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The USA government betrayd the central somali government in the late 80s and ignored them when they asked for aid and support against Ethiopia soviet supported hosted rebels, Somalia would have been saved if the USA government supported the central somali government in the late 80s,
Fact: A Malaysian director loved the film Black Hawk Down a lot but he saw Malaysia was left out of the film. He made a whole movie about the battle from the Malaysian perspective.
I think the elite VAT69 (sic) malaysian specs ops unit fought there. Edit: I wad mistaken, as pointed out in the comments section, no specs ops, only Condor APC crews.
I always found it funny that in the movie Blackburn slipped because the helicopter was evading fire. I guess they thought it would’ve been too silly of a soldier just missed the rope
The two D-boys that lost their lives trying to defend Super 6-4 were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for going above and beyond the call of duty.
Michael Durant was beaten with the severed arms and legs of these two men who gave their lives trying to save him, leading up to his capture. They were very brave.
I grew up 20 minutes away from Master Sgt Gary Gordon's hometown. The highway route going north of Lincoln is titled "Master Sergeant Gary Gordon Highway" because of this. The Portland MEPS station oath room is called the "Gary Gordon Room". There is also a wonderful statue of him in his honor by the lake in Lincoln Maine. He is honored and renowned as a local legend. My friends and family sometines enjoy lunch under his statue by the lake, always fully acknowledging the shadow we are under. He and his battle buddy's heroic sacrifice were par for the course in that battle. Herosim and bravery on full display from all those men.
I grew up 20 minutes from Gordon's home town. Sometines my friends and family enjoy lunch under the shadow of his statue. Always acknowledging the humbling nature of it.
If US intervened in Rwanda ot would have been much worse and will never stabilize Today Rwanda has one of the best economies in Africa and stable secure life , An American intervention would've turned it into another Haiti
@@baha3alshamari152 we don't know that at all. Having a moral compass means saving lives where we can... It is very convenient for those who want to disengage to say those people over there who are dying in vast numbers are better off without our help... Well, not really. Sure their economy is doing well today but that's like saying that the Black Death worked out for the best in Europe because it then led to a century of raised wages for workers... Not really compensation for the death and trauma.
@@joythought No of course not, as a good Christian I deplore murder and any form of suffering. Looking at this from a geopolitical perspective though is potentially valid as by intervening the US would have created a common enemy for the Hutus and Tutsis to fight against including themselves, also looking at how the US waged war against Afghanistan and Iraq, we can see how broadly respected institutions were torn down and new ones that had no legitimacy in the eyes of the people were created. It goes without saying that such suffering should require and should have required intervention but with the benefit of foresight we can see how US intervention would have had a detrimental affect on Rwanda, can we really say that Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan have greatly benefited from such US intervention? Not meaning to be rude, just want to engage with you intellectually
As Malaysian, the Battle of Mogadishu is pretty big topic in here. Especially the movie that Hollywood made about them. Even tho the Hollywood make an error about that movie, for not mentioning the Malaysia military units in the scenes where their trying rescuing the Americans, but I still proud for what their doing to accomplish the mission, for saving many lives in that battle. My condolences to all soldiers who have fallen in that battle. ✨🪖🕊️
As a Pakistani , I agreed 💯. Both Pakistani and Malaysian peacekeeper have played an important role in this battle. This was also the most deadliest conflict for Pakistani peacekeepers. Salute to all the fallen soldiers in this conflict
Didn't they also make a movie about the Pakistani and Malaysian role in this fight? I remember seeing a preview for it but I don't remember the name. I'd love to watch it and see that side of the story. Edit: it's called "Malbatt: Misi Bakara"
They were very well aware of the risks and the pilots were moving from one location to another. The Black Hawks were being used to provide support. The Black Hawks were also being used to scare away the local populace. Just as the video stated, the Somalis had received training from other groups on how to engage helicopters. They also put timers on the RPGs so they could air burst them. With combination of those two factors, the Somalis were able to effectively engage the Black Hawks
@edwardmoore7352 apparently, there's also statements that the heads in charge had lulled themselves to the belief that doing the exact same actions on every encounter would produce the same results, so no major changes to how a raid was done; meaning that the Somalis just had to time what event was next to get the best "results"
@@dan_38 true. The leadership definitely should have changed tactics. It worthy to point out that Washington was demanding results and previous tactics in the other raids were working. So, why change it now when they had pressure on them? Of course, that doesn’t excuse their leadership from correcting those actions Speaking of leadership, I would honestly argue that it was poor communication and leadership that led to the outcome of the battle. There was too much radio interference during the battle, the officers were out of their elements, and Delta did not get along with the Ranger officers
8:55 Yes! In the book Black Hawk Down, it ws mentioned that the RPG tactics was thought by mujahideen that fought against the Soviets. The same tactics thought by the US to the mujahideens. From what I remember from the book, they dig a hole on the ground to use for backblast while aiming at helos.
