I made a mistake in this video, oops. the example at 11:15 was not basecamp's employee, but coinbase's employee, who also decided to ban political talk while at work.
@@BrothaMan831 I will and I can. Anyone who is centrist at this point in history is still brainwashed and is being a useful idiot for the Left by preventing the conflict from happening and deradicalizing people. We need more radicalism not less. Radicalism is to a political entity what an immune response is to a body.
@@StarboyXL9 You know, one can easily argue that nazism was a radical response to the rise of communist, and, well, look how well that went... What people like you seems to miss is that radicalism itself is the actual problem, not the left. The left would be at the very least a torerable entity if it wasn't radical, and trying to tackle radicalism with radicalism is a self-defeating tactic, for even if you win, what you'll have build in place will be not that much different than what the left would do if they win. So in a way, unless you already believe in the radical right anyways, that way of thinking just doesn't make sense if your goal is simply to defeat the left. We don't defeat the bad elements that an ideology brings by becoming those elements just to defeat them, so I'm sorry, but we're stuck with centrism
One of the guys in my DnD group had basically this same reaction. He quickly realized that just because I think differentlynon a macro level doesn't mean I'm an awful human being after I made it abundantly clear I never attacked him nor his positions but merely defended my own from the labels of "racist," "crazy," or "conspiracy theory."
@@HandsomeLongshanks It’s the same thing when I learn the different between liberal and lefty. One want freedom to do and not do things. The other are snakes who change labels constantly, want to do everything, and force people to do the things they agree.
Yeah, I can imagine it. So can the people who suffered and died in gulags. Dehumanization and demoralization are the hallmarks of leftism, because human nature cannot thrive in a leftist state.
It still kills me how Shaun actually thinks that being polite and cordial is suspicious lol Like hes at the doorstep to realizing that there is something wrong with his ideology, only to immediately dismiss it and keep going. "Oh no! The enemy isnt behaving like the caricature we made them out to be!" Poor Shaun doesnt realize that the problem is him.
If Sargon treated him with smug contempt he would have complained about Sargon's lack of maturity or inability to be civilized. He was dammed if he did damned if he didn't.
@NorseViking84 He's very much aware that the problem is him. He just chooses not to admit it and denies it; admitting fault means that you are fallible. That means your ideas and beliefs can also be wrong as well. And if they are wrong, that means what he believes and what he's doing can't be justified to anyone. Not to even himself.
@@AverageAlien Socialists should give away their life priviledges to those that actually want to do shit with their lives. A swarm of locust is less destructive than them. I've seen a lot of socialists at my uni, they all run from socialism like it's the devil once they start working and getting paid, or their parents have enough of their shit and ship them off to bootcamp. Either way, when they have to look reality in the eyes, they drop the socialist charade.
Left: Society needs to improve for ME. I deserve unfair advantages because something something 100years ago something something YOUR ancestors (that you share no blood with) somethingsomething I'm oppressed.
@@Bopperann Basically. They'd have you believe that the skyscrapers were made of cotton and that the cotton gin didn't exist if it meant dangling the ancient specter of slavery over your head for a little longer.
Left: "I want to use government to force my will on others." Right: "I want to use government to force my will on others." Center: "I'm too gutless to tell you that you're both wrong and for the same reason." Activists: "I want to make empty noise and never actually do anything for anyone."
Not good enough, not fast enough. We needed that utopia two generation ago. Go! Go! Go! I'm going to do absolutely nothing but bark at other people, because I can't make the difference between *what i want* and *what you have to do*
1950s Democrats: I don't want black kids going to school with my children! 2021 Democrats: Black students should go to class with other black students. It's for their own good.
"2021 Democrats: Black students should go to class with other black students." Do you have a source for this claim? As you can imagine, trying to google it just brings up a bunch of stuff on segregation as a problem, not a solution. Also as you can (maybe) imagine, it sounds like a preposterous straw man argument you're making.
@@VeritableSmorgasbord "Kila Posey filed a federal discrimination complaint against Mary Lin Elementary School in Atlanta after learning that her daughter had been placed in a class only for black students." Have you been outside? College campuses are making "Black Only" areas. Not minorities, Black Only. Democrats are getting their way in a roundabout way. They are somehow making "segregation" a positive thing. Racism is in Democrats blood. Try harder to find info, it's readily available.
@@wtice4632 In a leftist culture of moral relativism and the constant consuming mire of the leftist’s overton window, there is not even a framework for what is a virtue and a vice. Lacking that, the most dedicated to the party, the in-group, assign the quality of virtue to whatever benefits the party, whether it be in form of financial or capital gain (power to leverage), in the form of optics (power over the people’s will), or in the form of recognized authority (power to rule).
Ow this comment hurts me physically, in a metaphorical way. My brain hurts just thinking about it. Is life really not a political matter? Or are you just referring to red team vs blue team? Cause I can agree there. Pointless.
Maybe you can fill me in. Politics is "determining how a society should be run and by whom". So this OP reads to me like, "Nothing but determining how a society should be run and by whom should be determining how a society should be run and by whom. Because nearly everyone hates determining how a society should be run and by whom." It boggles my mind. This mindset should be reserved for slaves. Please don't confuse me for a leftist. It's just the absolute state of modern liberals that astound me.
@@Nahinalau How about I don't want my life run by someone who's never met me. I don't want politicians to interfere with my day to day... You are assuming they have to, and that therefore not politicizing something leaves the people in charge to do whatever they want... which is exactly the opposite position held. It's not that we don't care what they do... we actively want them to do literally nothing. People's personal life is not within the purview of the government. That is the position... And you compare that to a slave's mindset?
The entire "personal is political" reminds me a lot of how my parents used to talk about living under a communist regime. Apart from the obvious propaganda in public spaces (schools, squares and so on), there was a hidden incentive where your adherence to the party had to be the central point of each private conversation or interaction. People even began the conversations with "party-approved" greetings, had memorabilia inside their homes that reminded them of the glory of the regime, and almost all entertainment that one could consume in his or her private time was centered around the celebration of the regime. Any past-time activity that was against the regime was not directly banned by frowned upon. People could lose membership in the party (which was basically a public execution) by traveling outside too much, going to church, or even buying certain brands. My grandpa had to hide the fact that he was a catholic and a smoker of a certain brand of German cigarettes in order to keep his job and not run into any problem. Any joke, any mention of you being against some policy made by the party was taken out of context and reported to the authorities by average people to advance their status, even if these mentions were made in privacy or during a regular chit-chat. Not talking about politics or not having a strong political opinion was considered to be a threat even if you were a model citizen. People often say stuff like that won't ever happen, or that it can't be done. Remember it was possible even before the Internet, hell even before a colored TV was a thing. So with the help of all the technology surrounding us, someone with enough power and leverage is capable of executing this... and most likely will in the future.
I worked with a polish immigrant who told me just how petty the polish communists could actually be over things that were unbelievably trivial like for instance: his uncle being shot for "economic sabotage" after being caught being in possession of an "illegal" imported chocolate bar because a family friend (who was a big shot muckety muck in the state security apparatus) gave it to his uncle as a gift.
@@storytellingchampion6438 Yes. The communists were exceedingly petty and selfish when it came too the common rabble getting access too shit that was supposed to be reserved for the party elite.
@@storytellingchampion6438 That particular co-worker shared a popular joke in poland about how stupid communism actually was. It went thusly: Person 1: So I hear your father is on that new investigative committee that's looking into the "security event" we're not supposed to know about or speak of. Person 2: Yeah he is, he's been appointed too the senior select committee under the executive investigative committee by the minister of the interior. Person 1: What does that mean? Person 2: it means if they don't get the expected results the minister of the interior will have them both shot to hush it all up.
The fact that Shaun or Big Joel cannot understand that people that disagree with them can still be polite on a personal level tells me how much of the problem is them and how much of a douche they are. But they will never understand that.
@@defectiveindustrieslil'offtopic but: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I understood "if you met an ONAHOLE once..." and was like whaaaaaaa for solid 2 minutes, re-reading your comments over and over and trying to make sense out of it. I still agree with you tho
If you take care of yourself, you are one less person that the rest of the world needs to worry about. It's not selfish to wake up every day and go to work, and treat every moment as if it matters.
I once said that you do a better thing for minorities and others by in one day by simply taking responsibility for your own life and going to work everyday, than all your activism combined has done. And that might be time better spent dealing with the "depression" your twitter profile says you have.
“Everything is political, but most things are negligibly political. We shouldn’t get worked up about about negligibly political things in our private lives” the mindset of evil fascists, apparently...
I can't say I agree, fundamentally speaking, with the assertion that 'everything is political'. That's fucking absurd, to be frank. The hot, steaming shit I'm taking currently isn't political, and if you believe it is, you are fucking delusionally insane. A better way to phrase it, I think, is that most things (perhaps all, although I sincerely doubt it) in humanity's collective sphere has ELEMENTS of politics involved somewhere along the way, but that doesn't make the thing itself inherently political. To illustrate what I mean, take coffee, as Dev does, for an example. Coffee is a beverage. That is, fundamentally, all it is. However, there ARE undoubtedly vast political elements and forces involved in the process of making coffee...coffee, in your hands. BUT, that does not make the coffee itself political. It sometimes makes the process of making it and getting it to you political, but thats about it. Or, in other words; politics doesn't magically transfer to the second degree. If the line for coffee is 'political process of making/manufacturing/refining/shipping/whatever coffee"---->"pot of coffee in your kitchen", I utterly fail to see why the politics are supposed to jump wholesale to the second degree. And if it DOES, then as I said, my shit is, therefore, political. For fucks sake, this is virtually the exact same line of logic progressives use to justify anything they don't like is fass-cisst. 'F-wordism has self help elements. Therefore, self help books are f-word'. 'F-wordism has nationalism. Therefore, nationalism is f-word'. "F-wordists drink water. Therefore, water is f-word'.
@@PolarDoc22 Who the fuck are you, and why should anyone care? Trick question; I don't give a shit. Feel free to spit a poor attempt at a snarky comeback though, by all means, should be amusing to witness if nothing else. Though, if you do, could you at least do me the courtesy of using whatever brainpower you have floating around up there to come up with something better then 'yu DUMMMBBB!!$#!"?
One problem is that these left lunatics literally think everything is political. But because they absolve themselves of their own consequences, they can not see the error of their ways.
