Who is concerned about getting their kids to school following the death/murder of their parent? I love how she makes as if her choices were influenced by her desire to parent properly.
Every time Scott gets excited you can see Mark try very hard not to smile and it’s THE BEST 🤣😂🤣 It’s even better when Chase can’t help it🤣 I have been watching way to long when I am attempting to analyze TBP.
She is not traumatized at all . Normal people would be traumatized with this . There is no sadness ,no shock , no emotion . What person takes kids to school after a shooting.
Fun fact: the ex-husband was in town to work with the brother to have an intervention regarding her “cult behavior” and ideas. So that was the text messages (according to the brother Adam that she doesn’t talk to as shown on the Netflix series) Love you guys! Nailed it! 💜
@verna Reed Exactly! And, after shooting him, they had a pool party 😢 Some time later, she ordered her own and new guys wedding rings and dresses from Amazon USING THE DEAD HUSBANDS ACCOUNT. She is vile!
I'm always so impressed by how these four experts genuinely appear to be learning from each other with each episode. A great lesson for everybody in life.... we should all be always learning and never complacent that even as an expert in something, we already know everything we need to know
Charles was not only “all about JJ and not about Tylee.” He bought Tylee her jeep and when he called the police asking for help (and was dismissed) he said, “My kids are missing” (plural). Tylee also went and lived with Charles in Texas.
If my ex husband was shot and killed in my house, I’d be absolutely devastated, and we’ve been divorced for 12 years. Charles was still her husband! What a psycho.
Exactly, as Mark stated, when she explains what went on she is non-reactive, and gravity is “getting the best of her”. In the movie Rocky, Adrian goes directly up to the passion plane when Rocky knocks Apollo Creed out and both boxers land on the floor. It’s one of the best reaction scenes in my opinion, and I think it explains the passion plane really well, as most people have seen that scene in a movie. Lori did none of this. Her hands should have went up towards her neck or face and they just hung there.
What's truly haunting about this event and her testimony here: she sent Tylee, her daughter, the child she claims she was trying to protect from seeing anything, back into the apartment after Charles was shot. She sent Tylee in to grab her purse or wallet. Tylee talks about it in her interview. Lori, I believe, is a psychopath.
Stealing his phone, leaving a crime seen, nothing adding up and no arrest made until it was too late. The police really dropped the ball in this case.😢
I disagree. Every big case people always say police dropped the ball. When you watch a show on UA-cam and get all the facts, it might seem obvious. But when these things are happening in real time, and they are happening in different jurisdictions, and at different time frames, you can’t blame the police for that they’re not psychic.
The fact the police let them get away with Charles death in the beginning is outrageous to me. She’s trying to say he threatened her but the worst thing she could come up with was “you’re going down. Blah blah blah blah”
It was infuriating to hear this crazy, inconsistent, and ridiculous story from her and her brother, and the police let them go , even though the police had been told by her husband earlier that she was threatening him. It was outrageous. How is blah, blah, blah an acceptable answer?
@@danieldougan269 hopefully this second go around will prove differently. It’s unfortunate that this one went the way it did, had she have been locked up for this death several people including JJ & Tylee would still be alive.
It just seems like really lazy policing, like they were more than happy to take any explanation. Absolutely tragic that their incompetence led to three further deaths. You’d hope there would be some internal investigation… but not sure how likely that is.
She was elated in that interview. She thought she had just won the million dollar life insurance policy that Charles thankfully transfered to his sister.
@Leena Wexler hence why I said TWO out of FOUR husbands are dead. The fifth is rotting is prison waiting for his trial. She technically wasn’t divorced from Charles when he was killed but summing up the specifics for you in 150 characters or less was a tad difficult. My apologies.
I'm a stress sleeper. When my Dad was dying, I made it home from the hospital visit. My Mom wanted to talk and talk. I had to excuse myself and go to bed. It was exhausting; I almost threw up. So, just because someone sleeps, it doesn't always mean they are guilty. They just are in a place where they don't have to be on and can decompress.
I understand where you’re coming from with your father. However, this situation is completely different. No similarities to that. But I promise, I understand where you’re coming from.
At 1:39 ....Chase blew my mind when he described how Lori's demeanor changed. It brought back instant memories of people who have acted superior to me! I have been learning so much watching your channel that helps me navigate life better, safer.
She had the same complaints about her third husband that she had about her fourth. Both are dead and her creepy brother Alex caused problems. She is laughing and smirking during her trial in the death of her children and her fifth husband’s wife. She is a piece of work that needs to be locked away forever.
When she said "why would I get a divorce...so I can babysit the kids more? Babysit as in she wasn't into them much anymore, tired of looking after her kids. Her tone as she expressed it also matches her statement. Tired of being a mom.
Uuuuuugh! I hate having to wait!!!! Btw - I was interviewed (and got an offer of employment) for a local PD as 911 dispatcher yesterday. When the chief asked why I wanted the job, I told him about the Behavior Panel sparking my interest in interrogation, investigation and body language!!!