I played that game, but as a kid it was kind of hard, so I dont think I ever beat the campaign. Hope the upcoming game remakes the campaign faithfully so I can play it again and give it another go. Otherwise, the game just looks like a trend chasing, live service, extraction shooter slop thats probably going to flop like all the rest, so I wont touch it even if its free.
My dad was a ranger in the US army he left the army about a year before the battle of Mogadishu and lost a few friends during the battle, he never talks about it much but he enjoys documentaries and action movies. He watched black hawk down one night with me and it made him tear up, one of the few times I’ve seen him cry
I've always been into this story because i have a Somali friend who was living in mogadishu when all this went down. I've always liked the movie and the documentaries but talking to him about it is a different level. He said there were over 1500 dead somalis after the conflict was over, but he also said the militias would kill 100 people a day before this happened and it mostly stopped after. He said Bakara market is safe today, i still don't think i;d ever go there.
Well I can tell you one thing now. It still isn't safe. Somalia is more divided than ever. Random killings, corruption and poverty continue to be massive problems for our people.
I remember watching the movie as a kid, I found it strange that a soldier would straight up jump off the helicopter. It's incredible thats something that actually happen
When I visited family in Ethiopia I met a man in my Auntie’s shop who sported an M-16 which he said was captured from the American soldiers during the battle
As a result of this disaster, special forces military operations are often done at night and if it does happen during the day, the special forces will have access to much more air support from Helicopter and C-130 Gunships, and other aircraft regardless of what time of day they carry out their missions
The USA government betrayd the central somali government in the late 80s and ignored them when they asked for aid and support against Ethiopia soviet supported hosted rebels, Somalia would have been saved if the USA government supported the central somali government in the late 80s, before the collapse in 1990,
How ironic after Aidid died his son Hussein Farrah Aidid became the leader of the Habar Gidir clan and took over his fathers position . But he was an American citizen that fought in the Gulf War with the US Marine Corp . Now isn't that a kick in the butt ?
He was also deployed to Somalia as a translator and to act as a liaison between the US led UNITAF and his father. He had left several months prior to the Battle of Mogadishu, however.
@@kutter_ttl6786he was also stealing UN food out of the storage areas. So while he was an interpreter he was still working against the US and was working for his tribe.
Mistake to correct. While Farah was possibly the most powerful in the capital, he certainly wasn’t the most powerful warlord in the country. Farah was supported by the Americans before this, but they had switched sides to support the other factions in the capital. The militants were called USC, not SNA. SNA is the Somali national army, which was in opposition to Aideed.
@@grapefruitsimmonsKindan funny, because as mentioned here and even more in the book, the mujahideens that thought the Somali's RPG tactics were the ones that fought the Soviets. The same mujahideen trained by US operatives on how to fight the Soviets, specifically russian Hinds.
He was for sure the strongest warlord in the country. At one point he controlled galmudug to kismayo. And sna is not somali national army there is not such thing named that, sna stands for somali national alliance and is when usc split into to habar gidr and abgaal factors and aidid as chairman for sna
My uncle, Danny, was no joke a part of this particular mission (it's one of the few interesting facts about my family okay). He had the tips of two fingers blown clean off and didnt realize it for like 6 hours (he said he thinks the heat from the bullet cauterized it) but would never say whether or not he killed anyone. He did lose a close friend in the operation though. Also said a somali woman was running around screaming and trying to stab soldiers with a kitchen knife. Never mentioned how they handled that one (i kinda dont wanna know).
RIP To the 19 US forces, one Malaysian force, one Pakistani force, and 315 Somali troops, militiamen, and civilians who were killed in the Battle of Mogadishu
I think The Operations Room got some competition Ngl, I think the Operations room explains more specific further details, and added little detail, but still both of your videos are 🔥
My uncle was one of the medics treating the wounded that day. Won’t talk about it and has just a somber look to his face ever since. I miss who he used to be.
Fortunate to meet Durant at Ft Carson in 2003. He was running a weapons range we were at. Got to hear boxing stories, drinking stories. The best story was his ability to not be able to pass NORAD psychological evaluation but they were letting him run a live fire range 😂 we all had a good laugh. Never forget this E-7 black dude. 230 pounds, 6ft 6 was telling us he to afraid to box Durant. Guys is scary in the ring
Your people need to learn how to co-exist and live in peace. There has been wars since 2009. I hope no western soldiers will ever be deployed. Those people need to learn how to live in peace or fight until the end of the time.
And there is also the book. Great read, also gives a bit of perspective from Somali citizens. And some funny moments with the soldiers that weren't mentioned here or shown in the movie.
Tom statterly a delta force operator at the time said the five dead from super six four had their remains returned in trash bags at the American gate of their base. Wasn’t too long after the battle American troops were protecting aidid at a peace conference in neighbouring Ethiopia
Black Hawk down became one of the event shows heroic action by Malaysia Armed Forces. When historian say about it either they love or not Malaysia name must be mention, without our heroic action and the live gave by one of our soldiers the rescued would became impossible.
