Rick Rubin Is Basically DJ Khaled
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Rick Rubin Explains His Process on 60 Minutes: “I Have No Technical Ability and I Know Nothing About Music”
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loved when rick just yelled "RUUUUBIN" at the start of every song he ever had a part of.
The opening scream on Slayer's Angel of Death was just Rick yelling his name.
😂😂😂 I choked on this comment. Priceless.
AHAHAHA
This one gave me a laugh so thanks:p
@@glitchedoom sounds like he just stubbed his toe or something lmfao
I think he's like a musical therapist. he is there to bring music out of people that was already in there
One thousand percent
Khalid does that too
Great comment. He's a music nerd with an ear for mainstream bops
@@TheDonkey666 the singer? nah
I saw a documentary like thing awhile ago where he pretty much described himself like that
Rick Rubin is the ultimate "I think that sounds good" guy
If rick says it sounds cool, it undoubtedly is
@@meestabond7583 law
Except when you go through his body of work and don’t ignore all the garbage he’s done
So an executive producer
@@alphalax7747 literally lol
Rick is definitely just being extremely humble here. He has worked with the likes of Tom Petty, Kanye West, Johnny Cash, and Black Sabbath. You don't get there without actually knowing what your'e doing. Also, Rick loves the art, Khaled loves the money. There's a difference here in their approach to music.
Khaled also definitely loves the attention, maybe even more than the money. One of the most egotistical people in the industry, and that's saying something.
I think he also worked with The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Eminem too
@@Satire_Filmz Plus, he put Jewish rap on the map with the Beastie Boys and turned on the white rapper money tap.
But what does he doooo
It’s not humble to imply you’re so innately talented you didn’t even bother learning the basic rhyme or reason underlying one’s chosen medium. It’s like a legendary painter saying they don’t know any color theory because theyre often around people who know more than them
I've always thought Rick was kind of just an ideas guy. Like I thought Rick gave his input as a music fan and gave ideas for things like "maybe you should do this *makes sound with mouth* at that part" whereas someone like Khaled just sorta paid people to make music and then yelled on it
I used to think the same. I see him now more of a connections man, too.
Like: you don't have to know everything to get things done. But having the contact of the dude who knows everything helps a lot.
you can see him doing this with Flea on the funky monks documentary
WE THE BEST MUSIC
I’ve always seen him as the kind of person that facilitates other peoples ideas and creative processes. The guy loves music, is contemplative, and simply questions and adds input.
@@Minnevan M-M-M-MAAAAJOR KEEEEYYYYY
i think ricks just incredibly humble. With all the history he has in studios working with legendary artists of all genres, i dont believe for a second that he hasnt picked up plenty of knowledge on music production and composition. Like his ear is certainly his main thing, and he may not be a wizard with a soundboard but hes just been in the business of making music way way too long lol
Rick is not incredibly humble, he tweets quotes from himself every day on Twitter… as IMAGES 😂. Love him though.
@@RubmaLione LMAO
Rick once got Adele to throw away an ENTIRE album and make a new one.
The amount of faith people have in him is actually crazy. His opinion on music is almost mystical
@Thicc Thicc Thicc I have heard tale that within his beard there lies a magical dust which is released whenever he perks up his ears and furrows his brow.
i always see producers as creative people who help with the atmosphere and ideas, mixer, ingenering, those are the people on the board and with all those machines with sensors like chernobyl, so is clear i don´t know a shit because still don´t get what they really do, because plenty of bands produce themself, just know i don´t know a single producer wich i like all his work, if a band stinks nobody can erase that stinkiness more than themself.
I think Rick is just very humble, he's with the idea that "the more you know, the more you don't know". His standards are different from everyone else's. He's good at listening and bringing the best from artists.
