hey there, I have watched SOO MANY of these classes, along with Forensic Phychiatry, I am Qualified DROPP BEAR SMARTY...lol...thankU, Sooooo much...love
I loved it when Mark stretched up and positioned his head just right so that it looked like Hattie’s ears were sprouting out of his head. Hilarious stunt! 😂
I was a high school teacher for 13 years, current HR Director and sometimes high school substitute teacher for the last 10 years and current mom to two teenagers. It's fair to say, I've spent the last 23 years being lied to on a daily basis. Your analysis has given me the language to label what I've observed and also taught me so much more. This interview makes me curious about the differences between children, adolescent and adult body language-if at all. I wish you guys could analyze employees in HR conversations, too!
I love my Behavior Panel. I've identified the four of you by Jungian archetypes. Greg-Everyman/Sage, Mark-Creator/Lover, Chase-Caregiver/Hero, and Scott-Magician/Jester).
I’m 100% with Scott. You NEVER leave a female alone, at night, on a beach. Never. Drinking or not, no. And when he calls his friend for a ride, now he has help! Now there’s two guys that can maneuver her to the car. There’s just no reasonable excuse for leaving her …(if she’s alive).
And now there are two guys who are leaving her alone on the beach at night. So, we know they're self-centered idiots, but are they murderers? We'll probably never know that for certain.
I knew of a case a boyfriend kicked his gf out of a car due to a fight, in the middle of nowhere, and she was raped by a stranger on the return (or trying to return) home 😦 That's extreme. But I'm used to useless guys and men. It's a good thing they don't run me over with their bikes on streets, let alone do something for me.
@@sherryford667 oh yes, we know. The Kalpoe brothers said they all had sex with her "it was easy." She was probably too drunk to defend herself. She may have died from alcohol poisoning and was dead by the time they were finished with her, or they might have deliberately killed her. Somehow they disposed of her body. Thats what we will never know
He is dutch!!! The netherland is an extremely safe country. We arent raised to expect danger everywhere like Americans. And the dutch go everywhere by foot or bike, dutch girls have no problem to go home alone in the middle of the night. When i traveled the first time outside of europe, I had no concept that I could be in danger when i walked around alone as a young women in the middle of the night. I had to learn that.
Do you think we shouldy be careful about making comments that can seem as if we are making sweeping judgments about people we do not know? I don't know that Joran was never told no ... I wonder who WOULD know.
I live in Lima, Peru. I remember when this happened. Joran van der Sloot met a young woman one night at a casino in a nice part of town. Then they went to his hotel room. I think it was the next day they found her bludgeoned in the room.
“I should have stayed home and this wouldn’t have happened TO ME.” Even if we were to consider his story truthful…a girl is missing but he’s still the victim? Ok.
He said that about her mom being Hitler’s sister because she went there and pulled no punches. She demanded answers and publicity and some kind of accountability. There was a lot of bad publicity for him, his family, and Aruba. She also pronounced his name “urine” on every interview, so good for her. It is heartbreaking to watch her in the interviews when this was going on.
The first interview is so unnerving because as Greg pointed out for a seventeen year old he was incredibly calm poised and articulate even though he was lying through his teeth knowing this would be broadcast worldwide
Found guilty today. Confessed to killing Natalee Holloway. This is why this method is vital in bringing criminals off our streets. Amazing. As always “The Behaviour Panel”.
Thank you for analyzing Van Der Sloot. I live in the town where Natalie grew up. She and her mom were customers of mine at the cosmetics counter where I was working at the time. We all want Justice for Natalie.
It’s great. I don’t even bother trying to learn body language because I don’t really need it. But I love how they work with each. And I feel this helps my critical thinking skills
The Lord of the Dance story! 😂😂 My God. You guys are the best-love the lean-ins, the stories, all your great one-liners. Brings some much needed levity to the video. ❤️ Without some humor, few people could watch (let alone work in) criminal justice or interrogation. Instead of being brought down by the sickness of some of the individuals you talk about, we get a really fun and engaging learning experience that still acknowledges the weightier stuff. The vibe the four of you have together is fantastic and I wish I could hang out with you all one day. Best channel I’ve found in many many years.
There are sharks in certain places like Boca Catalina and Colorado Point, where one can encounter a Caribbean reef shark or a hammerhead while snorkelling or swimming. Most of the beaches don't have a problem with them. He is saying Natalie thought there were sharks and wanted to see them, and seems amused. He is amused because he is playing the interveiwer. There are places around Aruba that have sharks, but he is amused that he is playing the interveiwer, and I think he is getting confident that they will believe anything he says. When I heard he confessed, I didn't believe it at first, because he is getting reduced jail time for confessing. After thinking on it for a while, and he said he bludgeoned her to death, well that is the same way he killed Stephany. The judge said that there would be no body found, regarding his confession. And here we have in the first interview, he is talking about sharks. I don't think she asked to see the sharks, I think he did take her where there were sharks, after he killed her. And that is why he is so amused, he is playing the interviewer and flirting with the facts
Could the Hitler 's sister reference just have been a cheap shot at how horrible Natalie supposedly described her mother as being? Natalie's mother gave him a lot of public grief. Retaliation ?
She didn't describe her mother that way. Nothing he says is the truth. Of course it's retaliation for her mother sticking to him as a suspect in her daughter's disappearance. He only said she didn't want to go back home to give some sort of alternate reason Natalie is gone.
@@catserver8577 Of course she didn't describe her mother that way. I should have made that point. So, you inspired me to edit it a tiny bit for clarification. Thanks.
@@catserver8577 thank you! I’m so glad someone else out there realizes people like him lie constantly! Even when they don’t have to, the lies are to shape the situation and prop up his ego. Natalie and her mom were close. But even let’s say hypothetically Natalie did complain about h mom, she didn’t call her Hitler’s sister. Normal young people from good homes don’t come out with commentary like that. But do you know who does come out with commentary like that? Selfish Narcissis that are filled with jealousy hate an evil.
Mark, I like your subtle fun moments - you showed your pen to Chase...Hattie's ears on your head!! You did it! Gotta make life fun. You are all so entertaining. And brilliant!
I forgot to say how much I enjoyed the Hattie's ears on your head. In the beginning I didn't think I would like you but I really love your input and ideas. They make me think.