I was just thinking about this literally yesterday, crazy how things come together in the ways it does. But this is hands down one of the best movies ever made
Yeah man i read that book as well its just sad how diplomatic efforts failed which subsequently led to this disaster. could’ve been avoided if the UN swallowed their pride
Anyone who is fighting a enemy using human shields and force to fight back aren't war criminals and did nothing wrong. Anyone who does this tactic are no longer protected under any article of war nor should be treated with respect. If this happens it should be understand that this is a lose lose but to the people force into that moment fighting a enemy that uses people as shields in a life or death struggle you have still the right to defend yourself.
@@grandcanyon-d4d I never even stated the US just in general that could apply to anyone and again not related to what I originally stated and not an argument.
You mentioned at 17:13 about Pakistani tank support. In the actual event, the Pakistani T-55 pulled out early on the mission due to lack of NVG, leaving the Malaysian Condor APC to carry on. The 19th Royal Malay Regiment ended up losing four APCs that night, but all the trapped soldiers were accounted for except Michael Durant.
Fun fact. Josh Hartnett starred in Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down in the same month (dec 01) Pearl Harbor won the oscar for sound editing and BHD won the oscar for sound mixing and film editing.
This devolved into a nightmare scenario in a hurry. I don't know if I've ever heard much of anything about this battle, specifically before. Thank you for educating me. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️
Just to help with the graphics production in the future, when a soldier is wounded or shot when he is up on the gun, he is either pulled or collapses into the vehicle. Nice work on this.
Thank You Griffin, for covering this battle. I was stationed in Panama, in a U.S. Army Aviation unit during this time (total time in service, 1991-1998). This hit us very hard. My unit had stepped up training in 1992 & 93, and we didn't know why. We'd were flying A LOT, for a unit, that, was suppose to be winding down. We had the old UH-1 Huey's, and the U.S. Army was phasing them out. With as much as we flew & trained, you'd think the next Gulf War was right around the corner. I'd have to look, but I think you covered Operation: Just Cause (which, would have to be a series. I served with guys who were involved in that conflict. To this day, little is really talked about that conflict.)
I had a feeling this was going to happen. Like I just knew sometime in the future that you were going to do a video about Black hawk down. Great video Griffin Johnson 👍👍👍
The Pakistan tanks dont do a thing. After getting hit by 1 RPG they left. That happen before encounter the road block, so right after entered the city. Watch Malbat to see how the rescue operation on UN side.
this entire ordeal has always pissed me off. You learn, you adapt, but in this scenario. everything was thrown out the window. it equates to eastern military doctrine. why was one guy given all of this power?
A side effect of the battle was the US reluctance to intervene in Africa, having direct repercussions on events such as the Rwandan genocide, that the US chose to sit out of, to avoid another Mogadishu.
Literally just got done rewatching Sean Ryans interview with Tom Satterly, a Delta Operator at the time who was there from mission beginning to end. Kind of morbid but also cool seeing the overlap in the story he told from his memory, and this one.
The background for the battle is essential. The Somali civilians were generally supportive of the Americans until the Abdi House Raid or Operation Michigan. The Americans claimed they were killing the milita but they actually killed a bunch of civilians that were trying to STOP Aidid and thw milita. The Somali civilians heard about this blatant act of terrorism and joined the militia in attacking the Americans during black hawk down. The anger at American terrorism also led to pilots being dragged through the streets post-battle. The American military realised they didn't look good so commissioned military vehicles for a propoganda movie called black hawk down
@oiuc2well somalis fight each other since the ancient times but when a foreigner intervenes then they unite, i think the same year Mogadishu saw the deadliest battle in Somalia’s history which resulted 300k casualties in 3 months between Aidid’s militia and another one in which Aidid himself was kia’d.
Tru they do unite and now they muat do the world is preparing for another world war its production spending must increase large in large and bulk @profinneupane6883
@@profinneupane6883stop making up numbers to push ur agenda lol, we have not fought each other since the ancient times the rest of the world did however pillaging different countries murdering anyone in sight.
After reading the book, you kind of realize that the civilians 100% thought they were under attack and were just trying to defend themselves and their families in their homes and of course they are also pissed off because of the other bombings and raids. It really makes you think what we were were to them was the British to us
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Hey can you post The Battle of Austerlitz
The USA government betrayd the central somali government in the late 80s and ignored them when they asked for aid and support against Ethiopia soviet supported hosted rebels, Somalia would have been saved if the USA government supported the central somali government in the late 80s,
My Muslim African brothers are white man slayers
@@ahmadfrhan5265 Preach Brotha✊🏾✊🏾
You Seriously Need to Take Your Job Serious...IRON your SHIRT!!!!!!! You still get a thumbs up!
Fact: A Malaysian director loved the film Black Hawk Down a lot but he saw Malaysia was left out of the film. He made a whole movie about the battle from the Malaysian perspective.
what is the name I wanna see it
@@someguy4512 MALBATT: Misi Bakara
@@Manhattan_Indies thank you
@@someguy4512 no problem!
