Back to the Future Part 2 Commentary (Podcast Special)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Back to the Future Part II Commentary with Oliver Harper and Brad Watson.
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I make an error with the dates twice near the beginning referring to alternative 1989 when I mean 1985. I was getting confused with the date its set and when the film was released.
Too late. You've lost all credibility. :D
lol bit harsh
Can I just say these recent commentaries have been great. Brad‘s enthusiasm is contentious, and as I’m nearly 40 years old(f**k!!!!) I can relate to a lot of the stores and experiences spoken about in these commentaries. Plus there is always some good wee golden nuggets of info that I find out about the relative movie.
Keep up all the great work, as it’s really appreciated
Thanks Craig for your feedback!
Who on earth comes to a Oliver Harper commentary and leaves three dislikes already?
james lyddall Duncan Casey, Richard Jackson and Pierce Brosnan 😝
"Maybe you shouldn't be liking here"
David James what’s that quote from?
Taffin (1988) It's a classic! Check out Pierce's delivery here: ua-cam.com/video/tXcgt6l_LcA/v-deo.html
David James haha, of course. Nice one.
I don’t know when it became the popular norm to call this entry the, so-called “worst”. This one, for me, utilized time travel in the most interesting of ways. Forward, backward-lateral, back to the original. It’s a wild ride and everyone is giving their all.
Yeah I noticed that too, When I was growing up this was always considered the best one, at least between me and my friends. looking at it now I can see how its a bit messy but its so much fun and inventive its doesn't matter...at all.
Loved it as a kid but as you get older you realise it suffers from not being a complete film on its own. It's a bridge between parts 1 and 3.
There is actually 4 Delorians in 1955, not 3. Marty's from BTTF 1. Doc's buried from BTTF 3 Doc's from BTTF 2 and Biff's from 2015.
Nice! Never thought of that.
Yep. For a couple of hours at least.
I wonder what would happen if they crashed into each other, considering that they're all made of the same atoms...
Rich Mond You've been watching Timecop haven't you?
Same as any car crash
Am I crazy or is there some foreshadowing going on in the pattern of Doc Brown´s shirt?
And I felt clever when I realised Marty sees the bit of A Fistful Of Dollars where Clint uses a metal plate as a bullet proof vest in BTTF2 and does the same trick himself in 3. Also explains why he calls himself Clint Eastwood, he's got that film fresh in his mind. Doc also mentions in 2, how he thought he'd like to settle down in the Old West, but now he's decided to destroy the time machine he never will. So instead, he'll move to studying the universe's other great mystery, women.
What about the Pattern on Doc's Shirt!?
@@maloperverso8118 His shirt's adorned with horses and trains, both major elements (well, only one of those, actually) of Back to the Future III.
Nice commentary. Now... when are we getting the commentary for part 3? :)
Anything BTTF related on this channel is a A+ for me.
Not only were the power lines behind the Mcfly residence, but they were real and continue to be behind the actual house, in Roslyndale Avenue Burbank. Biff's casino was actually filmed (prob just 2nd unit shots) at the Plaza in Vegas.
While I'd certainly say the part 1 is the best (it's near perfect), I still can't decide which of the sequel's I prefer, part 2 or 3. When I was younger I always liked part 2 more because of all the future stuff but over the year's and being older and wiser (I believe anyway) my love for part 3 really grew. I don't see them as three movie's but one movie split into three parts much like the Lord of The Ring's trilogy.
Crispin Glover tells a different storyt about being recast and Bob gale comes like the bad guy in the situation if you can find the interview with him about it it's actually pretty interesting
Teen Wolf Too was '87.
Bad sequels of '89 might include Karate Kid III, The Fly II, Nightmare on Elm Street 5, Star Trek V (yeah heavy use of Roman numerals back then.), Lethal Weapon 2, Friday the 13th VIII, Halloween 5, and Henry V (never did see Henry 1-4 ;) and finally, Fletch Lives.
My god, though. That must mark the year where sequels became the dominant form of movie.
