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Yeah... I don't know if K would have saved Etika. But I do think he would have helped him out A LOT. Maybe that in and of itself would have been enough. A guy who takes everyone's mental illness seriously. Regardless of the things they have done and or said. I really do believe that as close minded as it might be.
@@calin6327 alright no it isnt tbh. we all miss him but hes been gone for a while now, talking about things that could of prevented or helped him isnt wrong or off the table. if anything we should of talked about this while he was still here.
Callmecarson donating 10k at the end of the stream is the biggest Chad energy. Edit: guys he donated the money to the Healthy Gamer mental health coaching program, NOT to Katerino, chill.
People here being opposed to improvement. He said 'thanks for helping her', because he wants her to be a better person. Shaming him for wanting a person to become better is the pettiest shit. The human race is fucked if we keep such negative attitudes.
@@Novenae_CCG I agree that the people callling him a simp are retarded, but i don't think this will have a significant impact on the human race. Retarded people and internet will always be a thing.
Carson is one of the smartest and strongest people around dude. He donated 10k to a great dude who's job is helping people. Dr K helped Kate for sure in this stream. It kinda showed people that kate is a human too. Carson is probably past being angry at her. Most likely just sad and disappointed by the situation and knows everyone involved got hit including kate. The donation is just pure king shit. Forgivness is not simping people
I don't understand peoples insane burning hatred for people that cheat. Is it a shitty thing to do? Yes. But treating someone who cheated as "subhuman trash" is so wild to me.
i think the reason why she's laughing so much, interrupts dr.k a lot and isnt focused is because she's really anxious even when she said she's relaxed her defense mechanism is like on high gear (for people who think she's disrespecting dr. k when that's really not the case)
yeah i can relate to this whenever i talk about personal stuff i do the exact same thing where my mind is racing and im constantly giving an explanation for everything i say or do and laughing and when i was younger that would also include stuttering. So yeah i think you hit the nail on the head. She comes off as eccentric but im sure she doesnt feel too good about it.
I agree. I think Dr. K was actively trying to not laugh at any of her jokes because doing so would just reinforce that defence mechanism. The dude is out here with these big brain psychological moves lol
Timestamps: 00:00 introductions 07:30 Cheating & Mental Health 17:29 the relationship, vaginismus, emotions 29:30 Sexual abuse, depersonalization 40:29 Grandfather passed away, childhood 1:03:50 emotional processing, absence of anger, self-love 1:29:20 Meditation 1:45:50 Outro 1:52:10 Thank you, it’s ok to not love yourself 2:00:40 Thank you CallMeCarson, Sprim9189, Knightvision91
I have been cheated on before. Never in a million years would I want that person who cheated on me to be harassed or to be treated as an irredeemable villain their whole lives. I am glad that they too are seeking help and bettering themselves.
My friend was cheated on and decided to get back with her, cheat, and leave her. Do u think he did the right thing? I feel like she deserved it for playing with his emotions but it was a bit too far. Should he apologise?
@@Urmom-if5nc I think he wasted his and her time. Revenge is petty and silly, he should've used that time on moving on from her and betting himself. I hope both your friend and his ex use their time more wisely in the future.
More than that they need to fucking get their priorities right. Like taking interest in their own life instead for starters. But if seems like people live through others on the internet today and that's just... beyond sad.
Its interesting when two people accidentally speak at the same time and then both pause its almost the exact same pause duration before they speak again.
CallMeCarson donated $10,000 "Thank you for helping her." I'm glad he doesn't hold ill will towards her even after what happened. Not necessarily for her sake but his own. He seems like a good person.
@@DeuPKay I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or a kid. You'll get it one day dude. Sometimes you gotta spare your own sanity by staying away from people that hurt you before.
Ngl at first i gave a lot of smoke for the situation but this interview rlly opened up my eyes on how she has her own problems. Also made me realised not to judge anyone from face-value... good job Dr K
Sound guy here: it was a big MISTAKE turning up the gain on your microphone. You pushed the input gain into distortion. In fact, you audio is always distorting on your videos. Look up "audio clipping", "gain staging", and also "vocal compression" seeing as you tend to sometimes increase your vocal volume very much, in sudden bursts.
Hey man :) Maybe if you send him a DM you can help him out via discord 1 on 1 :) Only if you want to of course! I think DR. K needs a bunch of help perfecting his streaming set-up x)
Dr. K's knowledge is futile in this matter. I guarantee you, there is no helping this woman. Take it from me and the small but enlightening handful of dating NIGHTMARES I've experienced, these types of girls rarely if ever, change.
@@ChristUponus That is as ridiculous as saying vaccines are ineffective because there are SOME people that they don't work on. Of course some women can't be helped, but it is ridiculous to make a sweeping statement and assert that these type of women cannot be helped based on your personal experience with them.
@@ChristUponus Also, you said they "rarely, if ever, change," which implies that, in your eyes, there is still a possibility of them changing. If that is true, Dr. K's expertise is NOT futile. In your eyes, there is a chance of her changing, and so people SHOULD try to help her.
@@ChristUponus LMAO are you really saying that to a harvard psychologist who is professionally trained to help people mentally by talking shit about his knowlege being futile?
@Turquoise Cheetah shes being forced to do it by witch hunting assholes like you. If she doesn't give her full story everyone online will continue to hate her because they don't understand. What is your problem.
I forgave her the moment she said "Vagina broken. Don't work". I laughed way too hard. In all seriousness, I've been hurt by cheating a lot and I won't lie, I judged Katerino in the same way I judged those who hurt me. I realize now that was wrong, and I found she was actually fairly similar to me in some ways when all I wanted to do was silently judge her. I'm glad I saw this. It opened my eyes to not being so quick to judge based on my past experiences.
This was a good stream. How often do you get to hear this in depth about the mind of a perpetrator of a scandal? It's incredibly illuminating and reminds us of the humanity even in 'bad' people Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying whether or not Katerino deserves forgiveness, or whether or not she is a bad person. I don't have any power to make that judgement, neither do I care to. I just really appreciate the perspective.
Indeed. I really wanted to hear her part of the story in this - in order to understand her and people that can be unfaithful in relationship, their motivations, inner state and history.
Her laughing throughout the whole thing really got to me. I can see how laughter is her shield to not crying. Holding everything in that’s happened to her. People can do bad things, but I truly believe many deserve second chances. Unless if there Hitler.
It's great to see how much Dr. K has changed people. If someone laughs when they're nervous, they usually get called emotionally immature or "unready to talk". This comment section is the best thing to come out of UA-cam so far. You may get passively judged but they will never openly drag you down because they know what you're going through. Amazing stuff :^)
Is it just me or her talking a lot, jumping from topic to topic, talking with rich and vibrant vocabulary is some sort of defense mechanism? Every time Dr. K. pressed gently on a serious issue, she immediately ran away into "storytelling" territory where she talked and talked and in the same time, mentally separating herself from emotions and feelings. It felt like Dr. K was chasing a bunny through a complicated maze, and every time one would think that Dr. K. "had" her pinned against the wall she managed to get away from his grasp. And when he finally "had" her during meditation, calmed her down and had her focused on one hard memory she was legitimately scared. I know jackshit about psychology but I don't think she had dealt with everything on an emotional level. Her brain processed everything, she definitely put a lot of thought into her past, her abuse, her papa dying, her recent cheating, but I don't think she's emotionally ready to deal with everything she lived through. It's good that she's seeing a therapist, she will definitely need some help with that.
It could be a defense mechanism, it could also be that she has so many years of unproccessed thoughts and emotions all bottled up that whenever she does open up, the dam kinda bursts and it all comes flooding out at once, thus making it very scattered, unfocused, rambly and a bit chaotic. It's also possible that because focusing in on one memory makes her scared as you put it, she then has to move quickly from topic to topic as to avoid lingering in one place and feeling that fear, which is understandable.
i think your observation is valid. she uses her laughing as defense mechanism and she does it a lot. shes not relaxed and she certainly spends a lot of energy for just being okay.
Fibbles OH MY GOD I GET YOU SO HARD, that happened with my adhd too, one og my therapists tried to talk about stuff that i was really sensitive to and i tried to talk about other stuff and then i just left.
@@blew1t chances are, you'll learn more than you need to know about dicks and vaginas, by virtue of being on the internet. On the other hand, if nobody forces the quadratic equation down your throat, you'll never even hear of it.
@@alfreddelatourquipenche8287 i dont think that holds true for every adolescent though, i feel like very few teens or whatever go into their sex life with the amount of info needed for it to be, uh, graceful. usually it's awkward. and i mean obviously the main point of sex ed is to teach kids about safe sex, but i think it could also help decrease awkwardness arising from sexual misinformation, or just lack of information, and i think that'd be especially helpful for people with vaginismus, because i'd imagine young men that aren't informed about that would be weirded out and it would just be a bad experience. maybe that sort of thing isn't worth spending much time on, but if there's gonna be sex ed lessons anyway, might as well briefly cover the bases of some common sexual conditions, because as kate said it's fairly common, some estimates say as many as 6% of women experience it
This was really eye opening in a lot of ways. I relate to Kate in a lot and watching this made me realize how much I struggle with Disassociation and Depersonalization in my own life. I had no idea she was sexually abused as a child and had been through so much trauma in her life. Nothing justified what she did but it is definitely insightful.
In case anyone is in some sort of doubt about the dementia part, that part is so accurate. My own grandad went through it, and my brother and mother are working in aged care (70% of the facility have dementia) and I visit to help them sometimes. Yeah, families can be torn apart by it. The best friend grand dad breakdown I've personally seen twice, some of them forget the people they see everyday and I've had the same story about my real name about a hundred times. Its heart breaking to see someone just forget everything about themselves. And its not forgetting temporarily, they lose the memory permanently. I've seen people forget their spouse's face, and talk to them about them without knowing why the spouse is crying. Dementia is fucked up, if you think she wasn't being genuine about that, I'm gonna say you never had someone have this kind of breakdown in front of you. This is her breaking down, even if its not the media depicted way, in this I can say she is honest.
In the comments section you can see the real biggest plague in history happen, drama addiction, that's the world boss of mental health. Those people are beyond hope.
I'll never understand how these people get so emotionally involved in other people's relationships. Felt the same way when the Doc had his scandal. What a waste of energy.
junayd mohammed they’re a lot more drowned out but you’ll mostly find them in the replies to comments where people are just pointing out (not excusing) that trauma can lead people to doing fucked up things such as cheating
@@jlann8243 true, but why give aF about when? If anything it was the right time to do it... he was directly affected by her mental issues and that's him showing he wants more resources to go towards such issues. People really on here bitter like the bitch cheated on y'all 😂😂
I respect Kate for seeking help, being open and honest, and trying to understand herself. I'm going through a similar situation (didn't cheat on 7 people or whatever) where I need to understand myself and my problems to move forward, so I respect that a lot.