One of my ex best friends is from Germany and when I first met him we used to be able to have regular conversations about anything and he used to be a pretty nice guy but after the 2016 election he quickly became obsessed with Conmunism to the point where he would ban anyone from our discord server who dissed communism, our discord went from being about videogames and movies to a constant stream of communist propaganda and it pretty much almost killed our server over night and when he got mad everyone left and I told him it was because people don't want politics shoved down their throat 24/7 especially something as radical as communism, he called me a piece of shit, banned me and now refuses to talk to me ever again. All because i was like "Hey dude maybe you should chill out with the communism, people come here to escape." The irony is his family was from the side of Germany that was communist during the cold war and he admitted to me he didn't know anything about that history. These people who want to push communism so hard don't even know how many people have died under communism and everytime they're forced to confront it then they say "THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM!". These people are brainwashed. I just want my best friend back but he's too far gone down the communist rabbithole and I don't think he's ever going to wake up from it. He threw away our 7 year friendship because he thinks that Communism will forever solve problems like poverty and world hunger.
@@dunno5329 He was a bit of a narcissist but I wouldn't have considered him dumb, it was more so just ignorance. He's pretty smart when it comes to alot of other things like math, science, literature, it was just history he wanted to ignore because of the whole notion that history is rewritten and sanitized which I would agree with except the obvious implications of this specific discussion because if anything communism has always been painted as a terrible thing and it is. I never agreed with him politically, he was just my best friend and I didn't care what his politics were because you'd think that friendship and family is stronger than political disagreements. I wouldn't consider myself too smart because I had to drop out of college when my mom got bedridden but I bartend and fix rifles on the side and it's an honest living.
@@yolomasta6940 seems like an education thing then. maybe you might have turned out similar if you hadn't dropped out. Perhaps alot of it is these ideals are seen as elite, so in order to work upwards you have to cling to this idealism. Which is why it's common to see this in college students.
I'm sorry you lost your friend. I've had to deal with similar stuff in my life with my relatives screeching "THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM" when I would bring up the suffering a lot of people went through due to it.
@@dunno5329 this could be true in some countries, actually. In some countries that were invaded by the USSR, there's quite a bit of push against communism and communist ideology in high schools due to how much people suffered under the regime. I cannot comment much on the universities though, as I did indeed drop out.
It was always about power. This is why the government has every right to come into your bedroom and tell you what to do. Because otherwise you get this.
It's honestly baffling that Big Joel was genuinely puzzled that somebody was polite to him and was then offended that he said point-blank "I do not respect you". Like ya? Of course he was insulted? That's literally the ENTIRE point of telling someone you don't respect them! There's literally zero reason to tell someone that you don't respect them outside of insulting them, so maybe he was taken aback because you responded to politeness with insults instead of reciprocation? More than anything the inability to figure out how others will react to actual literal insults makes Big Joel seem like kind of a nightmare to interact with on a personal level (and if you're reading this Big Joel that is, in fact, an insult).
Sargon has kids and a functional marriage. Most leftoids are social retards. That's the whole point of that ideology. To give people excuses to be their worst selves
@@MrCmon113I dont you appreciate people being genuine as much as you think the average person wants people they agree with to be genuine, and only the people they dont agree with have to be polite
@@kavkya year later but yep, noticed that some time ago. The ones shouting the loudest for shit like community programs etc, are the ones that are least involved with their IRL communities. Its essentially what Dev said with communists disliking the freedom to *not* associate with people, because IRL they are quite often genuinly annoying and people dislike them. Nobody is inviting you to a few drinks after work if all you do is talk about the revolution or whatever, nobody wants to have lunch with you if all you talk about is your favourite lefty streamers. So in order to have a community, they gotta force people to associate with them, instead of just integrating into society by become a normal ass person. Like it has been said a lot of times, revolutions are always started by the fringes and elements outside of normal society (either for justified or unjustified reasons)
Look at China. Do they think they understand public, private, and personal personality? Now this is what you're going to get soon if these lunatics are not stopped.
When someone is so shallow that they constantly worry about the external world, puts all their own problems onto the external world, but has no hobbies or any interests other than arguing... how can they understand? Private does not exist for them, because they have nothing private. Individualism does not exist for them, because they are not individuals. They are collectivists, and outside of their collective, they do not exist. So they fight for their collective tribe everywhere when it is under attack, because that's their only purpose. And then there are those that know the concept very well, and that's why they push for abolition of privacy. They want to be like the priests that argue for everything to be "in the light", public, and shunning any secrecy, but not planning to share anything themselves. They want power over the masses, but don't want the masses to know anything about them.
_"I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone."_ - Yoshikage Kira
"Everything is political" is what happens when religious instincts latch on to political viewpoints to make up for the lack of an overarching, meaning-making narrative.
I dunno. Sure I get depressed by politics sometimes, but I really enjoy talking about it, the underlying philosophy, and encountering interesting problems.
Yes. However. I’ve been getting back into philosophy somewhat, recently. It’s nice background noise for when I’m walking and working out. I like to think it’s slowly making me more educated, but I doubt it 😂
i hate when things are political, politics are the worst part of ones life and we should work to get politics out of things and politicians out of our lives.
That's what I hate about the far left axiom "the personal is political." They want to be in your life at all times, in all aspects, never giving you a break. I don't think even most religions want to be as ingrained in your personal life.
I'm of the opinion that its impossible to improve society without having moral people in it. So we should probably focus on personal improvement and society will improve as a byproduct.
I agree. The big problem is that marxists believe there are structural factors that shape how you think and that you cannot escape these circumstances without changing the whole of the economic-system. They do not believe in meaningful change at the micro level because they are focused on the macro level.
I have the mindset that these people who want to change society are the very same people who are deathly afraid to change themselves. They rather blame society for their own choices in life and push for a change in society in hopes it will fix their broken life. Sad souls, as it were called in the past.
@@PoperoniNews The irony is if Socialism had any chance of working; it would have to have a population where personality responsibility, duty, and self-improvement is the norm. All things that Socialists decry as meaningless.
@@PoperoniNews Didn't JP get that from Christian Moral Philosophy which in turn probably got it from something else? That golden idea is almost as old as humanity itself and it's still as true today as it has ever been.
There's a big difference between "everything CAN BE political" and "everything IS political". The former is true but the latter is false. The semantic is often irrelevant but here it is a very significant difference. Here it also isn't even a left/right scale, it is a "politically engaged"/"politically disengaged" scale.
@@lostalone9320 I wish it was only the Left doing it but unfortunately it is a habit and common trait in a lot of ideologically fueled or politically aware people now. Anything nowadays from medicine to as you say food is a political statement much to my disgust.
"Everything is Political" is just ideology justifying oppression. Simple as that. It's just one step away from the moral horror of, "By Any Means Necessary." I think this law is borne out by history: "All totalizing ideologies are eventually exploited by bad people." Or, as Thomas Carlysle put it: "Revolutions are started by idealists, implemented by fanatics, and exploited by scoundrels." (The chain of logic presented for "Everything is Political" exactly describes the state portrayed in the book 1984!)
To the utilitarian the outcome is the only thing that has any moral weight. Any action becomes morally just if the outcome is deemed morally just. To the utilitarian there is no inherent moral horror associated with "by any means necessary" and in fact "by any means necessary" even becomes just and right if the outcome achieved "by any means necessary" is seen as just and right.
@@ericb2103 At certain Gulags, it was observed that it was easier to move living people than dead people, and that burying them killed them just as well as a bullet. The utilitarian view resulted in executions being carried out by putting hooded people in carts, dumping them into pits, and burying them alive.
@@stcredzero yep. You heard the same sort of stories during the Holocaust. Lining people up on bridges over rivers, tying them together, shooting one and using their body as an anchor to drag the other under the water. Utilitarianism is not in and of itself immoral (nor is it inherently moral). It is proscriptive, not normative, but because it is proscriptive and not normative, it acts as nothing but a rationalization for what is normative, no matter how abhorrent the norm is.
@@ericb2103 The outcome is the only thing that can be bad and it's the only thing that distinguishes one action from another. Whatever else you think could possibly matter is part of the outcome.
@@MrCmon113 nah, I much prefer duty ethics over the "ends justifies the means" ethics. An action is virtuous or sinful in and of itself; the outcome does not change the morality of an action. Right and wrong are not merely products of the convenience of the outcome. As an example, murder can never be virtuous, even if the outcome justifies it (such as in self defense).
Hearing people say that politics is what makes them "human". Has got to be the most saddest and pathetic thing I have ever heard. I cannot imagine myself living like that.
"Left behind by the Left" That's because the Overton Window has shifted so much to the left so quickly. I'm old enough to remember when saying you're a Socialist or Communist in public held the same social stigma as saying you're a Fascist or a Nazi.
Only time I ever do that is if I get to more points to allocate for said handicap. Sadly, real life doesn't work that way. You don't even generate your character, your parents do, and the only choice they have is who they want to be the second half of the randomized character generation pool. Apparently, according to my RNG pool, I have to be half redhead, (mother was a redhead) since that is a forced roll. But that honestly doesn't matter because I also rolled bald, and autist. And all I got out of it was passably high intelligence. ;I
Hell, i’m on the right, and push for more Nuclear energy, advancements in medicine and agriculture, building up of our nation to reduce our reliance on other countries, and would rather have a more isolationist stance in regards to our forces in other nations in times of peace, but to still be ready for deployment should conflicts arise.
you see though, some people who don't understand that nuclear energy is a good thing, so they think you wanting that is a bad thing, armchair environmentalists just want to yell at and talk down to everyone else for having the wrong solution to the issues, its like how trump was awful for pulling out of the paris accord but also the US was still in line with what the accord wanted as far as emissions and such so the accord meant nothing.
I'm on the right and push for Renewables for the exact same reasons. I used to support more nuclear energy however the prices of solar and wind as well as energy storage have dropped to such an extent that nuclear is no longer practical from an economic standpoint. You might want to take a look at tony seba and the green disruption. Link: ua-cam.com/video/Kj96nxtHdTU/v-deo.html
@@mrspeigle1 Solar and wind power aren't reliable though. Not only that but the production of solar panels and wind turbines are very toxic for the environment.
Stuck in a class where the fundamental premise (it's been explicitly stated and explained multiple times) is everything is political. I'm gonna lose my mind. An artist walks into an art museum and drops a bag of groceries on the floor. A bystander asks why. He says it's art. The bystander says no, it isn't. The artist smiles and explains that since it started a conversation about art, it is art. Even a statement rejecting its status as art is proof that the piece is art. It's fucking infuriating, is what it is.
The liberals' stance says "Live and let live." The authoritarians' stance says "Either you are with us, or you are against progress." If it's important that "we're all in this together," then remember which one is necessarily more divisive.
They say "We're all in this together" and tell us to celebrate healthcare workers as heroes but then immediately turn around and lay off 20%+ of nurses when they disagree on one thing.
@@GeometricPidgeon The necessity, safety and efficacy of an injection based on technology that had never once been approved for human testing due to 70-100% fatality in animal test subjects.
Not actually different from the n@zis. They overvalue their ideology, and overestimate the importance of their actions. To the point where inhumanity is acceptable for the greater good of the group.
