Roland Is In Trouble! This E-KIT Is CRAZY! El Estepario Siberiano Made It TALK!
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We’re looking into this kit for our church. Replacing an acoustic kit. I had always hated the sounds e-kits provided. After talking with a friends of mine that has this kit at his church and watching numerous reviews, I’m sold.
We have the pro kit and love it. This kit seems great
I've been watching a ton of reviews on this kit...it's honestly making me consider an electronic kit for the first time. The module alone seems revolutionary
I used to have a few acoustic kits and I bought two cheap alesis surge kits and put them together and hooked them up to my computer and ran superior drummer for the sounds and never looked back. I bought my FIRST dual set of alesis in 2008. I've bought 5, and went from superior drummer 2 to superior drummer 3. Still play acoustic SOMETIMES, but its really not worth the hassle, noise, etc. The sounds on this NEW high-end alesis kit seem to be on par with superior drummer, however, I'd have to grab a kit to do a shootout.... I make my own E-snares anyway so the snare I'm currently using would just be ported over into the new kit for the shootout. But the e-kits have been the way to go for years. Some of the stuff you gotta mod to get it to "feel" correct but its not much hassle and the long-term payoff is massive.
@@bryanharrison3889do you have any experience with the Roland digital snare and can you compare it to your diy e-snare?
E kits are good to have but the reason roland is considered the best is because of reliability. Trust me it's very easy to break e kit triggers. You can soldier them back together sometimes but then they'll just detach again. That shit almost never happens with roland or yamaha. But alesis? All the time
@@hugostiglitzracing866 Yepp! I've had my first Roland PD-21 kit since 1987. I ran through more brains (Yamaha PT-X8, Roland R-8, TD-7, TD-6) before EVER having to replace a single tom or snare pad. At first I had real Zildjian cymbals until worship leader (at the time) said find a way to quiet those down, so I bought some PD-7 rubber pads for cymbals, at first they were okay, but because of the composite graphite Aquarian X-10 sticks I use, the rubber started to "crumble". This did not happen with wood sticks on one I used at home for rudimental practice! Then I got some CY pads and every thing was great for quite awhile, until the triggers started to fail. It was only last June during Sweetwaters drum month I broke down and got a new TD07-KVX mesh kit because 2 of my 5 PD-21's finally (after 36+ years) started to mistrigger. I did have 4 Alesis Turbo Mesh (black on black) pads from eBay as replacements, but quickly took them off (after false triggering) after finding 3 more new 8" mesh Rolands for cheap on eBay, to go with my 3 10" mesh toms and 12" snare from KVX kit so now I have a "2 up 2 down and 2 over" (6 tom) setup with a double kick pedal. I wasn't happy with VH-10 hats though so I found a cheap set of stainless steel Mosico Mute low volume cymbals that I love with a real hi-hat again!
Saw the video when he dropped it. Awesome collaboration and the kids sounded freaking amazing! So did that guitar
I don’t think Roland has much to worry about. Yes the module is definitely a step above in some regards but you have the TD-50x where you can send each channel individually to the mixing board and this module you can only send left and right. Both still have yet to create a snare throw option, which most drummers use. The prime has some good features and a touchscreen would be awesome. But there’s a few thing the td-50x has above this set.
The crazy part I saw and no other drum company has done this is with rimshots you can do it 360 around all the drums normally you can only to this on the snare drum but to be able to it on all the Tom’s is pretty cool cause now you can do rimshots while actually hitting the Tom like on acoustic drums. Also the 360 cymbals with choke all around is pretty cool as well. Man did Alesis really step the game up on this set. The module itself is worth the price seems very simple to use and 10 inch touchscreen especially since it is a computer it has 128 Gb of Ram crazy. I still don’t know what type of processor or the cores of the cpu. That means you probably could even upgrade it to be even more powerful of a CPU and add more ram
Lots of e-kit companies have done this as there is a switch on the module that goes fom rimshot sound to cross-stick sound. Roland digital snare doesn't need a switch it knows from how you play the rim. The Efnote kits have a separate rim piece for cross-stick and in my opinion is better as you do not have to hit a switch that interrupts the playing. Lower-end e-kits have split rims to give you either sound or they do only have the one sound. If you think the 360° rim on the Strara Prime snare is a game changer you do not know much about electric drums or have only played cheap e-kits as most good e-kits have a playable 360° rim on not only the snare but on all the toms as well.