Lethal weapon 2 and Fletch lives are great
You got a nice voice and a based opinion. I just cant watch those 2 hours commentarys but i love your reviews. Will you do more reviews in the future?
New Retrospective out next week on Johnny Mnemonic!
Brilliant commentary, enjoyed listening to it immensely - and I didn't even watch the film along side it!
I would be interested to hear yours and Brad's thoughts on one problem with the second film.
In the first film, after Biff was knocked out we didn't see him again until we got back to 1985 and it was a perfect transition seeing how he was now completely submissive to George and that George had not only triumphed over Biff, but also over his own demons.
This film throws a spanner right in the works. Biff gets up seconds later and has apparently completely forgotten what just happened with George. Plus he hasn't changed in the slightest, which really undermines the idea that George's punch had any impact whatsoever. In the first film you could argue that Biff was used to Marty standing up to him but the idea was that being completely knocked out by George was a total shock and wake up call for him....plus Biff was essentially George's insecurities and fears manifest in human form, so the metaphor was that George is able to overcome his own demons in that moment. Having Biff get up seconds later, completely forgetting George, being no different and essentially going after Marty/Calvin AGAIN just ruins that.....not to mention that if was meant to have regained consciousness so quickly in the first film and not changed at all, why did he not go charging into the dance to confront George again?? Either he was unconscious for ages, or he was completely changed by this event and didn't mess with George again. However you look at it.....it just dismantles the events of the original!
Good points. 👍🏼
Maybe the second dose of manure is what changes him in this movie.
we hear one of you vaping in parts of the commentary!
Watched along for this one - you've both given me a LOT more respect for this from a technical point of view (as if it needed it!) - usually I'm so wrapped up in the fun storytelling and great performances you miss some of the amazing stuff they pulled off here, but surely that's the point! Most of it is seamless. As Brad says, it's magical. Can't wait for BTTF3!
Thanks for your feedback mate!
Great review! Please animate the background, it gets burned into my screen 😂 Always thought Doc wore a Hawaiian shirt, but just noticed it's a steam train with people riding horses running alongside it, like they do in BTTF 3.
There's an interesting thing which only guitar nerds will notice with the new scenes of Marty playing on Marvin's Gibson ES-345: in the original, the 12th fret inlay is a single parallelogram, as opposed to dual parallelograms like every other inlay, but the new scenes have the standard dual inlays at the 12th fret. Look for it.
How did you guys not mention little baby Elijah Wood at the Wild Gunman arcade?
When Doc is explaining alt 1985, one of the headlines is "Nixon to seek fifth term", almost certainly a reference to The Watchmen comics.
The fact that Doc has a briefcase full of money from various time periods suggests that he's already been to various other time periods off camera. What other possible reason could Doc have for carrying around US currency from 1955 (ESPECIALLY this year), 1934, 1923, 1917, 1914, 1902, 1875, 1864, and 1861?
Is it just me or does Brad sound almost exactly like Ray Parlour (ex Arsenal midfielder)?
28:00 It would've probably been more convenient to do the old age makeup stuff first and then just remove it all for the alternate take.
I think as kids we all enjoyed this one most in a way because we loved the 2015 stuff. Upon reflection it does kind of lack the heart and substance of the first film, becoming more about the physics of time travel than anything more human, but the 'darker side of time travel' is still a fascinating (and frightening prospect).
Doc Brown wins eating competition ... hahaha hilarious.
Sucks you can't hear dialogues from the films themselves while they're doing commentary for it. Audio should at least come out of one of the speakers!
You're supposed to watch your copy of the movie whilst listening to this commentary.
I turn the sound down low on movies and mostly listen to them talking but I leave the sound of the movie at a very low setting.
Probably be hit with multiple copyright strikes or some other similar thing, I suppose.
Have to disagree with the assessment of sequels being "corporate entities", especially when it takes the series in a new direction or continues the story from the previous film. See the Star Wars OT, Aliens, Star Trek II: Wrath Of Khan and The Lost World.