Straw manning the opposition gives people such righteous indignation and blinds them completely. Although I think the left is far worse at this, I do wish the fringe of the right wing lost their ego too.
@Trash Person ding ding ding. That's exactly the issue, the religious right of the 80s and 90s started and died on the same hill, leftists shovel dirt off the hill to make new ones
You have never been in a right wing space if you don't notice the immense straw manning. It COULD be reactive, sure, but it's just as bad. It's literally how they gain support. Making political opponents look as bad as possible. The left may be more popular and more vocal maybe but it's bad.
Considering that Volkswagen was founded on the basis that all of the 'volk' should be able to own a 'wagen', cancelling VW would probably require them to acknowledge the left-wing roots of bad German man.
The left then: Keep the government out of my bedroom. keep the government out of my body. Keep the government out of my music. The left now: the government should control business. the government should control your health. the government should control your children. the personal is political.
I think it's cause it applied when the main ideology of the government was misaligned with their ideals, and now that it's becoming more aligned, they want the government to have more invasive power, basically. an "it's ok when we do it" mentality, if you will.
Nobody has the right to "overtake" your life, or seek to subvert your freewill. The same goes for those that suffered historically. The point is to learn from the wrongdoing of the past, not repeat it.
A Safe space from politics, that sounds like something that can help with anxiety and stress, no way they'd wat that since that'd be... Mentally healthy.
Wow. This concept of " 'everything is political' versus 'private' " is actually SO insightful. Clears out all the confusion I have about western progressives' mindset. I'm from Russia, and you might think that I of all should be familiar with this. But the most of Russians have always tended to be strongly unpolitical. Historicaly, we have a mindset of "the people shouldn't question the tzar". Which transfotmed into "do not question the party". Which transformed into "do not question Putin".
Yeah, I think that's what baffles us in the west. For us, politics has become such a behemoth that the idea that people in some countries just don't really give a crap blows our mind. Sounds refreshing imo tho.
There is childrens book called 'Momo' by Michael Ende. It's a story about time thieves. There are grey, joyless men going around, and talk people into contracts to 'save their time' so they can use it later. The people who sign those contracts shave off the time at the 'nonimportant' things in life, like bringing flowers to the elderly neighbour, sitting down to eat properly and enjoy time with friends. The time goes into a time vault on a 'bank', but the grey men want the time for themselves of course, because they have none of their own. That story fits perfectly into what you're describing. Also, even though it's a childrens book, I think it's a philosophical masterpiece. So if anyone is interested, give it a read or a listen 😊
The time bankers will have the last laugh when their customers go into a comfortable early retirement of eternal youth and Momo dies of old age before 30.
This... makes a lot of things make sense. I have a lot of friends that I made in college whose politics I cannot stand, but they're great friends who I love hanging out with (when I can). I have no problem with being polite, friendly, and kind to people who I don't know or disagree with. That is, until they start disrespecting me. After that I choose to stop talking with them. It never occurred to me that some people might have no conception of private vs. public. Some people are immediately hostile towards me if they've heard about me from others without ever speaking with me, and I'm always confused about why that is. I've never spoken with you before, why do you hate me so much? But with this context of everything being political and nothing being private, encounters like that make so much sense. Thanks, Dev. I really needed someone to explain this to my pee wee smol brain :)
Shaun's comment always reminds of how people seem to disregard context. The reason isn't "context doesn't matter" which is the argument usually made, the real reason is that there is only one context: the political, as explored in this video. They probably believe that there is no difference in the way you act when you put on a show for an audience and a personal/private conversation between two people. Even then, those can have different contexts. Personally, the way I converse with my parents is not the same as when I converse with my siblings. Even then I speak differently when I'm talking to my father, mother, and each of my siblings. I'm even talking differently now in the UA-cam comment section. They think that all those interactions should be consistent and offer no deviation between each other. There's a saying that we all put on different masks depending on the person/people we interact with, because we all act a certain way to certain people depending on the context of the relationship with that person. They would probably disagree with this saying, believing people behave the same all the time unless they're acting, but they'd most likely phrase it as "no one should wear a mask, they should act like themselves no matter who they're talking to" making it sound like the person is oppressed by doing this, when really people are trying to be respectful to the person they are talking to. This is also disregarding the situation the conversation happens in which also factors in the way we act. They completely disregard the nuances of human interaction as a way to paint their target in a certain light.
Maybe I'm wrong but I honestly don't think most of the far left actually can't tell that some things should be private or that there's some level of nuance in everything or anything like that I just think their style of politics is mostly or always performative and that style of politics attracts egotistical people who want to look like they're the "good guys" and are the most bleeding hearted and altruistic individuals It's now gotten to the point where they only care how acceptable they look to their collective. So if one of them has personal beliefs that oppose their general narrative, that person is ostracized as part of the out group of degenerates "Which reasonable person would not side with leftism", one leftist commentator replied to me under a leftists video I watched Their comment really surprised me, and could tell you a lot about that person and maybe also for many of them to
As someone who works retail and has the stress of dealing with assholes every single day at work. If I tried to be political every moment of my off time, I'd die of a stress induced heart attack. It's normal to be full of rage that constantly.
Now realize that if you're a college leftist that is literally what you do. You work a shit job and spend every waking hour hating everything and everyone. I knew one who would, at least once a week, would start shouting at coworkers who said the wrong thing in the break room
@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown I really only use twitter because I used to be a content creator and it's the only way to keep in touch with some of my friends from that community. Some reason some people just won't install Discord.
Freedom = Security. He who offers fundamentals of one upon the altar of the other will lose both. Humans are collectivist by nature, so it's rarer to destroy your security for fleeting liberty, but it has happened.
@@KopperNeoman there's nothing more secure than a cage but nothing more anti-freedom. There are two kinds of people in the world one goes to the zoo sees the monkeys in the cage and is jealous they get to live nice safe lives brought three meals a day all of their needs are met for them including a mate if there a lucky stud monkey. All they have to do is stay in the cage. The second person sees those same monkeys at the zoo and pities them because they're stuck in a cage and even though there's no guarantee of security for Success outside the cage you have freedom outside the cage freedom to choose your own destiny the freedom to develop your own view of the world. Would it be nice if we had the ability to choose the cage or the jungle the problem is some people don't want you to have a choice because it's hard to convince people to stay in their cages with you out there in the jungle so they need you to get in the cage as well. Never trust anybody who says they're doing something for for your own good.
@Robert Stone Hence the rarity. Far more common to sell your freedom to touch the grass for the comfort of the gilded cage than to sell your secure hand rails for the freedom to freefall to the ground from ten stories up.
I'm 48 years' old now, and for my whole adult life I've been a classical British Liberal. For the last 5 or 6 years, though, I find myself more and more in agreement with the right than I do the left. The right have never accused me of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc etc. The right have never tried to silence my opinions. The right have never tried to get me cancelled. It's leftists doing that. If, ten years ago, you'd told me that I'd have more in common with conservatives than I do liberals now, I'd have laughed in your face. The weirdest thing is, though, I haven't changed my political opinions one iota in all that time. What does that tell you?
I swear it's the small communities unattached to the state that kept these principles alive. I've never heard a city boy speak of sovereignty or liberty in regards to our individual merits.
Tomato, tomato... Just because you give it another name does not mean it changes... it is left vs right, it is red vs blue it is rep vs dem AND it is liberty vs state... These things overlap, and to think they doint limits your perspective...
yeah the end result doesn't really change. i mean, the left/democrats are inherently pro big government, and big government means less liberty and more state control.
@@darkdawnbringer You might see it as the same but the politically ignorant don't think of it that way. I've gotten a lot better answers out of people by wording it in that way.
Under socialism, the State owns the means of production. Without workers there is no production. Therefore, the State owns the workers... Property isn't allowed to have privacy... You will own nothing. You will be owned. And you will be happy, or be disposed of.
I keep saying it. Politics is the new religion. The way these people pass judgement on one another is analogous to the way Christians talk of other denominations, how people of one religion talk of another. We are all too used to hearing tolerance from the modern Vatican and hipster protestant church. They didn't used to be that way. I believe politics is going through the same phase of development that religion went through. Question is, when will it be browbeat into placidity, and by who?
the whole denominations thing is just a mess, I vaugely remember this joke. "a man is standing on a bridge about to jump off, another man walks up to him to convince him not to jump, after some talking they realize they are the same denomination, but then one asks if he is from the break off from 1867 or the break off from 1855, after saying 1855 the other man pushes him off the bridge."
@@gerbilassassin3850 Richard Wolff is a "Marxist economist" who advocates for worker co ops. Under his system if you want a ps5 or any luxury good you would have to get permission from your co workers.
Dude. This explains how crowds of people can ambush others in restaurants and at their homes... To them, there's no difference between the office and the safe haven of home for "the enemy".
As someone who's starting a business in the new year this "Neo-plannist" position sounds like an absolute nightmare. Having no concept of being able to leave your own politics sounds equally nightmarish. Christ!
It can often be indistinguishable from being trapped in a cult: you know the answer to all societies ills, everything could be fixed if only your ideas where implemented, therefore anything bad that happens anywhere is a crime perpetrated by you political opposition.
It’s a very interesting reality to address... starting your own business is the fundamental expression of freedom and these people just don’t realise that the leftist ideology utterly ruins every single entrepreneurial and creative drive you might have... you can’t create profits and be a far leftist.
"I just find it ironic that, for as much as they cry out for safe spaces everywhere, a safe space from politics is the one that they reject" Couldn't have said it better myself
It's why I think a lot of these people are going to have to decide between being lonely politics obsessed losers in a few years when all this slides out of style. I will never accept something as personal as 'love' being treated as politics, and I doubt many others will either.
Being lonely politics-obsessed losers becomes inevitable when politics gets jammed in every media escape used to distract or ignore politics. Movies, television shows, cartoons, comics... We're running out of means to distract ourselves. We have video games and books, but it's only a matter of time. "Why did you make me do this? I just wanted to play video games" -Gamergate
@@PeterDivine I donkno, I just told people no and it worked out fine. lol Why do you think these folks are pro 'book-burning'? Enjoy the things that aren't right now, and were not in the past, it's better anyway.
I feel like this stuff is corrupting me. I used to not particularly care about politics at all, now...I can't help but see it everywhere, be "switched on" all the time, not sure if it's a counter-reaction or something else. I didn't like it before, but now that you've laid it all out, I absolutely despise it. I think I need to take some time to let things go, refocus on what is important and hold onto those. Thanks. You've given me plenty to think about, before it's too late and I lose the ability to think altogether.
