@@RudieObias “This ball is mine! Fk off!” is what he could have said if he didn’t almost lose consciousness after failing to remember what he bought at the market
My mother and my grandmother are both narcissists (not malignant ones like Logan, more on the vulnerable/neglectful corner of the spectrum), each of them cruel, manipulative and love withholding to their own children and super sweet to their grandkids. I can't explain it. Just sometimes it feels like it is part of their gaslighting. "Can't have been such a bad parent if your kids enjoy spending time with me so much, huh? Still think I was the difficult one?" This reminds me very strongly of that. I don't trust Logan's affection one bit. Everything is transactional and power related with him.
I think Kendall would have stopped his son from eating poisoned food and Logan knows it, I’m not defending him, it’s just sick mind games as usual in Roy family
That dinner scene was great: I understood (Maybe i wanted to believe that heh) Logan knew the food wasnt poisoned, he just wanted to play with Ken mind. It was a psicological pressure game, a really sick one.We will never know tho, and it doesnt matter, the core thing they wanted to show us was that dynamic Logan-Ken, i think. This is one of so many things i love about 'Succession'.
The thing is, logan reads "'I want to sleep forever,' and so she did," and where a moment before this he was reading the more childish part of the story pretty comfortingly, it's here when he stops to insult the kid and does not continue reading. having known people who do stuff like that, i would guess that logan got immediately uncomfortable with the emotions of the story, and decided to deride them as childish so he wouldn't have to continue feeling them. a moment later, he says "your dad was ok, you know. he was okay," again dismissing both the kids feelings and any that he himself may have had about learning his son nearly died. in this short scene you see the way he not only treats his own emotions but those of the people around him. such a good character moment.
It's how I handle my kids. I address emotions to see if the gravity of the emotional break. I don't coddle my children. I show them love and affection as man through actions and time spent together. Emotions should be acknowledged but as a boy it's a slippery slope to handle it and not become dependent to find solace in others instead of being able to cope on our own. It's survival 101. The lions and tigers and bears don't care how you feel and to be fair a lot of people don't either.
I think of Logan's encounter with Iverson at that season 1 Thanksgiving episode, Iverson didn't want to join because, apparently, he wasn't ready to adjust to having a holiday with divorced parents. Then Logan rushed in and made him join. Here, it still looks like Iverson is trying to adjust but still finds comfort in things he liked being little which happens to be a habit Kendall has.
I think everyone is glossing over the fact that the book that he is reading is about the death of a cat and he calls it "young." Both the mental state of the kid and logan is put on full display here. A kid who is interested in a subject matter that is too gloomy for his age and a vicious man who finds it trivial. Every. Single. Dialogue. In. This. Show. Is. Gold.
@@nicanornunez9787 I mean on second thought the scene can also be interpreted as him disassociating himself from the subject matter as it hits home hard with his son nearly dying and all. Hurt, he resorts to insults as a defence mechanism to act as if he is beyond all that. I'm on the camp that believes that he actually loves his children, its just that the definition of love for him is to do any means necessary to assure that the kids find the knife in the mud. Remember, life for him is a fight in a mud for a knife. He is just an extremely anti-social person and borderline a psychopath (not to forget: also excessively narcissistic). Love can't be defined in terms of compassion and selflessness for him, its just not possible.
@@01Elvi He is a ten to twelve year old kid on spectrum; it is heavily implied. The book was probably bought for him to process the death of his rabbit, which came out again once his father nearly died. Logan's remarks are entirely unfair and negligent.
Are billionaires not true in real life? What is that supposed to mean? They are still humans with human interactions, the whole show is literally about that
He wasn't testing Kendall... He knew it wouldn't be poison what do you think this is lmao... He did that just to insult him (Kendall) not test the food for poison..
