If you still check video responses...what many Singaporeans are unhappy about (not me. my job industry is relatively unaffected) were the very relaxed employment pass requirements. It was rare to get an employment pass application rejected. That says a lot (used to submit applications for my company). Many of them demand lower salaries so naturally wages for locals in similar capacities were depressed. Also, heightened demand have raised housing prices and well....reduced empty seats on MRTs. =)
@kenogihebe Whilst there were no mobile phones we did have music players - typically these allowed us to listen to the radio and play compact cassettes. Most of these had small speakers built in, although listening using headphones was usually also possible. The most well known brand was the Sony Walkman.
@SGRevolution2011 I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace. If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
@mailerdiablo In London every inch / cm of virtually every station can be seen by one or more CCTV cameras. Many trains have cameras inside them as well. The cameras also use facial recognition and movement detection softwares to try and see if someone is spending too long at one spot. Tourists can use cameras but only if 'passing through'. To stop and film you often need permission from the station supervisor (depending on which railway company controls the station). George Orwell RIP
@BiminiRosy I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace. If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
@projectblack In London some stations have clear plastic bags where the contents can be seen. Some trains have rubbish bins in them (not the Underground trains... other trains which are operated by different railway companies) .
@IAmNotFatdotNet yes but please bear in mind that as a tourist I filmed at 'quieter' times - including evenings. Even then the rush hours were much more crowded.
I wish this kind of ride comes back, I am a very unhappy singaporean, everyday we have to rush and push just to get a space to stand in the trains now.
@citytransportinfo The photography ban covers all railway premises, and train stations now have 360 degree CCTV (better than London). You've got to come back to Singapore and see how much have changed to actually believe it.
Did you hear the male announcements?They were made by the driver himself. Prior to Melson and Chan,The captains had to announce the stations themselves. No Such thing as doors closing,etc,etc..
@blizzaroxx to my eyes we are all human, no matter from which part of the planet one originates. If all nations offered their people decent standards of living then few people would feel a need to travel away from their place of birth simply to be able to afford to live. Working overseas for education / as part of a 'grand tour' visiting different area around the planet is a different issue.
@mailerdiablo agreed! If you would like a few web links to chat sites where other sources of information are discussed let me know. I cant add them there as youtube dont allow links in these messages.
@kenogihebe 'scolded'? Did you mean 'told off?' In some countries the local police and transport officials will stop people from filming at stations. But this did not happen (to me) in Singapore. It has happened in London, nowadays they normally allow tourists to use small hand held cameras. But you will get in trouble if you use a flashgun on the underground. btw,if stopped no-one - not even the police - can tell you to delete any images. That is illegal.
Notice the main difference from 10 years ago? No high-tech entertainment gadgets on the trains. No mobile phones, no music players. And the only places you could find tablets were the clinics. Some people would rather have that, while many wouldn't.
@citytransportinfo On a more serious note, you don't hear much here because the people has already been beaten into submission. Or "he has won a victory over himself. He loves Big Brother."
@citytransportinfo They happen now in Singapore and stop people from filming at stations on a regular basis. Though in 1991 you would be free to film anything.
So it seems. But I do understand what war is, and mass killing. It would be a real shame to see dislike of others simply because of them "not being one of us" resulting in the horrors of armed conflict. I also understand what civil war is & would be very sad to see the various ethnic groups who make up Singapore fighting in this way. This is what a dislike of foreigners can lead to. All humans are one family; we have enough challenges with coming geophysical events - without war as well
@joshjoker16 I know the feeling... London's railways can be like that as well! On some routes the railway companies reduce the number of seats to make more space for more people to stand :-(
The C151 rolling stock in this video originally have 372 seats across each 6 car trainset. Today there're 208 seats; a whopping ~45% decrease (though they've each been widened)
@mailerdiablo democracies can be like that too. The government legislation for the building of a tram system in London's southern suburbs includes a ban on anyone (except the press) taking photos on the station platforms. However since so much of the system is on the street there is nothing to stop you taking photos from 'nearby'. In part this might be because we are at war, albeit with those in power at war against ordinary people - if you've seen about the 'occupy' protests (see part 2)
Now these C151s are in a refurbished black, grey and red livery, and soon phased out by 2022 I guess, by the way do you know of the C151s that sound very different from the original?
