Does nobody notice the FULL-SIZE ARROW KEYS on a laptop this size?! Which are actually separated and not intruding into other keys?! This is something I've wanted from my first exposure to a gaming laptop ever!
@@ultraL2 You never type text and want to get back and edit something ? For programmers that game, its a must... Editing code without arrow keys would be a pain.
Alex, I know you love valheim and you want to use it as a benchmark. But you've shown the FPS time and time again to be very dependent on where you are in the game. Please make a standard house or something you will always use. I can't compare the results of valheim on this laptop to any other laptop you've shown valheim on.
This isn't really a gaming performance review, so you would need to find a seperate video/written review that covers the part selection you are looking for. These numbers don't really mean much if they aren't taken from an average of few runs in the same environment(both in game and with controlled room temp)
For some reason I can't edit my comment. On the end: they won't spend that much time on a proper performance review. That's not the main part of these videos, it's more about hand-on experience.
It's funny how much effort these OEMs put into laptop designs but when it comes to desktop they turn into the Patrick nailing a board to his head meme.
Nonsense, plenty of thought goes into desktops. But the effort it spent to make them cheaper to mass produce, not something enthusiasts would care about like airflow or upgradeability.
Worth to mention that rtx 3060 in Lenovo Legion has power limit set on 130W (some 3060's in MSI laptops are limited to 75W), thanks to that it's really powerful and faster than many laptops with 3070.
I have the 3060 5i with a 11800h, and it absolutely is powerful. It actually does slightly surpass their lower 230w brick, and needs the 300 for Mac performance. I was genuinely surprised and impressed. (Though, jet engines were found in the same room)
@@LocaLGh0sT just save bro,I upgraded from a 2019 acer predator with a gtx1060,served its purpose but soon had heating issues lol started saving immediately,you can do it man 👊🏽
Rocking a Legion 5 Pro with a Ryzen 7 and a 3070... just perfect, was a legit upgrade replacing my 3yo mid-tier desktop for about the same amount o money I spent on it. The display is fenomenal.
i got Legion 5 with ryzen 5 and 3060 but its still a beast and also same thing, its replacing my desktop right now as gaming machine and because i got from sale it was only 999 euros
"If you get the non-i model, you get a bit more battery life" The look on his face, saying that on an Intel-sponsored video, described his thoughts pretty well
I'm having this laptop, non-i with RTX 3080 & r9. I never got more then 2:30 hours of battery life ! If someone is planning to buy this on battery then my suggestion would be don't go for it !
@@vaskarbiswas4614 You need to enable Optimus (routing the dGPU through the iGPU) to get all that battery life. It allows the 3080 to shut off when not in use, saving a ton of power.
IMO Linus should be making these more of lenovo legion based/videos with out the sponsers, they're a really good laptop series that deserves more attention
@@benisntokay What's the difference between him hosting it or anyone at lmg hosting? As regardless he's the owner of lmg and a investor in framework. Not saying he would be biased in his reviews due to that but I don't understand how making someone else at lmg do the review solves anything as no one at lmg is going to go against what linus wants to be added to the script.
@@JasperSchwinghammer Yes, and no. It’s kinda cool to see the content, but the “review” is going to come off as disingenuous if you already know that someone else is pulling the strings behind the scenes. He’s not going to review laptops nearly as much because of this. In fact, there’s barely anything about laptops because there’s just too much on his plate. Cable testing, LTX (Hopefully), Behind the scenes projects, and multiple channels just make the laptop reviews not a huge priority. If you want independent laptop reviews, Jarrod’s Tech is a good starting point because there’s plenty of other creators besides LMG that are more than capable of filling the role.
I actually got this laptop a couple months ago for my aerospace engineering studies, (gaming too of course), so far so good. Had to revert the keyboard drivers after updating it cause the trackpad stopped working, but other than that it’s been a great laptop!
@@movinperera Imo you dont necessarily "need" it, but you can benefit alot from it. Alot of engineering software are pretty intensive (solidworks, alot of simulations.. etc) Im in mechatronics engineering so Idk if there's some overlap to aircraft software or not
I've had my Legion 7i since September and I absolutely love it. It has everything I have ever wanted in a laptop. I got the maxed out version with a i9-1180HK, RTX 3080, 32GB RAM, and 2 1TB M.2 SSD's.
@@tommypham3241 not op but have the same model. Laptop stays around the mid 60s at best and just below 80 at worst. It's never reached temperatures anywhere close to 90ºC
Mid 30s to mid 40s under light use with Optimus disabled (I keep it plugged most of the time so I don't really need to have it on) and room temperature over 30ºC
I ordered one of these when they first announced it, and waited from july to late october, cancelled it and bought a galaxy book pro 360, built a kick ass NAS, and completely overhauled my home network setup.
Legion is good stuff, had my Y540-17IRH sporting an RTX-2060 for nearly 2yrs now. Other than the jet engine noise while gaming, I love it. I really wish gaming laptop designers would look into a better cooling solution even if you have to dock it to something.
I had my Y530 (with GTX1060), also for about 2 years now. I love it too, until recently I found out that the laptop can't be used for graphic intensive gaming if you have the battery removed. That's the only deal breaker for me, should I have known about it, I wouldn't have gotten this model, other than that, I really love the hinge design & the placement of the IO ports.
well me too but, Jarrod told that soon in a few months there could be the new 12th Gen CPU's with DDR5 Ram and maybe the new gen Nvidia GPU's, if not in a hurry, then better the new gen
@@Yakikitsu it will take 9 month until you will be able to buy 12th gen. We just got 11th gen available on some of laptops. Do you think Intel will just keep all the 11th gen cpus and give you 12th? Also the NVIDIA was increasing production of 3000 GPUs and barely catching up on the demand, do you think they will give you 4000 series before they sell out all 3000 series they can?
I love my Lenovo Legion 7, have had it for a year, can do everything i need... gaming/productivity. Only downside is battery life but that's to be expected.
I have this laptop with 3080 and i7 - it’s amazing! Complete replacement of the desktop, with external monitor I mean. I use it with 4K TV for games. I play ALL games on ultra 60hz 4K TV or 1440p 144hz ultrawide 38” monitor and NEVER had any freezings or other problems. Stress tests show this laptop doesn’t throttle at all! Also, due to vapor chamber the laptop is ultra quite most of the time, it is loud when you play games.