@@TheGameOverture lol of course not😂 obviously Ken would never allow the kid to taste poisonous food. Obviously. Asking the kid about being all right was meant for Ken to hear it and be affected, not meant to actually get the information 🤦♂️
I know people are probably putting this down to Logan's personality towards something as trivial as reading a book...but it is really odd to be reading a teenager a picture book
I really don't think I'd blink twice at a young teenager (even a non-autistic one) wanting to hear a childhood story in the wake of their father's suicide attempt. It might be eyebrow raising under normal circumstances, but it makes sense in a situation like this
@@hazleweatherfield968 Even so most teenagers would do it privately. Most teenagers would have to be extremely close to someone to be comfortable showing that much vulnerability. Logan and Iverson are definitely not close.
Iverson is autistic. Logan says "your father was okay, you know" he means Ken was not reading picture books as a teenager, he was like other kids of his age.
Shee was so tired that she wanted to sleep forever and so she did... How is no one commenting on the extremely depressing and questionable message of this children's book like wtf
@@ezioauditore6038 nahhh i think he slept with the daughter of an Indian board member. the one who was battling cancer i think. thats what i assumed anyway.
@@footballpredictions-g2yit can happen. Genes aren’t always like 2 ink toners mixing together, kids can end up having a skin tone that’s not in between their parents as long as it’s in the gene pool. It would have to have come from Rava’s side.
The was the only sane and functioning person - viewers people’s opinions of him show how feeble and weak society has become, looking for rationalisation of their own vixtomhood
This scene seemed inconsequential and somewhat the first time I saw the episode, but after watching the episode a couple times i think I understand it. The previous episode ends with Kendall’s life in danger, and all week leading up to this finale the excitement at the possibility of a major character dying dominated the discourse surrounding the show. Then they open this episode with Logan reading about a character that dies and then he confronts Iverson on being too old for this stuff. I think Iverson represents the audience and logan the writers. I’m so happy this scene got posted individually
You have to understand the way Logan sees it. All his extended fam are rich. That’s his love to them. I least that’s how I think he rationalizes his perpetual crankiness.
There's never a single scene of Logan interacting with Sophie outside of her saying this one line to him which fits with Logan's character since she's a adopted minority, however Logan and Iverson share the most onscreen time of the major characters between an adult and a child yet you want me to believe Iverson was a sperm donor kid this whole time gtfoh lol
@ro2352sol-lb8sk you have to jump through a shit ton hoops to even get there and not a single thing shown on screen supports any of that, it was just poor writing. This is one of the greatest shows ever written, they did not need to add that random thing to find a insult to get Kendall to react to Roman like that.
all of you saying "this is proof logan loves his family" r u okay? You should read bell hooks if you seriously think love and power can coexist. Also, I doubt you are understanding this show at all LMAO. He feels a bit bad about his son's attempted suicide, as any fucking person would do, that does not translate to love
I think it’s complicated. Logan does love his family, at some level. But he is such a damaged and narcissistic person he only knows how to express connection through dominance and power games. He sees weakness and he goes at it; he sees strength and sees how far he has to go to crush it; he sees killer instinct as both a virtue in his kids but also a challenge to be overcome. He sees his kids as competition with himself; his constant mind for ‘the game’ infects all his relationships and supersedes whatever affections he feels for them. It’s implied Logan also had a number of negative examples growing up, from his abusive uncle to his cold/unaffectionate brother (who seem to have once been closer, though neither of them will openly admit it); the death of his sister and mother; absent father-he was also the product of a warped family dynamic, which created the level of ruthlessness needed to ascend the world of business but didn’t make him equipped to have a healthy family or even a healthy self. Couple that with his unscrupulous morals and his ‘old school’ way of thinking on many things, and you’ve got a recipe for some really backwards family dynamics.
@@YungM.D. This, to me the entire point of the Roy family is they are all broken, ESPECIALLY Logan. I mean his sisters death and fathers abuse, his back covered in scars to the point where he never even showed it around his own children and his kids think he cant swim.
