His mother leaving him did NOT turn him into a serial killer, no more than Hitler's rejection from art school turned him into a genocidal maniac. It's terrifying to accept, but there's no reliable root for psychopathy.
Agreed. However his mothers mental illness and overly prescribed diet of medications while pregnant im sure DID contribute to his major chemical imbalance in his brain. And her total abandonment and lack of motherly anything im didnt help him. Just a thought
Didn't they say his mother left and took his brother but not him... She probably left with his brother because they knew that Jeffrey was messed up. And I think Jeffrey's father has everything to do with this, I think Jeffrey witnessed some things done by his father.. And that's all I'm going to say.
I think the meds his mom was on while she was pregnant should not be dismissed. Those drugs, if given to the wrong person, can change an adults brain for the worse. Now imagine a developing fetus being exposed to all that. Not saying it explains everything, but it could have been a necessary part of all this.
I agree! i was prescribed antidepressants and my baby stopped moving for days! Decided to stop taking them after a few weeks and she was back to normal and active. Medicine definitely affects fetuses even when they claim it doesn't
i was looking for a comment to reply this to, every child has certain ways they learn to comfort themselves with the uncomfortable so when you let your child collect animal viscera, his psychology is subject to trauma a child can’t simply comprehend, and for him to develop sexual attraction for organs and mutilation, his mother leaving was simply a catalyst to all of this, with no motherly connection freud would have had a field day with the reason this man chose to commit such vile atrocities.
@@skeetyeet3928 His mother leaving had little to do with Jeff's brutality. She was not a good mother all along. Freud has some nice theories, most of which don't hold water. Perhaps his Interpretation of Dreams holds the most water. I think ID Twin Studies separated at birth show the greater importance of biology over environment, not that environment is not very imporant.
@@SaraMKay Research has revealed that 25 percent of aggressive inmates had committed multiple acts of animal abuse as children. Forty-five percent of school shooters had histories of alleged animal cruelty, and 21 percent of serial murderers admitted to childhood animal abuse. I made a point earlier that Biology Rules and this is probably more true with serial killers. And maybe head trauma too plays a role. "British child psychiatrist Stephen Scott, an expert in childhood and adolescent antisocial behavior, explains that “unlike regular antisocial behavior, serial killers seem to be born rather than made, with a Heritability of 80 percent of the characteristics being due to genes, whereas with ordinary antisocial and later criminal behavior, it is only 30 percent.”
Even though Jeffrey was wicked wrong. Now this is just my opinion. The parents feel probably some sort of guilt. And usually a parents love is undeniable so I think that’s why. I think they love him a lot any parent unless they are dead beats will do anything for their child. It’s sad but it is what it is
Now that he’s passed away I feel a bit of relief for him that he no longer has to constantly have the thoughts of what his son had done, that must have been imaginable of what he has mentally went through
It’s very sad. That’s something ive had to try to get my head round while studying this case which I’m weirdly obsessed with. I don’t usually jump onto Netflix trends but this really gave me a new perspective on life, and career path. Very upsetting to see how an innocent boy can have sinister things developing in his brain while looking so.. innocent. Very sad the monster he became.
He had it in him since he was born, it just hadn't yet developed into the complex psychological trait he was going to exhibit later on. Psychopaths are natural born. There are kids that have had a much rougher childhood and never hurt others let alone take someone's life.
Stephen Hicks, Steven Tuomi, Jamie Doxtator, Richard Guerrero, Anthony Sears, Eddie Smith, Ricky Beeks, Ernest Miller, David Thomas, Curtis Straughter, Errol Lindsey, Tony Hughes, Konerak Sinthasomphone, Matt Turner, Jeremiah Weinberger, Oliver Lacy and Joseph Bradeholt. May they and their families find peace
Head injuries can also have a major impact on psychopathy. I heard he had one, not sure if its true tho. I cant bring myself to watch the show... mostly because I love the actor and dont want to ruin it 😅
Jeff's younger brother David changed is last name when all of this went down. He did not go to his brother's trial or visit him in prison. He did not engage with the news media at all, and has continued to live in anonymity ever since.
his father is very well spoken, I don’t know how I would’ve coped knowing this became a worldwide story and how to even begin processing it all. big respect, my thoughts are with the victims 🤍
@olivia-ci7tq hey, I was treat pretty crappily as a kid. I always say to my mum how terrified I am of ending up like the men she dated, and eventually I realised something. If you have the ability to fear becoming like these people, it is because you are a good person that would never be like that.
Wow, the dad's voice sounds surprisingly similar to Evan Peters' voice in his portrayal of Jeffrey Dahmer. They did pick a really good actor to play him in that Netflix show. Both of them, actually.
@@keijokaljo7622 ummmm yeah I know. Which is why I said Evan Peters portrayal of Jeffrey.....? I was just pointing out that the dad's voice sounds similar to Evans portrayal of Jeffrey. Maybe I didn't make that clear?
Well it probably didn't. There was a cat scan done on Jeffrey's brain before the trial and no brain abnormalities were found. She was also on medication with David and he turned out fine
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811I think to her "Jeff" is their son, "Jeffrey" is the serial killer. May seem trivial to us, but to her there's a difference. That's just my take on it.
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811she's trying to create distance from her and her son. The difference of formal language in addressing or referring to people
Love how cold step mom is still turning Jeff's problems on his mother. They seem like a living embodiment of "distant, unloving parents" in medical literature.
@@1rage17 idk but in my point of view, there is big chance that the father must work more excesively than the mother to pay child support for jeff brother, pay the mortgage, jeff needs, and maybe his new gf/wife.. it is not that the father neglected it but the father need to work overtime.. I think the most main driving factor is what the father said that jeff relating his sexual desires with death of animal in his early teens..
I seem to remember from back when all this horror story went down that JD's father said there was "total" neglect of him when the parents split. He lived on his own unsupervised with no input of love or parenting during his adolescent years. Reminds me of the old saying, "an idle mind is the devil's workshop".
I’m a counselor at a clinic, and we have these discussions amongst peers, it’s hard for me to blame a parent for such an extremely distorted person, unless there were “direct” grooming or involvement activities at play
Its not about blame. Its about learning about this kind of behaviour so we know how to deal with it. We have a lot of sick/ill people and we need to deal with that fact. Putting them away is not the (only) answer. And besides that: you cant deny yhe external factors that trigger this behaviour. Its always a combination..nature and nurture.
@@hekate1971 is there a real answer, I mean we’re talking about cannibalism, which is very extreme, and what traits would serve as an indicator, how many parents raise “people eaters”?????
@@josephineananda I don't know of any parent who hasn't made mistakes in raising their children. Mr. Dahmer obviously loved Jeff very much and never gave up on him, especially when his gruesome crimes dominated the news. The Dahmer's younger son didn't turn out like this. In fact, he changed his name so that he's not associated with Jeff and his atrocious crimes.