I got the Legion 5 with a similar config (Ryzen 7 5800h and 3060) and its really a great laptop for a professional who wants to game and have a workstation that can keep up with just about anything you throw at it. It feels really premium and the look is fine for an office setting, unlike most gaming laptops.
There are people advocating for 3:2, it's a thing in some laptops focused in office work, but ask for 3:2 on everything would be too ridiculous even for LTT, and they think 10Gbs Ethernet is a deal breaker for more than 0,0001% of the costumers!
The last few years of Legions have been known to tear themselves apart at the hinges, though. They *feel* sturdy, but then they break where they're mounted behind the screen and the laptop is then trash.
I really like Alex's reviews because he always portrays the regular consumer that knows stuff, but not really and he just goes with it XD i particularly liked the part of "GPU here presumably, probably a bunch of VRM crap in here", he got me there haha
The white light on the power button means the laptop is in balanced mode. Press fn-q to change to high-performance mode (light will change to red) and then try the games.
I got the Legion 7 (AMD version) about two weeks ago. Came with the Ryzen 9 5900HX, 165w 3080, 32GB RAM, and 2x 1TB SSDs. I have several thoughts myself for the few people that care (and the Lenovo marketing team that will likely be watching this video/monitoring the comments). Pros: o The 165w 3080 is a beast. I have a Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080 FTW3, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, 1x 1TB PCIe 3.0 and 1x 2TB PCIe 4.0 SSDs running off two monitors at home. It's literally about as good as you can get for a homebuilt system short of water-cooling the entire thing. (AIO on CPU, but air-cooled GPU). And... This laptop is about 90% of the way there compared to my desktop. Sure my desktop is definitely better and has two resource-heavy monitors hooked up to it (24" 360hz 1080p and 34" 120hz 1440p ultrawide), but the laptop's screen is no slouch. The gaming is incredibly smooth and I play at almost the same settings on my laptop as I do my desktop with only slightly worse FPS. I've jokingly considered selling my desktop because I could get a bunch of desk space back as well as several grand. This thing is a beast. o The screen is not as bright or as pretty as the latest MBPs, but it still looks fantastic and is bright enough that I can clearly see what I'm doing outside. o The size is great. It's basically a 16" gaming laptop in a 15" Thinkbook size. This is great if you want to slip it into the laptop socket pocket of your schoolbag (like I do) as it fits snug, but not tight. It's definitely not as slim as Macbooks or Ultrabooks, but it's also not nearly as clunky as previous gaming laptops I've owned. The 16" screen is awesome for productivity, and even though it throws me off a little when I game with 16:10, the productivity benefits over 16:9 are huge. I didn't think a ration change as small as this and an extra inch of screenspace would make as big of a difference as it did, but I no longer feel like I'm cramming when I have two browsers open to study/write. o The FN+Q and FN+R hotkeys for turning the system into Quiet/Auto/Performance modes and from 165hz to 60hz are incredibly useful. I'm a student that works a meaningless work-study job and spend 99% of my time watching UA-cam and playing games whilst at work. At school, I can switch it to Quiet mode & 60hz and get 7ish hours of life out of the battery at 75% brightness. When I go to work, I just have to press 3 buttons and plug in the beefy charger and now I have a top-of-the-line gaming machine. o The charging brick is great. It's absolutely massive, yes, but Lenovo made it to the same height as the laptop chassis with the screen up. So whilst it still takes up a lot of space, it doesn't look as awful as the 3" tall monsters I used to have with ASUS and MSI. The fact that it's 300w is obviously great and of course, you can always just use a GAN charger + USB cable to charge it. The Legion 7i has Thunderbolt 4, so you will do a lot better with the cable, but the AMD version is no slouch and still charges relatively fast without Thunderbolt 4. Cons: o Corsair iCue is even worse than you realize and will literally delete your battery life in half the time EVEN IF YOU TURN ALL RGB OFF. Seriously, it's hilariously bad and I'm not sure if it's Corsair's software or Lenovo's hardware integration (likely a little of both), but it's a hilariously bad flaw. Those 7 hours I was talking about earlier? Use the exact same settings with the RGB OFF, but iCue still installed, and I was getting about 2 hours. It's completely unacceptable. I know there are some fixes you can do out there, but I just elected to remove it from the system as a whole. The stock RGB settings with it gone are still more than enough for me. o The USB-A ports all being on the back make having a mouse/keyboard receiver a pain in the butt. Bluetooth works as well, but the Logitech receiver for my mouse is consistently getting caught on the inside of my backpack. I like the fact that there are 2 USB-Cs on the sides of the laptop, but most mouse/keyboard accessories today still use USB-A, so hopefully, they can put at least one of them on the sides for the next iteration. _______________________________________ If anyone actually wants to know more, feel free to ask!
I have questions what about hinges? You think they will hold up? Long term value of laptop will hold up or is it better buy Macbook M1 max for long-term if I want resell it? And battery life also will probably die sooner than Macbook
@@ashmaterial I haven't used the new MPB M1Xs, but all Apple products generally hold their value far better than similarly priced competition. So if you're planning on selling it at some point and you won't be limited by MBP software, then I say go for it. In saying that, the hinges on these are top notch and I don't see them failing from normal use.
Rocking a Legion 7 in the 5900HX/3080/32GB RAM/1TB SSD configuration and it is an absolute beast. I have to give props to the wifi 6 card too, that thing was pulling ~900 Mbps downloading from steam.
I have the nearly exact same laptop as this one(Legion 5i, just without the RGB around the side of the chassis) The only two complain is the huge and heavy power brick, and the Legion lego on the back of my machine glow as bright as a headlamp. It is a brillant laptop
I got the Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 5800, RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB RAM 3200, 1TB nvme from WD (that I already put another 1TB nvme from WD into it) which I purchased on Linuses Hands on with it (in Februaury I think?) and bought the machine in June this year for 1800€ and I love this beast. I thanked on that video for being informative that I could do a solid opinion of it and make the purchase, and Im going to thank everyone again here for all the informative videos you do on products that enable people to make choices of their own and not get anxiety from all the Marketing bullshit that these corporations are putting out.