@@Iamadrummer I was talking the Tom drums have 360 rim shots did you even read what I said I point out it’s been common for electric snares for a long time but not on Tom drums like I said it allows you to actually play rim shots on the Tom’s like a real acoustic set. I said nothing about cross sticking that is totally different to what I was point out
@JoshuaCrawford...Yes the touchscreen is exactly what you think!!! I just visited Sweetwater yesterday and checked out this kit!!! Roland DEFINITELY will have to watch their six on this one! Alesis crushed it with this kit! It is exactly as advertised! Just wish Sweetwater used better headphones OR had it plugged into a speaker system or monitor!!!! Although they are rolling out updates... the only issue I had was getting the module's bluetooth to connect to my phone but thats minor.😁This will be my next kit for sure(expanded version from SWEETWATER!!!)🤘😎
That set looks AMAZING! dang, that monitor is clean. He's the perfect salesman for this kit.
Lots of reviewers talk up all that is great with the Alesis Strata Prime kit. You need to weed through those that really only show how good the kit is without really telling you the problems it has. The real honest reviewers will actually tell you the cons and flaws with the kit, and there are enough of those that I would not buy this e-kit. For instance crosstalk is an issue. You can adjust it pretty good in the module but it never completely goes away. The cymbals are a bit of an improvement from the Strike Pro Se kit but not as good as the competition. The hi-hat is a new design that does work but reviewers have said it is a little floppy especially in the close position so it makes the hi-hat weird and unrealistic to play. Also there is not enough sound definition between light and hard hits making playing with dynamics difficult. There are other flaws as well. 65Drums does a good job of explaining the good and bad of the Strata Prime kit. One day Alesis will come out with a winner but fir now the competition is still better and even for less money.
Hearing him talk about the different samples makes REALLY want to see him do a proper drum n' bass track with those boomy rumbling sub audible DnB/techno bass waves.
sounds like he assigned a china sound to the rim trigger of that tilted floor tom.
I’m a guitarist and use drum programs and drum machines and have found that Alesis has always stood heads and shoulders above the rest as far as sounding like a natural drummer.
I have an alesis dm10. My only complaint was the cymbals were really terrible. I upgraded the cymbals and the kick drum. The kick drum worked I just wanted the big round kick drum. If I upgraded the snare my kit would be edging up on the strata kit or the pro se.
For the price I’d still rather go for the TD-27. I’m looking to upgrade from my Surge SE this year as the hi hat takes me out of the experience constantly. I want something with the most realistic hi-hat, but also snare and ride. I want maximum articulation as I’m practicing in my room connected to my computer running Superior Drummer. Sounds and the module are not nearly as important as articulation, playability, and reliability
Alesis has been a company that's been up and down throughout the years, but you can't forget that they are one of the most important companies and innovators in digital audio history. I haven't tried this Strata Prime kit yet, but I hope that the hi-hats are better than on their Strike Pro kit since the Strike Pro hi-hats didn't register very good in my experience. The pads on the Strike Pro were really good though. I still don't think that any company can compete with Roland's TD-27/TD-50 modules in the sound realism department (just listen to the cymbals here compared to any video of the TD-27 or TD-50 modules), but I know that a lot of people rather use Superior Drummer, GetGood, Drumgizmo or whatever instead of the kits in the drum modules. The BFD software in the Strata Prime module is not too shabby though. I much prefer SD3 over BFD3, but it's still perfectly useable.
