How To Set Up The PERFECT FLOAT On Your Floyd Rose Bridge
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- You can do it! Learn how to understand and maintain your Floyd Rose bridge, so that you can dial it in with confidence whenever a situation arises. Did you change your tuning or your strings, and now your bridge is sticking up in the back, or sunken into the body? Are you curious about your spring configuration, or thinking of adding another spring? I tackle it ALL in this detailed Floyd Rose float tutorial!
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THE BEST tuning video for FR bridges!!
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Let it be known--This is the clearest video on how to properly set up a Floyd Rose!
Haha I'll take it!🤘😎🎸
I use a block to make it fixed bridge briefly then tune the guitar. Once it’s perfectly tuned on fixed bridge I start adjusting the spring tension until the block drops or loosen up. That technique usually get it done very quickly.
As someone who loves to tinker, I love Floyd's. There is something satisfying about setting them up properly
Totally agree!
For me the fastest way to do this is: Slightly overtighten the strings -> put an AA battery under the trem, which is the perfect size to keep it flush -> tune your strings -> remove battery -> loosen springs until its in tune again.
If it works for you, roll with it!🤘
Bro just saved my life
I tried this and WOW!! This made it so much easier to set up . I was having a slight instability in tuning and this completely fixed the problem I was having. Great advice!!
I use a battery as well except I cover it up with electrical tape to thicken it a bit more so that it actually holds up the trem in place. Still a good way to do it
Bro thank you! This is great advice!
Your advice was more helpful than dozens of videos. Thank you!
Awesome! Happy to hear it!
Thank you my friend. You put a ton of effort into making this video and it helped me tremendously to digest truly how much tuning and retuning and adjusting must occur. I found myself having to add a new spring and could only do it accurately by watching this video. Thanks again.
Hey happy to hear it, and happy to help!🎸
I've been playing Floyds for over a decade and I'm very comfortable doing this already... I'm still watching this clip regardless because you've got some great tips and advice Rob, there's always stuff to learn!! HUGE fan from Wales, UK!!
I appreciate that brother!👊🎸
I'm in Wales 2,Swansea
@@crovian1985 Most Welsh the better Boyo
Same here! I can always use a refresher course
Thanks Rob
The perfect video to showcase why I don't mess with FR trems anymore lol. I love them, but man.
I like this video. It's really great that you show how, while time consuming, someone can really dial in the perfect float without blocking the bridge.
Thanks for tuning in man!
dude you have given me a full understanding of how the floyd works. thank you so much❤️
I'm super happy to hear that man!🎸
So many other videos with tips and tricks. This is the most straightforward by far.
Thanks and happy to hear it man!🎸 I recommend checking out my latest float video too if you're interested! ua-cam.com/video/KC6s5fjD1r0/v-deo.html
@@RobArnoldWorld thanks!
Nice video, for anyone wanting to understand how the floyd works, this is perfect
Happy to hear it! 🎸
I love working on my guitars. This is like having my own guitar tech instructing me on "How to" via video. 😀👍
Haha nice!🎸
Rob,,,,,your Floyd videos, honestly,, have to be the best. Hands down. Keep up the great content and thanks 😊
I really appreciate that man, and I'm glad to know they've been helpful!🎸
Easy the best and clearest Floyd Rose tutorial video I have ever seen! This makes my life much easier!
So glad to hear that man!🎸
The best tutorial on adjusting floating trem I have ever seen. Thanks a lot bro. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Happy to hear it, and happy to help!🎸
Great video mate, thanks alot!!!!
Had to login to leave a comment thanking you. Recently got a charvel with floating trem and after pulling my hair out for hours I finally found this video and your advice worked immediately. Saved me alot of frustration. Thank you sir.
Very happy to hear that man, and thanks for letting me know!🎸
Great video on setting up a Floyd with explanations on lower tunings, which I don't think any other video mentions. Great, clean camera work.
Thanks a lot man! Glad you dug it!🎸
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I was struggling for hours trying to figure out my issue (raised bridge) I ended up ordering an extra spring, took my time going through the video and paying attention and now I have achieved the perfect float thanks to this video.