I think this is the first time, I've felt that a video uploaded on this channel was just a marketing video, there was no audio comparison, nothing about the webcam. I was hoping for a proper review which is generally done on this channel.
I just bought this laptop a few weeks ago with the RTX3080, stacked some discounts that I had and was able to get it fully equipped for just over 2k. It's been absolutely worth it, such high quality machine, but the battery life is the worst on it if the gpu is being utilized, however in non-gpu mode you can definitely squeak out about 5 hours or more from it.
One big thing to note about Lenovo is the thermals: after a year of 6 months the fans starting to be clogged up. So don't mind about warranty, just dismount the backplate and clean it yourself. I have the Lenovo Legion Y540 (i7 / 2080Ti) and I needed to re-apply the thermal paste after one year as I was cleaning the fans from dust and nastyness..
Bought a Legion 5 (i7-10750H & GTX 1660 Ti) this year, I know it's a bit last year but heck the performance surprises me. And it doesn't really scream while gaming
I have the AMD version of this laptop and I'm an automation controls tech so it's used for programming and graphics editing with a side of gaming and I'm absolutely in love with it.
By far the best laptop, super well made and does run cooler and more quit than all the competition. Especially just lifting the laptop off the desk/table with a small stand gaps for ventilation.
I have a Legion Y530 I got in early 2019 and its still rocking strong to this day! I do have a problem with mine that does not seem to be an issue with these, the track pad buttons both broke and make an annoying cracking sound when pressed, other than that small issue, its still running great (8750h + 1050ti)
I bought two Legion 15s for 1100 a piece in December with 2060s, 1tb nvme ssd, 16gb ddr4 3200, and an intel something or another 6core. Also a 144hz IPS panel. Very happy with the purchase. Doesn't look gamery and majority of the I/O coming out the back is amazing. Highly recommend the Legion series.
You mean the one that can most likely be changed to remain pure white or match the current power mode? I actually have the Legion with the Ryzen 5800H and 3060 with no RGB, and I gotta say even as someone who would not like a flashy gamer laptop I would like a small strip that lit up when my backlight was on, or as I said - matched the blue/white/red on my power button for quiet/auto/high P mode respectively.
Returned my Razer 14 3070 5800H for this model, but with 32GB of ram and same GPU and CPU. This will be my first Lenovo machine. I’m pretty stoked for it!
No thermals? No fps benchmarks? Battery life? Sponsored review? Come on, gimme a mix of cpu bound and gpu bound games on a chart. Temperatures while stress testing and while gaming. Thermal camera so I know how hot it is to the touch. I think this information is important to people when buying a laptop, I know it is for me. Much love.
I own the laptop. I have the i9-11980HK and 3080 version. The thermals are amazing. 70 to 80c on the i9 in games such as Battlefield and Call Of Duty and my 3080 is overclocked and never goes above 70c. The cooling is incredibe for a laptop
I have the Ryzen 9 5900 HX Version with the 3080, and 1 tb then immediately replaced ram to 64 gb and added another 1 tb m2 ssd and upgraded to windows pro ! ITS a beast of a laptop and it works for everything love it!
I bought ryzen 7 5800H rtx3070 one 3 weeks ago, because it was the only one available in my region. It is absolutely perfect notebook, hope it will last me for at least 5-6 years.
I bought this Legion 7i with RTX 3080 16 Go and 32 Go RAM. Runs very well Flight Simulator on Ultra settings at 30/40 fps. If you lower down to. High settings, you will not lose much in quality but will achieve between 60 -80 fps. I limited the fps not to have a too hot CPU (85 degrees). Really pleased with this Legion. One negative point. Very difficult to open to install a second SSD
Great. Now please review the Lenovo IdeaPad 5/5i Pro and the Yoga Slim 7/7i Pro! Great consumer laptops that could be compared to the Dell XPS or HP Envy lineup (with the IdeaPad Pro being more of a budget laptop!)
I was just going through the build options for this laptop and if you choose to upgrade the ssd to 1Tb it automatically upgrades the graphics card to a 3070 with the only other option being the 3080. So if you want the 3060 you have to get it with the 512 gb ssd
I've got the Legion 5 with AMD and 3060, it runs amazing and was the best bang for buck I could find. Highly recommend it, the only downside is battery life, don't expect this to last many hours.
Get yourself into the lenovo legion discord fan community. they have a lot of software tweaks and custom power plans making even the 60w/h battery capable of surpassing 5 hours if you aren't gaming.
I opted for the Legion 5 Pro because of the better display. Indeed, this line of Lenovo is a desktop with a small UPS. It is more than twice as powerful as my old desktop when plugged in and just as powerful on battery.
I have the 3070, 15.6” Ryzen 5800H 1TB version with the normal 165Hz 1080p screen and it fucking slaps. Heavy to carry around still (especially with the charger) but holy hell u get a lot for the money. Got it for ~1500€ on sale and I can hook it up to my external 1440p screen and play Metro Exodus on max settings with ray tracing with ~90 FPS pretty stable. (With DLSS set to balance). P.s. KEYBOARD FEELS AMAZING Downsides: battery life (5-6 hours at best if u DONT forget to turn off the NVIDIA drivers, which u will always do.) and very heavy to carry
Bought a Legion 5 pro Ryzen 6800h + 3070 ... They'll ship in a month. Got it solely for Display over 5i one as that one didn't ship with the 500nits HDR panel in my country. Plus the battery life too was a consideration as most games aren't CPU bottlenecked anyways and I mostly use it for MS office when I'm not Browsing/gaming/watching videos.
Lenovo always has had that one lineup of gaming laptops, that are great to balance b/w work and gaming and even for engineering students, etc. The Win8 to Win10 jump era laptops had a few driver problems, but are solid otherwise. And the build quality has only improved since then. But they are also a bit more on the $$ side. (relatively)
i can highly recomment the Ryzen 7 5800hs RTX 3080 version of this laptop, ive had it a few days and its an absolute BEAST. I was playing Cyber Punk last night on ULTRA setting and it was running so smoothly. Im shocked by the performance
Bought the non i version with the 3060... and boi. The screen is really fabulous. Like... REALLY. I think he forgot to mention the 500nits brightness and vesa cert.