@xlandjy I have a film of street scenes to come. I think I have Orchard Road, because its the main shopping street. I am not sure about Shenton Way. Simon
How to cover cost with this kind of ridership in the long run. Sure mati. In Tokyo, for example, they need ex-somos to push and pack commuters like sardines during peak hours. The price of urbanisation is some discomfort during the peak hours. Oh . . . check out KL's monorail during the peak hours as well. We need to travel and see reality.
because handphone technology did not exist in those days we did not miss them, yet nowadays if I go out and accidentally forget to take my phone with me I feel as if I am missing out...
Hey Simon Nice video... Seems like a dream, sometimes wondered if I imagined this country was less crowded way back when. Don't take it personal, there are many Singaporeans who are discontent yet are unable to rationalise why. I personally have no issue with foreigners, in fact many of my friends were not born here. What I take issue with is the use of the word "foreign talent" and low birth rates to justify bringing more in. Our overpaid government's flawed policy did this, not you.
(part 2)... in most western nations (especially USA) you may understand part of whats going on. The powerful are frightened of ordinary people, because now we are almost at 2012 'it is time'. Did you know that 100 years ago Nikola Tesla demonstrated a system of getting free electricity? A small box powers your house without any bills! Dont try to do this yourself, as you WILL be killed. The oil and other energy companies dont want people to use this, as they will go bankrupt.
@rykalbapakkau Hey, no harm done, we live in difficult times. To see British racism in the raw, complete with bad language, search youtube for a video called "Racist London Tram Lady 2011". The lady has now been prosecuted for this. Most Brits detest what she was saying. Simon
+Garuda Corona It was easier to film in 1991, as I understand that new rules have been introduced and if a member of staff sees someone using a camera they will tell you to stop filming. However I think that some people do not let that worry them and still like to film the trains. I would expect the MRT to have surveillance cameras everywhere and it could be said that if the MRT can use its cameras to film the passengers then the passengers should be able to use their cameras to film the trains!
+citytransportinfo the recording policies now are i can say are quite relaxed according to smrt you can record but it shuld only be for private use if its for a school project you will require a special permit but some staff (not all ) are quit cool about you recording
@AhLiang08 To see British racism in the raw, complete with bad language, search youtube for a video called "Racist London Tram Lady 2011". The lady has now been prosecuted for this. Simon
@mailerdiablo And you think that things here are much different? People are distracted by sex scandals, X-factor, constant soaps on the TV, glamour (pop idols etc). The methods are different but the aim is the same. Instead of being full of nutrients the food is poisoned, additives, chemicals, colourings, artifical sweeteners, etc. People are dumbed down. The Internet is your friend. Poverty in western nations is at an all time high. Soon will be worse than the 1930's.
Thanks. *NOW* I understand... military service peeves people because of how it disrupts life & work As for FT, yes the same scenario applies here too & some Brits also have similar racist views. Lots of people come here from former Soviet controlled European nations, Africa & the Indian subcontinent. Also, many jobs such as telephone call centres now use people who live in countries such as India. So what happens when we start meeting people who are not human / not from this planet?
@AhLiang08 why invade an already 'well populated' planet? Anyway, they were here before us - its just that we are in quarantine. For my first comment Investigate 'Charles Hall Tall Whites'. For my second comment look for the youtube video "Answers of an alien from Andromeda -- video seventy two". Simon
@citytransportinfo Because singaporeans lose jobs due to FT and they don't have to serve National Service while we singaporeans suffer in the NS instead . They probably get more privilege than we do.
@citytransportinfo Then imagine the economic ramifications, when infrastructure didn't keep pace, so demand for food, transport and housing suddenly spikes. Sudden, you were born an Earthling, but are shipped off to Mars because it's cheaper to retire a Martian. Now imagine no more, welcome to Singapore. I don't blame foreigners, I blame poor policies. Estimate about 1 in 4 should be foreign, and with our low birth rates, extinction of born Singaporeans is a mathematical certainy.
@MrFako100 I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace. If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
When litter bins were still available in stations...
Thanks for sharing this video! I miss those simple yet wonderful lifestyle back then.....
If you still check video responses...what many Singaporeans are unhappy about (not me. my job industry is relatively unaffected) were the very relaxed employment pass requirements. It was rare to get an employment pass application rejected. That says a lot (used to submit applications for my company). Many of them demand lower salaries so naturally wages for locals in similar capacities were depressed. Also, heightened demand have raised housing prices and well....reduced empty seats on MRTs. =)
Wow I can see the changes how 90's and now look like and it is not crowded at all.
Yes but in 1991 I filmed at quiet times - especially late in the evening - in the rush hours the MRT was too crowded!