Not to Corey Taylor
counterpoint: he produced “Revival”
@@bryanboyceboone9828 counterpoint to your counterpoint: he produced The New Abnormal (as well as a lot of great albums too, TNA is just the most recent one that comes to my mind)
@@bryanboyceboone9828 he also produced toxicity
@@salehalhomoud3500 he produced all SOAD albums, he's goated for that
I think the real difference between Rubin and Khaled is that Rick Rubin likes making music, DJ Khaled likes making money.
Edit: okay, i think my opinion on them needs a lil bit more clarity. This is based on the way each of them has presented themselves and their attitude in general to their music.
Of course Rick Rubin does this in part for money, i mean it is his job for, but what i mean is that his main focus isn't necessarily the sales figures of the records. I say this because he never talks about his music in terms of chart position or record sales, he feels like a guy who cares more about the process of producing the album than having it sell well.
Khaled time and time again has shown that his main goal is for an album to be popular and to be top of the charts, and if he doesn't get his way he'll complain like a petulant child.
Yes Khaled obviously enjoys what he does, if not he'd be doing something else for a living, but after all of these years DJ Khaled's music has become fast food music. It's just very homogeneous and samey cause it sold well in the past and he seems unwilling to really experiment much in his craft.
Rubin is more flexible, he adds his own flair and ideas to an album he works on but he still follows the vision of the artists he's working with and is willing to take more chances.
DJ Khaled definitely isn't in it for just the money, he's very passionate about the music.
Khaled likes making music, it’s just that the music he likes is bad
Which is strange because Rubin is worth way more than Khaled
Pretty Sure Rubin likes money too!
Why are you acting like making money = negative/bad? That’s a very poor person mentality, the problem isn’t the money it’s the quality of the music
I remember when Corey Taylor said Rick Rubin just sits around and eats food in the studio and says “turn that down”
I swear Rick has been saying this for his entire career yet people are only now shocked
FOR REAL I've known this about him like my entire life he talks about it all the time and it makes sense, you don't need those skills to pull out and pick what's sounds good and what doesn't
Rick Rubin is a meme for his consistency at producing legends.
DJ Khaled is a legend for his consistency at producing memes.
Some years ago I took part in a one-off music production class with Jacob Hellner (Producer of Rammstein and Clawfinger). It was mostly him giving a talk, but it was very interesting. The most memorable thing was this:
He asked us what our most important tool is as a producer. Some answers came, you know, arranging skills, studio monitors, songwriting etc. The answer he was looking for was: our taste. Hence why a Rick Rubin, without any notable musical or production skills, can still greatly contribute to a recording
Fascinating, in my opinion. If all Rick knows how to do is use Pro-Tools, that's still production in my mind. If he doesn't even know how to use that, then he truly is just an idea god with an ear for hits.
Rick doesn't do any technical production he said he "doesn't know how to work a soundboard" he is just there for the ears which speak for themselves
@@jessefischer7899 I think he used to know how to do some basic hip-hop production back in his Def Jam days? Like he could DJ and probably use a sampler and drum machine. There are enough anecdotes about him making tracks back then. But he probably didn't keep up with changing tech or focus on being able to be the guy hitting record. On a basic level he can use a soundboard a little bit...there's a series he did with Paul McCartney where he's dropping parts in an out of Beatles songs on a soundboard. So he could be doing that with any artist, making creative calls that someone else commits to tape/hard drive.
@@jessefischer7899 WTF happened with Californication then? It still blows my mind that a group of people could end up with such a poorly recorded album. (It's a good album, obviously, but god is the recording bad)
@@2m7b5 I personally think Rick’s contributions are usually overstated… just happens to usually be around people that really know what they’re doing but RHCP are prone to making shitty stuff all on their own lol
i mean dude he was producing shit two decades before the internet was even a thing, let alone "pro-tools" LOL
Engineers run the board. Musicians know music. Producers have the ear, and the vision. You gotta have all those people.