Thanks for bringing the unboxing of the Lenovo legion 7i 2021 I was eagerly waiting for a tech youtuber to bring the unboxing and first impressions of this. I would like to see a full review of this laptop. Please tell me if advanced optimus is working on this laptop or not,I want to know so that I can make my buying decision. Thanks again.
I have the AMD Version running a 3080 *16GB* + Ryzen 9 5900HX, and I would personally recommend getting at least a 3070 with the Legion 7. The Legion 5 / 5 Pro is plenty enough if you want the 3060.
Can I just say, the Lenovo Legion gaming laptops are surprisingly good. Maybe I've just had some luck with the units I get, but I use a Legion 5 as my daily driver and it's been kicking ass for me so far.
ALMOST everything is perfect, really love and enjoy using this masterpiece, nice job Lenovo you got my love for the Legion series, can't wait for the new 2022 legion 7/7i. Btw, the FN+R hotkey is not working on the Legion 7i model, this seems to be a common problem, hope lenovo fixs this soon.
Just got my Legion 7i today with 3080 and i9-11980HK. It beats my desktop 3070 founders edition with i9-9900k in time spy (similar gpu scores, but desktop cpu gets spanked by the mobile cpu). I found the gpu gets pretty toasty topping out at 93c under load in timespy.
Does nobody notice the FULL-SIZE ARROW KEYS on a laptop this size?! Which are actually separated and not intruding into other keys?! This is something I've wanted from my first exposure to a gaming laptop ever!
Serious question, what do you even use the arrow keys for? I’ve never used them and wouldn’t miss them if they were removed totally
Nope, all I saw was that fucking CLICKPAD. This laptop belongs in the trash.
@@ultraL2 You never type text and want to get back and edit something ? For programmers that game, its a must... Editing code without arrow keys would be a pain.
i have a 5 pro and i absolutely love everything about that machine, chassis, keyboard, screen, price/perf ratio it just ticks every boxes for me
@@davidpodeszwa7010 no, I just delete the word or highlight with mouse
However the coding thing makes sense
Lenovo: Show them some high-octane gaming.
Alex: let's see if the machine can handle virtual carrot farming
And when they toss on Doom, he just presses a button and moves on with the preview >_
I've used the legion with a 2060 and Intel i5 10th gen. I've literally run VR games on it without any issues.
😂😂😂😂
Alex, I know you love valheim and you want to use it as a benchmark. But you've shown the FPS time and time again to be very dependent on where you are in the game. Please make a standard house or something you will always use. I can't compare the results of valheim on this laptop to any other laptop you've shown valheim on.
This isn't really a gaming performance review, so you would need to find a seperate video/written review that covers the part selection you are looking for. These numbers don't really mean much if they aren't taken from an average of few runs in the same environment(both in game and with controlled room temp)
For some reason I can't edit my comment. On the end: they won't spend that much time on a proper performance review. That's not the main part of these videos, it's more about hand-on experience.
It was "high octane gaming" tho.
Roblox is a real man's gaming benchmark.. 😁
Maybe you can check *Jarrod Tech's* channel instead for laptop review
"We're getting 98 fps while planting carrots"
Sold 👍
I have the AMD version of this with an R7/3070 and I absolutely love it. Got it on sale for $1699 and it was an amazing deal for what you get.
Same - Legion 5 Pro with 3070 140W. It's fantastic and plays everything at 1440p/60fps.
yea excluding Intel 12th Gen one should really go for AMD CPUs on Laptops!
Where did you buy it
@@ChimpRiot I got the same one you did, love the absolute crap out of it
US prices are a steal, here in Europe we pay more for a 3060 configuration
It's funny how much effort these OEMs put into laptop designs but when it comes to desktop they turn into the Patrick nailing a board to his head meme.
I guess they're giving up on enthusiast-level prebuilt, after a certain level/price I would think people are just building PCs themselves
Nonsense, plenty of thought goes into desktops. But the effort it spent to make them cheaper to mass produce, not something enthusiasts would care about like airflow or upgradeability.
@@myownsite or dual channel memory. i fucking hate when manufacturers cheap out on that.
@@nikoheino3927 I'd honestly rather have a single channel I can upgrade than two 4G sticks
@@myownsite I mean nobody at this point does 2 4gs
Worth to mention that rtx 3060 in Lenovo Legion has power limit set on 130W (some 3060's in MSI laptops are limited to 75W), thanks to that it's really powerful and faster than many laptops with 3070.
Yeah it can outperform a TongFang, just tested it
Omen 15 sets in between of them at exactly 100 Watt I don't know if the 100 watt is enough for it to get all the power it need
I have the 3060 5i with a 11800h, and it absolutely is powerful. It actually does slightly surpass their lower 230w brick, and needs the 300 for Mac performance. I was genuinely surprised and impressed. (Though, jet engines were found in the same room)
Legion 3060 is 115w and can boost to 130w while other 3060s have 75w and can boost to 90w. Nevertheless the legion is still a way better choice.
@@creambread6031 I tried the CyberpowerPC 3060 vs Legion 3060 in between both legion was better (both boost upto 130 watt)
Got a Legion 5 (Ryzen 7 + 3070) earlier this year and I'm still in love with it
Same here,its a beast with a nice display too
What you think about razer blade 14 (3070) build compared to legion
Same but with the 3060, got it last week and I’m absolutely loving it
I hope I will be able to afford something like that in next decade :|
@@LocaLGh0sT just save bro,I upgraded from a 2019 acer predator with a gtx1060,served its purpose but soon had heating issues lol started saving immediately,you can do it man 👊🏽
Rocking a Legion 5 Pro with a Ryzen 7 and a 3070... just perfect, was a legit upgrade replacing my 3yo mid-tier desktop for about the same amount o money I spent on it. The display is fenomenal.
I JUST ordered the exact same build :) Here's hoping it'll live up to expectations
i got Legion 5 with ryzen 5 and 3060 but its still a beast and also same thing, its replacing my desktop right now as gaming machine and because i got from sale it was only 999 euros
Is there a R5/3060 one?
