Immersion Cooling RTX 3080 ETH Mining Rig with Dielectric Coolant
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Fully Submerged Ethereum Mining RTX 3080 Under Liquid!
Parts list for this janky build:
Tank ---- ------amzn.to/3EOI8Qq
Radiator -----amzn.to/3qd0cjj
Pump ---------amzn.to/3khGkaN
LHR 3080 ---No idea...
Dielectric Coolant ----- engineeredflui...
Running a graphics card submerged in mineral oil works, but this stuff works better.
Im doing a test to see how cool I can get a graphics card while Mining Ethereum.
There is this specially engineered fluid called Dielectric Coolant. It doesnt conduct any electricity at all and therefor you can literally just dunk your electronics and run them under this liquid!
#GPU #immersion #Mining
Everything runs very cool and very quietly. Im going to be doing a test with ASICs in a couple of weeks when more of this stuff arrives.
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Little known fact: if you turn a container around 180 degrees (so that the air pocket at the top is exposed to the opening) then no more glug! It's because the make-up air then has a direct path to enter the container. (This is especially helpful with those thin rectangular cans of paint thinner, etc.)
paintthinner??
@@swoodc sorry... what is your question?
@@swoodc Yeah you know that shit used to…thin paint?
@@artificiallyunintelligent4537 Ohhhhhh, paint de-thickener??!
Bro he is obviously not intelligent. The entire project was a waste
Just a tip for that style bottle. If you flip it and have the handle out it pours smoother because the handle acts as airflow to prevent splashing
i wanted to scream so bad. Thank you :) hahaha
You’re like a super tech villain with all your contraptions 🤣 your house would be a fun work environment!
This channel will go up to a million subs in no time. Subbed!
Dude -- you're hilarious. Am curious to hear how the ASICs do in the immersion as far as increased hashrate, reduction in electricity usage and noise. Keep em comin!
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i have 8 L3+ running in my spare bedroom and a s9 lol i want to see next vid and man i love the way you just dive in, i no longer feel alone. good work sir !
WOW thats a LOT of heat and noise!!! Do you pump it out a window!?? And yeah, I mean, youll need like 50 gallons of the stuff to cool 9 rigs, but the silence may be worth it
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE yes i have a huge fan pulling out the window and now that its cooling off outside i rotate them for heat my house at night
Sick video man. Have a good night!
Whoa, you might have been the first one to see it! Off to catch up to the new Succession episode
BAHAHAHAHA pouring the bitcoolant lol omfg awesome. Fantastic video btw
You are so responsible, man! Thanks for all the valuable info you presented here. It’s so hands on
Gotta love the quality of the content. Both the camera and mic are crisp. Good job.
Dunno why linus tech tips haven't done a video to make this mainstream yet. Good on you for making a vid on it.
"good thing it's f*ing dielectric" -- I died! hahahaha
Hahaha, I really should have poured that more carefully! Little windex and we’re all good!!
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE And it seems they have some solvents; I imagine for cleaning the cards themselves once done.
As for that fan controller, was the programming hard?
anything for youtube lets go love this
this seems like a great solution for an antminer, could you just chuck a whole btc miner in a big enough tub and not have all that noise they make
I’m glad you asked! I’ve already shot and am right now editing a video where I did just that
I'm going to do this too.
we actually already do this, i will soon post about it if you are interested, we are based in Michigan, and so far our emersion bath temperature has not exceeded 55C (6x104TH miners)
Nice videos! No clickbait, no bs, straight to the point! Keep it up!
That’s a 420 dollar jug
Kick-ass video thanx
Dude you just started a trend ... I was cringing tho so much when you put that GPU in ... Brave man
Immersion cooling has been around for decades..
@@ljordanism yes, but I've never seen someone do it in their bedroom
You need better friends 😆
@@ljordanism you're wrong mate, I need friends, I have none.
Beautiful . . . brings a tear to me eye!
If you turn the jug upside down (spout on top instead of bottom) it won't glug, and it pours smooth -- works for quart size oil bottles for putting oil in your car too....