Good thing about this film, unlike the second films in Matrix and Pirates of the Caribbean, is that it is a complete story with a plot that is resolved. The Biff stealing the almanac conflict isn’t a cliff hanger to be resolved in the next film. All the plot threads in the other films get no resolution and were crap splits. Doc going back in time and stranding Marty is the hook for the next film.
Where is alternate Biff's 1985 Marty? Rehab? Military School? Prison?
Nathan Lemire Switzerland. Biff tells Marty when he arrives on the scene: “You’re supposed to be in Switzerland, you little SOB!”
Helo helo hola
When I was a kid, I loved 1. For a long time I thought all of the cool stuff in 2 made it the best and 3 was whatever. As an adult...1 is clearly the best and then 3 and now 2 is the least best. I love all 3 but in that order.
For me BTTF2 is the weak one, any sequel which throws the rules and reality of the first film out is asking for trouble. There's loads of plot holes that have been highlighted in many goof shows etc but the one main glaring plot hole of this film is you cannot go into the future and see yourself, in the first film when Einstein went one minute into the future the present time doc and marty had to wait that minute to see Einstein again so if they went 30 years into the future, to everyone else doc, marty and Jennifer have been issuing for 30 years
Because Marty and Jennifer were supposed to return to 1985 after their mission in 2015 and resume their lives. That's why they were able to see their future versions. On the other hand Einstein wasn't suposed to return one minute into the past after his first travel.
@@Astrotrain78 but the future cam only be assessed from the pint of time travel forward, if you travelled 30 years ahead I would have to wait that 30 years to see you to everyone else you have been missing and then you show up 30 years later having not aged
"you cannot go into the future and see yourself"
Do you do much time traveling yourself?
Excellent, listening to this while eating my dinner!
Yaaay freedom! :3
same here! lol
My one and only gripe with the film is the ending, they shouldn't have shown clips from Back to the Future part 3, just left us on a cliffhanger.
Crispin Glover was more upset about, not that they replaced him. But according to him, and I do agree. They took the cast of his face from the first movie they used to do the older George make-up and used that cast to make a mask to put on the other actor that replaced him to make it look more like it was actually Crispin. I believe he does have a point. They may own the character, but do they own Crispin's face to do with what they want without pay or consent?
gutz1981 yes that’s how I understood it
Was debating what to do with my evening and this popped in my sub box!
Enjoy! Brad does a great job in this commentary, lots of talk on visual effects because they're brilliant in this movie.
Nice commentary fellas.
1:02:18 You forgot about the 4th DeLorean that Biff used.
Movie didn't predict flying cars or hoverboards... it predicted something much darker & worse.
The Cubs winning?
Ba dum tiss
The unwanted nostalgia-baiting sequels of the old movies?
@@leegsy Wish I can go back to the beginning of the season and put some money on the cubbies
Love the commentary videos listening to this while painting the nursery lol.also never noticed docs shirt before in the pic horses chasing a train lol
To me how to make a sequel!! Love it
I remember watching this at the theatre in December 1989, I was 16. I found the plot complicated, I did not enjoy it unlike the first installment. Biff's makeup was disappointing. And so was the other cast.
Wednesday. October 21, 2015 (i.e. more picture)
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In case anybody wants video instead...
ua-cam.com/video/MS_UGyMgaUc/v-deo.html
here is what glover has to say about this movie. ua-cam.com/video/lcG61w474zY/v-deo.html
can you do a starman film retrospective?
Part II has always been my favorite. Still is. Always will be. The future part is the best. Wish they would have stayed there longer. Same with the alternate 1985. This 2 bits of the movie are amazing!
1. 2
2. 1
3. 3
Do a commentary Rapid Fire if u can find the time.
BTTF2 was shot Feb-Aug 89. BTTF 3, Aug 89-Jan 90. So virtually a year of filming, inc doing interviews and premieres for BTTF 2!
I think there was a three week break between filming 2 and 3.
I don't doubt it. Think everyone would need a break after doing one! Wonder if they had a wrap party for Part 2? When shooting started on 3, Zemeckis of course also had to edit Part 2, to meet the Nov release date. He'd shoot the desert sequences by day, fly back to L.A., and edit by night, catch a couple hours of sleep, then fly back to location!
