ALSO, as far as the warrior glyph goes, “frenzied assault” increases attack speed while wielding TWO HANDED weapons. Not dual wielding. Therefore, rather than making dual wield more powerful in pvp, this is designed for exactly the opposite: to make 2h more viable in pve.
@@Trickstini what does this have to do with anything? That’s the “single minded fury” rune. Entirely separate from “frenzied assault”. Meta read off the frenzied assault rune, and stated that it was for dual wielding, and pvp, when it blatantly says it’s for 2h, and would obviously therefor benefit 2h pve (this was literally added as a talent in later expansions to do just that). So my previous comment/correction is still dead accurate. Also, I don’t make the corrections to be a Dick. I’m a long time supporter of meta, and he’s actually supported my meme builds by shouting me out. Just trying to help get the proper info out there for people 😊
this will be a total failure, its way too retail-ish. everyones so powerful and can do anything and everything. no class fantasy. GG. stick with turtle wow
Another great video from MetaGoblin thx for that. For those of you looking for a specific class, here arte the timestamps: Druid: 1:38 Hunter: 3:05 Mage: 4:38 Paladin: 6:07 Priest: 7:00 Rogue: 8:04 Shaman: 9:20 Warlock: 10:23 Warrior: 11:48
Originally, mages were healers as healing used arcane magic. Paladins were the only ones that followed the light, and the light was a power that came from inside themselves and not from the Naaru. I've still got all the Warcraft RPG books that were cannon before wow, and all arcane magic had addiction properties that eventually would corrupt you if you failed too many checks. It was pretty cool.
Main gauche is not just French for left hand, it's also a type of weapon or weapon fighting style with which the combatant uses a short sword/long special dagger (in their left hand - or rather, in the hand that isn't their predominant hand, as the predominant hand will be holding the main weapon) in order to disarm their opponent, or parry, or get in some cheeky extra jabs, etc.
Glad stance😮please let’s this be the glad stance from WoD that was by far the thing I loved most from that expansion dpsing as a prot warrior with massive shield slams
A "maddening poison" that creates threat would be a nice thing (I mean, creating more pain than doing actual dmg would be a way to create threat). a stackable dot like the bleed effect of druid in wotlk.
Finally, Resto Druid will have something to do when not needing to cast heals. I always wanted Resto Druid to use a wand, now we can cast Wrath with no mana cost. Im loving it!
this will be a total failure, its way too retail-ish. everyones so powerful and can do anything and everything. no class fantasy. GG. stick with turtle wow
They will probably remove tree form again... I'm mad about it... if you want to dps as a resto druid just change form then pop back into tree form... it's like og stance dancing
@@Sathinrah I don’t like melee combat, and I want something that doesn’t take away my healing mana. So either a wand or a free wrath is perfect for Resto Druid.
You read AG from shamans wrong @10:00 . It converts the 25% damage done to healing. THEN it converts all of that healing as EXTRA DAMAGE to the target with flame shock
dont want to be that guy but... When you explain the rogue talent just a flesh wound you have your information wrong, you say blade flurry is remade wich is not the case, blade dance is an added spell that synergize with just a flesh wound to tank from the leg rune slot. doubled checked the datamining there is no information about remaking blade flurry and... you say frenzied assault is dual wielding when its 2 handed.
Looks like feral druid will be viable. Yet I remember when feral druid was made briefly viable at the very beginning of Burning Crusade, only to be nerfed back into heal bot only status in patch 2.0.10. Waiting to see if Blizz pulls the same shtuff in Season of Discovery before giving them anymore money.
Hey meta. I’d just like to add that the rogue poisons on horse side maybe not being viable because of windfury, is an irrelevant argument anyway, since, as you stated, druids are getting a windfury ability now too. So it would be just as irrelevant on ally side now too. Which leads me to believe, they’ll probably Uber buff the poisons, or change how wiffy works.
The druid ability doesnt interfere with poisons. So neither horde or alliance rogues need to worry. Shamans will probably use the threat reducing air totem instead of winfury in raids.
I think what MANY of us want to know is WILL THEY HAVE FIXED MANA for most classes? I love Shamans but they're downright useless in classic due to crap mana cost scaling. Are they confirming any changes to the classes outside rune-based stuff?
I'm a bit worried for resource management as well. Imagine if the armor doesn't get upgraded much in terms of stats, yet we get so many more abilities. It could become a 1-shot festivity in PvP, and an oom fest in PvE.
Yup, its a term commonly used for a form of parrying dagger wielded in the offhand, and is funnily enough, the name of Combat Rogue's Mastery back before Legion Outlaw change.