I cannot wait to hear from you guys on the Leticia Stouch trial and her body language. Oh my gosh her body language and her words and how she literally goes through and claims she has injuries and points to them on her body when talking about her supposed attack and they all line up with Gannon's fatal injuries and non-fatal. She even points to her body when explaining his burns but accidentally points to where all his stab wounds are
Chase you were so insightful this video! I really love how you saw Lori power up when the investigator showed some signs of being uncomfortable. It's a huge red flag when someone power ups when another person demonstrates vulnerability. True sign of narcissism.
One thing that was creepy was when the police officer was talking to her in the street when she got back from the school drop off. The officer says something and she begins to giggle in a flirty way and said sorry neighbors!All I could think was, “Your husband had been dead maybe half an hour and this is your reaction? “ It was way off!
One of the oddest behaviors was when the accused couple was in Hawaii, her children were dead but no one knew that yet. She had that bizarre smile while the cameras were on her (she was loving that). The minute I saw that weird ass smile, I knew she was involved and I also knew that attention was her candy-she loves it. Sick psycho.
So weird. She was giggling right after her ex is murdered, giggling right in front of the investigator… I’m having a chill that a serial killer has been unfolded yet no one noticed
The cops who dealt with Chad's wife's death need to be hauled over the coals for just taking his word for her health status and not ordering an autopsy. If not for that, those kids and her brother (not that he was worth much) might not be dead.
I requested this one YEARS ago!!! I’m glad y’all are finally getting around to it. She’s having trial right now in the county I live in. She requested there to be no cameras in the court room back in September and the judge granted it!!! I wondered if you guys would do it knowing there won’t be any new footage other than what we’ve all seen years ago. The day the main detective who discovered the kids’ bodies was going to testify and show all the evidence/pictures of the remains, she requested to take that day off… like she didn’t care that the whole jury would have to sit there and look at consequences of her actions but she shouldn’t?! Thankfully the judge didn’t grant that to her but she ended up just looking down that whole day. All the other days of trial she’s been really chatty and smiling taking lots of notes with her lawyers. I think our whole valley is ready for her toxic presence to be gone. I think she REVELS in all this attention. I think she must be a straight up psychopath.
I'm an ESL teacher. I believe Scott is right. It was intentional for the interrogator to act self-conscious. She noticed that correcting her English provoked a negative response. I do this all the time when students feel intimidated because I'm over-correcting.
As a teacher, I am horrified that someone would send children to school after their father has been shot. Does she expect them to now sit and focus on class work? Does she think teachers can teach a class and attend to severely traumatized children at the same time?
Lori’s excuse is that because JJ is on the autism spectrum, she needs to keep his environment the same and not disrupt him. That’s why she says she needed to take him to school
And then she plannned the chikdrens death and send that children to their death at the hands of that evill man....she should look at those autopsy pictures of the children for the rest of he life.....they should be on the walls of her cell in front of her eyes...as well as the previous husband's and Tammy's....
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When she talked about making sure the kids were in the car while Charles was being killed and said "I wanted the kids out of the way", it sent shivers down my spine knowing what she would eventually do.
If you think her interview was strange , watch the video from the police camara. She stands there laughing about the whole thing. She took JJ to burger king for breakfast , then to school, then stopped to buy flipflops and then home to find police at her house. This woman is beyond wacked.
It's so sad that law enforcement didn't arrest Alex for murdering Charles. Maybe Tylee, JJ and Tammy would still be alive if they would have been held accountable. Thank you guys as I appreciate your combined panel and all your experience and expert opinions.
Her taking Charles' phone was probably done for the purpose of angering him to help set up the scenario for Alex to claim self defense when he shot Chatkes.
The reason Lori is so glib is that she believes at this point she is the beneficiary to Charles’ $1 million life insurance policy. Unbeknownst to her Charles had removed her and added his sister Kay. I believe that was the catalyst to the kids murd
I found my ex, who remained one of my best friends after we broke up, dead from an accidental overdose. My initial reaction was to run to him and touch him, even though he was very visibly and graphically dead. I than ran out of the room in fear and proceeded to fall to the ground because I literally lost control of my body, all the while screaming in agony. This woman was married to this man for 14 years….she was not ‘in shock’ according to her account.
1.40 hr… Chase says ‘Lori thinks she is just going to go home soon and have some dinner’….um… she did, a pool party in fact, and then she went on to be ‘involved’ in 3 more murders.
At around 53:03, When Lori Vallow says, "I wanted the kids out of the way whatever this fight was going to be." WTH! - She actually said, "whatever this fight is going to be"?!?!? That weird sentence told me that this incident was definitely a "set up" fight so her brother could kill him in so called "self defense" for her.