I think the elite VAT69 (sic) malaysian specs ops unit fought there. Edit: I wad mistaken, as pointed out in the comments section, no specs ops, only Condor APC crews.
I always found it funny that in the movie Blackburn slipped because the helicopter was evading fire. I guess they thought it would’ve been too silly of a soldier just missed the rope
Never underestimate the power of America's God-complex
@@IC3XRwell they do comment multiple times in the movie that he just missed the rope, not that the helicopter was evading fire.
@@jeffct87 I know, but my point remains the same
Blackburn had one job
Orlando Bloom’s tiniest part in any movie ever
The two D-boys that lost their lives trying to defend Super 6-4 were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for going above and beyond the call of duty.
Yeah they were soldiers of fortune on the battlefield
Randy and Gordon. They knew they were gonna die, and still and went in.
Michael Durant was beaten with the severed arms and legs of these two men who gave their lives trying to save him, leading up to his capture. They were very brave.
I grew up 20 minutes away from Master Sgt Gary Gordon's hometown. The highway route going north of Lincoln is titled "Master Sergeant Gary Gordon Highway" because of this.
The Portland MEPS station oath room is called the "Gary Gordon Room". There is also a wonderful statue of him in his honor by the lake in Lincoln Maine.
He is honored and renowned as a local legend. My friends and family sometines enjoy lunch under his statue by the lake, always fully acknowledging the shadow we are under. He and his battle buddy's heroic sacrifice were par for the course in that battle. Herosim and bravery on full display from all those men.
That's true band of brothers right here. Not from the same mother but willing to die defending each other. My hat's off to them.
Let's go. In and out 1 hour adventure.
15 hours later:
Guys were we supposed to take a left or a right
Sounds like my camping adventure in the shanadoah valley.
@@kylezdancewicz7346their driver must’ve been the reincarnation of franz Ferdinand’s driver
@@goldenfiberwheat238😂
15hrs later they are still reporting "we are under heavy fire,we need air support to cover our retreat "😅😅
"Gordy's gone man. I'll be outside, Goodluck."
I grew up 20 minutes from Gordon's home town. Sometines my friends and family enjoy lunch under the shadow of his statue. Always acknowledging the humbling nature of it.
And this is what allegedly made the Rwandan Genocide worse since America was too spooked by what happened in Mogadishu to intervene.
If US intervened in Rwanda ot would have been much worse and will never stabilize
Today Rwanda has one of the best economies in Africa and stable secure life , An American intervention would've turned it into another Haiti
@@baha3alshamari152
One of the reasons I added the “allegedly” part.
@@baha3alshamari152 we don't know that at all. Having a moral compass means saving lives where we can... It is very convenient for those who want to disengage to say those people over there who are dying in vast numbers are better off without our help... Well, not really. Sure their economy is doing well today but that's like saying that the Black Death worked out for the best in Europe because it then led to a century of raised wages for workers... Not really compensation for the death and trauma.
@@joythought No of course not, as a good Christian I deplore murder and any form of suffering. Looking at this from a geopolitical perspective though is potentially valid as by intervening the US would have created a common enemy for the Hutus and Tutsis to fight against including themselves, also looking at how the US waged war against Afghanistan and Iraq, we can see how broadly respected institutions were torn down and new ones that had no legitimacy in the eyes of the people were created. It goes without saying that such suffering should require and should have required intervention but with the benefit of foresight we can see how US intervention would have had a detrimental affect on Rwanda, can we really say that Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan have greatly benefited from such US intervention? Not meaning to be rude, just want to engage with you intellectually
It definitely effected foreign policy in Africa for the remainder of the 1990s
My gosh, you had no idea how long I've been waiting for you to make a video about the Battle of Mogadishu!
I had no idea either
🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
🧢
Gee golly gosh!
At most, 11,205 days.
As Malaysian, the Battle of Mogadishu is pretty big topic in here. Especially the movie that Hollywood made about them. Even tho the Hollywood make an error about that movie, for not mentioning the Malaysia military units in the scenes where their trying rescuing the Americans, but I still proud for what their doing to accomplish the mission, for saving many lives in that battle.
My condolences to all soldiers who have fallen in that battle. ✨🪖🕊️
As a Pakistani , I agreed 💯. Both Pakistani and Malaysian peacekeeper have played an important role in this battle. This was also the most deadliest conflict for Pakistani peacekeepers. Salute to all the fallen soldiers in this conflict
why would you want your countries name be attached to the word humiliation?
@@Big_Black_311 it is not the humiliation they have fought exactly what they were ordered to.
Sad to say they got humiliated
Didn't they also make a movie about the Pakistani and Malaysian role in this fight? I remember seeing a preview for it but I don't remember the name. I'd love to watch it and see that side of the story.
Edit: it's called "Malbatt: Misi Bakara"
you'd think they realize after at least Super Six 4 that they should probably be ready for RPGs anytime a heli stays still for too long
They were very well aware of the risks and the pilots were moving from one location to another. The Black Hawks were being used to provide support. The Black Hawks were also being used to scare away the local populace.