or learn to be all those people
@@raingirlcat2245 like jpegmafia
@@raingirlcat2245 honestly the modern obsession with doing everything yourself is very unbased, like sure you can definitely make really good music that way but collaboration with specialized experts is how the best music has historically been made
@@bairhall i don’t think there’s a modern obsession there’s not a lot of people these days that are entirely by themselves in their music. also jpegmafia isn’t some kind of musical lone wolf or anything he has production from other people on some of his albums
and some people just don’t work well with other people and like to be entirely in control of the music, which is fine. not saying that having a lot of people work on your album is a bad thing but some amazing music can be made solo as well
The director analogy works great. They have DPs shooting the actual film, gaffers lighting the set, talent acting in the film and on the postproduction side editors and sound designers and musicians writing the score, all with the technical ability to meet the vision of the director!
There’s a reason why Rick can facilitate profound results from every type of artist, band, and genre under the sun… It’s because his skill set is not at all based in the typical wheel house of a producer. He is first and foremost a coach throughout the creative process, and a therapist to the artist/s.Both of these roles transcend the technical world and lie in the realm of spirituality, interpersonal skills, philosophy, sensitivity, and many more. After this Rick’s other great talent is music curation. Once he’s drawn out the best in the artist, he’s great at looking back over everything and deciding what will or won’t make the final cut. To sit here and debate the pros and cons of Rick v Khalid is a bit disrespectful in my opinion, because a “producer” is a big umbrella term for crediting purposes. You can aptly compare cats who play similar roles as a “producer,” but equating Rick to Khalid through their mutual lack of technical ability grossly undervalues what Rick brings to the table.
He doesn't pretend to be more than a businessman I don't think. He's also humble.
I don't know if he's *just* a businessman, although he is definitely humble for not claiming anything he hasn't done.... I remember reading a quote from a Red Hot Chili Peppers member (can't remember who) and they said he can listen to a clip and walk away remembering the drum pattern. Might just be me personally because I can play five instruments and I can't handle percussion, but I think there's something to be said there if that's true. That's really freaking impressive. (I've met people who "speak rhythm" before, it's not the same as just kind of bopping to the beat. They literally understand music on a different level, they can *actually speak percussion* lmao, it's freaky tbh.)
I liked reading the article though because what I took away from his words about his own production is that it's his Ear and Ability to Communicate that make him a great producer. Business acumen certainly helps but I think he's got a good ear tbh
Well he's actually a producer.. like a very classic producer before it came to mean beat maker or writer. He literally produces music; he makes it happen. Rick Rubin got lucky and was working with the right people at the right time, yes. But at the same time hd is legendary not just for his ability to do business but for his ear. There is a reason every band used to hire a rick Rubi type producer. It's much rarer today, but let's not forget that George Martin is literally a 'Sir' for being the ear for the Beatles
@@SinclairSound I think the problem is that in music, the word "producer" is pretty nebulous. In the classic sense, you have a Rick Rubin or Quincy Jones who are producers in the sense that they simply oversee the production and get the right people in the room to make it happen. But then you have producers who actually produce the beats and sonically create the album (your Max Martins, Dr. Luke, Jack Antonoff, Timbaland, Neptunes, and so on). Some producers also act as engineers at the soundboard.
And then you get super nebulous with the term "executive producer", which could mean literally anything.
I was surprised DJ Khalid can actually DJ.
Man is an OG in the game, he was a DJ for Terror Squad back in the day, you don't get that far in your career without some sort of talent.
Rick rubins job as a producer is to help turn the windy road of ideas and thoughts someone has into a clear straight path forward. His job is to clean up the creative process and to give direction when things feel lost. His job on yeezus was to reduce a messy album into a minimalist peace of art with clear intentions and direction which is one of the hardest things to do as a creative
Art is the culmination of technical abilities, ideas, and passion.
You need all three, and Rubin just admitted he lacks one of them.
No it isn't. This is the definition of art: the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. Passion is an emotion and is not required.