I am really grateful to the parents that they made the effort to shed so much more light on this case. It is always better to know more than having to deal with this unclarity of why things happened.
At the end of the day, Jeff was allowed to run free and that how he was able to get away with a lot. Living near a wooded area wasn’t the problem. He was a legal adult when his mom left. Abandonment issues are the root of a lot of this.
People have worse abandonment issues and are still functioning members of society. The root of the problem was his demented perceptions of fulfilling an inhuman lust that is most likely a genetic problem with his brain. Although, the abandonment issues definitely did make this worse.
@TomTheDog That's not quite what I meant. If everybody handled these experiences the same as Dahmer, it would be genocidal. I'm making it 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳, in my original comment that everyone handles things differently. Dahmer handled things differently because of his inhuman lust to kill and cannibalize humans.
@@8luvbug He was 17 and she took his brother left him for good she never came back his Father was living with his stepmom somewhere else his whole family was gone. She didn't want him it's in the report of his Doctor .
What is the point of this? There are NEVER gonna be any proper answers to this horrific situation. It's just disrespectful to the victims and their families....🤬
This poor guy has been doing interviews about his son for years. Wonder if he ever gets tired of talking about it, it’s gotta be emotional for him every time. He still looks great, though.
@@kerrymartin7557I think he does it to try and give people answers as much as he can. Some of these things cant be explained. He can't tell you why but he is trying to humanize the whole thing and how things got missed. Nobody can ever imagine their child to be Dahmer let alone a neighbor etc. It's frightening. Darkness can take many forms.
These days, if a parent insisted on seeing what was in the box, the child's therapist would tell us we need to give our kid more privacy & have enough trust in them to give them that space.
@TomTheDog but too much privacy enables more criminal behavior. Like there was the time he didn't kill someone he had intended to because of his grandma showing up. If he had more privacy on that one occasion, then that would have been one more murder victim who didn't escape him.
How she acted was totally unnecesarry and ignorant. Like what's the issue? His name is Jeffrey. Why expect random people to call a monster or anyone by their nickname lol. Although in the show, the step mother is really pleasant but in this video😵
@Visiblenightj probably their coping mechanism, I think they both had denial issues to come to terms with what he did that Jeffrey was a different person than Jeff
@@jayxfrost8987 That's not what Shari's friend said.. She said shari hated Jeffrey and David and was mad that Lionel had to play child support. Shari said in another interview that she wished Jeffrey was put down like a dog. Doesn't sound like a step mother who's loving. Jeffrey said his mom was a very comforting person when she could be.
This is important even though Jeff's parents were not the best parents I don't think they would ever envision they would raise the most infamous serial killer on earth. Parents need to care about this they need to care about these things if they see any kind of behavior like this it needs to be corrected and in the right way. You're never too young for therapy
That's their son. They called him Jeff. Maybe hearing Jeffrey makes them think of the evil person he really is. He is known as Jeffrey Dahmer to the world and maybe that's a way for them not to think of him as a monster. Jeffrey is the monster. Jeff is their son.
They're making an attempt to dissociate the psychopath, Jeffrey, from the person they believe they knew. As she said, "we know him as Jeff." Years ago, the original interviews were played quite often. I remember thinking that correcting his name was odd. Especially during the timing of questions on certain interviews. It seemed it was their way of suggesting they only know him as Jeff, the sweet boy we raised and loved as opposed to Jeffrey this horrific psychopath. Maybe the dissociation in their minds aleiveate accepting some level of responsibility that they missed the development of a serial killer.
@@giannimolluso5846 Hindsight. No one thinks their child will become that way. His upbringing wasn't even all that bad. I don't think there's help for people like him other than being permanently institutionalized.
I love how in the very beginning the step mom seems to get almost defensive and correct Dr.Phil on calling him Jeff rather than Jeffrey? Seriously lady? That’s what’s important here?
I remember an interview with him where it came out of his own mouth that he had no idea why he was this way and that he had a good childhood is the way he put it he said his childhood wasn't perfect but he said in no way it led him to do this he didn't think he said he didn't have any idea why he was this way
@Sunny Lynn yeah perhaps did he say that I've never heard him say that but with what I heard that came out of his mouth he said it wasn't perfect but it wasn't horrible and didn't cause him to be this way which seems pretty damn accurate to me.... but I know that parents can really cause some damage I know mine did
Some people have horrid upbringings but they don’t turn into serial killers. Some people have great upbringings and do horrible things. Granted his parents weren’t the best but ultimately I think it depends on the individual.
I don't believe his parents were loving and were there for him. I believe this could have been stopped or prevented. Extreme loneliness and neglect.. this is what happens or what could happen. Parents love your children, listen to them, and be there for them
Listening/hearing his father peacefully discussing his son's actions as a kid was like he shrugged it off like 'boys enjoy gross stuff'. By not forcing his son into therapy, he was only encouraging things to get worse. His father actually played a large part in Jeffrey s future psychopathic actions!
Dont blame it on his parents. His parents were loving of their kids they just had marital issues and struggled to give the attention the kids needed, they didnt purposefuly leave him lonley. This happens to half the kids on the planet, they dont turn into psycho cannibals.
It’s horrible when any parent isn’t loving and is neglectful. However, there’s plenty of parents who are like that yet their child doesn’t turn out a perverted serial killer. It produces a screwed up individual, but it certainly doesn’t make them a serial killer.
You may be born with proclivities to certain urges, like sadism, but it is your choice what you do with them. If you cannot control yourself by sheer force of will, it is your onus to find someone or something that will stop you. For example, people with strong sexual cravings towards children (pedophiles) will sometimes get prescribed libido diminishing drugs, such as anti-androgens, to diminish their urges.
@@nathr7375 The key word pertaining to what? Many people with pedophilia or other paraphilias like Dahmer had are able to avoid offending without hormone blocking medication. Some use SSRIs. Others access support networks, use therapy, or have other outlets. The important distinction is between an urge that is difficult to resist versus an uncontrollable urge. Dahmer is evil because he is fully accountable for the series of choices to give in to his predatory urges.
Lots of stepmothers are snarky like this. Deep, down inside, they don’t want to be bothered with the problem kids of a former marriage. They’re just kicking themselves for falling in love with a man who has so much baggage. It’s too bothersome for them to deal with. Well, it’s their fault. They knew what they were getting into.
It is not the parents fault. The parents failed in many ways but the initial killings was not the parents fault. Many people who have parents still end up killing them, killing others, and doing horrible things. It's not how they were raised, everyone is their own person, that's why you think differently from your parents because you are different.
@TomTheDog he didn’t get that from his parents. They didn’t nurture him. His mother didn’t even allow him to be held as a baby. She was in and out of mental health facilities.
@@BeccaRaptor94 I mean, is that possible that he's still alive and live with another name like his brother, David? Because like you said, why she get annoyed with her stepson full name?