It's funny cuz it sounded like u saw warlock tank as a concept that's not new to u but Shaman tank was a weird concept, as for me Shaman should've already been able to properly tank and Lock tank came out of left field
9:31 - not sure why you said "weirdly" about shamans getting tanking runes since in vanilla they had plenty of talents to help tank as a shaman and abilities like earth shock causing threat and rockbiter weapon helping to cause threat, but was just an unfinished playstyle overall so it's nice to see the runes to help fill in the gaps just like protection paladins xD
I prefer the way it used to look (Dark Apotheosis In Mists of Pandaria), and without harvest life glyph its gonna make me a bit sad, but I do agree. Gonna be fun.
Reading these tunes too quick, you misread a few of them. Slow it down, make sure you read it all and don’t say it does something incorrectly. The rogue tanking rune isn’t changing blade FLURRY into a tanking ability, but buffs the new blade DANCE ability, which is increased parry chance finisher, and adds a damage reduction to it similar to righteous fury or defense stance. Between the eyes doesn’t increase AP, it’s damage is increased by AP. Also the shaman hybrid rune, ancestral guidance you read out wrong. It doesn’t increase the healing done to nearby party members by 100% if the damaging target has flame shock, it coverts your healing done into 100% damage to your last flame shock target. Warlocks lake of fire rune doesn’t just increase pet damage to targets, but also your damage, however ONLY fire damage… there for mostly Imp and what would be Destruction abilities.
@@Niterayde That won't ever happen. Buffs are group wide and there are widely different strengths and weaknesses. And thats a good thing. The ultimate concept of "bring the player not the class" means that EVERY class is copy paste but different colors. You wouldn't want that
Id love it if they add Dual Spec, im will roll Paladin Tank and Druid Tank, but it would be awesome if i can just switch to DPS or Heal easily. Warlock Tank also looks interesting so i might try that .
Runes are swappable any time out of combat so that will help to allow you to have multiple play styles as well. I know they did mention at the very least decreased cost of respec
thats fine but what can i do with runes for skill that are only obtainable in a certain talent tree? You need to respec to have any benefit. @@madbuddha4587
All these new abilities with their aoe and dots sound like hell if you actually need to cc some mobs, for example in raids. Everyone can be that multi-shot hunter now? But I guess the content will now be so easy that it does not matter? Would be a big downer.
Redoubt already exists in classic as demonstrated there 🤔 aegis is essentially the TBC version of Redoubt, which is why it won’t stack with classic redoubt
Personally I think not giving Horde Paladins (Blood Elves) and giving Druids, shaman specific traits will create a bigger faction imbalance in favor of alliance.
@@Shiftlinkage101 Not sure what streams you are watching that say they are going Horde but from all the big ones I watched they are are Alliance. If the streamers you are talking about have small followings then that won't matter as they have little influence.
For the first time in my life I'm actually considering playing Alliance after seeing those pally changes. Ret is going to be a menace in pvp. Fuck why does pally have to be ally only.
In my head I feel that they could make a surprise and when we connect Pali would be available on an horde class and chaman on a Alliance class. Otherwise, I see definitely paly shine in pve but in pvp against mage / hunter even rogue maybe they have 0 mobility to close the gap. I don't think they will be as op as fuck as Mages or Warlocks
@@Thibrahimovic Isn't there some rumors like SoD is the start of classic + and that they will add high elves and ogres races to allow to have access to each class on each faction?
Hello, really hype by SoD as wild pvp addict :D. Thanks for the video, Just one thing though, On warrior section Friendzied assault doesn't concern dual welding but 2H weapons. It changes quite a lot actually and give single 2H weapon an advantage in pvp in my opinion. I hope they will add runes to warrior because it's really poor for pvp. I feel that we can't win any matchup that should be normally our main targets. Warrior need some love :D Thanks for the work and see you in game !
I am really excited about SOD. This is the most interesting version of classic that i ever seen before. Even more than LK, and this last one is my favorite one so far.
It seems a bit overboard but that is because we don't know the content we will be using these abilities in yet, if they add more content later then this is fine
Interesting about Paladin tank & ret changes. I'm interested in the holy paladin but you didn't mention it. Looks like I will be RET to level, heal in raids? OR I will go in as a Priest. Also, when it starts, will the game be listed in your "Live - Classic" games list along with the other classic versions (hardcore, WotLK)? I can find NO INFO on how to start this game?
rune system is a little too much and is going to make leveling and solo questing too easy. I liked how classes were good at some things and bad at others. it made them unique in vanilla and inkeeping with the roleplaying and lore. And rune system could even make some specs like prot warrior no longer viable... eg pally could be the better tanks with new changes. but its interesting and should be a fun experiment... im hoping this is the foundation to a classic plus. And is a testing ground to see what works and what doesnt.
