Coolest Bitcoin Mining Miner - Liquid Cooled Experiment
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2018
- This is an experiment using an AntMiner S9 in a fishtank!
Please know that this is an experiment and is solely for learning and experimentation purposes.
The viability of bitcoin mining comes from efficiency. This experiment is NOT the most efficient setup at all. Actually, air cooling is the most cost-efficient process for this device.
Please watch this video with a HUGE grain of salt knowing that this is for learning purposes and just for the fun of experimentation.
Mineral Oil - amzn.to/2BxcENI
Radiator XSPC - amzn.to/2BwQFXi (ended up using 2 )
Barb Fittings - amzn.to/2DFtFqR
120MM Fans - amzn.to/2FlzF8E
Power Supply - amzn.to/2DFBhK2
Pump Part 1 - amzn.to/2Gjt3ZH (not strong enough)
Pump Part 2 - amzn.to/2GpyDK7 (ended up using this one)
Primary purposes of the video was to share my experiment and test various hypothesis of my own.
Lose the gravel. It will eventually clog the pump or radiator. Lose the boat. It will act as a heat sink that retains rather than dissipates. Remove the front plate from the controller to allow circulation and prevent a hot spot there. Remove the fans. They don't behave as propellers. They will hinder rather than facilitate circulation and they'll draw more power doing it than they would in air. Remove as much of the case as possible to maximize exposure to the oil and eliminate heat retention. Place the suction and return lines on opposite ends of the unit to create flow. The whole purpose of doing this is to be able to run the unit at higher frequency (which means higher hash rate) while simultaneously consuming less electricity. If done correctly, the power consumption can easily be reduced by around 25% while simultaneously producing around 40% higher hash rate.
Hi Ed - do you mine? Would love to learn about your systems for mining optimization
@@hijunglegym88 it’s not really my system. I just pointed out the most obvious things that he did wrong. When I was mining (briefly) I had a setup in a medium size cooler that worked pretty good. But I got out after the last halving. Electricity is too expensive and the reward is too low. In fact, crypto is a terrible idea now. It doesn’t even make a good way to store wealth confidentially and it was never suitable for investment.
@@CuttinEJ LMAO. It's not cRyPt0, it's Bitcoin and shitcoins. And only Bitcoin is worth it.
@@jose_s_bam7938 bitcoin is crypto. And none of them are worth it.
The boats the best bit 🤣
This is literally one of the coolest things I think i've seen when talking crypto!
Hey brother, how come you haven't made more videos and updates on this? i hope you're doing OK man! you've helped and inspired so many of us who don't own million dollar mining farms and have access to expensive cooling systems.
Thanks for showing us this in action. Very interesting experiment!
Great video! Can you make a follow up video like you mentioned with the temperature checks, and also the noise manifold?
5:58 everything is looking GOOD
That cooling setup ROCKs man.
It's a great way to handle all the noise, as well as the heat. Great idea!
This is sick!!
Being a true spaceman, he sold all his furniture for S9 Antminers.
looks like he made the right choice considering it is 2021 now.
Best thing I have seen! They should have not been advertising Bitcoins tanks but bitcoin fishtanks.... they way of the future :)
I will continue to enjoy your project. Thanks for demoing this. Hope the rocks stay out of your fan.
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Hello, Greetings, you could tell us without the team still works, as I read this liquid degrades components, thanks in advance for your comments
Idk about using gravel too. The sediment I’m sure gets rotated through the oil and acts like an abrasive. I can’t see it not
It is going to negatively impact the flow of the oil
@@t29904 hey I guess it doesn't matter. The s9 wasn't used that long anyway lol
Excellent brother, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Blessings from Colombia
first of its kind have seen.. opens up new possibilities. thanks
Greetings, excellent your video, when you did the tests, the heat extractors of the machine, being immersed in the oil, had any problems and the machine continued mining perfectly?
A lot of people are asking if the Antminer still working now days.
Don't stop thinking outside the box. I'm also working on a scalable solution. Essentially your challenge is the heat exchange efficiency. Keep posting updates. Good luck
Mad Mining Might do an update soon.
Brave man! Cool project!
Great Idea for Sound and Cooling. Nice "" Experiment.""