I know very little about this whole drama thing with Katerino, only that she received A LOT of hate. I'm sorta glad I'm going into this without an opinion of her. This should be interesting
@Jeff B and males. I've found myself in negative moral situations where I've slept with one women that I obviously led to believe we were exclusive and things where leading to a serious relationship and still sleep with one or two other women. I know it's wrong and I find myself quite uncomfortable thinking about it. I'm quite good looking and that's what I've been told by many people throughout my life. I feel like it's part of my identity to be successful with women. Also I feel like the need to mate is strong in this one.
I've been dealing with a metric ton of bottled up emotions during this quarantine, and your channel has actually helped me to shed some light on what i'm feeling. Thank you Dr. K. , you're doing something amazing with your channel.
I can relate to her "depersonalisation". When I got too much going on and feel like things are slipping out of my control I kinda just check out and cruise along. It doesn't make anything better or less urgent, but I can ignore it easier until pressure gets too much and I feel like I swallowed hot lead, or whatever I was ignoring catches up with me and bites me in the ass. Can be really tough to get out of a rut like that but I'm getting better at forcing myself to do unpleasant things that need to get done. Even doing smaller stuff like cleaning etc helps me stay ontop of more important things like taxes, work, relationship maintenance or physical health.
For me, depersonalization is like when I do certain things, and convince myself that someone else did it, not me. Like I had times in my life where I would act completely opposite to my values, as if I were acting for a different life and not my own. So even though it's messed up, it's still an actual thing that can happen to some. It also makes people feel wrongly justified to do something wrong, just because "it's not me that's doing, it's another side of me. I guess an easier way to explain this is in acting, when you play certain parts, you get too emotionally into the part. You become an entirely different person in that moment. And somethings you just feel in that moment because you are supposed to feel it, not because you necessarily do(example: losing a loved one in a play that you are part of and acting that part out). That's what depersonalization feels like to me. I worry that this kind of personality is sociopathic and detached though.
to people saying that Katerino should have gone offline: I think that would go against the point of healthygamer to help others (in this case where the interviewee is comfortable with it being broadcasted). people watching on twitch might not know this channel on yt, and some may connect with these discussions (maybe not with cheating, but maybe with discussions on vaginismus, self-acceptance, defense mechanisms, and grieving). even if it were for clout, the fact that healthygamer can bring these topics to light and educate viewers is more important than the intent of the interviewee imo.
as well as the fact that, she shouldn't be forced to not talk about things publicly or not allowed to stream because she makes a mistake. she has owned up to it and knows she is at fault of it.
@@LittleB1RDY definitely. I feel that this also makes more sense than my original comment. I think that, even in the case that discussion on stream may not be applicable to the audience, interviewees should feel free to speak publicly with Dr K if they choose to.
She's such a colorful person. I love her "bubbly, extroverted" personality and I'm so sad for her, there's so much pain. I personally relate to her, I currently am figuring myself out and whether I also suffer from depersonalization.
This channel really can show the real type of people they are. Even if some people are controversial, at the end of the day, they're human. As long as they move on.
Idk about you guys but i see a mess of a girl who wanted some momentary satisfaction in the past and now has to face not only the consequences of her actions but the trauma she suffered from the past. Right now the last thing she needs is more bashing, she is already unstable, doing that wont help her.
Same people who love Etika will still bash her. They don't give a fuck about people if they're bashing her for something that has nothing to actually do with them. Twomad leading by example, for example. People are just going to keep killing themselves after being bullied and shit and afterwards people will pretend to be sorry. Shit is wild.
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm Etika was good person though，and through her bad decisions - she is objectively a bad one. We can understand her pain and the nuances of her character but I don't think she should be so easily forgiven since she'll never undo the damage she's done. Some people went to far with her but at the end of the day，she isn't hurt by anyone，a death threat is just another hater who probably has issues like her. So why are we forgiving aweful things she's done to Carson while she gets hate messages that's common online. Seems very inconsistent if we forgive her becuase “she has issues”. Shit we can say that about the people who say mean things to her too
kjfdsjknfjkna fknsdlfnla He said the people that say they miss Etika were the same people harassing her. Also are you saying just because it’s common means it’s right?
@@quantum7495 even if it isn't right doesn't undo the bad things she's done. Some people went too far with harrassing her and they're wrong for that. All I'm saying is that her negative actions deserve critism and can't be forgiven so easily because some people are assholes like her.
I mean they're slightly different. Disassociate is you kinda seperate from the situation you're in and everything happening, depersonalization is a step further in which you seperate from yourself. Your identity and your feelings stop being yours completely.
to be fair they probably know the dislikes aren't against Dr K or HealthyGamer, and it still makes the video more popular. I definitely feel like the hate she's getting is waay out of proportion too tho
@jeffB Katerino was dating 2 men at the same time (the boyfriend she mentions, and IWillDominate) she then messed around with a few other men, making it seem like she was interested in one, and none of these men knew about each other, and no one knew she was dating anyone. Thats the gist, but I’m sure there are a TON of videos covering it, it’s the big drama of twitch
The rant at the end put a lot of things in perspective for me I’ve been feeling so broken for the past year because I’ve started to realize how my brain/anxiety works against me. I haven’t been able to get proper help so I feel like I’m broken until I can But I’m 18. I have my whole life ahead of me. This isn’t the end I know I’ve dumped a lot of comments on this video, but I feel like I have to. If Dr. K or someone on his team happens to read them, then I know that they may feel like their hard work to spread this information is working. And if some other kid in the same situation as me sees this comment, then they’ll know they aren’t alone
Carson: Donates 10k during a stream with his ex who cheated on him with several people jake paul: Loots during a protest under the guise of a dead man he doesn't even know the name of
I'm glad Kate did this. Yeah, what she did was a very bad thing and she has to take responsibility for hurting people. But there were people going just a bit too far with it. If you see her as a person and you hear her experiences you sympathize with her on a human level and it's harder to be so cruel to someone who made a really bad choice like we all do at some point.
TheManOfPeace999 me tooooo! Katie is so real & been through so much. She’s been hurt & hurt others yet she is growing so much. I felt her pain & my own pain. I am not a gamer or streamer & honestly not part of the twitch community but my son is & he grinds so hard & is growing so fast. He’s been playing since he was 10 but seeing what he has been through, dealing with toxicity & just plain jealousy has been hard for me to see & watching him have to deal with all of that at such a young age was very difficult & frightened me at times! He had threats, his account hacked, stalkers & people threatening suicide He spent hours talking to people & talking them out off suicidal intentions but at the same time he’s received great support & made some awesome friends. The thing I find so hard is all the judgment of others! Who are we to judge others? No one is perfect & we don’t always know another persons life or situations. Anyone can be mean but it takes a special person to be kind. These streams have been amazing for me to watch & understanding truly what the gaming community go through. Love to you all 🥰
He seeking help from a professional outside of the public eye. He doesn't really have a need for this, and I don't think hes the type to really want it online either
It's interesting that so many streamers that I've seen, when they start to get "real", they assume the audience is bored by that. In turn, the streamer feels this need to return to their streaming persona - where all the audience wants is for the streamer to continue being the real version of themselves. We the audience will even explicitly tell the streamer this, and yet the streamer refuses to believe it.
i hope she continues to get help. she really seems like a sad person and i think this therapy will really be good for her. (before you call me a simp: i am a homosexual male. jfc.)
What stuff like this always reminds me of, is that every bad thing a person does or every "bad" person has a story and a reason why things are like they are. I think understanding that and thinking about this in certain situations helps to keep your mental clear and calm.
No, as Dr. K also said, sometimes it's not as black&white and people just do bad because they can and nothing else. It's dangerous to think that everything can be justified somehow.
It's scary how many girls get sexually abused. Like every other girl that I get close to has been raped or touched when they weren't ready. Fuckin' scares me for the day once I have a daughter. I literally had to hit up one of my friends after this just to see if she was okay.
That was really a powerful episode! I asked myself a lot of questions and did a lot of work on myself during this show. Props to Kate for coming on during this time
Most often I've found is it's just miserable people finding any excuse to be misogynistic. This whole thing with Carson and Kate wouldn't have happened if it was the other way around. People would have been giving Carson a pass and still end up treating Kate poorly. It's fucking gross.
@@ticklord i dont think you have any ground to stand on when you say that. These Internet celebrities have to face being canceled every day because of a comment they make so to say that everyone would just give him the pass is stupid and shows your lack of knowledge on that matter that in front of us. People arent being mysogynistic by going after someone who cheats, they are punishing the person for cheating, its the same way you would dislike and shame a person who cheated on lets say your friend. People go on these witchhunts as they believe the creator who got wronged is there friend and therefore they feel as if they are entitled to protect and defend them. Its not mysogynistic or anything along those lines. Its simply protecting/defend someone you care for. Dont use misogyny as a way of describing this as anyone who has been on the internet for quite a while would know that no matter what gender you are, you are always at risk of being cancled. Id like to state also that cancel culture is terrible and stupid in case i came off as if i thought overwise.
@@ticklord WHAT?? So because a woman gets hate for cheating on 5 different guys that is misogynistic? Albert cheated on Lily and he will never have a chance to go live like she does ever again, she immediately got people subbing and donating again. That is fucking gross.
@@ticklord Now that's the stupidest shit I've heard in a long time. Don't bring your politics into this shit please. Doctor Disrespect is memed to death even on his own streams for what he did and there's an emote called ForsenCD (that refrences him) that people use whenever some talk of cheating happens. No one's getting a pass for anything so throw your bs politics out of here. I do agree that it's miserable people who witchhunt and it's not right but at the same time what Kate did is just as gross as what you're describing. She shouldn't be treated like human trash at all times (especially when she's getting therapy) but she's also not entitled to any sort of respect. She'll earn the respect and the trust of others when she A. Improves herself and B. Makes up for her inhuman actions.
I had a similar thing happen with a girl who experienced the same things and was equally charming. It took a few years to get over but people react to trauma in strange ways and we cant hold it against them forever unless its murder or something as heinous .
I find it interesting how this 2 hour video has already that many dislikes after being uploaded for like 10 minutes.. kinda makes me question why some people even watch these as they don't really dislike what has been said in these videos but just dislike the person who getting interviewed for what they might have done in the past.
