Predator Polymag Vs H&N Hornet Pellet, Chrony, Accuracy & Ballistics Test
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2016
- This is a Ballistics, Accuracy and Muzzle Energy Test between these two pellets.
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To his family I still come back to get information from his videos. He did great accurate reviews on Airguns and accurate reviews on Airgun Ammo !
R I P Amen
To kennys family thank you for leaving kennys channel up and running on you tube !
Kenny was a great guy and a good friend !
He is missed and thought of often !!
Out of all the youtubers testing airguns & pellets... these tests you just did are the best!
Happy I found your channel. I just subscribed!
one thing you must always keep on mind is that different pellets have different ballistic coefficients thats one of the reasons why you had to rezero your scope, and lastly test the H&Ns in different guns and you will se that some guns like them and others do, this all comes down to your guns barrel and its twist rate, H&N pellets are known for being a hard lead pellet not like the JSBs that a bit softer and that can also have effects on the pellet because of the way the barrel treats the pellet. good video anyhow, i just wanted to give some more info on that
In All Honesty He’s also going through cancer in this video, he’s since passed.
In All Honesty just don’t say those bad words
RIP og. I just saw these pellets in a catalog and decided to look them up and stumbled upon this channel. Now I'm kinda sad
Been using the Polymag through my Benjamin Titan NP, they make a ragged hole with all holes touching. Was wondering about the H&N's, you have done the work for me, I will stick with my Polymag's
Just bought both of these pellets, so this video was especially useful. My local gun shop was astounded at the PRICE of these pellets, working out at more than equivalent US 11.25 cents EACH.
Kitty Kitty are these exploding pellets?
Kitty Kitty It would be really helpful to the rest of us if you could post here your evaluation of these two types of pellet.
if they were astounded by the prices 5 years ago i wonder what they would be with todays prices?
@@V3g3t41987😅 ya really wanna know about 0.14 each
A good video and the first of yours I have seen Kenny. Thank you for taking the time to do the test and post the review.
Another comment in the string, refers to you being unwell. I hope that you have made a full recovery.
Terminal.
OMG, if that's correct I am so sorry. Bless you Kenny
OMG, if that is correct, I am so sorry. Bless you Kenny.
❤ was the best man to describe these airsoft. I miss you Mr. Kenny
Wonder what the energy loss and wound channels look like a n these at 50 yards?
try crosman 7.9 hollow points test against the poly mags
hi sir,
thanks, good testing.
now what i want to say = a forgotten and not so popular pellet is the GAMO DESTRUCTOR.
i tested poly versus destructor with my hatsan striker 22mm vortex.
and believe me the destructor, at 3o yards, is destructive and accurat with this [my[ hatsan.
so i use this one for hunting, hatsan striker vortex 22mm and gamo destructor, my kill machine till 3o yards.
and i use no scope.
Are these 8.8gr hornet pellets or the new 10.03gr? Also try using fishing line to cut into the clay it will help a lot!
Have you tried the h&n red scorpion yet in a test.
Very cool video mr kenny sir
Very good video Sir
crosman gold tip are the new rave. they are just like the predator metal mag but seem to shoot alot better groups and performance is way better then the h&n pellet used in this video
Which vortex brake barrell .22 cal is the most accurate air rifle? With which pellet?
youre an absolute legend Kenny! The Predator polymags are excellent, I use the polymag shorts in .22 and they destroyed squirrels, one got knocked a meter from where it was standing when i shot it, and it totally rips their guts up, never even exiting such a small animal as a squirrel. That shows how they flip and turn as they pass through the body, dumping all their destructive power inside the animal. Best pellets for hunting by far!
Will they fit in the magazine for a Hatsan Blitz 30 Cal automatic air rifle
Nice addition adding the ballistic clay ....good information......I use chp and they do the job even on a groundhog....would be interesting to see clay effect on chp...Thank you Kenny!
Second thought...they'd probably distort an amount slightly more than the H & N.
....you are a firework of energy and enthusiasm :-)
Which should I buy the hornet or metal mag
Another great video Kenny .... Thanks for taking the time .... I have wondered about the H&N and you just saved me some money I'll just stick to my polymags ..... thanks .... Kelly
What a great video. Just cut the clay strips almost thru, all along. The knife doesn't touch anything extra, and the strips are hinged.
Was going to comment the same, just cut it all the way and fold it open, you beat me to it.
i sure will miss all your input friend ,,,,,,R.I.P. ....
I found the gamo red and h&n only work well at low co2 pistols only 400 fps max
Which guns work in .177 hornet?
Sir my .177 rifle is = 800fps so ( HN baracuda mach 10.65 grain VS HN hornet 10.03 grain) pallets (rabbit hunting ) which better please reply 🤔 ? =
stick with barracuda they do a copper coated one now really accurate and they really drive deep either on game or plinkng
very nice man
nice review thanks you have saved me so much time and money by your review's I have watched them over and over to learn maybe I a slow learner L .O.L. buy the way I've started watching the video you have out your video on to get as many views as possible hope utubemight gets there stuff in line but if not good buy utube
Hi Kenny. Coneheads never be accurate! maybe HN Terminator which has a hidden tipp , is more accurate I will watch your Terminator test I just found right now! Great vid !!!