I play on this SAME kit every Sunday at 11 am......I like it way better than Roland more affordable and still accurate ENOUGH to catch everything you do...and the sound list😍😍😍😍
The bridge at 4:02 tho
Wow and damn!
(looks at his VAD 506)
Right bro i got one too... smh
Been on the nitro since it came out, modded it and the sounds it makes is amazing 💯🤙🏻wish I could the strada prime it would be out this world
I hear latency with the kick and snare
.. Sounds pretty good overall though.
Nah I went and played it and Roland has nothing to worry about.
Ill 2nd that. These ppl confuse the mix n master with the equipment.
elaborate?
@@WaftureRobin the hi hats are still an issue. The cymbals in general don’t feel great but that’s preference. The huge is the price point but I was impressed by the sound module itself. If I were Alexis I would’ve simply released the sound module by itself as an upgrade to the stroke pro and been done with it
I have a couple of electronic drum kits. My oldest is a Roland TD-9. I had a bash on it after hearing the tones of this e-kit. I’d have to say that I still prefer the TD-9 sounds!
8:07 get out yo flessshhh! hahaha!
His playing is great, but as far as sound goes I prefer my Yamaha by a big margin
I thought Alesis was already top dog for electronic kits. They're def expensive lol. I have a blue and silver Roland kit. Now the module on Estepario's kit, is absolutely game changing.
No lol they never were. There's at least 4 better brands including roland, yamaha, gewa, and a brand whose name is eluding me. The latter 2 are more expensive and less prominent but really good
Excellent video 👍😂🤣😂😂😂
Alexis is steppin back out there. I have 2 of their 90s era brains and even those do well in logic programming midi triggers
I have the Alesis nitro mesh kit. Alesis is honestly the best electronic drum company in my opinion.
if alesis can get the hi hat feeling right, roland might be in trouble.
I have used Roland td6 kx from 2008, zero cost, no cracked cymbals anymore no skin change. Ok sound, but this kit in the video sounds really good, like krim drums good.
Me too, and I've been able to choke forever...just don't use felt on your mesh kicks...it will eat them
@@rogerjones6033 I recently replaced my KD-8 to a WHD 8" Mesh Head Kick Pad, just to try if it gives me the bounce like a real basedrum skin. It works very well and very oricy compared to Roland orginal. Really good if you like to play double pedal or if you need the bounce.
@@FastTcX I have the (since '87) urethane smaller diam disk beaters for my Gibraltar double kick I'm using on the KD-10 tower that came with my new (June '23) TD-07 KVX kit. My main problem is the pedals aren't designed to grip the bottom as well and they slide, but Roland made their own kick pedals with Noise Eaters that I'm considering as my next purchase, but do I go with a double kick $450+ or 2 single kicks and another KD-10 tower? Decisions decisions! LOL
@@rogerjones6033 I did upload a drum video to my channel. 🤠
@0:47 No Diddy.😂 🚶🏾♂️
EES is a monster, an alien even!
''If you can choke it, you should marry it" But did he lie
Alesis' new flagship kit, Strata Prime is getting lots of attention. There are tons of video reviews of this kit, with everyone who has reviewed it saying it is the best e-kit of the year. And when you consider that this kit, when combined with the expansion pack which gives you another tom and two more cymbals for a total of 5 each, is still only half the price ($4449) of Roland's flagship VAD series drums, it is understandable why the undisputed big dog of e-drums may be feeling some heat. Be careful Alesis, you just might be playing with fire there.
Remember, DW was developing some new e-drum tech that got Roland's attention, so instead of welcoming the new competition, they just bought DW.
Don't get me wrong, I love what Roland is doing with their VAD full-size kits, but $8000 is water too deep for me to tread.
The kit may be ok, but the company doesn't back their warranties and the equipment breaks all the time. I've been waiting 6 months for a replacement cymbal and they just told me to keep waiting.