@Free Ochido well the same goes for likes but its just interesting how people have a certain perception of the person being interviewed and instantly hit dislike. I personally dont watch katerino and only heard about her after the whole carson drama but whatever call me a beta if you like to do so
First things first *WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO BEFORE GOING IN THE COMMENTS SO YOU DONT GET INFLUENCED* At first this video was really hard in the beginning for me to watch. I knew the news about her and everything she just said acted and did just pissed me off. I went in already with pre conceived notions and really thought she was trying to justify what she did. But after the video I feel no longer hatred but I guess understanding. And it was really good that Dr.k did this one without knowing anything about the situation , because he could speak with her effectively. Now I wonder about myself how I can help someone when I already have certain notions and conclusions formed about them. Gonna do some thinking on that. Thanks for this Dr.K
she is so brave to go on here despite the excessive hate she has gotten. to be open and authentic about your trauma and how it has affected you in your adult life is something not a lot of people are willing to confess or admit to. so so so proud of Katerino. i wish her the absolute best. good work Dr. K
@@snapbrogman2368 my dude...she opend up about her sexual abuse that is fucking brave. Sure shes a shitty person, but opening up about that is so brave and I HATE her. I have to ask, do you have trauma? That stuff is not easy to open up about even to a professional
@@weebman2915 Hate is a strong emotion. Why do you feel hate for a complete stranger, who has never done you wrong, or even knows you exist? Seems like a waste of energy, that could be spent on something positive instead...
@@chihuahuainacone she is a liar and a cheat. Both of which I hate due to events of my personal life either it be directly affecting me or indirectly (no I have not been cheated on nor have i) and that's why. I know hate is a strong word, and that's why I project it in such a way
Never heard of Katerino before but i can relate to what she's saying a lot. I feel like i really understand her on a deep level. I had the same thing happen with Mitch Jones. I felt like i REALLY understood him. I'm trying to figure out why. Why do i see myself in Mitch and Katerino so much and how i can use that to help myself.
@@jrgenhgset4120 Yeah, you're right. I do the same thing. Had a rough childhood and i also lost my mom as a teenager. This is interesting to me.. even if it's kinda obvious. Skål.
@@Yese7 Yeah, i get what you're saying. But wouldn't Dr. K know that. Why didn't he correct her? I know what kind of depersonalisation you are talking about. I used to be quite the psychonaut. Some of my friends would experience depersonalisation after some horrible acid trips. It took them years to recover. But in this case i think we're talking about not letting youself feel emotions. Depersonalisation in the sense that you distance yourself from what you're actually feeling.
@@Yese7 Oh yeah, absolutely. I don't think Kate suffers from depersonalisation. True depersonalisation is hella crazy. I can relate to the feeling after tripping a lot but it never stuck with me, thank god. The term is probably not being used correctly. I don't think Kate knows what depersonalisation really is, but we get what she's trying to say.
It's also people like you who make the world a shittier place, you and your hypocrisy. Since it doesn't affect you, you swept it all under the rug and called it a day. A human being did something abhorrent. It doesn't matter if someone directly tied to the incident forgives said person. Im not fucking Carson. I have my own opinion and rights. FUCK Katerino.
Za Monolith DUDE you can tell carson himself doesnt want her receiving all the hate shes getting?? He wouldnt have donated otherwise. You can choose to not support her, but spreading hate about her is going against what he would like
@@suniex4309 *facepalm* I literaly said I don't give a shit about Carson. Just because he has an insight about the situation doesn't mean it's the RIGHT one. You don't let people do wrong shit and turn your face away, that's why people keep doing fuckedu p shit, because they're ALLOWED to.
Za Monolith are you ok lol dude? we arent involved in this situation. We are random bystanders. Shes lost a bf, carson, and so many friends, and money/followers from this. Shes paying the consequences. We dont have a say in this its between the people involved and clearly the people involved want the immense hate to stop
@@fistofram5526 And what's your contribution? Making things only worse? You don't care about what's just, you're only looking for justification to hate someone over something petty and unleash it on them. I'd say that's so immature, but now I realize you're a kiddo... which immediately became self-explanatory.
ive experienced depersonalization 1 time through a drug trip recently, it felt like i had 2 minds fighting with each other while feeling like you didnt know which is real and which wasnt. i personally dunno how you would turn your mind in your body off and live with the mind outside your body because both would have thoughts going on at the same time.....interesting
Thanks for uploading the "Interviews". They honestly feel more like a session to me. I feel like in every talk with someone I can reflect something onto myself and I really like how you approach the different things. Thanks for doing those talks even though I can most of the time only watch them here on UA-cam, I believe you are helping a lot of other people, not just the person you're speaking to :)
He talked to CEOs and Goldman Sachs bankers before he started doing this and those are arguably some of the most vile parasitic people on this planet. He's a therapist. Doctors don't care what people did. They treat them.
DAMN!! Dr.10K you make me go through my childhood and revisit all the times i failed in life and all the emotions that comes with it..... over and over and over again.. understanding oneself is a hell of a process and you help me go through that and for that i thank you soo much i needed that.. my life is a big mess i mostly go on wihtout too much worrying about that but sometimes it comesback to me and watching your videos help me a big deal going through that and i really appreciate your work and i thank you for the bottom of my heart sir!!
maypaki alam look, Vaginismus isn’t a message from god, it’s a medical disorder caused by past trauma. You aren’t born with it. She developed it because a person sexually abused her. Her brain associates penetration with that traumatic event
maypaki alam I know that, however you are not born with it and even if you could be the idea that god gave it to you because you were destined to be a virgin, is unscientific and incorrect. A person can chose what they want to do with their body, so if they want to recover from it, that is not going against any god. I hope you realize that
maypaki alam also, I checked out the blogs you commented on. I saw that the creator of the first blog responded to you and did not like what you said. I don’t blame her. That was an awful thing to do. It’s so much easier to live your own life and not worry what others do. I’m gay, and I used to be in a very religious community. Christianity scarred me deeply, however I know that not all Christians are intolerant of others. I have gotten told I’m going to hell, and that I’m going against the lord, but you know what? I don’t care, I don’t believe in God, but I don’t force my atheism on people. You shouldn’t force Christianity on people
The video has only been up for 16 minutes and it already has 20 dislikes. Please do not click dislike just because of Kate. Disliking the video only hurt Dr.K not Kate. 🤦🏽♂️
Perhaps they dislike because they don't like Dr. K inviting her on stream and giving her a platform and disliking is their way of showing their aversion. Not that I agree with that position, but I don't think most people viewing this channel are dumb enough to expect a dislike on Dr. Ks channel hurting her.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi i also think that way. But perhaps there's also people doesn't like her respond to Dr K's question. I tried to look at the newest comment and you can see some hateful comment to kate which, this is Dr K not Kate
@@Luftgitarrenprofi Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why some people wouldn't enjoy the interview, you have every right to dislike this video, but when the interview is over an hour-long I just feel like 16 minutes isn't enough time to form your own opinion if you like or dislike the video unless you already saw the full interview on Twitch. 🤷🏽♂️
@@TylerBlackRunIt That's not what I said at all. My point isn't about rights or quality evaluation. It's about people disliking Dr.K for giving someone they dislike a platform. And I've also said that this isn't my view, but that you're likely straw manning alot of viewers, because you're ignoring a perspective. My view is that Dr.Ks goal is to help people regardless of what they've done and especially invite more extreme cases that he thinks alot of people might relate to and draw some conclusions from that might enable them to help themselves.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi Lmao, you really took my comment the wrong way. You need to reread my comment again. I never said anything about your viewpoint, I was talking in general. I'm not straw-manning nothing, I'm just giving you my opinion, just like you are giving me your opinion. I totally understand where you are coming from, but in my second post all I was saying was that people should at least watch a good portion of the video before hitting the like or dislike button.
Dear Kate, What you did was wrong, obviously. You already know that because youre a person with a brain and you also have been crucified by the internet. But, I dont think youre a bad person. I see a lot of myself in you. Im experiencing a lot of what you experienced. You speaking up and opening up more about your situation has really helped me feel a little less lost. And so for that, thank you.
I disagree that she is a good person. Being a selfish and dishonest person with a good heart does not make you a good person. Your helplessness does not justify hurting other people.
@@azura5800 at least shes getting a lot of screen time going on these mental health discussions. really masks all the shittiness of her chronic cheating. look shes already got a ton of people flipping their opinion around. good strategic choice on her part.
AZURA I still think she’s a shitty person. Just because you’re atoning for what you did, doesn’t mean that the mistake you made and the hurt you caused others disappeared. I do not forgive cheaters period.
Shad0wmoses She seems smart and low key manipulative. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s using this to cleanse her public image. Once time passes, shell get back to streaming and everyone will forget that this whole shenanigan ever happened. I hate how the internet gives her a pass for cheating just because she’s a girl. The fucking double standards.
i first came to this video angry, i even commented that "katerino was canceled for a reason, she doesnt deserve her career back" and oh boy i have never regretted a comment more, i quickly deleted it in shame. I didnt sit down and give her a chance, and i realize now i have this problem alot. please if you came to the comment section before watching the video, and feel the same way i felt, just give her a chance, she really has changed as a person and i have never felt more proud. Thank you Dr K, you're a real legend❤
@@ArchAnto definitely a fair point and most likely true to most extent, but judging from the fact that she mentioned reflecting on her mistakes and understanding how to become better multiple times, even the fact that she was able to vent so much to Dr K even when she has a big problem with expressing her emotions really shows how she has put alot of effort in to making herself a better person
@NCR Trooper woah its almost like people take different amounts of time to recover and change. nobody said shes a COMPLETELY different person, shes well on her path to improvement and has definitely already changed some things
Dr K thank you for making these! I know this is probably not how therapy really and truly is but this has taught me a lot about myself and made me less scared to seek out therapy!
I had this video open and stopped right before the meditation part for a week or two. Not sure what was keeping me from it, but I'm glad I participated with it. Thanks Dr. K, keep up the good work :)
I realized that I truly hope she continues to receive excellent therapy, and learn how to process all of the awful things she survived because of one bone-chilling question I ended up wondering about in regards to her go-to defense mechanism of depersonalizing, disassociating, and deflecting from having to authentically process her triggers for pain, sadness, anxiety, and fear via laughter or jokes. It’s reportedly common that sexual abusers will trick or manipulate their victims, especially during the acts or moments of abuse, to make light of or manipulate them into expressing a reaction or emotion that does not reflect back onto them as the abuser the horrific reality of their act they’re committing in the moment. So, my heartbreakingly sad question is, did her abuser train/groom her to react as if her moments of torture/abuse should be funny or something to laugh about with them as opposed to awful and painful for her? Considering that possibility chilled me to the core of my soul. If not, and either way, I hope she achieves true healing.