Thanks Kenny - another great video. I would like to try the H&N hornets in .25 caliber but don't see them available at pyramydair or airgundepot. Most pointed pellets are not very accurate, but the predator polymags shoot great out of my hatsan 150 sniper. As you mentioned they are basically a hollowpoint pellet with the plastic tip, the h&n may have decent accuracy but I cant find them in .25
Hatsan is the Distributor for them. I just sent an email to John in marketing to find a retailer. I thought that Field Supply had them but I only see .177's and .22's listed. I know they make them in .25 cal because I have a tin of them.
You can buy them direct from Hatsan USA by filling out this form. www.hatsanusa.com/warranty-repair/customer-service-form/
Glen Midway carries them in .25
They are .13 cents a round (.25) which isn't terrible if your gun likes them more. I ordered some to try.
you never mentioned the airgun used, pump, springer or pcp.
Crosman Vantage NP
for bent skirts use a Philips or hex wrench insert in pellet shirt and turn side to side !!!
Im sorry to hear about your cancer treatment sir. ,,,hope you're doing well!!
jose martinez he dead
@@Satikal what?Are u bullshittin?
@@rsxtypesmobbin8661 Ya its true, he shared his last moment with the world gladly so we have his videos
which one better sir for hunting? polymag or H&N ?
Hunting for Meat. H&N Hornet.
I'm sold on the predator poly mag's
But I dont like eating lead so I'm going to be doing head or neck shot's
but the H&N have more knock down power I'd like to see a better accuracy test between the two.
P.s tap on the turret a few times to settle your scope in between shots it will save you time & pellets?
Kenny was not a very good shot at all, (he has passed away). I find the polymags to start flying funny after 30 or 40 yards in most of my break barrel guns. But in my .22 break barrel, I have found the the Hornets are still flying straight to 65 yards, (so far). Those distances are usually reserved for a good semi heavy dome pellet, like a JSB.
Dunno about polymag but i've tested Metalmag 1.1g and they are extreamly accurate even more than JSB exact at 75 meters shot from a springer.
The H&N hornet makes a good skull shot a good head shoot in my .25 drops fox racoons possum rabbit squirrel you made a great video
Thank´s youu...
hey Kenny the pellets are designed to expand that's why they're polymag expanded like it did because you were at close range the other one didn't that's why it went any farther so I would say the Predator polymag did the job and the other one didn't
Polymags are going for $17.99 for a tin of .22 cal in my area...ive gotten excellent results hunting with crow magnums, but if i had to switch between the polymag and the hornet i would pick the hornet. I feel like in a headshot the metal tip on the hornet would get it into a skull a lot easier than a polymer one.
I have to agree. Gamo redfire is basically a predator polymag. The brass tip hornet definitely penetrated better in my tests. If I need guaranteed skull penetration I’m using hornets. Hornets are so wicked they’d penetrate a human skull in my opinion.
I agree with both of you on that. Hell these hornets will Pierce through metal sheeting like a knife through butter!
@@DonnieJLCarson A crosman Vigilante with Hornets will kill a Man with a head shot Period.
@@joseglenn4435 assassin pellets
why not just cut to the back of the block . u could see what was happening . Or pauise capera , stick it in the fridge and then pull it apart .
i really like the predator poly's. i shoot .177, .22, .25 calibers in both accuracy and power. .177 np trail pistol, .22 np trail rifle, .25 hatsan sniper 125. i have taken game with all 3......about the only pellet i have tried....if its not broke, don't fix it.......
Personally, I would prefer to use the Polymag regardless of the target. I would prefer to see the energy of a pellet dumped into the target and not blow out the other side of my target. Deeper penetration doesn't necessarily impress me, especially when I'm shooting to rid my property of pest squirrels. Like you, I don't eat game that I shoot with a pellet rifle so fragmentation is not an issue for me either. In fact, I would prefer to have more fragmentation so that more internal wounds occur possibly leading to more and faster blood loss. In short, leave the energy in the target if you can. On the other side, I don't know of many 12" thick squirrels. Maybe a 3" thick block would more accurately show the damage done to a squirrel?????
Will the hornets break glass and safety glass?
Yes
From experience, Hornets seem to give a cleaner kill.
I’ve had them appear to have exploded into the head of medium sized quarry, a bloody mess, but an instant and humane take down.
Looks like the H&N's weight retention was much better.
I zeroed my striker 1000s .25 cal. in with the H&N .25 31G Grizzlies at 35 yards . My scope is the 3-12 x 50 dusk To dawn Bushnell & I am getting great groopping . with no flyers , the only thing is there tight , had to make a woodin punch to get them in fully in the breech. a high at 579 / low at 568 with a 34 fpe .
A 25.31 grain Pellet at 579 fps is 18.85FPE
I think he meant .25 31 grain ....
I have a striker edge .25, and 1000x in .25 both the same powerplant, and I've shot the 31gr. grizzlies and will only get 20 FPE MAX,those guns will NOT develop that power without dieseling, the 125-155 class of guns will,but not their entry level guns.
higher velocity makes better expansion
all you had to say was the polymag is the best, and won the test!
you didn't mention rifle used or the distance did i miss that.