I should know this, thats the way I put oil in my truck. I may need you on set moving forward, Chadwick.
The quality of these videos are immaculate
Wrong video... but you saved my L3+ from that damn virus. Thanks hoss
Nice! I'm trying to set up the same exact thing on my Avalon miners! I'll have to make up cables to run from the power supply to the hash boards because Avalon uses aluminum busses. It seems to be industry consensus that cooling the power supplies is unnecessary. I love seeing this and all the technical details you paid attention to.
We are manufacturing and selling the immersion cooling box, please check this video ua-cam.com/video/e-MFJc0QAU8/v-deo.html
I have an MSI gaming trio 3080 nonlhr doing 103mh with 72c on memory with the stock air cooler. Just change pads immersion is good for asics
WOW! This is more experimental than functional for 3080's - also I have 7 ASICs in my warehouse and that is my natural next progression!
But shoot thats cool for air cooled.. I changed the pads on this one, and couldnt get it under 90, still.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE the Msi gaming trio has a specific plate on its cooler for direct memory cooling, with thermapad/thermal paste replacement they run coooo
Agreed all of my 3080s run 100 to 103 and hover in the low 70s on memory temp just keep fan speed up and keep the room under 78f......also I didn't change my pads for these results.
@@mingscustoms ahhh that plate must be key for the memory temps. Its strange all the manufacturers dont just copy whichever design worked the best!
The way he feeding that liquid very scary to watch 😀
Love it!!!! Keep at it you mad scientist.
I had looked into this company years ago, for the same allplications. Just nver got around to pulling the trigger. Thanks to your video might change my mind.
my lord you gotta turn the fans off on the actual gpu when youre using a cooling soloution like this, this is the only real risk of blowing your card, aside from moisture collecting via evaporation in crevices of the card and potentially creating a short
That’s a pretty cypherpunk fish tank you got there.
Subbed for this awesome idea
I enjoy your content. Good job
I really want to see immersion cooled ASICs with an automotive radiator.
We are manufacturing and selling the immersion cooling box, please check this video ua-cam.com/video/e-MFJc0QAU8/v-deo.html
Wow u going up on the videos 📈📈📈📈
"Thermal greases quickly breakdown in our Dielectric Coolants, and will eventually be washed out of the gap thereby eliminating their ability to transfer the heat to the heat sink." -From their FAQ. Need to replace it with indium.
Yep, I’ve since read the same thing. I’ll definitely include that in an update video!
We can take off the heat sink no need for thermal greases
You can't remove the heat sinks lol
@@ljordanism You cant remove the heat sinks? Is it best to use that thermal epoxy and keep the heat sinks?
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE You need the heatsink on the GPUs. It needs a larger surface area for the GPUs to dissipate heat. I've tried it without a heatsink, GPU will skyrocket to over 90 C and shutoff after a few minutes of running the miner.
you are pouring the liquid out upside down
The dripping on the card hurt my soul
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great content!
Awesome man
First off, very smart move to pour liquid from a height, creating splashes, instead of resting the neck of the container on the edge of the tank. It’s like you’ve never poured anything before. Second off, a dangerous way to deal with a 2000$ card, using cheap parts with an expensive card. it seems to be your first time dealing with immersion cooling. But maybe it’s little money for you, I hope it is. Then there’s a problem with the thermal transfer. Since you don’t use convection, the liquid may eventually wash off thermal paste and degrade thermal pads, and then your card may die from heat
First off, yes it was a bit of a mess. Second, it’s true $2000 isn’t a huge purchase for me, but that’s no reason to put it in any danger. Luckily, electrocool has a zero change of damaging anything on the card, and in the event everything went wrong while I wasn’t home (which ended up happening, this tank was incompatible with this fluid and it ate a hole in it!) these cards have a feature to shut themselves off if they get too hot, which it did, and with no damage to the card.