Kate, you're alright. I understand your reasoning and your feelings and why you did what you did. In the end, it doesn't matter anymore, what's done is done. I'm also a victim of sexual abuse and I feel like playing myself in the 3rd person, pretending everything is alright when it isn't. I hope you get better, I know that it will be alright anyway. People will look at this video in awe, just like I am right now. You're so strong to be able to talk about this, I couldn't. But I guess you have talked to a therapist before, so there's that xD Get better, I'm rooting for you.
@@IKIGAIofficial No it doesn't. But still, you have to ask yourself - where is the threshold for forgiveness? Obviously she made a mistake - is it unforgivable though? Ultimately, everyone has to decide for themselves on that one, especially her ex-boyfriend and those she hurt. In my view, things need to be forgiven if there is any peace to be found in the hearts and minds of either party - her or those she wronged.
@@Jac0bIAm id say the backlash is deserved for her actions and she should learn from it and grow. but yes people shouldnt hate and cancel her for her entire life after this.
@@CrystalChrysanthemum right? like you can sympathize with people and understand that theyre victims of their own past but dont excuse them for shitty actions that they have done themselves.
I think something that happens on Twitch is that people forget that the streamers they watch are complex human beings with many flaws and will make mistakes because they are human. Accepting people for who they are looking past mistakes they have made will not in most cases lead you to believe the person is a horrible, soul-less mean creature. I can't say Kate is a bad person or a good person because I know some of her mistakes, all I can do is accept that the mistakes she made will have come from experience and bad decisions.
don't play dumb, man. you know if a person of ill-repute is present in an otherwise pleasant youtuber's video, the first instinct of most people is to dislike.
to everyone angry about people who are mocking those who dislike the vid so quickly: this video does not ask you to like or forgive kate (from what i’ve seen). you are well within your right to be angry at her for what she did (i am too). the purpose of backlash is to make the person aware that they fucked up, and from what i’ve seen in this video, kate is aware. staying hyper-focused on her mistake does not reverse the cheating, it doesn’t heal her ex, it just makes her defensive, and it makes you unnecessarily hateful. kate fucked up immensely. let her improve herself.
The issue is the dislikes don’t affect her, it affects Dr. K’s channel. Also I think that you shouldn’t forgive her, but that doesn’t mean you should hate ber
Let her improve herself? She is coming on the stream so that the tap will go back on and she doesn't have to change, if she was serious about improving she'd quit everything that has to do with the Internet and focus on her real life with her real friends, not take a 2 month break then jump on a mental health stream and push an agenda where she's suffering from trauma so that people will tell her how strong she is becuase she realised that fucking five dudes who just "coincidentially" happen to have a lot of money and fame while having a boyfriend and telling each one they're special is a seriously fucked up thing to do.
Niddhoggr as i said, i agree that she made at least 5 huge mistakes, and she really hurt those 6 men. Also, you think she should just give up her source of income and a significant source of happiness?
Hearing about her past was very disturbing… my heart goes out to her. I knew something wasn’t right the moment the infamous “news” broke out over a year ago and her reaction wasn’t shame or to hide like most girls, but she just “accepted” it. Like the way she reacted to everyone hating her was someone that thought so lowly of themselves in the first place that they thought they deserved all the hate, which isn’t normal. If one thinks that they’re “dirty” or unworthy of love at a young age, they will typically go in a self destructive path later in life. Because Kate was abused as a young girl by a man close to the family, she is unable to tell the difference between a good and bad guy and chooses unwisely. All of the men that Kate got involved with, I think she wants someone to love her because she is completely incapable of loving herself. She completely gave up on that idea long ago. This, coupled with the fact of her destroyed self concept (thinks she is “impure” due to sexual abuse as a child), the fact that she (like most broken women) think that the only way men will stay with her is through sex (even though she herself doesn’t even enjoy it) she is willing to let boys use her body if it means the boy will stay with her because she is terrified of being left alone. I saw in this interview the scared little six year old girl that still thinks that the sexual abuse she suffered was all her fault. Kate doesn’t need boyfriends, she needed a real friend. And I don’t think she has any. I think a lot of the boys that tried to get involved with her were just guys that were just orbiting around her in hopes of dating her under false pretenses of wanting to be “just friends.” I think this incident was one biggest examples of shameful misogyny on both genders. Meme videos, Carson fanboys rallying, I remember pokimane smirking at Kate’s “demise” when this all went down. It was just all so disgusting. I hope this girl finds the help she needs.
That's kind of naive to think, what if she's just straight up evil and you don't know. I guess it doesn't matter to you because she's pretty or has a cute personality.
Very interesting video and I respect you for treating her like a friend...giving her a save space to talk. When this all started I disliked her because she came across like this person who uses people to get famous but as this drama continued, I kinda got annoyed at how much this was blown out of proportion and the insane amount of hate... I could see that she wasn't cheating because she thinks she is extremely attractive or something but she has deeper issues... And I respect her for talking about it. I'm not excusing her actions just by the way... that's still horrible.
Dr. K, at 1:52:55 you said you need to process for a second because you are feeling overwhelmed. What are you doing in those moments to help yourself overcome those feelings? I think this was a very good interview to show how even social media influencers, and entertainers are people too. I was quite surprised but also happy that Kate was able to share as much as she did about her life, how she felt about certain events, and also how she overcame them. I try not to judge others just from hearing one perspective as many things happened to me in my life as well, however I will admit it is easier when it is breaking news about some person on the internet I've never met before. I did judge Kate when I first learned about her and the incident but until now I didn't get to hear her side of the story and just sort of glanced at headlines and the such. Having Kate in this interview be as open as she was, was probably the most eye opening evidence to me that streamers are people too. You said it was okay to judge but why is it okay?
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Love her chunky legs
I really wish dr.k coulda been here for etika
Fuck man. Too soon, still.
In an alternate universe, he's probably still with us because he got the appropriate help...RIP my guy
why you gotta that real shit, etika would have loved this
Yeah... I don't know if K would have saved Etika. But I do think he would have helped him out A LOT. Maybe that in and of itself would have been enough. A guy who takes everyone's mental illness seriously. Regardless of the things they have done and or said. I really do believe that as close minded as it might be.
@@calin6327 alright no it isnt tbh. we all miss him but hes been gone for a while now, talking about things that could of prevented or helped him isnt wrong or off the table. if anything we should of talked about this while he was still here.
Callmecarson donating 10k at the end of the stream is the biggest Chad energy. Edit: guys he donated the money to the Healthy Gamer mental health coaching program, NOT to Katerino, chill.
Nah, just big simp energy
That was the simpest shit ever
People here being opposed to improvement. He said 'thanks for helping her', because he wants her to be a better person. Shaming him for wanting a person to become better is the pettiest shit. The human race is fucked if we keep such negative attitudes.
Novenae mhm, sure
@@Novenae_CCG I agree that the people callling him a simp are retarded, but i don't think this will have a significant impact on the human race. Retarded people and internet will always be a thing.
Carson is one of the smartest and strongest people around dude. He donated 10k to a great dude who's job is helping people. Dr K helped Kate for sure in this stream. It kinda showed people that kate is a human too. Carson is probably past being angry at her. Most likely just sad and disappointed by the situation and knows everyone involved got hit including kate. The donation is just pure king shit. Forgivness is not simping people
@@ghevisartor6005 MY MAN SquadW /s
@@ghevisartor6005 I don't think I'd call the average male or female streamer mature... Carson is the exception not the rule.
I agree
its easy to tell he was never really mad at her in his apology, just disappointed with both her and fitz like you said.
All people are human it doesn't mean anything except flowery language
Dont dislike the video just because you dont like katerino, I really respect this channel and the video showing a different perspective
people are sheeple its how the internet works
@Jeff B what
I agree, that negatively affects the algorithm for Dr K he doesn’t deserve that
I don't understand peoples insane burning hatred for people that cheat. Is it a shitty thing to do? Yes. But treating someone who cheated as "subhuman trash" is so wild to me.
Im agree with the stranger
Dr. K - Went to med school, 180k subs on UA-cam
Also Dr. K - I don't know how to plug in a second monitor
I;m stupid and even I know how to do that
Im a medstud and I dont know how to do tht either please sue me
@@Vyansya maybe only stupid people know how to do it
Vyansya its simple man all you do is plug it into your graphics card that is why it has multiple outputs of the same type.
As someone who works in IT currently, you would be surprised about who has no idea how to use technology outside their field lmao.
i think the reason why she's laughing so much, interrupts dr.k a lot and isnt focused is because she's really anxious even when she said she's relaxed her defense mechanism is like on high gear
(for people who think she's disrespecting dr. k when that's really not the case)
yeah i can relate to this whenever i talk about personal stuff i do the exact same thing where my mind is racing and im constantly giving an explanation for everything i say or do and laughing and when i was younger that would also include stuttering. So yeah i think you hit the nail on the head. She comes off as eccentric but im sure she doesnt feel too good about it.
@@AXharoth this comment was edited so the replies dont make any sense
Yeah I agree, they almost seem like ticks or somethings she not controlling
I agree. I think Dr. K was actively trying to not laugh at any of her jokes because doing so would just reinforce that defence mechanism. The dude is out here with these big brain psychological moves lol
She actually has ADHD/ADD if I remember correctly. It can definitely seem like she was uninterested/un-focused
Timestamps:
00:00 introductions
07:30 Cheating & Mental Health
17:29 the relationship, vaginismus, emotions
29:30 Sexual abuse, depersonalization
40:29 Grandfather passed away, childhood
1:03:50 emotional processing, absence of anger, self-love
1:29:20 Meditation
1:45:50 Outro
1:52:10 Thank you, it’s ok to not love yourself
2:00:40 Thank you CallMeCarson, Sprim9189, Knightvision91
@@Mark-xw5yt Yeah, definitely agree hundred percent!
@Mark its katerinos career future :O
@@Mark-xw5yt hello Mark
Hey Hey
I have been cheated on before. Never in a million years would I want that person who cheated on me to be harassed or to be treated as an irredeemable villain their whole lives. I am glad that they too are seeking help and bettering themselves.
Jordan's Unix-based Machine damn. That sucks hope you’re feeling good👍🙏
My friend was cheated on and decided to get back with her, cheat, and leave her. Do u think he did the right thing? I feel like she deserved it for playing with his emotions but it was a bit too far. Should he apologise?
@@Urmom-if5nc I think he wasted his and her time. Revenge is petty and silly, he should've used that time on moving on from her and betting himself. I hope both your friend and his ex use their time more wisely in the future.
@@whitesticcwilly8907 I'm doing great! It was a long time ago.
@@Urmom-if5nc yea he did go a bit far definally if she was willing to change. I get his mindset but it well just end in more negativity.