It's wild how she thinks it's so normal and so certain that she is entitled to take her estranged husband's phone that she talks about it so freely like she's completely in the right. In her view, it's totally reasonable for her to take his property and not respect privacy boundaries, but it's so unreasonable for him to react.
She leans in hard saying how she thought he' hurt her to get his phone back... Okay, so give the phone back and the threat of being hurt disappears. Don't keep running around like you're completely entitled to his property and wonder why he's getting more upset.
@@inannanightingale9718 I was also astonished at what a childish act it was in the first place.. I think she must have somehow stole it from his person, because he left and was putting JJ in the car and had to come back in to get his phone, so maybe he was unaware it was not with him.. & it was like a children’s game to her, playing “keep away” with his phone.. very immature and literally psycho.. IMO
I can’t understand why the interrogator didn’t ask her why she just didn’t give his phone back since they’re separated anyway like what difference does it make who he’s texting if you’re getting divorced.
@@zerowheeler right. And literally one minute after I commented about that,the experts spoke about it but yea makes total sense to just take his life smh lol
WHO would be concerned about getting their child to school when that child's father was just killed??? She also, supposedly, fell asleep during trial when they showed images and talked about recovering JJ and Tylee's bodies.
The Panel at their best. My goodness the things they observed… A great example of their expertise. And the thing is they are holding back LOADS! Unreal, love it. I think this is one to be watched over and over. Thank you.
Maybe it's because I'm a woman myself and don't understand the mindset, but there is something about female sociopaths/psychopaths I find particularly disturbing. I would be beside myself if I was in that situation and she just basically sits there... Scary.
This grown woman says "whatever," "like" and "blablabla" more than my kids! It's so utterly maddening. I can't even imagine how any adult could have a conversation with her without wanting to rip their own hair out! I agree 100% that she's almost certainly gotten through life by being a ditzy, baby-talking blonde who manipulates men. (And I remember that "I'm a blonde" song, too!! Guess I'm showing my age, haha?) But seriously, I'm a divorced mom, and I can guarantee that if my ex were to be killed, I'd nonetheless be in deep shock...not giggling and smiling. Heck- even if a total stranger was killed in the same house as me, I'd be shocky and shaking; it's just a basic human reaction to experiencing unexpected death and/or violence! But she's about as empathetic as a rattlesnake!
@@harrietthespy2119 True! Even rattlesnakes only kill either to eat or to defend themselves! Lori, OTOH, kills for greed and possibly even because she gets pleasure out of it. So yeah, you're right- she's much worse than a rattlesnake!
A teenager could never get away with being vague to Mark Bowden! What did you do last night? Teen: “Oh, we went riding around & things.” Mark: I’d like to know about these “THINGS” you did.😃
"OMG! Who's gonna clean this mess up?!?!?!???" Blood everywhere, looking at what's before her, one would think she'd be wondering about the blood, the body--the POLICE, HER BROTHER??? It's as if she hadn't been there??? This was HER house, HER kids, HER brother , HER LIFE!!! SO detached, so weird... SO very, very weird...
So a giant “monster of a man” is getting murderously aggressive with you ONLY because you have his phone and you’re literally (at least claiming) you were afraid for your life, that he was ready to attack you, and you STILL wouldn’t simply give him his phone back? She just didn’t think this through and I really wish the detective had asked “did you ever consider just giving him the phone back so this all would’ve stopped?”.. just would like to see her reaction to that question
The facility that's housing Chad says his crimes involve his "stepchildren". As far as I can see Chad never had "stepchildren" because the kids were dead before Chad and Lori were married.
Lori Vallow was my hairstylist for a while in Austin. She would tell me about all the fancy trips her then husband would take her on. One day I showed up for my appointment and they just said she was gone and not coming back. It took me a while to realize it was her once she became infamous because it was like 20+ yrs ago. I kept thinking she seemed familiar then a documentary mentioned that she was a hair stylist in Austin and it clicked. Yikes. Edit to add: The second thing that clicked was Lori spelled in that particular way. Also, she was very pretty back then and I remember having the sense that she was used to getting what she wanted from men because of it. She spoke of her husband having a lot of money and I think she even said he bought her plastic surgery (boobs).
I caught that too Scott when the interrogator corrects her about the gun (proficient) & she gets kinda pissed that she corrected Lori. Loved to see that one!
Throughout the interview, she *not* once called Charles by his name. It was "my ex", "he", "his", "him" but never by his name ~Charles. No matter how much someone dislikes another person, in a situation such as a death, I believe everyone feels some sort of sympathy for the deceased (unless he/she is a total monster that has done the worst of the worst). Here, Lori has no sense of empathy which if I'm not mistaken is another trade for a psychopath. She is dead inside.
When she's asked whether she would like some kind of victim services, she looks impatient and bored. She doesn't feel like a victim because she isn't and now that the interview is over she doesn't have to pretend to be.
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As most narcissistic people, she's frozen in a perpetual child-like state. Very manipulative person. Those poor kids and other victims. Great breakdown and analysis, as usual! Thx!