Bro the way I see it, they are doing really many changes and when community feedback will come or after testing this they'll reduce and do something more serious with the collected data. If they want to test even more mechanics and playstyle in this seasonal server to make a classic + server with only la creme de la creme after that, well go for it boys ! :D
See Id agree with you that its too much, but after playing Project Ascension for many years, going back to classic "class" era is so boring to me. This actually makes me excited for Classic + / SOD It's definitely going to switch up the meta, which why wouldn't that be a good thing. Playing the same class for countless years and not wanting to see it switched up a bit is insane to me. It's not like they're adding completely broken spells/abilities or anything that is too far fetched. And if they turn out to be im sure they will adjust or replace. But the fact that this is a direction they're heading in is a complete W in my books. I've heard countless times from streamers that they'd love to see the meta changed and classes become more viable - they add stuff that would do that and everyone goes ape shit and everyone seems to follow suit. a little off topic but just thought it was funny - ohhh leveling is the best part of classic don't increase the exp --- "hey, can anyone help me mob tag" call them out and they say "well I've done this so many times i just want to level up faster" streamers just say stuff for the attention and views, these changes are going to be awesome for classic + especially with new content on top if it. Going to be the changes you never knew you wanted.
Shaman's tanking is finally here, they were actually meant to be tanks during the alpha phase of WoW. But not sure why it never worked out - would have been nice if they could tank with a two hander like Blood deathknight do.
Now my question for warriors as a warrior main is later down the road does frenzied assault account for when we unlock titans grip because that would be crazy
Is it me or does this give hard Retail vibes? :D I mean most classes will now be tanking and healing (some possibly should have been like this from the beginning...but lets say rogues tanking? o.O). The whole "selling" point of vanilla was that of it being not overly convoluted. This looks pretty convoluted to me.
This is completely different, Specs are tanking and healing that never have in the history of WOW. This is way beyond retail, I think the classic wow team is experimenting and I think it could be amazing. if you dont like it being "convoluted" they arent touching the classic era servers or hardcore servers.
@@ghostfish2399 yeah then why dont they just make a new game!!! Retail felt convoluted so people tried classic. People got bored of classic (naturally, besides nostalgia it is just DOA) and they want something more. It is not really "beyond" retail, it is speed running towards retail. If this is their answer to more content, then it is a very lazy, quarterly figured based approach. Unless you are happy of spending your ever valuable currency which is time, on below than mediocre services/games. Personally? I would rather have something good.
You were talking about rogues getting buffed as horde because of windfury, but you forgot that druids now essentially have aura effect windfury too. So alliance rogues will be fine Edit: oh yeah, and the Homunculi is pronounced "Hoe-Mun-Queue-Lie"
I’m gonna be honest, some of these changes worry me. I’m all for making specs that were janky or unviable before actually work, but it seems like they are making every class be good at everything, and that feels like a betrayal of classic to me. I think different classes should have different focuses.
This isnt even close to true and is a total non starter. Not every class is going to be good at everything. To even make this statement is moronic honestly. Youre making it out like EVERY class can do everything and thats not even remotely true. Did you watch any videos on SoD? Or did you come straight to the comments to regurgitate what all the other brain deads are saying?
Lmao, mage being able to heal (and with the badass bronze dragonflight-style time manipulation magic at that) is the coolest shit ever and literally the reason I'm going mage in SoD, and you gotta throw in that people find it 'cringe'. Like holy crap you guys can take your absolute abject terror at the prospect of ever even being CAPABLE of healing on a 'dps class' and shove it, this is the coolest shit ever. As is Lock demon mode tanking, hell yeah.
Oh, wow! They might be adding redoubt to paladins!??!? Thats awesome since they already have it.... ffs. At least check the forums before making a useless video.
I’m confused by classic plus. Is this only in vanilla? Not bc or wotlk? In the sense, if I want to do paladin and do classic plus, should I never upgrade them to bc or wotlk so I can stay in classic plus? Is there bc and wotlk plus or this is all specifically vanilla?
It is an isolated game mode parallel to other iterations of classic. You won't transfer your chars to tbc or any other expansion and there is no such thing planned for anything but vanilla.
I be very few people here realize that blizzard has definitely ripped this from Project Ascension private server. Wonder how much they paid out the devs of PA for their source code for class designs.