If only I had found this video 25 years ago, I would still have my Ibanez RG
Again, thank you! I was pulling what little hair I have left out.
Awesome man! I'm very happy to hear that, and happy to have helped! Cheers and thanks for letting me know! 🎸
best video about this issues
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude!!! I’m so stoked I found your channel. I figured you just weren’t really putting out any content...for some reason. LOVED the resurrection album and dvd. Such fond memories learning those riffs. That’s as during my first year of college when i really started being serious about getting my pick hand into shape and playing some of those complex patterns. Even switched to Jazz iii’s and totally changed how I hold the pick from the way Matt holds it to a more traditional tucked grip like yours. Crazy man.
Right on Isan! And welcome aboard bro! 🤘
Your previous videos on Floyd float setup made it quite an easy endeavour to understand finally for my Schecters i bought to replace my ESP(seeing as they are made with the same parts in the same factory) It solved sooo many headaches i had
Great man! I'm glad to hear it. This is a fresh version for whomever may enjoy it!
There’s so many different ways to do this stuff. I always love seeing how other people do it. 🤘
Yep! That's part of makes all this stuff fun. Seeing different methods, brainstorming, experimenting, etc. You gotta love it!🎸
this is the best guide I've come across for setting up the level on a floyd!
I've finally properly setup my LTD M-330R that was given to us last month and it had quite a steep angle when we got it, it had a Floyd Rose special and it was really annoying to setup.
Now it's perfect! it now stays in tune when the trem bar is being used.
Thank you!
Awesome! Happy to have helped!🎸
Been playing for about 17 years now and always been a bit intimidated by Floyds but I've been considering finally biting the bullet and getting a guitar with one and this video has me confident I can handle the set up
Happy to hear it! Ain't nothing to it, but to do it!🎸
I've been playing for about a month and the second guitar I started playing was my dad's and it had a Floyd and I shit my pants when I tried figuring out how to tune it
Thank you so much! New Floyd user here and I can’t wait to setup my Fender HM Strat this weekend. This will help tremendously.
Glad to hear that man! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Tedious job but so thankful for this video!
Thanks dude! If you can learn to enjoy the process, it becomes well, enjoyable!🎸
I wish i watch all these videos before i touched the guitar lol took all the strings off now bridge and strings all over the place
This was great bro thank u🍺🎸
Happy to help! 🍺🎸
I followed along to set up an RG7620 I got recently. I restrung it with some heavier strings and it did exactly what your example did. Straight to the point and super informative as always. Thanks Rob!
Happy to hear it man!
wassup rob .....dude you're videos have made my guitars scream bro thank you so much and i can level that bridge for you if you need me too....
Awesome John! Cheers bro🤘
I think It was cool to learn a little bit
I've never been one to do my own guitar work but now this helps me alot
Happy to hear it!🎸
This video saved my life! Thank you so much! :D
Right on! Happy to help!🎸
i had a guitar with a Floyd in the past, and this video makes me want to get another one
Good man! I say go for it!🎸
Going from e to C standard on my first Floyd rose guitar. Big thanks.
Right on!🎸
Thank you! Worked like a charm, and I had an issue with this from day one.
My pleasure! And I'm also a Jeep Dude!🎸
Fantastic video, cheers for all the help!
Hey happy to hear it! 🎸
Great video Rob! FRs are always a headache, but this video is a very well done all encompassing guide on how to tame the beast.
Thanks Joe! 🎸
I had to send this golden knowledge to a buddy of mine just now. Thanks Rob.
i didn't wanna write a small novel on how these are set up hahahaha....
I'm super happy to hear that man!🙏🎸
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Awesome video, very well done. Most of my guitars are Floyds, always can learn a new trick. Thanks Rob 🤘🤘🤘
Glad to hear it! And I'll bet you've got some skills in the Floyd dept...
Am I right?
@@RobArnoldWorld Oh yeah but it came with lots of trial and error. I find it fun now, videos like this help so much!
@@tonesguitars Agreed!
Look at yer...
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So patient, yet giving so much knowledge...