It’s now back in the air after a thorough cleaning and degreasing, acting as a gaming computer because mining is now unprofitable at my electric rate.
i plan on putting 4 s19j pros in a 150 quart cooler and piping the coolant outside to a hydraulic oil cooler in a out door storage box. i will use a heated floor pump venation fans to move and cool the bit cool oil.
I love this plan!!
I’ve shot a video of immersion cooling one S19j and cooling it with a car radiator. I’m editing it now!
Cool liquid to 12C (Clean-room MillSpec) increase card efficiency and life. Remove small radiator, connect liquid pump to HVAC radiator, increase cooling, decrease overall cooling power consumption.
This little kit was just a proof of concept for putting the whole shabang under immersion to include my 7 asic miners. I hadn’t thought of connecting into my HVAC system, and I’m not sure how that works since that coolant is under pressure.
Please please. More immersion cooling vids!
Yes sir!! I’m touring the factory over at engineeredfluids.com on December either with their CEO! I’m going to go home with a full kit to get all my ASICS under the immersion. Many videos coming!! Sorry it’ll be a couple weeks
I mine with a water cooled 3090, no direct experience with 3080s - but the HUGE temp upgrade to my 3090 was buying a standalone Bykski water cooled BACKplate. That took my mem junction temps from 100+ down to mid 70s when mining at maximum oc. (Nicehash) Since the 3080 don't have a backside vram bank it might not help as much for your card, but I'd recommend at least looking into it. I wasted a stupid amount of time on homemade heat sinks, high end thermal pads and what not. Better pads certainly wasn't dumb, but that active backplate delivered the goods - way bigger difference for mining than the frontface waterblock.
Oh interesting! Well wether it works well for a 3080 or not, it’ll make for a good video!
Doesn't work on 3080 because the memory isn't double sided like on the 3090. Tested by myself.
i would totally do this again, rather than buy all the water blocks. I already did this with mineral oil back in the day. It worked.
Great content, although a 3080 non-lhr should get to 98 (sometimes even 102-ish)
90 seems at the low end.
if you have the fans on pwm theyll check the speed ,set on dc tthey just send a voltage,most motherboards will post a warning though on slow fans unless you disable to post warning and hold
Thx for sharing the experience 👏
"All these numbers are made up." Sounds like the budget lately!
Nicholas: Big graphics cards are loud
ASIC: Hold my beer
Liquid cooling my ASICS in early December!!! Can’t wait for that much harder oroject
*hahhaa "Good thing its F*cking Dielectric!"
I call bull on the radiator only being about to run engine coolant. What matters is the material of the radiator it's made out of and if the fluid your using doesn't have any negative reaction to those elements. It's either aluminum or copper. What's more durable and widely available is an all aluminum radiator.
I think you’re right, I was wrong about that.. although, over time, the rubber in the radiator cap would have gone brittle and lost the seal..
Could get a couple large aquariums and run this fluid in this fluid, this is interesting,
Thanks for this content. I subscribed and liked this video in order to be updated on future content regarding this.
Okay so this is great and all if you have large scale. But let me tell you this. I have that gpu and you can achieve sub 80s and if your outside air is low being winter, mine are in the high 70's right now for memory junction. The reason is that for that specific model, there is a gap between the heatsink and the plate that sits on the gpu. In other words, you aren't getting full contact between the heatsink and the plates that cool off the vram. I think if you did the thermal pad mod and followed some instructions I have, you can achieve even 70 degrees in your setup or even lower.
Let me know if you're interested, but the product to use is Frosty Thermal Pad 12.8 W'MK. Highly rated product and many miners already use it as its compressibility is king among thermal pads. Better than many others for that reason.
Pro tip if you put spout at top side rather then bottom it will allow air in and stop glug glug glug. So spin jug 180 nd boom
Thank you for the video!!!
Waiting for the asic video 💪🏻
I cant wait to get them under the coolant! One week and one day away!