The irony of saying other people misunderstand the show lmao. Logan DOES love his children, yet still treats them the way he does because he has no understanding of how to express it. It's what makes all of them such fascinating characters, they're not monsters incapable of love, they're deeply broken people. To interpret his character any other way is a fundamental divergence to fully understanding the core themes of the show. And you have the balls to chastise other people when you're so far off track 😂
Haven’t seen all of succession but I know Brian cox’s character is kinda a monster. I’m not gonna lie though that’s kinda a concerning moment that I commend Logan Roy from recognizing. That kid looks old enough to be catching him getting himself in trouble with money or girls or drugs. Especially being a roy. That type of arrested development happens usually after a little more maturity than that. The next closest character in succession with arrested development starting in immature age groups is Connor. Connor definitely got out of the daddy reading me a children’s story phase before he stopped developing though. If I was in logan Roy’s shoes right there I’d be concerned.
A lot of grandparents will relate to this with the latest over the top sensitive kids and parenting styles. One of my mid teens nephews still has a security blanket whereas all of my plush toys were confiscated and never returned from me not long after my 10th Birthday because I was considered too old for them, that was 50 years ago and how things have changed.
I mean, this kid's straight up autistic, plus his dad JUST tried to kill himself. It's clear he doesn't normally like that book, just uses it to process death or near death in this case.
Nah, my brothers and I are in our 40’s, our parents never forced us to stop playing with toys and sort of encouraged it into our teens. They parentified my oldest brother and I, loaded us with plenty of adult responsibilities but tried to also keep us from “growing up” and were very strict on curfews and such. My mom and her siblings are in their 70s & 80s, some of them were allowed what you consider “over the top sensitive” and some weren’t. Don’t think it’s anything that new.
@@irinafms this is a bizzare take. A large portion of upper class whites have adopted non-white adopted children and Iverson is supposed to be mixed (Kendall’s ex-wife is of Indian descent). If this seems unrealistic to you the actual Murdoch family (who the Roy’s are based on) have two half-Chinese heirs from Rupert Murdoch’s third marriage and one half-Black heir from his eldest daughters first marriage.
@@zandaroos553 Regardless, the kid has a point. These days, there are diversity quotas just to even compete for the Oscars / Emmy or whatever. Same thing for financing show ideas, banks, VCs and networks require the cast to have homosexuals, blacks or handicapped people in leading roles. They take that VERY seriously.
@@alainportant6412 can you send any formal statements on these quotas or financing requirements? My aunt is an exec at the Russo Bros studio and what I’ve heard from her end (as well as from my personal experience working in banking and consulting) is that most of the diversity hiring and considerations are superficial and mainly just place actors/workers in to lower rung roles that would have already been hired for but companies can LARP as inclusive without affecting their extremely nepotistic practices for top level jobs.
@@alexanderdavidson7837 Yes, I've seen it in my own family as well. I don't like seeing it though, but I think that it's fairly common and not strange. Grandchildren often get on better with their grandparents as well.
Yup. My grandfather was very sweet to his grandkids while his kids said he was rough with them. I noticed that my uncles are very sweet and docile with their grandkids too, even though they were assholes to their kids.
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Im surprised Logan didn’t slap him with a “are you queer?”
Lol
For liking a kids book? As a kid?
@@dennile_7355 For having a very gay disposition
Lmao
He would straight up drop the f word
The reveal that Logan’s reading a picture book to a whole-ass teenager gave me whiplash
He seems like such a caring person, look how he reads to his grandson and comforts him after his father’s attempted suicide!
Logan also punched him in the face in season one 🤣
@@RudieObias “This ball is mine! Fk off!” is what he could have said if he didn’t almost lose consciousness after failing to remember what he bought at the market
This would be a day or two after Logan used him to taste his food when Kendall had some mozzarella prepared for Logan. 😶
My mother and my grandmother are both narcissists (not malignant ones like Logan, more on the vulnerable/neglectful corner of the spectrum), each of them cruel, manipulative and love withholding to their own children and super sweet to their grandkids. I can't explain it. Just sometimes it feels like it is part of their gaslighting. "Can't have been such a bad parent if your kids enjoy spending time with me so much, huh? Still think I was the difficult one?"