@@RD-jr8nv if that's what you believe, I'm not going to argue with you about it. Art is subjective anyways.
@@zjohnson101 Not only is it subjective... it's also typically in a visual form too.
Apparently.
I feel like Rick can actually give some input as to what could elevate a track, however Khaled seems like he would say stuff like “Drake you should add more pizazz to your verse”
and when fantano reviews a drake album and says he liked drakes energy on this track, it would be because khalid said "add pizazz," thats elevating the track. stop trying to minimize his efforts, at least hes upfront.
Here's a list of artists Rubin has worked with
- System of a Down
- Slayer
- Slipknot
- Red Hot Chili Peppers
- Black Sabbath
- Metallica
- Linkin Park
- Eminem
- Jay-Z
- Adele
- Johnny Cash
- Imagine Dragons (yeah this too)
- Wu-Tang Clan
- LL Cool J
- Beastie Boys
- Lady Gaga
- Mac Miller
- Kanye West
- Rage Against The Machine
- Sir Mix-a-Lot
- Aerosmith
- AC/DC
- Audioslave
- U2
- Shakira
There are many more, but the point is Rick's worked with a diverse group of musicians all throughout his life. He knows what works and doesn't.
Khaled cares about printing money. To him, music is secondary.
You forgot the best one….Tom Petty!
The Strokes too! The New Abnormal is definitely in my top 3 fav album
Rubin's work with the Chili Peppers is his best work imo
I honestly disagree with the bit about Khaled at the end. I do think he genuinely cares about the music, I think it ultimately comes down to his music taste and ideas are significantly worse/more bland than Rubin’s
kanye?
I think he knows his stuff. He knows what sells and what it's needed. And he probably knows more than he said because he's been doing that since the 80s, so he knows things naturally at this point.
you all have a hard on for this guy without knowing anything about the actual person....
@@guscooke2219 and you sound like he peed in your lawn.
Isn’t it true that RZA didn’t know music theory when he made all of Wu Tang’s Albums. A lot of hip hop producers don’t have the budget or education for learning music and playing instruments, but they still put out loads of dope projects.
It's all in the term 'reducer'. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Rick helps artist focus on what matters to reach the best result. He's working with creative geniuses who's minds run wild so he has a very important role to play in helping to make them work at their peak.
Yeah best example of this is that last strokes record - so much genius going on between the members, but rick came in and brought them together, brought them back to basics, and, as you said, reduce and simplified their sound!
i love that you have a hard on for this guy its literally killing me
@@guscooke2219 if only he was there to help you through 'Japanese Trap Beat Free!', all 191 people who listened wouldn't have wished they were literally dead after.
@@HankScorpio94 ahahahaha, you ripped him a new one
that can be good but sometimes he takes it too far and oversimplify the artist's ideas
Marc Maron has a really good interview with Rick Rubin on WTF pod a few years ago. It was really interesting, Rubin went out and found Johnny Cash after fell off and got him to make some of the best music of his life.
I’ll have to check that out
This is as good a time as any to shout out Andy Wallace, the legendary recording engineer/mixer who had his fingers on many albums that Rick Rubin produced (e.g., Reign in Blood, Toxicity)
A lot of people don't realize that "producer' doesn't always mean "mixing engineer". Many producers know how to mix, that isn't what makes them a producer. Producers are there to make the band comfortable, or to push them towards better ideas. They're like studio managers/mentors. Rick is known for getting good performances out of the musicians he works with.
nonsense. producers are musicians.
if you don't make music. you are not a producer.
what you're describing is a manager.
@@svansy It's confusing because the term has changed meaning over the years. It's a more recent development that "producer" typically means somebody who makes beats or makes music in a studio. Technically speaking both interpretations are correct, because originally the term "producer" referred much more to how production/direction works in movies. Somebody comes in with ideas of how to do stuff and other people do the work to make that stuff happen.