The commentary is as long as the movie. On purpose?
Of course its on purpose, its a commentary! haha
I watched this film at the cinema, I was 8. Loved the movie. I love Brad Watson's enthusiasm. 33:20 - oh my, just put that on repeat. Love that they based alternate 1985 Biff on Trump. 1:12:10 - Oliver, you are correct. Star Trek V was pretty bad. I remember at the cinema watching the film and in the middle of the film i turn to my mom and my younger brother and both were asleep. Star Trek V Completely knocked them out.
This quickly descends into you just watching the film and commenting on or laughing about the odd thing happening on screen. There is the odd insight or nugget of trivia but I really wish you'd dissect it properly whilst watching, as things are happening. Rather than just 'this is cool', etc...especially you Brad, being such a fan (and I've just heard you saying you wrote an essay on it!)
The voice for Biff's Grandma is actually done by Tom Wilson. So he's really talking to himself in that scene.
Wasn't that his grandma though?
@@MGSBigBoss77 it was. My typo
Always wondered what the backstory with Biff was. Why he lives with his Grandma. Did his parents throw him out, die, go to jail?
This has gotten out of hand. It’s obviously Kathleen Freeman. Some sources try to claim it’s Charles Fleischer.
I saw BTTF3 in 89 in theaters and hadn't seen part 2. I was 8 years old. Some how we just skipped over 2. I don't know what happened. My sister and a friend walked from our apartment late one night in 89 and saw BTTF3 playing at the cheapy theater and got tickets. I left my jean jacket in the theater. My sister got blamed. She's older by 4 years.
WhiteyMcWhiteWhite Jean jacket? You mean a denim jacket.
@@bogboy90210 I say jean.
WhiteyMcWhiteWhite say it right Frenchie 😝
It wouldn't have been 89. BTTF3 opened in Summer 90.
@@davidjames579 sounds about right. No wonder we had time on our hands that night. It was Summer 90. Damn good old days.
I love this movie AND I love Brad on commentary. This is awesome!
Guys good commentary but the only criticism I have is you should've done your Crispin Glover research, you obviously have a knowledge gap. Listen to the latest Crispin interviews on UA-cam he states Bob gale or Bob zemeckis, can't remember which one, lied on the bluray! You get to hear his side of the story. You shouldve really listened to that before claiming what you think you know to be true.
Great to hear you enjoyed the commentary. how do you know Crispin's side of the story is 100% true? You're just siding with one person's opinion. I did discuss Crispin's side of the story in my R/R but Brad put the story forward on what he heard from Rob Zemekis and Bob Gale. You can't accuse people of lying when you don't know them or the full story.
Glover is known by all who have worked with him to be in way or another "difficult." Let's face it, he's just weird but still a good actor. The filmmakers cut corners with the face snatching, which was their way of getting what they needed when they couldn't get what they wanted. Glover got his legal dues but his story keeps changing while Gale's has been consistent. It doesn't matter because George's story had been told and had Glover been in Part II as is, it just would of added more visual consistency. I think Weissman was a decent replacement.
Yay. Another great commentary for another definitely brilliant film. 👍🏻👌🏻
As said in your review, _Part II_ was the first _BttF_ film I had seen as a kid, on a video tape. The future 2015 scenes really blew me away, a future filled with hovercars, hoverboards, pizza hydrators, holograms, Café '80s, lawyers abolished, etc., it was something I was looking forward to. And it also has a perfect three-act structure, Act I in 2015, Act II in Alt-1985, and Act III back in 1955, and it ends on a cliffhanger setting up a sequel set in 1885 Old West. While of course I had gotten to see _Part I_ and _Part III_ afterwards, and the first film will still be the very best out of the three, but for me _Part II_ was the perfect entry to introduce me into this world, and it will always have a special place in me.
Really enjoyed the commentary , the first film is my favorite but I enjoy all three films. Looking forward to more from you guys.