This reminds me very strongly of that. I don't trust Logan's affection one bit. Everything is transactional and power related with him.
@@memento81 woah that's a lot!
Nicest thing logan’s ever said about his offspring.
They’re not offspring. Both grandchildren are buy ins.
yeah about that…
Not his offspring
@@romrich Not biologically
he didn't even consider them a part of the family. Crazy.
Half-Rava, half filing-cabinet guy 😅
Haha he may be a rando but he proved he was a killer in the thanksgiving episode.
The most devastating insult of the show
I’ve always thought even for a tv show that his kids didn’t look like him or resemble him in any way.
@@mfundi Sophie is adopted. Iverson we didn't know till the finale.
@@centurio34 pretty messed up to mock someone for infertility and say a child conceived from a sperm donor is "not real".
Arguably the nicest he ever was to anyone and he still cocked it up
what a sweet moment! I bet that old man would never feed possibly poisoned food to the boy
funny thing is, he already did prior to this scene. And now he is 'concerned' about him
@@jayshah4203 bro…
I think Kendall would have stopped his son from eating poisoned food and Logan knows it, I’m not defending him, it’s just sick mind games as usual in Roy family
That dinner scene was great: I understood (Maybe i wanted to believe that heh) Logan knew the food wasnt poisoned, he just wanted to play with Ken mind. It was a psicological pressure game, a really sick one.We will never know tho, and it doesnt matter, the core thing they wanted to show us was that dynamic Logan-Ken, i think. This is one of so many things i love about 'Succession'.
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Idk but logan’s reaction gets me every time😂😂
“You alright son?”
Priceless
The zoom in kills me
One of Logan's rare moments when he genuinely concerned about a family member's well-being.
Logan's stupid. He cant even remember his grandson's called Iverson, not Allrightson
The thing is, logan reads "'I want to sleep forever,' and so she did," and where a moment before this he was reading the more childish part of the story pretty comfortingly, it's here when he stops to insult the kid and does not continue reading. having known people who do stuff like that, i would guess that logan got immediately uncomfortable with the emotions of the story, and decided to deride them as childish so he wouldn't have to continue feeling them.
a moment later, he says "your dad was ok, you know. he was okay," again dismissing both the kids feelings and any that he himself may have had about learning his son nearly died. in this short scene you see the way he not only treats his own emotions but those of the people around him. such a good character moment.
100% That's exactly how I read this moment. Great subtle writing
"Can you get me a book, something with some action?" Then immediately takes a call. You can see what Connors' childhood was like in one simple scene.
There was always the thing about the unmentioned dead sibling Rose that died young
You are why no one should be allowed to take only one psychology course.
It's how I handle my kids. I address emotions to see if the gravity of the emotional break. I don't coddle my children. I show them love and affection as man through actions and time spent together. Emotions should be acknowledged but as a boy it's a slippery slope to handle it and not become dependent to find solace in others instead of being able to cope on our own. It's survival 101. The lions and tigers and bears don't care how you feel and to be fair a lot of people don't either.
Just watch that kid take over the company somehow
Gonna make the staff start reading the same book
Who? Greg? You’re absolutely right!
What is this? Game of Thrones S8?
Not after Logan thought they were randos
Absentee father raised an absentee father
I think of Logan's encounter with Iverson at that season 1 Thanksgiving episode, Iverson didn't want to join because, apparently, he wasn't ready to adjust to having a holiday with divorced parents. Then Logan rushed in and made him join.
Here, it still looks like Iverson is trying to adjust but still finds comfort in things he liked being little which happens to be a habit Kendall has.
I think everyone is glossing over the fact that the book that he is reading is about the death of a cat and he calls it "young." Both the mental state of the kid and logan is put on full display here. A kid who is interested in a subject matter that is too gloomy for his age and a vicious man who finds it trivial. Every. Single. Dialogue. In. This. Show. Is. Gold.
Yeah I can't believe some people think he loves his family, I think that this scene just shows it.