@@julieantony5821That’s the silliest, most conspiratorial, and just flat out wrong explanation I’ve ever seen. It’s obvious why she told Dr. Phil to only refer to him as Jeff: that was their son. That was who they knew him as and what they called him. It’s a coping mechanism to make a distinction between what they knew him as “Jeff” (their son) and what the world knew him as “Jeffrey” (the killer). It’s not rocket science.
Until Lionel passes on, Jeffery’s actions will haunt him and the story will keep on going. I feel as if all the trauma Lionel has endured, he will never be fully at peace on this earth.
What if Jeff’s father contributed to his actions? The defense “He just didn’t want to be alone” is a huge RED FLAG. The fathers approach, calmness when speaking… I’m not saying he is… I’m saying the way he defended the acts of a murderer is contrary to a normal issue. His eyes, face, voice. Seemingly Emotionless. Which could be from years of mental anguish, or something more sinister…
Don't be ignorant , u would defend urself if u saw how many people blaming u fighting u and suing u for something he didn't know and it wasn't even in his knowledge that it might lead to this!
I think it was his personality and his family nature to protect. I know many people who would blindly back their child or family member up. The line between enabling and support/unity blurs in this case. I don’t know if he enabled him but he definitely blindly supported him.
You can tell Lionel is a really decent man. It's sad that he had to experience this as a father. Such a heavy burden to deal with. Talk about soul destroying.
i don't think a decent parent would leave a troubled preteen alone in a home just to divorce and marry again. They never address the fact that they all left the house except him when the divorce happened and let a minor they call "devious" live totally isolated
Not intentional, but the parenting or lack of helped manifest the child into a killer. This short interview has multiple red flags regarding how both parents responded to Jeff's behavior.
I’m glad the father was willing to talk and admit to his faults so other parents can look for warning signs in their own children. It’s so easy to turn a blind eye and deaf ear.. these interviews make you not want to
My brother is evil. When my parents found out how evil he was they tried to hide it. I really struggled with them hiding his behaviors. Forty years later, I get it. Everyone assumes that it’s the parents fault. They would have been crucified. I’m not saying I agree with what they did, I just get it. I wouldn’t want to be them.
How awful for the parents to have to live with this. The kind of insanity and complete lack of empathy this psychopath had wasn't created by his parents. How do you even imagine that your kid's weird behavior is THAT weird? And that's just the stuff he wasn't able to hide from them.
Should the parents spend quality time with their child or children; the parent's should have seen signs that their child has or were having problems. Don't believe I've watched all videos on Jeffrey Dahmer. Like about his schooling Attendance. I've heard how in the videos he was supposedly super intelligent Do accept my apology for the late evening text.☝Ty🇺🇸🦅🌴🌌Susie in FL. May God an his😇👸👼's Watch over you and our World🌏🙏🌎🇺🇸🌍🦅 9/17/2023 Sun.10:00pm
No hate, but to you Jeffrey is exactly what he is, and a stranger. To them, he is a son and someone they know all their lives. So that's why they care about the use of his name. To them Jeffrey is the serial killer and Jeff is the beloved son from the past. Simple.
Just because someone is a sociopath or psychopath. Doesn’t mean they are all murders. There is sick minded people you walk past through stores, mall, ect . The importance of understanding that people need to have good understanding of empathy, and good role models , good parenting comes a long way. It won’t always avoid coming across people like this but watching porn non stop, or having sites with gore on it . Has played with alot of these peoples minds now
Also with schizophrenia.. That disease has nothing to do with serial killing in general but serial killers might be schizophrenic. We must never draw conclusions too quickly.
I feel terrible for these people. They can never get away from the story of their son. You know even after they found out a piece of them had to still love him. Or at least what he once was. Most of us are guilty of having a fascination with the macabre. But the price of that fascination is that these innocent people have their lives tainted with blood and evil forever.
He thinks he dropped it on him when they were doing weights spotting each other which is a possibility accidents happen right .THEN HE PANICKED . If he wasn't abandoned and morbidly lonely this never would of taken place.
I believe when we stop trying to find reasons why people do wrong we will stop giving them reasons to do wrong Everyone should be accountable for their actions without playing victim of something or someone And finding a reason for a serial killer has yet to be found and I don't think it's going to be found
@@gabs3174His mother taking the meds, father taking him on roadkills, dissecting those kills for fun, leaving him alone when they should've given him love and attention, his father not communicating with him when he should have and who knows whatnot! Don't you see that his parents were responsible for this, not that he wasn't. Because you go out there and see for yourself what young kids go through daily... do they all become this? He was sick, yes, but he made a choice, too.
It's sad the back and fourth blame between the parents. Imagine existing to pin it on your partner who helped make that child. It was wrong of Lionel to take jeff out looking for roadkill
It's not the Parent's fault Jeffery was just Evil. He should have opened the box. Regardless of what Jeffery said he could have saved a lot of people's lives.
His mother leaving him did NOT turn him into a serial killer, no more than Hitler's rejection from art school turned him into a genocidal maniac. It's terrifying to accept, but there's no reliable root for psychopathy.
Agreed. However his mothers mental illness and overly prescribed diet of medications while pregnant im sure DID contribute to his major chemical imbalance in his brain. And her total abandonment and lack of motherly anything im didnt help him. Just a thought
Exactly I concur
Agreed
psychopathy results from a complex combination of genetic and environmental factors.
Didn't they say his mother left and took his brother but not him... She probably left with his brother because they knew that Jeffrey was messed up. And I think Jeffrey's father has everything to do with this, I think Jeffrey witnessed some things done by his father.. And that's all I'm going to say.
I couldn't even imagine how I would react finding out my child did what he did. That would mentally destroy me.
Yeah, but Michael Gove is really h0t.
No for real… I couldn’t imagine that
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His father created him, abused neglected corrupted Dahmer they killed animals together his father is a sociopath himself ASPD+NPD factor 2
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Its actually crazy how his father has the same voice with the actor that plays him
ON GOD BRO sounds exactly alike
All he needs is the glasses
He also sounds like the real Jeffrey Dahmer.
The actor played him ; his really an actor.
He sounds like Jeffrey dahmer
I feel bad for Lionel it’s been 30 years and he is still being haunted by his sons actions and the media will never stop pushing these serial killers
I would be too
The story that won’t go away
Unfortunately there is a huge demand for learning about these sick f:/~Ks!
Media won’t stop pushing them because of OUR morbid curiosity, you clicked on this video didn’t you, you’re part of the problem kid
He has always welcomed media interviews
rip to those 17 men who lost their lives. my heart goes out to their families.
Men and boys
@@Johndoe70000 yep
The youngest was 14
I heard there could be more unidentified bodies
@@obiwan9662 there's talk that he was responsible for a lot of disappearances when he was in the army but no concrete proof
I think the meds his mom was on while she was pregnant should not be dismissed. Those drugs, if given to the wrong person, can change an adults brain for the worse. Now imagine a developing fetus being exposed to all that. Not saying it explains everything, but it could have been a necessary part of all this.