Greetings, excellent video, I have a question when submerging the machine in the oil, the fans continued to work properly or at some point they turned off and the machine stopped working. Thank you for your answer.
i love that...keep it on!
Cool and thanks for your idea. I enjoyed watching it.
Couldn't you say, if this year the same machine continues to work?
Very cool....did you not face any issues with the fan rpms being affected due to the viscosity of the mineral oil putting a load on the fans?
So from my understanding: the fans do spin slower, but it isn't bad for them.
Fan speed is controlled by current, and then assumed to be roughly correct. So the regulator does not know that the fan is actually spinning slowly.
You can remove the fans just put the hoses under the miner to make it boil out.
@@NiceMoKnows you will need a fan emulator for that
Thanks for showing your long-term success with the uptime of 1min and 26sec of uptime. 6:20
thanks for the idea, its really nice decoration idea for hobbiest home miners. i wonder how will be the noise level though
Awesome!! What kind of radiator are u using ?? Give us the the part list ;) to build it. Regards
alejandro L trujillo S literally any radiator would do then size the hose and pump to the rad
XSPC 360mm radiator
Use a car or truck radiator!
I have to ask? Would not the viscosity not matter with the radiator flow rate. If they are rated for water not oil I would imagine the flow rate would not be optimal for cooling with a standard water cooling radiator.
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Great job. I think you need a fan simulator to replace the actual fan.
congratulations friends!!! excelent video excelente team!! wondeful imagen man
Rule number one: no rubber! It Will degrade in to the mineral oil. Hope u found a loop hole otherwise happy cleaning cx
the mineral oil for a rig my size would cost $800.00 I think if you can buy bulk high voltage transformer oil and really go big it could work. I think its a good idea worth investigating further.
Don't/is very poisonus-cancer warrantied
Great job, system evolutions? long-run temperatures? other videos with miners and dielectric mineral oil?
Thank you
Loved it DUDE
u forgot to add fish
Good Guy its Not water
and chips ;)
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hahaha wtf hahha
Nice and informative .
Mr Dylan how long have you been mining with this trend ?
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Oh man!! At first I thought this was some prank .... man this is crazy... LOL!! Great stuff 👌👌👍👍
That was really awesome sir ^_^ nice
hey Joel, after 3 years is still working? and if yes can you send me a exact list of the material used, i want to try also
You think something will work after 3 years of being in liquid?
@@AlbionAleksio31yes
@@AlbionAleksio31 what do you think transmission have man...? electronics in hot oil!!! they last 5 to 10 years
Hi, we are manufacturing and selling immersion liquid cooling box and miners. Here's a video for your reference https: ua-cam.com/video/w029O8xXBHM/v-deo.html
you are going to have problems with the cooler of the same equipment since the mineral oil restricts the speed of the fan cooler and it may burn
It's true but the thermal coefficient of the oil is way higher then air
Great video. However, everyone should know that mineral oil is flammable and can be used in an oil lamp. If it catches fire, then it will burn and burn. If it is near flammable material such as a cloth then the oil could feed that material similar to a wick. If you use this type of system for cooling, then please have an automatic fire suppression system capable of quenching oil fires. Remember, the electric system could also cause a spark and ignite the oil.
MIneral oil is not flammable, its combustable...big difference
Awesome! I wondered how you power up your fan&radiator? hook up to one of your 6 pin plug of your power supply? and do save electricity as well?
crazy I had no idea mineral oil could be used as a non-conductive coolant
There are videos about that from like 10 years ago.
You can actually use many industrial liquids as non-conductive coolant. Also water. You just need to make sure that there are no impurities..
Oil is just better, because it does not evaporate on the operating temperatures of such a system.
polyolefin fluid is the best - least toxic and degrades the slowest. Datacenters can use half a million litres of the stuff!
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Great job, but may need to move pump higher in tank to reach the hot oil were at the bottom is the colder oil.
Come on man, we need to know how efficient this was. How hot did the fluid get? Was the radiator able to transmit enough heat out of the medium? Did you stick with it? Why not?