I think calling her Mum Hitler's sister is another evil dig at her Mum. He asked for money from her Mum to reveal where Nat's body was located. He experiences pleasure hurting and torturing Nat's family. Disgusting and sadistic.
he is horrible, as we all know by now, Back when he was 17 there were doubts, but calling her mom Hitlers sister is almost impossible. How old would she be? I remember this in Aruba, not knowing how evil he was....
FYI, Joran lived in a private, separate room (with house-like amenities) behind his parent's house. He brought women there frequently. There was no problem with bothering any of the rest of the family from there. I can't watch any more of that liar.
Caught my attention when Joran said that he told his friend to come back and pick himself up. He didn’t say, “Pick us up.” I don’t think he ever intended for her to leave that beach/ocean alive. Also, so weird when he says, she didn’t have any last words. She must have, but he would never reveal what they were, because they would indict him.
This guy loves to taunt her mother. I've heard Hitler's sister used as a way to describe a horrible human being , specifically a female. Him saying she said her mom was Hitler's sister was just trying to put it in her poor mom's head that maybe her daughter was upset with her before she passed away or that she was saying nasty things about her. And now she will always have to wonder. Just pure evil. That's my take on it anyway. I've seen a lot of stuff on this over the years and it's his style to do something like that for fun. Take my opinion for what it's worth, obviously.
I 💯 took it as a jab at her mom. He knew exactly what he was saying. she was his number one enemy when Natalie went missing and her family found out who he was.
Wow. as a dutch person i followed the story from the beginning. there is a video where he confesses to a "friend" in a car what happened to miss Holloway. maybe you can look into that. thanks as ever.
If someone told me, "My mum is Hitler's sister", in no way would I take it literally. When he said that, my first thought was she meant her mum was a tyrant, not that Natalee was literally Hitler's niece.
The hitler’s sister comment is just him being annoyed by her mom because she was not letting go. She made it really difficult for him, biting herself into this case. She is a momma bear, a pitbull who is, understandably, wanting to go to the bottom of this. He was furious at her! He is/was used to get away with things and Natalie’s mom was not letting go. He wanted to make her mom look bad. It was way to punish her, to hurt her. On top of the horrible fact the mom lost her child. Pretty evil. It came from him, Nathalie never made that comment.
I appreciated the mention of Dutch people being tall, something I did not know before. It prompted me to Google and apparently Joran is 6'5" while Natalie was only 5'4" - wow! I'm about five years older than Natalie, so I remember watching this case on the news as it happened, but it really puts a whole different spin on your mental images of what could have happened realizing there was a 13" height difference between them. Thank you, gentlemen!
I would have loved for Greg to have 10 minutes with VAN Der Sloot alone. She was my best friends first cousin. I'm from Birmingham originally. That family will never be the same. My friend tells me the parents can't forgive themselves because they feel responsible. Of course that is ridiculous, however, I was quite naive at that age myself. Unfortunately, she met the worst person by sheer happenstance, to her. I think he picked up on her naiveté and used it against her.
I find it weird that he says if he could do it over, he says he wouldn’t go out that night. Not that he would walk her back to the hotel or insist she ride back with him and his friend. His concern is only with himself, he has no protectiveness for women at all.
My biggest question is about Deepak … everyone’s out drinking and he’s the designated driver for the night and you can call him later even after he dropped you at one location and he’ll come get you again … on a school night. Interesting guy … running a free cab service all night long. I’d like to see his interview
I know you 4 guys have heard this a million times. But your abilities in reading body language is so right on. Bless you all for the work you do in nailing body language.
He hated that her mother wouldn't give up, he realized that she would be relentless to the end, she would never leave him alone and that ultimately he probably realized that in terms of commitment and resolve, she was an unbeatable foe and one hundred percent his life-long nemesis. So he had to ad hominem attack her in a way that he knew could hurt her deeply~forgetting to remember that Natalie would have never said such a thing. It was a cheap and ugly little lie, because that's who he is
Scott is pretty much spot on- although we can't speak to everyone. The first thought I would have about leaving a girl alone in that situation would be "no, I can't leave you here, because if something were to happen to you, not only is there a chance I'd be blamed, but actually one way or another I am responsible."
Imagine being asked, what would you do differently that night? and instead of saying, I'd tell Natalie to GO HOME, so she'll be safe, you instead say, I'd stay home...what a hero. Either way, this kids sucks.
When he was asked what Natalie said about herself, everything that he said that she said was everything that was in the news that he would already know. When he said Natalie described her mother as Hitler's sister? That's what he thinks of Natalies mother, because she was all over Aruba trying to get answers on Natalie's whereabouts and she knew he had something to do with her disappearance. He despises Natalie's mother.
In the Netherlands we say "we zitten in het zand" IN the sand translated. And we are walking OVER the beach. (we lopen over het strand) . Nice video again, gentlemen, It all makes sense.
Young Natalie Holloway disappeared in Aruba on May 30th, 2005. Rumor has it that Joran Van der Sloot's dad owns half the island. Joran was in Lima, Peru, when he killed young Stephany Flores on May 30th, 2010. After the second murder he flew to Chile, where he was apprehended and extradited to Peru. He was sentenced to 20 something years and was serving his sentence when the Peruvian government allowed his "temporary extradition" (?) to the US. A serial killer in the making? Or a pro?🤔🤔
He gave it away when he said it’s not like we talked for 3 hours . He talked to her for 3 hours and when she wouldn’t have sex he got pissed. Period. He made up the condom story because he is too embarrassed about being rejected. What guy takes a girl on the beach only then to realize no condom He is a classic case of could not handle rejection and if she laughed at him at all that is why she died .
Dutch person here: 'sitting in the sand' is just the way sitting on the sand is said in Dutch. (In Dutch one would say 'sit on the sand' only if the sand is really dense and packed together so that it forms a completely flat and hard surface - for loose sand you'd use 'in'. Languages, even closely related languages like Dutch and English, vary a lot in how they conceptualize space and employ prepositions). He changes it to 'sit on the sand' because he realizes that's how it's said in English. So there's nothing in his language there, what he's saying is compatible in Dutch with a perfectly fine and healthy person sitting on the beach. (Other than that, he is a liar and a murderer, obviously).