Now with most things being digital if somebody says they're "a producer" they might mean that they make hip-hop beats in FL Studio or they might mean that they help make large-scale decisions for a band's album direction.
You can't hate on Rick Rubin and ignore his legendary work just because he produced Make Believe.
At least Haunt You Every Day is GOATed
Rick Rubin is responsible for the Run dmc version of walk this way. The group was very familiar with the opening drums because it was a frequent sample in the hip-hop scene. Rick had the foresight to see that them actually covering the song would be huge
rick rubins said this in a bunch of his interviews, dont know why everyones shocked. Its more of the less I know and am thinking the more im in touch with the reality of the music
Yeah this has been public knowledge for a while now
I think the difference is Rick Rubin actually has good ears and does offer ideas when working with artists while DJ Khaled just says a bunch of shit hoping people take whatever he says at face value
I believe who the best music!!1
BOLD STATEMENT but im intrigued
He's literally the Steve Jobs of music
Needs more upvotes.
After reading his aura, and having that Tik Tok psychic interpret it, I've come to the conclusion he's most likely Santa Claus or Gandalf the White from LOTR. Yes, by read his aura, I meant I made the beard association.
What a lot of people miss about Rick Rubin is that his skills aren’t primarily musical. Rick Rubin is more of a counselor or therapist bands and artists that he works with. He does help them work through ideas and provides a lot of ideas to tweak production. However if you watch his interviews or that Shangrila doc you’ll see he’s mainly helping the artists get oriented to themselves so they can get out of their own way and relax into the process. Fame brings a lot of distractions. Rick has talked about guitarists playing to impress the groupies they dragged along into the studio which can hurt the process. Sometimes it’s approaching your sophomore EP with a paralyzing fear of fucking up. Often he’s best at taking old acts that have lost their way and helping them rediscover what they’re good at. But he also helped Mac Miller deal with addiction for a time, and got pulled Slipknot from the edge of a breakup by facilitating communication that had died and gone toxic.
no ones missing it the whole comment section is full of comments exactly like this
I was surprised you named Revival when it came to your top legendary rock albums produced by Rubin.
This video really spoke to the two sides of performance I've been on - playing more uptight orchestras, and playing rowdy house shows. I feel like each group could really gain artistically from finding a happier middle ground. There are so many wonderful, technical musicians in my orchestras that practice theory and scales until their hands bleed, but you ask them to play an original idea and there's this giant fear of sounding bad, like they'll never be Beethoven, and they look down on the sloppier punk bands for playing out of time or not knowing theory. Then there's my friends in the house show scene. They're so creative, so expressive, but they talk down on people that practice with a metronome or want to learn theory, like learning the fundamentals will somehow kill their creativity. I feel like each group has a fear of being exposed to new ideas, and thus, a lot of the orchestra kids will never be more than a puppet for composers, and a lot of the punk kids will never be technically skilled enough to take their art to the next level. As for me, this isn't my profession, and going between the two kind of just gives me whiplash. Hopefully more conversations like these will unite the communities, and help both of them create the best art they're capable of.
The movie analogy is extremely apt. Albums are way closer in personal and production to movies, but the fantasy of albums being made by several dudes in a studio has an absolute chokehold on people's romantic vision of music creation.
I'll always be grateful to Rick for giving Barkmarket free reign to release whatever they wanted back in the 90s.
Intuition.
Vibrations.
Frequency.
Down to earth.
This is why Ruben is successful with artists
"Producing" can take shape in many forms. You can be a composer and the person who actually develops those ideas as a backdrop to a song, you can be a person who executes technically on others compositions, or you can be just a person in the room making decisions that serve, in your taste, the song. Ultimately a producer is the one responsible for turning a song or an idea of a song into a product. Sitting on a sofa and saying 'no, this is like this, and let's move this part here and take out the guitar here' is definitely still producing.
