This is Why People Love Season of Discovery so Much (Classic WoW)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Season of Discovery is here and it has taken the entire Classic WoW - no, the entire World of Warcraft - community by storm! Players are loving diving back into Azeroth yet again, finding runes, crates, and enjoying all the "endgame" content that Season of Discovery offers, in the form of the Blackfathom Depths Raid, Ashenvale World PvP, and more.
But why do people enjoy Season of Discovery so much? What makes this new game mode associated with Classic WoW so popular with the community? In this video, Nixxiom goes into why exactly he feels SoD has done so well, in that it recognized the spirit of Classic World of Warcraft and built on it, rather than trying to change it into something new.
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Yo, Nixxiom, what's your conventional deadlift at currently?
@@mcfarvo I did something to my wrist maybe 2 weeks ago, and it's been in a good bit of pain ever since. So I'm not able to do too much deadlifting at the moment. Most of everything that I'm doing is related to just the use of my legs alone. But as it stands now, my deadlift is at 425 lb. You can see the video of me doing it on my Instagram account, Linked In the description.
GDKP BFD is something I never expected to see ngl 😂
The level cap is also making a difference. We are playing the lower end dungeons as a core playstyle.
Whoever decided to cap it at level 25 is honestly an absolute G. Turned it away from some sweaty grind-fest into something that can be savoured and gradually expanded. I doubt I would have returned if it had been straight to 60
it caught flack when it was announced but I loved the idea. Clearly it's worked out well. @@user-go7mc4ez1d
That and I don't have to feel in so much of an rush. I'm trying all the classes to see what I like.
Exactly my thoughts too. Love the staggered release and level caps and the idea I don't have to rush to 60. Hope WOW + Becomes a whole new WOW experience for people who don't want to go near retail again. @@user-go7mc4ez1d
This single change made the game so much bigger, since you can now deep explore the low level content, proffesions, gear maxing, and more!@@user-go7mc4ez1d
One of many reasons I love it - we actually have time to explore and enjoy these dungeons. Instead of Wailing Caverns being something to do just to get through the leveling, it's an integral part of the game right now.
Yeah I'm busy with my 6 kids and 3 jobs. This is my kinda pace
I was thinking the same thing. So many things are trivialized just by leveling quickly, even in classic. I remember leveling blacksmithing and laughing at the crap that was given to me. Now I see how precious my bracers with +1 spirit are.
This, making us farm places we prolly skiped or didnt give 2 thoughts about
This is so true.the lvl cap as a great idea.also so many people are trying alts and helping each other. Reminds me of the old old days 😂😂
Started since beta wow and to this day I’m still playing. Both retail and SoD. I love this game
One of my favorite things about Classic WoW is the elite world quests. The ones where you basically need to put together a 5 man group to complete. The elite Redridge quests come to mind, specifically. They're like a mini instance. Love working as a team in WoW.
I cant stop playing! Im new to classic and I have been neglecting my retail game since launch.... Its awesome to play in a relevant environment.
WoW SOD is the best thing for people who have never played WoW before.
Every expansion should have some thing for new players and something for veterans, WoW has forgotten about new players for 10+ years till now. A game will stop growing if they don’t keep trying to entice new players, which is what Blizzard went through.
Veterans have also said WoW feels like a “casual fun victory lap”.
For me it's also that we don't have flying. I love that i need to see every zone every part of it every tree.
Feels like I'm really there it's immersive and i love it.
this is crazy logic... so you wont use a mount or flight paths either?
@@steadychasingmoneybands6213No, this is crazy logic. A ground mount is a ground mount, flight paths are flight paths, not flying mounts.
One thing I like about sod is that I can tell my friends to play with me and they actually want to instead of having their eyes glaze over when they realize it would be 100 hours before they can be caught up to my main character
New players love it too. Me and 4 friends just got into it and Classic is just so vibey and chill to play with friends. The level cap keeps things at a reasonable pace for all of us too.
It really feels like rediscovering classic. The level caps are absolutely genius, I am doing content I never did before like going to Shadow Fang Keep as alliance or Wailing Caverns. Going early to ratchet to get my runes, discovering new items, seeing transmorphed mobs in Elwynn Forest and much more.
SoD must continue to Classic+ and take the OSRS route imo. This is absolutely brilliant and I am in love with classic all over again
Love the feeling of multiple end games ahead of me. Still so much left to do and see.
The level cap was genius. You get to explore all of the low level areas fully instead of rushing to 60. It also bakes in BiS tiers you can achieve and "beat" that phase.
