Accuracy testing the most extreme hunting pellets inc JSB Hades, Predator and Gamo lethal!

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  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2023
  • Range testing the most extreme air rifle hunting pellets...
    Accuracy testing some of the most powerful pellets on the market, in preparation for some ballistic gel penetration testing to follow
    the pellets on test are..
    Jsb Hades
    predator polymags
    polymag shorts
    Gamo lethal
    H&N red scorpion
    H&N Hornet
    Ive also found some vintage copped tipped pellets from the early 1990s and some lead free versions too.
    i used my Anschutz 9015 for the testing
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  • @Mike_P646
    @Mike_P646 11 місяців тому +7

    I laughed when my mate showed me the polymag shorts he started using but was amazed at the accuracy and damage they caused through his hw100

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I was amazed with the short versions. The price is a bit off-putting though...

  • @nickwebb9290
    @nickwebb9290 11 місяців тому +2

    Looking forward to seeing the next tests 👍

  • @scousewillo62
    @scousewillo62 11 місяців тому +4

    I always look forward to new vids from you. One of my favourite streamers. Great info and a great style. I have never had good results with the .177 Hades but the .22 version seem to work well in all my rifles. The Polymag shorts also are a top performer but too expensive for general target work and plinking.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for being a part of the channel mate😉 as long as you lot keep watching I'll keep doing vids..

    • @markhomer5704
      @markhomer5704 11 місяців тому +1

      Strangely enough I concur , in .22 ( Hades ) they are awesome ... think its down to the shape to be honest ..

  • @steved5356
    @steved5356 11 місяців тому +1

    Polymag shorts fit my .22 brocock bantam magazines and are surprisingly accurate. My .177 FX dreamline generally shoots the 177 hades really well but they do throw a flier every now and again.

  • @mrln247
    @mrln247 11 місяців тому +3

    Glad this test showed the .177 polymag shorts are serious kit not gimmick, I can confirm they do expand in "soft" targets. Sensitive to wind and not for long range 40 max.
    I find .177 Hades give me a random fliers for no apparent reason, but also the highest BC I have measured in .177, 0.031.
    .22 Hades are however amazing more ftld, more accurate and more impact.
    I would still like for you to shoot the plastic crap at ballistic gel even if it's 10m just to show how useless they are.

    • @cardiffpicker1
      @cardiffpicker1 11 місяців тому

      I get great results with both caliber hades, RWS guve me random flyers, but they are very tight In my .177 and suspect I might be causing damage when feeding from the magazine..

  • @Getting-Older
    @Getting-Older 11 місяців тому +1

    great comparison, thanks. not for hunting but i recently purchased on Spitfires and they were pretty damn consitent and half the price of the JSB I normally use.

  • @user-vt5hx1kz7l
    @user-vt5hx1kz7l 11 місяців тому

    Teasing us with the ballistics gel. Can't wait to see the results.

  • @gallantone1535
    @gallantone1535 11 місяців тому +3

    My go to pellet is bisley long range gold .177 , enjoyed your video' 👍 a lite pellet but my sub 12 ft FX impact really likes them and they take grays out at good distance

    • @michaelmcbride1307
      @michaelmcbride1307 6 місяців тому

      Same in my R10. Great pellet , even at longer ranges, as the name says 😊

  • @Esoxlucius51
    @Esoxlucius51 11 місяців тому +1

    I use h& n barracuda hunter extreme, they work well in my Airarms s510tc carbine. and my Daystate huntsman revere safari.hades are a close second, I've never tried "composite pellets ( two different materials)so found your video very informative 👍

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      Hold on.... You've got a TC? There's not many of them about...

    • @Esoxlucius51
      @Esoxlucius51 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tillysgunstocks yeah,saw it, and I loved it.and it's really nice to shoot (and it's a good conversation starter when I go FT shoots with it 👍

  • @tom100hp
    @tom100hp 10 місяців тому

    Looking forward to the ballistic gel testing!

  • @michaelmcbride1307
    @michaelmcbride1307 6 місяців тому

    "Not so much a group, as a galaxy" 😅...... great channel as always 👍

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull 11 місяців тому +1

    25 to 30 yards... .177 RWS Hobby are great pest control/hunting pellets.
    That flat face helps prevent over penetration.