Rick Rubin is the perfect example of the psychological side of music production. It’s one of the most important sides of it, getting the absolute best out of an artist that’s already in there
Guys like this are valuable in all artistic industries, people with great ideas and no technical ability are worth more than technical masters who only know how to make technically proficient yet undesirable garbage.
There was a section in a book I purchased years ago about mixing music that tried to define the term “producer” as it relates to music. The term can have many different meanings. When describing the producers who don’t actually compose music and rather just assist in the direction of the project, they used Rubin as the classic example. He was known to lay on a couch, listen, and sometimes give nothing more than a thumbs up or down when it came to input.
As for musician, who has some struggles with being not good enough technically, but having ideas in mind which seem really great, this rant is kinda inspirational. In a way, that sometimes feeling yourself not skillful or advanced enough cuts out the performance of an idea, like you believe that it won't work out. But in the end if you are really into it, don't stop or overthink it and do it as you can. And more experience will definitely come after that.
just practice.... the better you get the easier it is to realize your ideas into music
I think there’s a place for people who don’t necessarily have technical knowledge, but have a far reaching understanding of the music scene.
They might not front the next huge band, but a music nerd in the right place might just point the right people in the right direction.
i disagree, in order to be a music nerd you shuold probably be into the "nerdy side" of music IE how its actually made... is he a fan of music... yes but that doesnt make you any kind of expert in anything
@@guscooke2219 well the problem with prescriptive arguments like this is that nobody is obligated to agree with your idea of what should or shouldn’t be pursued.
If you want to make music of a given style, you study the theoretical conventions thereof. If you want to hang out with musicians and press their records, you need a different set of skills related to hanging out as well as music.
What should or shouldn’t be is a matter of personal morality, combined with your experiences and notions of fulfilling art
I think thinking of a music producer as something more akin to a movie producer or other media producer gives light to this. Music "production" has a very technical connotation now, but some artists and engineers have all the talent already and just need the person who can help them get it all out there.
In regards to the guitar analogy, I think the main takeaway is that, regardless of his talent, Rick would never be stupid enough to do what Khaled did. Not only because Rick is considerably more humble, but also because Khaled is immeasurably stupid and overestimates his own worth. DJ Khaled's faults cannot be overstated.
It genuinely bewilders me Dj Khaled's produced music got anywhere NEAR the word 'mainstream', let alone in it.
He's up there with Pitbull in the S tiers of bland music.
Specifically your last line, yes! To just make something they don't quite know how to create sound so much better, or harmonious, is an amazing talent to have. Having the ability to hear something, and then provide useful or extremely effective feedback with no technical knowledge of the instrument is impressive. Conveying your idea with no basis of reference and still yielding great results is like a skilled art in itself.
I think Rick knows a lot about recording and production, he just came up in a time where music production was very different and i don't think he ever adapted his technical skill to the modern era of music production, so instead he just out sourced that side of it
In regards to the bit about an idea being better than being technical, I completely agree with this. I know musicians that are insanely talented but can’t write songs to save their life.
Whenever I write music now I start with my ear, music theory can just help to neaten it all up really.
As for Rick Rubin, there’s definitely an ora to him in them clips where you can tell there’s just something special there that can’t be duplicated. I don’t think even he knows what his secrets are. Would love to get in a room for even a day with someone like that.
he is so chill he takes the pressure of the artists and helps them to relax in the studio and he loves all forms of music, so he knows what sounds cool and what doesn't. He produced the best Chili Peppers album of all time Blood Sugar Sex Magik and there is a great documentary of the recording sessions and in one part he tells Flea to play fewer notes. This shows he has musicality even if he doesn't know music. He knows how to arrange.