Just as the video stated, the Somalis had received training from other groups on how to engage helicopters. They also put timers on the RPGs so they could air burst them. With combination of those two factors, the Somalis were able to effectively engage the Black Hawks
@edwardmoore7352 apparently, there's also statements that the heads in charge had lulled themselves to the belief that doing the exact same actions on every encounter would produce the same results, so no major changes to how a raid was done; meaning that the Somalis just had to time what event was next to get the best "results"
@@dan_38 true. The leadership definitely should have changed tactics. It worthy to point out that Washington was demanding results and previous tactics in the other raids were working. So, why change it now when they had pressure on them? Of course, that doesn’t excuse their leadership from correcting those actions
Speaking of leadership, I would honestly argue that it was poor communication and leadership that led to the outcome of the battle. There was too much radio interference during the battle, the officers were out of their elements, and Delta did not get along with the Ranger officers
This disaster led to the 160th completely changing their ops. They went to night ops almost exclusively.
Easier said than done man
The existence of delta force still a secret 7 years after Chuck Norris made the movie Delta Force.
I remember that movie. My favorite part is when Chuck Norris fires a rocket launcher that has a plug in it.
Well the movie delta force was about as far as you could get from what delta is. So yeah. It’s not a true story or anything.
@@johnbrown8570 I'm pretty sure even the mission was based on operation thunderbolt an Israeli operation.
I think "nonexistent" in this context probably refers to the idea that Delta's involvement was extremely hush-hush and secretive.
I know one of the guys who ran “The Mogadishu Mile”. He became a US Park Ranger and just recently retired.
There’s always someone 😂
Is that what he told you.
Has no chance to stay as an army ranger then turned to be a us park ranger
I remember this war from PC game - Delta Force : Black Hawk Down
@@averageamerican9427 Yep and the movie.
@@averageamerican9427you're in luck. Yesterday at the Xbox event they showed a pretty decent remake of it.
8:55 Yes! In the book Black Hawk Down, it ws mentioned that the RPG tactics was thought by mujahideen that fought against the Soviets. The same tactics thought by the US to the mujahideens.
From what I remember from the book, they dig a hole on the ground to use for backblast while aiming at helos.
Delta Force: Black Hawk Down + Team Sabre.
❤
i really like that movie
Great games. Novalogic was the standard in these types of games.
Ikr@@LDrumsOhio
I played that game, but as a kid it was kind of hard, so I dont think I ever beat the campaign. Hope the upcoming game remakes the campaign faithfully so I can play it again and give it another go. Otherwise, the game just looks like a trend chasing, live service, extraction shooter slop thats probably going to flop like all the rest, so I wont touch it even if its free.
Gary was from my hometown, the statue they have near the vets office is a lovely homage.
I'm from Millinocket. Got some family in Lincoln. Whenever we go out on his boat into the lake we acknowledge his statue and the reason it exists. ❤
My dad was a ranger in the US army he left the army about a year before the battle of Mogadishu and lost a few friends during the battle, he never talks about it much but he enjoys documentaries and action movies. He watched black hawk down one night with me and it made him tear up, one of the few times I’ve seen him cry
We don’t care
@@wewinningg904 Who's a good edgy boy!? You are! Have a treat, edgy boy!
Your father is a Killer no matter how many times he cry.
@@bugazi3037A great compliment
I've always been into this story because i have a Somali friend who was living in mogadishu when all this went down. I've always liked the movie and the documentaries but talking to him about it is a different level. He said there were over 1500 dead somalis after the conflict was over, but he also said the militias would kill 100 people a day before this happened and it mostly stopped after. He said Bakara market is safe today, i still don't think i;d ever go there.
Well I can tell you one thing now. It still isn't safe. Somalia is more divided than ever. Random killings, corruption and poverty continue to be massive problems for our people.
@@InfaredAviator1492don’t exaggerate, it’s not that bad. It’s a lot better than before. If it weren’t, we wouldn’t be part of the security council.
Why would anyone go to somalia, ofc its not safe
@@fmjjjjn7510Somália is a failed State
@@alexalexalex797don’t come to Somalia 🇸🇴 it’s not safe for infidels.
I remember watching the movie as a kid, I found it strange that a soldier would straight up jump off the helicopter.
It's incredible thats something that actually happen
The chopper was dodging an RPG im pretty sure?
When I visited family in Ethiopia I met a man in my Auntie’s shop who sported an M-16 which he said was captured from the American soldiers during the battle
is it possible That M16 could be one from the crash sites of 61 and 64 is it also possible to be Gordon’s Car15
Beautiful
Wait are you Ethiopian? Or are you a somali in ethiopia? (Ogadeni)
@@Lukxvsp Yh I am a Somali
@@maxkaz8383Not impossible but very improbable
If I had to put up with that, I’d call my friend kevin
No
Not the Kevin
He's too powerful
He must be a badass
I'd call my friend phil
I ever tell you about the time me and my buddy Keith got stranded in Mogadishu?