People who send death threats because someone they don't know cheated on their boyfriend need to take a big look at their own moral compass.
I’m shocked there isn’t a “simp” comment on this
simp
Which one boyfriends tho?
@@piewdisiegaming uhhhhhhhhhh the 1198th one i think
More than that they need to fucking get their priorities right. Like taking interest in their own life instead for starters. But if seems like people live through others on the internet today and that's just... beyond sad.
You can tell she doesn't like that she laughs. Seems like it annoys her.
john, I want a divorce
Relatable in some way
Joker
corn bob AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its interesting when two people accidentally speak at the same time and then both pause its almost the exact same pause duration before they speak again.
Is it really that interesting
There seems to be a subconscious timer in our brains. Other examples include when you're hugging someone it will usually be for exactly 3 seconds.
It's like when you bump into someone at the super market and both move out the way to the same side again and again ....
We are living in a simulation and the pause timer is a fixed variable
@@Bombasaur101 same thing with hand shakes
CallMeCarson donated $10,000 "Thank you for helping her." I'm glad he doesn't hold ill will towards her even after what happened. Not necessarily for her sake but his own. He seems like a good person.
Couldn't be me wouldn't be able to look at her face
10 grand? well he did it so no one else becomes like her and hurts anyone else
@@slurqt lol beta
DeuPKay fun fact we not wolves so we dont use alpha, beta ranks as to describe people
@@DeuPKay I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or a kid. You'll get it one day dude. Sometimes you gotta spare your own sanity by staying away from people that hurt you before.
Ngl at first i gave a lot of smoke for the situation but this interview rlly opened up my eyes on how she has her own problems. Also made me realised not to judge anyone from face-value... good job Dr K
Katerino's therapist is punchin the air right now
This has to be one of the most powerful sessions Dr K has ever done.
Sound guy here: it was a big MISTAKE turning up the gain on your microphone. You pushed the input gain into distortion. In fact, you audio is always distorting on your videos. Look up "audio clipping", "gain staging", and also "vocal compression" seeing as you tend to sometimes increase your vocal volume very much, in sudden bursts.
yes! there was def nothing wrong with it, it annoyed me when it was turned up
Lhol I am also a sound person one who knows how to hear the sounds with proper quantities
Hey man :) Maybe if you send him a DM you can help him out via discord 1 on 1 :) Only if you want to of course! I think DR. K needs a bunch of help perfecting his streaming set-up x)
You're disliking Dr.K not Kate.
true
Dr. K's knowledge is futile in this matter.
I guarantee you, there is no helping this woman.
Take it from me and the small but enlightening handful of dating NIGHTMARES I've experienced, these types of girls rarely if ever, change.
@@ChristUponus That is as ridiculous as saying vaccines are ineffective because there are SOME people that they don't work on. Of course some women can't be helped, but it is ridiculous to make a sweeping statement and assert that these type of women cannot be helped based on your personal experience with them.
@@ChristUponus Also, you said they "rarely, if ever, change," which implies that, in your eyes, there is still a possibility of them changing. If that is true, Dr. K's expertise is NOT futile. In your eyes, there is a chance of her changing, and so people SHOULD try to help her.
@@ChristUponus LMAO are you really saying that to a harvard psychologist who is professionally trained to help people mentally by talking shit about his knowlege being futile?
Imagine talking about all this incredibly personal stuff on the internet for anybody to see, that would be so difficult
@Turquoise Cheetah shes being forced to do it by witch hunting assholes like you. If she doesn't give her full story everyone online will continue to hate her because they don't understand. What is your problem.
@@Vero-jz5ex Imagine a public figure trying to do PR.
I forgave her the moment she said "Vagina broken. Don't work". I laughed way too hard. In all seriousness, I've been hurt by cheating a lot and I won't lie, I judged Katerino in the same way I judged those who hurt me. I realize now that was wrong, and I found she was actually fairly similar to me in some ways when all I wanted to do was silently judge her. I'm glad I saw this. It opened my eyes to not being so quick to judge based on my past experiences.
I have never clicked faster in my whole life
Factual
Why though
Broke my finger while clicking
You probably care way too much about internet drama.Maybe you should think about that.
@@lolizorz youve got point
This was a good stream. How often do you get to hear this in depth about the mind of a perpetrator of a scandal? It's incredibly illuminating and reminds us of the humanity even in 'bad' people
Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying whether or not Katerino deserves forgiveness, or whether or not she is a bad person. I don't have any power to make that judgement, neither do I care to. I just really appreciate the perspective.
perfect comment
Indeed. I really wanted to hear her part of the story in this - in order to understand her and people that can be unfaithful in relationship, their motivations, inner state and history.
Well serial killers are fairly human as well
@@haticll I would love to hear Dr K talk to a serial killer.
@@elijahbuscho7715 same.
This session was very heavy! And this video has a lot of power in it. It should be shown to those who needs it!
Her laughing throughout the whole thing really got to me. I can see how laughter is her shield to not crying. Holding everything in that’s happened to her. People can do bad things, but I truly believe many deserve second chances. Unless if there Hitler.
It's great to see how much Dr. K has changed people. If someone laughs when they're nervous, they usually get called emotionally immature or "unready to talk". This comment section is the best thing to come out of UA-cam so far. You may get passively judged but they will never openly drag you down because they know what you're going through. Amazing stuff :^)
Is it just me or her talking a lot, jumping from topic to topic, talking with rich and vibrant vocabulary is some sort of defense mechanism? Every time Dr. K. pressed gently on a serious issue, she immediately ran away into "storytelling" territory where she talked and talked and in the same time, mentally separating herself from emotions and feelings. It felt like Dr. K was chasing a bunny through a complicated maze, and every time one would think that Dr. K. "had" her pinned against the wall she managed to get away from his grasp. And when he finally "had" her during meditation, calmed her down and had her focused on one hard memory she was legitimately scared.
I know jackshit about psychology but I don't think she had dealt with everything on an emotional level. Her brain processed everything, she definitely put a lot of thought into her past, her abuse, her papa dying, her recent cheating, but I don't think she's emotionally ready to deal with everything she lived through. It's good that she's seeing a therapist, she will definitely need some help with that.
It could be a defense mechanism, it could also be that she has so many years of unproccessed thoughts and emotions all bottled up that whenever she does open up, the dam kinda bursts and it all comes flooding out at once, thus making it very scattered, unfocused, rambly and a bit chaotic. It's also possible that because focusing in on one memory makes her scared as you put it, she then has to move quickly from topic to topic as to avoid lingering in one place and feeling that fear, which is understandable.
yes and its totally normal for a person with a lot of trauma , stop judging
thats the fucking point einstein
i think your observation is valid. she uses her laughing as defense mechanism and she does it a lot. shes not relaxed and she certainly spends a lot of energy for just being okay.
Fibbles OH MY GOD I GET YOU SO HARD, that happened with my adhd too, one og my therapists tried to talk about stuff that i was really sensitive to and i tried to talk about other stuff and then i just left.
The way therapists talk is so fucking comforting. I miss mine
bruh why tf wasnt i tought about vaginismus in health class
@Jeff B "broken vaginas" lmao
Probably because some things are more important, dangerous and frequent that that one thing...
@Jeff B sure lets learn about every type of broken dick, too. beats learning about the fuckn quadratic formula
@@blew1t chances are, you'll learn more than you need to know about dicks and vaginas, by virtue of being on the internet.
On the other hand, if nobody forces the quadratic equation down your throat, you'll never even hear of it.
@@alfreddelatourquipenche8287 i dont think that holds true for every adolescent though, i feel like very few teens or whatever go into their sex life with the amount of info needed for it to be, uh, graceful. usually it's awkward. and i mean obviously the main point of sex ed is to teach kids about safe sex, but i think it could also help decrease awkwardness arising from sexual misinformation, or just lack of information, and i think that'd be especially helpful for people with vaginismus, because i'd imagine young men that aren't informed about that would be weirded out and it would just be a bad experience. maybe that sort of thing isn't worth spending much time on, but if there's gonna be sex ed lessons anyway, might as well briefly cover the bases of some common sexual conditions, because as kate said it's fairly common, some estimates say as many as 6% of women experience it
This was really eye opening in a lot of ways. I relate to Kate in a lot and watching this made me realize how much I struggle with Disassociation and Depersonalization in my own life. I had no idea she was sexually abused as a child and had been through so much trauma in her life. Nothing justified what she did but it is definitely insightful.
@Semore Taffie people have their own reactions to trauma
In case anyone is in some sort of doubt about the dementia part, that part is so accurate. My own grandad went through it, and my brother and mother are working in aged care (70% of the facility have dementia) and I visit to help them sometimes. Yeah, families can be torn apart by it.
The best friend grand dad breakdown I've personally seen twice, some of them forget the people they see everyday and I've had the same story about my real name about a hundred times. Its heart breaking to see someone just forget everything about themselves.
And its not forgetting temporarily, they lose the memory permanently. I've seen people forget their spouse's face, and talk to them about them without knowing why the spouse is crying.
Dementia is fucked up, if you think she wasn't being genuine about that, I'm gonna say you never had someone have this kind of breakdown in front of you. This is her breaking down, even if its not the media depicted way, in this I can say she is honest.
In the comments section you can see the real biggest plague in history happen, drama addiction, that's the world boss of mental health. Those people are beyond hope.
Drama adicction is more dangerous than corona and black death together
I'll never understand how these people get so emotionally involved in other people's relationships. Felt the same way when the Doc had his scandal. What a waste of energy.
Cancelled culture at work here. All these zoomers stuck at home with nothing better to do.
where are all these toxic comments? i cant find one comment that bashes this girl or this video
junayd mohammed they’re a lot more drowned out but you’ll mostly find them in the replies to comments where people are just pointing out (not excusing) that trauma can lead people to doing fucked up things such as cheating
just so everyone knows Carson didn't donate to katerino he donated to Dr. K and the gamer bro charity he's doing.
He could have donated at another time.
@@jlann8243 true, but why give aF about when? If anything it was the right time to do it... he was directly affected by her mental issues and that's him showing he wants more resources to go towards such issues.
People really on here bitter like the bitch cheated on y'all 😂😂
@@jlann8243 A donation is a donation stop being dumb.
he donated to dr k for helping katerino
why do you even care though.
I respect Kate for seeking help, being open and honest, and trying to understand herself. I'm going through a similar situation (didn't cheat on 7 people or whatever) where I need to understand myself and my problems to move forward, so I respect that a lot.
I know very little about this whole drama thing with Katerino, only that she received A LOT of hate. I'm sorta glad I'm going into this without an opinion of her. This should be interesting
what do you think so far?
@@popcorn.164 Yeah what do you think about it.
