A NIGHTMARE Of Pipes Get Removed! Trying Different Methods. S4E35
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Sparks are flying in the basement!
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This is another restoration video of our historic house. We saw this historic house for sale that had wonderful stone masonry and was mostly a brick house. The Romanesque architecture was amazing for this cheap house. With the slate roof and the masonry repair we had to do it was a great renovating house. We have to cope with termites damage and termite repair. The stained glass and fireplace mantels were amazing. If you are looking for abandoned historic homes or abandoned places look no further. We don't have any scary stories but a virtual house tour of the Mooreland House aka Mooreland Mansion aka Harrodsburg Castle aka Ashfeld Manor is a great place to follow.
Our DIY historic preservation videos are not necessarily how to videos. We get a lot of inspiration from some of our favorite channels like Wild Wonderful Off Grid, Pure Living for Life, Onboard Lifestyles, Mike Haduck Masonry and many more. We love our little castle on the hill.
Sorry guys but you're prime examples of how DIYer's get hurt or killed. No eye, respiratory or head protection. Wrong tools, wrong procedures and absolutely no knowledge of how to do anything. Would be comical if not so pathetic. Go rent a torch and be done it 30 minutes. It's black iron not galvanized.
Thanks for your input. Genius idea to use a cutting torch when there is no running water on the property. Your type of advice is what gets DIYers hurt or killed. Your advice would be comical if not so pathetic. =)
Prime example yet again. Blowing sparks on a gas bottle? You ever heard of a fire extinguisher. Not one in sight. Those pipes were no where near a floor joist. Someone who knew torch procedures would have had those pipes down in 30 minutes. Best not to reply when you lack experience or common sense.
Love to hear from you arm chair warriors. We have done more just in these videos than you have probably ever done in your life. Quit watching UA-cam and go enjoy life.
Just because you get from A to B means nothing. Please address my comments with something other than wise cracks.
You obviously haven't been watching our channel for very long. We appreciate you stopping by and putting in your .02 cents. You commenting helps us get this channel out to more people. Keep commenting if you are going to stick around. =)
You are both so cool calm and collected no matter what the project. That's probably one of the keys to your success on the job and in the marriage! I'm addicted to your videos but sometimes scared to watch!
We try to be as safe as needed. We certainly don't want to get hurt.
awesome video frank did a great job removing the pipes
There sure were a lot of sparks. =)
I met Billy and Gwen last September on a wine weekend at Ed and Anna’s Chateau LaGorce. Lovely people everyone! Such fun
That does sound like fun!
When you said you were going to remove all that I thought, that’s a pipe dream. But gosh darn it all you did it!
Nightmares are dreams too!
You two are a workforce.
We enjoy putting in a good day of manual labor. =)
Happy Sunday!
Thanks for the visit!
Another huge accomplishment!
It almost looks empty now.
HAPPY SUNDAY!!!
Morning!
It takes a lot to impress me as I have always said nothing is impossible. You guys impress me weekly with your creativity in getting the job done. Very nice work. I think I will revisit some of the early videos of the beautiful lady just as a reminder of how very far you have come.
Wow, thank you!
4 leaf clover on the boiler.
Shamrock ☘️ is three leaf.
Have removed a boiler and pipes myself.
Had as much fun as you folks are.
Thanks for the fun memories.
Good stuff! Thanks for the clarification. =)
It's great to see that you were able to come up with a method that was smart and 'not harder' but worked! As you were taking each piece down, I kept thinking that it might not bring much at the recycling center as you would want, but with as much weight as you have there, every pipe counts and, fingers crossed, that once Miss Moreland will be making you some money if you do take it to the recycling center.
Yep, that .05 cents per pound adds up. =)
@@moorelandhouse Throw in a couple of bags of soda cans and you'll be sitting on a gold mine 😂
=)
Sawzall with a metal cutting blade maybe too. Depending on how much of the piping you are planning to reuse.
The sawzall really made the pipes shake. We didn't want to loosen the stone foundation any more than necessary.
I love the sweet babies at the end! ❤ That was some fantastic feat y’all pulled off with that boiler! That must have takes forever!! Many blessings to y’all!😊❤
We take the boiler apart in next week's video!
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
enjoyed watching you wrestle those pipe maze down.
Wrestling is a great way to put it. =)
I think you guys are doing a excellent job...who cares what the professional thinks...your the one doing the work...
There is always more than one way to do things. We do it the way we want to and try to have fun with it. =)
"You fixed a plummers crack" lolol😂
We couldn't remember which video that was in. =)
Frank you scared me cutting those pipes over your head. Sparks were flying. Im glad that pipe didn't fall on your head! Good job getting them out. Slow and steady wins the race. Thanks for another exciting video. Cant wait for the next installment to see that room completely empty. What a big storage space you will have in that basement. Question, do you plan to finish out the basement?
The basement had plastered ceilings at one time. With the new plumbing, HVAC and electric going in, we might leave it exposed so it is easier to deal with for repairs.
This is a story of David and Goliath. You took the iron beast down!! You were indeed brave to face taking that down.
