10 BEST TIPS AND TRICKS I WISH I KNEW BEFORE LIFTING THE EXCURSION
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Just some helpful tips and ideas, where to get parts, what to look for, rear axle shim info, where to cut the bumper, tire size clearance etc.
1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 Excursion Superduty F250 F350
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Excellent video. No nonsense and tons of extremely valuable information. Thank you!
Thankd
I went with a lengthened front drive shaft, no spacer, I also rounded the bumper to match the wheel well, running 35 with a -43 rim, a 4inch f350 lift with with springs, using factory f350 rear block and add a spring to rear, I did have to use a wedge for angle. lifted my girl almost 7inch. only change was I had to press out the rear shock upper bow tie clamps for excursion and press them into the the new shocks from the f350 kit, saved huge on having to buy an excursion kit, for some reason they are much more expensive
Great info! I'm a veteran Jeeper but new to the Excursion . My rig has 37x12.5 too and appears to have the rear lift you mentioned with the extra block, however, I believe the previous owner put f350 axles on it with front coils. The rear sags and is bouncy so I'm hoping the 6" procomp leaf spring can level it out and soften the rife for the kids in the back. Lol.. looks like I found 00-05 excursion/ 99-07 super duty procomp 6" rear leaf springs.. gonna order them today.. hope they do the trick
They are much better than the block and helper spring lift that's on it now. I think you'll be happy. Mine was really hard too.
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 thanks brother 💪 subbed
I'm only going for 4" and 35s but thus is great video.
Thanks
Thanks dude. Lifting an 05’ now
Fantastic video with helpful info. Is there a kit that actually comes with everything needed you mentioned? Like drop pitman arm, sway bar drops, etc.?
Yes but its hit or miss and you have to know what you're looking for. They will also jack up the price after they put the kit together for you.
Wish there was a build list. I'm wanting to lift my 04 ex right now!
That's probably a good video to make... I'll work on that this winter.. do a piece by piece list video
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 I need the list now lol
@@mattrobinson1727 how many inches of lift you want
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 idk I have 22x12 wheels with -44 offset haven't decided tire size, thinking 35x13.5, 35x14.5, 37x13.5. Also I have a full ranch hand bumper.
@@mattrobinson1727 I think as long as your front springs move the center pin forward you should be fine with a 6. The wider the wheels the more they want to rub the front fender..
1) front lift springs
2) rear lift springs
3) track bar drop bracket
4) sway link drop bracket
5) drop pitman arm
6) leaf bump stop extensions
That's it! I would call the company you want to get front springs from and make sure they shift the axle forward. Superlift 7" used to list specifically that they move it forward but it doesn't say that anymore so I'm not sure you'll have to call. Usually cheaper to buy the separate pieces from ebay.
Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.
Disagree, 4 link is better for articulation generally speaking but for on road use leafs are cheaper, simpler, more reliable, and stronger. I dont see them ever getting replaced on the rear axle of heavy trucks
I went with 6” F250/350 rear springs from pro comp, no blocks all spring and 4” F250/350 Pro Comp in the front. A 6” pro comp drop track bar mount and pitman arm. Adjustable length front and rear sway bar end links from Summit Racing. F250/350 rear sway bar and 33” inch tire on 10” wide wheel, front tire contacts inner wheel well just enough to rub but not rub through. 1” forward on the pin would cause front bumper contact for sure with this lift set up.
Yes they got you on the front springs! On these trucks you always have to shift the center pin forward.(that was the good part about using superlift front springs they shift forward 1" I was running 37s with zero rub) I know you think it would rub on the front but the part it rubs on is the front plastic air valance which can be very easily and neatly trimmed and it looks great. As soon as we get decent weather here (within a week or so) I will be making a simple custom plate to move my axle forward another inch as I now have 40" tires and they just barely rub my inner fender liner. So you may want to hit that subscribe button to see it when the video drops.
I love how good ur lift kit looks where is sits a little lower in the front looks perfect not like these d bags that have the front sit high that looks like garbage
yep. I like level lifts all well. They originally did a front high on my Excursion and I hated it. Switched it to a level lift
@blumac9801 thanks for commenting back you have a beautiful excursion I love how urs sit looks very very nice
Drop pitman arm is a must. On 4invh lift or more. And dont go over 35" tires with a dana 50, or youll be rebuilding every couple years or less
How about 40s? lol
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Ive been told by a few the dana 50 doesnt last long on any bigger tire than 35. But prob depends on if you actually 4x4 offroad or its just along for the ride. Havent experienced it myself but buddies have.