+citytransportinfo now i challenge you to film in the day that is not crowded.
you can even hear birds chirping happily in the background around 5mins. this will never be possible anymore
wish those days would come back...those peaceful days
6:15 very unique doors sound, very rare!
@kenogihebe Whilst there were no mobile phones we did have music players - typically these allowed us to listen to the radio and play compact cassettes. Most of these had small speakers built in, although listening using headphones was usually also possible.
The most well known brand was the Sony Walkman.
@SGRevolution2011
I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace.
If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
the school girl in the video....now ish 30+ already !!
Now 40+ liao, time flies 🥵
No noisy babies, no people speaking loudly, no music being blast, no inconsiderate people. This is what Singapore is BEFORE. But sadly.... not for now
yes I agree
@mailerdiablo In London every inch / cm of virtually every station can be seen by one or more CCTV cameras. Many trains have cameras inside them as well. The cameras also use facial recognition and movement detection softwares to try and see if someone is spending too long at one spot.
Tourists can use cameras but only if 'passing through'. To stop and film you often need permission from the station supervisor (depending on which railway company controls the station).
George Orwell RIP
@BiminiRosy
I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace.
If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
Can't believe I chanced upon this channel hahaha
@projectblack In London some stations have clear plastic bags where the contents can be seen.
Some trains have rubbish bins in them (not the Underground trains... other trains which are operated by different railway companies) .
Back in the days when its considered unlucky if you cant find a seat on the MRT. I remember those days
only off-peak - I avoided the rush hours, the trains were very crowded!
Currently, peak hours frequency is usually 2 - 3 mins while the off peak hours frequency is about 5 - 10 mins.
Yes! Completed 10 years after you shoot this video! :)
@IAmNotFatdotNet yes but please bear in mind that as a tourist I filmed at 'quieter' times - including evenings.
Even then the rush hours were much more crowded.
LOL, noticed compared to lastime, nowadays alot of ppl head down using phone when taking mrt,
Annoying part is stuck in group of smartphone zombies.
Better to look down at your phone then to be accused of looking at someone's cleavage on the opposite side... 😁
I wish this kind of ride comes back, I am a very unhappy singaporean, everyday we have to rush and push just to get a space to stand in the trains now.
@citytransportinfo The photography ban covers all railway premises, and train stations now have 360 degree CCTV (better than London). You've got to come back to Singapore and see how much have changed to actually believe it.
Thank you for uploading!
Appreciate this so much, but did you ever get scolded?
Did you hear the male announcements?They were made by the driver himself.
Prior to Melson and Chan,The captains had to announce the stations themselves.
No Such thing as doors closing,etc,etc..
who is watching this in 2018?
im watching this on 2019
@@GhostZ80_Channels same :D
@@GhostZ80_Channels lol me too
its 2025. time flies
@citytransportinfo Yes.. It is one of the last MRT Stations to open which opened in 2001.
OMG Jurong East so empty last time.. I miss those times...
@blizzaroxx to my eyes we are all human, no matter from which part of the planet one originates.
If all nations offered their people decent standards of living then few people would feel a need to travel away from their place of birth simply to be able to afford to live.
Working overseas for education / as part of a 'grand tour' visiting different area around the planet is a different issue.
The 90s clothing awww so beautiful
Nope. Dover station was opened in 2001. At the time of filming, Dover station was not opened yet.
Wow.. do you have any footage of Lavender MRT EW11 station in 90s?
Couldn't Believe That During Mon-Friday Operations Of SMRT {MRT} During Rush Hours Of All Singaporean's Late To Work, Is Too Crowded.
Overcrowded trains is a big problem in many large cities - not just Singapore.We have it here in London too.
The doors closing chimes were better back then when compared to the obnoxious beeps today.
@mailerdiablo agreed!
If you would like a few web links to chat sites where other sources of information are discussed let me know. I cant add them there as youtube dont allow links in these messages.
@kenogihebe 'scolded'? Did you mean 'told off?'
In some countries the local police and transport officials will stop people from filming at stations. But this did not happen (to me) in Singapore.
It has happened in London, nowadays they normally allow tourists to use small hand held cameras. But you will get in trouble if you use a flashgun on the underground.
btw,if stopped no-one - not even the police - can tell you to delete any images. That is illegal.
@fourarms97 i think its more because they dont wanna miss the train.
@skybluerock you might be able to see the fares on my other Singapore MRT film.
Nice C651 catch
It’s unrefurbished c151,not c651
Notice the main difference from 10 years ago? No high-tech entertainment gadgets on the trains. No mobile phones, no music players. And the only places you could find tablets were the clinics. Some people would rather have that, while many wouldn't.