Crosman Vantage NP .177 Cal
next time cut the block with fishing string or dental floss so we can see the temporary cavity
Agree. A cheese board with wire cutter would have done the job perfectly and made it simple to cut right through the block. As it was, finger and thumb damage opening up the partial cuts, made too much damage for us to see the 'wound' channels properly.
H&N hornets from my point of view have been designed for armor penetration not hunting.
I use them to punch trough old car doors and wooden planks and destroy old toys.
Great fun !
The ultimate test would be to shoot trough actual skulls.
Farmers can supply you with freshly killed pig's heads.
A 100-150 pounds pig average a human skull in thickness.
Anyways, anything that could punch trough a pests skull is bound to kill it in a second so "which one is best" is almost irrelevant at this point.
Rip Kenny
have you tried the metalmags yet ?
Not yet and it'll be awhile. I start cancer treatments soon.
myairgunreviews look up nano bubbles cancer can not live in oxygen rich inviorment
hope thing s improve for you Sir . Stay strong and shoot straight , Good luck, i think i am right in saying fellow shooters all around the world will be on the same page in wishing you well
How are you now Sir? Wishing you well.
@@glynhannaford7992 Unfortunately, our friend had passed away. We are watching him doing what he loves.
Still depending on Air Rifle, at least having 1500 fps to blow the pellet. Unfortunately I don't have it. Because the price is away too expensive 😭😭😒😒😂😒☹️☹️
8:45 : a bigger knife was not at hand? ;-)
The polymags might have been better through your barrel for accuracy But in another gun the results could have been reversed..Just a thought..As you know,each barrel even from the same model gun can prefer different pellets..Still an intresting video though.. :)
Tested with 3 different guns. I used the Vantage because it had the most energy.
I wasnt saying you were wrong mate! I love your air rifle reviews..I was just trying to say that each gun is different.as you already know :) For example I Have a BSA Lightning that shoots sub half inch groups at 25 yards with air arms diaoblo 5.52 pellets but with H&N FFt's the groups are almost twice as big! However my old Weihrauch HW 95 shot the H&N's much tighter & the Air Arms pellets were all over the place :) Like I said..I love your airgun Reviews :) I'm from the UK & we are restricted to 12 ft lbs.. Mayby that can also make a difference?
The predators are the best pellets I've found, a little inaccurate and inconsistent, but these cause so much damage are the only pellets can hunt with a pistol without being cruel, in the rifle they are absolutely deadly, I owe many dinners to these 😂
is that a tv behind nvm you just said there is a big ol tv behind lol
I'm always willing to pay extra for higher quality.
I’ve shot 400 hornets now just wishing they were as good as they look. Unfortunately that’s all they are is good looking, one in every would hit on target
Cool So your gun prefers the poly mag .
Thanks for your review I only use the predator pellets for rats and do a very good job.
I've only ever used 1 tin of hornets and I used them on rabbits and hares but the cost of them is so high that I would rather spend that cash on a cheap bottle of whiskey.🤭
Sadly he passed away over a year ago.
Coollll
The hornets seem to fly all over
H&N hornets for the win!
I would like to see you shoot a 20 yard, 5 shot, one hole group with that gun and any pellet. Just to make sure your technique and gun are OK. If these groups are real, these pellets are totally not suited as a hunting pellet. To be sure to hit a squirrel's brain you would have to be almost on top of it.
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I like your videos but I wish you could talk a little faster and get the videos moving faster
Be his age lets see how good u can be.
very nice video i got some cool shooting videos on my channel if you wanna check them out.. thanks
*@**11:47** Barbecued Rat?!*
Ammo Man I think he meant tree rat lol
My gun absolutely LOVES the hornets.
I use them exclusively. The money is worth it. They are all much more uniform and more precisely made. They were designed for magazines but work perfectly in break barrels.
When taking squirrels or any type of bird that you may be hunting it penetrates perfectly. The controlled expansion really helps penetration with thick fur coats.
I have easily taken squirrels from 60-70yards with these pellets with just a single pellet
As with any hunting a poorly placed shot may require chasing the animal and putting it out of its misery.
But I have placed these pellets in dime sized groups at 40-50yards and baseball sized groups at 60-70 yards (and the pellets are only rated for 30yards?!??!)
I don't know if I have a perfect gun/scope combo or what but my gun LOVES these pellets. Will not buy anything other than h&n hornets.
You ain’t gotta lie to kick it man…
well you totally destroyed any chance of us being able to see what kind of wound track each pellet made in the clay block when you decided to start digging your fingers into it and pulling big chunks out of it and pretty much just ruining the whole point of the test lol
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Sir you should test these pallets on some metal plates .... this is worthless test....sorry ...
The purpose of shooting clay or gelatin is not only to test for expansion but to see penetration and the type of cavity that the round creates in soft tissue. Shooting metal plates is worthless unless you know of some type of small metal animal that we should be hunting.
Who hunts metal plates? FYI, this guy has been dead for about a year.
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