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Rob, this is SO helpful - I bought my first FR guitar recently and managed to set it up in Drop C with the perfect float thanks to this video! It’s an LTD with EMGs and is now my Chimaira guitar. You are an amazing teacher, thank you!
Thanks Jack! Super happy to hear that man! Which LTD do you have?
@@RobArnoldWorld it’s an M-1000 in Snow White - been playing along to the Chimaira tabs on your Patreon!
@@Jack1990Stevens Ahh nice man!🎸
Dude great video.....very patient and informative.
Hey thanks a lot man, and I hope it helped you out!🎸
You’re so rad! Wish videos like this existed when I first started on floating systems lol. Would have save a lot of time and money. Great video 🤘
Haha thanks dude! I wish they did too when I started out!🤘
thank you very much, did like you said and like you said trial and error, my floyd rose was wayy sunken into the body to the point where the tremolo didnt work upwards.
Great video as usual Rob. When you tune the guitar to pitch. You go from string 6-1 as you explained clearly in your video. I learned to tune a Floyd by skipping from 6-1-5-2-4-3. I know it's like 2 sides of the same coin but I just wanted to get your opinion on it. I find it balances the bridge better when I'm tunning up but maybe I've been doing it wrong all along. Keep up the great work. 🤘
That's interesting! I'm going to try that!🤘
I’ve always thought this when I was tuning, wondered if a different string pattern would make life easier!
Great video and explanation. Over the years especially with floyds it was trial and Error regarding setting it up, like you said. But if you get used to it, it is actually not that difficult. The 3-spring method for me doesn't work, because it is for most string gauges in combination with different tunings to weak, especially in the triangle shape. The disadvantage of that spring shape is that most of the force is on the middle spring. I always go for the 4-spring method, also for tuning stability. I recently did a setup for my Caparison dellinger Chris Amott sig. It didn't stay in tune for some reason, replaced the springs (yes they wear out) and added a fourth spring and now it is rocksolid😎🤟
Nice tips!🎸
Killer video - I know a floating bridge can be a daunting concept even to seasoned guitarists but I learned a ton from this and know so much more about the it now doesn’t seem as scary lol
Awesome tek! I'm glad you tuned in! I'm ready for some drum workshop videos from your channel!🥁
Thanks
Hey thank you bro! I appreciate it big time! 👊🙏🎸
Great video. Thank you. Blessings.
Thank you for the save
My pleasure! 🎸
Thank you that was a massive help. I have been fighting a LTD kh202 all evening 😢
Happy to help man!🎸
I love your guitar tech videos, everything is so clearly explained. Many thanks
Glad to hear it bro!🤘😎
thanks
Thank you sir, an excellent all round explanation & easy to follow -finally got my guitar in tune again for the first time in months 👍
Excellent man! Happy to hear it!🎸
Huge thank you for this video
My pleasure! Thanks for checking it out🎸
Skyscraper Guitars has a great method and some great tools for Floyd setup. I've never been able to get through a Floyd set up without putting holes in drywall or screaming into a pillow until my eyes are bloodshot, but Skyscraper's method and tools made the last Floyd set up I had to do near painless and pretty dang fast. That should mean something coming from a guy who used to cry in the bathroom when a customer would come in with a Floyd.
Haha goes easy on your walls brother! Thanks for the tip and I'll definitely see what Skyscraper is all about!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld Please do, I promise I'm not getting paid to shill for him! lol
@@Zane_Doe Their stuff looked sweet for sure! I'll keep em' in mind!
Maybe my method has a flaw... but I just block the bridge at a level plane. Tune up to desired pitch. Lock it. Remove block. Tighten or loosen springs til the 5th string is in tune again. A lot less back and forth. Seems solid and way less fiddley than the method in this video. Tell me why I'm wrong?
This is a great explanation of how a Floyd works and how to set it up. A lot of the vids ignore how meticulous you really need to be if you want it to stay in tune. What work bench are you using to do a standing setup? That looks more comfortable than hunching over a table or a lap.
Thanks dude! And you're right about how meticulous you need to be! The workstation I'm using here is an Ultracase tech box. They're totally awesome, but pretty pricey. 👉 www.ultracase.com/tech-box.html
@@RobArnoldWorld thank you. This thing is pricey like you said but it's perfect. I put it on the kitchen counter and instant portable standing work space. No more straining my back working with the guitar in my lap. Seriously thanks for the tip.