Absolutely agree
I’ve said this so many time totally agree !!
I agree! i was prescribed antidepressants and my baby stopped moving for days! Decided to stop taking them after a few weeks and she was back to
normal and active. Medicine definitely affects fetuses even when they claim it doesn't
True!
Gtfoh
Animal cruelty from a young age is a tell-tale warning of pending psychopathy
i was looking for a comment to reply this to, every child has certain ways they learn to comfort themselves with the uncomfortable so when you let your child collect animal viscera, his psychology is subject to trauma a child can’t simply comprehend, and for him to develop sexual attraction for organs and mutilation, his mother leaving was simply a catalyst to all of this, with no motherly connection freud would have had a field day with the reason this man chose to commit such vile atrocities.
I dont think I follow. @@skeetyeet3928
@@skeetyeet3928 His mother leaving had little to do with Jeff's brutality. She was not a good mother all along. Freud has some nice theories, most of which don't hold water. Perhaps his Interpretation of Dreams holds the most water. I think ID Twin Studies separated at birth show the greater importance of biology over environment, not that environment is not very imporant.
We know that now, because psychiatrists had the opportunity to study “psychopaths “ before they got executed and took their stories to their graves
@@SaraMKay Research has revealed that 25 percent of aggressive inmates had committed multiple acts of animal abuse as children. Forty-five percent of school shooters had histories of alleged animal cruelty, and 21 percent of serial murderers admitted to childhood animal abuse.
I made a point earlier that Biology Rules and this is probably more true with serial killers. And maybe head trauma too plays a role. "British child psychiatrist Stephen Scott, an expert in childhood and adolescent antisocial behavior, explains that “unlike regular antisocial behavior, serial killers seem to be born rather than made, with a Heritability of 80 percent of the characteristics being due to genes, whereas with ordinary antisocial and later criminal behavior, it is only 30 percent.”
Watching Jeff's parents trying to defend and understand the actions of their son is heartbreaking I can't imagine the nightmares they have
Even though Jeffrey was wicked wrong. Now this is just my opinion. The parents feel probably some sort of guilt. And usually a parents love is undeniable so I think that’s why. I think they love him a lot any parent unless they are dead beats will do anything for their child. It’s sad but it is what it is
@@LexiMcHenry no dip Lexi
@@thesmartoneificationthat was rude
@@LexiMcHenry Apparently both parents have character disorders.
I mean the father did have the same type of issues but he just never acted on it like his son did. So it’s like he could relate.
Now that he’s passed away I feel a bit of relief for him that he no longer has to constantly have the thoughts of what his son had done, that must have been imaginable of what he has mentally went through
I can’t believe he’s dead 😞
Wait when did he pass??
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It's sad seeing him as a baby, and then looking at what he became
It’s very sad. That’s something ive had to try to get my head round while studying this case which I’m weirdly obsessed with. I don’t usually jump onto Netflix trends but this really gave me a new perspective on life, and career path. Very upsetting to see how an innocent boy can have sinister things developing in his brain while looking so.. innocent. Very sad the monster he became.
He had it in him since he was born, it just hadn't yet developed into the complex psychological trait he was going to exhibit later on. Psychopaths are natural born. There are kids that have had a much rougher childhood and never hurt others let alone take someone's life.
What do u mean? He didn't even look evil when he committed / got charged.
@@pbufh you clearly didnt understand what i was addressing.
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Damn the Netflix series definitely had the perfect actor to play Jeffery’s father.
Even the voice is the same
Yes right !!! I said the same thing.. 😮
The voice is identical
I mean evan peters voice is close to jeff but I can't tell the difference between Jeff's real father voice and the actor at all
Yes!
Yeeesssss I was thinking the same thing
The guy who played the father in the series was the perfect fit.
IKR
I feel like everyone was a perfect fit! They did such a good job with recreating the locations too
Stephen Hicks, Steven Tuomi, Jamie Doxtator, Richard Guerrero, Anthony Sears, Eddie Smith, Ricky Beeks, Ernest Miller, David Thomas, Curtis Straughter, Errol Lindsey, Tony Hughes, Konerak Sinthasomphone, Matt Turner, Jeremiah Weinberger, Oliver Lacy and Joseph Bradeholt. May they and their families find peace
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This is something that irritates me. The serial killer is talked about so much, but the victims?? Most people don't know their names. Thank you.
May their souls rest in peace 😢
Jeff's brother was also named David
I feel so sad about all of the victims but Konerak's case breaks me the most I literally cry about it 😢
It wasn't just 1 thing that turned Jeffrey into who he was. It was a perfect storm of many things, including his own DNA.
Head injuries can also have a major impact on psychopathy. I heard he had one, not sure if its true tho. I cant bring myself to watch the show... mostly because I love the actor and dont want to ruin it 😅
@@doeeyes2 the show is awesome ! They chose the PERFECT actor to play Jeff...it just gives you all the more reason to love the actor, he's brilliant
Mother figure in psychopathy is often distant but dominant, emotionally neglectful and a father figure passive or missing
@@doeeyes2 he didn't have a head injury
Bullying does it too.
Jeff's younger brother David changed is last name when all of this went down. He did not go to his brother's trial or visit him in prison. He did not engage with the news media at all, and has continued to live in anonymity ever since.
Well I don’t blame David.
Yes I heard he changed his name and even moved to another country to get away from all of this .
Understandable! Have a nice day!
Makes sense to me.
his father is very well spoken, I don’t know how I would’ve coped knowing this became a worldwide story and how to even begin processing it all. big respect, my thoughts are with the victims 🤍
It’s fishy. He is fishy.
By pain suffering and stress. Deep pain.
what kind though, cod,haddock, cobbler, or carp?
Because he was a very intelligent man who wrote a book about it; that probably helped him process and heal.
@@beezlebub9he groomed his child to do these things
I can’t imagine what family members of serial killers think and feel knowing their own loved ones did such evil things
jeff’s niece said she’s very disturbed and is afraid she’s gonna turn out like him 😭
@olivia-ci7tq hey, I was treat pretty crappily as a kid. I always say to my mum how terrified I am of ending up like the men she dated, and eventually I realised something. If you have the ability to fear becoming like these people, it is because you are a good person that would never be like that.
They are victims too.
@@davidlea5155 yeah fr
Even worse when the family lives every day ,like that person done nothing
This man looks completely broken , I can’t feel anything but empathy and admiration for him
Well he would hardly be happy and talking with Pride about his Sons achievements
like what most parents from the Planet f......king Earth do.
Shame on u
@@derkilleravalo8260 you love the b......ard killer Dahmer? Shame on you. Tell that to the families this losers son killed.
@@derkilleravalo8260what's to be ashamed?
@@0neWayUp Lionel dhamer Is a fuckn psycho....