Leaving out details. Fluid tested until 110 degrees. Max temperature reached in +-30min at a normal room temperature. Minus +-10 room temperature reached in +30min. Two radiators (these specifically) cannot remove the heat generated. This is somewhat given because they are built for ~350 watt of heat removal give or take. A custom radiator would do. I still wanted to test this though. I did not stick with it because it was purely an experiment to get some numbers in order to properly calculate scalability requirements. There is a lot of math out there to calculate this but no practice. I hope that helps.
Joel Pagan thanks for the reply. It would be interesting to combine this with a window ac to more effectively draw the heat from the radiator. Or place a large radiator with a fan outside of the window to place the waste heat outside directly.
Stephen Owen Definitely. It really depends on your goal. One miner and trying to get rid of noise? Then just build a simple sound box with mufflers and loaded mass roll. Trying to keep cool and noiseless 5-10 in an office closet? Then just use this setup with a heat exchange condenser (the ones that look like an ac). Only if you can justify the extra cost of equipment and oil. Somewhat hard to make the case for that though. Bitmain tried to do liquid cooling with the c1 but it's not as cost effective. Works OK for hobbyists but not scalable.
I'm willing to demonstrate a large scale solution if enough people find value in doing so.
What window setup were you considering?
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Fuck off Frank.
Runtime of 1min 26 seconds, how does it looks after a day.
Thank you for sharing this, i've been looking to see if someone has done this before i go ahead and do it lol
So.. Did you did it?
يوسف كامل كاظم مسائي c I’ve done this with a computer a decade ago. Haven’t tried with the machine. Not cost effective
Great, informative video. thank you for sharing
In theory, this setup should work with any miner, right? Something like the s19 Pro at 110th/s should do awesome in a home, I wonder?
But probably better to use bigger aquarium and bigger radiator .
I read something about the mineral oil degrades rubber... So not sure if this is a good idea or not
Does someone have tried it? Does it work in long run?
great video!
Some intense mineral oil pouring music
I have a few questions. How long did you use this? And during that time, were you able to overclock the miner and maintain decent temps? How was the sound level ? And lastly, after you decided to take the miner out of the mineral oil, how did you clean it out? Thanks for the video!
all I can think of cleaning it with is QD electrical contact cleaner
Cleaning this stuff will be a problem..maybe yuo can use ipa (isopropil alcohol, but i think yuo gona need to disasemble the unit and clean very carefully if yuo want to work in air
@@noway8233 I read this as use ipa "beer" lol and was instantly like yupp a couple IPA's and some elbow grease...lol but yeah iso would work wonders, I would use 50% or 70% so it doesn't dry that fast...or qd electronic cleaner
Great video. Is it still running? Lifespan of the ASICs when submerged in mineral oil?
Aboout 250 years... Human being nowadays can live 510 years... so you can expect to have one spare ASIC in you closet.
@@GOLTURBO555 bro what
@@GeeMannn Quarentine. We all gonna die, arrested at our own houses.
wtf is wrong with this guy or am i just stupid
I guess that it didn't work for long
If it wasn't for the Boat, it would've worked, great Job :)
if the the noise very good for bedroom, i mean the night too, i love your video
so what is the result after 2 months in operation , i think using mineral oil is genius keeps the temp under control noise reduction
Deterioration and thing start to cough up blood.
Did this like 10 years ago :D still got the vids in my channel and a blog with bunch of information about it. boring. The oil gets warmed up pretty quick and then the whole thing gets hot. Cooling it costs extra energy = youre loosing money on cooling that oil. Also some people write about health concerns (a little bit of that oil evaporates in the air in your room as far as i could find out back then. and then youre breathing it constantly ...)
would an uber radiator help, bunches alum tubing through the tank and pump ice water from chest with 12v water pump.. post your link. projects like these are great. thanks Jeff
2 years* ago
*losing
Hi Joel i have issue about fan, firmware dont start the miner becouse fan is too slow. Id like also remove totally the fan, Do you have any advise for me?
If you know electronics you can create a 555 timer circuit that fakes the fan.
Or just buy one:
www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Fan-Spoofer-2-Fan-simulator-remover-for-Antminer-S9-D3-L3-oil-submersion-/183166429510?roken=cUgayN&soutkn=vDZ6Im
Hi justin, i have the same problem than Daniele, but my cuestion is if you have an idea how you can run you fans and we don't ??? is any issue or trick that i need to know, i have an antminer a3
Look cool but I doubt if it works in the long run. Thanks for the show.
as a prank the camera man should have replaced the oil in the bottles with water lol!
