The Biggest Russian BULLY at 8.3 - Object 435 - War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- The repalcement to the T-62 has arrived in the La Royale update! Fast, decent fire power, and moderately good protection, what's not to love in the 8.3 BR enviornment?
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00:00 - Highlight
00:27 - What is the 435?
05:23 - 8.3 Bully Begins!
25:21 - Post nuke conclusion
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The Type 16P is from 2013 and can meet the Maus from 1945. Almost 70 years of tank development in between them and they can face eachother its absoloutely crazy.
yes same is with PT-76 its from 1950s end its in 5.3BR in game ( but etlest hi has HEATFS (end china variant is 5.0BR))
it is criminally under tiered, should be around 9.7 to 10.3
it's literally the reason they removed Maus
@@thekangster0_032 9.7 is too high, 9.3 for the TT one and 9.0 for the FPS.
It's why wot is more balanced, despite all the fake tanks and premium rounds, the hit points allow you to "tank" more mistakes, take more chances.
Not to mention the game decided to stuck to ww2- early cold war without sabots and missiles with fake or paper tanks.
War thunder should add a rank system based on eras, make it 2-3 years for tiers 1&2 and make it 10 years for everything else, (1945 to 1955 tank designs for example)(a bt-5 is just 5 years apart from a panther, but a is-3 from 1945 can still fight a 1955 tank)
The type 16 is f**ked is the best way to put it
It gets worse than what you were facing...I was playing with my budy at 7.7 (we haven't played down here in years since we hit top tier)
And we realised how much of a cesspool these lower tiers have become with the introduction with these fast mobile light wheelie boi tanks. Centaro, PTL, Type 16 etc.
These are all roughly 8.7 and will always usually get down tiered just due to the saturated player base at 8.7 from premiums compared to 7.7.
Which means....we were sitting in early cold war tanks (t54, df105) fighting light tanks that can hit 80kmh, with thermals, two plane stabiliser and laser range finger...
I really wish they'd give the T-62 some love, if they updated it to the 1972 model it would gain a stronger turret and a roof mounted DShk, and maybe buff its reload a little
they would probably make it a new tank and not change the current one
Wish they’d do something for the T-10M too.
Is that a separate upgrade from the T62M-1 in game?
@@MaplePanda04 the M-1 is a 1980's upgrade package, I'm just suggesting updating the model to an early 70's upgrade that redesigned the turret and added an AA machine gun
that would be quite logical, since the version of t55a we have in game is either 1970 or 1972 production model. Getting tank literally older then the curent one isnt as logical
With the ATGM nerf, I've had some issues where I've been on level ground and the ATGM will launch, and then hit the ground. So I probably have to get used to launching it slightly up. But still, the tracking on them is a little rough too.
Heya, Justin! Cool video! Before Object 435 was Object 432 (which was an actuall predassesor to the T-64,on which basis T-64 was actually build of and Object 430 which was predassessor to the T-62 as far as I remember. Both with 100-mm guns)
You forgot to mention that this thing has stalinium. In my 2 years of playing the t114, this tank is the only one to have made my heat round ricochet off its upper front plate lol.
the type16 is just way too low of a BR, better than the rad and arguably as good if not better than the stryker at a lower br
You complain about it's BR being too low. I complain about the lack of lineup. Big 3 nation can just spam multiple vehicles and CAS
@@hubris6567sounds like a skill issue if u can’t get a easy 9 kills with it😂
@@hubris6567 because the lack of lineup affects one nation, it being blatantly op affects 9
@@hubris6567between 8.0 and 10.3 US doesn't get a single competitive lineup(excluding premiums). Closest thing is 9.3 with 4 non meta garbage MBTs no light tank and powercrept AA.
3:26 actually this is how I sit while playing war thunder :D
I know this isn't the video for it but since these economy changes the grind has felt much better. I played for a few hours yesterday and started with 100k SL and ended on 640K (I did have a 10% booster for 20 games) before buying the ZSU 37-2 which cost ~100K RP at that point.
Got this thing and played it a bit. Someone asked if it was good I said it was pretty good so far and basically a T62 improved with a different armor layout. Solid tank tbh
Finally someone played the 435, I love the thing and I am pretty sure this is the first video about it.