>i have no technical ability and i know nothing about music
he's listened to revival, i see
My grandma makes a mean pot of gumbo but if I asked her how to make it she would say I don’t know cause she just makes it from feeling. Same thing
I think a lot of people tend to forget that a huge job of producers is to be that person that is helping someone (even some of the greatest creatives of all time) pull something out of themselves that they didnt know was possible. Getting into the mind of someone you are tracking and writing with can be difficult and its often an overlooked part of the process. With that being said him having a ton of resources helps! But there are people who have A LOT of resources but have no idea how to use them to create something timeless. Crazy topic could talk about it all day! Big up Rick Rubin
Loved this one. Ideas come first, feel, purpose, meaning in your music.
The movie director analogy is probably perfect. His thing is making a vision a reality, using the tools at hand. We don't give Scorsese shit just because he doesn't act in his own movies. Rubin has a proven track record. Whatever it is that he DOES do, it clearly works. Khaled is more like Tommy Wiseau. Even with money, he can't hide the fact he sucks and doesn't know what he's doing. And is also incredibly self-absorbed, to boot.
except Tommy knows he is a joke, but pretends he doesnt know for the rest of us kek
I don't know why this is surprising at all, he has said in the past theat he doesn't even like being labelled a producer and considers himself a "reducer", where he comes in and helps artists cut down ideas and focus the process, not necessarily create something new for them. It would seem his whole process is about letting artists go through their ideas and then guide them with his own, which has clearly shown to be a very successful way of retaining the artists vision while helping them actually get that work out there.
never thought I would here a title like Rick Rubin Is Basically DJ Khaled
your editing is superb! those cuts, damn!
Rick's always been more of a coach, a kind of project manager. His biggest talent is his ability to nurture the talent of other artists.
the music producer's main job in the days when Rick Rubin started working were simpler: make sure an album is completed by the artist/band according to the schedule & the budget allocated by the record label. from what i see, it looks like he often plays the role of the psychologist / therapist for his artists. these days the lines between production, engineering & writing roles are more intertwined. A producer (like myself) today is usually expected to be more of a jack of all trades.
Keep up the great edits whoever edits these
The best way to look at him is that Rick Rubin is a COACH
That’s crazy I made this comparison in my head last week and now Fantano is echoing it. Whats Next, he’s going to take my place inside his walls???
Anthony, I think the world would love to hear an album that you produce in the DJ Khaled sense. You are so passionate about music, have connections to various producers and artists, and know what it takes to make a solid record. It could be your next evolution (or just at least a good time and interesting content). Cheers brotha
As long as he brings Cal in on it, it will be at least an 8
Did my first studio session 2 days ago. Crazy how underappreciated producers and sound engineers are. Rick is the GOAT
I’m a beat producer, and I have a partner who has no technical abilities. However, some of my best beats come from us working together and having him guide me with his ideas. I think working with others is just part of the creative process.
Here's the thing. The definition of the term "producer" has changed and evolved over the years and means different things to different people. The role of the producer was basically the equivalent of a film director. They helped guide the direction of a project and had some creative input, but the technical guys were the engineers. Now, more often we see the merging of the roles of producer, composer and engineer into one, and producer means something completely different to a newer generation of people (i.e. one who the makes a beat or instrumental.) That definition of the term producer I think is causing a lot of disconnect here.
Also, Rubin doesn't put his name on the front of the album.
Corgan called him the best listener in the world. It seems he can listen to rough-as-guts demos, even just poetry without any music, and pick out the next single, often to the artist’s surprise, like “Really? You like THAT one??!” And he ends up being right.
Thank you didnt know how to say it but this is what ive been feeling. He's been around for so long and its never been a secret on how he handles anything, He's simple thee GOAT.
Idk if I'm tripping, but i remember seeing a bunch of videos where Rick said he didn't have an ounce of musicianship (and I'm saying this as someone who never looked into anything by Rick, so it wouldn't be hard to find any other interview or videos where he says this ig).
The most controversial Fantano Title ever. And that's saying A LOT.
This situation is the epitome of “Let him cook!”
Rick is about knowing the culture of music and assisting artist on how people will respond to the music,at least how I remember it from another interview
I love the interview with Rick and Mac Miller. You can tell Rubin is a musical genius just from youtube clips
YES!!! Except Rick Rubin has an actual good ear.