@irisalsusername Interesting distinction. The other day I was watching the episode on Lori Vallow. I saw many comments about her speech patterns. A lot of ppl thought the way she spoke was an indicator of guilt. I was completely comfortable, if not a bit confused, with the way she spoke. It is specific to the Inland Empire in Southern California. I wondered how she came by her manner of speaking, as I thought she was from Arizona or Utah. I checked where she grew up. In fact, she grew up in the heart of the Inland Empire! She and I grew up rather near each other. I went to college in Michigan. Interestingly enough, I remember the professor from my Speech class telling me that my particular accent might tend to give ppl outside So Cal the impression that I'm being dishonest! ... Language is such a nuanced thing! The difference between "on" or "in" might make a big difference, depending on where you live. A regional cadence might instil mistrust. These things are endlessly fascinating to me. I bet a person could study such minor differences in habits of speech for their whole life, and still never scratch the surface.
Scott nails it as usual! This guy is so selfish that it was more important for him to go home to go to sleep, or whatever, then to have concern about leaving a young woman on the beach in a foreign country( to her). The reason I say this guy is a narcissist is because first everything is about him saying that she didn’t want to leave me. She didn’t want to go home because she was having a good time (with me). Then this part where he leaves her on the beach, demonstrates his complete and total selfishness. 2 strikes on the narcissism scale.
Many, many years ago I was vacationing in Aruba with friends. We decided to go snorkeling near the 'natural bridge." When some of the islanders heard of our plans, they freaked out and became very concerned. They told us that the area was SHARK INFESTED! Now, you have this liar saying there are no sharks in Aruba. I have my own scenario in my mind of her last evening, and it's frightening with this creep involved.
You are so right Scott. Not only was he not raised right’ - his father apparently wielded his power as a local judge, allowing this ‘dirt@&g’ to do anything he wanted on the island….. As pointed out, he kills a woman 5yrs later- apparently she looked at his phone and he beat her to death. He tried to fight being extradited, but it hasn’t worked and hopefully he’ll get the max for extorting poor Beth Holloway …… hopefully a prison in the US will wipe the smirk off his face….. PS- Mark- 100% on the Dropbear story 😉😁
@@jonnekevanoijen5625 maybe but apparently he had as much alcohol as he wanted and was running his own drug business behind bars. He won’t have the network in the US or the familial support to make his life cushy….
Not to tear down our precious Nashville Scott but I was born and raised here in a town called Brentwood. This kid is like every other guy I grew up with. Entitled, takes no responsibility for his actions because he doesn't have to in his world. Guilty IMO. I LOVE this channel but this jerk isn't even a hard read. Brat. Nothing is his fault. It "shouldn't have HAPPENED to him, it would've been SOMEONE ELSE". I hope there is justice for Natalie.
Just my opinion, but I think he's been coaxed here. He's cocky and arrogant, while he's sticking to his script. He's emotionless. I dont think she willingly had any sexual encounter, she was forced. I think she wanted to go back and the Mom comment was her saying she had to check in right away and he turned that around. I think he is using this to brag, her lying on top of him or wanted to stay with him is all a fairytale. He WISHES happened. He had no feelings for her, because he has none. Yuck, he is so creepy. This week he admitted to it. 😢
The whole "she wanted to come along/she went after me/she stayed in the car" is victimblaming with a very clear function: making her look less innocent so that what he did to her is more validated in his mind. I think he used her/ was aggressive and dumped her body in the sea. We Dutchies all think this more or less.
In 2008 joran told a very different story and it was recorded by hidden cameras in a car. He said on tape that they were on the beach, she got unwell and she died. He called his friends and dumped her in the ocean. It's still a mystery what really happend.
Awesome video!! Will you guys please consider doing Kouri Richins?? She allegedly wrote a kids book about grief after killing her husband. There are some interviews of her promoting the book before she was arrested and I’d love to hear what you guys have to say about it!!! Love your channel!
I have often wondered what the chaperones on that trip thought they were there for. I have no doubt they quickly lawyered up to protect themselves from bad publicity and civil liability, but the whole senior trip idea was nuts.
@@benjaminhawthorne1969 Don't you wonder about these vacations, with chaperones who get a free trip for their services? I bet the chaperones were having a good time while those kids were partying in a club with the locals
As a foreigner myself, I wouldn't pay attention to "sitting IN the sand" versus "sitting ON the sand". At least in Spanish, in this context, both "in" and "on" translate to "en", so it is a very common error, not a Freudian slip.
I don’t think they were meaning that, I think they were meaning when asking how someone was, you would say happy, sad, worried, drunk, tired etc describe their demeanour, not state what she was doing or where she was.
I really love how great these guys are at discussing serious issues, combined with their sense of humor. Without ever making the situation as it is ridiculous. And without showing graphic details pointing the case. Great work!.
The comment where he said "sitting in the sand" and then corrected himself by saying "sitting on the sand" is entirely explainable by the fact that in his native Dutch language, one would say sitting IN the sand. It would be a very unusual thing in Dutch to say ON the sand, but you can sit on the beach in Dutch.That said, he is a despicable person.
Unfortunatly this is a Dutch person but not one we're proud of. His name is pronounced like Yoran van there Slowed. I've seen lot's of footage at the time of this and also what the undercover journalist who went on a car trip with him got out of him. I don't think at that time he was a cold hearted killer. However he does know how she died and did try to hide the evidence of what happened. Think most likely scenario is that both of them used drugs and/or alcohol and something bad happened to her because of this (overdoses or an accident due to irrational and dangerous behaviour). Think after this happened he got help from probably his father who happened to be a laywer, to get rid of her body / shoes (using a boat dumping them in the ocean). And knowing what to do next (go to school the next day) and what to say and not to say to agents and in court. So don't think at that time he was a cold killer but he is hiding the truth of what happened.
Thanks for the pronunciation! I've heard this name said 10 different ways and it turns out they're all wrong 😂. Pet peeve of mine to watch or read something and not know how to pronounce it in my mind.
This guy has also told so many different versions of the story. I almost forgot that car ride with the journalist. And then to extort money from her mother to lead her to the body. What a piece of work!
Scott - you are so right - no decent person would leave a female on her own on the beach. There is def much more to the story than this guy is telling - and I am feeling all sorts of alarm bells going off listening to and watching him !!