Something a lot of people get wrong is that this isn’t quite a T-64 prototype, nor is it a T-62 prototype as the Dev blog suggests. It was a test bed for the gun that would eventually be mounted on the T-62. The suspension system appears to be an early version of what would eventually be put on the T-64
@@thatcarguydom266
It's been six months, but I'm gonna answer this.
It's not quite as you say.
The 435 was a significant improvement of the characteristics of the Object 430, which was an early prototype of the T-64.
Object 432 (T-64) was already developed on the basis of 435.
Once it happen to me the very same shot of the highlight, currently is my longest kill on move (2500m with my Merky Mk2D, against a poor Leopard 2).
I can't wait to grind out the bigger T-62, i enjoyed a lot both T-62 and T-62M even before the round's models change, they were fine for 8.3-8.7, so i might think the same for this one😄
love your videos!
protection seems very impressive on that, it really is a super t-62
yeah light tanks have always been enjoying traveling back in time, and heavy tanks have always been going forward in time. even the bmp 2 is 80s, and its at the same tier as the t10m from 1957, or the mig 15 from 1948.
ive always been a fan of the balance by year idea, and i mean even if you took an example like making the btr 80 fight the t80u, it can still pen sides at that br. (obviously i dont think downtiered pure gun ifvs need to be completely brought to their year, after all the r3 t20 isnt gonna do great at 10.0, but still)
though youd need to give it the same balancing factor used in real life, and make them incredibly cheap compared to tanks.
7.3-7.7 is just in a horrible spot right now. These 8.3s used to get sucked into the 9.0 premium spam but that time has passed.
I play a lot of 7.3 germany i dont get mutch full uptiers to 8.3, but when i do i just use the wiesel and be a absolut rat
lmao. im at 7.7 france having a nice time, only because it seems like most of the russia/china players at 8.3 are awful players. it's a 50/50 whether you'll stomp or they'll stomp, with hardly any inbetween...
@@shronkler1994 those nations from 8.0 to 10.0 are absolutely horrendous to play with.
The only con in my opinion is the reload on this tank, otherwise it's simply amazing, love its resemblance to the T-64A!
"The Presidents Play _____" is a secret addiction of mine. F'ing hilarious. I don't blame you.
its a beast , close combat king . ambush master. rough annihilator
3:15 most ergonomic Soviet tank:
I still don't understand how people say Russians are OP at top tier, but Germany and Sweden with their BS light vehicles and tanks that combine mobility and armor aren't.
Ka-50 without thermals is somehow OP, Tiger heli with self guiding missiles aren't.
People are mad.
Its because of the amount of tanks russia has at top tier along with thier absolutely broken damage models, also they have the best spaa in the entire game and the ka50 is a premium that anyone can get immediately and its ability to spam missiles is cancerous as fuck, and its survivability is pretty bullshit to
@@sharkk127 That's the thing, I'm US main who has Ka-50 and at the top tier BRs there are just better helis with thermals. Without thermals you can't find targets half the time because of bad visibility (fog, clouds, darkness). Ka-50 can fly without tail irl, but in the game the moment you lose you the tail it's automatic J-out. Missiles spam isn't a thing, because helis with Hellfires have more missiles and can launch any amount at any time at greater angles. Now after the Vikhr nerf they Ka-50s can only launch a few at a time and then have to wait until they land before launching next ones, and the angle of launch is very small.
As for tanks: T-72s can't drive back, like 4kmh reverse speed vs 36khp on Abrams. Add to it terrible thermals or complete lack of them (T-80UM2). Gun handling is terrible, the gun traverse/elevation is sluggish which makes snap-shooting upclose very hard. Armor is good, sure, better than on Abrams, but not better than Leo2s. Also Leo2s have better mobility, better guns, better thermals than T-80s as well. There are more Leo2s in the German tech tree than 11.0+ tanks in the USSR tree. Same for US with their endless Abrams spam.
Sometimes you hit Russian tanks' shells and they don't explode, but that's literally a problem on all tanks, and has to do with the fact that people take less shells into battle but the shell-cam shows all shells. So when it shows a shell going black but not exploding, there's actually no shell there at all. So it's a game bug, not a tank being OP or something.
@@harryshuman9637 Those missiles are unreliable af --- same with the spikes/Qn506 missile. You need a full view of their tank to even shoot the missile. The PARS missile can be defeated by going near a dead burning tank which it will go to 90% of the time. Also even a simple bush will stop the lock on the missile. The ka50/52/28 variants have proxy missiles and easier to use missiles were you can aim. It makes them automatically better than the FnF unreliable mess that is those missiles.