Here's a little background on Charles Vallow... he's a former semi-professional baseball player. As someone else observed, he could kill someone with that baseball bat, and he didn't? That means Charles Vallow NEVER had that bat in his hands. It was their excuse for the shooting of him.
She's the most frightening person I've ever observed. There's a phone call in prison she got from her adult son who just LAYS into her, calls her a murderer etc and at one point she starts giggling and God bless him he yells " You think this is funny?!" I'm not religious and don't believe in Satan or demons but this woman is the closest thing to Satan that exists...
I think the reason she had to add in there that Charles was actually a semiprofessional ball player after she boasted about his proball playing is to explain why Alex’s injury from the bat was minor. However even being semipro, if he actually hit Alex in the head he’d have crushed his skull.
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I'd love to see you do the body language of the sadist police officer deposition. Sgt vs Bish on The Civil Rights Lawyer channel.
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Will you analyze the sadist police officer deposition Sgt vs Bish on the Civil Rights Lawyer channel? It was fascinating!
Thank u guys for analyzing these videos of Lori! I've always been curious about what she's actually thinking..
Who is concerned about getting their kids to school following the death/murder of their parent? I love how she makes as if her choices were influenced by her desire to parent properly.
The fact she finds ANY part of this amusing or humerus tells me everything I need to know.
Right?!!!
*humorous
I LOVE when Scott gets given a psychopath to analyse, he’s really on fire when it comes to the psychopaths - I love it!
the fact she does not care at all that someone is dead is bone chilling!
Especially her own children 🧒🏼 👧
Every time Scott gets excited you can see Mark try very hard not to smile and it’s THE BEST 🤣😂🤣 It’s even better when Chase can’t help it🤣 I have been watching way to long when I am attempting to analyze TBP.
Ha!🙂
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She is not traumatized at all . Normal people would be traumatized with this . There is no sadness ,no shock , no emotion . What person takes kids to school after a shooting.
A weirdo, that's who.... and she definitely qualifies.
And don't forget the pool party she had the night Charles died😮
She's been deemed mentally unwell 2x already. She's 100% off her rocker.
Yeah. It's called a psychopath
This case is currently in trial.
Fun fact: the ex-husband was in town to work with the brother to have an intervention regarding her “cult behavior” and ideas. So that was the text messages (according to the brother Adam that she doesn’t talk to as shown on the Netflix series) Love you guys! Nailed it! 💜
Tattooed Barbi Charles was not ex-husband, they were still married!! chad was still married to Tammy,so she wasn't his ex either!!
@verna Reed Exactly! And, after shooting him, they had a pool party 😢
Some time later, she ordered her own and new guys wedding rings and dresses from Amazon USING THE DEAD HUSBANDS ACCOUNT. She is vile!
I’m wondering if she ever saw what was on the phone.
@@shalinitahiliani5325 Vile. But thrifty!
I'm always so impressed by how these four experts genuinely appear to be learning from each other with each episode. A great lesson for everybody in life.... we should all be always learning and never complacent that even as an expert in something, we already know everything we need to know
Charles was not only “all about JJ and not about Tylee.” He bought Tylee her jeep and when he called the police asking for help (and was dismissed) he said, “My kids are missing” (plural). Tylee also went and lived with Charles in Texas.
If my ex husband was shot and killed in my house, I’d be absolutely devastated, and we’ve been divorced for 12 years. Charles was still her husband! What a psycho.
Exactly... she should be shaken in some manner even though she apparently hated him and had no feelings for him...not saying, "hi neighbor, sorry"
Exactly, as Mark stated, when she explains what went on she is non-reactive, and gravity is “getting the best of her”. In the movie Rocky, Adrian goes directly up to the passion plane when Rocky knocks Apollo Creed out and both boxers land on the floor. It’s one of the best reaction scenes in my opinion, and I think it explains the passion plane really well, as most people have seen that scene in a movie. Lori did none of this. Her hands should have went up towards her neck or face and they just hung there.
What's truly haunting about this event and her testimony here: she sent Tylee, her daughter, the child she claims she was trying to protect from seeing anything, back into the apartment after Charles was shot. She sent Tylee in to grab her purse or wallet. Tylee talks about it in her interview. Lori, I believe, is a psychopath.
Wow
I don’t think her husband (that she had killed) abused anybody. She’s not traumatized. She’s a liar and a psycho.
See my comment above when I talked to the detective who investigated Charles character.
Totally agree i think she took real scenario and traumatized them to make the soon to be ex husband an abuser
Agree
Obviously. All of her victims were innocent of wrong doing. That's why she was arrested and is on trial...
Neither do I !.
Stealing his phone, leaving a crime seen, nothing adding up and no arrest made until it was too late. The police really dropped the ball in this case.😢
I disagree. Every big case people always say police dropped the ball. When you watch a show on UA-cam and get all the facts, it might seem obvious. But when these things are happening in real time, and they are happening in different jurisdictions, and at different time frames, you can’t blame the police for that they’re not psychic.