Wow, the dad's voice sounds surprisingly similar to Evan Peters' voice in his portrayal of Jeffrey Dahmer. They did pick a really good actor to play him in that Netflix show. Both of them, actually.
Richard Jenkins is amazing.
Evan Peter's didn't portray the father though...
@@keijokaljo7622 no that's not what she meant
When he said jeffrey said he couldnt have one foot square of his own property i instantly thought of evan peters portray of jeffreys whinning 🤣
@@keijokaljo7622 ummmm yeah I know. Which is why I said Evan Peters portrayal of Jeffrey.....? I was just pointing out that the dad's voice sounds similar to Evans portrayal of Jeffrey. Maybe I didn't make that clear?
The actor who played his father has best performance in whole series
We get it. About 1000 people on here have already said it🤦♀️
No lol even had the best
@@HydeGLA not even. the woman who played his neighbor was so compelling.
@@Yehoshua66 I think even was the best but I agree I can’t think of many bad performances in the show
@@HydeGLA very true. the whole cast was stellar.
His father and stepmother seem like very nice caring people. I really hope they are doing ok and they are not being harassed by idiots .
They get death threats constantly
@@nicolemonrue There are so many ignorant idiots out there . The parents had nothing to do with what Jeff Dahmer did .😞
They seem ,,,doesnt mean they are caring people!
@@andrewhazenberg3398😂
They give off a bad vibe
The fact the father and Evan Peter's played the roles so well in Dahmer on Netflix is insane... they even sound alike.
He was in stepbrothers too
Richard Jenkins is his name, brilliant actor.
@@supernothing77 that's mainly what I know him from haha
maybe they used his voice
Idk I found Peters portrayal as over the top. He was trying too hard to play Jeff as weird and creepy. It was v American and over the top.
The pain they must feel I can't even imagine. Even if he was born that way ,the feeling of guilt is inevitable.
I always thought the heavy drug use his mother was involved in during her pregnancy with Jeff played a part
That’s true. Like the Parkland Shooter - his mom was using drugs while pregnant with him.
Yeah there’s so much mixed up stuff said about his life, I thought she was abusing her prescriptions too
@@1rage17it messed up is mitochondria solace
Well it probably didn't. There was a cat scan done on Jeffrey's brain before the trial and no brain abnormalities were found. She was also on medication with David and he turned out fine
She wasn’t on drugs, she was on medication from the doctors
Damn. The way the step mom jumped in and immediately correct Dr. Phil at the beginning was... interesting.
Thisb
My thoughts too
Yes,what is the difference between Jeff or Jeffrey ?
Is it important ?
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811I think to her "Jeff" is their son, "Jeffrey" is the serial killer. May seem trivial to us, but to her there's a difference. That's just my take on it.
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811she's trying to create distance from her and her son. The difference of formal language in addressing or referring to people
The father just recently passed away
Rip ❤
Oh, I'm sorry! Are you ok?
Being interested in oddities and liking bones does not mean that your going to be a killer
Just have situational-awareness at all time, you never know
agree
Um it kinda does. White ppl are weird
It did for Jeffery though
Its one thing to collect and another to have an obsession and killing for your bones
Love how cold step mom is still turning Jeff's problems on his mother. They seem like a living embodiment of "distant, unloving parents" in medical literature.
@AntiFEMINISTandPROUD I can tell this is just a sad posting from some incel wanting attention. There...go hug yourself.
I think his father loved him, just was also a product of his own environment
I think she's just really, really defensive. Heaven knows she'll have had enough practise.
Hard not to blame her for at least having part of it, but he as well should realize he was being neglectful, he was trying just not enough
@@1rage17 idk but in my point of view, there is big chance that the father must work more excesively than the mother to pay child support for jeff brother, pay the mortgage, jeff needs, and maybe his new gf/wife.. it is not that the father neglected it but the father need to work overtime.. I think the most main driving factor is what the father said that jeff relating his sexual desires with death of animal in his early teens..
I seem to remember from back when all this horror story went down that JD's father said there was "total" neglect of him when the parents split. He lived on his own unsupervised with no input of love or parenting during his adolescent years. Reminds me of the old saying, "an idle mind is the devil's workshop".
I feel so sorry and bad for Lionel..he doesn't deserve to go through this horrible experience and pain from all of this..how can he take this?
i feel worse for the victims families!!
@@faith123 I do as well. Its extremely upsetting to hear that your own child would do these horrible things to others. may the victims families heal🙏.
To be fair his parents "gave" him bpd (borderline personality disorder) witch is probably part of the reason he became a serial killer
Nah, he deserves this pain for making and monster of a man.
Probably in a money transfer but cash would be cool
I’m a counselor at a clinic, and we have these discussions amongst peers, it’s hard for me to blame a parent for such an extremely distorted person, unless there were “direct” grooming or involvement activities at play
Its not about blame. Its about learning about this kind of behaviour so we know how to deal with it. We have a lot of sick/ill people and we need to deal with that fact. Putting them away is not the (only) answer. And besides that: you cant deny yhe external factors that trigger this behaviour. Its always a combination..nature and nurture.
The parents ignored and missed many opportunities to raise this boy differently. They bear some responsibility, even if they don't see it.
@@hekate1971 is there a real answer, I mean we’re talking about cannibalism, which is very extreme, and what traits would serve as an indicator, how many parents raise “people eaters”?????
@@josephineananda I don't know of any parent who hasn't made mistakes in raising their children. Mr. Dahmer obviously loved Jeff very much and never gave up on him, especially when his gruesome crimes dominated the news. The Dahmer's younger son didn't turn out like this. In fact, he changed his name so that he's not associated with Jeff and his atrocious crimes.
@@mainecoon6514 Their parenting mistakes are unforgivable.
I am really grateful to the parents that they made the effort to shed so much more light on this case. It is always better to know more than having to deal with this unclarity of why things happened.
They refused to give the victims families the money from Jeff's trial and wanted to keep it 👍
At the end of the day, Jeff was allowed to run free and that how he was able to get away with a lot. Living near a wooded area wasn’t the problem. He was a legal adult when his mom left. Abandonment issues are the root of a lot of this.
People have worse abandonment issues and are still functioning members of society. The root of the problem was his demented perceptions of fulfilling an inhuman lust that is most likely a genetic problem with his brain. Although, the abandonment issues definitely did make this worse.
His mom leaving him for a few weeks at 18 hardly qualifies as abandonedment. He did not even want to go with her even though she asked him to 🙄
@TomTheDog Okay? 😂 everyone already knows that. (i hope at least)
@TomTheDog That's not quite what I meant. If everybody handled these experiences the same as Dahmer, it would be genocidal. I'm making it 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳, in my original comment that everyone handles things differently. Dahmer handled things differently because of his inhuman lust to kill and cannibalize humans.