@@harryshuman9637 I will say the hellfires are pretty good now even after the missile changes, but I'd still take a Vikhr any day for its versatility. Btw the whole BR system doesn't matter as T-80U/Uk and T-72B3 can be considered 11.7 vehicles with how they perform. Also Sweden has way better Leopard 2s than the Germans considering they have an armored hull and a Leo 2a6 themselves.
I agree on the whole explosion thing as it has a chance to blow up depending on HP damage and its made more apparent that ALL FUEL TANKS without a plate behind it will mitigate spalling a lot. Even shooting some Arietes have a chance to cause a "blow out panel" explosion or just blacking out ammo which makes absolutely 0 sense. Same thing with fuel tanks being eaten on tanks like the sides Leopards, Leclercs front and many other vehicles with fuel tanks.
Gotten a lot of nukes and never dropped one before. Usually if you are doing well enough to get one, the enemy team has already started to quit early.
T'a loupé la thermique HD en plus ! La seule HD parmi tous les autres jets qui ont une 1ère gen. Ca mérite une autre vidéo
"Found" your channel as was looking why the MBT-70 was nerfed and then i saw this video. i got the T-10M a while ago and love it so much i got a Talisman on it within a few days of buying it. :D Looks like this might be another one to get but need to get better AA for my 8.3 lineup as the ZSU-57 is fun but when facing jets it's not very fun. also. not sure if you notice but any as to why the US/Japan Campaign packs are being removed? I bought the US Campaign pack years ago but gaijin reset it once they replaced the old P-38 that came with it in the new one. makes me sad to see it go and made up my mind to now buy them both.
Bruh i have a complete 8.3 russia lineup and the t10m is fucking amazing, it honestly feels like an mbt at times
@@sharkk127 T-10M is my 1st 8.3 for Russia and i wasn't sure if it would do well. but after a few games in it and that wonderful APHE round it gets. It's disgusting. and i love it.
Zsu 37-2 is absolute hot trash just skip it if you have enough sl
Ahh, yes, the classic "The driver can't breathe and the gunner has to take a piss" crew positioning. A classic.
Justin, the T-10 is actually playable
Especially at 8.3 with the continues downtier.
Give it another chance, revive the old era🤝
Yea, Type 16 FPS has a weird BR. Its better than the M1128 Wolfpack in every way, yet is 1 whole BR lower?
Doesn't the M1128 have manless turret? That's far better and I'd take that over the typ16
@@petrkdn8224 quite unresponsive compared to other wheelie boi, i think it's just type 16 fps (and to certain degree, roikat mttd and wma) is too low in br
@rxzxqx6982 speed isn't everything though
@@rxzxqx6982 doesn't the type 16fps have 100kmh max speed? Both rooikats have 120, so they are faster . I have both rooikats and outspeed every other tank on road
@@petrkdn8224 speed will be everything if your enemies is early coldwar era tanks that some of them not have laser rangefinder, let alone high quality thermal, they can't see from where they get shot
The, “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” -Wayne Gretzky. Not trying to be that guy that corrects everyone about stuff, I play hockey so I saw a quote and kinda laughed at it.
We got Justin the human FCS in the Intro there
Nice video
I really like this vehicle it’s good fun to play, the only issues I’ve seen driving it, is it’s super unresponsive at low speed, turning and such is meh, sluggish af buts it’s okay, and slow reload, otherwise this thing is great!
JustinPlays: "Biggest Russian Bully at 8.3"
T-55-AM-1: "Am I a joke to you?"
Justin, the T-55AM-1's composite doesn't do too much to save it... and the HEAT is ignored because almost everyone who uses it play with the missile rather than the APCBC and APFSDS
The APFSDS is very potent, but the missile suffers from classic HEAT and ATGM problems, too slow, hard to control, poor post pen damage.
That said 3BM25 is very strong
0:33 this comment aged like vinegar left in the sun.
The now 8.7 BR though, that still holds. To me it's peak USSR (but not broken OP with insane stats either)
The T55AM is SOOO undertiered
So in conclusion it's a T-62 that you won't have to research the T55AMD-1 for first
Object 292(152mm T-80B), Object 640 (Black eagle), T-80UM 1 "Bars', T-90M, T90S.