Update on your opinion of the situation, friend?
@@catfan__ Damn. R.I.P Ben.
@Jeff B and males. I've found myself in negative moral situations where I've slept with one women that I obviously led to believe we were exclusive and things where leading to a serious relationship and still sleep with one or two other women.
I know it's wrong and I find myself quite uncomfortable thinking about it. I'm quite good looking and that's what I've been told by many people throughout my life. I feel like it's part of my identity to be successful with women. Also I feel like the need to mate is strong in this one.
I've been dealing with a metric ton of bottled up emotions during this quarantine, and your channel has actually helped me to shed some light on what i'm feeling. Thank you Dr. K. , you're doing something amazing with your channel.
The video ending on 'Is a Keemstar a thing?' is hilarious
LMAO
Yea that was the best ending XD
s/o to Dr. K for giving Kate a chance and humanizing someone who was so villainizedby the community.
I can relate to her "depersonalisation". When I got too much going on and feel like things are slipping out of my control I kinda just check out and cruise along.
It doesn't make anything better or less urgent, but I can ignore it easier until pressure gets too much and I feel like I swallowed hot lead, or whatever I was ignoring catches up with me and bites me in the ass.
Can be really tough to get out of a rut like that but I'm getting better at forcing myself to do unpleasant things that need to get done. Even doing smaller stuff like cleaning etc helps me stay ontop of more important things like taxes, work, relationship maintenance or physical health.
For me, depersonalization is like when I do certain things, and convince myself that someone else did it, not me. Like I had times in my life where I would act completely opposite to my values, as if I were acting for a different life and not my own. So even though it's messed up, it's still an actual thing that can happen to some. It also makes people feel wrongly justified to do something wrong, just because "it's not me that's doing, it's another side of me.
I guess an easier way to explain this is in acting, when you play certain parts, you get too emotionally into the part. You become an entirely different person in that moment. And somethings you just feel in that moment because you are supposed to feel it, not because you necessarily do(example: losing a loved one in a play that you are part of and acting that part out). That's what depersonalization feels like to me.
I worry that this kind of personality is sociopathic and detached though.
I was also abused as a kid and had a lot of difficulty developing social skills and making good decisions.
That is sad to hear. Are you better at that now?
Same
Still scrolling through the comments to see who asked
@@rubixsosa547 lmaooo
@@rubixsosa547 Found the Katerino simp
to people saying that Katerino should have gone offline: I think that would go against the point of healthygamer to help others (in this case where the interviewee is comfortable with it being broadcasted). people watching on twitch might not know this channel on yt, and some may connect with these discussions (maybe not with cheating, but maybe with discussions on vaginismus, self-acceptance, defense mechanisms, and grieving).
even if it were for clout, the fact that healthygamer can bring these topics to light and educate viewers is more important than the intent of the interviewee imo.
@@nuclear804 I'm sorry for what happened to your mom. I'm glad to hear that you learned from the stream, though.
Thank you for sharing your story.
as well as the fact that, she shouldn't be forced to not talk about things publicly or not allowed to stream because she makes a mistake. she has owned up to it and knows she is at fault of it.
@@LittleB1RDY definitely. I feel that this also makes more sense than my original comment.
I think that, even in the case that discussion on stream may not be applicable to the audience, interviewees should feel free to speak publicly with Dr K if they choose to.
She's such a colorful person. I love her "bubbly, extroverted" personality and I'm so sad for her, there's so much pain.
I personally relate to her, I currently am figuring myself out and whether I also suffer from depersonalization.
This channel really can show the real type of people they are. Even if some people are controversial, at the end of the day, they're human. As long as they move on.
Idk about you guys but i see a mess of a girl who wanted some momentary satisfaction in the past and now has to face not only the consequences of her actions but the trauma she suffered from the past. Right now the last thing she needs is more bashing, she is already unstable, doing that wont help her.
Same people who love Etika will still bash her. They don't give a fuck about people if they're bashing her for something that has nothing to actually do with them. Twomad leading by example, for example. People are just going to keep killing themselves after being bullied and shit and afterwards people will pretend to be sorry. Shit is wild.
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm agreed. That Twomad interview was terrible
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm Etika was good person though，and through her bad decisions - she is objectively a bad one. We can understand her pain and the nuances of her character but I don't think she should be so easily forgiven since she'll never undo the damage she's done. Some people went to far with her but at the end of the day，she isn't hurt by anyone，a death threat is just another hater who probably has issues like her. So why are we forgiving aweful things she's done to Carson while she gets hate messages that's common online. Seems very inconsistent if we forgive her becuase “she has issues”. Shit we can say that about the people who say mean things to her too
kjfdsjknfjkna fknsdlfnla He said the people that say they miss Etika were the same people harassing her. Also are you saying just because it’s common means it’s right?
@@quantum7495 even if it isn't right doesn't undo the bad things she's done. Some people went too far with harrassing her and they're wrong for that. All I'm saying is that her negative actions deserve critism and can't be forgiven so easily because some people are assholes like her.
i've heard "disassociate" as a defense mechanism for trauma, is that the same as "depersonalize"?
Yes, she means disassociation
I mean they're slightly different. Disassociate is you kinda seperate from the situation you're in and everything happening, depersonalization is a step further in which you seperate from yourself. Your identity and your feelings stop being yours completely.
@@yourstruly5738 that definition coming in clutch
Depersonalisation is a sub category of dissociation. Dissociation is a broader term which branches off to different types of dissociation.
Nathan Carter what about derealization?
oof this got me tearing up. ty for doing his kate, I struggle with depersonalization too
Me too and it sucks shit. Hope you've been keeping well
Why the dislikes Dr K is just doing his job we all know Kate's history but that doesn't mean you should dislike the video because she was on his show.
to be fair they probably know the dislikes aren't against Dr K or HealthyGamer, and it still makes the video more popular. I definitely feel like the hate she's getting is waay out of proportion too tho
@jeffB Katerino was dating 2 men at the same time (the boyfriend she mentions, and IWillDominate) she then messed around with a few other men, making it seem like she was interested in one, and none of these men knew about each other, and no one knew she was dating anyone. Thats the gist, but I’m sure there are a TON of videos covering it, it’s the big drama of twitch
Piss off with this herd mentality manipulation attempt, if someone wants to dislike the video that's their completely valid choice.
@@vinny5638 No need to get aggressive, I don't really see any malicious intent in this at all.
Vinny
And I have a right to say whatever I want so you piss off dawg
god the fucking apples to apples story almost made me cry
The rant at the end put a lot of things in perspective for me
I’ve been feeling so broken for the past year because I’ve started to realize how my brain/anxiety works against me. I haven’t been able to get proper help so I feel like I’m broken until I can
But I’m 18. I have my whole life ahead of me. This isn’t the end
I know I’ve dumped a lot of comments on this video, but I feel like I have to. If Dr. K or someone on his team happens to read them, then I know that they may feel like their hard work to spread this information is working. And if some other kid in the same situation as me sees this comment, then they’ll know they aren’t alone
Dr K, you're one of the many support beams holding up my mental health. Thank you.
It's really amazing how open she is with everything that happened to her
Carson: Donates 10k during a stream with his ex who cheated on him with several people
jake paul: Loots during a protest under the guise of a dead man he doesn't even know the name of
I'm glad Kate did this. Yeah, what she did was a very bad thing and she has to take responsibility for hurting people. But there were people going just a bit too far with it. If you see her as a person and you hear her experiences you sympathize with her on a human level and it's harder to be so cruel to someone who made a really bad choice like we all do at some point.
I literally have never watched anything she has done, but this video made me cry more than I have in a long time and I have no idea why
TheManOfPeace999 me tooooo! Katie is so real & been through so much. She’s been hurt & hurt others yet she is growing so much. I felt her pain & my own pain. I am not a gamer or streamer & honestly not part of the twitch community but my son is & he grinds so hard & is growing so fast. He’s been playing since he was 10 but seeing what he has been through, dealing with toxicity & just plain jealousy has been hard for me to see & watching him have to deal with all of that at such a young age was very difficult & frightened me at times! He had threats, his account hacked, stalkers & people threatening suicide He spent hours talking to people & talking them out off suicidal intentions but at the same time he’s received great support & made some awesome friends. The thing I find so hard is all the judgment of others! Who are we to judge others? No one is perfect & we don’t always know another persons life or situations. Anyone can be mean but it takes a special person to be kind. These streams have been amazing for me to watch & understanding truly what the gaming community go through. Love to you all 🥰
Lmao pussies
This was such a ride man. I really learned from this video. Thank you Dr. K!
U should talk with callmecarson
he said he really doesn’t want to (from what i got from his tweet)
@@aldescora Carson or Dr. K?
@@devcron7041 Carson. Why Dr K not a guest on his show?
He seeking help from a professional outside of the public eye. He doesn't really have a need for this, and I don't think hes the type to really want it online either
It's interesting that so many streamers that I've seen, when they start to get "real", they assume the audience is bored by that. In turn, the streamer feels this need to return to their streaming persona - where all the audience wants is for the streamer to continue being the real version of themselves. We the audience will even explicitly tell the streamer this, and yet the streamer refuses to believe it.
"Who am I to judge another when I myself walk imperfectly"
i hope she continues to get help. she really seems like a sad person and i think this therapy will really be good for her.
(before you call me a simp: i am a homosexual male. jfc.)
Feeling empathetic for a person who has gone through trauma does not make you a simp.
Can still simp for Dr. K I guess... :D
Never heard of Katerino before this video but damn do I relate to so many parts of her ❤
What stuff like this always reminds me of, is that every bad thing a person does or every "bad" person has a story and a reason why things are like they are.
I think understanding that and thinking about this in certain situations helps to keep your mental clear and calm.
No, as Dr. K also said, sometimes it's not as black&white and people just do bad because they can and nothing else. It's dangerous to think that everything can be justified somehow.
It's scary how many girls get sexually abused. Like every other girl that I get close to has been raped or touched when they weren't ready. Fuckin' scares me for the day once I have a daughter.
I literally had to hit up one of my friends after this just to see if she was okay.
Dr K is so wholesome I love watching his content.
That was really a powerful episode! I asked myself a lot of questions and did a lot of work on myself during this show. Props to Kate for coming on during this time
I never understood the concept of Internet witchhunts. What do people get out of it? A sense of righteousness I guess?
Most often I've found is it's just miserable people finding any excuse to be misogynistic. This whole thing with Carson and Kate wouldn't have happened if it was the other way around. People would have been giving Carson a pass and still end up treating Kate poorly. It's fucking gross.