Oil is no transmiter any electricity .. so is good way coling
That was sarcasm :3
dont take risc with water but oil good . is no problem for electiricty many motors electric is inside oil
distilled water can be used.
distilled water is still water and it does not change the chemical bonding and conductivity of the compound.
roi 6 million years
Nah, its about 10 months
nice video m8
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Cool idea! Can you post a vid of how to set it up with a mac? Thats the setup I will have. Didnt know that was even possible.
great video that inspired me- can you share details about the mineral oil that is required for cooling
Still waiting for a update.... of this 😐
been 3 years....still waiting
@@mikolcreates yeep still waiting 🥲
liquid nitrogen submersion ..,.???
Battlespace X I'll do it if enough people request doing so. I'll start looking into it.
Edit- Only benefit seems to find out the max overclock. Hasn't anyone already done so?
Joel Pagan okay thanks thumbs up for that
Note that silicon chips has working temperature range, under certain temperatures they might not work or may work faulty. They all have a datasheet containing the working temperature range, that is usually between around -50 and +100C. If there is a kind of luck the silicon chip can create that much heat to heat up the conducting material between the chip and the coolant to maintain the working heat range even with such an excess cooling, then it might work. In worst case there is a chance to break the chip because of thermal difference on the two sides. A lot of materials crack if one side is overcooled and other side it warm. Silicon chips are not different. Keep in mind this might ruin the equipment.
So build it similar to a MRI Scanner. We use liquid helium to cool our magnets. but we layer our silicone and wires in multiple layers of epoxy prior to the "direct" exposure to the liquid.
But even so, the more heat you generate the more of whatever liquid you'll boil off unless you use a condenser unit that captures the boil-off and re-liquefies it.
not only watercooled but it is pretty quiet that one I think you can run 10 of those in a NYC apartment without disturbing anyone..WOW
good job man thx a lot
Are there any points for concern when dipping your miner into this or a similar substance? If a novice wanted to carry out this experiment, what might an adept miner say to them in order to prevent damage?
Mineral oil is not the best choice but it is significantly cheaper.
Really cool project. How loud does it get?
This should be how to silence your miner
you can put silence box around it.
vsn anyone explain how to run the fans with spoofers and so on because everyone has missed this out. i should do a video on it myself
@@ashtongrist you can purchase them online (eBay). He also missed out (but comments further down), that with his current set up, it's not enough to cool the oil sufficiently. A bigger radiator and pump is needed.
Cool project ;)
Tnx to give little more job to my manufacturers of aquariums. People needs job and your ideas are wellcome
What if you were to put everything ( tank and all ) into a small refrigerator?
A refrigerator is not designed to cool an active heat source. Think about how long it takes to cool a 12 pack of coke which isn't not generating heat continuously. You'd end up with a really hot fridge.
A refrigerator only pulls the energy (heat) from the inside, and drags less energy into the inside. The hotter it is outside a fridge, it will get hotter inside the fridge.
Hey man I was wondering if you had any problems since mineral oil contains corrosive sulfur in it. In the long run have you had any oxidation problems or failures in your hardware/electronics? Anyone here done this ??
linustechtips use the same kit for a pc, and what i a can tell you is that mineral destroy plastic parts, this miner are not desinged for this, i am not saying that is not a bad idea but you had to do a lot of modding for dont destroy anything, all the power cables conectors and plastic parts will get damage in the long term, but pcb heatsink and other metalic stuff would be fine
@@jorgeneo560 Hi Mate, I plan to create someting similar, so please tell me, are you sure they use the 100% same oil? As I see it is a food grade type so it is not allowe to destroy plastic parts normaly.
Zsolt Dobra i didnt build, but in theory will work, you can buy a gallon in their page and submerge what ever you wanna try wait two weeks and see, if its ok theres would be no problem
Good Job bro
I love you trying experiments ..super vidio
lets see the muffler video, please...
how to waste money.
machael how to be an idiot.
C_Qurity who is machael ?
michael ....irony
irony is machael u say ?
That escalated quickly.
This is reminiscet of the Cray supercomputer. Have you enhanced the CPU working frequency ? Plerhaps you can run your CPUs at double speed with this array. Your curious doggie is realy nice.