I agree! My alesis kit has broke all the wires in each head. Alesis refuses to back their product and that's a huge problem.
So that white powder makes him drum that fast.
No! That was an FX shot otherwise if it was there all the time, you'd see it all the time
This kit pulled me away from Roland being my first e-kit immediately. It's like Roland's +10K kit for $3500. It's way aesthetically pleasing as well.
That’s wild!!! I wanna trade in my Roland kv17 now!!!! 🥴😫😮💨 LmFaO!!!! “If you can choke it, you should marry it!!!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been watching him drum for a few years. That signature move just before hitting the crash was moving lol dude is an AMAZING drummer.
Ive been a drummer for almost 40 yrs. Never messed with electronic drums, so i really dont know anything about them, but i didnt know you could choke an e-cymbal.
My Roland CY pads have been chokable for many years...this is nothing new, but Sunday morning I will check and see if I can choke 360deg, but I don't see where it's really necessary
Can we HEAR him talk?
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Go watch the video homie
Regardless ,,I would say the music sounds very similar to Animals as leaders
It's easy to make an e kit sound good when you're playing metal. It's when you introduce a lot of dynamics that they get exposed. And I can tell even in this video that snare sounds as bad as the ones on my roland module if not worse
These e kits really need to be just used as midi triggers for drum programs. Otherwise you'll never get real drum sounds out of them
i might not have to use EZdrummer with this bad boi lol
....thats fukin ruthless....
......goddamn.
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Nah, this hype will wear off, the way it always does. It’s a release cycle with a ton of money behind it, and a killer player. BFD sounds alright but not on par with other VSTs. The playing is phenomenally clean of course, and the mix doesn’t require much, considering it’s not a full band. Very well done, but I’ve played it and it’s not special, it’s a corporation that bought another and integrated its components, the same way Roland bought DW then bought Versa Trigger, and integrated it, making “the world’s first wireless edrums” when they had existed for over a decade. This kit is swimming in the wake of the Pearl mimic and even the efnote pro. The efnote hi hat and cymbals smoke this as well.
Good kit, but naive to say this is game changing. It’s not. It’s worth the money though.
I just got a strike pro SE in Sept of 2023, then this thing shows up
If you buy one of these kits I want to go ahead and start a post for you on the Alesis group(s). “Can I get a little help, I just bought this set and I am having this problem…” You are welcome.
Sorry Alesis, I've been a live/session drummer for over 30 years and do many sessions using Roland TD50x brain and Roland pads triggering Drummer Superior 3. Alesis pads have hot spots and I haven't measured the latency but it's still pretty bad. Yes Rolands top end kit is double the price but it's more than 2 times better. Yes , I love the fact that Alesis has real drum samples but even then there is no comparison to Drummer Superior. If you want the best (by far) setup(and most expensive unfortunately) Roland TD50X brain and Digital ride and snare and newest gen pads are the way to go if you are professional drummer. Response, no hot spots, lowest latency, and tracking where you actually hit the drum. (positional sensing) Keeps Roland the king by far ... no I don't work for Roland.
if it can keep up with this dude its more that proven, may have to trade in my Roland VAD 506
But I like efnote pro 😂
sound mix fr
Also.. Can he play Monomyth?
about ime roland got some propper competition
Let’s face it,Roland is getting older….I love my EFnote.
Roland should be nervous. They haven’t put much work into their kits and their customer service is horrible.
After 30+ years I've played the guitar....I quit😂
Don´t quit my brother! keep playing and enjoying 🤘😈
Let the guy TALK!!!?!!!!!
Bro I thought Alesis went bankrupt?!?!?!