I wish you could see this guys original confession. It was with an undercover agent who was trying to pretend to be best friends with him for many months. He confessed in the car with this undercover agent and the car was fully wired with microphones and cameras. They speak dutch in this video so it its a shame you guys wont be able to analyze it properly
I remember seeing that video, I was like “about time!” But unfortunately his claims have been debunked. Some things he had said didn’t fit. He’s confessed to multiple outcomes to the point where everyone knows he did it, but have accepted they will never know how.
We all know this jerk killed this girl, probably strangled her on the beach when she resisted him. That he killed another woman a few years later is infuriating.
Dude Scott kills me. It’s so me in every conversation. And then I try to make it faster cause no one wants to hear it and then it makes me more stoked and I can’t stop the word roller coaster 😅🎉
I have to say this in the moment because it gave me a good laugh. When Scott Rouse talks about the eyebrow thing, I had a flash of the various scenes between couples that could/will potentially unfold as a result of that being said. 😅 I hope the panel members remain accessible as their success grows. That's part of the charm. Try not to separate yourselves too much from your audience.
@@KissimeeFL If I leave a link, UA-cam will automatically delete it. But if you search for these two titles, in youtube, you'll find them. 1.) WE CAN MAKE YOU TALK 2.) THE GITMO DIARIES In both of these, Greg has agreed to take part in a realistic experiment with volunteers. It recreates the way POW's were interrogated. The volunteers can stop and leave if it gets to be too much. If you find out hard to recognize Greg, he looks the same but has red hair, cut very short. Let me know if you can't find the videos.
As soon as he said she wanted to see sharks at night, it made me think he killed her. And when he said the cockamamee story about her mother being Hitlers sister, only confirmed it. He also blinked too much.
It doesnt make sense when he states that he asked her to have sex but didnt end up having sex because he had no condom, he never stated that he looked for one and realized he didnt have one, wouldn't he have known whether he had one or not from the very beginning? Sounds very fishy to me.....perhaps he wanted to engage in sex and she refused and he got forceful. Stating he would never have sex without a condom sounds like a cover for the true act that took place.
Yeah I don't believe him a bit. I think he went out of his way to avoid using condoms. That seems more accurate to me. I think she did refuse to have sex though ,so he, and probably his friends too, attacked her. Then they did not want to leave her alive because she could report them. So they decided to murder her, and bring her out into the ocean to leave her there.
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I'm still impressed that you guys can say, "Single shoulder shrug" without missing a beat.
hey there, I have watched SOO MANY of these classes, along with Forensic Phychiatry, I am Qualified DROPP BEAR SMARTY...lol...thankU, Sooooo much...love
The bit about him talking about how he left his shoes chills me to my core. What would possess anyone to smile then?
I enjoy your channel, ty. I would like for you to do analysis of JSB, in the Wells case.
@@gilenasimons7081The shoes were bloody.
Scott, I dearly love it when Hattie shows up in frame with you. Please have her as a guest on the channel more often!
I loved it when Mark stretched up and positioned his head just right so that it looked like Hattie’s ears were sprouting out of his head. Hilarious stunt! 😂
Me every time there's an episode I want to watch immediately, only to realize it's not out yet: OH MAN!
I was all excited and then saw that it won't be available until 2:30am Australian Eastern Standard Time. 😭
@@nancysmith6053 😅
Same!! Still waiting 🤣🍿🥤
Same here. Watching from
Germany
Same 👍🏻
I wanna see this guy alone in a room with Greg!
Sign me up for THAT one!!!
I'd pay money for that. Pay per view. YES!
Right. He gives off sweet grandpa vibes………… until he doesn’t lol.
I'd like to see him alone in a room with Jeffrey Dahlmer
Greg reminds me of my dad. One look, and I'd wet my pants and confess to everything I've ever done in my life. 😂
I was a high school teacher for 13 years, current HR Director and sometimes high school substitute teacher for the last 10 years and current mom to two teenagers. It's fair to say, I've spent the last 23 years being lied to on a daily basis. Your analysis has given me the language to label what I've observed and also taught me so much more. This interview makes me curious about the differences between children, adolescent and adult body language-if at all. I wish you guys could analyze employees in HR conversations, too!
That's a topic I'd be interested in
I love my Behavior Panel. I've identified the four of you by Jungian archetypes. Greg-Everyman/Sage, Mark-Creator/Lover, Chase-Caregiver/Hero, and Scott-Magician/Jester).
I’m 100% with Scott. You NEVER leave a female alone, at night, on a beach. Never. Drinking or not, no. And when he calls his friend for a ride, now he has help! Now there’s two guys that can maneuver her to the car. There’s just no reasonable excuse for leaving her …(if she’s alive).
And now there are two guys who are leaving her alone on the beach at night. So, we know they're self-centered idiots, but are they murderers? We'll probably never know that for certain.
Good point now you have two guys that could lift her up, if she was drunk and get her back to her room.
I knew of a case a boyfriend kicked his gf out of a car due to a fight, in the middle of nowhere, and she was raped by a stranger on the return (or trying to return) home 😦 That's extreme. But I'm used to useless guys and men. It's a good thing they don't run me over with their bikes on streets, let alone do something for me.
@@sherryford667 oh yes, we know. The Kalpoe brothers said they all had sex with her "it was easy." She was probably too drunk to defend herself. She may have died from alcohol poisoning and was dead by the time they were finished with her, or they might have deliberately killed her. Somehow they disposed of her body. Thats what we will never know
@@pattihill7244 Yes I dont believe many persons commenting are aware he is in prison
Scott, you’re right. If he left her alone on a strange beach by herself at night, he definitely wasn’t raised right. No question.
But, he didn’t leave her on a beach and walk away, he killed her and disposed of her body.
He is dutch!!! The netherland is an extremely safe country. We arent raised to expect danger everywhere like Americans. And the dutch go everywhere by foot or bike, dutch girls have no problem to go home alone in the middle of the night. When i traveled the first time outside of europe, I had no concept that I could be in danger when i walked around alone as a young women in the middle of the night. I had to learn that.
A great example of an entitled young man who was never told "no".
Do you think we shouldy be careful about making comments that can seem as if we are making sweeping judgments about people we do not know? I don't know that Joran was never told no ... I wonder who WOULD know.
@C.B.61 I was thinking the same sort of thing. There may be a million and one reasons and thank God I can't imagine how anyone could do such things.
Stephanie, that may be one reason but this guy is "Cold" and seems peppered with evil. Who knows?...