@@ticklord i dont think you have any ground to stand on when you say that. These Internet celebrities have to face being canceled every day because of a comment they make so to say that everyone would just give him the pass is stupid and shows your lack of knowledge on that matter that in front of us. People arent being mysogynistic by going after someone who cheats, they are punishing the person for cheating, its the same way you would dislike and shame a person who cheated on lets say your friend. People go on these witchhunts as they believe the creator who got wronged is there friend and therefore they feel as if they are entitled to protect and defend them. Its not mysogynistic or anything along those lines. Its simply protecting/defend someone you care for.
Dont use misogyny as a way of describing this as anyone who has been on the internet for quite a while would know that no matter what gender you are, you are always at risk of being cancled. Id like to state also that cancel culture is terrible and stupid in case i came off as if i thought overwise.
@@ticklord WHAT?? So because a woman gets hate for cheating on 5 different guys that is misogynistic? Albert cheated on Lily and he will never have a chance to go live like she does ever again, she immediately got people subbing and donating again. That is fucking gross.
@@ticklord Now that's the stupidest shit I've heard in a long time. Don't bring your politics into this shit please. Doctor Disrespect is memed to death even on his own streams for what he did and there's an emote called ForsenCD (that refrences him) that people use whenever some talk of cheating happens. No one's getting a pass for anything so throw your bs politics out of here. I do agree that it's miserable people who witchhunt and it's not right but at the same time what Kate did is just as gross as what you're describing. She shouldn't be treated like human trash at all times (especially when she's getting therapy) but she's also not entitled to any sort of respect. She'll earn the respect and the trust of others when she A. Improves herself and B. Makes up for her inhuman actions.
@@ticklord this has nothing to do with misogynism
I had a similar thing happen with a girl who experienced the same things and was equally charming. It took a few years to get over but people react to trauma in strange ways and we cant hold it against them forever unless its murder or something as heinous .
I've learned a lot about this situation that originally was widley dismissed as excuses
I find it interesting how this 2 hour video has already that many dislikes after being uploaded for like 10 minutes.. kinda makes me question why some people even watch these as they don't really dislike what has been said in these videos but just dislike the person who getting interviewed for what they might have done in the past.
@Free Ochido becauze it is dr k HYPERS
@free ochido Oh ur one of those types of people WeirdChamp 😣
@Free Ochido well the same goes for likes but its just interesting how people have a certain perception of the person being interviewed and instantly hit dislike. I personally dont watch katerino and only heard about her after the whole carson drama but whatever call me a beta if you like to do so
@Free Ochido probably they saw it live and they liked it on youtube for better promotion
First things first *WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO BEFORE GOING IN THE COMMENTS SO YOU DONT GET INFLUENCED*
At first this video was really hard in the beginning for me to watch.
I knew the news about her and everything she just said acted and did just pissed me off.
I went in already with pre conceived notions and really thought she was trying to justify what she did.
But after the video I feel no longer hatred but I guess understanding.
And it was really good that Dr.k did this one without knowing anything about the situation , because he could speak with her effectively.
Now I wonder about myself how I can help someone when I already have certain notions and conclusions formed about them. Gonna do some thinking on that.
Thanks for this Dr.K
Despite everything, her nervous laughter makes me feel sympathy for her
Amazing Kate ; it takes a lots of courage to share what you have shared ..... much love 💐👍😍
she is so brave to go on here despite the excessive hate she has gotten. to be open and authentic about your trauma and how it has affected you in your adult life is something not a lot of people are willing to confess or admit to. so so so proud of Katerino. i wish her the absolute best. good work Dr. K
Brah she probably made like 10k in Donos that night she not so so so brave, but I respect it
@@snapbrogman2368 my dude...she opend up about her sexual abuse that is fucking brave. Sure shes a shitty person, but opening up about that is so brave and I HATE her.
I have to ask, do you have trauma? That stuff is not easy to open up about even to a professional
@@snapbrogman2368 do you have any idea how hard it is to publicly admit that you were sexually abused as a child??? to thousands of people?
@@weebman2915 Hate is a strong emotion. Why do you feel hate for a complete stranger, who has never done you wrong, or even knows you exist? Seems like a waste of energy, that could be spent on something positive instead...
@@chihuahuainacone she is a liar and a cheat. Both of which I hate due to events of my personal life either it be directly affecting me or indirectly (no I have not been cheated on nor have i) and that's why. I know hate is a strong word, and that's why I project it in such a way
Never heard of Katerino before but i can relate to what she's saying a lot. I feel like i really understand her on a deep level. I had the same thing happen with Mitch Jones. I felt like i REALLY understood him. I'm trying to figure out why. Why do i see myself in Mitch and Katerino so much and how i can use that to help myself.
They both depersonalize, aka push feelings down. Also rough childhoods
@@jrgenhgset4120 Yeah, you're right. I do the same thing. Had a rough childhood and i also lost my mom as a teenager. This is interesting to me.. even if it's kinda obvious. Skål.
@@Yese7 Yeah, i get what you're saying. But wouldn't Dr. K know that. Why didn't he correct her? I know what kind of depersonalisation you are talking about. I used to be quite the psychonaut. Some of my friends would experience depersonalisation after some horrible acid trips. It took them years to recover. But in this case i think we're talking about not letting youself feel emotions. Depersonalisation in the sense that you distance yourself from what you're actually feeling.
@@Yese7 Oh yeah, absolutely. I don't think Kate suffers from depersonalisation. True depersonalisation is hella crazy. I can relate to the feeling after tripping a lot but it never stuck with me, thank god. The term is probably not being used correctly. I don't think Kate knows what depersonalisation really is, but we get what she's trying to say.
Carson wants the drama from this to just be put to rest, there has been enough of that. Please, remember that.
It's also people like you who make the world a shittier place, you and your hypocrisy.
Since it doesn't affect you, you swept it all under the rug and called it a day.
A human being did something abhorrent.
It doesn't matter if someone directly tied to the incident forgives said person.
Im not fucking Carson.
I have my own opinion and rights.
FUCK Katerino.
Za Monolith DUDE you can tell carson himself doesnt want her receiving all the hate shes getting?? He wouldnt have donated otherwise. You can choose to not support her, but spreading hate about her is going against what he would like
@@suniex4309 *facepalm*
I literaly said I don't give a shit about Carson.
Just because he has an insight about the situation doesn't mean it's the RIGHT one.
You don't let people do wrong shit and turn your face away, that's why people keep doing fuckedu p shit, because they're ALLOWED to.
Za Monolith are you ok lol dude? we arent involved in this situation. We are random bystanders. Shes lost a bf, carson, and so many friends, and money/followers from this. Shes paying the consequences. We dont have a say in this its between the people involved and clearly the people involved want the immense hate to stop
@@fistofram5526 And what's your contribution? Making things only worse? You don't care about what's just, you're only looking for justification to hate someone over something petty and unleash it on them. I'd say that's so immature, but now I realize you're a kiddo... which immediately became self-explanatory.
these new label features are a really good addition they really help with finding specific topics
ive experienced depersonalization 1 time through a drug trip recently, it felt like i had 2 minds fighting with each other while feeling like you didnt know which is real and which wasnt. i personally dunno how you would turn your mind in your body off and live with the mind outside your body because both would have thoughts going on at the same time.....interesting
For someone who was sleeping around with so many people, the vaginismus segment was pretty surprising, thanks for the explanation Dr.K
she said on twomads stream that she never had sex with any of them
Thanks for uploading the "Interviews". They honestly feel more like a session to me.
I feel like in every talk with someone I can reflect something onto myself and I really like how you approach the different things.
Thanks for doing those talks even though I can most of the time only watch them here on UA-cam, I believe you are helping a lot of other people, not just the person you're speaking to :)
She's a charming and strong willed woman, hard to see all the layers to someone when you usually only get the surface in places like twitch.
Got balls there Dr K this one is hated.
Got mad love and respect for you though so I'll watch it regardless.
Listen closely, understand and don't judge
He talked to CEOs and Goldman Sachs bankers before he started doing this and those are arguably some of the most vile parasitic people on this planet.
He's a therapist. Doctors don't care what people did. They treat them.
DAMN!! Dr.10K you make me go through my childhood and revisit all the times i failed in life and all the emotions that comes with it..... over and over and over again.. understanding oneself is a hell of a process and you help me go through that and for that i thank you soo much i needed that.. my life is a big mess i mostly go on wihtout too much worrying about that but sometimes it comesback to me and watching your videos help me a big deal going through that and i really appreciate your work and i thank you for the bottom of my heart sir!!
What she did sucks, but I like her more now. I think she deserves love and happiness. I'm glad she's getting help.
No! She belongs to the streets, she ain’t sorry, she gonna do the same thing. Carson was waaaaay out of her league.
@@henryi534 Imagine looking up to carson LOL. He's not worthwhile, so he was just another stepping stone for her.
maypaki alam look, Vaginismus isn’t a message from god, it’s a medical disorder caused by past trauma. You aren’t born with it. She developed it because a person sexually abused her. Her brain associates penetration with that traumatic event
maypaki alam I know that, however you are not born with it and even if you could be the idea that god gave it to you because you were destined to be a virgin, is unscientific and incorrect. A person can chose what they want to do with their body, so if they want to recover from it, that is not going against any god. I hope you realize that
maypaki alam also, I checked out the blogs you commented on. I saw that the creator of the first blog responded to you and did not like what you said. I don’t blame her. That was an awful thing to do. It’s so much easier to live your own life and not worry what others do. I’m gay, and I used to be in a very religious community. Christianity scarred me deeply, however I know that not all Christians are intolerant of others. I have gotten told I’m going to hell, and that I’m going against the lord, but you know what? I don’t care, I don’t believe in God, but I don’t force my atheism on people. You shouldn’t force Christianity on people
this has to be one of the best/most interesting session i've seen in awhile.
The video has only been up for 16 minutes and it already has 20 dislikes. Please do not click dislike just because of Kate. Disliking the video only hurt Dr.K not Kate. 🤦🏽♂️
Perhaps they dislike because they don't like Dr. K inviting her on stream and giving her a platform and disliking is their way of showing their aversion. Not that I agree with that position, but I don't think most people viewing this channel are dumb enough to expect a dislike on Dr. Ks channel hurting her.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi i also think that way. But perhaps there's also people doesn't like her respond to Dr K's question. I tried to look at the newest comment and you can see some hateful comment to kate which, this is Dr K not Kate
@@Luftgitarrenprofi Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why some people wouldn't enjoy the interview, you have every right to dislike this video, but when the interview is over an hour-long I just feel like 16 minutes isn't enough time to form your own opinion if you like or dislike the video unless you already saw the full interview on Twitch. 🤷🏽♂️
@@TylerBlackRunIt That's not what I said at all.