@@nicanornunez9787 I mean on second thought the scene can also be interpreted as him disassociating himself from the subject matter as it hits home hard with his son nearly dying and all. Hurt, he resorts to insults as a defence mechanism to act as if he is beyond all that. I'm on the camp that believes that he actually loves his children, its just that the definition of love for him is to do any means necessary to assure that the kids find the knife in the mud. Remember, life for him is a fight in a mud for a knife. He is just an extremely anti-social person and borderline a psychopath (not to forget: also excessively narcissistic). Love can't be defined in terms of compassion and selflessness for him, its just not possible.
its not that the subject matter is too gloomy, its too childish for his age so its the opposite
@@01Elvi He is a ten to twelve year old kid on spectrum; it is heavily implied. The book was probably bought for him to process the death of his rabbit, which came out again once his father nearly died. Logan's remarks are entirely unfair and negligent.
@@nicanornunez9787 Well the writers themselves have said that Logan does in fact love his family.
Despite the characters being billionaires, this show’s dialogue is more true-to-life than any other show or movie I’ve ever seen.
"despite the characters being billionaires" your mind's in a garbage disposal
watch the wire or six feet under
Are billionaires not true in real life? What is that supposed to mean?
They are still humans with human interactions, the whole show is literally about that
Logan Roy is the type of grandfather who will sacrifice $100 millions dollars to exchange for a better grandson after moment like this occurred
Just one episode earlier this man used this kid to test kendall 💀💀😂😂
He wasn't testing Kendall... He knew it wouldn't be poison what do you think this is lmao... He did that just to insult him (Kendall) not test the food for poison..
@@killermarfidyoh138right, it’s like he said, a big d*ck contest
The “You alright, son?” was actually checking in with the kid to see if the poison had kicked in yet… 👀😂
Welp…when do ever have nature without nature. Or vice versa 🤷🏽♂️
@@TheGameOverture lol of course not😂 obviously Ken would never allow the kid to taste poisonous food. Obviously. Asking the kid about being all right was meant for Ken to hear it and be affected, not meant to actually get the information 🤦♂️
He’s a random. A buy-in or Half Rava, half filing cabinet guy.
This was Logan’s most human moment, he actually seemed like he cared about his grandkids for a minute there.
He actually cared, trust me, Logan (a fictional character) is the exact carbon copy of my father
Guys can hate their kids but they always love the grandchildren.
Then he made him eat cheese he thought was poisoned.
That baseball scene where he shakes the kid's hand for his "magnificent effort" was one of the few moments I actually liked Logan!
The only human and (genuine?) compassionate side I saw of Logan…
"Are you alright, son?" It’s always funny to me when Logan shows concern for someone. It's so out of character and I agree everytime.
I guess we all now know why Logan made that comment while carefully examining Iverson’s face
lmao dude i forget kendal is a father
So did he
same
And Rome was married initially
@@luc1fer12 Er.......when and to whom?
@@luc1fer12No, Roman was just dating a single mom with a kid
Logan actor can do audiobooks
He's Brain Cox.
Of course, he can.
He's the narrator for the Ancient Rome in 40 mins. m.ua-cam.com/video/46ZXl-V4qwY/v-deo.html
he does McDonald's commercials
Brian Cox can do anything.
RIP Logan Roy
Remember when Logan hit Iverson with a food can in season 1?
Yeah. Someone should really compile a list of shitty things Logan got away with
I just ROTFL
Remember when he made them play boar on the floor? 😭😂😂😂😂
That was fun to watch.
@@jtgd He is lika a human Saudi Arabia (tm Roman :D) man, he could get away with anything.
Poor Mog ☹️. And incidentally, Iverson looks and sounds a LOT like Kendall and has the same solemn facial expression, too.
I know people are probably putting this down to Logan's personality towards something as trivial as reading a book...but it is really odd to be reading a teenager a picture book
His grandson is autistic, so he finds comfort in that book. Logan does not want accept that is his grandson is autistic.