@@walnzell9328 Ellis, is now the best time?
"Without victory, there can be no peace. There will always be killing, you see. This is how things are in our world."
As a result of this disaster, special forces military operations are often done at night and if it does happen during the day, the special forces will have access to much more air support from Helicopter and C-130 Gunships, and other aircraft regardless of what time of day they carry out their missions
They had asked for proper air support. But Clinton denied the request because he didn't want to look to aggressive.
If you guys haven't seen black hawk down. I would totally recommend it.
Its a bs movie
Read the novel, there are changes in the movie.
There's changes in every movie. It may not be completely historical but it's still a good movie.@justvincent2083
No...
The USA government betrayd the central somali government in the late 80s and ignored them when they asked for aid and support against Ethiopia soviet supported hosted rebels, Somalia would have been saved if the USA government supported the central somali government in the late 80s, before the collapse in 1990,
How ironic after Aidid died his son Hussein Farrah Aidid became the leader of the Habar Gidir clan and took over his fathers position . But he was an American citizen that fought in the Gulf War with the US Marine Corp . Now isn't that a kick in the butt ?
He was also deployed to Somalia as a translator and to act as a liaison between the US led UNITAF and his father. He had left several months prior to the Battle of Mogadishu, however.
@@kutter_ttl6786 That's one heck of a family reunion.
@@kutter_ttl6786he was also stealing UN food out of the storage areas. So while he was an interpreter he was still working against the US and was working for his tribe.
Mistake to correct. While Farah was possibly the most powerful in the capital, he certainly wasn’t the most powerful warlord in the country. Farah was supported by the Americans before this, but they had switched sides to support the other factions in the capital. The militants were called USC, not SNA. SNA is the Somali national army, which was in opposition to Aideed.
Tbh literally all the u.s. enemies were once funded and trained by the u.s.
the militants were called Somali National Alliance (SNA) and Aideed was def one of the most powerful warlords in the country
@@grapefruitsimmonsKindan funny, because as mentioned here and even more in the book, the mujahideens that thought the Somali's RPG tactics were the ones that fought the Soviets.
The same mujahideen trained by US operatives on how to fight the Soviets, specifically russian Hinds.
He was for sure the strongest warlord in the country. At one point he controlled galmudug to kismayo. And sna is not somali national army there is not such thing named that, sna stands for somali national alliance and is when usc split into to habar gidr and abgaal factors and aidid as chairman for sna
My uncle, Danny, was no joke a part of this particular mission (it's one of the few interesting facts about my family okay). He had the tips of two fingers blown clean off and didnt realize it for like 6 hours (he said he thinks the heat from the bullet cauterized it) but would never say whether or not he killed anyone. He did lose a close friend in the operation though. Also said a somali woman was running around screaming and trying to stab soldiers with a kitchen knife. Never mentioned how they handled that one (i kinda dont wanna know).
Is your uncle Danny McKnight?
Hawk 1: We're going down!
Hawk 2: uhhh
RIP
To the 19 US forces, one Malaysian force, one Pakistani force, and 315 Somali troops, militiamen, and civilians who were killed in the Battle of Mogadishu
"A hiss means it's close. A snap means..."
"Sir, they're shooting at us!"
"Well, shoot back"
“Now they’re shooting at us!”
@@lionelhutz5137Man I love that line, McKnight was so damn non-chalant.
I think The Operations Room got some competition
Ngl, I think the Operations room explains more specific further details, and added little detail, but still both of your videos are 🔥
The movie blew my mind as a child .The real event was even more crazy tbh.
My uncle was one of the medics treating the wounded that day. Won’t talk about it and has just a somber look to his face ever since. I miss who he used to be.
Fortunate to meet Durant at Ft Carson in 2003. He was running a weapons range we were at. Got to hear boxing stories, drinking stories. The best story was his ability to not be able to pass NORAD psychological evaluation but they were letting him run a live fire range 😂 we all had a good laugh. Never forget this E-7 black dude. 230 pounds, 6ft 6 was telling us he to afraid to box Durant. Guys is scary in the ring
The movie about this event by Ridley Scott is what made me respect US soldiers. What they do is bloody, dangerous and takes lots of courage.
😂😂
Ye learn history from movies budyy
R tard
As a Somali and long time fan thanks covering my such a brutal time for my family.
Your people need to learn how to co-exist and live in peace. There has been wars since 2009. I hope no western soldiers will ever be deployed. Those people need to learn how to live in peace or fight until the end of the time.
@@MrCooper83say that to your Italian friends who destabilize the region
@@MrCooper83lmao says an American who's been in how many wars and current funding a genocide
@@MrCooper83
Hypocrite much?
@@Ralo-h5u ?
Everyone in the EU: "why does Belgium take so long to form a government coalition"
Somalia: "what is even a government?"
Wut, I just saw the movie yesterday and now this video comes out!