It was interesting. =)
A section of fire hose sliced lengthwise placed behind the torch flame with protect the would you are working around. It is naturally fire resistant Nomex and can usually be sourced free from your local fire department. It helps with the anxiety of combining 100 year old wood and fire. 🙂
Aha! That's a great idea!
Congratulations you got it or most of it down!
It was an interesting situation trying to figure out what to cut first.
It always strikes me as funny when someone tells you all the ways its wrong. Sure you make mistakes but you tried and learned how. You are awesome 👌
So true! Thanks for the support. =)
Well that was a beast to handle. We lived in an old house in Michigan. When the furnace went out, ( it was the size of yours) the plumber said that it was put in the basement before all the joists were put in, as there was no way to get it out unless they cut it apart like you did.
If i remember correctly, you have a large outside entrance to the basement.
We are sure that the boiler itself was installed in pieces. In fact, that's how we are going to take it out in next week's video. =)
Steam radiators have those little torpedo-shaped escape valves on the end opposite of the on/off valve feeding the radiator. Those valves would hiss steam when the radiator was filling. Also, a steam radiator system has no pump online, the steam pressure forces the steam thru the system; the hot water system uses a water pump to pump the hot water around the system. The hot water system has one pipe entering the radiator and a 2nd pipe on the opposite end to return the cooler water back to the boiler. In the steam radiator system the radiator has only one pipe supplying the steam to the radiator, and when the steam cools and condenses back to water it returns back to the boiler via the same pipe. The loud knocking noise of a steam radiator system is because of the cool water returning to the boiler in competition with the steam trying to push its way to the radiator in the opposite direction.
Yes, these were definitely not steam radiators.
A huge accomplishment! ... are you going to back to a gas boiler / hot water radiator heating (use those beautiful radiators!)?
We hope to. We will use pex lines instead of the steel though.
Just found your channnel. Beautiful house! However location not optimal. Are you planning to plant trees around the property line to hide Dollar stores etc? Fence in property? I’ve been watching Chateaux restoration in France and I recommended you to my friends who own a Chateaux in Bordeaux. LaGorce. Their channel is Chateaux Life. I am totally in awe that you are doing all the work yourselves. BTW my sone is an airline pilot with UPS. International. 747-8. What type pilot were you? I marathoned your channel after I found it. I love watching. Great work!! Sometimes checking out the internet for foreclosures can cause dreams to come true😊. Not being afraid of heights must be a requirement. Stay safe.
Welcome to the family! We are subscribed to and watch quite a few restoration channels. Frank is an international Boeing 767 pilot.
A nightmare of pipes - a new plural firm, such as murder of crows? Have a great week
That's a good one! Thanks for stopping by. =)
might want to get a furniture dolly. small square with 4 wheels that rotates in all direction.
We have some but never thought about using them for this. We will give it a try. Thanks!
I am a couple of miles from you. I would be happy to loan you tools.....but I don't have a portable band saw! lol.....sounds like every project I start, invariably I will forget something and have to go and get it. So frustrating!
We remembered it the next day. Spoiler alert... it worked well. =)
What about the spark’s from the grinder getting onto the wood?
It isn't that flammable. Gravity helped keep the sparks from settling on the wood.
It might be a warm day in Harrisburg before you get that thing out😂
It is quite bit of pipe. =)
@@moorelandhouse I agree, I just removed all the steam piping and radiators from my mom’s Victorian rehab project and it was quite the job.the radiators were heavy, and the boiler she had looked like a baby compared to the one you are dealing with and that was very heavy too.
Yeah, radiators are very heavy.
@@moorelandhouse Yeah surprisingly so.
That boiler was the beast in the basement. Not for long though! :) When you take all the pipes out, (I know you have to do that, but...) I wonder how hard will it be for you to put in the new pipes? Will you use the same openings? Will you have to make new openings? I've never done construction, so these may be silly questions, but I do wonder each time a pipe is removed.
All these pipes were put in after the basement was finished. When we go back with new plumbing we will probably use pex tubing which will go through the floor joists. It will be a much cleaner installation.
they make a battery portaband saw. and use metal blades. cuts up to 4 in pipe.
We forgot our portable band saw that day. We use it in next week's video. =)
So what type of heating system is replacing the Goliath? Are you going to try forced air so you have AC?
We don't know yet. We will try to have a plan once we get all the exterior stuff done. We do plan on putting in AC.
A good Sawzall with a metal cutting blade would make short work of most of the pipe work...
Thanks! We have avoided using a sawzall because the shaking disturbs the stone walls.
I think a heavy duty Sawsall and a few packs of high quality metal cutting blades would have made short work on that pipe removal. In fact I am sure it would have. It is great to see you are saving a wonderful building. Keep up the good work.
We did some cutting with the sawzall but it shook the pipes too much for us to feel comfortable with not dislodging anything in the stone foundation walls.
It just takes practice to get rid of the shaking.@@moorelandhouse
My husband is a Mai t mechanic he said use a saw saw if you don't want sparks when cutting those pipes
That is good advice. We don't use the sawzall because it really shakes the pipes and disturbs the stone foundation.