@@JD-vj4go Hey right on! Glad to hear you picked one up!
Wow! Great helpful video!
Happy to hear it!🎸
ditto to get to drop c on a strat SSH thanks for the insights
Awsome tuning sensei helped me out tons it couldn't have been any clearer than that...🤘😎👍
Awesome James! Happy to hear it!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld ive been trying to figure it out but thanks i had never owned a Floyd rose tremelo before i was used to strats they stay in tune better if they float
Man that bridge is heavy! All this iterative process has to be done with the guitar in playing position, not horizontally. Sometimes the bridge sits back in horizontal position because of gravity, but when in playing position is just fine.
Excellent video. One thing I've always done a little differently is I like to leave the fine tuners backed off instead of mid way, and tune slightly flat on purpose before locking the nut down. Between 20 cents to pitch more on the heavier gauge strings than on the treble strings. Then tune to pitch with the fine tuners. Only because it leaves more adjustment room in the fine tuners as the strings age and stretch from playing. I only changed my strings maybe once a month or two when I was playing regularly, it's a lazy tactic 😂
Great tip! My only argument against this would be that I often find that the strings sharpen after tightening the nut screws. So you get everything in tune with the tuners, then tighten the nut screws, then do your final tuning on the fine tuners... And if the strings sharpened after tightening the nut screws, you need some room to back them off. Have you ever experienced this as well?
@@RobArnoldWorld I found that if you leave the strings just flat enough tightening the locking nut will bring them just about right to pitch, most of the time the nut has barely any effect on the treble strings. Sometimes the low E would be sharp but I fix that by skipping it in the fine tuner adjustments and by the time I come back around it's either right at pitch or slightly flat. And then by the next day I might have to give all of them a regular tune up with the fine tuners like normal.
@@tdarcs Word! I often do the same, and leave the strings slightly flat before tightening the nut screws. 🎸
Thank you my friend
My pleasure!🎸
Wow man. Thanks.🤝
🔥🔥🔥 this is amazing 🔥🤟🔥
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You can also use higher grade springs as well
Rob best Video on Floyd thanks for taking so much time to make this video. I liked and subscribed ---.Doug Marks recommended tuning Floyd Rose 3 4 2 5 1 6 = G D B A HE LE. pattern.
Hey thanks man, and welcome aboard! 🎸
please do a how-to for action/ string height adjustment on the Floyd Rose
Have you checked this one out? ua-cam.com/video/ktiF2rysCW0/v-deo.html
I think you may find it helpful! And as I say in the vid, I typically adjust my action from the neck, and not the bridge. But of course, sometimes action adjustments are necessary at the bridge. But please start here, and let me know if it helped!
@@RobArnoldWorld yeah, i did check the neck after watching that vid, mine looks good with a slight bow so gonna need to adjust the string height from the Floyd ? or should I adjust the neck to be more "straight" ?
@@kopan14 Personally I'd get the neck straight first, or suuuuuuuuper close to straight. And then if I still wasn't satisfied, then you simply lower your mounting studs, by turning them clockwise, a little at a time. So maybe start with a half turn on each, dive your bar back and fourth a few times to get things to settle, then retune, and see how it feels, being on the look out for fret buzz. Because now you'll play the balancing game of neck relief, vs bridge height. You obviously want the best feeling low action, with minimal fret buzz. (a little is acceptable).
So after lowering your bridge, you may then need to back off the truss rod a touch, giving it a little more relief. Good luck! 🎸
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Very helpful on how to set up. Though it kills me to see 13-56 thats so tight for drop c. I use light top heavy bottom 10-52 and they're perfect for drop c
Cool video man! That guitar is sweet, very shiny
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ITS A SITUATION OF BALANCE AND TENSION WITH THE STRINGS TOO.... YOU CAN MAKE THE FLOYD BE PULLING FWD IF YOU TU YOUR GUITAR AT THAT POSITION OR ACTUALLY BE PARALLEL IF YOU ALLOW THE FFLOYD TO GO BACK AND TUNING THE GTR THAT WAY..I CATUALLY CAN PUT MY FLOYD PARALLEL TO THE GUITAR BODY AND WITH 2 SPRINGS...