They believed her acting
The fact the police let them get away with Charles death in the beginning is outrageous to me. She’s trying to say he threatened her but the worst thing she could come up with was “you’re going down. Blah blah blah blah”
It was infuriating to hear this crazy, inconsistent, and ridiculous story from her and her brother, and the police let them go , even though the police had been told by her husband earlier that she was threatening him. It was outrageous. How is blah, blah, blah an acceptable answer?
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. They probably knew she did it, but the case wasn't strong enough.
The justice system all over the world is criminal
@@danieldougan269 hopefully this second go around will prove differently. It’s unfortunate that this one went the way it did, had she have been locked up for this death several people including JJ & Tylee would still be alive.
It just seems like really lazy policing, like they were more than happy to take any explanation. Absolutely tragic that their incompetence led to three further deaths. You’d hope there would be some internal investigation… but not sure how likely that is.
She was elated in that interview. She thought she had just won the million dollar life insurance policy that Charles thankfully transfered to his sister.
This case is the definition of insanity. 2/4 ex husbands - dead; 2 kids - dead; brother and sister - dead; current husband’s wife - dead. WTF
@Leena Wexler hence why I said TWO out of FOUR husbands are dead. The fifth is rotting is prison waiting for his trial. She technically wasn’t divorced from Charles when he was killed but summing up the specifics for you in 150 characters or less was a tad difficult. My apologies.
@@artfuldodger96 lol Thank you. I will endeavor to do better. 😂
I'm a stress sleeper. When my Dad was dying, I made it home from the hospital visit. My Mom wanted to talk and talk. I had to excuse myself and go to bed. It was exhausting; I almost threw up. So, just because someone sleeps, it doesn't always mean they are guilty. They just are in a place where they don't have to be on and can decompress.
I understand where you’re coming from with your father. However, this situation is completely different. No similarities to that. But I promise, I understand where you’re coming from.
At 1:39 ....Chase blew my mind when he described how Lori's demeanor changed. It brought back instant memories of people who have acted superior to me! I have been learning so much watching your channel that helps me navigate life better, safer.
She had the same complaints about her third husband that she had about her fourth. Both are dead and her creepy brother Alex caused problems. She is laughing and smirking during her trial in the death of her children and her fifth husband’s wife. She is a piece of work that needs to be locked away forever.
How many deaths has this lady been around??
Fifth husband?! Jeez…
The craziest thing - if they prosecuted her and her brother on this murder, she wouldn’t have been able to kill her kids. The police sloppy work
As a teacher, I’d prefer you didn’t rush your kids to school right after their father has been shot in the morning! 😳
🫣.... right
When she said "why would I get a divorce...so I can babysit the kids more? Babysit as in she wasn't into them much anymore, tired of looking after her kids. Her tone as she expressed it also matches her statement. Tired of being a mom.
Exactly! BTW I object to her term "babysitting"😑... it's called "parenting"
Yeah ouch.
Right?? Yikes on multiple bikes.
Uuuuuugh! I hate having to wait!!!! Btw - I was interviewed (and got an offer of employment) for a local PD as 911 dispatcher yesterday. When the chief asked why I wanted the job, I told him about the Behavior Panel sparking my interest in interrogation, investigation and body language!!!
I used to do that job in the UK and I learnt to tell when people were lying just by the tone of their voice. It's why I love this channel so much.
Listening to her is like listening to my 10 yr old daughter relay a story when she's excited....all over the place!!! LOL
People keep referring to Tammy as Chad's ex wife, but they never divorced. He killed Tammy his wife.
I cannot wait to hear from you guys on the Leticia Stouch trial and her body language. Oh my gosh her body language and her words and how she literally goes through and claims she has injuries and points to them on her body when talking about her supposed attack and they all line up with Gannon's fatal injuries and non-fatal. She even points to her body when explaining his burns but accidentally points to where all his stab wounds are
That's too horrific to watch. I just pray she's convicted.
Chase you were so insightful this video! I really love how you saw Lori power up when the investigator showed some signs of being uncomfortable. It's a huge red flag when someone power ups when another person demonstrates vulnerability. True sign of narcissism.
Ooh, I got shivers reading that. Great call. Yikes, I've been getting these spooks out of my life!
One thing that was creepy was when the police officer was talking to her in the street when she got back from the school drop off. The officer says something and she begins to giggle in a flirty way and said sorry neighbors!All I could think was, “Your husband had been dead maybe half an hour and this is your reaction? “ It was way off!
Chase is so great at this. No cheap shot comments, he understands his audience is full of “everyone”. Thank you for being a class act, Chase!
One of the oddest behaviors was when the accused couple was in Hawaii, her children were dead but no one knew that yet. She had that bizarre smile while the cameras were on her (she was loving that). The minute I saw that weird ass smile, I knew she was involved and I also knew that attention was her candy-she loves it. Sick psycho.