What is the point of everlasting affliction? Unless they change fundamentally how snapshotting works you literally just save the gcd for corruption lol.
It would be great to know whether any of this stuff is actually increasing subscriptions or more likely just keeping existing addicts in the system? Also, it is sort of ironic that #changes in the form of Runes will now lead to Blizzard doing nerf and buff patches as players discover new OP combinations and exploits and others whine about how they are at the bottom of the DPS charts, which will make it more like the original WoW. Since they don't seem to care about gold farming and bots it would be nice if AoE dungeon farming was brought back, but that is probably too much to hope for.
ALSO, as far as the warrior glyph goes, “frenzied assault” increases attack speed while wielding TWO HANDED weapons. Not dual wielding. Therefore, rather than making dual wield more powerful in pvp, this is designed for exactly the opposite: to make 2h more viable in pve.
the next passive right after that was a dual wield passive that gives 10% physical dmg and MS buff...
@@Trickstini what does this have to do with anything? That’s the “single minded fury” rune. Entirely separate from “frenzied assault”. Meta read off the frenzied assault rune, and stated that it was for dual wielding, and pvp, when it blatantly says it’s for 2h, and would obviously therefor benefit 2h pve (this was literally added as a talent in later expansions to do just that). So my previous comment/correction is still dead accurate. Also, I don’t make the corrections to be a Dick. I’m a long time supporter of meta, and he’s actually supported my meme builds by shouting me out. Just trying to help get the proper info out there for people 😊
this will be a total failure, its way too retail-ish. everyones so powerful and can do anything and everything. no class fantasy. GG. stick with turtle wow
@@SuperBranFlakezno
They are supposed to be tuning the dungeons/mobs to account for this, will find out on the 30th I suppose.
Another great video from MetaGoblin thx for that.
For those of you looking for a specific class, here arte the timestamps:
Druid: 1:38
Hunter: 3:05
Mage: 4:38
Paladin: 6:07
Priest: 7:00
Rogue: 8:04
Shaman: 9:20
Warlock: 10:23
Warrior: 11:48
Thanks man
Originally, mages were healers as healing used arcane magic. Paladins were the only ones that followed the light, and the light was a power that came from inside themselves and not from the Naaru. I've still got all the Warcraft RPG books that were cannon before wow, and all arcane magic had addiction properties that eventually would corrupt you if you failed too many checks. It was pretty cool.
interesting
My favorite part about Homunculi? Listening to streamers struggling to figure out how to pronounce it 😂
Seriously how many people ain't watched FMA?
@@DIEGhostfish most of humanity
It is pronounced ‘Tyler1’
Ho-mawn-cue-lie
Ho mon kewk lie😅
Great, now I want to play every class.
With the leveling phases being around a month and half long and 25 being the starting cap, you should have plenty of time to level them all!
I like the missing chunks of vocabulary being interpreted as rude words, so funny. Do love you though Metagoblin, best video of this type so far.
Main gauche is not just French for left hand, it's also a type of weapon or weapon fighting style with which the combatant uses a short sword/long special dagger (in their left hand - or rather, in the hand that isn't their predominant hand, as the predominant hand will be holding the main weapon) in order to disarm their opponent, or parry, or get in some cheeky extra jabs, etc.
Glad stance😮please let’s this be the glad stance from WoD that was by far the thing I loved most from that expansion dpsing as a prot warrior with massive shield slams
I loved Glad stance PvP, especially with Spell Reflection and Shield Slam removing buffs.
I play disc on retail and usually heal on classic. Kinda interesting arcane mage getting atonement style healing via runes.
Didn’t know people still play retail. I got a refund when I saw why they call it the DRAGon isles
I be trying the healing arcane spec. I love support roles
"Main Gauche" rogue ability is basically in French which simply means "left hand"
A "maddening poison" that creates threat would be a nice thing (I mean, creating more pain than doing actual dmg would be a way to create threat). a stackable dot like the bleed effect of druid in wotlk.
Finally, Resto Druid will have something to do when not needing to cast heals. I always wanted Resto Druid to use a wand, now we can cast Wrath with no mana cost. Im loving it!
Sounds busted. I love it.
this will be a total failure, its way too retail-ish. everyones so powerful and can do anything and everything. no class fantasy. GG. stick with turtle wow
@@SuperBranFlakez Keep being a negative andy, no one gives a shit
They will probably remove tree form again... I'm mad about it... if you want to dps as a resto druid just change form then pop back into tree form... it's like og stance dancing
@@Sathinrah I don’t like melee combat, and I want something that doesn’t take away my healing mana. So either a wand or a free wrath is perfect for Resto Druid.