@@8luvbug He was 17 and she took his brother left him for good she never came back his Father was living with his stepmom somewhere else his whole family was gone. She didn't want him it's in the report of his Doctor .
My husbands grandma taught him and his wife tennis. Had no idea who they were until later on, said they were really nice people
@@jcldctt his parents are nice. He is the serial killer after all
@@jcldctt what makes you think they aren't nice people?!
@@GunnersMom97 did I say I didn't think they were? No.
@@GunnersMom97 oh idk, one family member is a psychopathic rapist & cannibal & the others raised him? Wtf kind of question is that?
Don't listen to the trolls. It's ridiculous you can't say anything.
This really peels back a layer most never think about. Lionel truly loved his son and was so devastated by his actions and death.
I come across so so many people who accuse Lionel of molesting and all sorts of horrible stuff.
What is the point of this? There are NEVER gonna be any proper answers to this horrific situation. It's just disrespectful to the victims and their families....🤬
It's Dr Phil, they don't really care about ur pain , they just looking for views , cuz the serie was successful, everyone talking about it
@@SalehQattan Yeah, true. I forgot how gross he is...
Lmfao how is it disrespectful? They are literally raising awareness
Its about the parents making more money.
Oh stfu with that tired argument
Jeffrey has the voice of his father
There both sociopaths except the father has ASPD+NPD not ASPD+BPD+SPD like dahmer
Yes, it's almost like... He's his father.
We don't know, we don't relate to Jeffrey 🤣🤣🤣
Omg he does 😱 never even noticed till I saw your comment.
Yea😍
This poor guy has been doing interviews about his son for years. Wonder if he ever gets tired of talking about it, it’s gotta be emotional for him every time. He still looks great, though.
It's his choice. And I'm sure he gets paid for some of them.
@@kerrymartin7557 true, I just think it would get tedious after so long
@@kerrymartin7557I think he does it to try and give people answers as much as he can. Some of these things cant be explained.
He can't tell you why but he is trying to humanize the whole thing and how things got missed.
Nobody can ever imagine their child to be Dahmer let alone a neighbor etc. It's frightening.
Darkness can take many forms.
These days, if a parent insisted on seeing what was in the box, the child's therapist would tell us we need to give our kid more privacy & have enough trust in them to give them that space.
There’s a time to give them privacy and then there’s a time to follow your instincts when something feels wrong
@TomTheDog i know that i can be trusted. I'm more concerned about whether it's safe for me to trust them, not the other way around.
@TomTheDogwhy are you defending a serial killer? (I'm not referring to my kid, I'm referring to Jeffrey Dhamer.)
@TomTheDog but too much privacy enables more criminal behavior. Like there was the time he didn't kill someone he had intended to because of his grandma showing up. If he had more privacy on that one occasion, then that would have been one more murder victim who didn't escape him.
😂😂😂
Imagine opening a locked box belonging to your son and finding a human head.
😰🤢🤮🤮🤮
You'd be like...."This is unacceptable, you're grounded for a whole month."
I know lmfao
It’s crazy how well they cast him for the series
Lionel Dahmer's actor sounds exactly like the real guy.
Yea he does
His mom creeped me out, the way she looked when she said "He's jeff to us." 😢
The audacity that the stepmother showed by scolding Dr Phil for referring to him as "Jeffrey." Total Karen Move.
Chill.
Yeah I thought the same. Karen for sure !
I was like it doesn't matter if Dr.Phil called him Jeffrey or Jeff. We can him a monster.
How she acted was totally unnecesarry and ignorant. Like what's the issue? His name is Jeffrey. Why expect random people to call a monster or anyone by their nickname lol.
Although in the show, the step mother is really pleasant but in this video😵
@Visiblenightj probably their coping mechanism, I think they both had denial issues to come to terms with what he did that Jeffrey was a different person than Jeff
Whoever played his father did a good job at him.
Yes he is a good actor been in many other good movies
Richard Jenkins. Very talented character actor
Wow no one asked the lady he hadn’t even talked yet
She's not his real mom, she didn't raise him
She can be Shari? His second wife?
"Call the manager. His name is Jeff."
@@SalehQattan she's his stepmom who unlike his biological mother was very fond of him.
@@jayxfrost8987 That's not what Shari's friend said.. She said shari hated Jeffrey and David and was mad that Lionel had to play child support. Shari said in another interview that she wished Jeffrey was put down like a dog. Doesn't sound like a step mother who's loving. Jeffrey said his mom was a very comforting person when she could be.
This is important even though Jeff's parents were not the best parents I don't think they would ever envision they would raise the most infamous serial killer on earth.
Parents need to care about this they need to care about these things if they see any kind of behavior like this it needs to be corrected and in the right way.
You're never too young for therapy
THIS
Therapy? Uh no. The child would need to learn about Jesus and learn about Gods love.
Not gonna lie, I had no idea his parents where still alive
Well his mom is dead but that’s him father and stepmother
@@cammalone4457 o ok I didnt know that
It wasn't all that long ago
Only his father is alive.. he’s 86yr
@@badgurl5758 what about his step mom??
That was rich of the step-mom to say.
She’s as much of a weirdo as her husband
Shes seems like a bit of a karen tbh
Literally
So judgemental.
@@robynboone8256 how?
Really, their son is a serial-killing cannibal, and stepmom wants to split hairs about calling him Jeff instead of Jeffrey? Wow!
Yep. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Why would it matter if hes calling him Jeffrey, thats his damn name
Just stupid people trying to take control of a conversation, nothing more.
That's their son. They called him Jeff. Maybe hearing Jeffrey makes them think of the evil person he really is. He is known as Jeffrey Dahmer to the world and maybe that's a way for them not to think of him as a monster. Jeffrey is the monster. Jeff is their son.
Both are monsters tbh, son or not
They're making an attempt to dissociate the psychopath, Jeffrey, from the person they believe they knew. As she said, "we know him as Jeff." Years ago, the original interviews were played quite often. I remember thinking that correcting his name was odd. Especially during the timing of questions on certain interviews. It seemed it was their way of suggesting they only know him as Jeff, the sweet boy we raised and loved as opposed to Jeffrey this horrific psychopath. Maybe the dissociation in their minds aleiveate accepting some level of responsibility that they missed the development of a serial killer.
The parents didn’t cause it, but the certainly didn’t prevent it
Good Comment
How do you prevent someone from becoming a cannibal and necrophiliac?
@@8luvbug His Parents didn't pay any attention to him. Maybe professional help at an early age might have helped
@@giannimolluso5846 Hindsight. No one thinks their child will become that way. His upbringing wasn't even all that bad. I don't think there's help for people like him other than being permanently institutionalized.
@@8luvbug You could be right. Some People are born psychotic they say
I love how in the very beginning the step mom seems to get almost defensive and correct Dr.Phil on calling him Jeff rather than Jeffrey? Seriously lady? That’s what’s important here?