  • @keith6930
    @keith6930 11 місяців тому +2

    The Hornet surprised me when using the HW100, not bad initial grouping at 50m before a couple of flyers?? They do look pretty awesome.
    If the Polymag were cheaper and in bigger tins I'd give them a go

  • @SciGuy_1972
    @SciGuy_1972 5 місяців тому

    The JSB Exact is my rifle's fave. I've tried the ball tipped ones too in the past. Complete rubbish. A third of the tin had their balls rolling around in the tin, many skirts bent, and the 'good ones' I got a grouping close to your results (PCP as well as a break-barrel magnum). Great testing video!

  • @moksimque
    @moksimque 11 місяців тому +1

    Dont forget to test knockout slugs when you go for gel, not sure they will expand correctly in sub12 but both 10 and 13 gr knockouts show amazing performance in fac rifles

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      I'll likely do the slugs in their own video assuming I can get decent footage with the pellets first.
      I've got a fair selection of slugs now including the MK2 jsb KO in .177

  • @GladlyKillmore
    @GladlyKillmore 9 місяців тому

    Ran hn baracuda hunter xtremes against 1/16 steel sheeting, would leave moderate dent. Hornets at same fps would blow through one side of the sheeting of the vent boxing, and would leave a dent similar to the cudas on the other side. Groupings were amazing.

  • @leecolclough2492
    @leecolclough2492 11 місяців тому

    I don't think I've ever seen you shoot bisley magnums my rapid lives for them things be interesting to see what the Annie does with them cheers for the video 👍👍

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      I've a video in the pipeline about all the heavier pellets, got some bis mags here waiting 😀

  • @colinshard8665
    @colinshard8665 8 місяців тому +1

    the pellets with the copper ball, are likely to be the Gamo Rockets, i have a tin of them

  • @Beesa10
    @Beesa10 11 місяців тому +2

    My take from this is stick with the JSB domes, the polymag short can work well but the hornets look coolest and would make a good novelty gift labelled 'ultra deadly armour piercing ballistic tip, warning may shoot through anything'

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      I tried to shoot the hornets through a scope..didn't really do what I thought they would tbh😆 they look mad though..

    • @Beesa10
      @Beesa10 11 місяців тому

      @@tillysgunstocks You actually shot a scope? Haha, cool. Make sure to remember safety specs when experimenting with stuff like this... yes and remember to shoot the safety specs

  • @markhomer5704
    @markhomer5704 11 місяців тому

    Polymag shorts , had some good grouping with them ( forgot what rifle , and only bought a tin to try out of curiosity ) so your result came as no surprise ... 10.34's have always been descent in most rifles , but the Hades ? , well , basically rubbish ... think ive still got 3/4's of a tin left .. super vid .. interesting veiwing

  • @MotoDex96
    @MotoDex96 11 місяців тому +1

    Great content as always, I am looking to order a stock from yourself how do I go about placing an order? Thanks

  • @Woodgate425
    @Woodgate425 11 місяців тому +1

    Another interesting and great test. The Polymags really surprised me as did the Hades. However, having used both l have found that the Hades are much better in .22 than in .177 and certainly both are not that accurate past 25m.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      Jimmy gave me the polymags to try. Said they were decent, and sure enough they are at the shorter range. I'll get some more to push out further asap

  • @georgescreeksawshop
    @georgescreeksawshop 19 днів тому

    my 9yr old break barrel gamo loves the lethal pellets and gamos versions of the red tip and the blue tip ones.. i am very interested in the H&N hornet to see if they work as well or better in my rifle... also gamo makes 2 dif pellets with the copper BB in the tip one is gamo rocket and im not sure what the name is of the other

  • @Marcus1954s
    @Marcus1954s 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the intelligent and interesting test. I don't think any of those pellets will open up much at sub12 level. At sub12 to 30m I would use H&N Baracuda Hunter for stopping power on pests. I shoot .22 and .25 at higher velocities, a keen user of Polymags (ensuring all tips centred) but in .22 switched to Hades (due to price mainly) which are not effected by wind so much-especially beyond 35m. I don't use Hades in .25 as they simply wont group in my LW barrels; choked or unchoked, irrespective of velocity/pressure, sizing thimble or probe length. I cannot understand why manufactures can't produce consistently sized barrels and matching pellets.