I never realised how inarticulate and unintelligent she is. How did so many people fall for her BS?
They never asked her why she didn’t give the phone back? This police department!! 😳
this has been said a million times, but Gilbert/Chandler PD totallly sh!t the bed.
So weird. She was giggling right after her ex is murdered, giggling right in front of the investigator… I’m having a chill that a serial killer has been unfolded yet no one noticed
The cops who dealt with Chad's wife's death need to be hauled over the coals for just taking his word for her health status and not ordering an autopsy. If not for that, those kids and her brother (not that he was worth much) might not be dead.
Scott gets SO excited talking about psychopaths!
I requested this one YEARS ago!!! I’m glad y’all are finally getting around to it. She’s having trial right now in the county I live in. She requested there to be no cameras in the court room back in September and the judge granted it!!! I wondered if you guys would do it knowing there won’t be any new footage other than what we’ve all seen years ago. The day the main detective who discovered the kids’ bodies was going to testify and show all the evidence/pictures of the remains, she requested to take that day off… like she didn’t care that the whole jury would have to sit there and look at consequences of her actions but she shouldn’t?! Thankfully the judge didn’t grant that to her but she ended up just looking down that whole day. All the other days of trial she’s been really chatty and smiling taking lots of notes with her lawyers. I think our whole valley is ready for her toxic presence to be gone. I think she REVELS in all this attention. I think she must be a straight up psychopath.
I'm an ESL teacher. I believe Scott is right. It was intentional for the interrogator to act self-conscious. She noticed that correcting her English provoked a negative response. I do this all the time when students feel intimidated because I'm over-correcting.
As a teacher, I am horrified that someone would send children to school after their father has been shot. Does she expect them to now sit and focus on class work? Does she think teachers can teach a class and attend to severely traumatized children at the same time?
I didn't know that. That's insane, well bc she is I guess. Can't relate to normal emotional humans
Lori’s excuse is that because JJ is on the autism spectrum, she needs to keep his environment the same and not disrupt him. That’s why she says she needed to take him to school
JJ never knew that his father was dead. She never told him, even after they moved to Idaho.
And then she plannned the chikdrens death and send that children to their death at the hands of that evill man....she should look at those autopsy pictures of the children for the rest of he life.....they should be on the walls of her cell in front of her eyes...as well as the previous husband's and Tammy's....
I love observing Chase's face every time Mark speaks. And I'll leave it there.
I see what you did there. 😅
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When she talked about making sure the kids were in the car while Charles was being killed and said "I wanted the kids out of the way", it sent shivers down my spine knowing what she would eventually do.
When did she say that?
@@twincherry4958 As I said, When she talked about making sure the kids were in the car while Charles was being killed. It's located at 53:00.
THIS WAS TOO SHORT. I loved this one. Lots of good info. You guys rock.
If you think her interview was strange , watch the video from the police camara. She stands there laughing about the whole thing. She took JJ to burger king for breakfast , then to school, then stopped to buy flipflops and then home to find police at her house. This woman is beyond wacked.
& they had a party later,that very day.unbelievable & wicked.
And not only did Lori leave this interview without being detained, she actually left with a victim’s advocate
Yes, and threw a pool party that same afternoon. Amazing!
Its horrifying how many perpetrators manage to convince people they are victims. :(
It's so sad that law enforcement didn't arrest Alex for murdering Charles. Maybe Tylee, JJ and Tammy would still be alive if they would have been held accountable. Thank you guys as I appreciate your combined panel and all your experience and expert opinions.
My niece just turned 14 & this woman speaks like her.
She's horrible
I would have asked her why she didn’t give Charles the phone back if they were all so scared of what he’d do.
Plus why did she care if he was dating, she wanted a divorce
Her taking Charles' phone was probably done for the purpose of angering him to help set up the scenario for Alex to claim self defense when he shot Chatkes.
Bingo! I thought the same thing.
The reason Lori is so glib is that she believes at this point she is the beneficiary to Charles’ $1 million life insurance policy. Unbeknownst to her Charles had removed her and added his sister Kay. I believe that was the catalyst to the kids murd
I found my ex, who remained one of my best friends after we broke up, dead from an accidental overdose. My initial reaction was to run to him and touch him, even though he was very visibly and graphically dead. I than ran out of the room in fear and proceeded to fall to the ground because I literally lost control of my body, all the while screaming in agony. This woman was married to this man for 14 years….she was not ‘in shock’ according to her account.
I'm sorry for your loss
I was a journalist for 30 years. At the end of every interview, I always asked that question. And they always gave me gold.
1.40 hr… Chase says ‘Lori thinks she is just going to go home soon and have some dinner’….um… she did, a pool party in fact, and then she went on to be ‘involved’ in 3 more murders.
Mark, you were correct too about the brother!! He had murdered for her before!!