I remember an interview with him where it came out of his own mouth that he had no idea why he was this way and that he had a good childhood is the way he put it he said his childhood wasn't perfect but he said in no way it led him to do this he didn't think he said he didn't have any idea why he was this way
@Sunny Lynn yeah perhaps did he say that I've never heard him say that but with what I heard that came out of his mouth he said it wasn't perfect but it wasn't horrible and didn't cause him to be this way which seems pretty damn accurate to me.... but I know that parents can really cause some damage I know mine did
Please use punctuation I had to read ur comment 3 times lmao
@@Indecisivetacos if you can't read without punctuation then I don't know what to tell you
Did u interview him lol
I always feel very sad for the father and I admire his second wife for supporting her husband till now.
Of course Dr Phil has to capitalize off it now that it's trending lol
😂 exactly
Dr. Phil: "So your son Jeffrey murdered seventeen people"
Stepmom: "HIS NAME IS JEFF!" 😠
🎯💯🤣
Dr. Phil never ages
Lol so true
anechdrome
There's something off about his father...
💯💯
Yep
In the document he admitted to being like Jeff but never told anyone
That’s why he refused to examine Jeffry’s brain!
These people are mk ultra clones thats why. When they create these clones they release them into the real world with us real humans
Some people have horrid upbringings but they don’t turn into serial killers. Some people have great upbringings and do horrible things. Granted his parents weren’t the best but ultimately I think it depends on the individual.
After hearing this I'm blown away how the actors in the show got the voices & mannerisms so dead on.
I don't believe his parents were loving and were there for him. I believe this could have been stopped or prevented. Extreme loneliness and neglect.. this is what happens or what could happen. Parents love your children, listen to them, and be there for them
Apparently when he was a baby, nobody held him unless it was for pictures or to change diapers
Listening/hearing his father peacefully discussing his son's actions as a kid was like he shrugged it off like 'boys enjoy gross stuff'. By not forcing his son into therapy, he was only encouraging things to get worse. His father actually played a large part in Jeffrey s future psychopathic actions!
Dont blame it on his parents. His parents were loving of their kids they just had marital issues and struggled to give the attention the kids needed, they didnt purposefuly leave him lonley. This happens to half the kids on the planet, they dont turn into psycho cannibals.
It’s horrible when any parent isn’t loving and is neglectful. However, there’s plenty of parents who are like that yet their child doesn’t turn out a perverted serial killer. It produces a screwed up individual, but it certainly doesn’t make them a serial killer.
His father did his best. He’s not to blame for Jeffrey’s crimes.
The Netflix shows casting was 10/10
that hair dye job would make me a serial killer too
I’d rather be dead than red on the head 😂
Oh that is just color in a can
Your born this way. The brain develops different for everyone. I know people who had a terrible upbringing and they became great people
I think situations like this are nature and nurture issues.. people generally try to use one versus the other but for Jeff I think both failed him.
You may be born with proclivities to certain urges, like sadism, but it is your choice what you do with them. If you cannot control yourself by sheer force of will, it is your onus to find someone or something that will stop you. For example, people with strong sexual cravings towards children (pedophiles) will sometimes get prescribed libido diminishing drugs, such as anti-androgens, to diminish their urges.
@@awolf97 boom someone who actually gets it.
@@natashasays key word being sometimes.
@@nathr7375 The key word pertaining to what? Many people with pedophilia or other paraphilias like Dahmer had are able to avoid offending without hormone blocking medication. Some use SSRIs. Others access support networks, use therapy, or have other outlets. The important distinction is between an urge that is difficult to resist versus an uncontrollable urge. Dahmer is evil because he is fully accountable for the series of choices to give in to his predatory urges.
"We don't relate to Jeffrey. He's Jeff." Fakest smile ever. Yeah, mom's a piece of work and I've only gotten into the interview 15 seconds.
that's the stepmom not the mom.
That’s the girlfriend not the mom
Lots of stepmothers are snarky like this. Deep, down inside, they don’t want to be bothered with the problem kids of a former marriage. They’re just kicking themselves for falling in love with a man who has so much baggage. It’s too bothersome for them to deal with. Well, it’s their fault. They knew what they were getting into.
She's creepy too...
Just a way to intimidate so as not to be asked a lot of questions
Lionel's wife is NOT Jeffrey's mother. Why was she even there?
Because they were together while this was all happening
She was like a mom for him
The spooky music is a little unnecessary lol
He seems to still be in denial
Isnt it old?
The interew
@@tristanz.u nah it was recorded this year
@@Patrickbateman____ it’s a old interview. Look up a interview of him in 2020, he looks much older there. He is already 86
@@Jd18122 do u have the link to the full interview?
The father seems genuinely nice…hard to imagine his son chose the path the he did.
It is not the parents fault. The parents failed in many ways but the initial killings was not the parents fault. Many people who have parents still end up killing them, killing others, and doing horrible things. It's not how they were raised, everyone is their own person, that's why you think differently from your parents because you are different.
That’s not true at all. Psychology has proven the nature versus nurture argument. You’re stupid.
Exactly! I believe that nurture does play a part, but I believe nature is the biggest factor.
How can you say it’s not the parents fault. They neglected him as a young boy. Both his parents left him alone. It’s a loss of empathy.
Lionel Dahmer sexually abused his son Jeff. Everyone is oblivious to that fact bc it was never talked about
@TomTheDog he didn’t get that from his parents. They didn’t nurture him. His mother didn’t even allow him to be held as a baby. She was in and out of mental health facilities.
it's weird how she got offended by his full name...
Its a code maybe..
She is as sick as Lionel and as Jeffry!
@@julieantony5821 I’m interested! What do you mean?
@@BeccaRaptor94
I mean, is that possible that he's still alive and live with another name like his brother, David? Because like you said, why she get annoyed with her stepson full name?
@@julieantony5821That’s the silliest, most conspiratorial, and just flat out wrong explanation I’ve ever seen. It’s obvious why she told Dr. Phil to only refer to him as Jeff: that was their son. That was who they knew him as and what they called him. It’s a coping mechanism to make a distinction between what they knew him as “Jeff” (their son) and what the world knew him as “Jeffrey” (the killer). It’s not rocket science.
*This Father knows WAY much more than people think. He Understands very clearly what Really happened*
Until Lionel passes on, Jeffery’s actions will haunt him and the story will keep on going. I feel as if all the trauma Lionel has endured, he will never be fully at peace on this earth.
What if Jeff’s father contributed to his actions?
The defense “He just didn’t want to be alone” is a huge RED FLAG.
The fathers approach, calmness when speaking… I’m not saying he is… I’m saying the way he defended the acts of a murderer is contrary to a normal issue.
His eyes, face, voice. Seemingly Emotionless. Which could be from years of mental anguish, or something more sinister…
Don't be ignorant , u would defend urself if u saw how many people blaming u fighting u and suing u for something he didn't know and it wasn't even in his knowledge that it might lead to this!