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE amazing timing, I want to do the same .
was looking all over for a good DIY, thanks!
change your pads with gelid if your 3080 watercooled has junction that high when mining. I have a 3080ti and a 3080 in the same loop/pc(watercooled) and the cpu with 2 360 radiators and the highest the junction temp gets is 68 degrees(and the bottom radiator doesn't even get to dissipate much heat if I'm being honest i only feel cold air coming trough it while the top one, well that puts out a lot of heat). the pump only runs at around 60% and the water temp is around 35c(per my temp sensor) fans granted are the noctua ippc 3000rpm(i run them at 2000rpm) for my peace of mind, but i had redux for over 8m at full speed and the temp was maybe 3 4 degrees more
Nice & Thanks :)
I am just getting into mining building my very 1st machine from old pc.. Out of every concept for mining I have come across this is by far what I want to learn about.. no noise in water and efficiency yeah where to start????
That overengineered fluid is mineral oil... the same that is used in oenology. With a fancy name it costs 4x.
It’s possible they lie to the public and you’re right. But I asked them on the record for a future video wether or not it was mineral oil or transformer oil and they said it was not. My guess is that it’s a modified transformer oil that doesn’t eat up plastic as fast.
Box fan problem solved
this seems much more convenient than repadding the cards!
water-cooling looks cool and makes a great video but the more efficient method is replacing the thermal pads on your cards. you can get 80 degrees on air cooling easy.
You sure can, but it’s really hard to make it silent.
But yes, immersion cooling is DEFINITELY more geared towards ASIC miners, that video is coming when I get all the equipment in a couple weeks
Put the radiator outside. No more AC running 24/7.
We are manufacturing and selling the immersion cooling box, please check this video ua-cam.com/video/e-MFJc0QAU8/v-deo.html
I could set an evaporative (cooling tower) on my porch fill it with dielectric coolant and go directly to the cpu tank. No middle plate frame heat exchanger.
This is wild. Pretty cool video dude. I'm wondering: how long do you think that coolant can run without breaking down or accumulating enough impurities to change it's electrical resistance? Or is that just not an issue?
I’m interested to find that out also.. But this is a specifically engineered fluid for this exact purpose (engineeredfluids.store/collections/electrocool/products/ec-100).
Apparently it has no freezing and no boiling point and it will never evaporate! But yeah, we’ll see how long it keeps the same regulated temperature…
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE your link comes up 404... the question I guess is the fluid hydroscopic at all? Does it draw in water or any foreign contaminant if not ran in a sealed environment
@@buffjoeyd the company is engineered fluids. They evidently made this stuff specifically for this exact purpose.
So unlike mineral oil, they don’t break down rubber or metal coatings and get contaminated. I mean, I’m sure since my container isn’t perfectly sealed, over time a bunch of stuf from the air will find it’s way in there, but it’s FAR cleaner than the open environment.
you will have to add filter to the system for sure (particles, humidity & possibly oil filter)
@@sunnyliu3488 I wonder how good of a job the fish tank filter that came with that cheap tank would do.. It would certainly get any large particulate... Though if I want this to be a long term cooling solution, im going to need to make this whole set up way less janky. Maybe a closed system with PVC and a more substantial pump.
I replaced the thermal pads on my RTX 3080 FE and my vram temps are 82-84 with fan running at 69%. Hash rate is 97MH/s. If the coolant brought vram temps to 70s and stayed there; this would be interesting, but it appears it doesn’t so much better than simply replacing thermal pads
It appears that is correct.
There was a step I missed that I know now I was supposed to do; when using immersion, you need to replace thermal paste with thermal epoxy - I may have to revisit this experiment.
you can get best temps using a peltier to down tº of liquid
Really interesting, thankyou
Dude, I just discovered your channel!
Welcome aboard!!
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE thank you!I’m looking forward to watching many more, friend.
Running a RTX 3090 + RTX 3080 in my gaming rig, custom water loop with EKWB and the memory junction temps stays at 72°c on the rtx 3090(Suprim X) and 68°c on the rtx 3080 minging Eth, memory chipsets in the rtx 3080 stays at around 50°c(EVGA FTW3 ultra has sensors on some of the memory chips). got a bit to hot for comfort mining raptoreum on cpu at the same time tho...