In Swedish (and some other Germanic languages) we use the word "borgerlig" to refer to the center-right - to moderates, (some) liberals and conservatives. The word is also Swedish for bourgeois/burgher, as you might notice. Depending on its context it can mean secular or - more apropos - private as well. It is used for all of these things because they are connected: it is the bourgeoise center-right who wish to live within a constitutional order, with rule of law, separation of church and state, and sanctity of property and of the private sphere. This is primarily in contrast to progressives - who wish to organize all of society rationally top down -, but also to fundamentalists and absolutists - who wish to organize it, again top down, according to divine right.
@@junichiroyamashita Calling yorself burgerlich is kind of snitching on yourself, like calling yourself an influencer. It's basically saying that you just go with what benefits your class. "Liberal" is what people called so should call themselves, because that's principled stance for individual freedom.
I always remembered my grandma telling me: "There are 3 things we don't discuss, Religon, Sport and Politics." And I live by that, I don't care what relegion, sport/team you cheer or your politics, if you are fun and have a good personality I will engage with you
Being in the military is a great way to experience communism in a free society. Let me tell you the joys of having no privacy to the degree that your boss will come reprimand you for not making your bed at home.
I hate statism but increasingly believe that a mandatory 2 years military service would rid many people of terrible bleeding heart and leftist tendencies.
@@wtice4632 Mandatory enlistment seems like a good way to get a ton of Antifistas to get a foothold in the military 🤷♂️ I’d much prefer a voluntary military.
Many militaries are already being tainted - the US one especially. Mandatory service in THAT environment will make battle-hardened snowflakes out of honest men.
I've come to the same conclusion as Lilith. When looking at the statement "I don't want politics in my (hobby/interest)" they're not articulating themselves well. Take movies. Some of the best movies of all time are purely political dramas. So people can enjoy political movies/stories. So what I'm certain they mean when they say this is "I don't want to be proselytized at, especially when Im trying to remove myself from the stressors of my life."
Yeah, politics in a story done well usually presents the steel man version of both with nuance and ambiguity. The modern left version tends to read like an evangelical tract complete with fire and brimstone.
Monty Burns: “So what new musicians do you like?” Lisa Simpson: “None. They distract from more pressing issues.” Monty Burns: “You really just refuse to stop, eh?
The statement “we should improve society” is literally so universal entire ideologies are based around the rejection of that. Almost everyone except the cynic, nihilist and ultra conservative thinks improvements can and should be made to society.
Pointing out that a "private life" is technically the same as a "safe space" is the biggest revelation in this video, honestly. There's a ton of great things to talk about here, but this single concept identifies their disconnect and hypocrisy more than anything else.
1:05 - the representation of the 'The left' is a general statement. the representation of 'The right' is 2 (relatively) specific statements. this 'shadow positioning' is called 'reification' in which an ambiguous thing is regarded as a concrete thing. on top of that it also a loaded label, in that the very definition of 'improve society' is the result both sides are trying to do (and thus the conclusion of both of their actions). obviously there is a straw man fallacy, though one could flex the definition of left and right of those that want that which is stated (a different fallacy) and that would mean that both people are speaking different and incompatible dialects (which means argument is pointless as they lack a common understanding). basically anyone who wants to argue in good faith will take a hard stance on something, if they do not they will not be someone who wants to argue in good faith. this means that they are not worth arguing against, as the desired outcome for them is to make the other side a joke. in essence they are cracking jokes at the others expense, and those that go along with it are supporting that bad behavior. if you think back in grade school when this happened and most of the kids supported such joking there was no possible solution other than to excise yourself as much as possible from such people and to ignore them when you have to be around them. they eventually move on to someone else to make fun of, as that is their thing, but should you return they will then make fun of you again. eventually the kids grow out of it and thus a total separation of the groups can be avoided, but in this case that will not happen. if the school had any sort of group projects in which you were forced to be the odd man out in their group then you also know what happens when such people have power over their victims. in that case it is temporary and one can simply suffer through it as much as possible, and typically there is a teacher or parent to keep things from going too far (such as stripping the victim and leaving them in a public park at night or some other really bad thing), but again this isn't the case in this situation. the best case situation is to not interact with them so they don't even realize you even exist.
"Don't give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel! Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don't hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural!" - excerpt of Charlie Chaplin, the Dictator
Good analysis. This also taps into the left's apparent inability to recognize individual values or individual needs. For example: For some people, privacy is a minimal concern. For me, If I don't have privacy for at least some of the day, it takes a serious toll on my mental health. Simply being around people is draining on my psyche. While I do need to be around people, being around them all the time erodes my sanity. I need at least some time to be free from any scrutiny. I wonder if a leftist would even understand this concept.
Thank God you pointed out the Sigma Grindset thing is a joke, most people on the left think we actually take it seriously. I’ve heard it been called male astrology.
Excellent commentary. I think it’s related to the reasons why the Left Can’t Meme. For the Right, memes are an organic social interaction, for the Left, memes are tactical, because everything is tactical. When something is coming from a place of contrivance rather than of authenticity, it is immediately apparent.
I made a mistake in this video, oops. the example at 11:15 was not basecamp's employee, but coinbase's employee, who also decided to ban political talk while at work.
You are still brainwashed
@@StarboyXL9 explain your position.
(You won’t because you can’t)
@@BrothaMan831 I will and I can. Anyone who is centrist at this point in history is still brainwashed and is being a useful idiot for the Left by preventing the conflict from happening and deradicalizing people. We need more radicalism not less. Radicalism is to a political entity what an immune response is to a body.
@@StarboyXL9 You know, one can easily argue that nazism was a radical response to the rise of communist, and, well, look how well that went...
What people like you seems to miss is that radicalism itself is the actual problem, not the left. The left would be at the very least a torerable entity if it wasn't radical, and trying to tackle radicalism with radicalism is a self-defeating tactic, for even if you win, what you'll have build in place will be not that much different than what the left would do if they win. So in a way, unless you already believe in the radical right anyways, that way of thinking just doesn't make sense if your goal is simply to defeat the left. We don't defeat the bad elements that an ideology brings by becoming those elements just to defeat them, so I'm sorry, but we're stuck with centrism
@@7emidio You cannot fight radicalism with apathy. Either get radical or get rolled over. You will not be missed.
God, that thumbnail is literally, "I spoke to a Conservative and discovered they were human, what the hell is going on here?"
Big Joel is something else
One of the guys in my DnD group had basically this same reaction. He quickly realized that just because I think differentlynon a macro level doesn't mean I'm an awful human being after I made it abundantly clear I never attacked him nor his positions but merely defended my own from the labels of "racist," "crazy," or "conspiracy theory."
@@HandsomeLongshanks It’s the same thing when I learn the different between liberal and lefty. One want freedom to do and not do things. The other are snakes who change labels constantly, want to do everything, and force people to do the things they agree.
And upon discovering this he views it as a negative.
Imaging being a person who genuinely thinks "Why is this man upset that I insulted him to his face?".
"Imagine thinking that politics is what makes you human, rather than your humanity making you political." -Dev
Yeah, I can imagine it. So can the people who suffered and died in gulags. Dehumanization and demoralization are the hallmarks of leftism, because human nature cannot thrive in a leftist state.
@@PenTheMighty WELL SAID
All I want now is for the left to lose
@@anon9579 they will,don't worry Bruder
@@fatetestarossa2774
What'd he say?
It still kills me how Shaun actually thinks that being polite and cordial is suspicious lol Like hes at the doorstep to realizing that there is something wrong with his ideology, only to immediately dismiss it and keep going. "Oh no! The enemy isnt behaving like the caricature we made them out to be!" Poor Shaun doesnt realize that the problem is him.
If Sargon treated him with smug contempt he would have complained about Sargon's lack of maturity or inability to be civilized. He was dammed if he did damned if he didn't.
@@ausaskar this is why they deserve no kindness. Socialists aren't owed shit
@NorseViking84 He's very much aware that the problem is him. He just chooses not to admit it and denies it; admitting fault means that you are fallible. That means your ideas and beliefs can also be wrong as well. And if they are wrong, that means what he believes and what he's doing can't be justified to anyone. Not to even himself.
@@AverageAlien
Socialists should give away their life priviledges to those that actually want to do shit with their lives. A swarm of locust is less destructive than them. I've seen a lot of socialists at my uni, they all run from socialism like it's the devil once they start working and getting paid, or their parents have enough of their shit and ship them off to bootcamp. Either way, when they have to look reality in the eyes, they drop the socialist charade.
Shaun is a sophist!
Left: "we should improve society"
Right: "we should improve society"
Center: "well... both sides are right..."
Activists: "HOW DARE YOU"
Left: Society needs to improve for ME. I deserve unfair advantages because something something 100years ago something something YOUR ancestors (that you share no blood with) somethingsomething I'm oppressed.
@@Bopperann Basically. They'd have you believe that the skyscrapers were made of cotton and that the cotton gin didn't exist if it meant dangling the ancient specter of slavery over your head for a little longer.
For the left improving society looks like greater equality, for the right improving society looks like an greater order and prosperity.
Left: "I want to use government to force my will on others."
Right: "I want to use government to force my will on others."
Center: "I'm too gutless to tell you that you're both wrong and for the same reason."
Activists: "I want to make empty noise and never actually do anything for anyone."
Not good enough, not fast enough.
We needed that utopia two generation ago.
Go! Go! Go!
I'm going to do absolutely nothing but bark at other people, because I can't make the difference between *what i want* and *what you have to do*
1950s Democrats: I don't want black kids going to school with my children!
2021 Democrats: Black students should go to class with other black students. It's for their own good.
Reminds me of that Winnie the Pooh meme.
"2021 Democrats: Black students should go to class with other black students."
Do you have a source for this claim? As you can imagine, trying to google it just brings up a bunch of stuff on segregation as a problem, not a solution. Also as you can (maybe) imagine, it sounds like a preposterous straw man argument you're making.
@@VeritableSmorgasbord "Kila Posey filed a federal discrimination complaint against Mary Lin Elementary School in Atlanta after learning that her daughter had been placed in a class only for black students."
Have you been outside? College campuses are making "Black Only" areas. Not minorities, Black Only. Democrats are getting their way in a roundabout way. They are somehow making "segregation" a positive thing. Racism is in Democrats blood. Try harder to find info, it's readily available.
The parties never flipped.
@@butteryfriedwizard2219 universities rn are literally installing "race-based" water taps in their campuses. Not kidding
"Surrender your Privacy. Enter the Communist Collective."
- Big Brother Stalin
I'm surprised that nobody's realised the potential of a version of 1984 where every mention of Big Brother is replaced with "Onii-chan"
@@mr.powell8817 holy mother of based
Stalin : Prepare thy **federal reserve** 😠
An-commies : Ok daddy 😣
They literally did this.
Stalin oniichan
I think this is why they want kink at pride, they want the personal to be public.
If the personal is public, then you can't hide your sins.