    • @mrln247
      @mrln247 11 місяців тому

      I have recovered.177 Polymag shorts that definitely did expand, they do a lot lot more damage than any normal dome head, Barracuda Hunter extreme do also do a good amount of damage but less expansion than the Polymag.
      Hades in .22 are a very effective pellet even at sub 12, they don't need to fragment like many think for that head design to change the impact.

    • @johnndavis7647
      @johnndavis7647 8 місяців тому

      I have seen the poly tipped pellets do a lot of damage in ballistic jell blocks. It seems to be that they go into the block about 15mm and tumble creating a larger wound channel for about 3cm.
      They end up backwards in the jell blocks.
      My issue these days is penetration for animals larger than rabbits.
      Expansion with 22 pellets isnt really needed with head shots.
      What kind of pellet has given the
      deepest penetration with 12 pound rifles?
      Thanks for all you do.

  • @timharrison3056
    @timharrison3056 2 місяці тому

    Excellent thankyou

  • @jimhansen905
    @jimhansen905 3 місяці тому

    The plastic tips are super easy to dmg or alter if you aren`t super careful while loading them. Other than that good presicion.

  • @ryandavey1985
    @ryandavey1985 Місяць тому

    Have you any videos with the H&N barracuda hunter extreme pellets?

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 11 місяців тому

    Just seen this channel and was wondering what your set up is as those groups are way beyond my old fn19 falcon seems capable of

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому +1

      That's an Anschutz 9015 I'm using. It's a fancy bit of kit but theres absolutely no reason why a healthy fn19 shouldn't match it accuracy wise. My mate and I spent years using fn19s and they are very capable indeed 😉 they are quite sought after too nowdays

  • @denniscampbell8240
    @denniscampbell8240 8 місяців тому

    I have found that I weight my pellets with a jewelry scale and lightly lube my pellets and make sure they are at the right shape,,,,and trust me the accuracy improves big time

  • @williamdownie1290
    @williamdownie1290 11 місяців тому

    sure the copper tipped pellets were called fireballs,just as bad through a.22 hw80

  • @monk1john
    @monk1john 11 місяців тому +2

    Rws power ball them pellets are they still sell them

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      I thought they were but these are much worse.. I've just got some Powerball on the way and they are quite different in the skirt area. I forgot to put one in the thumbnail too 😆

  • @LowkeyAirgunner
    @LowkeyAirgunner 3 місяці тому

    Well I guess I need to give my many penetrator type pellets a go soon or later but they are so expensive that looking at the full tins sounds better 😂

  • @justinfraziet6843
    @justinfraziet6843 8 місяців тому

    He said that the Hornets had a tight fit into the barrel. So it doesn't necessarily look like a good start. You ALWAYS want a tight fitting pellet! ALWAYS! That way the riffling can do its job better! So i dont know what he was talking about with that. No spin, NO ACTUALLY!

  • @steveyountz9184
    @steveyountz9184 11 місяців тому

    Nice job but wouldn't a shooting bench be more comfortable?

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому +1

      I can't easily fall off the floor😉
      I spend a lot of time off the bipod,hft prone and rest bag so I'm quite used to it

    • @steveyountz9184
      @steveyountz9184 11 місяців тому

      @@tillysgunstocks Makes sense and thanks for the quick reply.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  11 місяців тому

      @@steveyountz9184 I do struggle a bit now keeping my heart/chest off the deck as my shoulder is knackered ,running about doing the cameras is not good for a nice low heart rate.. I need to find a solution for that going forward

  • @colinstevens6837
    @colinstevens6837 10 місяців тому

    could the copper ball ones be early rws?

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  10 місяців тому

      Possibly mate, they are the same concept but are quite different to the latest versions, but they could well be the originals?

  • @andrewjones5513
    @andrewjones5513 9 місяців тому

    I think the unknown ones might have been called “ promethius “, but I could be wrong

  • @fisheyeguy
    @fisheyeguy 7 місяців тому

    Those “unknown” pellets are called Gamo “rockets”.