I live in Lima, Peru. I remember when this happened. Joran van der Sloot met a young woman one night at a casino in a nice part of town. Then they went to his hotel room. I think it was the next day they found her bludgeoned in the room.
Yes, it was. The video camera outside the room nailed him as the killer.
Mark with Haddie's ears made my day! 💕
“I should have stayed home and this wouldn’t have happened TO ME.” Even if we were to consider his story truthful…a girl is missing but he’s still the victim? Ok.
Right!!
I noticed that too. And I think he even followed that with: "It would have happened to someone else." WTF?
Narcissistic Psychopath
You never want to be sitting across from Greg and all of a sudden he says: "Hold on" 😬
Haha yes. I heard that in his voice. I’d just give up the code word right then, it’s a lost cause at “hold on..” *poke, poke, poke*
True 😅
Tbh you need more finesse than that to be successful. He does not mean it literally I hope.
He said that about her mom being Hitler’s sister because she went there and pulled no punches. She demanded answers and publicity and some kind of accountability. There was a lot of bad publicity for him, his family, and Aruba. She also pronounced his name “urine” on every interview, so good for her. It is heartbreaking to watch her in the interviews when this was going on.
The first interview is so unnerving because as Greg pointed out for a seventeen year old he was incredibly calm poised and articulate even though he was lying through his teeth knowing this would be broadcast worldwide
He was prepped and prolly on Xanax
Found guilty today.
Confessed to killing Natalee Holloway.
This is why this method is vital in bringing criminals off our streets.
Amazing.
As always “The Behaviour Panel”.
I’d pay money to see you guys do a Behavior Panel Bloopers video. I bet the stuff Scott cuts out is hilarious.
That would be good!
I second this! 🤚🏽
I second that emotion. A Christmas blooper reel would be great! 🎄 🎁
And a compilation of Chase talking on and on, while on mute, in earlier videos so dang funny.
Thank you for analyzing Van Der Sloot. I live in the town where Natalie grew up. She and her mom were customers of mine at the cosmetics counter where I was working at the time. We all want Justice for Natalie.
Me too, Susie!
I've been on UA-cam for 10 years now and never come across such an addicting channel like The Behavior Panel. It's a healthy addiction!
It’s great. I don’t even bother trying to learn body language because I don’t really need it. But I love how they work with each. And I feel this helps my critical thinking skills
The Lord of the Dance story! 😂😂 My God.
You guys are the best-love the lean-ins, the stories, all your great one-liners. Brings some much needed levity to the video. ❤️ Without some humor, few people could watch (let alone work in) criminal justice or interrogation. Instead of being brought down by the sickness of some of the individuals you talk about, we get a really fun and engaging learning experience that still acknowledges the weightier stuff. The vibe the four of you have together is fantastic and I wish I could hang out with you all one day. Best channel I’ve found in many many years.
There are sharks in certain places like Boca Catalina and Colorado Point, where one can encounter a Caribbean reef shark or a hammerhead while snorkelling or swimming. Most of the beaches don't have a problem with them. He is saying Natalie thought there were sharks and wanted to see them, and seems amused. He is amused because he is playing the interveiwer. There are places around Aruba that have sharks, but he is amused that he is playing the interveiwer, and I think he is getting confident that they will believe anything he says. When I heard he confessed, I didn't believe it at first, because he is getting reduced jail time for confessing. After thinking on it for a while, and he said he bludgeoned her to death, well that is the same way he killed Stephany. The judge said that there would be no body found, regarding his confession. And here we have in the first interview, he is talking about sharks. I don't think she asked to see the sharks, I think he did take her where there were sharks, after he killed her. And that is why he is so amused, he is playing the interviewer and flirting with the facts
Could the Hitler 's sister reference just have been a cheap shot at how horrible Natalie supposedly described her mother as being? Natalie's mother gave him a lot of public grief. Retaliation ?
She didn't describe her mother that way. Nothing he says is the truth. Of course it's retaliation for her mother sticking to him as a suspect in her daughter's disappearance. He only said she didn't want to go back home to give some sort of alternate reason Natalie is gone.
That's exactly what he was doing!
Absolutely. Nasty ugly little pycho .
@@catserver8577 Of course she didn't describe her mother that way. I should have made that point. So, you inspired me to edit it a tiny bit for clarification. Thanks.
@@catserver8577 thank you! I’m so glad someone else out there realizes people like him lie constantly! Even when they don’t have to, the lies are to shape the situation and prop up his ego. Natalie and her mom were close. But even let’s say hypothetically Natalie did complain about h mom, she didn’t call her Hitler’s sister. Normal young people from good homes don’t come out with commentary like that. But do you know who does come out with commentary like that? Selfish Narcissis that are filled with jealousy hate an evil.
Mark, I like your subtle fun moments - you showed your pen to Chase...Hattie's ears on your head!! You did it! Gotta make life fun. You are all so entertaining. And brilliant!
I forgot to say how much I enjoyed the Hattie's ears on your head. In the beginning I didn't think I would like you but I really love your input and ideas. They make me think.
Yes Mark has the greatest laugh, big and open, they have such good energy for these dark topics.
This guy makes my blood run cold and sick to my stomach. 🤢🤮🤮 I'm sure I'm not alone.
I think calling her Mum Hitler's sister is another evil dig at her Mum. He asked for money from her Mum to reveal where Nat's body was located. He experiences pleasure hurting and torturing Nat's family. Disgusting and sadistic.
he is horrible, as we all know by now, Back when he was 17 there were doubts, but calling her mom Hitlers sister is almost impossible. How old would she be? I remember this in Aruba, not knowing how evil he was....
FYI, Joran lived in a private, separate room (with house-like amenities) behind his parent's house. He brought women there frequently. There was no problem with bothering any of the rest of the family from there.
I can't watch any more of that liar.
Caught my attention when Joran said that he told his friend to come back and pick himself up. He didn’t say, “Pick us up.” I don’t think he ever intended for her to leave that beach/ocean alive. Also, so weird when he says, she didn’t have any last words. She must have, but he would never reveal what they were, because they would indict him.
Because her last words were probably along the lines of "please, I just wanna go home."
@jjslemp3 If you can believe anything he says
@@Jeannedardor exactly, because we can't - what a lying scumbag!
Good catch!