My point isn't about rights or quality evaluation. It's about people disliking Dr.K for giving someone they dislike a platform. And I've also said that this isn't my view, but that you're likely straw manning alot of viewers, because you're ignoring a perspective.
My view is that Dr.Ks goal is to help people regardless of what they've done and especially invite more extreme cases that he thinks alot of people might relate to and draw some conclusions from that might enable them to help themselves.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi Lmao, you really took my comment the wrong way. You need to reread my comment again. I never said anything about your viewpoint, I was talking in general. I'm not straw-manning nothing, I'm just giving you my opinion, just like you are giving me your opinion. I totally understand where you are coming from, but in my second post all I was saying was that people should at least watch a good portion of the video before hitting the like or dislike button.
Dear Kate,
What you did was wrong, obviously. You already know that because youre a person with a brain and you also have been crucified by the internet. But, I dont think youre a bad person. I see a lot of myself in you. Im experiencing a lot of what you experienced. You speaking up and opening up more about your situation has really helped me feel a little less lost. And so for that, thank you.
facts
I disagree that she is a good person. Being a selfish and dishonest person with a good heart does not make you a good person. Your helplessness does not justify hurting other people.
@@azura5800 at least shes getting a lot of screen time going on these mental health discussions. really masks all the shittiness of her chronic cheating. look shes already got a ton of people flipping their opinion around. good strategic choice on her part.
AZURA I still think she’s a shitty person. Just because you’re atoning for what you did, doesn’t mean that the mistake you made and the hurt you caused others disappeared. I do not forgive cheaters period.
Shad0wmoses She seems smart and low key manipulative. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s using this to cleanse her public image. Once time passes, shell get back to streaming and everyone will forget that this whole shenanigan ever happened. I hate how the internet gives her a pass for cheating just because she’s a girl. The fucking double standards.
i first came to this video angry, i even commented that "katerino was canceled for a reason, she doesnt deserve her career back" and oh boy i have never regretted a comment more, i quickly deleted it in shame. I didnt sit down and give her a chance, and i realize now i have this problem alot. please if you came to the comment section before watching the video, and feel the same way i felt, just give her a chance, she really has changed as a person and i have never felt more proud. Thank you Dr K, you're a real legend❤
She probably hadn’t changed as much as your perception of her has changed. Context on the internet is a crazy thing
@@ArchAnto definitely a fair point and most likely true to most extent, but judging from the fact that she mentioned reflecting on her mistakes and understanding how to become better multiple times, even the fact that she was able to vent so much to Dr K even when she has a big problem with expressing her emotions really shows how she has put alot of effort in to making herself a better person
@NCR Trooper woah its almost like people take different amounts of time to recover and change. nobody said shes a COMPLETELY different person, shes well on her path to improvement and has definitely already changed some things
@NCR Trooper lmao please tell me more about how she is a sociopath because you're such a psychologist
NCR Trooper why should she be punished for something she cant control? if shes a sociopath, she couldnt control it.
Carson's donation be clutch though
Nah
True
Angel Castillo youre in the minority
IKIGAI
True, probably liked their own reply too
anyone have the timestamp
Dr K thank you for making these! I know this is probably not how therapy really and truly is but this has taught me a lot about myself and made me less scared to seek out therapy!
I had this video open and stopped right before the meditation part for a week or two. Not sure what was keeping me from it, but I'm glad I participated with it. Thanks Dr. K, keep up the good work :)
people who come here and dislike without watching the whole video is beyond me
@baker ikso ok
I realized that I truly hope she continues to receive excellent therapy, and learn how to process all of the awful things she survived because of one bone-chilling question I ended up wondering about in regards to her go-to defense mechanism of depersonalizing, disassociating, and deflecting from having to authentically process her triggers for pain, sadness, anxiety, and fear via laughter or jokes. It’s reportedly common that sexual abusers will trick or manipulate their victims, especially during the acts or moments of abuse, to make light of or manipulate them into expressing a reaction or emotion that does not reflect back onto them as the abuser the horrific reality of their act they’re committing in the moment. So, my heartbreakingly sad question is, did her abuser train/groom her to react as if her moments of torture/abuse should be funny or something to laugh about with them as opposed to awful and painful for her? Considering that possibility chilled me to the core of my soul. If not, and either way, I hope she achieves true healing.
Kate, you're alright. I understand your reasoning and your feelings and why you did what you did. In the end, it doesn't matter anymore, what's done is done.
I'm also a victim of sexual abuse and I feel like playing myself in the 3rd person, pretending everything is alright when it isn't.
I hope you get better, I know that it will be alright anyway. People will look at this video in awe, just like I am right now. You're so strong to be able to talk about this, I couldn't. But I guess you have talked to a therapist before, so there's that xD
Get better, I'm rooting for you.
Does that excuse her actions?
@@IKIGAIofficial No it doesn't. But still, you have to ask yourself - where is the threshold for forgiveness? Obviously she made a mistake - is it unforgivable though? Ultimately, everyone has to decide for themselves on that one, especially her ex-boyfriend and those she hurt.
In my view, things need to be forgiven if there is any peace to be found in the hearts and minds of either party - her or those she wronged.
@@Jac0bIAm id say the backlash is deserved for her actions and she should learn from it and grow.
but yes people shouldnt hate and cancel her for her entire life after this.
No, she’s not alright. Don’t excuse her actions just because you feel bad for her.
@@CrystalChrysanthemum right? like you can sympathize with people and understand that theyre victims of their own past but dont excuse them for shitty actions that they have done themselves.
I think something that happens on Twitch is that people forget that the streamers they watch are complex human beings with many flaws and will make mistakes because they are human. Accepting people for who they are looking past mistakes they have made will not in most cases lead you to believe the person is a horrible, soul-less mean creature. I can't say Kate is a bad person or a good person because I know some of her mistakes, all I can do is accept that the mistakes she made will have come from experience and bad decisions.
The video barely has any dislikes why’s everyone crying in the comments?
people will cry about anything
hahaha tbf if you look at his other videos, he doesn't get alot of dislikes. His like to dislike ratio is very disproportionate
don't play dumb, man. you know if a person of ill-repute is present in an otherwise pleasant youtuber's video, the first instinct of most people is to dislike.
Jack of course but the amount of dislikes isn’t large enough for every comment to be “stop disliking the video” ya know.
I imagine its preemptive
to everyone angry about people who are mocking those who dislike the vid so quickly:
this video does not ask you to like or forgive kate (from what i’ve seen). you are well within your right to be angry at her for what she did (i am too). the purpose of backlash is to make the person aware that they fucked up, and from what i’ve seen in this video, kate is aware. staying hyper-focused on her mistake does not reverse the cheating, it doesn’t heal her ex, it just makes her defensive, and it makes you unnecessarily hateful.
kate fucked up immensely. let her improve herself.
+1
The issue is the dislikes don’t affect her, it affects Dr. K’s channel. Also I think that you shouldn’t forgive her, but that doesn’t mean you should hate ber
Benjamin Robins i agree exactly
Let her improve herself? She is coming on the stream so that the tap will go back on and she doesn't have to change, if she was serious about improving she'd quit everything that has to do with the Internet and focus on her real life with her real friends, not take a 2 month break then jump on a mental health stream and push an agenda where she's suffering from trauma so that people will tell her how strong she is becuase she realised that fucking five dudes who just "coincidentially" happen to have a lot of money and fame while having a boyfriend and telling each one they're special is a seriously fucked up thing to do.
Niddhoggr as i said, i agree that she made at least 5 huge mistakes, and she really hurt those 6 men.
Also, you think she should just give up her source of income and a significant source of happiness?
Tears coming from my eyes for an hour. Her community will get past this eventually. Great interview from a PR perspective.
Hearing about her past was very disturbing… my heart goes out to her. I knew something wasn’t right the moment the infamous “news” broke out over a year ago and her reaction wasn’t shame or to hide like most girls, but she just “accepted” it. Like the way she reacted to everyone hating her was someone that thought so lowly of themselves in the first place that they thought they deserved all the hate, which isn’t normal. If one thinks that they’re “dirty” or unworthy of love at a young age, they will typically go in a self destructive path later in life. Because Kate was abused as a young girl by a man close to the family, she is unable to tell the difference between a good and bad guy and chooses unwisely. All of the men that Kate got involved with, I think she wants someone to love her because she is completely incapable of loving herself. She completely gave up on that idea long ago. This, coupled with the fact of her destroyed self concept (thinks she is “impure” due to sexual abuse as a child), the fact that she (like most broken women) think that the only way men will stay with her is through sex (even though she herself doesn’t even enjoy it) she is willing to let boys use her body if it means the boy will stay with her because she is terrified of being left alone. I saw in this interview the scared little six year old girl that still thinks that the sexual abuse she suffered was all her fault. Kate doesn’t need boyfriends, she needed a real friend. And I don’t think she has any. I think a lot of the boys that tried to get involved with her were just guys that were just orbiting around her in hopes of dating her under false pretenses of wanting to be “just friends.” I think this incident was one biggest examples of shameful misogyny on both genders. Meme videos, Carson fanboys rallying, I remember pokimane smirking at Kate’s “demise” when this all went down. It was just all so disgusting. I hope this girl finds the help she needs.
That's kind of naive to think, what if she's just straight up evil and you don't know. I guess it doesn't matter to you because she's pretty or has a cute personality.
man watching this really just made it hit me how kate is just a person with complex feelings and a past of things we don't know about
@Wilfy Derfliw forsenCD
That meditation at the end actually helped me deal with a painful memory a tad.Thank you, Dr. K.
Very interesting video and I respect you for treating her like a friend...giving her a save space to talk. When this all started I disliked her because she came across like this person who uses people to get famous but as this drama continued, I kinda got annoyed at how much this was blown out of proportion and the insane amount of hate... I could see that she wasn't cheating because she thinks she is extremely attractive or something but she has deeper issues... And I respect her for talking about it. I'm not excusing her actions just by the way... that's still horrible.
Dr. K, at 1:52:55 you said you need to process for a second because you are feeling overwhelmed. What are you doing in those moments to help yourself overcome those feelings?
I think this was a very good interview to show how even social media influencers, and entertainers are people too. I was quite surprised but also happy that Kate was able to share as much as she did about her life, how she felt about certain events, and also how she overcame them. I try not to judge others just from hearing one perspective as many things happened to me in my life as well, however I will admit it is easier when it is breaking news about some person on the internet I've never met before. I did judge Kate when I first learned about her and the incident but until now I didn't get to hear her side of the story and just sort of glanced at headlines and the such. Having Kate in this interview be as open as she was, was probably the most eye opening evidence to me that streamers are people too. You said it was okay to judge but why is it okay?