We have developed oil cooling technology in China. After oil cooling, the temperature can be controlled at about 30°, and the computing power can be overclocked by 15%-20%.
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I would remove the fans on the miner. Waste of power
Joel B True. Depending on what firmware you run. Some older firmware will not allow you to hash if fans are not detected.
Joel Pagan how has it been mining so far?
Let's say I had a big tank with 4 miners in it, with oil, do you suppose there would be enough heat in the oil to flow through a coil in my ductwork to heat my home reasonably?
Joel B Technically it would be possible but I don't think you would want that because you want the inverse of that setup. In your case your describing the desire to have the greatest amount of heat go through ducted pipes and then home radiators. In the mining setup you want the least amount of heat going through pipes because your trying to keep the temperature -10 below room temp.
I don't want to give specific numbers because they are highly subjective and not fully scientific. However, I am completely certain that 4 of these can keep a 2500sq ft. home perfectly warm all winter long if the home has reasonable insulation and you duct the output to your home vents. No need for costly oil nor containers.
Joel B you will cook the chips in the device. NOT recommended. you need a 300 watts motor with a POOL pump and a car radiator to cool the oil enough. this cost a lot and a month for constructing it.
Ravana Brahma Rakshas Why would you need a 300watt pump? With a specific type of looped setup you can avoid having a pump.
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Great video dude. Taken (as you correctly pointed out) with a bit of salt, it does serve as a very interesting experiment!
Sidechain question: where did you get the black muffler adapters screwed onto the miner at the beginning of the vid?
Thanks. The muffler adapters I bought one on eBay and Amazon. I personally don't recommend them. Maybe the newer ones are better. But long story short is they don't function as you'd expect. The tradeoff of ~5-10Db for 10+ degrees in temperature is not good at all + lower hash rate and higher Watt consumption. Overall just not worth it.
Bitcoin minig = ewaste
zamazalotta This isn't mining. This is fishing.
This year my miners completely eliminated my heating bill.
He is tanking
Ironic that you can't spell "mining" correctly.
Indeed, that's why Zoin is such a better option. CPU mining. You could mine with your own personal computer with out the need to invest a dollar.
Moronic idea that obviously wouldn't work better than air and would rapidly degrade your components. Take that rad and attach it directly to the chips, and then increase airflow over the rad instead of putting the whole thing in what is essentially an incubator and using a radiator that is a fraction the volume of the fluid inside the tank that would obviously not be able to deal with the heat. Hugely irresponsible video as I can see people asking how to build this in the comments, without finishing the video and showing people that this doesn't work, and instead calling it "literally the coolest" is encouraging people to throw thousands of dollars and the planet's resources into the trash
That is where you are so so wrong! If anything, this will last longer than any other miner being cooled by air.
1. No dust
2. No corrosion to the PCB
3. This would keep the miner MUCH cooler than just with air
What would be even better would be to use a Peltier!
Dean O mineral oil does damage to plastic and rubber parts...so it depends if it would last longer in mineral oil....
Lipi19821 it is submerged. No damage will be done.
inception69 read my comment again and tell me where you got idea that I dont know its submerget...
there are many PCs built in mineral oil tanks and they would last for years with almost no damage. because the oil lubricates every mechanical part and at the same time preserve its condition better than being out in the open air, exposed to more impurities.
OMG Dude I love you. I'm starting on this ASAP. I have the worst one d3. Ultimate noise.
Alex Hlynskyy Noise? Create a loaded mass box and decibels will be between ~35-40. Various have been built and shared as well as the schematics.
D3 still making profits? I thought already die
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When you take mining to the next level
wow that is super cool, no pun intended
some fine dust meshes would do wonders for not getting gravel in the miner
That’s really nice if you don’t mind can you give us the part list with more details like you bought it from where & how do you installed each part step-by-step thank you.
The parts list is under the video information at the top. I looked for it too. It's there.
Realy Cool. I think it´s an eyecatcher.
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Pirate ship was a nice touch...
Nice man, very cool indeed. How much DB when its in the tank?
all fun and games until you try to resell it or the mineral oil changes or something in the liquid cimistry changes where it becomes conducive due to contamination