I miss the old screen W7 Bouna Vista
@citytransportinfo On a more serious note, you don't hear much here because the people has already been beaten into submission. Or "he has won a victory over himself. He loves Big Brother."
@kelvintwt Panasonic MS50 S-VHS-C camcorder, probably with the external Panasonic stereo microphone.
I wonder when were the Juanita Melson announcements introduced?
Ng KQ 1994
should took a pic of the train fare at that time too...
so much more comfortable sitting with real good price....
@citytransportinfo They happen now in Singapore and stop people from filming at stations on a regular basis. Though in 1991 you would be free to film anything.
mailerdiablo Long live in Hong Kong！
0:59 *BUZZER X3*
Is there a way can get latest Singapore MRT videos, be it as JEMP, C151 or anything?
So it seems. But I do understand what war is, and mass killing. It would be a real shame to see dislike of others simply because of them "not being one of us" resulting in the horrors of armed conflict.
I also understand what civil war is & would be very sad to see the various ethnic groups who make up Singapore fighting in this way. This is what a dislike of foreigners can lead to.
All humans are one family; we have enough challenges with coming geophysical events - without war as well
I wonder how the frequency of the trains were back then, seeing the amount of people, I guess it was not that good back then idk
4:20 hahahaha even back then we love to rush for trains…
short of people being physically restrained people will always rush for trains!
@joshjoker16
I know the feeling... London's railways can be like that as well!
On some routes the railway companies reduce the number of seats to make more space for more people to stand :-(
The C151 rolling stock in this video originally have 372 seats across each 6 car trainset. Today there're 208 seats; a whopping ~45% decrease (though they've each been widened)
@mailerdiablo democracies can be like that too. The government legislation for the building of a tram system in London's southern suburbs includes a ban on anyone (except the press) taking photos on the station platforms. However since so much of the system is on the street there is nothing to stop you taking photos from 'nearby'.
In part this might be because we are at war, albeit with those in power at war against ordinary people - if you've seen about the 'occupy' protests (see part 2)
@Ethan777100 you mean that there is a new station here?
There were no lift in mrt still isn't it???
sorry but I was last in Singapore many years ago and I do not remember seeing lifts
Now these C151s are in a refurbished black, grey and red livery, and soon phased out by 2022 I guess, by the way do you know of the C151s that sound very different from the original?
Sorry, but I do not know if the trains still sound as they did when first introduced
@@CitytransportInfoplus most of them sound the same as before, only a couple of them or so sound different. Cheers
Hi, This is Danish from Singapore, I wonder if I can use part of your video for a school project?
Danish Rusdi Hi there, please look out for a private message. Regards Simon
roger.
Changed my comment so it doesn't make sense.
@@buizelmeme6288 matter settled privately
Damn 30 years ago..
Somebody will have to preserved two examples of the C151 when it reaches the age of retirement.
@xlandjy I have a film of street scenes to come. I think I have Orchard Road, because its the main shopping street. I am not sure about Shenton Way.
Simon
Those were the days =(
Ahhh...memories.. havent seen the monorail for 8 years now.
Oh wow so you have do you like the door closing chime
This includes the old and new one
How to cover cost with this kind of ridership in the long run. Sure mati. In Tokyo, for example, they need ex-somos to push and pack commuters like sardines during peak hours. The price of urbanisation is some discomfort during the peak hours.
Oh . . . check out KL's monorail during the peak hours as well.
We need to travel and see reality.
those days without handphones, now 99% of people inside MRT see handphones
because handphone technology did not exist in those days we did not miss them, yet nowadays if I go out and accidentally forget to take my phone with me I feel as if I am missing out...
Hey Simon
Nice video... Seems like a dream, sometimes wondered if I imagined this country was less crowded way back when. Don't take it personal, there are many Singaporeans who are discontent yet are unable to rationalise why.
I personally have no issue with foreigners, in fact many of my friends were not born here. What I take issue with is the use of the word "foreign talent" and low birth rates to justify bringing more in. Our overpaid government's flawed policy did this, not you.
wow mrt not crowded :O
I have never seen Jurong East station this much deserted.
@citytransportinfo No, I'm pointing out that Singapore is no paradise either.
lol so many students running to the train instead of adults on 4:22
I wonder all these people that you filmed, are they still alive? hahah
probably yes, but eventually no-one will live forever.