I watched it a few weeks ago and I can hear all the music and audio while watching this
Next, you read the book! Lots of info there not on the movie. Some not in this video. Some funny moments as well.
@@johnlucas6683 is the books name also black hawk down?
They always left out the other UN forces saving their asses out of there.
You did it! I've been waiting year's for a video of this!
omg napa
everyone's gangsta until Jamal pulls up with an RPG
This is why if a war was to start, the Russian Army would have no problem dealing with NATO.
That's racist
@@cakeyummy2401 Your opinion is cursed and no one cares.
Not all black people have the name jamal
This took a lot of time and effort to make well animated and detailed well done bud
There is a much longer 2 part videos on this event by "The Operations Room". Also there is the hollywood movie "Black Hawk Down" (2001).
And there is also the book. Great read, also gives a bit of perspective from Somali citizens. And some funny moments with the soldiers that weren't mentioned here or shown in the movie.
They made a movie in 2004 (maybe) about this, its really good has some pretty big names in it, Black Hawk Down.
3 years off
@@aaron4214 *2007
*2001
including obi-wan kenobi
@@issanlinryoficial7712 oh
Awesome Video!!!! Thank you for sharing
Any possibility you could do a video on Gallipoli?
yes do one on Gallipoli!
Or the Kokoda Campaign.
Tom statterly a delta force operator at the time said the five dead from super six four had their remains returned in trash bags at the American gate of their base. Wasn’t too long after the battle American troops were protecting aidid at a peace conference in neighbouring Ethiopia
Lmfao
Well thats what happens when you play world police.
"Gordys gone man I'll be outside good luck"
legendary line them delta guys are heros the best of our American 🇺🇸 boys
thank for including the UN force..There one malaysian movie that come out last year about malaysia POV : MALBATT: Misi Bakara
Black Hawk down became one of the event shows heroic action by Malaysia Armed Forces. When historian say about it either they love or not Malaysia name must be mention, without our heroic action and the live gave by one of our soldiers the rescued would became impossible.
The book and movie showed the most intense combat in modern times
I was just thinking about this literally yesterday, crazy how things come together in the ways it does. But this is hands down one of the best movies ever made
There is so much more to the back story of this event. Read Battle ready by Gen Tony Zinni and Tom Clancy.
Yeah man i read that book as well its just sad how diplomatic efforts failed which subsequently led to this disaster. could’ve been avoided if the UN swallowed their pride
Thank you Griffin!! I’d been waiting for this!
Can you make a video on the Kashmir Genocide during the late 80s and early 90s?
incredible video thx man, keep it up!
Anyone who is fighting a enemy using human shields and force to fight back aren't war criminals and did nothing wrong. Anyone who does this tactic are no longer protected under any article of war nor should be treated with respect. If this happens it should be understand that this is a lose lose but to the people force into that moment fighting a enemy that uses people as shields in a life or death struggle you have still the right to defend yourself.
Invaders had no right to speak about human rights
Not the point of the statement nor is it a augment. Also being the "invader" doesn't means by default the bad side or in the wrong. Context's matter.
@@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv Americans would literally do the same if their country were invaded too, they went there to occupy the country, that's it.
@@grandcanyon-d4d I never even stated the US just in general that could apply to anyone and again not related to what I originally stated and not an argument.
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv stop making a fool of yourself
Pilla wasn’t on the 50. He was sitting behind Strucker on the right side with his M60 pointed out the window.
Philippine-American War when? I think it would be a really cool bit of history to cover.
You mentioned at 17:13 about Pakistani tank support. In the actual event, the Pakistani T-55 pulled out early on the mission due to lack of NVG, leaving the Malaysian Condor APC to carry on. The 19th Royal Malay Regiment ended up losing four APCs that night, but all the trapped soldiers were accounted for except Michael Durant.
Fun fact.
Josh Hartnett starred in Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down in the same month (dec 01)
Pearl Harbor won the oscar for sound editing and BHD won the oscar for sound mixing and film editing.
Just one correction: Siyaad Barre was a dictator but far from brutal.
ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER ARMCHAIR HISTORY BANGER
This devolved into a nightmare scenario in a hurry. I don't know if I've ever heard much of anything about this battle, specifically before. Thank you for educating me.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️
Please do a video on UN peacekeeping missions!
Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart, the very definition of utter bravery and selflessness. 🇺🇸
Just to help with the graphics production in the future, when a soldier is wounded or shot when he is up on the gun, he is either pulled or collapses into the vehicle. Nice work on this.
What a horrific but amazing story.
I love it when you and your team do modern-day battles!
Malaysia mentioned!
Do the siege of the jadotville next😊
6:58 toyota 79 series spotted
Thank You Griffin, for covering this battle. I was stationed in Panama, in a U.S. Army Aviation unit during this time (total time in service, 1991-1998). This hit us very hard. My unit had stepped up training in 1992 & 93, and we didn't know why. We'd were flying A LOT, for a unit, that, was suppose to be winding down. We had the old UH-1 Huey's, and the U.S. Army was phasing them out. With as much as we flew & trained, you'd think the next Gulf War was right around the corner.