@@DrachonaTheWolf the left exalts sin and puts it on a pedestal. The confuse sin for virtue
@@wtice4632 it isn't a coincidence that they chose "pride" of all things.
Truth, man. I've been fully in those circles & they are... not big on boundaries, contrary to their claims.
@@wtice4632 In a leftist culture of moral relativism and the constant consuming mire of the leftist’s overton window, there is not even a framework for what is a virtue and a vice. Lacking that, the most dedicated to the party, the in-group, assign the quality of virtue to whatever benefits the party, whether it be in form of financial or capital gain (power to leverage), in the form of optics (power over the people’s will), or in the form of recognized authority (power to rule).
Having a Private life and Self Ownership IS Private property
EXACTLY
@@CharlieKellyEsq once again everything is connected to everything else
Yep. Owning yourself is the core of private property.
Leftist can't stand when someone tries to tell everybody else what to think and do unless that person shares their views well then it's totally moral.
@@ExPwner Yep and it's a Prima Facie , You have Self Ownership at first impression, and if you attack someone you lose it
Nothing but politics should be political, because nearly everyone hates politics
Ow this comment hurts me physically, in a metaphorical way. My brain hurts just thinking about it. Is life really not a political matter? Or are you just referring to red team vs blue team? Cause I can agree there. Pointless.
When a founding mantra of your movement is “The personal is political,” you’ll make no distinction.
Yet some people tie their identity to it... and become neurotic basketcases.
Maybe you can fill me in. Politics is "determining how a society should be run and by whom". So this OP reads to me like, "Nothing but determining how a society should be run and by whom should be determining how a society should be run and by whom. Because nearly everyone hates determining how a society should be run and by whom."
It boggles my mind. This mindset should be reserved for slaves. Please don't confuse me for a leftist. It's just the absolute state of modern liberals that astound me.
@@Nahinalau How about I don't want my life run by someone who's never met me. I don't want politicians to interfere with my day to day... You are assuming they have to, and that therefore not politicizing something leaves the people in charge to do whatever they want... which is exactly the opposite position held. It's not that we don't care what they do... we actively want them to do literally nothing. People's personal life is not within the purview of the government. That is the position... And you compare that to a slave's mindset?
The entire "personal is political" reminds me a lot of how my parents used to talk about living under a communist regime. Apart from the obvious propaganda in public spaces (schools, squares and so on), there was a hidden incentive where your adherence to the party had to be the central point of each private conversation or interaction. People even began the conversations with "party-approved" greetings, had memorabilia inside their homes that reminded them of the glory of the regime, and almost all entertainment that one could consume in his or her private time was centered around the celebration of the regime. Any past-time activity that was against the regime was not directly banned by frowned upon. People could lose membership in the party (which was basically a public execution) by traveling outside too much, going to church, or even buying certain brands. My grandpa had to hide the fact that he was a catholic and a smoker of a certain brand of German cigarettes in order to keep his job and not run into any problem. Any joke, any mention of you being against some policy made by the party was taken out of context and reported to the authorities by average people to advance their status, even if these mentions were made in privacy or during a regular chit-chat. Not talking about politics or not having a strong political opinion was considered to be a threat even if you were a model citizen.
People often say stuff like that won't ever happen, or that it can't be done. Remember it was possible even before the Internet, hell even before a colored TV was a thing. So with the help of all the technology surrounding us, someone with enough power and leverage is capable of executing this... and most likely will in the future.
I worked with a polish immigrant who told me just how petty the polish communists could actually be over things that were unbelievably trivial like for instance: his uncle being shot for "economic sabotage" after being caught being in possession of an "illegal" imported chocolate bar because a family friend (who was a big shot muckety muck in the state security apparatus) gave it to his uncle as a gift.
@@Hammerhead547 Jesus... Did the guy who gave him the chocolate bar also get shot?
@@storytellingchampion6438
Yes.
The communists were exceedingly petty and selfish when it came too the common rabble getting access too shit that was supposed to be reserved for the party elite.
@@Hammerhead547 Well I am quite glad to live in a liberal democracy then
@@storytellingchampion6438
That particular co-worker shared a popular joke in poland about how stupid communism actually was.
It went thusly:
Person 1: So I hear your father is on that new investigative committee that's looking into the "security event" we're not supposed to know about or speak of.
Person 2: Yeah he is, he's been appointed too the senior select committee under the executive investigative committee by the minister of the interior.
Person 1: What does that mean?
Person 2: it means if they don't get the expected results the minister of the interior will have them both shot to hush it all up.
“Studio Ghibli hasn’t addressed Japanese imperialism in its movies”
Have you seen Princess Mononoke, Howl’s Moving Castle, and The Wind Rises?
the people who would make that hypothetical article certainly wouldn't
it's not direct self-flagellation so it doesn't count
Miyazaki is just a dirty Marxist. I have no idea why people like him.
@@ShortFatOtaku just hope they don’t piss in the wound after.
Howl's Moving castle doesn't really count as it's an adaptation of a British novel of the same name. otherwise a fair point.
The fact that Shaun or Big Joel cannot understand that people that disagree with them can still be polite on a personal level tells me how much of the problem is them and how much of a douche they are. But they will never understand that.
If you meet one a-hole a day, you met an a-hole.
If you meet 5 a-holes a day, you're the a-hole.
They're bugmen living private lives away from the diversity they love.
@@defectiveindustrieslil'offtopic but: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I understood "if you met an ONAHOLE once..." and was like whaaaaaaa for solid 2 minutes, re-reading your comments over and over and trying to make sense out of it.
I still agree with you tho
If you take care of yourself, you are one less person that the rest of the world needs to worry about. It's not selfish to wake up every day and go to work, and treat every moment as if it matters.
Really good comment, just saying.
@@jht3fougifh393 Really good comment for a really good comment, too.
Love this!
I once said that you do a better thing for minorities and others by in one day by simply taking responsibility for your own life and going to work everyday, than all your activism combined has done. And that might be time better spent dealing with the "depression" your twitter profile says you have.
What of Automation?
Can we expect everyone to have a job with current trends?
How can we negate this
“Everything is political, but most things are negligibly political. We shouldn’t get worked up about about negligibly political things in our private lives” the mindset of evil fascists, apparently...
I can't say I agree, fundamentally speaking, with the assertion that 'everything is political'. That's fucking absurd, to be frank. The hot, steaming shit I'm taking currently isn't political, and if you believe it is, you are fucking delusionally insane. A better way to phrase it, I think, is that most things (perhaps all, although I sincerely doubt it) in humanity's collective sphere has ELEMENTS of politics involved somewhere along the way, but that doesn't make the thing itself inherently political.
To illustrate what I mean, take coffee, as Dev does, for an example. Coffee is a beverage. That is, fundamentally, all it is. However, there ARE undoubtedly vast political elements and forces involved in the process of making coffee...coffee, in your hands. BUT, that does not make the coffee itself political. It sometimes makes the process of making it and getting it to you political, but thats about it. Or, in other words; politics doesn't magically transfer to the second degree. If the line for coffee is 'political process of making/manufacturing/refining/shipping/whatever coffee"---->"pot of coffee in your kitchen", I utterly fail to see why the politics are supposed to jump wholesale to the second degree. And if it DOES, then as I said, my shit is, therefore, political.
For fucks sake, this is virtually the exact same line of logic progressives use to justify anything they don't like is fass-cisst. 'F-wordism has self help elements. Therefore, self help books are f-word'. 'F-wordism has nationalism. Therefore, nationalism is f-word'. "F-wordists drink water. Therefore, water is f-word'.
@@papapalps2415 being that purposely literal made your entire wall of text a complete waste of everyone’s time.
@@PolarDoc22 Who the fuck are you, and why should anyone care? Trick question; I don't give a shit.
Feel free to spit a poor attempt at a snarky comeback though, by all means, should be amusing to witness if nothing else. Though, if you do, could you at least do me the courtesy of using whatever brainpower you have floating around up there to come up with something better then 'yu DUMMMBBB!!$#!"?
One problem is that these left lunatics literally think everything is political. But because they absolve themselves of their own consequences, they can not see the error of their ways.
@@PolarDoc22 YOU ARE WRONG
One of my ex best friends is from Germany and when I first met him we used to be able to have regular conversations about anything and he used to be a pretty nice guy but after the 2016 election he quickly became obsessed with Conmunism to the point where he would ban anyone from our discord server who dissed communism, our discord went from being about videogames and movies to a constant stream of communist propaganda and it pretty much almost killed our server over night and when he got mad everyone left and I told him it was because people don't want politics shoved down their throat 24/7 especially something as radical as communism, he called me a piece of shit, banned me and now refuses to talk to me ever again. All because i was like "Hey dude maybe you should chill out with the communism, people come here to escape." The irony is his family was from the side of Germany that was communist during the cold war and he admitted to me he didn't know anything about that history. These people who want to push communism so hard don't even know how many people have died under communism and everytime they're forced to confront it then they say "THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM!". These people are brainwashed. I just want my best friend back but he's too far gone down the communist rabbithole and I don't think he's ever going to wake up from it. He threw away our 7 year friendship because he thinks that Communism will forever solve problems like poverty and world hunger.
obviously his IQ wasn't that great. And in extension, so yours also isn't.
@@dunno5329 He was a bit of a narcissist but I wouldn't have considered him dumb, it was more so just ignorance. He's pretty smart when it comes to alot of other things like math, science, literature, it was just history he wanted to ignore because of the whole notion that history is rewritten and sanitized which I would agree with except the obvious implications of this specific discussion because if anything communism has always been painted as a terrible thing and it is. I never agreed with him politically, he was just my best friend and I didn't care what his politics were because you'd think that friendship and family is stronger than political disagreements. I wouldn't consider myself too smart because I had to drop out of college when my mom got bedridden but I bartend and fix rifles on the side and it's an honest living.
@@yolomasta6940 seems like an education thing then. maybe you might have turned out similar if you hadn't dropped out. Perhaps alot of it is these ideals are seen as elite, so in order to work upwards you have to cling to this idealism. Which is why it's common to see this in college students.
I'm sorry you lost your friend. I've had to deal with similar stuff in my life with my relatives screeching "THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM" when I would bring up the suffering a lot of people went through due to it.
@@dunno5329 this could be true in some countries, actually. In some countries that were invaded by the USSR, there's quite a bit of push against communism and communist ideology in high schools due to how much people suffered under the regime. I cannot comment much on the universities though, as I did indeed drop out.
This is my issue with LGBT you don't want the goverment in your bedroom but you keep shoving your bedroom into the goverment.
It was always about power. This is why the government has every right to come into your bedroom and tell you what to do. Because otherwise you get this.
orgies in the senate
Because telling them to keep it into their room implies that they are doing something wrong in their perverted minds
And they also shove children into their bedroom
@@lordchungus1552 Which they are. But they have no sense of shame.