@@Darkxfin ah, I just needed to read a but further
"If you get the non-i model, you get a bit more battery life"
The look on his face, saying that on an Intel-sponsored video, described his thoughts pretty well
I'm having this laptop, non-i with RTX 3080 & r9. I never got more then 2:30 hours of battery life ! If someone is planning to buy this on battery then my suggestion would be don't go for it !
@@vaskarbiswas4614 You're Not supposed to handle such hardware then
@@thewhitepanda60 What?
@@vaskarbiswas4614 You need to enable Optimus (routing the dGPU through the iGPU) to get all that battery life. It allows the 3080 to shut off when not in use, saving a ton of power.
@@vaskarbiswas4614 sounds to me your optimus is off lol
IMO Linus should be making these more of lenovo legion based/videos with out the sponsers, they're a really good laptop series that deserves more attention
@@benisntokay and? If there is a potential video that is just added money on top. No reason for him to not make a video.
@@benisntokay What's the difference between him hosting it or anyone at lmg hosting? As regardless he's the owner of lmg and a investor in framework.
Not saying he would be biased in his reviews due to that but I don't understand how making someone else at lmg do the review solves anything as no one at lmg is going to go against what linus wants to be added to the script.
@@JasperSchwinghammer Yes, and no. It’s kinda cool to see the content, but the “review” is going to come off as disingenuous if you already know that someone else is pulling the strings behind the scenes.
He’s not going to review laptops nearly as much because of this. In fact, there’s barely anything about laptops because there’s just too much on his plate. Cable testing, LTX (Hopefully), Behind the scenes projects, and multiple channels just make the laptop reviews not a huge priority.
If you want independent laptop reviews, Jarrod’s Tech is a good starting point because there’s plenty of other creators besides LMG that are more than capable of filling the role.
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1:34 The numpad is just too useful if you do CAD work.
I actually got this laptop a couple months ago for my aerospace engineering studies, (gaming too of course), so far so good. Had to revert the keyboard drivers after updating it cause the trackpad stopped working, but other than that it’s been a great laptop!
Hi I'm gonna start my Aircraft Engineering and maintenance systems study, do you think I'd need one of these too? (Yes I game too)
I'm having the same issues with my Legion 7i's keyboard. I'm gonna try reverting the driver for the keyboard.
Same here, have the AMD - 3070 model and very happy with it. Love the screen and performance!
@@movinperera Imo you dont necessarily "need" it, but you can benefit alot from it. Alot of engineering software are pretty intensive (solidworks, alot of simulations.. etc) Im in mechatronics engineering so Idk if there's some overlap to aircraft software or not
I think I have the same problem, how did you revert the drivers? my trackpad is acting up
I've had my Legion 7i since September and I absolutely love it. It has everything I have ever wanted in a laptop. I got the maxed out version with a i9-1180HK, RTX 3080, 32GB RAM, and 2 1TB M.2 SSD's.
Had almost the same one with the i7 and 1tb but I returned it’s too much for a laptop
Was your max temps okay? Below 90 Celsius on cpu while gaming?
@@tommypham3241 not op but have the same model. Laptop stays around the mid 60s at best and just below 80 at worst. It's never reached temperatures anywhere close to 90ºC
Mid 30s to mid 40s under light use with Optimus disabled (I keep it plugged most of the time so I don't really need to have it on) and room temperature over 30ºC
Omg you have a beast, I was about to buy that model but it was too much for me, so I ended up buying the legion 5 pro.
I ordered one of these when they first announced it, and waited from july to late october, cancelled it and bought a galaxy book pro 360, built a kick ass NAS, and completely overhauled my home network setup.
I have the older legion i7 9th gen, 2060, 16ram, 1TB nvme that I got for 1.5k about 1.5 yrs ago. It is running like a beast and love it.
Wow, someone was unhappy with the initial cut.
Gotta show it gaming. You gotta have the carrot picking. You can not miss the carrot picking.
And this ending felt so off lmao wtf
The editing is really wack in this video
The fact that DOOM eternal was a 10 second sequence with no fps counter tho
Legion is good stuff, had my Y540-17IRH sporting an RTX-2060 for nearly 2yrs now. Other than the jet engine noise while gaming, I love it. I really wish gaming laptop designers would look into a better cooling solution even if you have to dock it to something.
Is it still performing as good as it did when you first bought it?
@@iihamed711 absolutely, only maintenance I've had to do is blowing the dust out of the fans occasionally
I had my Y530 (with GTX1060), also for about 2 years now. I love it too, until recently I found out that the laptop can't be used for graphic intensive gaming if you have the battery removed. That's the only deal breaker for me, should I have known about it, I wouldn't have gotten this model, other than that, I really love the hinge design & the placement of the IO ports.
just diy liquid cool it like they did to one alienware laptop
Been saving for the Legion, let's hope it's still there when I have enough
Same
There will be better than this, don't worry :)
well me too but, Jarrod told that soon in a few months there could be the new 12th Gen CPU's with DDR5 Ram and maybe the new gen Nvidia GPU's, if not in a hurry, then better the new gen
Same
@@Yakikitsu it will take 9 month until you will be able to buy 12th gen. We just got 11th gen available on some of laptops. Do you think Intel will just keep all the 11th gen cpus and give you 12th? Also the NVIDIA was increasing production of 3000 GPUs and barely catching up on the demand, do you think they will give you 4000 series before they sell out all 3000 series they can?
I love my Lenovo Legion 7, have had it for a year, can do everything i need... gaming/productivity. Only downside is battery life but that's to be expected.
I have this laptop with 3080 and i7 - it’s amazing! Complete replacement of the desktop, with external monitor I mean. I use it with 4K TV for games. I play ALL games on ultra 60hz 4K TV or 1440p 144hz ultrawide 38” monitor and NEVER had any freezings or other problems. Stress tests show this laptop doesn’t throttle at all! Also, due to vapor chamber the laptop is ultra quite most of the time, it is loud when you play games.
I have the Ryzen version with the 3080, im blown away by the performance!
it is hot becuz of 3080 ?