At around 53:03, When Lori Vallow says, "I wanted the kids out of the way whatever this fight was going to be." WTH! - She actually said, "whatever this fight is going to be"?!?!? That weird sentence told me that this incident was definitely a "set up" fight so her brother could kill him in so called "self defense" for her.
Greg's reference to Julie Brown's "'Cause I'm A Blonde" made my day!
Chase: "I think she thinks she's gonna go home after this." Incredibly, she did go home and have a pool party!
Thanks!
It's wild how she thinks it's so normal and so certain that she is entitled to take her estranged husband's phone that she talks about it so freely like she's completely in the right. In her view, it's totally reasonable for her to take his property and not respect privacy boundaries, but it's so unreasonable for him to react.
She leans in hard saying how she thought he' hurt her to get his phone back... Okay, so give the phone back and the threat of being hurt disappears. Don't keep running around like you're completely entitled to his property and wonder why he's getting more upset.
@@inannanightingale9718 it was definately all a set up,to bring about an excuse to shoot him dead.evil.
@@inannanightingale9718 I was also astonished at what a childish act it was in the first place.. I think she must have somehow stole it from his person, because he left and was putting JJ in the car and had to come back in to get his phone, so maybe he was unaware it was not with him.. & it was like a children’s game to her, playing “keep away” with his phone.. very immature and literally psycho.. IMO
I can’t understand why the interrogator didn’t ask her why she just didn’t give his phone back since they’re separated anyway like what difference does it make who he’s texting if you’re getting divorced.
Taking his phone is bizarre behaviour, giving it back would have been a simple solution, but why not shoot him!? 🤷🏼♀️
@@zerowheeler right. And literally one minute after I commented about that,the experts spoke about it but yea makes total sense to just take his life smh lol
This woman is despicable and now a convicted murderer. Shameless.
Omg! I’m so glad y’all finally did a video on her. I think I asked y’all to do it 2 years ago when she was arrested! Great one y’all!
Charles wouldn’t have put his phone down in her house, not even for a second. Straight up ambushed, plain and simple.😢
WHO would be concerned about getting their child to school when that child's father was just killed??? She also, supposedly, fell asleep during trial when they showed images and talked about recovering JJ and Tylee's bodies.
I wish the interviewer had asked Lori, "When you saw how angry Charles was getting, why didn't you just give him his darned phone?"
Exactly. I would've immediately thought that she was setting the scene to kill him. She was clearly instigating.
The Panel at their best. My goodness the things they observed… A great example of their expertise. And the thing is they are holding back LOADS! Unreal, love it. I think this is one to be watched over and over. Thank you.
Maybe it's because I'm a woman myself and don't understand the mindset, but there is something about female sociopaths/psychopaths I find particularly disturbing. I would be beside myself if I was in that situation and she just basically sits there... Scary.
💯 agree!
Doomsday, Moms.... Sounds like a band.
…agreed
can’t stop laughing
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It does Lol! Though Sadly😞I wish it was though ya? Ugh 🤢
A punk band for sure.
This grown woman says "whatever," "like" and "blablabla" more than my kids! It's so utterly maddening. I can't even imagine how any adult could have a conversation with her without wanting to rip their own hair out!
I agree 100% that she's almost certainly gotten through life by being a ditzy, baby-talking blonde who manipulates men. (And I remember that "I'm a blonde" song, too!! Guess I'm showing my age, haha?) But seriously, I'm a divorced mom, and I can guarantee that if my ex were to be killed, I'd nonetheless be in deep shock...not giggling and smiling. Heck- even if a total stranger was killed in the same house as me, I'd be shocky and shaking; it's just a basic human reaction to experiencing unexpected death and/or violence! But she's about as empathetic as a rattlesnake!
I agree wholeheartedly! But please don’t insult rattlesnakes! 🤔🐍
@@harrietthespy2119 True! Even rattlesnakes only kill either to eat or to defend themselves!
Lori, OTOH, kills for greed and possibly even because she gets pleasure out of it. So yeah, you're right- she's much worse than a rattlesnake!
"I don't have to work, I just have to jiggle 'cuz I'm a blonde!" right?
I’ve been watching a lot of these over the past few months, and this episode l is one of my favorites. There is SO much here.
A teenager could never get away with being vague to Mark Bowden! What did you do last night? Teen: “Oh, we went riding around & things.” Mark: I’d like to know about these “THINGS” you did.😃
…..”and can you show me where on Google maps.”😂
😂love Mark
"OMG! Who's gonna clean this mess up?!?!?!???" Blood everywhere, looking at what's before her, one would think she'd be wondering about the blood, the body--the POLICE, HER BROTHER??? It's as if she hadn't been there??? This was HER house, HER kids, HER brother , HER LIFE!!! SO detached, so weird... SO very, very weird...