Roland lost the plot years ago, with there over priced jalopy kits , who in their right mind would buy a $20k ekit for practice let alone for gigs, ive been drumming for over 30 years & don't know anyone who owns a Roland top of the range kit they are just to expensive
Roland used to be the top e-kit manufacturer. Now I think there are equally if not better high-end e-kit brands. Also Roland is no longer a stand alone company as they were acquired by DW. That is why the DWe kit now works with the Roland td50 module. The Alesis Strata Prime e-kit has some very impressive things going for it especially the module. Unfortunately I can not concider any Alesis e-kits high-end as they are all flawed. I do think one day Alesis will come out with an e-kit worth buying. For less than the Alesis Strata Prime e-kit you can get an even better e-kit from a better brand. If you watch enough reviews on the Alesis Strata Prime kit they do seem impressive but most reviewers will also point out the cons and flaws of the kit. The module is really the the best most impressive part of the kit.
@@Iamadrummer 👍🇦🇺
Didn’t dw buy alesis?
I will tell you, I owned the most expensive Alesis kit and it sucked huge ćøčk!
The snare sounds like it's way too compressed and doesn't have the dynamics El Estepario has on an acoustic kit.
Guarantee the heads break in 4 weeks. The Alesis Strike pro was a huge return for me after a year of broken parts! I couldn't do it anymore. I went with a TD-50 and an ATV Digital kit.
Fûčk Alesis!
Machine gun effect still there
Why pay 3500€ for this when you can get a decent e-kit for less than a 1000$??, when it comes to the actual mix, nobody can tell if you used a 3500$ or a 800$ E-kit.
Besines its the module that costs like crazy not the actual kit.
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for ANYONE to imply that "roland" is in trouble THAT would suggest Roland is the standard (now coupled with DW) which they are AND why DW concurs is conclusive that NOBODY touches the standard setter CASE IN POINT look at the release of this product (which appears phenomenal) vs the release of roland/dw flagship NOW take a sec to think about what that flagship will be at technology re-release THIS product (which AGAIN seems phenomenal) will have to "chase" it down LOL which is what you ALWAYS have to do with standard setters.......PLZ disagree and your denial will prove EXACTLY why you think "roland" is in trouble lmao......any/all responses GOOD LUCK adding up
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Don't agree. Especially because if you really want a good sounding e kit you'd use a program like getgooddrums or superior drummer 3, not the module. Module sounds are never as good as programs that sample real drums
Plus roland is the best because of reliability. Alesis reliability has always been bad just like simmons
Form what I heard the module is a computer with 128 gb of Ram so you can easily add those drum programs strait to the module without a computer the module is the computer now. Name a module that can do that besides this one none. Everyone knows how expensive Roland is and the module doesn’t even come close to this one at least not yet and if Roland makes one everyone knows it’s gone to be twice as much. Roland hasn’t been that great in yrs especially there modules you spend all that money to run a program because you don’t like the sounds of the module.
do you want some of my Symbols you can have it for 1 minutes
They couldn’t get him a china cymbal???
Don't need one..
You can customize where u want the china sound he put it on the rim
they did… you can hear him use it through the video
Roland’s legendary v drums is having a big laugh 😆. I’ve played Alesia lots before. They are honestly not bad but pale in comparison to the likes of Roland or even Yamaha.
this review was absolutely useless, pure content theft, dont even understand half of what ur saying. ridiculous beyond words this is allowed to get views.
nope, alesis still doesnt sound real, i can tell, Roland still king
Do people really like the spund of this kit? I kinda hope the sing was played on like the default kit without a PC... cause I wasn't impressed. Snare sounds fake and weak, hithat sounds completely electronic. I can close my eyes and instantly tell this is an ekit... hopefully it's just the first demo before it's finalized or something
It sounds horrible...
The only "problem" I've found with e-kits is the consistency they have with their sound is also its downfall.
Too bad it's Alesis. Replacement, repairs, upgrades are all VERY VERY painful if you succeed at all. El Est... Makes it sound amazing but it's still Alesis garbage and lack of service.
The bigdrum is a little 'thin' in the sound?!? ..missing some beefy sound, a little..?!