Not to be that guy but you said frenzied assault was for dw. But it's actually for 2h war
hunter has always been my fav, but some of the additions to other classes makes them very tempting... damn druid getting amazing stuff in SoD
All the lone wolf stuff for hunter really makes me want to play one for the first time
Also laughed heartily at main gooch
i wasnt that interested in wotlk classic nor hardcore, but now? this is really interesting
So basically I need to make 1 of every class. Thanks fam.
The biggest issue with a shadow priest in classic is going oom. I don’t see anything here that’s going to change that.
I dont think this is going to be anywhere near balanced. Its just going to completely flip the meta in a way that will make the game feel fresh.
Shadow form isn't unlockable at 25 anyways. There are likely to be future runes to update this when it becomes a viable playstyle
@@ghostfish2399 this remind me of how in MoP everyone was overpowered but it was still fun in pvp .
I bet they will get vampiric touch from runes at 50+
You read AG from shamans wrong @10:00 . It converts the 25% damage done to healing. THEN it converts all of that healing as EXTRA DAMAGE to the target with flame shock
dont want to be that guy but...
When you explain the rogue talent just a flesh wound you have your information wrong, you say blade flurry is remade wich is not the case, blade dance is an added spell that synergize with just a flesh wound to tank from the leg rune slot.
doubled checked the datamining there is no information about remaking blade flurry
and...
you say frenzied assault is dual wielding when its 2 handed.
Dang so many abilities being added I kinda forgot how basic vanilla was
Looks like feral druid will be viable. Yet I remember when feral druid was made briefly viable at the very beginning of Burning Crusade, only to be nerfed back into heal bot only status in patch 2.0.10. Waiting to see if Blizz pulls the same shtuff in Season of Discovery before giving them anymore money.
No one cares.
It’s pronounced “huh-monk-you-lie”
I have always wanted to Rogue tank, and now I can, brings back FF11 memories lol
Great video! 🥰 Just to let you know about the "Main gauche" rogue runes, it is French and it means "Left hand". 😅
But its not refering to the literal translation. A main gauche is another name for a parrying dagger held in the offhand.
Hey meta. I’d just like to add that the rogue poisons on horse side maybe not being viable because of windfury, is an irrelevant argument anyway, since, as you stated, druids are getting a windfury ability now too. So it would be just as irrelevant on ally side now too. Which leads me to believe, they’ll probably Uber buff the poisons, or change how wiffy works.
The druid ability doesnt interfere with poisons. So neither horde or alliance rogues need to worry. Shamans will probably use the threat reducing air totem instead of winfury in raids.
@@roffe8751yea this exactly
They confirmed in the Blizzcon streams you can benefit from WF with poisons on
Does anyone know what Player Frame UI addon he is using @4:24 in the video? I'd really like to have that!
I need this too
I would love for this to turn out that at the end of season of discovery we get a brand new expansion, with Ogres as a playable race 😊
think i have been seeing this every now and then for 10 years now xD
Classic+; fuck more retail xpacs
SoD hype! SoD hype!
FYI, Main gauche talent means « left hand » in french
Nice recap
I think what MANY of us want to know is WILL THEY HAVE FIXED MANA for most classes? I love Shamans but they're downright useless in classic due to crap mana cost scaling. Are they confirming any changes to the classes outside rune-based stuff?
I'm a bit worried for resource management as well. Imagine if the armor doesn't get upgraded much in terms of stats, yet we get so many more abilities. It could become a 1-shot festivity in PvP, and an oom fest in PvE.
Issue is they are removing class identity and removing the things that makes classes unique like now hunter get Blessing of kings.......
Main Gauche ---> in french --> Left Hand
---> An ability that use your left hand, yeah
And it pronounce goche
Yup, its a term commonly used for a form of parrying dagger wielded in the offhand, and is funnily enough, the name of Combat Rogue's Mastery back before Legion Outlaw change.
Main gauche is better said the first time than the second. Its french and means left hand.
Flagellation is french too. Slef whiplash
It's funny cuz it sounded like u saw warlock tank as a concept that's not new to u but Shaman tank was a weird concept, as for me Shaman should've already been able to properly tank and Lock tank came out of left field
9:31 - not sure why you said "weirdly" about shamans getting tanking runes since in vanilla they had plenty of talents to help tank as a shaman and abilities like earth shock causing threat and rockbiter weapon helping to cause threat, but was just an unfinished playstyle overall so it's nice to see the runes to help fill in the gaps just like protection paladins xD
exactly what i was thinking bc warlock and rogue tanks are way more weird if you ask me lol
Nice vid. Can't wait to play back Metamorphosis Dark apotheosis spec. It was deeply missed.