Does this leave a residue when you take it out and dry it? Do you have to put your cards in the dishwasher to clean them after? It looks like the coolant is super expensive. I do like this setup! Nice job!
The coolant is pretty expensive. engineeredfluids.store/collections/electrocool/products/ec-100
And if you take the cards back out, it’s basically an oil, so yes a pretty major cleanup effort will be necessary. This stuff never evaporates, in fact.
Eng. Fluide mâle à coolant solvent for maintenance purposes
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE is it just mineral oil?
Dude! This video is AWESOME!!! You had me cracking up the whole time, not to mention what an amazing cooling solution! How much heat does that little radiator put out? Similar to the oem water cooled card? Thanks for doing this!
Yep, it puts out about the same as a water-cooling loop.. This method is by no means better than water cooling - its just way more fun to look at!
thank you for this im going to try it with 3 gpus
Best tip move to hiveos... things are just more stable.. give it a go you won't go back..
Amazing information
What is the freezing temperature for this fluid?
This fluid can not crystallize and therefore has no freezing temperature. It does get thicker as it gets colder though; it’s listed somewhere on their website when it’s so cold it stops flowing. Engineeredfluids.com
the sata holy fk
Hahaha, but immersed in a constantly cooled oil!
This is what mining pool means, lol
imersion cooling is awsome we did our 20s x 20p samsung 18650 30q batteries with it,even under full load now they only go up 5-6 degrees and thats 3 to 400 amps
but we added a radiator and fans and peltier unit ,for really hot and really cold situations
all pc spec parts though
20s20p!!?? What are you powering with that much voltage?!?!
I'd love a setup like this for my GPU rigs. damn.
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Use the 3M fluid and it works better and don’t need to cool the fluid!
If the card heats the fluid, and you don’t cook the fluid, what stops the fluid from just getting hotter and hotter forever??
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE the 3M NOVEC fluid vaporizes at low temp and then turns back into fluid at room temp at the top of the sealed tank
That. Is. So. Cool! Awesome video work. So much detail. Not the fish tank the kids want but I just might try it.
The whole system is actually pretty simple! The fluids are a little expensive (here's what I used www.engineeredfluids.com/electrocool) but I can imagine a SUPER neat looking display where your computer and ALL of your cards live in a much bigger, maybe vertical tank, as almost a piece of art.. Art that prints money!
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE love that idea! Project for my holiday break.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE have you tried absolute core clock settings? Tends to run more efficient with slightly higher hashrates.
@@GaryKokaisel you’re saying turning UP core clocks? I’ve been running my core clocks at -100 offset..
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Yes, try locking the core clock somewhere in the range of 1010 to 1050. I use 1080 actually, but every card is a little unique. The result for me was lower watts and higher MH. I have a Dell RTX 3080 and I am getting 101.3 MH at just 223 watts, and it doesn't thermal throttle. Worth a try. Red Panda Mining did a video about it if you want more details about how it works.
Would like to see a follow-up video where you submerge the power supply in that stuff. I might be waiting awhile.....
I mean, you CAN do that, but the power supply doesn’t really run hot. It may be more convenient overall to have the whole entire thing contained though!
I will do a follow up; mostly because I used the wrong kind of plastic for the container and it has since suffered a catastrophic failure!
I had to use that to keep my radar cool
lol, I do janky air cools and right now I have a sensor on my bench, my h/r on 3080 (non ti) 109 memory junction temps 78c I'm not sure how yours is still so high, I would recommend modifying the thermal pads before hand and maybe throwing on separate backplate/removal of the backplate
Yeah, it also turns out you need to use ‘thermal epoxy’ instead of thermal paste under oil. Not sure how this card is still hottish, but it’s way cooler than in the air!! (Not an overly practical cooling method, albeit very quiet)
Can you put a 100 foot water hose in a mini fridge pumping the coolant through the fridge? I seen that for a fish tank cooler......
