I remember watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit as a kid and enjoying it for the cartoons; the jokes were over my head. I studied film, screenwriting, and film making in college and came across Who Framed Roger Rabbit again and I was blown away by how PERFECT it was. Like you guys said: everything that is set up is paid off. The story has irreducible complexity; you can't remove a single story part without removing something set up or paid off elsewhere. On top of that, BOB HOSKINS was amazing. Everything was just awe-inspiring.
1:24:00-1:25:00 One could argue that Judge Doom doesn't always have these abilities at any time but "Only when it is funny" and Doom himself finding murdering others funny is enough for him.
First saw this film in 1995 when I was 5 years old. I was in the hospital following an appendectomy. Someone got a tape and played it on the TV in my hospital room. After listening to this commentary I think I'm due for a re-watch :)
One of my favorite movies. I loved it when I was a kid and I loved it even more as time went on. This is by far one of Robert Zemmick's best movies, right up there with Forrest Gump and the Back To The Future trilogy. It's ashamed that his most recent movies didn't do that well.
I'm inclined to agree. I'm not sure I'm a big Zemeckis person but I would say this is his strongest followed by the Back to the Future films. And i do admit to having a soft spot for A Christmas Carol...Not perfect, but I mostly enjoyed it.
I enjoyed this film when I was a child and enjoyed it even more as an adult. Its like Ghostbusters in how you can enjoy it on different levels and the more adult jokes will go over the child's head yet the adult can enjoy it on a total different aspect.
The cinema is the State Cinema in Grays, Essex which still stands but is in a sorry condition now days although its being converted in a Wetherspoons pub. They also filmed Deeper Underground music video too there.
1:06:42- The gun similarity between Possum and Doom while on surface appears to be a coincidence; but there’s a theory going around for a long time that Doom’s actually Pistol Packin Possum, due to the latter’s red iris eyes and implications that he’s getting back at Roger specifically for stealing his spotlight after he fell out of favor from the Hays Code.
The short that followed Prince and the Pauper was the infamous Runaway Brain short. Mickey made a couple more theatrical appearance. One being in Fantaia/2000 (that is the animation that followed the re-instated Sorcerer's Apprentice sequence) and Get a Horse. Also, the unicorn at the end is from The Pastoral Symphony section of Fantasia.
1:07:39: "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" pulls enough new elements from other sources that it isn't a straight retelling of Chinatown's screenplay. That being said they have a lot of elements in common: Both films center around a private detective who's been emotionally damaged by his experiences in a Los Angeles minority ghetto. The titular Chinatown of the original film, 'Toontown here. And both characters share an animosity toward the representatives from their respective minority groups, Jake toward Asians, Eddie toward 'toons. Both films involve said detective being hired to gather evidence of an illicit affair, and in both cases, the gathering of that evidence is a prerequisite for a larger scheme where the detective is driven to clear his name. Both films involve the murder of a business tycoon, Hollis Mulray, the water commissioner in "Chinatown", the gag-factory owner Marvin Acme in this film. The fem fatal in both films (Mrs. Mulray and Jessica) are sheep in wolf's clothing; both are introduced as having cheated on their respective husbands, and yet are ultimately revealed to be driven by more virtuous motives. I'd even argue that Kathleen Turner's performance is an homage to Faye Dunaway's work in Chinatown. Both schemes center around the urban development of Los Angeles, the Water company rerouting in Chinatown, and the plan to create a freeway in "Roger". And finally, the scene in Maroon's office (where Roger is shown the pictures of Acme and Jessica) recreates almost beat for beat the opening of "Chinatown" but it remixes the blocking: In the original film, we start on Curly siting in front of Jake and becoming emotional as he examines the photographs of his wife, then going to the window and smashing his hands on the the venetian blinds, after which he drinks a shot of whiskey offered to him by Jake. In "Roger", we start with Roger smashing his hands against the venetian blinds, then he goes to the desk and is shown the pictures, after which he is given a shot of whiskey.
I wish though too! Edit: I looked into it and according to this site: disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cameos_in_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit they were scrapped for legal reasons, but a storyboard frame still exists that shows them! You can check it out here: jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2014/05/08/storyboards-reveal-what-marvin-acme-s-funeral-in-quot-who-framed-roger-rabbit-quot-would-have-looked-like.aspx Its really a shame they weren't in it since they are some of the best classic cartoons characters around.
A really interesting conversation on a unique modern classic. Maybe now that you've got some great and insightful conversations going you can maybe do the Star Wars OT movies?
1:01- at least until Disney starts buying Warner Bros. Considering they own Fox, Star Wars and Marvel- it’s very much a possibility they could try to go after them next.
I remember watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit as a kid and enjoying it for the cartoons; the jokes were over my head. I studied film, screenwriting, and film making in college and came across Who Framed Roger Rabbit again and I was blown away by how PERFECT it was. Like you guys said: everything that is set up is paid off. The story has irreducible complexity; you can't remove a single story part without removing something set up or paid off elsewhere. On top of that, BOB HOSKINS was amazing. Everything was just awe-inspiring.
1:24:00-1:25:00
One could argue that Judge Doom doesn't always have these abilities at any time but "Only when it is funny" and Doom himself finding murdering others funny is enough for him.
First saw this film in 1995 when I was 5 years old. I was in the hospital following an appendectomy. Someone got a tape and played it on the TV in my hospital room. After listening to this commentary I think I'm due for a re-watch :)
Awesome commentary guys, thanks for the whole thing 😁
One of my favorite movies. I loved it when I was a kid and I loved it even more as time went on. This is by far one of Robert Zemmick's best movies, right up there with Forrest Gump and the Back To The Future trilogy. It's ashamed that his most recent movies didn't do that well.