I prefer the way it used to look (Dark Apotheosis In Mists of Pandaria), and without harvest life glyph its gonna make me a bit sad, but I do agree. Gonna be fun.
Reading these tunes too quick, you misread a few of them. Slow it down, make sure you read it all and don’t say it does something incorrectly.
The rogue tanking rune isn’t changing blade FLURRY into a tanking ability, but buffs the new blade DANCE ability, which is increased parry chance finisher, and adds a damage reduction to it similar to righteous fury or defense stance. Between the eyes doesn’t increase AP, it’s damage is increased by AP.
Also the shaman hybrid rune, ancestral guidance you read out wrong. It doesn’t increase the healing done to nearby party members by 100% if the damaging target has flame shock, it coverts your healing done into 100% damage to your last flame shock target.
Warlocks lake of fire rune doesn’t just increase pet damage to targets, but also your damage, however ONLY fire damage… there for mostly Imp and what would be Destruction abilities.
I really like how the paladin just gets what It should have had all along
lol reading these skills is hardcore mode for streamers/tubers
It's interesting. People aren't talking about Shamanistic Rage as a means for Elemental shamans to keep their mana up.
"Hybridization" was how they fucked the game up the first time.
Paladins already had redoubt. Still excited to see all the added ret and prot features!!!
One of my biggest worries with SoD is losing class identity. I hope the team can keep that
It's ok you can play classic era
Classic is not perfect. I want changes in classic. A lot of QoL and classes changes can make it much better then Vanilla.
This will give us more “bring the player not the class” hopefully
@@IamZukes Lmao, very reassuring for their brand of V+, bud.
@@Niterayde That won't ever happen. Buffs are group wide and there are widely different strengths and weaknesses. And thats a good thing. The ultimate concept of "bring the player not the class" means that EVERY class is copy paste but different colors. You wouldn't want that
Id love it if they add Dual Spec, im will roll Paladin Tank and Druid Tank, but it would be awesome if i can just switch to DPS or Heal easily. Warlock Tank also looks interesting so i might try that .
Runes are swappable any time out of combat so that will help to allow you to have multiple play styles as well. I know they did mention at the very least decreased cost of respec
thats fine but what can i do with runes for skill that are only obtainable in a certain talent tree? You need to respec to have any benefit. @@madbuddha4587
Idk if we should get dual spec but maybe just do away with the cost of respec. Would still like a reason to visit my class trainer now and then. imo
All these new abilities with their aoe and dots sound like hell if you actually need to cc some mobs, for example in raids. Everyone can be that multi-shot hunter now? But I guess the content will now be so easy that it does not matter? Would be a big downer.
You cant do a guide. We know nothing about it. Based on lvl 25 with no playtesting?
Redoubt already exists in classic as demonstrated there 🤔 aegis is essentially the TBC version of Redoubt, which is why it won’t stack with classic redoubt
Dude I can't wait for this. Already put in time off of work. :)
“Main Gauche” means “left hand” in French and is a term for an offhand dagger in fencing throughout history. It’s not rude lol
I can’t believe how fast they are rolling these things out
Personally I think not giving Horde Paladins (Blood Elves) and giving Druids, shaman specific traits will create a bigger faction imbalance in favor of alliance.
Clearly they should give druids paladin specific traits as well to balance things out
A lot of streamers have already said they're rolling Horde(at least for NA), so I doubt it since a ton of people just follow their favorites.
@@Shiftlinkage101 Not sure what streams you are watching that say they are going Horde but from all the big ones I watched they are are Alliance. If the streamers you are talking about have small followings then that won't matter as they have little influence.
"Main Gauche" means "Left Hand" in french. Love to see more Rouge.
For the first time in my life I'm actually considering playing Alliance after seeing those pally changes. Ret is going to be a menace in pvp. Fuck why does pally have to be ally only.
In my head I feel that they could make a surprise and when we connect Pali would be available on an horde class and chaman on a Alliance class.
Otherwise, I see definitely paly shine in pve but in pvp against mage / hunter even rogue maybe they have 0 mobility to close the gap. I don't think they will be as op as fuck as Mages or Warlocks
@@Thibrahimovic Isn't there some rumors like SoD is the start of classic + and that they will add high elves and ogres races to allow to have access to each class on each faction?