Yes agreed should work well, run through a freezer
I wonder if the fllow of liquid will washout the thermal paste, and what about removing the heat sinks to let the liquid in direct contact with yhr dies, im having taughts here, no expert but good work buddy
I’ve since learned that yeah, you want to swap out the paste with thermal epoxy if you’re going to go this route. But I had I running for about a month and it still had not eaten away the paste I had in there.
You do NOT want to remove the heat sinks, though. You need the additional surface area to collect enough heat, evidently.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE when you add heat sink you add resistznce to thermal transfer it is already immerged, but I may be wrong 😉
A curious person wants to know where you sourced the dielectric fluid!
I put a link in the description engineeredfluids.store/collections/electrocool/products/ec-100
awesome! now i need to get some of dielectric hhaha
...the immersion without fan could save ~20% kwh..but than there is radiator & pumps kwh
u have lot to fix mate. u need to pump the cold liquid in from below via a floor plate... then suck hot oil from surface. you are simply sucking out the coolant you pumped in this way with the hose just laying inside. over a day that ec100 will thermal soak and the temps will rocket eventually. head to engineering fluids and download the pdf how to. look at tank design section regarding flow in tank.
Yep, this build was totally janky! However it’s a week later and it’s still stable at 41 degrees!!
I talked to those guys and am actually going over there in December to tour their facilities and get myself setup for my ASIC miners with a real tub and pump and heat exchanger.
I’ll have a video up about it shortly after!!
Would love to see the l3 immersion and give it a go myself ! Will you use the same equipment as you have here ?
Question, do you think you limit the heat absorption especially on the Memory Chips, by isolating it with the stock 4 W/mK Thermal Pads?
Im curious to see the Temps if you would replace them with Thermalright Thermal Pads 12.8 W/mK like i did on my 3080, even on Air it dropped the Temps for me on the Memory by 20°C from 104°C to 84°C only cause of better Heat transfer rate of those Pads.
I just bought a set of those pads and I’ll put them on to see!
Basically, you should remove the fan. The hottest part is the ram, and it is in the front half, so it’s best to put it upside down.
I also use this liquid in gpu 3090
haha
And the just have the return liquid flow over the ram, perhaps?
I love your content! How much sound does the entire operation create now that you've dunked the card underwater? (inclusive of the radiator). When you say near silent operation how many dbs? And have you found the room to heat up with the liquid coolant? I just fired up my first GPU miner today and it was super loud so I might have to send it back because I have nowhere to put it without it being offensively loud - unless the coolant seriously resolves this issue!
For starters, the room will heat up to the same amount - theres no magic that make less heat overall, but the only thing you can actually hear without having your head right next to it is the fish pump. It is quieter than a typical desktop computer at idle.
When you say you picked up your first GPU miner, what did you get? Is it one card or many cards? Are they 3000 series?
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE it was a rig with motherboard, fans and power supply but without the GPUs which I picked up separately. Sadly the rig sounds like a small hovercraft.
I got a few 3090's but will reconvene and will try to go down the liquid cooling route which sounds like it will be exactly what I need.
Thanks for the extra context on the fish pump!
@@Quickcat21MK in a world where going out to the movies costs like 50 bucks, I can’t spend too much on this for it to be worth it:)
Would like a feedback video several months in to check on later problems that may with the immersion set up
Glad you checked! That tank was made from the wrong plastic and developed a crack. Engineered fluids Bitcool and electrocool have a specific materials compatibility list found on their website. Tanks should be metal or acrylic, not abs plastic
ry to pour from a canister sideways next time for less splashes lol
Just so you know…. It’s fucking mineral oil… you can get it at Walmart in the paint section. Linus tech has done it.
You did it! You’re going to be rich selling mineral oil for $150-$350 a jug!! Excellent sleuthing.
youre so cool!
Oh you stop it.
no, dont.
Did this inscrease your hashrate at all or help make more profit? Edit: Literally asked the question right before you said it lol