This guy loves to taunt her mother. I've heard Hitler's sister used as a way to describe a horrible human being , specifically a female. Him saying she said her mom was Hitler's sister was just trying to put it in her poor mom's head that maybe her daughter was upset with her before she passed away or that she was saying nasty things about her. And now she will always have to wonder. Just pure evil. That's my take on it anyway. I've seen a lot of stuff on this over the years and it's his style to do something like that for fun. Take my opinion for what it's worth, obviously.
I 💯 took it as a jab at her mom. He knew exactly what he was saying. she was his number one enemy when Natalie went missing and her family found out who he was.
Agreed.
Wow. as a dutch person i followed the story from the beginning. there is a video where he confesses to a "friend" in a car what happened to miss Holloway. maybe you can look into that. thanks as ever.
If someone told me, "My mum is Hitler's sister", in no way would I take it literally. When he said that, my first thought was she meant her mum was a tyrant, not that Natalee was literally Hitler's niece.
The hitler’s sister comment is just him being annoyed by her mom because she was not letting go. She made it really difficult for him, biting herself into this case. She is a momma bear, a pitbull who is, understandably, wanting to go to the bottom of this. He was furious at her! He is/was used to get away with things and Natalie’s mom was not letting go. He wanted to make her mom look bad. It was way to punish her, to hurt her. On top of the horrible fact the mom lost her child. Pretty evil. It came from him, Nathalie never made that comment.
Totally agree!
Killing someone 5 years to the day of Natalie's death... Innocent people are always committing anniversary murders ya know!? 🤦
I appreciated the mention of Dutch people being tall, something I did not know before. It prompted me to Google and apparently Joran is 6'5" while Natalie was only 5'4" - wow! I'm about five years older than Natalie, so I remember watching this case on the news as it happened, but it really puts a whole different spin on your mental images of what could have happened realizing there was a 13" height difference between them. Thank you, gentlemen!
I would have loved for Greg to have 10 minutes with VAN Der Sloot alone. She was my best friends first cousin. I'm from Birmingham originally. That family will never be the same. My friend tells me the parents can't forgive themselves because they feel responsible. Of course that is ridiculous, however, I was quite naive at that age myself. Unfortunately, she met the worst person by sheer happenstance, to her. I think he picked up on her naiveté and used it against her.
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I find it weird that he says if he could do it over, he says he wouldn’t go out that night. Not that he would walk her back to the hotel or insist she ride back with him and his friend.
His concern is only with himself, he has no protectiveness for women at all.
I think he knows he's the problem in the equation. If he wouldn't have met her she would be fine. That's the way to resolve it all.
Oooh good catch.
Because of he walked her back to the hotel, she would be alive.
Someone helped him dispose of her body, he didnt just drag her into the water..he took a boat and cybderblocks to weight her body down
My biggest question is about Deepak … everyone’s out drinking and he’s the designated driver for the night and you can call him later even after he dropped you at one location and he’ll come get you again … on a school night. Interesting guy … running a free cab service all night long.
I’d like to see his interview
Never go off with strangers while visiting a foreign country, she thought she was safe in Aruba, very sad....
Never go off with any stranger. Sad, but women are not safe around men.
I like it that Scott is such a gentleman. He wouldn't leave a girl alone. Sad to think there are some that would
He has the nice, debonair Southern gentlemanly type of manners.❤
I know you 4 guys have heard this a million times. But your abilities in reading body language is so right on. Bless you all for the work you do in nailing body language.
Brilliant analysis in light of today’s confession.
He hated that her mother wouldn't give up, he realized that she would be relentless to the end, she would never leave him alone and that ultimately he probably realized that in terms of commitment and resolve, she was an unbeatable foe and one hundred percent his life-long nemesis.
So he had to ad hominem attack her in a way that he knew could hurt her deeply~forgetting to remember that Natalie would have never said such a thing. It was a cheap and ugly little lie, because that's who he is
Spot on
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What Natalie quote are you referring to?
@@trailrider7046 The above comment refers to Joran saying "Natalie told me that her mother was Hitler's sister."
Scott is pretty much spot on- although we can't speak to everyone. The first thought I would have about leaving a girl alone in that situation would be "no, I can't leave you here, because if something were to happen to you, not only is there a chance I'd be blamed, but actually one way or another I am responsible."
Good point
Mark, the Cinderella analogy was brilliant. Love your insights.
The lean in….like a synchronized swimming. Beautiful in its simplicity and impressive in its presentation. A three way tie for sure.
You need to be doing those golf shows. ❤️👍 (Scott here)
Bravo 👏
LOVE Greg’s smile when Scott says the kid wasn’t raised right! 😊
TBP is the BEST show on YT! 👍🏻😍👍🏻
I will be utterly shocked if Joran Van Der Sloot only killed 2 women.
He'd been human trafficing in Thailand for the in between years so agree with you.
@@PanicattheDiscourse Is this true? Where is the info about that?
@@peakydene1943 a Dutch investigative journalist followed him (Peter R de Vries) and made hidden camera recordings.
He’s a Diddy. A human trafficker is a whole different mind set-a psychopath.
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Imagine being asked, what would you do differently that night? and instead of saying, I'd tell Natalie to GO HOME, so she'll be safe, you instead say, I'd stay home...what a hero. Either way, this kids sucks.
When he was asked what Natalie said about herself, everything that he said that she said was everything that was in the news that he would already know.
When he said Natalie described her mother as Hitler's sister? That's what he thinks of Natalies mother, because she was all over Aruba trying to get answers on Natalie's whereabouts and she knew he had something to do with her disappearance.
He despises Natalie's mother.
I feel as if Natalee turned him down and he couldn't handle being rejected. It pissed him off therefore he murdered her.
He's so smug and arrogant I could tell within first five mins he's guilty.
In the Netherlands we say "we zitten in het zand" IN the sand translated. And we are walking OVER the beach. (we lopen over het strand) . Nice video again, gentlemen, It all makes sense.
Internal Translation, that makes sense. Didn't Chase bring up Culture?? I think it was him...🤨😉
Mark is on the ball with this video, Love, Love, Love it!!!❤
Young Natalie Holloway disappeared in Aruba on May 30th, 2005. Rumor has it that Joran Van der Sloot's dad owns half the island. Joran was in Lima, Peru, when he killed young Stephany Flores on May 30th, 2010. After the second murder he flew to Chile, where he was apprehended and extradited to Peru. He was sentenced to 20 something years and was serving his sentence when the Peruvian government allowed his "temporary extradition" (?) to the US. A serial killer in the making? Or a pro?🤔🤔
He gave it away when he said it’s not like we talked for 3 hours . He talked to her for 3 hours and when she wouldn’t have sex he got pissed. Period. He made up the condom story because he is too embarrassed about being rejected. What guy takes a girl on the beach only then to realize no condom
He is a classic case of could not handle rejection and if she laughed at him at all that is why she died .