Frenzied Assault increase attack speed for 2 hand weapons not dual wield tho. :D
What are the addons that hes using when he is playing mage? It makes the game look alot smoother.
Hello, really hype by SoD as wild pvp addict :D. Thanks for the video,
Just one thing though, On warrior section Friendzied assault doesn't concern dual welding but 2H weapons. It changes quite a lot actually and give single 2H weapon an advantage in pvp in my opinion.
I hope they will add runes to warrior because it's really poor for pvp. I feel that we can't win any matchup that should be normally our main targets. Warrior need some love :D
Thanks for the work and see you in game !
I am really excited about SOD. This is the most interesting version of classic that i ever seen before. Even more than LK, and this last one is my favorite one so far.
It seems a bit overboard but that is because we don't know the content we will be using these abilities in yet, if they add more content later then this is fine
Why would anyone want to be better mele.dps as a hunter though. Surely you roll a hunter because you want to use a bow and arrow at range
Ho-Monk-u-lie is how Homunculi is pronounced.
Interesting about Paladin tank & ret changes. I'm interested in the holy paladin but you didn't mention it. Looks like I will be RET to level, heal in raids? OR I will go in as a Priest.
Also, when it starts, will the game be listed in your "Live - Classic" games list along with the other classic versions (hardcore, WotLK)? I can find NO INFO on how to start this game?
Great video as always Metagoblin!👍
Love the vids bro. Keep it up!
The pronunciations are wild in this video 😂
Pretty sure he was an English major in college too.
rune system is a little too much and is going to make leveling and solo questing too easy.
I liked how classes were good at some things and bad at others. it made them unique in vanilla and inkeeping with the roleplaying and lore.
And rune system could even make some specs like prot warrior no longer viable...
eg pally could be the better tanks with new changes.
but its interesting and should be a fun experiment...
im hoping this is the foundation to a classic plus. And is a testing ground to see what works and what doesnt.
Bro the way I see it, they are doing really many changes and when community feedback will come or after testing this they'll reduce and do something more serious with the collected data.
If they want to test even more mechanics and playstyle in this seasonal server to make a classic + server with only la creme de la creme after that, well go for it boys ! :D
See Id agree with you that its too much, but after playing Project Ascension for many years, going back to classic "class" era is so boring to me. This actually makes me excited for Classic + / SOD
It's definitely going to switch up the meta, which why wouldn't that be a good thing. Playing the same class for countless years and not wanting to see it switched up a bit is insane to me. It's not like they're adding completely broken spells/abilities or anything that is too far fetched. And if they turn out to be im sure they will adjust or replace. But the fact that this is a direction they're heading in is a complete W in my books.
I've heard countless times from streamers that they'd love to see the meta changed and classes become more viable - they add stuff that would do that and everyone goes ape shit and everyone seems to follow suit.
a little off topic but just thought it was funny
- ohhh leveling is the best part of classic don't increase the exp --- "hey, can anyone help me mob tag" call them out and they say "well I've done this so many times i just want to level up faster"
streamers just say stuff for the attention and views, these changes are going to be awesome for classic + especially with new content on top if it.
Going to be the changes you never knew you wanted.
im planning on going warlock, from what we saw at blizzcon play testing it looks like ret pally and shadowpriests are going to be nuts
I have been asking retail to have more roles to classes for over a decade... FINALLY!
combopoints on rouge instead of target is all i want
THE VIDEO I HAVE NEEDED!
Shaman's tanking is finally here, they were actually meant to be tanks during the alpha phase of WoW. But not sure why it never worked out - would have been nice if they could tank with a two hander like Blood deathknight do.
Now my question for warriors as a warrior main is later down the road does frenzied assault account for when we unlock titans grip because that would be crazy
Main Gauche is french for Left Hand btw.
Druids are the new WF'ers so Rogues can use Poisons, since it's an aura not an on-hit and it allows shamans to use other totems so it's a win win
This will still put Horde even further behind than Alliance in PvE. You need 8 Shamans with totems vs 1 Paladin buffing Salvation
I hope they add fireball healing/dps -- aka Cauterizing Flames... Overall, I'm excited that Blizzard is actually stepping into this arena.
Is it me or does this give hard Retail vibes? :D I mean most classes will now be tanking and healing (some possibly should have been like this from the beginning...but lets say rogues tanking? o.O). The whole "selling" point of vanilla was that of it being not overly convoluted. This looks pretty convoluted to me.
This is completely different, Specs are tanking and healing that never have in the history of WOW. This is way beyond retail, I think the classic wow team is experimenting and I think it could be amazing. if you dont like it being "convoluted" they arent touching the classic era servers or hardcore servers.