I got the Legion 5 with a similar config (Ryzen 7 5800h and 3060) and its really a great laptop for a professional who wants to game and have a workstation that can keep up with just about anything you throw at it. It feels really premium and the look is fine for an office setting, unlike most gaming laptops.
In a few years: 16:11 gives you even more extra space!
and after that we will go full Circle and come back to 4:3...
Video ends at 12:29. Was there more before?
@@stevenbmeza He's talking about aspect ratio
There are people advocating for 3:2, it's a thing in some laptops focused in office work, but ask for 3:2 on everything would be too ridiculous even for LTT, and they think 10Gbs Ethernet is a deal breaker for more than 0,0001% of the costumers!
Best investment i waited for so long and got it on a flash sale. 0 regrets
I just got a Legion 5 Pro with 3060 and 5800h - it's a beast and very sturdy hinges which I like
The last few years of Legions have been known to tear themselves apart at the hinges, though. They *feel* sturdy, but then they break where they're mounted behind the screen and the laptop is then trash.
@@toddosty time will tell
@@toddosty afaik the new designs are a lot better, especially the 5 Pro and 7
The Lenovo Legion Logo upside down looks preaty much like the Mercedes Star.
I always thought it looks like dark samus' helmet
I really like Alex's reviews because he always portrays the regular consumer that knows stuff, but not really and he just goes with it XD i particularly liked the part of "GPU here presumably, probably a bunch of VRM crap in here", he got me there haha
I got this laptop today, and boy its crazy. Definitely can recommend it!
The white light on the power button means the laptop is in balanced mode. Press fn-q to change to high-performance mode (light will change to red) and then try the games.
Kudos for having full size arrow keys. I wish all laptop makers did that.
those Legion laptops are awesome, still enjoying my Y530
Still rocking a y720 with a GTX1060👌
@@TheCodeTinkerer same here with a y540, Although I am upgrading to a macbook for college soon
That's the thing, I also have a y530 and it's still going strong, there's almost not reason to upgrade.
@@tutracrafty im surprised my 1050ti still packs a punch! finished Cyberpunk, RE Village and Doom Eternal with excellent settings.
@@AlecLeigh my 1050ti is kinda struggling in sea of thieves at cursed settings but it manages 80fps most of the time.
I got the Legion 7 (AMD version) about two weeks ago. Came with the Ryzen 9 5900HX, 165w 3080, 32GB RAM, and 2x 1TB SSDs. I have several thoughts myself for the few people that care (and the Lenovo marketing team that will likely be watching this video/monitoring the comments).
Pros:
o The 165w 3080 is a beast. I have a Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080 FTW3, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, 1x 1TB PCIe 3.0 and 1x 2TB PCIe 4.0 SSDs running off two monitors at home. It's literally about as good as you can get for a homebuilt system short of water-cooling the entire thing. (AIO on CPU, but air-cooled GPU). And... This laptop is about 90% of the way there compared to my desktop. Sure my desktop is definitely better and has two resource-heavy monitors hooked up to it (24" 360hz 1080p and 34" 120hz 1440p ultrawide), but the laptop's screen is no slouch. The gaming is incredibly smooth and I play at almost the same settings on my laptop as I do my desktop with only slightly worse FPS. I've jokingly considered selling my desktop because I could get a bunch of desk space back as well as several grand. This thing is a beast.
o The screen is not as bright or as pretty as the latest MBPs, but it still looks fantastic and is bright enough that I can clearly see what I'm doing outside.
o The size is great. It's basically a 16" gaming laptop in a 15" Thinkbook size. This is great if you want to slip it into the laptop socket pocket of your schoolbag (like I do) as it fits snug, but not tight. It's definitely not as slim as Macbooks or Ultrabooks, but it's also not nearly as clunky as previous gaming laptops I've owned. The 16" screen is awesome for productivity, and even though it throws me off a little when I game with 16:10, the productivity benefits over 16:9 are huge. I didn't think a ration change as small as this and an extra inch of screenspace would make as big of a difference as it did, but I no longer feel like I'm cramming when I have two browsers open to study/write.
o The FN+Q and FN+R hotkeys for turning the system into Quiet/Auto/Performance modes and from 165hz to 60hz are incredibly useful. I'm a student that works a meaningless work-study job and spend 99% of my time watching UA-cam and playing games whilst at work. At school, I can switch it to Quiet mode & 60hz and get 7ish hours of life out of the battery at 75% brightness. When I go to work, I just have to press 3 buttons and plug in the beefy charger and now I have a top-of-the-line gaming machine.
o The charging brick is great. It's absolutely massive, yes, but Lenovo made it to the same height as the laptop chassis with the screen up. So whilst it still takes up a lot of space, it doesn't look as awful as the 3" tall monsters I used to have with ASUS and MSI. The fact that it's 300w is obviously great and of course, you can always just use a GAN charger + USB cable to charge it. The Legion 7i has Thunderbolt 4, so you will do a lot better with the cable, but the AMD version is no slouch and still charges relatively fast without Thunderbolt 4.
Cons:
o Corsair iCue is even worse than you realize and will literally delete your battery life in half the time EVEN IF YOU TURN ALL RGB OFF. Seriously, it's hilariously bad and I'm not sure if it's Corsair's software or Lenovo's hardware integration (likely a little of both), but it's a hilariously bad flaw. Those 7 hours I was talking about earlier? Use the exact same settings with the RGB OFF, but iCue still installed, and I was getting about 2 hours. It's completely unacceptable. I know there are some fixes you can do out there, but I just elected to remove it from the system as a whole. The stock RGB settings with it gone are still more than enough for me.
o The USB-A ports all being on the back make having a mouse/keyboard receiver a pain in the butt. Bluetooth works as well, but the Logitech receiver for my mouse is consistently getting caught on the inside of my backpack. I like the fact that there are 2 USB-Cs on the sides of the laptop, but most mouse/keyboard accessories today still use USB-A, so hopefully, they can put at least one of them on the sides for the next iteration.
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If anyone actually wants to know more, feel free to ask!