Good video. 👍
Holy crap!! 13 to 56 for drop c! I wouldn't be able to bend those strings since I use 11 to 49 for the same tunning.
It is kinda tough!
This was incredibly helpful Rob! Thank you so much. Just tuning up my LTD Alexi-200
Time to check out the other videos now to complete the set-up!
Awesome bro!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld 🤘🤘 hey, I'm curious what strings you usually go to for your Drop C setups?
@@MartinBellamyMBDrums For the past few years I've been using DR High Beam 11-52's, and I love em'!
@@RobArnoldWorld Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation! I'll be picking up a set to try out🤘🤘
Really appreciate all the content, it's so helpful. Cheers!
@@MartinBellamyMBDrums Thanks for tuning in bro!
Thanks Rob this is great I got to play with you a long time ago in Flint, MI it must have been 2005, You were with machine head It was a really good time The opening band I think something happened and we got the call from the owner of the machine shop, Good times! I thought about you and the roadrunner United DVD popped up in my UA-cam feed and I saw Andols, This is a really good clear video I love it! do you have any thoughts on a brass block the larger tremolo block versus the stock reel Floyd Rose, thanks for the tips!
Hey awesome man! I love stories like that, and I remember the Machine Shop well!
As for the big blocks, I had one built into each of my 2011 ESP's Customs, the RA-4 and RA-5, and honestly I notice no difference whatsoever compared to a regular block in a stock Floyd. Thanks for tuning in!🎸
Mate, im such a knuckle head.... I never once thought about an extra spring!! 🤣 nice guitar, Ive got a few teles... great video rob.
Awesome! I was hoping that spring segment would set off some light bulbs here or there! 🤘💡🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld was my 10 year anniversary on the 26th, my wife bought me a Orange Rockerverb... it Rocks mate
@@scottbrady2301 Sweet man!🤘
And congrats to you and the mrs.!
@@RobArnoldWorld thanks matey
Rob, it'll be super interesting if you do a video on how do you set your pickup height, passives and actives. thans a lot :-)
Honestly man, I don't really have any method to it. I just eyeball what looks appropriate in terms of pickup height. I wish there was something more substantial or scientific I could share with you about it, but unfortunately I kinda just wing it.
@@RobArnoldWorld Thanks a lot Rob, I have the same amp and a Traditional cab, an LTD M-I Custom 87 with an 81 but I don't know if it's a cab problem, it doesn't sound this tight (maybe you use an Oversized cab which is more scooped). I'm struggling a lot and honestly I don't know if it's a cab problem. It's used but like new.
@@Hagstrom4ever I would doubt that the issue is your cab. I suppose one way to know though, would be to borrow a different cab from a friend or something, and then do some tests. None of my cabs are oversized btw. Try switching up the environment your cab is in too, to see if that makes any difference. For example, your rig will sound one way in a garage, and a completely different way in a closet.
Good as hell🤙
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Robb, are u ever going to go a clinic in the scottish higlands?
Much respect bro.
Honestly I doubt it man, but hey, you never know! I'd love to make it back to Scotland one day!
Rob, thank you so much for your channel. It has inspired me to start recording my own music again! Much love!
Glad to hear it! Always happy to inspire, and best of luck with your recordings!🤘
SRV! Had 5 springs
There's an interesting way to do this that requires less trial and error. It involves blocking the trem so that it stays flat, whether it's moving forward or backward. Once it's blocked and level, tune and stretch the strings out. After that you remove the block and either tighten or loosen the claw screws until it's level/in tune again.
I have heard some folks talking about this method, but I'd have to try it myself and see it with my own eyes to believe it! haha
@@RobArnoldWorld I totally get that. Ben Eller has a video on it, which is where I learned about the idea. The only way it'll save you time is if you stretch the strings appropriately, otherwise you'll end up doing the same amount of work as the traditional method you demo'd.
At least once they're set, you're good - devotion to quality pays off.