@@cerwin21 it's fine unless you are in 4wd low and flooring it. Rock climbing in 4wd low would probably also break it. Regular use for on road + beach sand + snow it'll be fine though. If I wanted to mud or rock climb I'd definitely get something lighter than 7000 lbs
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Good to know
Very well explained
Thank you
My wheels rub on those front leaf spring clamp toward the rear. Have you ever see that issue? 35x12.5r20
yes! on some of these the clamp is facing with the nut on the outside where the tire can hit it because the bolt sticks through too far. If that is the case then you can trim the bolt or take it out and reverse it. If that will not give you enough clearance then you must be on stock wheels with the 35s.. needs to get aftermarket wheels with proper backspacing. I run 10 wides.
@buildsomethingstupid1736 it's aftermarket 20s but I think the backspacing must be close to stock. I ended up drilling and taping the steering stop for the time being. Preciate the videos I don't find many people working on these older vehicles.
And the moral of the story is, don't lift your excursion over 4 inches and you will not have all these issues.
Would it be possible for you to take a measurement from Center of the hub to wheel arch for me? I'm thinking about using the same springs on my EX my current skyjacker ones really sag when I hook up to a trailer. How does she ride loaded and unloaded? Any regret going with these springs? I love the stance you have with these - one of the the best stances I've seen. usually the rear looks like its lower than the front.
I can take a measurement for you if needed, mines a 2000 with a 4 inch lift
Sorry for some reason older videos don't trigger notifications I'll measure shortly
Looks great
I like those headlights!
Kenny thanks for the video. I have a question about your pinion angle of the front axle. Yours look pretty in line with your drive shaft. Did you role the axle tube forward/up or did it just end up that angle with your lift? Mine is rolled down compared to yours. Thoughts?
Mine is rolled down a bit relative to the shaft. I had to manually reverse the shims on the bottom of the spring pack. I have another video about driveline angles that may help you.
Without proper differential angle at that lift height with no modification to front axle, you’d have terrible steering and poor handling. It would be steering the wheels downward with improper caster angle.
@@williamdecamp7343 that's why the new springs come with an angle shim. Ideally you want the differential to sit at the exact same angle as it did before relative to the truck frame. And you can purchase a front driveshaft spacer (I have a video about it)
@@williamdecamp7343 and as far as handling goes, the key is a track bar drop bracket that Is the correct size for your lift. As long as the steering bar and track bar are very close to parallel the handling is great. (And always keep your sway bar by using a drop bracket if you're mostly on road)
I have a BDS 8” lift kit and have the same issues with the Front tires rubbing who do I call for the center pin fron leaf springs
Google "zero rate add a leaf". They sell a plate to shift the axle forward 1"
Where can I get the front drive shaft spacer
Procomp or amazon
Did you do anything with your bumpstops? Extensions? Bigger ones? Maybe some FOA hydraulic bump stops in the works?!
I didn't, I technically should make a bracket to lower it 8" to match my current lift height (I now run 40s). If it were a pickup truck and I was towing a lot and carrying weight in the bed It would be a priority but I doubt this would ever hit bump stops without carrying a big trailer and hitting a big bump.
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Thanks for the response! I'm piecing together a lift using the information you've provided here. I'm missing bump stops so i gotta lift it to fix it :D. Sounds like some 2in F-O-A bump stops might fit in there perfectly!
Great video bro good information
I have a 5 inch superlift on my 2000 excursion and it came with 4 inch tapered rear blocks, I have vibration around 60mph, and the taller is in the front, I installed a 4 degree shim thinking it needed more angle and seems to be worse. I'm thinking about going to straight blocks, any thoughts?
How many inches is it from the top of your tires to the bottem of your wheel well vertically? I have an 02 f 250 with 35s on 17x10. Im thinking of 37s next
My truck is up to 40s now, do you still want the measurement?
I just got my excursion lifted 6”. The front is about 4” taller than the rear. The shop I used told me the lift they used was for a diesel 4x4 and my truck is a 4x4 gas engine. The leaf springs they use for the front made it higher about 10” instead of the 6” said on the lift. Any ideas or feedback?
2000 excursion with 5.4 engine 4wd.
Yeah complain to the shop repeatedly and try to make them put on different front springs. That ain't right
Make sure they don't have a block left in there with your new Springs
Also, the 5.4 engine is half the weight of the 7.3 so the springs will give you more height
I can’t find that bracket for the endlinks in the rear for my sway bar
rear sways are aftermarket
Hey Kenny I have an 2wd excursion and I want to lift it a least 6 inches does 4wd kit is different from 2wd?
Or what is the difference?
Yeah its probably different, I dont even know what the front wheel setup looks like on a 2wd. The back is the same though
@@juliosantiago2848 2wd excursions are coil spring front end instead of leaf springs, either coil spacer or longer coils with shocks
I just want to know about the running boards.
Factory
Great Info! Thank you
How much did you lower the carrier bearing?