@@SalehQattan 🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪
I think it was his personality and his family nature to protect. I know many people who would blindly back their child or family member up. The line between enabling and support/unity blurs in this case. I don’t know if he enabled him but he definitely blindly supported him.
His father is a sociopath ASPD+NPD and corrupted manipulated and abused dahmer
@@AlexZ-lc6nl he enabled created corrupted and abused Dahmer he made Dahmer a killer through his manipulation
You can tell Lionel is a really decent man. It's sad that he had to experience this as a father. Such a heavy burden to deal with. Talk about soul destroying.
i don't think a decent parent would leave a troubled preteen alone in a home just to divorce and marry again. They never address the fact that they all left the house except him when the divorce happened and let a minor they call "devious" live totally isolated
Not intentional, but the parenting or lack of helped manifest the child into a killer. This short interview has multiple red flags regarding how both parents responded to Jeff's behavior.
Not according to studies some are just born psychopathic
I’m glad the father was willing to talk and admit to his faults so other parents can look for warning signs in their own children. It’s so easy to turn a blind eye and deaf ear.. these interviews make you not want to
I feel horrible for his parents
Yeah they probably blame themselves even though it wasn't their fault
@@Bingbongq really they do
I feel horrible for his brother. He changed his last name.
Proud 👏
My brother is evil. When my parents found out how evil he was they tried to hide it. I really struggled with them hiding his behaviors. Forty years later, I get it. Everyone assumes that it’s the parents fault. They would have been crucified. I’m not saying I agree with what they did, I just get it. I wouldn’t want to be them.
Evil? How do you mean??
Holy!!!! This guy's voice is IDENTICAL to the voice of the actor on the Netflix series of Dahmer.
After what he did, she has the nerve to demand he refer to him as “Jeff”? LMAO that woman has some balls!
She comes across as incredibly cold and dangerous
i was looking to see if someone would mention that 😂
Honestly they both creep me out
In his family he was always Jeff. The media did lot like the nickname so they went with Jeffrey.
Y is she even there?
Its a bad sign when a person attacks an animal.that was a warning sign
He said he never killed any animals just road kill.
@@lolasparks.4539why are you defending him…
How awful for the parents to have to live with this. The kind of insanity and complete lack of empathy this psychopath had wasn't created by his parents. How do you even imagine that your kid's weird behavior is THAT weird? And that's just the stuff he wasn't able to hide from them.
Should the parents spend quality time with their child or children; the parent's should have seen signs that their child has or were having problems. Don't believe I've watched all videos on Jeffrey Dahmer.
Like about his schooling Attendance. I've heard how in the videos he was supposedly super intelligent
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The first few seconds I rolled my eyes. Lady who TH cares if it’s Jeff or Jeffrey?
Yeah, she wants us to respect his NAME, f*** him!
They do
No hate, but to you Jeffrey is exactly what he is, and a stranger. To them, he is a son and someone they know all their lives. So that's why they care about the use of his name. To them Jeffrey is the serial killer and Jeff is the beloved son from the past. Simple.
Lol dr Phil was respectful about it. I wouldn’t have been.
Says a lot about her…
So heavily neglected in life but such worldwide fame in death.
Notoriety is not fame
@@AE-kd4kr Nowadays, it's the same stuff for most people, as long as you are remembered I guess.
Some people believe he started to make his thoughts real after surgery he had when he was little
Naw it happend at home he saw things
Kinda feel for this man his oldest son did all of this and he had to deal with it it’s sad tbh
Karma ?
@@KatsuHoku4karma for what ?
For a "caring parent" he deffinitely made a ton media appearances, interviews, books, and meet and greets!
This
I don't think he has a good time of it.
Just because someone is a sociopath or psychopath. Doesn’t mean they are all murders. There is sick minded people you walk past through stores, mall, ect . The importance of understanding that people need to have good understanding of empathy, and good role models , good parenting comes a long way. It won’t always avoid coming across people like this but watching porn non stop, or having sites with gore on it . Has played with alot of these peoples minds now
Also with schizophrenia.. That disease has nothing to do with serial killing in general but serial killers might be schizophrenic. We must never draw conclusions too quickly.
I feel terrible for these people. They can never get away from the story of their son. You know even after they found out a piece of them had to still love him. Or at least what he once was. Most of us are guilty of having a fascination with the macabre. But the price of that fascination is that these innocent people have their lives tainted with blood and evil forever.
The father is still in so much denial. He doesn't think Jeffrey killed the first victim on purpose by hitting him over the head with a barbell. What?
He thinks he dropped it on him when they were doing weights spotting each other which is a possibility accidents happen right .THEN HE PANICKED . If he wasn't abandoned and morbidly lonely this never would of taken place.
@@lolasparks.4539 Jeffrey still would've killed, Only Steven Hicks wouldn't have been killed
My heart breaks for him
his father is also part of the reason why Jeffrey turned out like that!
Parents in serious denial.
@neekoxbaby They were in denial long before they found out.
I believe when we stop trying to find reasons why people do wrong we will stop giving them reasons to do wrong
Everyone should be accountable for their actions without playing victim of something or someone
And finding a reason for a serial killer has yet to be found and I don't think it's going to be found
Still there's excuses for what happens, but doesn't mean u kill people
so you think things just happen for no reason and we shouldn’t look into why things happen?
I truly feel for the father
I don’t , I know parents aren’t perfect but they should’ve been blamed for raising him
@@KatsuHoku4 We blame parents for their kids having mental illnesses now?
@@gabs3174His mother taking the meds, father taking him on roadkills, dissecting those kills for fun, leaving him alone when they should've given him love and attention, his father not communicating with him when he should have and who knows whatnot! Don't you see that his parents were responsible for this, not that he wasn't. Because you go out there and see for yourself what young kids go through daily... do they all become this? He was sick, yes, but he made a choice, too.
i feel for his father as well.
@@prathameshbhambure How stupid, Dahmer's parents didn't teach him to kill people
this interview is from 20 years ago. You should put that somewhere in the description
Thank you! I was trying to find what year this was.
@@lauramac90it was not 20 years ago lol
It's sad the back and fourth blame between the parents. Imagine existing to pin it on your partner who helped make that child. It was wrong of Lionel to take jeff out looking for roadkill
he just wanted jeff to be happy, he never had hobbies after his traumatic surgery as a kid, so while i agree, i also kinda get why he did jt
Lionel never did that. Where are you getting this information? I want a source
He was 18 when the mother left... How can you blame her for his sick mind?
It's not the Parent's fault Jeffery was just Evil. He should have opened the box. Regardless of what Jeffery said he could have saved a lot of people's lives.
Jeffrey said in one interview that no one was to be blamed but himself.
Exactly the people defending jefreys actions are sick in the head
@@ceciliajonsson4434 Do you really think that Jeff has it n him to betray his Family and blame them?? He was repressed emotionally all his life.