Most likely answer
Love Greg’s approach on this one. Nailing him on every detail. Leave no pause out!
15:55 Hattie sighting, I didn't hear a word they said she's too cute! I had to rewind, we need a 5th box for Hattie cam please!🙏❤🐾🐾
Dutch person here: 'sitting in the sand' is just the way sitting on the sand is said in Dutch. (In Dutch one would say 'sit on the sand' only if the sand is really dense and packed together so that it forms a completely flat and hard surface - for loose sand you'd use 'in'. Languages, even closely related languages like Dutch and English, vary a lot in how they conceptualize space and employ prepositions). He changes it to 'sit on the sand' because he realizes that's how it's said in English. So there's nothing in his language there, what he's saying is compatible in Dutch with a perfectly fine and healthy person sitting on the beach. (Other than that, he is a liar and a murderer, obviously).
I love nuances like this. “Sitting in” makes sense too when you think of it. You are situated in the soft sand after all.
@irisalsusername Interesting distinction. The other day I was watching the episode on Lori Vallow. I saw many comments about her speech patterns. A lot of ppl thought the way she spoke was an indicator of guilt. I was completely comfortable, if not a bit confused, with the way she spoke. It is specific to the Inland Empire in Southern California. I wondered how she came by her manner of speaking, as I thought she was from Arizona or Utah. I checked where she grew up. In fact, she grew up in the heart of the Inland Empire! She and I grew up rather near each other. I went to college in Michigan. Interestingly enough, I remember the professor from my Speech class telling me that my particular accent might tend to give ppl outside So Cal the impression that I'm being dishonest! ... Language is such a nuanced thing! The difference between "on" or "in" might make a big difference, depending on where you live. A regional cadence might instil mistrust. These things are endlessly fascinating to me. I bet a person could study such minor differences in habits of speech for their whole life, and still never scratch the surface.
Scott nails it as usual! This guy is so selfish that it was more important for him to go home to go to sleep, or whatever, then to have concern about leaving a young woman on the beach in a foreign country( to her). The reason I say this guy is a narcissist is because first everything is about him saying that she didn’t want to leave me. She didn’t want to go home because she was having a good time (with me). Then this part where he leaves her on the beach, demonstrates his complete and total selfishness. 2 strikes on the narcissism scale.
And an apparent lack of empathy for the victim.
@@Judygurl2 Absolutely! And he plays the victim and disparages her. Ugh! This guy is so horrible!
I like how Chase adds in his 5 stats. And he adds other things in. You guys are all awesome!
Chase is definatley to me the one with the most insight his gift is very powerful
Many, many years ago I was vacationing in Aruba with friends. We decided to go snorkeling near the 'natural bridge." When some of the islanders heard of our plans, they freaked out and became very concerned. They told us that the area was SHARK INFESTED! Now, you have this liar saying there are no sharks in Aruba. I have my own scenario in my mind of her last evening, and it's frightening with this creep involved.
You are so right Scott. Not only was he not raised right’ - his father apparently wielded his power as a local judge, allowing this ‘dirt@&g’ to do anything he wanted on the island…..
As pointed out, he kills a woman 5yrs later- apparently she looked at his phone and he beat her to death. He tried to fight being extradited, but it hasn’t worked and hopefully he’ll get the max for extorting poor Beth Holloway …… hopefully a prison in the US will wipe the smirk off his face…..
PS- Mark- 100% on the Dropbear story 😉😁
I am not sure a US prison is tougher than the South-American prisons; he started out in a very rough prison
@@jonnekevanoijen5625 maybe but apparently he had as much alcohol as he wanted and was running his own drug business behind bars. He won’t have the network in the US or the familial support to make his life cushy….
Not to tear down our precious Nashville Scott but I was born and raised here in a town called Brentwood. This kid is like every other guy I grew up with. Entitled, takes no responsibility for his actions because he doesn't have to in his world. Guilty IMO. I LOVE this channel but this jerk isn't even a hard read. Brat. Nothing is his fault. It "shouldn't have HAPPENED to him, it would've been SOMEONE ELSE". I hope there is justice for Natalie.
Nailed it. - (Scott here.)
Just a quick comment on how well the 4 of you interact - so nice to see the respect and attentiveness you give to each other during your analyses.
Just my opinion, but I think he's been coaxed here. He's cocky and arrogant, while he's sticking to his script. He's emotionless. I dont think she willingly had any sexual encounter, she was forced. I think she wanted to go back and the Mom comment was her saying she had to check in right away and he turned that around. I think he is using this to brag, her lying on top of him or wanted to stay with him is all a fairytale. He WISHES happened. He had no feelings for her, because he has none. Yuck, he is so creepy. This week he admitted to it. 😢
I love Scotts little dog who keeps peeking at the screen! Hee hee! 🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶
The whole "she wanted to come along/she went after me/she stayed in the car" is victimblaming with a very clear function: making her look less innocent so that what he did to her is more validated in his mind. I think he used her/ was aggressive and dumped her body in the sea. We Dutchies all think this more or less.
In 2008 joran told a very different story and it was recorded by hidden cameras in a car. He said on tape that they were on the beach, she got unwell and she died. He called his friends and dumped her in the ocean. It's still a mystery what really happend.
I love how Mark always pulls out his pen for the notes!!😊
Wow mark your insight into leaving your shoes behind is wow….
Awesome video!! Will you guys please consider doing Kouri Richins?? She allegedly wrote a kids book about grief after killing her husband. There are some interviews of her promoting the book before she was arrested and I’d love to hear what you guys have to say about it!!! Love your channel!
Oh my goodness, I just love Scott. He wasn't raised right 😂.
I have often wondered what the chaperones on that trip thought they were there for. I have no doubt they quickly lawyered up to protect themselves from bad publicity and civil liability, but the whole senior trip idea was nuts.