Genius from a profit perspective yes. The only reason they did it is cause they were in a rush to get the next "new" thing out, and they knew people would quit within a week without this fomo factor, and you guys are eating it up and praising them for it. Mission accomplished blizzard
I love the much slower pace of it all. Level banding is a really good as you can experience everything at a certain level has to offer. People would be 60 already and hitting molten core if it wasn't for level banding. It adds longevity to the season. I have run more WC, SFK, DM in this season that i have since i started playing in vanilla wow.
This was a cool listen. You definitely took the words out of our... brains when it comes to the philosophy we went with when concepting Season of Discovery. Thanks sir!
Is this the real aggrend
if you read this, im little concerned that youre increasing new overpower items while garbage junk that was garbage even during vanilla is left there, as we will progress to 60, this is becoming more and more aparent, especially in 5man settings, where ppl hunt the one bis item, but the 90% rest of the items are just awfully designed/worthless
@@Quitarstudent I can understand this sentiment but the weird, sub-optimal stat items are important in original wow. They are sometimes interstitial upgrades that aren't perfect or even all that good, but are upgrades in the moment until you get something better. Also, not ALL items that are new are going to be optimzied perfectly, also by design for the same reason.
We don't ever really want to get to the point where every item is Main Stat/Stam/secondary/secondary. That model works for other versions of WoW, but that really just is not vanilla. That means there will be oddball items that aren't great, but it'll also make those truly great items even more exciting when you do get them.
@@aggrend tanks for reply, but i dont see how they are important at all.... people will prefer 30lvl item with +9 spell power over item that increases base stats (for example speaking for casters), maybe in vanilla where everything wasnt optimalized and most of the people didnt even know what to look for this was acceptable, im not talking about goofy items, but the number of items is huge but usable are only a few, i simply wish we could have more diversity in op items (like i woudlnt have to farm scholo for a wand, because similar wand drops also in strat or UBRS or something)
also i hope that future brings dungeon sets (tier 0, but all t1 t2 tiers) to some reasonable level, especially for casters, they are cool, but useless for most of the classes and its a damm shame (i can imagine some upgrade like youve done with the crafted items now in SoD, that would be cool af)
I hope it progresses into new classic era content to truly create classic+ in the future.
I am loving playing with tanking as a Shaman. The Mana burn is odd on a tank, but SoD just feels so good!
Very few words, but I will say this. It’s nothing short of amazing. I’m absolutely hooked and even thinking about playing while at work sometimes.
Same 😂
As a very new member of this community and wow world , i can say that i have never experienced something like this before. I did play many many mmorpgs for long times, im a mmorpg veteran but i cannot believe i havent tried wow experience before...
yeah wow was the most popular game of existence for a reason back in the day.
It’s nice to level in brackets like this so end game always feels in reach and the community is close in power.
Love the small level diff keeping folks together
I think it’s actually an incredibly cohesive community right now. At least on Lone Wolf. There seems to be a lack of generally cancerous behavior. Don’t get me wrong - some people will always be dicks, but SoD feels awesome.
agree, my casual wow homie is around lvl 20 rn, instead of him just needing to hit max to do anything with us we can still dungeon together and something is in it for everybody
casual noobs in sod thats why i stick to era
@@MC-nt7jz you know Trump plays classic, right bro? He knows what's good.
i love that level cap is 25! makes it to where everyone gets to play around the same pace. makes it feel less like you are being left behind. SOD is fucking godly! im having way to much fun lol
I am enjoying it way more than I do retail. It feels like a bigger world somehow and so much more immersive.
I don't know, there are a LOT of sweaty players. As usual, the players will destroy a game faster and more completely than the devs.
I kinda hope they stick with 10 man content. Maybe I’ve just gotten my fill of large raids, but it’s just logistically a lot easier to do 10 mans. It’s been a nice change
Ya I love 10 mans. 25 mans are pretty much impossible to keep a consistent roster
I only found out about season of discovery 10 days ago And I just absolutely love that I can easily catch up with everyone and still see the max level content!
I'm having a lot of fun with Season of Discovery. It has given me a heightened appreciation for the QoL adjustments in retail.
Interesting? I feel as though the QoL stuff are what detracted from the game. And SoD (and classic in general) highlight how much those messed up the experience… like rfd in wotlk…. Completely ruined the community….
@@tainicon4639 For me it's the minor QoL sort of things like area autoloot, or autoupdate spell ranks kinda stuff. It's nice to not have to make sure all your flypoints connect, but it's not a dealbreaker kind of thing.
@@MSinistrari autoloot… yeah I agree. But I think spell ranks and training are such a better system for character fantasy. I need to go back to a city and train and stock up. And I also like the flight paths being earned. Makes the world seem bigger!