So a giant “monster of a man” is getting murderously aggressive with you ONLY because you have his phone and you’re literally (at least claiming) you were afraid for your life, that he was ready to attack you, and you STILL wouldn’t simply give him his phone back? She just didn’t think this through and I really wish the detective had asked “did you ever consider just giving him the phone back so this all would’ve stopped?”.. just would like to see her reaction to that question
Absolutely! Taking someone’s phone is dangerous business!
Taking their phone is about as bad as taking their weapon..
The facility that's housing Chad says his crimes involve his "stepchildren". As far as I can see Chad never had "stepchildren" because the kids were dead before Chad and Lori were married.
How can they not ask her WHY she did not give him HIS phone.
Lori Vallow was my hairstylist for a while in Austin. She would tell me about all the fancy trips her then husband would take her on. One day I showed up for my appointment and they just said she was gone and not coming back. It took me a while to realize it was her once she became infamous because it was like 20+ yrs ago. I kept thinking she seemed familiar then a documentary mentioned that she was a hair stylist in Austin and it clicked. Yikes.
Edit to add: The second thing that clicked was Lori spelled in that particular way. Also, she was very pretty back then and I remember having the sense that she was used to getting what she wanted from men because of it. She spoke of her husband having a lot of money and I think she even said he bought her plastic surgery (boobs).
I’ve been waiting for you guys to analyze this case! Please do Melanie Gibb or Melanie B who did interviews in this case. You’ll be blown away.
I caught that too Scott when the interrogator corrects her about the gun (proficient) & she gets kinda pissed that she corrected Lori. Loved to see that one!
It is just so heartbreaking to see all these lives lost and nobody had a clue for such a long time. Such evil.
Throughout the interview, she *not* once called Charles by his name. It was "my ex", "he", "his", "him" but never by his name ~Charles. No matter how much someone dislikes another person, in a situation such as a death, I believe everyone feels some sort of sympathy for the deceased (unless he/she is a total monster that has done the worst of the worst). Here, Lori has no sense of empathy which if I'm not mistaken is another trade for a psychopath. She is dead inside.
When she's asked whether she would like some kind of victim services, she looks impatient and bored. She doesn't feel like a victim because she isn't and now that the interview is over she doesn't have to pretend to be.
1:40:30 freaking hilarious, Mark!
“For the majority of the interview, her head wasn’t upside down and then it was. That’s a big deal”
She is saying Charles was horrible to Tyler but she burns her body in a pit
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@@TheBehaviorPanelOh trust me, it's my Pleasure. I'm a big fan of you all. Many thanks for doing what you do.
Lori went home after this...and had a pool party at that same house where the shooting occurred. The neighbors reported this and how strange it was.
As most narcissistic people, she's frozen in a perpetual child-like state. Very manipulative person. Those poor kids and other victims. Great breakdown and analysis, as usual! Thx!
She laughed! Otherwise no emotion, nothing. And her husband is dead in her house and she is taking her child to school??? Wow, can you say psychopath?
Scott Rouse talking about psychopaths is my ASMR.
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Here's a little background on Charles Vallow... he's a former semi-professional baseball player. As someone else observed, he could kill someone with that baseball bat, and he didn't? That means Charles Vallow NEVER had that bat in his hands. It was their excuse for the shooting of him.
I'm cracking up because cc says Juicy Smoothie every time Scott says Smolliet's (sp?) name.
She can’t say what threats Charles made, probably because he didn’t threaten her.
Or, the threat was "I'm going to tell the police/social services you're violent and an unfit mother."
How does one laugh when your husband has just passed away, and her brother killed him with a gun.
Right? It’s like she’s just talking about a mishap on the playground.
Almost like she wanted him dead...
She thought she was going to get his insurance payout. Wrong!
She's the most frightening person I've ever observed. There's a phone call in prison she got from her adult son who just LAYS into her, calls her a murderer etc and at one point she starts giggling and God bless him he yells " You think this is funny?!" I'm not religious and don't believe in Satan or demons but this woman is the closest thing to Satan that exists...
I love watching Chases expressions especially when Mark is talking.. He makes him laugh a lot too as well as me he makes me laugh
Tammy Daybell was not Chad Daybells ex-wife. They were still married and living together.
And Charles Vallow was not ex-husband.
Not one tear. Lots of nervous laughter. Valley girl talk.
Zero shock. Your husband is dead on the floor.
Nothing.
And who’s the “zombie?”
It’s crazy that everyone that was there that day is now dead, apart from Lori
Scott, you are correct!!! She was not there or at least not in the house when her brother shot him!!! That came out in the hearing.
I think the reason she had to add in there that Charles was actually a semiprofessional ball player after she boasted about his proball playing is to explain why Alex’s injury from the bat was minor. However even being semipro, if he actually hit Alex in the head he’d have crushed his skull.
The scary thing is this was just filed under self defence. It the other murders didn’t happen, Charles wouldn’t have any justice.
You guys were spot on! She is a psychopath! And guilty!
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