I really don't think I'd blink twice at a young teenager (even a non-autistic one) wanting to hear a childhood story in the wake of their father's suicide attempt. It might be eyebrow raising under normal circumstances, but it makes sense in a situation like this
@@hazleweatherfield968 Even so most teenagers would do it privately. Most teenagers would have to be extremely close to someone to be comfortable showing that much vulnerability. Logan and Iverson are definitely not close.
Iverson is autistic. Logan says "your father was okay, you know" he means Ken was not reading picture books as a teenager, he was like other kids of his age.
@@taka-taktakor his father is ok as in he survived almost drowning unscathed I feel like that makes more sense in the context of what happened
Opinion: had Logan known about his bloodline grandchild through Shiv and Tom, he wouldn’t have been on that plane.
Yeah because Logan totally thinks fucking Tom and Shiv would have a worthy kid
He skipped his own sons wedding and was taking toms side in the divorce. Way star was the only baby he actually cared about above all
I cry laughing every time that I watch this
I miss Succession and Logan
Turns out “your dad was ok” wasn’t about Kendall at all - Logan was checking that the sperm donor didn’t have any psychological conditions
Lol
Shee was so tired that she wanted to sleep forever and so she did... How is no one commenting on the extremely depressing and questionable message of this children's book like wtf
Grandson? He’s just some rando
He did not see his own future in the story.
"your dad was ok you know?" hahahah
Logan is a great provider and the rest meant he was never perfect.
arrested development down the family tree
Spoiler:
His "grandson"
I did not rember Logan doing family time beyond corporative life!
It never gets mentioned but Ken's daughter is a adopted, right?....right?
it’s either that or she just looks more like rava 😭
@@aquafinner1505 yeah if Rava was full on Indian lol
@@ezioauditore6038 nahhh i think he slept with the daughter of an Indian board member. the one who was battling cancer i think. thats what i assumed anyway.
Yeah, makes absolutely no sense she would have that skin color if she was Kendall and Rava's daughter.
@@footballpredictions-g2yit can happen. Genes aren’t always like 2 ink toners mixing together, kids can end up having a skin tone that’s not in between their parents as long as it’s in the gene pool. It would have to have come from Rava’s side.
Logan was awful but I can really see him trying in this moment
The was the only sane and functioning person - viewers people’s opinions of him show how feeble and weak society has become, looking for rationalisation of their own vixtomhood
HAHAHA bro wtf, he was an awful parent and an awful person
This scene seemed inconsequential and somewhat the first time I saw the episode, but after watching the episode a couple times i think I understand it.
The previous episode ends with Kendall’s life in danger, and all week leading up to this finale the excitement at the possibility of a major character dying dominated the discourse surrounding the show.
Then they open this episode with Logan reading about a character that dies and then he confronts Iverson on being too old for this stuff. I think Iverson represents the audience and logan the writers.
I’m so happy this scene got posted individually
Do you think it could be that deep?
@@100feetsTall it could be a reach but i see no other reason for the scene to be included / written in that way. and this show knows how to go deep
@@jackdriscoll8387 I guess your hunch isnt baseless, your reply brings the Nero-Sporos story to mind....the show truly has its way with subtexts.
interesting read on the scene!
You have to understand the way Logan sees it. All his extended fam are rich. That’s his love to them. I least that’s how I think he rationalizes his perpetual crankiness.
A very smart man, but with many traumas
what episode was this?
The granddaughter has some moxy
How did a Man like Logan Roy have such failures like Kendall and Roman?
Alright I gotta see this show
You know this is a rich man reading from the way he says "tired" and "forever"
"yep, that ain't his kid"
Do they ever talk about the fact that those kids are adopted? Did I miss that part of it?
Isn't that why he treats them as he does?
They’re buy ins, and one was obviously bought from Bangladesh.
@@rejectionisprotection4448 yes
@@rejectionisprotection4448 answering a question with a question it’s not an answer
@@CarlosMartinez-hs4ig that’s redundant. I also watch the show.
Lol a lot of folks in the comments are overthinking it. He notices his grandson is a bit slow and take exception to it.
