted on those thoughts. This could explain the genes part. Usually genes need to be passed for people who show antisocial personality from a young age.
It didn't have shyt to do with hìs mom medication. This evil monster opened himself up to being demon possessed through obsessing about having dominant sex with men
He tried to bond with him doing an activity that made him have those “thoughts” how is he a great father he abandoned him. Jeffery tried to tell him about his fantasies, but the dad didn’t want to listen at all. Another reason why the mother didn’t want to stay the father had communication issues.
@@Mysincerehairllc I believe he was a good father. I would imagine at the least the there is a child in your life that is into things that not all kids are before forming that opinion? He did what he could to bond with a child who had bizarre interests. Who believes their child is going to be a murderer? Especially back then. I didn’t say he was perfect. People have faults, lots of fathers including my own had a period of being absent. I still believe that my father was a good father. And as far as listening to what he was going through, this is because Lionel was a devout Christian who knew his son was gay and he didn’t want to hear it because of the way he felt about homosexuality. He cared about his son though and the mother seemed awful, while the father at the least tried his best.
You’ve got a few things wrong. Jeffries mother was on prescription medication not street stuff.
Lionel was mostly responsible for Jeffery.
His father ignored all the red flags.
Ignored him as a whole.
Swept everything under the rug.
A lot could have been avoided if Lionel didn’t want to just “not hear about it”.
Bro the way he was flipping those pages of the magazine…. 😮😮😮 not a single thing interested him enough to stop and read. He did that to seem normal.
Not even joking, He was good looking than 99% of American men today
Your weird than
@@louiedirt4888let’s just face it.
Jeff is the most handsome man I have ever seen. He's so gorgeous!
@@DivineAdmire Jeff is so handsome! So pretty!
@@Thais_jeffy no kidding!
Evan peters played Jeffrey Dahmer remarkably so good that he deserves an Oscar.
"It gets too expensive and I have to start eating at home more" LOL
I've seen many interviews with serial killers and a lot of just Dahmer. There is something that just appears a lot more normal about him at a face value then other killers. Which is crazy because you could argue he was one of the most bizzare.
If only McDonalds wasnt so expensive.. He wouldnt of had to start eating at home more 💀
The cat 🐈 was like oh heck no dnt pet me weirdo.
wow amazing how well evan peters played this mad man.
He looks more normal than I do, and I have trouble harming insects.
Uh yeah that doesnt and never will amount to what he did
He hides his evil persona so well even I couldn’t do that
Like Superman and Clark Kent. 2 different people
Jeffery looks like a nice guy until we learn the truth about him
“That’s cousin Jeff” damn man, that gave me shivers idk why
This is so weird to me, this really is a wholesome video if you don’t know the backstory.
"Looks like you're working out"
"Nah, I'm on a strict diet though...."