@@RobArnoldWorld I messaged you on FB. I'd love to show you how.
so simple its what i do ! block the tremolo both ways using coins or wedges no messing around then remove the blocks
Yeah, it's what I do too - block it out, get the tune I want and then do the trem adjustments. It's a bit harder I think but probably faster.
This is helpful as hell thanks a lot! Makes a lot of sense. I was trying to go from e to c standard with 9 gauge strings and I get it now. Didn’t wanna mess anything up with trial and error so these videos help. New subscriber!
Awesome bro! Happy to help, and welcome aboard!🎸
By the way I love the Kenny G background music lol!
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Alright, I did it - after gaining confidence from your Floyd Rose series I ordered the new Brendon Small Ghosthorse! 🤘
Wish I would’ve seen your older Floyd videos before I sold my Kirk Hammett Ouija guitar last year 😓 That guitar was amazing but I was way too intimidated by the Floyd and the other videos I watched made it seem way too complicated.
Well, while it's a bummer you sold your Hammett, I'm glad you've got a Ghosthorse on the way! Happy to have helped in any small way!🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld Your videos helped me conquer my fear of the Floyd!
That Ghosthorse I mentioned never came in so I canceled but I just got a Jim Root Charvel. I took it from standard to drop A while watching your FR videos.
Would you mind if I included a little 20 second comp of your Floyd videos in my video for the Charvel? A lot of Jim Root fans want the Charvel but are scared of the trem. Directing them to you will definitely ease their minds!
@@sunnyhaair Cool man! Go for it I guess! I'm not really sure what that means, but give it a go and let's see what happens!
@@RobArnoldWorld Thanks!
Sorry for the confusion! I should’ve explained better 😅 I’m working on a review for the guitar and during the string change segment I’ll be mentioning I learned from your Floyd Rose series. I was hoping the b-roll for that could be screengrabs from your videos. Thanks again for your permission!
@@sunnyhaair Oh right on man! I'll look forward to checking it out!
Here’s a scenario. Trying to restring with a different gauge, no matter what adjustments you make the bridge still sits like “/“ and I can’t get the strings to pitch AT ALL (some strings will go to pitch and others can’t get passed floppy without knocking everything else out). This is an Ibanez UV70P brand new, switching from Ernie ball super slinky 9-54 to regular slinky 10-56. Tuning is AEADGBe
Sounds like you need to tighten your trem claw screws! Switching to a higher gauge will cause your bridge to pop up in the back like you described, and you can counteract that by tightening the trem claw screws. But perhaps you've already tried that approach, and the issue is something deeper? Anyway, in a couple weeks, I'll be publishing a video where I'm doing a setup on a Floyd equipped guitar, and the new set of strings I plan to put on will effect my float. And so you can see how I'll go about it when only minor adjustments (hopefully) are needed. Keep en eye out!🎸
I wish the spring adjustment screws were allen keys or somthing, most common issue ive had is screws heads stripping out
That is a good idea!
This is the exact way how a Floyd rose should be setup, but for some reason every time I purchased a guitar with Floyd rose, they have come with the bridge tilting way too forward. Also a very slight forward tilt is okay, but not too much
just take the middle spring off
detune it tune it up til its eneven the opposite way then throw the spring back on and itll even out as you tune
turning those screws is impossible youll strip em
I dare you yo do the same with the Ibanez Edge III 😅
Hi Rob, 'm sure you know this.... But what about a Tremol-no system? That will speed up the process to lock it to change tuning? If I like a new Guitar but it's only got floyd rose style, I would swap out for the Tremol-no and set it to hardtail mode to change tuning.
It's funny, I briefly mention the tremor-no in my new video that I'm editing right now! I have one but I've never installed it, and honestly fear it a little!
Hey, great video. Does it need to be "perfect float" and does it makes intonation problems if it's not? Thanks Rob :)
Perfect float is most desirable! It's just kind of the way it "should be". And since intonation is the very last step in the setup process, everything done to the guitar beforehand, has an effect on intonation. If you haven't seen it, check out my video on intonation! ua-cam.com/video/nDgIHibIE0M/v-deo.html