At first glance, the pipes looked as if they were going to fall apart on their own, and there was so much strength in them. The torch and ceiling boards could be a disaster though, the sander managed. It's a shame about the boiler, it's probably old and maybe someone interested in it will come forward? I look forward to continuing to get rid of the pipes, see you there👋. Minni and Mia so polite🤭
Yes, the pipes were very rusty but still robust.
@@moorelandhouse 💪👍
That looks like the steam plant in Ms Mooreland was a very high end conversion from coal to fuel oil in her day. It looks like a robust commercial installation late 40’s. Back when things were overbuilt to last and US iron and steel were the standard choice of material used to produce virtually everything needed to heat cool and move water.
It is kind of a shame we lost much of this technology to time
This was a natural gas boiler. They probably used coal at one time though since there was an entire basement room they used to store it in.
@@moorelandhouse The boiler was made by the American Radiator and Standard Sanitary Corporation, a company that formed in 1929, so that's the earliest date. Post-WWII sounds about right though.
Thanks for the information. We learn so much from the comments.
Re the title, 'Nightmare of pipes', Perfect title, for what a maze, what is what... Now this was another challenge & somehow you folks pulled it off..
We had fun trying to figure out the best way to remove them with the least amount of cutting.
Not a pipe dream anymore. 😊
The nightmare is almost over. =)
I wonder if a local scrap metal company would be able to safely remove the old piping in the basement for free...given they could take the old pipes and metal once removed.
It isn't worth it to them. Steel and iron only get .05 cents a pound.
If u don't get someone to come and do termite treatment u won't get rid of them they will start on ur new wood if u don't get treatment and brush on the new as u go 😊
We have extensive experience with termites. Thanks for the advice.
Undoing a jig saw puzzle. Super fun to watch. Not so much I. Doing it. Will you take all the metal to a scape dealer for coins to buy your new Mercedes Benz? Also nag, nag, nag. You should be wearing a hard hat. Have a great week.
We just stay out of the way of falling debris. =) We do plan on scrapping the metal.
I see yall work smarter not harder! Go Team hogtown!
That is a requirement on most things that deal with this huge mansion. =)
Y'all know what you are doing. My house...not so much. It's a DIY nightmare. lol. Fortunately it's a 1936 craftsman farmhouse with 1 level and a stand up attic but just down the middle. Not the gorgeous behemoth you are tackling! ... We are moving out into an RV so the house is empty. Hubby is going to tell us what needs done each week and my son and I are doing demo, When hubby comes in he and our son will be repairing and replacing. I'll help some. I'm scrawny so they are afraid I'll get hurt but I am from a generation of "I am going to try"! My doctor said.. have you, do you... He looked at me and said. Forget it. We are from the same generation. I know the answers... lol! I am studying YT and plan to start recording our journey.
That sounds like a fun project. Let us know when you begin so we can subscribe.
Not wearing a respirator? Cutting cast iron produces iron oxide. Iron oxide is associated with Pulmonary Siderosis, a lung disease. Also iron dust is combustible.
A dust mask will not help much. You need a sealed respirator.
We didn't cut much cast iron.
You probably have enough scrap metal that can be sold and buy you both lunch.
Oh yeah! At .05 cents a pound it's gonna be a payday!
That's a lot of scrap metal
We will find out soon when we haul it off. We should have a trailer load pretty soon. =)
locally in my area is somewhere five and half cent a pound. looking at your "mess" and the boiler, I am guessing four hundred and fifty pound? ah have not disassembled old mess of a pipes before (one or two pieces yeah, but not the whole thing).
I saw somewhere regarding cast iron boiler, said to be assembled in sections, sealed together with bolt rod, and zinc. the chisel remark meant to split where the zinc seal is separating back into sections. the bolt rods has to be unscrewed and extracted before application of chisel separation.
I also heard there are people that will buy boilers sections and restore them for vintage reuse. I do not know if such statement carries weight.
That sounds about right for the price per pound. We got a comment last week about how to disassemble the boiler and it worked really well. The video will be out next Sunday. =)
You need something better to cut through it or go rent a torch and save yourself a lot of headache.
We have a cutting torch but didn't even consider if because of the fire risk. We don't have running water inside the house. We remembered the portable band saw the next day and it was fantastic. =)
Get yourself a can of WD40.
Frank, after watching you Almost get hit in the head a few times! Next time please wear a hard hat for overhead work.
The camera angle made it seem closer than it was. We always stay well out from under anything we cut down above our heads. Gravity works well and makes heavy things fall straight down. =)
@@moorelandhouse ok then 👍
Be a little money for you if you sold it for scrap
Yes, it goes for about .05 cents per pound.
Maybe you meant to say "try to break the unions" like Ronald Reagan?
Well, government unions shouldn't be allowed anyway. =)
Acting.
Not sure what that means...
OMG code 7700 hard hat! safety goggles!
We made it safely. Thanks for your concern.
🪱🪱 Boy those people upstairs sure are noisy. I'll pound on the floor and make them stop. No no! Why not? ( Whispers) Fish bait! Fish bait! Oh! I love those people!
We don't fish so it would be safe. =)