I bring this thing to 10.0 with my turmst and it still makes them burn. Of course I am a 1 shot so holding flanks is important but most people playing around 10,0 are newbs in premium vehicles soo it's not hard to do well in at 10.0
According to Russian wiki, 435 has a 5TD opposed-piston 2-stroke engine producing 600hp, not a regular v12 producing 580hp.
Whenever i see a 435, get one shot and bye, a t62/t64 takes more hit than this tank yet in the same BR as T-62
imo 8.3 Britain is pretty comparable to 8.3 Russia but, 9.0 Britain is just built different.
Obj 435 is the tank, 345 on the turret was that accident or purpose?
That quote is from wayne gretzki.
After having a look through the summer sales i might be a slight hypocrite and buy the des moines with your link, i hate myself but navals like the only thing where i dont feel like punching sonething withon a single game
This is at a lower br then the chieftain mk5 btw
This tank is like an upgraded t62 but taller
False the object 435 is shorter and smaller than the t62
@@-Oriana1113-short and smaller doesn’t take away the fact it might be a better t62
Upload a video on the Magach 6B Gal
As for the video's conclusion, I think Gaijin should add South Korea the way they added Israel as well as add Poland.
4x poland craft added in game
Only shitty thing about USSR at 8.3 is the lack of CAS options. Literally not a single viable CAS option at that tier.
Works for me, I never use CAS anyway, as if using 8.3 Russia in the first place wasn’t scummy enough 😂
su9 or su11 is very good for cas role, or start working on helicopters
High key BMP 2 is the real Russian bully at 8.3
It's a really strong tank, but I hesitate to call it overpowered because basically anything with a stabilizer and darts kicks ass at this BR range.
16:30 and the M901 got nerfed too.
Bad Summer sale
why replace t-62? really is that true? i have not played for 3 months
"oh shit" as 2 1,000lb bombs land infront with a .5 second fuse
just long enough to make you realize your fucked
You're just lucky, you get easy enemies. Playing 9.3-9.7 on this thing is straight up hell.
the trick is to uptier it into premiumville with turmst then u face low level noobs around 10.0 and it easy pickings.
What’s your opinion no the summer sale, I think it pretty bad.
It's alright.. Not terrible, not great. No high tier premiums which is nice I think
I was thinking of getting the french heavy (souma or something) but it’s 7.3 so…
@@ImminentFallout that is my fear.
@@urittiru3601 Still an awesome tank, but as said before your going to meet the T-55AM1. Though from me playing French last patch at 7.3, I only saw it probably 4/10 games which is still high.
when I used the 435 I thought it was good but I felt it didn't really excel at anything it's gun is solid 3bm4 is really good but at I think past 1300 or 1500m if you're fighting a heavy tank you just aren't doing anything (at least in my experience) the rangefinder is great but when you fight wheeled vehicles with better apfsds thermals and laser rangefinders it don't really matter the best thing about it is probably the super low profile you can work with the turret armor if hull down it's not terrible but the hull is wonky I think it's fine at 8.3 if it's a choice between uptiering the 435 or the T-55AM-1 I'd choose the 55 any day of the year
historical balancing is just BS. it does not matter from when the tank is from, if it has the same capabilities as a tank from 60 years eariler, it is balanced.
just saying, the french H-39 was used by Israel, so with historical balancing, it should see cold war tanks, while it is useless against interwar period tanks
Yeah, historical is BS. If it were to be implemented, the M60 AOS could face T-80B and the Americans couldn't have any other better tank to face it. And Germans would have had Leopard A1A1 at best. Good luck with punching through T-80B lol
You should do twitch highlight videos like ManyMiles does
Maybe ill use your 3% discount
Justin always brings the best of the best !! keep it up and thx for the 3% off
20:36 - I can't pronounce
20:40 - pronounces
I would rather wait 2 min in que to play the same BR then always being up tier every single match.
13:47 😂
16:25 all ATGM are completely useless now
Huh? Aim better lol
bro does you get so much SL ??????
Nearly 9 years of WT and im at that much, when many are nearing a billion o.o
nah, missiles are fine
This Object fells pretty bad in terms of stats.
Food
The one and only ever Russian made tank is t 14 armata.there is no Russian bias in warthunder since there is no Armata in warthunder.