I actually consider this to be Robert Zemeckis’ best film, even more than Back To The Future and Forrest Gump.
I'm inclined to agree. I'm not sure I'm a big Zemeckis person but I would say this is his strongest followed by the Back to the Future films. And i do admit to having a soft spot for A Christmas Carol...Not perfect, but I mostly enjoyed it.
You are insane. BTTF is his masterpiece.
I enjoyed this film when I was a child and enjoyed it even more as an adult. Its like Ghostbusters in how you can enjoy it on different levels and the more adult jokes will go over the child's head yet the adult can enjoy it on a total different aspect.
Great Commentary! Very informative and enjoyed hearing from Tim P. Keep it up guys.
The bullet you're talking about is played by Pat Buttram from Green Acres. He was indeed the Sheriff of Nottingham in the animated film.
magical movie
Surprising how they took a very adult novel and turned it into a movie for kids and it worked really well
Please do a retrospective on the star wars prequels
I love this film; I always have.
40:47 - Rain Man was actually the biggest film of 1988. Who Framed Roger Rabbit was the second biggest film that year, I believe.
The cinema is the State Cinema in Grays, Essex which still stands but is in a sorry condition now days although its being converted in a Wetherspoons pub. They also filmed Deeper Underground music video too there.
1:06:42- The gun similarity between Possum and Doom while on surface appears to be a coincidence; but there’s a theory going around for a long time that Doom’s actually Pistol Packin Possum, due to the latter’s red iris eyes and implications that he’s getting back at Roger specifically for stealing his spotlight after he fell out of favor from the Hays Code.
I believe the weasels were taken from the 1940s double feature movie The Adventures of Mr Toad and Ichabod Crane
The short that followed Prince and the Pauper was the infamous Runaway Brain short. Mickey made a couple more theatrical appearance. One being in Fantaia/2000 (that is the animation that followed the re-instated Sorcerer's Apprentice sequence) and Get a Horse. Also, the unicorn at the end is from The Pastoral Symphony section of Fantasia.
The question mark (?) being placed on a movie’s title was often seen as a curse.
remember watching this in the cinema, i would have been 11 years old.
Still the Gold Standard for combining live action and 2D animation.
Paul Reubens originally voiced test footage for Roger Rabbit.
I have a memory of going to see this in the summer as a kid, however, it says it was realised in December in UK?
1:07:39: "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" pulls enough new elements from other sources that it isn't a straight retelling of Chinatown's screenplay. That being said they have a lot of elements in common:
Both films center around a private detective who's been emotionally damaged by his experiences in a Los Angeles minority ghetto. The titular Chinatown of the original film, 'Toontown here. And both characters share an animosity toward the representatives from their respective minority groups, Jake toward Asians, Eddie toward 'toons.
Both films involve said detective being hired to gather evidence of an illicit affair, and in both cases, the gathering of that evidence is a prerequisite for a larger scheme where the detective is driven to clear his name.
Both films involve the murder of a business tycoon, Hollis Mulray, the water commissioner in "Chinatown", the gag-factory owner Marvin Acme in this film.
The fem fatal in both films (Mrs. Mulray and Jessica) are sheep in wolf's clothing; both are introduced as having cheated on their respective husbands, and yet are ultimately revealed to be driven by more virtuous motives. I'd even argue that Kathleen Turner's performance is an homage to Faye Dunaway's work in Chinatown.
Both schemes center around the urban development of Los Angeles, the Water company rerouting in Chinatown, and the plan to create a freeway in "Roger".
And finally, the scene in Maroon's office (where Roger is shown the pictures of Acme and Jessica) recreates almost beat for beat the opening of "Chinatown" but it remixes the blocking: In the original film, we start on Curly siting in front of Jake and becoming emotional as he examines the photographs of his wife, then going to the window and smashing his hands on the the venetian blinds, after which he drinks a shot of whiskey offered to him by Jake. In "Roger", we start with Roger smashing his hands against the venetian blinds, then he goes to the desk and is shown the pictures, after which he is given a shot of whiskey.
I love who framed roger rabbit, also the dr who episode ure on about is called the greatest show in the galaxy
Was always disappointed that Tom & Jerry and Popeye didn't make it to the final cut of the film. They were at one time scheduled to be in it!
There is a deleted scene involving RK Maroon’s funeral, where Popeye and Bluto would appear. Tom and Jerry don’t appear at all, but I wish they did.
I wish though too! Edit: I looked into it and according to this site: disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cameos_in_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit they were scrapped for legal reasons, but a storyboard frame still exists that shows them! You can check it out here: jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2014/05/08/storyboards-reveal-what-marvin-acme-s-funeral-in-quot-who-framed-roger-rabbit-quot-would-have-looked-like.aspx
Its really a shame they weren't in it since they are some of the best classic cartoons characters around.
A really interesting conversation on a unique modern classic. Maybe now that you've got some great and insightful conversations going you can maybe do the Star Wars OT movies?
U a racist bro?
Please do a commentary or retrospective on Lovely Bones.
Chris Londo Haha yeah sure..😒
Retrospective next??? You have tackled some 80s classics, not all of them...
As posted on my community tab im working on the Stallone movie 'Daylight'.
Oliver Harper Ok. 👌🏻
@@OliverHarper cool I have a soft spot for daylight
Please can you do a retrospective/review, or commentary for...A FISH CALLED WANDA!
1:01- at least until Disney starts buying Warner Bros. Considering they own Fox, Star Wars and Marvel- it’s very much a possibility they could try to go after them next.
Live Action Remake of Who Framed Roger Rabbit confirmed.
Der Maus is hungry...
Don't give them any more ideas... Just don't.
wow wow
So no more retrospectives and reviews, huh?
I posted a review last week, Bad Boys and now working on Daylight as the next R/R.