The compression in Death Magnetic would like to have a word with you.
The absolutely awful sound of Californication would like to have a word with you as well
@@gastonsepulveda9187 that was Metallica. Lol
The compression in Californication would also like to have a word with you.
@@thomascars1 I didn't think it was awful then. The sound matched the vibe of the band at that moment, at least for me.
But I will listen to it now. Lemme see if something changed in my brain.
Andy Warhol's was like this, too. He didn't do any of the art himself, his team did. But the ideas were dictated by him.
Jesus Christ Melon, it was too insane to not be a joke but titles like that is how ya get mellon balled through the screen damnit lol!
As someone who has set in a studio and record music, a producer is just as important as your instruments.
This is a top ten anime betrayal.
Brian Wilson didn't know how to play all those orchestral instruments either, but he's the one who made Pet Sounds.
But he wrote and arranged the entire album
@@no1u521 he wrote it, but he isn't the one that actually played the instruments on the record, he just knew what notes he wanted to have happen when and told someone who could play the instruments what to do
Never really been a Strokes fan til The New Abnormal. I played that album to death, but each time I would find new little details. Also absolutely love the stereo separation on the record.
Getting the best out of an artist and pushing them is an art.
How is this a revelation? This has been well documented for pretty much the guy's entire career. He's said a thousand times he doesn't use the board, and he hires engineers, and that he can't play an instrument. This isn't news, idk. Very surprised this is news to Melon especially, given that's he the internet's busiest music nerd.
Literally, I'm so shocked at how Melon seems to know nothing about Rick Rubin lol.
He was a big part of why Yeezus was so amazing though
I don't love yeezus, but without Rick rubin it probably would have been a mess of an album, what was it they said? I think it was something like 80 songs in total that they Brough down to like 13 in just 2 weeks. I can't imagine how much longer that album would have taken or how much worse it could have been released without the help of Rick rubin there
Agreed. I like to say there are many instrumentalists who are not producers and many producers who are not instrumentalists. And then a whole spectrum in between. Ideas rule.
I love the director analogy and have had similar conversations with my director friend. Rick is the goat.
The best conductor of orchestras may only have a rudimentary knowledge of the instruments he/she is conducting. yet the ability to inspire and to direct those amazing musicians into one cohesive vision/sound. Rubin, is one such conductor.
Seems like Rick has the respect of a lot of great artists so he's clearly helpful to them in some way
Rick Rubin is actually involved in the music tho.
Be they a great video! My favourite part was the CGI mouth on Rick and Anderson. High quality. 4K. Love.
5:44 keep hitting this link, every time he says "is trumped", hit it again to the beat... is trumped is trumped is trumped... he's got the hand motion for a gif, too...
You crazy for this one, Rick!
So you’re telling me the man who shortened Yeezus knew nothing about how Yeezus became Yeezus
honestly rubin is one of the modern production goats. hes prob got a few more classics in him too
You indeed don't need to know soundboards or engineering to produce. What Rick probably does, apart from the more philosophical side, is tell musicians about their strongest suits and how to find their voice. One thing I remember is that he supposedly asks artists to compose a lot of songs first, then filter out the absolute best for the album. This way he knows the artists have had a time of fruitful creative output where the gems can be collected.
I bet Rick seriously undersells his musical ability.
It seems like he undersells pretty much everything
The difference is Rick's output has been much better than DJ Khaled lol and he doesn't release the music under his own name like Khaled does but I'd enjoy it if the next Strokes song was released by Rick Rubin and featured him screaming his own name
I don't think Rick even shows up to the studio, at least not for every project. All of the footage I've seen of him working with Dixie Chicks looked like it was filmed in his house without any recording equipment. He's an ideas man and apparently a damn good one.
I was thinking about this at work today you read my mind Melon