There's never a single scene of Logan interacting with Sophie outside of her saying this one line to him which fits with Logan's character since she's a adopted minority, however Logan and Iverson share the most onscreen time of the major characters between an adult and a child yet you want me to believe Iverson was a sperm donor kid this whole time gtfoh lol
Fr it's such a dumb idea
@@ro2352sol-lb8sk
Too much confusion
@ro2352sol-lb8sk you have to jump through a shit ton hoops to even get there and not a single thing shown on screen supports any of that, it was just poor writing. This is one of the greatest shows ever written, they did not need to add that random thing to find a insult to get Kendall to react to Roman like that.
@@King_Mac80
They be doing the most just to metaphorically castrate Kendall even more. It's crazy to me.
The fact they are not even his grandchildren dont ger how logan can even stomach being around them
LoL true. But in a way they are, and I guess he realized that if he doesn't get anymore. This is all he's got as the future of his company...
all of you saying "this is proof logan loves his family" r u okay? You should read bell hooks if you seriously think love and power can coexist. Also, I doubt you are understanding this show at all LMAO. He feels a bit bad about his son's attempted suicide, as any fucking person would do, that does not translate to love
I think it’s complicated. Logan does love his family, at some level. But he is such a damaged and narcissistic person he only knows how to express connection through dominance and power games. He sees weakness and he goes at it; he sees strength and sees how far he has to go to crush it; he sees killer instinct as both a virtue in his kids but also a challenge to be overcome. He sees his kids as competition with himself; his constant mind for ‘the game’ infects all his relationships and supersedes whatever affections he feels for them. It’s implied Logan also had a number of negative examples growing up, from his abusive uncle to his cold/unaffectionate brother (who seem to have once been closer, though neither of them will openly admit it); the death of his sister and mother; absent father-he was also the product of a warped family dynamic, which created the level of ruthlessness needed to ascend the world of business but didn’t make him equipped to have a healthy family or even a healthy self. Couple that with his unscrupulous morals and his ‘old school’ way of thinking on many things, and you’ve got a recipe for some really backwards family dynamics.
@@YungM.D. This, to me the entire point of the Roy family is they are all broken, ESPECIALLY Logan. I mean his sisters death and fathers abuse, his back covered in scars to the point where he never even showed it around his own children and his kids think he cant swim.
Relax bro jesucristo
Exactly. He does not love his children.
The irony of saying other people misunderstand the show lmao. Logan DOES love his children, yet still treats them the way he does because he has no understanding of how to express it. It's what makes all of them such fascinating characters, they're not monsters incapable of love, they're deeply broken people.
To interpret his character any other way is a fundamental divergence to fully understanding the core themes of the show.
And you have the balls to chastise other people when you're so far off track 😂
Aren't both of Logan's grandchildren adopted?
The girl is adopted but the boy is conceived through a donor.
Logan was thinking to himself *_are you queer?_*
Kendall’s kids are adopted right?
The daughter is
@@JokerCat9 Just the daughter? I would’ve thought they both were.
@@Unclejack328 Iverson (Kendall’s son) looks and acts like him. If he weren’t related by blood, then Logan wouldn’t care.
@@JokerCat9 He's actually not Kendall's son.
@@mimah1015 yeah, I made my comment before the finale.
Haven’t seen all of succession but I know Brian cox’s character is kinda a monster. I’m not gonna lie though that’s kinda a concerning moment that I commend Logan Roy from recognizing. That kid looks old enough to be catching him getting himself in trouble with money or girls or drugs. Especially being a roy. That type of arrested development happens usually after a little more maturity than that. The next closest character in succession with arrested development starting in immature age groups is Connor. Connor definitely got out of the daddy reading me a children’s story phase before he stopped developing though. If I was in logan Roy’s shoes right there I’d be concerned.
true
That kid is way too old to be told stories that way
He has autism and has a hard time socializing
He's autistic
he asked for it though haha
@@Gunshot115 probably never had his father read him stories when he was little
No such thing as being too old to be told a story
Pair of randos
Mog DIES?????
is this grandson who were transitioning???