"Curse the Right and their..."
**picks out a random Bingo ball**
"...desire to be left alone."
It's honestly baffling that Big Joel was genuinely puzzled that somebody was polite to him and was then offended that he said point-blank "I do not respect you". Like ya? Of course he was insulted? That's literally the ENTIRE point of telling someone you don't respect them! There's literally zero reason to tell someone that you don't respect them outside of insulting them, so maybe he was taken aback because you responded to politeness with insults instead of reciprocation? More than anything the inability to figure out how others will react to actual literal insults makes Big Joel seem like kind of a nightmare to interact with on a personal level (and if you're reading this Big Joel that is, in fact, an insult).
Sargon has kids and a functional marriage.
Most leftoids are social retards. That's the whole point of that ideology. To give people excuses to be their worst selves
Anyone else find it ironic that these socialism stans tend to be insufferably anti-social?
Or it means that Joel is more genuine than Sargon.
@@MrCmon113I dont you appreciate people being genuine as much as you think
the average person wants people they agree with to be genuine, and only the people they dont agree with have to be polite
@@kavkya year later but yep, noticed that some time ago.
The ones shouting the loudest for shit like community programs etc, are the ones that are least involved with their IRL communities.
Its essentially what Dev said with communists disliking the freedom to *not* associate with people, because IRL they are quite often genuinly annoying and people dislike them. Nobody is inviting you to a few drinks after work if all you do is talk about the revolution or whatever, nobody wants to have lunch with you if all you talk about is your favourite lefty streamers. So in order to have a community, they gotta force people to associate with them, instead of just integrating into society by become a normal ass person.
Like it has been said a lot of times, revolutions are always started by the fringes and elements outside of normal society (either for justified or unjustified reasons)
Do they seriously not understand the concept of a public, private, and personal personality?
Look at China. Do they think they understand public, private, and personal personality? Now this is what you're going to get soon if these lunatics are not stopped.
I don't think they understand how to human.
If they did, they wouldn't be arguing for its abolishment.
When someone is so shallow that they constantly worry about the external world, puts all their own problems onto the external world, but has no hobbies or any interests other than arguing... how can they understand?
Private does not exist for them, because they have nothing private. Individualism does not exist for them, because they are not individuals. They are collectivists, and outside of their collective, they do not exist. So they fight for their collective tribe everywhere when it is under attack, because that's their only purpose.
And then there are those that know the concept very well, and that's why they push for abolition of privacy. They want to be like the priests that argue for everything to be "in the light", public, and shunning any secrecy, but not planning to share anything themselves. They want power over the masses, but don't want the masses to know anything about them.
Private is personal
_"I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone."_
- Yoshikage Kira
Ah yes, the hand fetish murderer. xD But, still, that is a good quote.
Killer Queen already touched that comment
BITES ZA DUSTO!
Words to live by
Ironically, he would have lived that life...if he didn't have that compulsive habit of murder.
If everything is political, nothing is.
that's my favorite Syndrome quote!
"and when everyone is a politician...no one will be"
"Everything is political" is what happens when religious instincts latch on to political viewpoints to make up for the lack of an overarching, meaning-making narrative.
If everyone is a doctor then is nothing important !
Less politics equals more happiness in your life. Trust me.
Ye.
I dunno. Sure I get depressed by politics sometimes, but I really enjoy talking about it, the underlying philosophy, and encountering interesting problems.
Yes, true. Listening to political youtube is depressing. ShortFatOtaku has the gift of being able to talk positively about politics.
Yes. However. I’ve been getting back into philosophy somewhat, recently. It’s nice background noise for when I’m walking and working out. I like to think it’s slowly making me more educated, but I doubt it 😂
@@nomoturtle1788 yawn! Get laid, nerd!
i hate when things are political, politics are the worst part of ones life and we should work to get politics out of things and politicians out of our lives.
That's what I hate about the far left axiom "the personal is political." They want to be in your life at all times, in all aspects, never giving you a break. I don't think even most religions want to be as ingrained in your personal life.
@@calexander7495 they have infected all aspects of are lives schools sex relationships your job and property its horrible
Would you prefer armed conflict over all disagreements?
@@tonywebb1403 those folks are the fascists they like to falsely accuse others of being
@@EFCasual If they remain simply disagreements, then of course discourse.
If the level of control becomes tyrannical the question becomes tougher.
I'm of the opinion that its impossible to improve society without having moral people in it. So we should probably focus on personal improvement and society will improve as a byproduct.
The Jordan Peterson method. Construct yourself as a stable individual before you attempt to remold the world
I agree. The big problem is that marxists believe there are structural factors that shape how you think and that you cannot escape these circumstances without changing the whole of the economic-system. They do not believe in meaningful change at the micro level because they are focused on the macro level.
I have the mindset that these people who want to change society are the very same people who are deathly afraid to change themselves. They rather blame society for their own choices in life and push for a change in society in hopes it will fix their broken life.
Sad souls, as it were called in the past.
@@PoperoniNews
The irony is if Socialism had any chance of working; it would have to have a population where personality responsibility, duty, and self-improvement is the norm.
All things that Socialists decry as meaningless.
@@PoperoniNews Didn't JP get that from Christian Moral Philosophy which in turn probably got it from something else? That golden idea is almost as old as humanity itself and it's still as true today as it has ever been.
They really hate being told the words "I don't care" when they're whining about bullshit that doesn't matter to others.
There's a big difference between "everything CAN BE political" and "everything IS political". The former is true but the latter is false. The semantic is often irrelevant but here it is a very significant difference. Here it also isn't even a left/right scale, it is a "politically engaged"/"politically disengaged" scale.
@@lostalone9320 I wish it was only the Left doing it but unfortunately it is a habit and common trait in a lot of ideologically fueled or politically aware people now. Anything nowadays from medicine to as you say food is a political statement much to my disgust.
"Privacy is anti-socialist" I'm already a fan of privacy you don't need to convince me.
Privacy just got that much better.
"Everything is Political" is just ideology justifying oppression. Simple as that. It's just one step away from the moral horror of, "By Any Means Necessary." I think this law is borne out by history: "All totalizing ideologies are eventually exploited by bad people." Or, as Thomas Carlysle put it: "Revolutions are started by idealists, implemented by fanatics, and exploited by scoundrels." (The chain of logic presented for "Everything is Political" exactly describes the state portrayed in the book 1984!)
To the utilitarian the outcome is the only thing that has any moral weight.
Any action becomes morally just if the outcome is deemed morally just.
To the utilitarian there is no inherent moral horror associated with "by any means necessary" and in fact "by any means necessary" even becomes just and right if the outcome achieved "by any means necessary" is seen as just and right.
@@ericb2103 At certain Gulags, it was observed that it was easier to move living people than dead people, and that burying them killed them just as well as a bullet. The utilitarian view resulted in executions being carried out by putting hooded people in carts, dumping them into pits, and burying them alive.
@@stcredzero yep. You heard the same sort of stories during the Holocaust.
Lining people up on bridges over rivers, tying them together, shooting one and using their body as an anchor to drag the other under the water.
Utilitarianism is not in and of itself immoral (nor is it inherently moral). It is proscriptive, not normative, but because it is proscriptive and not normative, it acts as nothing but a rationalization for what is normative, no matter how abhorrent the norm is.
@@ericb2103
The outcome is the only thing that can be bad and it's the only thing that distinguishes one action from another.
Whatever else you think could possibly matter is part of the outcome.
@@MrCmon113 nah, I much prefer duty ethics over the "ends justifies the means" ethics.
An action is virtuous or sinful in and of itself; the outcome does not change the morality of an action. Right and wrong are not merely products of the convenience of the outcome.
As an example, murder can never be virtuous, even if the outcome justifies it (such as in self defense).
Hearing people say that politics is what makes them "human". Has got to be the most saddest and pathetic thing I have ever heard. I cannot imagine myself living like that.
"Left behind by the Left"
That's because the Overton Window has shifted so much to the left so quickly. I'm old enough to remember when saying you're a Socialist or Communist in public held the same social stigma as saying you're a Fascist or a Nazi.
You can also add the "If you don't like it, you hate it," mentality with no impartiality allowed...
at this point is "if you dont even mention it, youre clearly agains it"
Yep. Im impartial about both trump and the ukraine war. Wich means I must love the Orange man and Putin. These people are hilariously childish.
And then we wonder why these people are so wrought with insecurity; listing their disorders like character stats.
Only time I ever do that is if I get to more points to allocate for said handicap.
Sadly, real life doesn't work that way. You don't even generate your character, your parents do, and the only choice they have is who they want to be the second half of the randomized character generation pool.
Apparently, according to my RNG pool, I have to be half redhead, (mother was a redhead) since that is a forced roll. But that honestly doesn't matter because I also rolled bald, and autist. And all I got out of it was passably high intelligence. ;I
During the Maoist period of China wasn't there a line about how even the teeth in your head were part of the communal property?
Hell, i’m on the right, and push for more Nuclear energy, advancements in medicine and agriculture, building up of our nation to reduce our reliance on other countries, and would rather have a more isolationist stance in regards to our forces in other nations in times of peace, but to still be ready for deployment should conflicts arise.
This👆
but... but...
not invading the entire world is LITERALLY what nazis did!
/s
you see though, some people who don't understand that nuclear energy is a good thing, so they think you wanting that is a bad thing, armchair environmentalists just want to yell at and talk down to everyone else for having the wrong solution to the issues, its like how trump was awful for pulling out of the paris accord but also the US was still in line with what the accord wanted as far as emissions and such so the accord meant nothing.
I'm on the right and push for Renewables for the exact same reasons. I used to support more nuclear energy however the prices of solar and wind as well as energy storage have dropped to such an extent that nuclear is no longer practical from an economic standpoint.
You might want to take a look at tony seba and the green disruption.
Link: ua-cam.com/video/Kj96nxtHdTU/v-deo.html
@@mrspeigle1 Solar and wind power aren't reliable though. Not only that but the production of solar panels and wind turbines are very toxic for the environment.
Stuck in a class where the fundamental premise (it's been explicitly stated and explained multiple times) is everything is political. I'm gonna lose my mind.
An artist walks into an art museum and drops a bag of groceries on the floor. A bystander asks why. He says it's art. The bystander says no, it isn't. The artist smiles and explains that since it started a conversation about art, it is art. Even a statement rejecting its status as art is proof that the piece is art.
It's fucking infuriating, is what it is.
THose kind of people probably are why we get A.I. Generator supporters.
Punch him in the face
"Why you do that?"
"For art"
"That was assault!"
"But it opened up a dialogue about assualt, so its art"
The liberals' stance says "Live and let live."
The authoritarians' stance says "Either you are with us, or you are against progress."
If it's important that "we're all in this together," then remember which one is necessarily more divisive.