I have questions what about hinges? You think they will hold up? Long term value of laptop will hold up or is it better buy Macbook M1 max for long-term if I want resell it? And battery life also will probably die sooner than Macbook
@@ashmaterial I haven't used the new MPB M1Xs, but all Apple products generally hold their value far better than similarly priced competition. So if you're planning on selling it at some point and you won't be limited by MBP software, then I say go for it.
In saying that, the hinges on these are top notch and I don't see them failing from normal use.
Which one i shd go for AmD or Intel for legion7
Rocking a Legion 7 in the 5900HX/3080/32GB RAM/1TB SSD configuration and it is an absolute beast. I have to give props to the wifi 6 card too, that thing was pulling ~900 Mbps downloading from steam.
I have the nearly exact same laptop as this one(Legion 5i, just without the RGB around the side of the chassis)
The only two complain is the huge and heavy power brick, and the Legion lego on the back of my machine glow as bright as a headlamp. It is a brillant laptop
Push fn+L and the rear logo can be disabled.
I got the Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 5800, RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB RAM 3200, 1TB nvme from WD (that I already put another 1TB nvme from WD into it) which I purchased on Linuses Hands on with it (in Februaury I think?) and bought the machine in June this year for 1800€ and I love this beast. I thanked on that video for being informative that I could do a solid opinion of it and make the purchase, and Im going to thank everyone again here for all the informative videos you do on products that enable people to make choices of their own and not get anxiety from all the Marketing bullshit that these corporations are putting out.
1:43: Also:
1. Full size arrow keys
2. Power button separate from the keyboard!
11:45 When you're sponsored by Intel that you are not allowed to mention 'AMD'
I think this is the first time, I've felt that a video uploaded on this channel was just a marketing video, there was no audio comparison, nothing about the webcam. I was hoping for a proper review which is generally done on this channel.
"Even has a numpad, I know some people love those."
This is true.
Ive never seen a LTT video with such a rough cut.
I'm assuming that's because it's double sponsored :/
I just bought this laptop a few weeks ago with the RTX3080, stacked some discounts that I had and was able to get it fully equipped for just over 2k. It's been absolutely worth it, such high quality machine, but the battery life is the worst on it if the gpu is being utilized, however in non-gpu mode you can definitely squeak out about 5 hours or more from it.
One big thing to note about Lenovo is the thermals: after a year of 6 months the fans starting to be clogged up. So don't mind about warranty, just dismount the backplate and clean it yourself. I have the Lenovo Legion Y540 (i7 / 2080Ti) and I needed to re-apply the thermal paste after one year as I was cleaning the fans from dust and nastyness..
Bought a Legion 5 (i7-10750H & GTX 1660 Ti) this year, I know it's a bit last year but heck the performance surprises me. And it doesn't really scream while gaming
2:50 WHICH MAXIMUM WATTAGE VERSION? GOD DAMN!
I have the AMD version of this laptop and I'm an automation controls tech so it's used for programming and graphics editing with a side of gaming and I'm absolutely in love with it.
Nice ad for Lenovo, hopefully we will see unsponsored review soon.
By far the best laptop, super well made and does run cooler and more quit than all the competition. Especially just lifting the laptop off the desk/table with a small stand gaps for ventilation.
I have a Legion Y530 I got in early 2019 and its still rocking strong to this day! I do have a problem with mine that does not seem to be an issue with these, the track pad buttons both broke and make an annoying cracking sound when pressed, other than that small issue, its still running great (8750h + 1050ti)
I bought two Legion 15s for 1100 a piece in December with 2060s, 1tb nvme ssd, 16gb ddr4 3200, and an intel something or another 6core. Also a 144hz IPS panel. Very happy with the purchase. Doesn't look gamery and majority of the I/O coming out the back is amazing. Highly recommend the Legion series.
Thank you for reviewing this product
I have this laptop the AMD CPU & 3080 version and it is amazing! It does everything blazing fast.
Same here! im so happy with the performance. its crushes everything i throw at it
You never talk about the noise of the laptop. I think it's really important to talk about that when you review a gaming laptop.
I like the very sensible very chill review style. +1
"It doesn't have all the gaming looks about it" That massive RGB light strip tho...
You mean the one that can most likely be changed to remain pure white or match the current power mode? I actually have the Legion with the Ryzen 5800H and 3060 with no RGB, and I gotta say even as someone who would not like a flashy gamer laptop I would like a small strip that lit up when my backlight was on, or as I said - matched the blue/white/red on my power button for quiet/auto/high P mode respectively.
And the shape, display placement, vents.
The exhaust at the back is scary right next to the I/0
I have the i5 1650 Ti model , loving for now , installed Linux and regularly game on it !
Got the same Legion 7 early this year but with R7 & RTX 3070 instead. Love number 7 :)
Have they done any other Legion unboxings?
Not that I remember, but I hope more Lenovo laptop first expressions videos!
Returned my Razer 14 3070 5800H for this model, but with 32GB of ram and same GPU and CPU. This will be my first Lenovo machine. I’m pretty stoked for it!
No thermals? No fps benchmarks? Battery life?
Sponsored review?
Come on, gimme a mix of cpu bound and gpu bound games on a chart. Temperatures while stress testing and while gaming. Thermal camera so I know how hot it is to the touch.
I think this information is important to people when buying a laptop, I know it is for me.
Much love.
I own the laptop. I have the i9-11980HK and 3080 version. The thermals are amazing. 70 to 80c on the i9 in games such as Battlefield and Call Of Duty and my 3080 is overclocked and never goes above 70c. The cooling is incredibe for a laptop
@@Darkhalo314 your comment is more informative than this entire “review”
I have the Ryzen 9 5900 HX Version with the 3080, and 1 tb then immediately replaced ram to 64 gb and added another 1 tb m2 ssd and upgraded to windows pro ! ITS a beast of a laptop and it works for everything love it!
I bought ryzen 7 5800H rtx3070 one 3 weeks ago, because it was the only one available in my region. It is absolutely perfect notebook, hope it will last me for at least 5-6 years.