This proves Logan LOVES his family. He just doesn’t really know how to show it
Eh
He does not. This is not love. It's toxic.
By using him to test with poisonous food 😂
He does not omg. He loves them like a property but that's that. Logan literally means Hollow in Scottish, he is simply incapable of that.
Personally, I think Logan really loves his family. It's just that there are many things that he loves much more.
Why do the kids have an asian vibe to them whereas the parents don’t? Is this a billionaire adoption sort of thing and i’ve missed the dialogue
I thought his ex wife was Indian
@@kevincarter2020 no
I saw a comment speculating that Kendall and rava adopted sophie? the daughter?
@@Ronam0451 she has an Indian name and an Indian looking daughter
what's an asian vibe?
You have to admit this boy was very weird
RIP Logan
Autism is highly hereditary... I wouldn't be surprised if Kendall was on the spectrum with the stuttering and all
Well. Maybe not.
Iverson is not Kendall's biological son though... he's Rava's son but not Kendall's.
Why does Ken's daughter looks Indian?
She's adopted
They lost me after season one.
You missed out. S1 was the worst season.
@@Saigeee333 it’s all the same bs
A lot of grandparents will relate to this with the latest over the top sensitive kids and parenting styles. One of my mid teens nephews still has a security blanket whereas all of my plush toys were confiscated and never returned from me not long after my 10th Birthday because I was considered too old for them, that was 50 years ago and how things have changed.
I mean, this kid's straight up autistic, plus his dad JUST tried to kill himself. It's clear he doesn't normally like that book, just uses it to process death or near death in this case.
You really had a hard life, JC
Nah, my brothers and I are in our 40’s, our parents never forced us to stop playing with toys and sort of encouraged it into our teens. They parentified my oldest brother and I, loaded us with plenty of adult responsibilities but tried to also keep us from “growing up” and were very strict on curfews and such. My mom and her siblings are in their 70s & 80s, some of them were allowed what you consider “over the top sensitive” and some weren’t. Don’t think it’s anything that new.
RIP legend. 100 ft tall.
Is the daughters actor some sort of diversity hire or was she adopted? Lol
Great question. I'll ask Kendall.
succession is a pretty "white" show so it was inevitable in today's political climate they felt they needed to add some diversity to fill the quota
@@irinafms this is a bizzare take. A large portion of upper class whites have adopted non-white adopted children and Iverson is supposed to be mixed (Kendall’s ex-wife is of Indian descent). If this seems unrealistic to you the actual Murdoch family (who the Roy’s are based on) have two half-Chinese heirs from Rupert Murdoch’s third marriage and one half-Black heir from his eldest daughters first marriage.
@@zandaroos553 Regardless, the kid has a point.
These days, there are diversity quotas just to even compete for the Oscars / Emmy or whatever.
Same thing for financing show ideas, banks, VCs and networks require the cast to have homosexuals, blacks or handicapped people in leading roles.
They take that VERY seriously.
@@alainportant6412 can you send any formal statements on these quotas or financing requirements? My aunt is an exec at the Russo Bros studio and what I’ve heard from her end (as well as from my personal experience working in banking and consulting) is that most of the diversity hiring and considerations are superficial and mainly just place actors/workers in to lower rung roles that would have already been hired for but companies can LARP as inclusive without affecting their extremely nepotistic practices for top level jobs.
Buy-ins
His grandson was fcked up ,because of the whole family.
Grandparents treat kids different to parents. It’s a strange evolution
What's strange about it?
@@rejectionisprotection4448 parents can be shot to their kids but very caring to their grandchildren. I’ve seen it and experienced it first hand
@@alexanderdavidson7837 Yes, I've seen it in my own family as well. I don't like seeing it though, but I think that it's fairly common and not strange. Grandchildren often get on better with their grandparents as well.
Yup. My grandfather was very sweet to his grandkids while his kids said he was rough with them. I noticed that my uncles are very sweet and docile with their grandkids too, even though they were assholes to their kids.