They say "We're all in this together" and tell us to celebrate healthcare workers as heroes but then immediately turn around and lay off 20%+ of nurses when they disagree on one thing.
@@rwberger6 that one thing being?
@@GeometricPidgeon The necessity, safety and efficacy of an injection based on technology that had never once been approved for human testing due to 70-100% fatality in animal test subjects.
As my college English professor put it: "If all you do in life is eat, sleep, and work, your life is no better than a termite's."
Well, I also fap so im the superior being.
@@rogierb5945You've got that guy, there. Termites don't do that, and most are probably drones that will never reproduce, either.
I'd love such life
Not actually different from the n@zis. They overvalue their ideology, and overestimate the importance of their actions. To the point where inhumanity is acceptable for the greater good of the group.
"The personal is political."
"Everything is political."
"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
Fascists.
Straw manning the opposition gives people such righteous indignation and blinds them completely. Although I think the left is far worse at this, I do wish the fringe of the right wing lost their ego too.
@Trash Person ding ding ding. That's exactly the issue, the religious right of the 80s and 90s started and died on the same hill, leftists shovel dirt off the hill to make new ones
The thing about the right is....the right doesn't force anyone to think like they do, the left wants to force everyone to think like they do
You have never been in a right wing space if you don't notice the immense straw manning. It COULD be reactive, sure, but it's just as bad. It's literally how they gain support. Making political opponents look as bad as possible. The left may be more popular and more vocal maybe but it's bad.
@@Elitist The right is morally superior because it doesn't require anyone to change the way they live.
@@Elitist it isn't a strawman if the person exist
These people clearly took Aristotle's "Man is a political animal" quote to heart.
VERY MUCH TRUE !
@@wilmagregg3131 neither did Aristotle. You're thinking of Plato....
@@o00nemesis00o nah your right i thought of platos republic instead of aristotles idea of a republic sorry got them mixed up
You can see how full of garbage everyone is when they cancel a chicken sandwich but Volkswagen, Keurig, Hugo Boss, and Bayer are still brands.
_"hey what were you doing in world war two volkswagen?"_
volkswagen: i uhh
Considering that Volkswagen was founded on the basis that all of the 'volk' should be able to own a 'wagen', cancelling VW would probably require them to acknowledge the left-wing roots of bad German man.
The left then: Keep the government out of my bedroom. keep the government out of my body. Keep the government out of my music.
The left now: the government should control business. the government should control your health. the government should control your children. the personal is political.
I think it's cause it applied when the main ideology of the government was misaligned with their ideals, and now that it's becoming more aligned, they want the government to have more invasive power, basically. an "it's ok when we do it" mentality, if you will.
Nobody has the right to "overtake" your life, or seek to subvert your freewill. The same goes for those that suffered historically. The point is to learn from the wrongdoing of the past, not repeat it.
A Safe space from politics, that sounds like something that can help with anxiety and stress, no way they'd wat that since that'd be... Mentally healthy.
Speaking of healthy, gotta love how these people are so about "the health of society" while promoting and advocating for suck unhealthy lives.
You don't get stronger by running away from adversity.
@@wakkaseta8351 Maybe it's decent cardio.
1:03 my turn
the left: Stay quarantined in your house that we burned down
the right: no. Fuck you.
"b-b-both sides make a good argument!!!"
The left:"nooo if you don't take your vaccine, my vaccine doesn't work"
The right: fuck you
"B-b-both side make good points"
Wow. This concept of " 'everything is political' versus 'private' " is actually SO insightful. Clears out all the confusion I have about western progressives' mindset.
I'm from Russia, and you might think that I of all should be familiar with this. But the most of Russians have always tended to be strongly unpolitical. Historicaly, we have a mindset of "the people shouldn't question the tzar". Which transfotmed into "do not question the party". Which transformed into "do not question Putin".
Yeah, I think that's what baffles us in the west. For us, politics has become such a behemoth that the idea that people in some countries just don't really give a crap blows our mind. Sounds refreshing imo tho.
@@UlsterHound77
It sounds refreshing to be a dumbass serf with no sense of agency?
"We must redistribute the means of privacy!"
There is childrens book called 'Momo' by Michael Ende.
It's a story about time thieves. There are grey, joyless men going around, and talk people into contracts to 'save their time' so they can use it later.
The people who sign those contracts shave off the time at the 'nonimportant' things in life, like bringing flowers to the elderly neighbour, sitting down to eat properly and enjoy time with friends.
The time goes into a time vault on a 'bank', but the grey men want the time for themselves of course, because they have none of their own.
That story fits perfectly into what you're describing. Also, even though it's a childrens book, I think it's a philosophical masterpiece. So if anyone is interested, give it a read or a listen 😊
There are weirder ways to save time like running instead of walking
The time bankers will have the last laugh when their customers go into a comfortable early retirement of eternal youth and Momo dies of old age before 30.
This... makes a lot of things make sense. I have a lot of friends that I made in college whose politics I cannot stand, but they're great friends who I love hanging out with (when I can). I have no problem with being polite, friendly, and kind to people who I don't know or disagree with. That is, until they start disrespecting me. After that I choose to stop talking with them.
It never occurred to me that some people might have no conception of private vs. public. Some people are immediately hostile towards me if they've heard about me from others without ever speaking with me, and I'm always confused about why that is. I've never spoken with you before, why do you hate me so much? But with this context of everything being political and nothing being private, encounters like that make so much sense. Thanks, Dev. I really needed someone to explain this to my pee wee smol brain :)
Shaun's comment always reminds of how people seem to disregard context. The reason isn't "context doesn't matter" which is the argument usually made, the real reason is that there is only one context: the political, as explored in this video. They probably believe that there is no difference in the way you act when you put on a show for an audience and a personal/private conversation between two people. Even then, those can have different contexts. Personally, the way I converse with my parents is not the same as when I converse with my siblings. Even then I speak differently when I'm talking to my father, mother, and each of my siblings. I'm even talking differently now in the UA-cam comment section. They think that all those interactions should be consistent and offer no deviation between each other. There's a saying that we all put on different masks depending on the person/people we interact with, because we all act a certain way to certain people depending on the context of the relationship with that person. They would probably disagree with this saying, believing people behave the same all the time unless they're acting, but they'd most likely phrase it as "no one should wear a mask, they should act like themselves no matter who they're talking to" making it sound like the person is oppressed by doing this, when really people are trying to be respectful to the person they are talking to. This is also disregarding the situation the conversation happens in which also factors in the way we act. They completely disregard the nuances of human interaction as a way to paint their target in a certain light.
Maybe I'm wrong but I honestly don't think most of the far left actually can't tell that some things should be private or that there's some level of nuance in everything or anything like that
I just think their style of politics is mostly or always performative and that style of politics attracts egotistical people who want to look like they're the "good guys" and are the most bleeding hearted and altruistic individuals
It's now gotten to the point where they only care how acceptable they look to their collective. So if one of them has personal beliefs that oppose their general narrative, that person is ostracized as part of the out group of degenerates
"Which reasonable person would not side with leftism", one leftist commentator replied to me under a leftists video I watched
Their comment really surprised me, and could tell you a lot about that person and maybe also for many of them to
As someone who works retail and has the stress of dealing with assholes every single day at work. If I tried to be political every moment of my off time, I'd die of a stress induced heart attack. It's normal to be full of rage that constantly.
Now realize that if you're a college leftist that is literally what you do. You work a shit job and spend every waking hour hating everything and everyone. I knew one who would, at least once a week, would start shouting at coworkers who said the wrong thing in the break room
I avoid twitter like the plague because thats what the entire site is, when I would visit it every day I was way more stressed out.
@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown I really only use twitter because I used to be a content creator and it's the only way to keep in touch with some of my friends from that community. Some reason some people just won't install Discord.
I think your last sentence misses a word "not", which would turn it into "It's not normal to be constantly enraged".
@@xucthclu You are correct and somehow the only person who noticed it after all this time since I left the comment.
Freedom> security
Freedom = Security.
He who offers fundamentals of one upon the altar of the other will lose both.
Humans are collectivist by nature, so it's rarer to destroy your security for fleeting liberty, but it has happened.
@@KopperNeoman there's nothing more secure than a cage but nothing more anti-freedom. There are two kinds of people in the world one goes to the zoo sees the monkeys in the cage and is jealous they get to live nice safe lives brought three meals a day all of their needs are met for them including a mate if there a lucky stud monkey. All they have to do is stay in the cage.
The second person sees those same monkeys at the zoo and pities them because they're stuck in a cage and even though there's no guarantee of security for Success outside the cage you have freedom outside the cage freedom to choose your own destiny the freedom to develop your own view of the world. Would it be nice if we had the ability to choose the cage or the jungle the problem is some people don't want you to have a choice because it's hard to convince people to stay in their cages with you out there in the jungle so they need you to get in the cage as well. Never trust anybody who says they're doing something for for your own good.
@@robertstone9988 many are blinded by the bright luster of the gilded cage
@@KopperNeoman I reject that humans are collectivist by nature. Maybe most are, but many certainly arent.
@Robert Stone Hence the rarity.
Far more common to sell your freedom to touch the grass for the comfort of the gilded cage than to sell your secure hand rails for the freedom to freefall to the ground from ten stories up.
I'm 48 years' old now, and for my whole adult life I've been a classical British Liberal. For the last 5 or 6 years, though, I find myself more and more in agreement with the right than I do the left. The right have never accused me of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc etc. The right have never tried to silence my opinions. The right have never tried to get me cancelled. It's leftists doing that.
If, ten years ago, you'd told me that I'd have more in common with conservatives than I do liberals now, I'd have laughed in your face. The weirdest thing is, though, I haven't changed my political opinions one iota in all that time. What does that tell you?
I swear it's the small communities unattached to the state that kept these principles alive. I've never heard a city boy speak of sovereignty or liberty in regards to our individual merits.
Considering private literally means individual, privacy would actually be antisocialist inherently
Being turned on like that all the time sounds exhausting. No wonder most of the people who stick to that ideology seem so bitter.
Why do you think they seem like political propaganda zombies all the time? There's a reason they're called NPCs. Its their way of life.
If you have a political thought lasting longer than 4 hours, please contact a therapist.
SFO is such a big brain.
My brain is unsmoothed by his videos
bro same
It's his smooth voice that wrinkles your gray matter
@@Sigilstone17 i thought I didn't have any
@@nuclearisok3353 now you know you do thanks to SFO's dulcet tones and his love for you
Luckily most of his comments are there to smooth it back up afterwards.
Everything is political sounds like too much work. I just want to be left alone
People need to stop thinking left vs right, red vs blue, Republican vs Democrat And need to start thinking about it as liberty versus state.
Tomato, tomato...