Just wish them well
i was 4 years old then. =D
@Ridz2812 sorry, no I don't.
they should repait the c151 with the nostalgic red line
Sooo peace and quiet..... :)
BUT NOW LIKE PASAR MALAM FULL OF FOREIGNERS ! ;/
Hahaha true
WTF? At the end, is someone trying to walk down to the tracks?
I miss the unrefurbed C151..
4:22 Same Kiasu Singaporeans! some things never change!
4.41 C151 007/008.
5.18 C151 021/022.
(part 2)... in most western nations (especially USA) you may understand part of whats going on. The powerful are frightened of ordinary people, because now we are almost at 2012 'it is time'. Did you know that 100 years ago Nikola Tesla demonstrated a system of getting free electricity? A small box powers your house without any bills! Dont try to do this yourself, as you WILL be killed. The oil and other energy companies dont want people to use this, as they will go bankrupt.
@joeyfjj sounds good to me!
@rykalbapakkau
Hey, no harm done, we live in difficult times.
To see British racism in the raw, complete with bad language, search youtube for a video called
"Racist London Tram Lady 2011".
The lady has now been prosecuted for this.
Most Brits detest what she was saying.
Simon
Can u really take videos ? Are there pople looking at u ? i'm worried it will if i do
+Garuda Corona It was easier to film in 1991, as I understand that new rules have been introduced and if a member of staff sees someone using a camera they will tell you to stop filming.
However I think that some people do not let that worry them and still like to film the trains.
I would expect the MRT to have surveillance cameras everywhere and it could be said that if the MRT can use its cameras to film the passengers then the passengers should be able to use their cameras to film the trains!
+citytransportinfo the recording policies now are i can say are quite relaxed according to smrt
you can record but it shuld only be for private use if its for a school project you will require a special permit but some staff (not all ) are quit cool about you recording
@mailerdiablo Thats a shame.What are they afraid of? Compared to most systems in 'western' nations yours is a paradise.
Or rather a station did open here but it is not new.
@AhLiang08
To see British racism in the raw, complete with bad language, search youtube for a video called
"Racist London Tram Lady 2011".
The lady has now been prosecuted for this.
Simon
Jurong East interchange was so... empty.
@mailerdiablo And you think that things here are much different? People are distracted by sex scandals, X-factor, constant soaps on the TV, glamour (pop idols etc).
The methods are different but the aim is the same.
Instead of being full of nutrients the food is poisoned, additives, chemicals, colourings, artifical sweeteners, etc. People are dumbed down. The Internet is your friend.
Poverty in western nations is at an all time high. Soon will be worse than the 1930's.
Thanks. *NOW* I understand... military service peeves people because of how it disrupts life & work
As for FT, yes the same scenario applies here too & some Brits also have similar racist views. Lots of people come here from former Soviet controlled European nations, Africa & the Indian subcontinent.
Also, many jobs such as telephone call centres now use people who live in countries such as India.
So what happens when we start meeting people who are not human / not from this planet?
OMG^!!! There are empty seats on the train^!!!!!
@citytransportinfo Thats how authoritarian regimes work.
@AhLiang08 why invade an already 'well populated' planet?
Anyway, they were here before us - its just that we are in quarantine.
For my first comment Investigate 'Charles Hall Tall Whites'.
For my second comment look for the youtube video "Answers of an alien from Andromeda -- video seventy two".
Simon
@SealalulaHD without babies the human species would soon die out.!
Not much foreigners bck then so peaceful
@citytransportinfo Because singaporeans lose jobs due to FT and they don't have to serve National Service while we singaporeans suffer in the NS instead . They probably get more privilege than we do.
great old days without foreign trash
@citytransportinfo I think Orwell is probably rolling in his grave now!
no people using ph😁
Mobile phones were 'Star Trek' science fiction in those days!
Still same sound until now.
@citytransportinfo Then imagine the economic ramifications, when infrastructure didn't keep pace, so demand for food, transport and housing suddenly spikes. Sudden, you were born an Earthling, but are shipped off to Mars because it's cheaper to retire a Martian. Now imagine no more, welcome to Singapore.
I don't blame foreigners, I blame poor policies. Estimate about 1 in 4 should be foreign, and with our low birth rates, extinction of born Singaporeans is a mathematical certainy.
Omg so lazy. The captain just say city hall interchange
@MrFako100
I am amazed at how so many comments to this video complain about people who (I assume) are not from Singapore - even though Singapore is a multicultural society where peoples of many different racial and religious backgrounds live together in peace.
If this is how humans treat their fellow humans, so what happens when we start meeting people who are not from around here?
@Ethan777100 you mean that there is a new station here?