I'd have to look, but I think you covered Operation: Just Cause (which, would have to be a series. I served with guys who were involved in that conflict. To this day, little is really talked about that conflict.)
Surprisingly, he hasn't covered Just Cause. I agree, that would be an excellent subject to cover.
Good to know the actual history of Black hawk down
16:01 I like how you mention the efforts of the Malaysian and Pakistani UN peacekeepers
I had a feeling this was going to happen. Like I just knew sometime in the future that you were going to do a video about Black hawk down. Great video Griffin Johnson 👍👍👍
This was one of those events I heard of but never knew the full story. Absolutley insane that this even happened.
I actually want to see an evolution of Spanish uniforms, if you fellows don’t mind.
Finally, after waiting for years, someone animated this.
Excellent video
Malaysian mentioned
(So I guess that's the movie my father watched a few months ago, the name is MALBATT: Misi Bakara)
The Pakistan tanks dont do a thing. After getting hit by 1 RPG they left. That happen before encounter the road block, so right after entered the city.
Watch Malbat to see how the rescue operation on UN side.
this entire ordeal has always pissed me off. You learn, you adapt, but in this scenario. everything was thrown out the window. it equates to eastern military doctrine. why was one guy given all of this power?
YES HE FINALLY LISTENED
RPGs are to Black Hawks what Javelins are to Russian tanks.
Bowden's book is classic. It ranks right up there with We Were Soldiers Once by Moore for a description of small unit battle.
Holy smokes its the helicopter hell.
Nobody wins in war, however it is often necessary, when it isn't necessary it should be avoided at all costs.
I guess the US didn’t learn the lesson that highly motivated locals are not to be underestimate
Well they do after that
Except in Afghanistan, probably, but they probably blamed on the geography more
They make good test subjects for research and development, though.
We weren't there to take the city had we been there would be nobody left. We were there to stop gangs from unaliving aid workers.
@@matthewc4590given the marines were routed and 3 blackhawks went down, this one was one costly "test"
I've seen all of your uploads. I don't post comments, but I wanted to say you did an excellent job in this presentation.
A side effect of the battle was the US reluctance to intervene in Africa, having direct repercussions on events such as the Rwandan genocide, that the US chose to sit out of, to avoid another Mogadishu.
Lmao
Literally just got done rewatching Sean Ryans interview with Tom Satterly, a Delta Operator at the time who was there from mission beginning to end. Kind of morbid but also cool seeing the overlap in the story he told from his memory, and this one.
The background for the battle is essential. The Somali civilians were generally supportive of the Americans until the Abdi House Raid or Operation Michigan. The Americans claimed they were killing the milita but they actually killed a bunch of civilians that were trying to STOP Aidid and thw milita. The Somali civilians heard about this blatant act of terrorism and joined the militia in attacking the Americans during black hawk down. The anger at American terrorism also led to pilots being dragged through the streets post-battle. The American military realised they didn't look good so commissioned military vehicles for a propoganda movie called black hawk down
Your videos aspect ratio is *chefs kiss* 🤌
love your content.
Those guys that hit the helis must of had one hell of a party after it was over
im somali but rip to everyone that died here they all were fighting under orders both sides
@oiuc2well somalis fight each other since the ancient times but when a foreigner intervenes then they unite, i think the same year Mogadishu saw the deadliest battle in Somalia’s history which resulted 300k casualties in 3 months between Aidid’s militia and another one in which Aidid himself was kia’d.
Tru they do unite and now they muat do the world is preparing for another world war its production spending must increase large in large and bulk @profinneupane6883
@@profinneupane6883 300k in the capital? what battle...that's an absurd over exaggeration
@@profinneupane6883the Somalis united because American terrorists killed a bunch of civilians in a raid
@@profinneupane6883stop making up numbers to push ur agenda lol, we have not fought each other since the ancient times the rest of the world did however pillaging different countries murdering anyone in sight.
Supposedly, later it was revealed Aidid s forces learned how to set altimeter-based fuses on their RPGs
Never underestimate your enemy!
This is why if a war was to start, the Russian Army would have no problem dealing with NATO.
Or just don't give humanitarian aid
US killed over 1000 Somalis and lost only 18 men. Somalis underestimated the US
@@cakeyummy2401 The Berlin Airlift aggressively refutes your take.
@@SirMattomaton ?
After reading the book, you kind of realize that the civilians 100% thought they were under attack and were just trying to defend themselves and their families in their homes and of course they are also pissed off because of the other bombings and raids. It really makes you think what we were were to them was the British to us
Jesus: It makes no difference, you are all barbarians except the Romans.
@@عليياسر-ك9ظ
An Arab calling others barbarians
@vulpes7079 Why are you talking about yourself, Berber?
14:30 It was an angry mob trying to lynch and mutliate them lol they’re combatants not civilians at that point, no sympathies