@@benjaminhawthorne1969 Don't you wonder about these vacations, with chaperones who get a free trip for their services? I bet the chaperones were having a good time while those kids were partying in a club with the locals
Mark's joy at wearing Hattie's ears is so infectious. That's why I love these guys!
I feel you missunderstood the hitlers sister reference. She is stating that her mother is very authoritarian to the point of evil.
Very astute observation.
As a foreigner myself, I wouldn't pay attention to "sitting IN the sand" versus "sitting ON the sand". At least in Spanish, in this context, both "in" and "on" translate to "en", so it is a very common error, not a Freudian slip.
I was thinking the same thing, as a non native speaker, how can you take the word choice as a big component.
I don’t think they were meaning that, I think they were meaning when asking how someone was, you would say happy, sad, worried, drunk, tired etc describe their demeanour, not state what she was doing or where she was.
But hey, isn't it great about that lady in Chase's class who realized she needed to research the baby sitter? Way to educate, Chase!
If he had half a clue he would at least pretend to be concerned for her. What a horrible wee creep!
I really love how great these guys are at discussing serious issues, combined with their sense of humor. Without ever making the situation as it is ridiculous. And without showing graphic details pointing the case. Great work!.
Oh my goodness! I was in tears with your Lord of the Dance story, Scott.
The comment where he said "sitting in the sand" and then corrected himself by saying "sitting on the sand" is entirely explainable by the fact that in his native Dutch language, one would say sitting IN the sand. It would be a very unusual thing in Dutch to say ON the sand, but you can sit on the beach in Dutch.That said, he is a despicable person.
Scott taking care of his dog ❤❤❤
Unfortunatly this is a Dutch person but not one we're proud of. His name is pronounced like Yoran van there Slowed. I've seen lot's of footage at the time of this and also what the undercover journalist who went on a car trip with him got out of him. I don't think at that time he was a cold hearted killer. However he does know how she died and did try to hide the evidence of what happened. Think most likely scenario is that both of them used drugs and/or alcohol and something bad happened to her because of this (overdoses or an accident due to irrational and dangerous behaviour). Think after this happened he got help from probably his father who happened to be a laywer, to get rid of her body / shoes (using a boat dumping them in the ocean). And knowing what to do next (go to school the next day) and what to say and not to say to agents and in court. So don't think at that time he was a cold killer but he is hiding the truth of what happened.
Thanks for the pronunciation! I've heard this name said 10 different ways and it turns out they're all wrong 😂. Pet peeve of mine to watch or read something and not know how to pronounce it in my mind.
This guy has also told so many different versions of the story. I almost forgot that car ride with the journalist.
And then to extort money from her mother to lead her to the body. What a piece of work!
Great topic, thanks for the camaraderie!
Scott - you are so right - no decent person would leave a female on her own on the beach. There is def much more to the story than this guy is telling - and I am feeling all sorts of alarm bells going off listening to and watching him !!
Mark and Hattie, that was epic 😂😂
I wish you could see this guys original confession. It was with an undercover agent who was trying to pretend to be best friends with him for many months. He confessed in the car with this undercover agent and the car was fully wired with microphones and cameras. They speak dutch in this video so it its a shame you guys wont be able to analyze it properly
I remember seeing that video, I was like “about time!” But unfortunately his claims have been debunked. Some things he had said didn’t fit. He’s confessed to multiple outcomes to the point where everyone knows he did it, but have accepted they will never know how.
We all know this jerk killed this girl, probably strangled her on the beach when she resisted him. That he killed another woman a few years later is infuriating.
I just started watching but oh my gosh, Scott, your puppy is ADORABLE!!
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Dude Scott kills me. It’s so me in every conversation. And then I try to make it faster cause no one wants to hear it and then it makes me more stoked and I can’t stop the word roller coaster 😅🎉
I have to say this in the moment because it gave me a good laugh. When Scott Rouse talks about the eyebrow thing, I had a flash of the various scenes between couples that could/will potentially unfold as a result of that being said. 😅
I hope the panel members remain accessible as their success grows. That's part of the charm. Try not to separate yourselves too much from your audience.
well said!
I'm watching this now that Van Der Sloot has confessed...y'all see it clearly. Love you guys!
This young man gives me the intense creeps in both videos.
Scott, Your description of walking the "Tightrope" and maintaining your balance is great.
The little dog on Scott's lap.. 😂.. First I thought he wears a shirt with a dog but then I saw it moves.. So cute!
I wish we could watch you guys interrogating someone! Wouldn't that be awesome!?
Especially if all 4 of them were there together. There is video of Greg interrogating people. It's fun.
can you link it? I'd love to watch it!
@@KissimeeFL If I leave a link, UA-cam will automatically delete it. But if you search for these two titles, in youtube, you'll find them.
1.) WE CAN MAKE YOU TALK
2.) THE GITMO DIARIES
In both of these, Greg has agreed to take part in a realistic experiment with volunteers. It recreates the way POW's were interrogated. The volunteers can stop and leave if it gets to be too much. If you find out hard to recognize Greg, he looks the same but has red hair, cut very short. Let me know if you can't find the videos.
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/cG_ZN-v6oVc/v-deo.html
@@TheBehaviorPanel I love how TBP responds to comments
As soon as he said she wanted to see sharks at night, it made me think he killed her. And when he said the cockamamee story about her mother being Hitlers sister, only confirmed it. He also blinked too much.
i feel like he was trying to make her look silly/stupid with that remark about the sharks. kind of mocking.
Chase, you make my heart skip a beat with your velvet voice, your analytical skills, your sincere eyes and your adorable smile.❤️😘
Girl, same. I swoon.
He's married!
@@SchlichteToven It figures…but a girl can dream☺️🥰
@@roberta_redactedF ❤️❤️❤️
Delilah, you are a bad, bad girl like your namesake! 😂
It doesnt make sense when he states that he asked her to have sex but didnt end up having sex because he had no condom, he never stated that he looked for one and realized he didnt have one, wouldn't he have known whether he had one or not from the very beginning? Sounds very fishy to me.....perhaps he wanted to engage in sex and she refused and he got forceful. Stating he would never have sex without a condom sounds like a cover for the true act that took place.
Yeah I don't believe him a bit. I think he went out of his way to avoid using condoms. That seems more accurate to me. I think she did refuse to have sex though ,so he, and probably his friends too, attacked her. Then they did not want to leave her alive because she could report them. So they decided to murder her, and bring her out into the ocean to leave her there.