I would put a heavy duty steel bumper with a winch on this and take care of your clearance problems
I don't have any clearance problems, but if you wanted maximum tire size with minimum lift, then using cut out fender flares is the best thing you can do, 40s will fit with stock height. The steel aftermarket bumper can be helpful in a some scenarios. 1) you must have already lifted the vehicle with forward pin shift 2) you must want tires too big to fit in the lift 3) you don't want to use cutout flares. Without shifting the front axle forward your tire will hit the rear of the front fender before hitting the front bumper
Where does the spacer go
I'm planning a 3 inch do I need the sway bar? I have seen them for 4 and above but haven't seen any for 3inch. I found the track and pitman for a 2-4.
No i think you can get away with a 3"
Do you have a video on how you modified the updated mirrors?
No yet but I might make a video and pull them off to show yall. The stock ones looked stupid, you 02 and older excursions you don't have wiring for a blinker but 03 and up the wiring it right there and its plug and play for the built in.
Great video 👍🏻
Great vid! I have an '05 with about a 6" lift on it and I bought it like that... I will be checking some things out on the lift to make sure that tips you gave are in place! Thank YOU!
P.S. What light package do you have on the front?
There's an install video on the headlights I made. They are Spyder. Which I think got bought by someone now.
Hi. What are the dimensions for the cargo space behind the 3rd row? Thanks in advance!
Alot almost 3ft. Ill try and measure for you. Much bigger than new expedition els
How many degrees are your axle shims ?
What are you using for wheel backspacing. I'm running 315/70/17s and it rubs my springs. I have procomp front springs and pmf trackblock rear.
does it rub both springs? could be a pan bar adjustment issue if it only hits one of them
If your running factory wheels thats the issue, i have standard 10" wide wheels
Did you not have to get longer brake lines for the front wheels?
Nope they are stock, you can unbolt the mount and bend the bracket to give alot more slack which eliminates the need for aftermarket extended lines.
So how much am I looking to pay to have a shop lift an excursion. I have a lifted f150. Looking to get an excursion an lifted it
Varies wildly
I’m buying an Excursion This weekend with plans of lifting it with an 8 or 10 inch lift, But after watching this video I am concerned I do not know anything about vehicles let alone anything about a Lift I called my near lift shop they did tell me they could lift it my question is do they know what to look for so I don’t run into any trouble
Dont let them stack blocks
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Thank you for replying so long story short I ended up going with a 6 inch lift. Because I really like the way your excursion looks and sits, but I’m not satisfied with my 6 inch fab tech suspension lift, it doesn’t seem as high as yours what can I do to get some more height on my 6 inch Fab Tech suspension lift? is there any options for me? That you can recommend?
@@joseceja8932 My lift is 7" front and 8" rear. If you want to get the additional inches I would measure the block they used in the rear and order one 2-3" taller, get the welded/fabled blocks with built in bump stop not the cheaper cast blocks.. then for the front I would order a front 3" "mini leaf lift" this looks like super short leaf springs which mounts under the existing springs where a block would go to get the extra inch or two. They have multiple leafs so you can unbind them and add only as many as you want. Good luck
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 thank you so much you are awesome. In someway I’m so happy with my truck but in some ways I’m disappointed that no one out here in Arizona could get me an 8 inch lift but I really appreciate your support and help thank you for all this information. FYI I went out and measured the rear block and it measures 3 inches I also measured from top of front tire to body that measures 8 inches measured from top of the rear tire and that measures 7 inches (rear). I hope I can get someone out here in AZ to help me out. I invested $7000 on this whole set up just want to get it right
Can you recommend me some brands for the 3” leaf springs and rear blocks, please?
Could you post your lift kit components ?
Superlift:
Front 7" Springs(modified see other video in my channel)
Track bar drop bracket 6-8"
Front sway bar drop bracket
Pitman drop arm 6-8"
All 4 shocks
Pro Comp:
Front driveshaft spacer (see video for details)
Rear 6" f250 lift leaf springs (8" on excursion)
Grid 20x10 GD05 wheels
Toyo R/T 37x12.5 Tires
Sorry if you've already answered this but what offset are your rims?
-25 and I do not run spacers. I did slightly reduce steering radius to prevent rubbing on the leaf springs. With my axle shifted forward and 8" of lift in the front I could probably rub spacers now if I wanted
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 thanks for the response, that's awesome because that's the offset I was wanting to run so that helps a lot
Did you regear with the 37s?
No I didn't, but mine has 4.30s from the factory. I may regear now that I have 40s
So if I buy a 3inch rc lift it’ll actually be a 5 inch lift?
If you bought a 3" lift for an f250 yes. If you buy a 3" for am excursion no.
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 thanks bro. I have a 2000 excursion 135,xxx miles v10 and wanting to lift, only thing that’s holding me back is mph will decrease
@@wetbread9487 fuel mileage may decrease by a fraction of a mpg, but usually the "observed" decrease is due to the speedometer being off due to larger tires. Once you correct your math for the tires I only lost maybe 1/2 mpg.
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