@@ghostfish2399 yeah then why dont they just make a new game!!! Retail felt convoluted so people tried classic. People got bored of classic (naturally, besides nostalgia it is just DOA) and they want something more. It is not really "beyond" retail, it is speed running towards retail. If this is their answer to more content, then it is a very lazy, quarterly figured based approach. Unless you are happy of spending your ever valuable currency which is time, on below than mediocre services/games. Personally? I would rather have something good.
you havnt even played it yet so how can you say if its good or not@@tkismik8146
@@tkismik8146 Classic is DOA? It was mega popular when it came out. Have you been on Era lately? It is incredibly busy.
Talmbout ever valuable currency looool bro you spent days writin that shit block of letters
You were talking about rogues getting buffed as horde because of windfury, but you forgot that druids now essentially have aura effect windfury too. So alliance rogues will be fine
Edit: oh yeah, and the Homunculi is pronounced "Hoe-Mun-Queue-Lie"
I’m gonna be honest, some of these changes worry me. I’m all for making specs that were janky or unviable before actually work, but it seems like they are making every class be good at everything, and that feels like a betrayal of classic to me. I think different classes should have different focuses.
This isnt even close to true and is a total non starter. Not every class is going to be good at everything. To even make this statement is moronic honestly. Youre making it out like EVERY class can do everything and thats not even remotely true. Did you watch any videos on SoD? Or did you come straight to the comments to regurgitate what all the other brain deads are saying?
Do you think they will implement any race changes? Such as undead with sword skill or dwarf with axe skill etc? would be sweet
Warlock and shame seem really good now I just don't know what to play between them lol
Isnt Reboout already in classic? He said its a tbc talent thats getting added or is it just getting changed or am I just wrong lol
Are they balance changing normal talents or changing those aswell or is it just the runes being added on top?
Lmao, mage being able to heal (and with the badass bronze dragonflight-style time manipulation magic at that) is the coolest shit ever and literally the reason I'm going mage in SoD, and you gotta throw in that people find it 'cringe'. Like holy crap you guys can take your absolute abject terror at the prospect of ever even being CAPABLE of healing on a 'dps class' and shove it, this is the coolest shit ever. As is Lock demon mode tanking, hell yeah.
Oh, wow! They might be adding redoubt to paladins!??!? Thats awesome since they already have it.... ffs. At least check the forums before making a useless video.
I’m confused by classic plus. Is this only in vanilla? Not bc or wotlk? In the sense, if I want to do paladin and do classic plus, should I never upgrade them to bc or wotlk so I can stay in classic plus? Is there bc and wotlk plus or this is all specifically vanilla?
It is an isolated game mode parallel to other iterations of classic. You won't transfer your chars to tbc or any other expansion and there is no such thing planned for anything but vanilla.
Do we know if mindflay will still have the stupid 20 yard range or the extended 40 range ?
I be very few people here realize that blizzard has definitely ripped this from Project Ascension private server. Wonder how much they paid out the devs of PA for their source code for class designs.
I think this is the dumbest thing blizzard is done. It’s classic for the retail players who can’t play classic…
"Main Gauche" for rogue is a french word meaning litterally "Left Hand"
Gauche can be pronunce like "Goosh"
Main gauche is a parrying dagger held in the off hand. Thats what it means here. Not the literal translation.
I wish you a healthy gooch sir
Homonculi: Spoken as: Ho-mahn-que-lie. Derived from fantasy tropes and spells, such as D&D's Homonculus
Guys, is this new season of discovery gona move to the new expansions? Or is just one game and thats it?
Frenzied assault is a 2h rune.
I'd be more happy with a crackdown on BOTs
What is the point of everlasting affliction? Unless they change fundamentally how snapshotting works you literally just save the gcd for corruption lol.
“What classes should we play now with the new season?”
… Mage, next question.
man pugging raids is going to become so much easier & less stressful lol
8:05 why poisons are more viable in theory only for horde? How is windfury works in sod?
It would be great to know whether any of this stuff is actually increasing subscriptions or more likely just keeping existing addicts in the system?
Also, it is sort of ironic that #changes in the form of Runes will now lead to Blizzard doing nerf and buff patches as players discover new OP combinations and exploits and others whine about how they are at the bottom of the DPS charts, which will make it more like the original WoW.
Since they don't seem to care about gold farming and bots it would be nice if AoE dungeon farming was brought back, but that is probably too much to hope for.
Lots of words to say absolutely nothing. Good job.
the attack speed for warriors is for 2 handed weapons not for dual wield...