Just because you give it another name does not mean it changes...
it is left vs right, it is red vs blue it is rep vs dem AND it is liberty vs state...
These things overlap, and to think they doint limits your perspective...
yeah the end result doesn't really change. i mean, the left/democrats are inherently pro big government, and big government means less liberty and more state control.
@@darkdawnbringer You might see it as the same but the politically ignorant don't think of it that way. I've gotten a lot better answers out of people by wording it in that way.
@@darkdawnbringer
Words are important.
@@hildegardvonbingen9092 I know, that is why i dislike these semantics games...
Goood I like being Anti-Socialist even when I’m not trying.
Reminds me of when laci Green admitted that she has to turn off her politics in order to enjoy things.
So sad these people.
Under socialism, the State owns the means of production. Without workers there is no production.
Therefore, the State owns the workers... Property isn't allowed to have privacy...
You will own nothing.
You will be owned.
And you will be happy, or be disposed of.
I keep saying it. Politics is the new religion. The way these people pass judgement on one another is analogous to the way Christians talk of other denominations, how people of one religion talk of another. We are all too used to hearing tolerance from the modern Vatican and hipster protestant church. They didn't used to be that way. I believe politics is going through the same phase of development that religion went through. Question is, when will it be browbeat into placidity, and by who?
the whole denominations thing is just a mess, I vaugely remember this joke.
"a man is standing on a bridge about to jump off, another man walks up to him to convince him not to jump, after some talking they realize they are the same denomination, but then one asks if he is from the break off from 1867 or the break off from 1855, after saying 1855 the other man pushes him off the bridge."
Didn't wolff say you need to take your co workers permission before buying a ps5, and said it without a hint of irony or sarcasm?
YES, lol
I do not understand this could someone that speaks lefty please explain?
Like Richard Wolfe? The Stalin apologist?
@@slydoorkeeper4783 Yep.
@@gerbilassassin3850 Richard Wolff is a "Marxist economist" who advocates for worker co ops. Under his system if you want a ps5 or any luxury good you would have to get permission from your co workers.
Dude. This explains how crowds of people can ambush others in restaurants and at their homes... To them, there's no difference between the office and the safe haven of home for "the enemy".
As someone who's starting a business in the new year this "Neo-plannist" position sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Having no concept of being able to leave your own politics sounds equally nightmarish.
Christ!
It can often be indistinguishable from being trapped in a cult: you know the answer to all societies ills, everything could be fixed if only your ideas where implemented, therefore anything bad that happens anywhere is a crime perpetrated by you political opposition.
It’s a very interesting reality to address... starting your own business is the fundamental expression of freedom and these people just don’t realise that the leftist ideology utterly ruins every single entrepreneurial and creative drive you might have... you can’t create profits and be a far leftist.
"I just find it ironic that, for as much as they cry out for safe spaces everywhere, a safe space from politics is the one that they reject"
Couldn't have said it better myself
It's why I think a lot of these people are going to have to decide between being lonely politics obsessed losers in a few years when all this slides out of style. I will never accept something as personal as 'love' being treated as politics, and I doubt many others will either.
Being lonely politics-obsessed losers becomes inevitable when politics gets jammed in every media escape used to distract or ignore politics. Movies, television shows, cartoons, comics... We're running out of means to distract ourselves. We have video games and books, but it's only a matter of time.
"Why did you make me do this? I just wanted to play video games" -Gamergate
@@PeterDivine I donkno, I just told people no and it worked out fine. lol
Why do you think these folks are pro 'book-burning'? Enjoy the things that aren't right now, and were not in the past, it's better anyway.
I feel like this stuff is corrupting me. I used to not particularly care about politics at all, now...I can't help but see it everywhere, be "switched on" all the time, not sure if it's a counter-reaction or something else.
I didn't like it before, but now that you've laid it all out, I absolutely despise it. I think I need to take some time to let things go, refocus on what is important and hold onto those. Thanks. You've given me plenty to think about, before it's too late and I lose the ability to think altogether.
In Swedish (and some other Germanic languages) we use the word "borgerlig" to refer to the center-right - to moderates, (some) liberals and conservatives. The word is also Swedish for bourgeois/burgher, as you might notice. Depending on its context it can mean secular or - more apropos - private as well. It is used for all of these things because they are connected: it is the bourgeoise center-right who wish to live within a constitutional order, with rule of law, separation of church and state, and sanctity of property and of the private sphere. This is primarily in contrast to progressives - who wish to organize all of society rationally top down -, but also to fundamentalists and absolutists - who wish to organize it, again top down, according to divine right.
I see myself fitting into this term. The third good thing coming out Sweden after Stieg Larsson and the oksepeis.
@@junichiroyamashita
Calling yorself burgerlich is kind of snitching on yourself, like calling yourself an influencer.
It's basically saying that you just go with what benefits your class.
"Liberal" is what people called so should call themselves, because that's principled stance for individual freedom.
Grave of the Fireflies is pretty heavy in the consequences of japanese imperialism in Japan.
I always remembered my grandma telling me: "There are 3 things we don't discuss, Religon, Sport and Politics." And I live by that, I don't care what relegion, sport/team you cheer or your politics, if you are fun and have a good personality I will engage with you
Sheesh, no wonder they look so unhappy all the time. When you look into everything far too seriously, you take the fun out of life.
9:29 I'll hazard a guess and say they've probably never seen Grave of the Fireflies, or most Ghibli films for that matter.
Right? Ghibli fils absolutely get political. Just not in the way these crazy leftists want them too
I don't want to say it, but people like Shaun are truly evil. They're more then willing to kill their enemies if he could.
(Looking at the thumbnail)
Imagine being complimented by these two absolute sociopaths 😅
Being in the military is a great way to experience communism in a free society. Let me tell you the joys of having no privacy to the degree that your boss will come reprimand you for not making your bed at home.
you'd think that the private rank would have, you know, privacy xd
I hate statism but increasingly believe that a mandatory 2 years military service would rid many people of terrible bleeding heart and leftist tendencies.
@@wtice4632 Mandatory enlistment seems like a good way to get a ton of Antifistas to get a foothold in the military 🤷♂️ I’d much prefer a voluntary military.
Many militaries are already being tainted - the US one especially.
Mandatory service in THAT environment will make battle-hardened snowflakes out of honest men.
@@scottydu81 those losers would end up as desk jockeys in the military, not operators
When I am done earing my pay. Yeah I wanna go home to my own privacy and not have wondering eyes on me
The comic from the beginning is literally what happened to Gypsy Crusader
I miss that dude, he was hilarious
I've come to the same conclusion as Lilith. When looking at the statement "I don't want politics in my (hobby/interest)" they're not articulating themselves well. Take movies. Some of the best movies of all time are purely political dramas. So people can enjoy political movies/stories.
So what I'm certain they mean when they say this is "I don't want to be proselytized at, especially when Im trying to remove myself from the stressors of my life."
Yeah, politics in a story done well usually presents the steel man version of both with nuance and ambiguity. The modern left version tends to read like an evangelical tract complete with fire and brimstone.
Everything is political sounds like something one early 20th century italian would say
That Sarkeesian quote was chillingly taken to heart by far too many when it was uttered.
"Everything is political" is the idea that constitute the "total" in "totalitarism".
Cancer can be quite progressive.
Monty Burns: “So what new musicians do you like?”
Lisa Simpson: “None. They distract from more pressing issues.”
Monty Burns: “You really just refuse to stop, eh?
If you have privacy, how can the state prevent evil thoughts and wrongthink?
Im just glad Anita has fallen into obscurity.
Let's keep her there
The statement “we should improve society” is literally so universal entire ideologies are based around the rejection of that.
Almost everyone except the cynic, nihilist and ultra conservative thinks improvements can and should be made to society.
The left is the real Roko's basilisk...
lol
I was thinking the same thing, let's hope that they never manage to make one
@@BackUp-nx2de oof
Pointing out that a "private life" is technically the same as a "safe space" is the biggest revelation in this video, honestly.
There's a ton of great things to talk about here, but this single concept identifies their disconnect and hypocrisy more than anything else.
1:05 - the representation of the 'The left' is a general statement. the representation of 'The right' is 2 (relatively) specific statements. this 'shadow positioning' is called 'reification' in which an ambiguous thing is regarded as a concrete thing. on top of that it also a loaded label, in that the very definition of 'improve society' is the result both sides are trying to do (and thus the conclusion of both of their actions). obviously there is a straw man fallacy, though one could flex the definition of left and right of those that want that which is stated (a different fallacy) and that would mean that both people are speaking different and incompatible dialects (which means argument is pointless as they lack a common understanding).
basically anyone who wants to argue in good faith will take a hard stance on something, if they do not they will not be someone who wants to argue in good faith. this means that they are not worth arguing against, as the desired outcome for them is to make the other side a joke. in essence they are cracking jokes at the others expense, and those that go along with it are supporting that bad behavior. if you think back in grade school when this happened and most of the kids supported such joking there was no possible solution other than to excise yourself as much as possible from such people and to ignore them when you have to be around them. they eventually move on to someone else to make fun of, as that is their thing, but should you return they will then make fun of you again. eventually the kids grow out of it and thus a total separation of the groups can be avoided, but in this case that will not happen. if the school had any sort of group projects in which you were forced to be the odd man out in their group then you also know what happens when such people have power over their victims. in that case it is temporary and one can simply suffer through it as much as possible, and typically there is a teacher or parent to keep things from going too far (such as stripping the victim and leaving them in a public park at night or some other really bad thing), but again this isn't the case in this situation. the best case situation is to not interact with them so they don't even realize you even exist.
I wonder if people have used Fascist as a catch-all term for the right for so long, they've forgotten what Fascism really is.
Amen. You will take my personal from my cold dead hands.
"Don't give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel!
Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts!
You are not machines!
You are not cattle!
You are men!
You have the love of humanity in your hearts!
You don't hate!
Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural!" - excerpt of Charlie Chaplin, the Dictator
Good analysis. This also taps into the left's apparent inability to recognize individual values or individual needs. For example: For some people, privacy is a minimal concern. For me, If I don't have privacy for at least some of the day, it takes a serious toll on my mental health. Simply being around people is draining on my psyche. While I do need to be around people, being around them all the time erodes my sanity. I need at least some time to be free from any scrutiny. I wonder if a leftist would even understand this concept.
Thank God you pointed out the Sigma Grindset thing is a joke, most people on the left think we actually take it seriously. I’ve heard it been called male astrology.
"You have to run a marathon in 6 months.".
I think I can manage that.
Excellent commentary. I think it’s related to the reasons why the Left Can’t Meme. For the Right, memes are an organic social interaction, for the Left, memes are tactical, because everything is tactical. When something is coming from a place of contrivance rather than of authenticity, it is immediately apparent.
If some tells me there should not be private property, I'm taking their wallet.