Eiii, you died at enemy spawn point just now at ruin city map😂my brother was your allied- you helped him repairing
They are always nerfing German vehicles but 99.99% never nerf Soviet vehicles
Hey at least your not france with a bunch of 8.3 stuff with zero Stab
Completely unnecessary add to the tech three and not even folded so you have to smash your balls through the grind it if you want to progress down
First of all 3BM4 is 50 times better than 3BM25 and thats all why i think this is much better than t55am1 and reload is the same i dont know how but it is
I agree, 3BM25 post pen is a joke.
Another tech tree filler tank
8.3-8.7 is the worst tier in soviet tt imo, due to premiums, also wheeled vehicles and light vehicles of Germany like tams, radkampfwagens, class 3ps, then rooikats more or less, centauros, overpowered type 16. There is no point to say that the soviet 8.3 is better makes no sense, personally as a German light tank player in that tier, soviets are a joke.
Still think the T-55 Premium thing is the biggest bully 😅 It shouldnt be 8.3
Its 8.7 now but it still packs a punch
I mean, I kind of understand why weeb can get a chat ban. But only if you take the context of the word from about a decade or so ago. But it is quite funny that it's still considered a slur type word by Gaijin.
And still people wearing the z even today… they should be banned at this point
dibs on second comment (nobody claimed it)
I have to thank those who helped me decide which top tier plane to go i
decided to go for China. (justin are chinas tanks lick WZ1001 END 99 GOOD END worth graiding )
+10 social credit
Hallooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
8.3 russia is good?!
T10 sucks, useless armor +no apfsds + slow and slow reload
T55 an ok tank
Shelka (8.0) is absolutely garbage, short range +weird radar tracking system
BMP 2 is above average
While alot of tanks in this BR have thermals and LRF and fast reload times.... You dont but you are OP because another nation main said so and it happens that he is a UA-camr
First🥳
ayyyy first
First maybe?
idk why brs exist. just do it by year. No room for debate. when russian tanks in the cold war 50s-80s are blaintantly better. yes. guess what THEY WERE. get over it. thats life. they made better fucking tanks. fucking t64s against m48s. t72s against m60s. grow up. thats how it was
this should be moved to 7.3 or 7.7 since it doesnt have composite or ERA or anything like it protecting against heat
t 62?
Great idea! Should also move the KPZ/MBT-70 down to 8.3 and Leopard 1 to 6.3 while we're at it!
@@curtsauce3947 than gajin should remove all the 92358293 nerfs put on russian tanks in 7.3 and 7.7 like ffs anything can pen a russian tank there plus constant uptier to 8.3 game makes no sense to play
i mean lets be real a nation with most advanced tanks since ww2 and they nerf every aspect of every tank in 7.3-7.7 gajin is being dumb
@@flareamv5503ur actually dumb like wow
Hey Justin, please don't use camos with invasion stripes, it's very disrespectful towards democratic values
No.
It's a video game. Go be soft elsewhere.
@@tm1182he’s trolling bro. Just ignore him.
What? That doesn't make sense, on the contrary, it supports democratic values as he can choose what he wants on the tank.
Do you also suggest people not to play the Abrams because it was used in Iraq where millions of civilian houses were bombed illegally? Just because Russians doing js wrong doesn't excuse the other side.
@@JustinPlaysTV lol
Using “camo desig” witch soviet have in 1968 invasion to czechoslovakia is just a not a cool dude.. not cool at all. Special in theese days.! You can directly use Z on side…
youre acting like he knows
It's a video game, and historical. It in no way endorses anything. If historical symbols are too much for you then maybe watch content about a different fictional game.
I'm czech and I don't care. It's historical. That's why I play the fucking game. Go play WoT if you hate history and want to butcher it.
Edit: coincidentally, I also watched a new movie about 1968 (Man who stood on the way) , released May , which is a month ago. It was about the events of 1968 and the Soviet+soviet allies invasion of Czechoslovakia. It portrayed the events well, and shown the horror of soviets (torture, killing civilians and censorship) yet I have no problem with this in game. Because it's history. It must be preserved
Oh my goodness, get over yourself. Not everything is about your precious feelings. It’s a game.
If the t55m1 and t62 is 8.3 this should be at 8.0 max with the t55a
wow it’s so fair that I have to fight this bs in my e100