60 fps on rdr2 all ultra 1440p tho
I bought this Legion 7i with RTX 3080 16 Go and 32 Go RAM. Runs very well Flight Simulator on Ultra settings at 30/40 fps. If you lower down to. High settings, you will not lose much in quality but will achieve between 60 -80 fps. I limited the fps not to have a too hot CPU (85 degrees). Really pleased with this Legion. One negative point. Very difficult to open to install a second SSD
For anyone wondering, I messed with last years model i9, 32gb ram, and a 2080. It was able to push 120hz Half Life Alyx on my Oculus Quest.
Have the AMD version with 3060 and love it.
I have the 5900hx, 3080 version of this. Yea its powerful AF. Small and compact too.
Great. Now please review the Lenovo IdeaPad 5/5i Pro and the Yoga Slim 7/7i Pro!
Great consumer laptops that could be compared to the Dell XPS or HP Envy lineup (with the IdeaPad Pro being more of a budget laptop!)
The ax210 with wifi 6E is the best wifi card you can get. I put it in a 7th gen Lenovo laptop and it works great.
I just got a non intel variant and I love it. It has everything I need plus a little more :)
2:33 Dr Potato approves that one.
I was just going through the build options for this laptop and if you choose to upgrade the ssd to 1Tb it automatically upgrades the graphics card to a 3070 with the only other option being the 3080. So if you want the 3060 you have to get it with the 512 gb ssd
I've got the Legion 5 with AMD and 3060, it runs amazing and was the best bang for buck I could find. Highly recommend it, the only downside is battery life, don't expect this to last many hours.
Get yourself into the lenovo legion discord fan community. they have a lot of software tweaks and custom power plans making even the 60w/h battery capable of surpassing 5 hours if you aren't gaming.
I opted for the Legion 5 Pro because of the better display. Indeed, this line of Lenovo is a desktop with a small UPS. It is more than twice as powerful as my old desktop when plugged in and just as powerful on battery.
@@ylandry0783 pro tip spotted
@@ylandry0783 would that be the official one or an unofficial server?
@@LordWout it's unofficial. I don't know if there's an official one.
I have the 3070, 15.6” Ryzen 5800H 1TB version with the normal 165Hz 1080p screen and it fucking slaps. Heavy to carry around still (especially with the charger) but holy hell u get a lot for the money. Got it for ~1500€ on sale and I can hook it up to my external 1440p screen and play Metro Exodus on max settings with ray tracing with ~90 FPS pretty stable. (With DLSS set to balance). P.s. KEYBOARD FEELS AMAZING
Downsides: battery life (5-6 hours at best if u DONT forget to turn off the NVIDIA drivers, which u will always do.) and very heavy to carry
Finaly 16/10 laptops are back, and are puching back 16/9 designed for TV.
I would buy that for sure if I had the money. Maybe next year.
Bought a Legion 5 pro Ryzen 6800h + 3070 ... They'll ship in a month. Got it solely for Display over 5i one as that one didn't ship with the 500nits HDR panel in my country. Plus the battery life too was a consideration as most games aren't CPU bottlenecked anyways and I mostly use it for MS office when I'm not Browsing/gaming/watching videos.
Lenovo always has had that one lineup of gaming laptops, that are great to balance b/w work and gaming and even for engineering students, etc. The Win8 to Win10 jump era laptops had a few driver problems, but are solid otherwise. And the build quality has only improved since then. But they are also a bit more on the $$ side. (relatively)
Got a legion 5 last week and I don't regret it
AYOOO thunderbolt 4 it finally happened
now if Lenovo & Dell actually put this much effort in their desktops
Wish there was a new review on ShortCircuit about the base model Legion 5 and 7 (2021) capabilities... 🤔
wow this laptop and the legion 5 pro looks amazing :O
Benchmark
Linus: Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Alex:
Important to mention that the stock NVME is PCIe 4, the unpopulated slot is PCIe 3. So don't waste your money buying an expensive one for D drive.
If that's Alex's Valheim base, it's sick.
i can highly recomment the Ryzen 7 5800hs RTX 3080 version of this laptop, ive had it a few days and its an absolute BEAST. I was playing Cyber Punk last night on ULTRA setting and it was running so smoothly. Im shocked by the performance
no undervolt, no thunderbolt - Ryzen BAD.
Bought the non i version with the 3060... and boi.
The screen is really fabulous. Like... REALLY. I think he forgot to mention the 500nits brightness and vesa cert.
I have just bought a legion 5, AMD CPU and 3060, this is the laptop for the gamer who don't likes the robot vommit designs.
Just ordered mine with 3080 :) Thanks for informative video.
Thanks for bringing the unboxing of the Lenovo legion 7i 2021 I was eagerly waiting for a tech youtuber to bring the unboxing and first impressions of this. I would like to see a full review of this laptop. Please tell me if advanced optimus is working on this laptop or not,I want to know so that I can make my buying decision. Thanks again.
I have the AMD Version running a 3080 *16GB* + Ryzen 9 5900HX, and I would personally recommend getting at least a 3070 with the Legion 7. The Legion 5 / 5 Pro is plenty enough if you want the 3060.
Can I just say, the Lenovo Legion gaming laptops are surprisingly good. Maybe I've just had some luck with the units I get, but I use a Legion 5 as my daily driver and it's been kicking ass for me so far.
ALMOST everything is perfect, really love and enjoy using this masterpiece, nice job Lenovo you got my love for the Legion series, can't wait for the new 2022 legion 7/7i. Btw, the FN+R hotkey is not working on the Legion 7i model, this seems to be a common problem, hope lenovo fixs this soon.
If you want to save power, just use vantage to go into hybrid mode to use the iGPU...done
Solid heat and power hunger
Just got my Legion 7i today with 3080 and i9-11980HK. It beats my desktop 3070 founders edition with i9-9900k in time spy (similar gpu scores, but desktop cpu gets spanked by the mobile cpu). I found the gpu gets pretty toasty topping out at 93c under load in timespy.
9900K is just a Skylake +++ chip with 14nm ++++.
@@saricubra2867 Still though, 9900K was king of the hill not too long ago, amazing how laptop CPUs have come on in leaps and bounds.
@4:42
Excellent seed planting experience
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Ah yes, watching the review on the laptop being reviewed. Nice
Numpad with dedicated Home and End keys. Stupidly hard to find these days on high end laptops for some reason.
Let's go back to 4:3!
This is a good summary of this gaming device!