@@tainicon4639So you're the user that turned WoW into dog tier, nice
@@Justnothankyou132 what? I prefer the game to be an MMO not fancy skin for some moba.
I haven’t played wow in a while but I heard about this and was curious. Thanks Nixx, this was exactly what I needed.
No way I'm trying to gank you in this video at 5:55 😱
The fact that as horde I have to do Deadmines has something very special, even tho my friends are redacted and always get killed by a crocodile in STV its so much fun to be able to explore something I would have never done without the level cap. Good job blizzard
SoD is freakin great
I wasn’t sure about all the added stuff to class’s
But wow, this feels good and right added stuff in the clsssic environment keeping it classic
Seeing people interact and world PvP in random areas it’s good
Truth be told doing the third iteration of the Ashenvale event late night yesterday felt awesome. Now there's negative incentive to afk at final boss - you actually do earn more for doing more. And that's great.
What the crates do for professions is brilliant and exactly what we needed. There needed to be a sink to move those items out of the economy and give them an actual value. Would love to see more tight game design like this.
Level cap is so good and many classes get a lot of abilities that make them feel full.
One thing i was looking forward to at 25 max are trying different classes and making alts. However a lot of the runes are just such a pain to get there's no way I would do it on an alt.
Yeah that’s what is keeping me from making an alt at the moment lol
depends if you need the particular rune, but yes, i feel like some of them are too annyoing to get, epsecially if u need more ppl for it
I love the runes, but my favorite part is the level cap
Now Blizz just needs to add more stuff to Classic+. Like profession specific runes, player owned housing, new community events, etc.
No. Stop it please, dont add too much crap or they will ruin it
@@terrodar19 It would be called classic+ for a reason. Stay on og classic servers if you don't want anything new.
Its the psychology of a refresh. Everyone starting on a new playing field.
I honestly hope they keep cap at 25 for at least 2-3 months. Gives everyone time to raid, to get 25, and to figure out the main they plan to continue playing on till the end. Originally I wasn't gonna resub to WoW just cause of personal reasons.. but seeing how my friends are playing SoD and how much fun they are saying it is. I gave it a go, and am kinda hooked.
Hell no lol. 6 weeks maximum. The 40 bracket will be much more fun with mounts and way more things to do
Nah give it a few months 6 weeks is to low@@sydsweiner6516
For all the time i put into wow way back in 2006- 2011, i never REALLY played Horde characters and im using SoD to do that. Im exploring the low level zones i never really played before and feeling an entirely new aspect of the game on top of the changes to my favorite class. Im not even 25 yet and im feeling that "addictive" drive to keep playing and exploring meanwhile interacting organically with other players. Its kind of magical
Yup, I’m loving it too. Taking my time with it and not going online to find anything.
Having a max level at 25 makes a good opening for new players, and it doesn't feel as bad of a grind.
A huge part of it for me is the rolling level cap. The fact that I can take my time makes me feel like I actually stand a chance of keeping up with the community
But CAN we take our time? thats the question. from what ive heard its a 3 month season, wich means 3 weeks 1-25 - 3 weeks 25-40 and so on. this seems designed to run away from u FAST!
BAHAHA not a 3 month season dog
they said 4-8 weeks per phase and there are roughly 8 phases
@@jossonbelluschi3517 Ok. thats sounds better than my first impression. Hope you're right 🙂
I added a new friend to my list in years after killing murlocks then going after Avengers shield.
i have been enjoying everything in season of discovery and its been amazing
It's the game we fell in love with almost 20 years ago.
I started in 2005 vanilla as well…been playing on and off ever since (my biggest gap of not playing was 4 years while I was in college) but yea there’s something fresh and exciting about season of discovery
The “every time you get a new bag” remark hit me.😂😂
Shaman tanks are to much fun
The crates are so elegant, my hope is revived in blizzard's developers understanding what makes classic good. Though I kinda wish the metamorph rune didn't have huge camerablocking wings :P
The Rogue’ing has been solid so far
Nailed it, dude. It's all about the community and the community is ALIVE right now!
One of the biggest wins that I think blizz had with this was choosing to let level 25 the max level at first.
I will say that it solves so many problems that classic wow had such as people dropping off early as well as breaking up the grind for every max level, I personally think that levels want to 30 classic wow are some of the best content in mmos hands down however in my personal Journey maybe because I wasn't able to socialize as much but everything between 40 and 60 was just a giant log with 50 to 60 being a genuinely bad experience for me is the only reason why I got to the end being that all of my friends were at max level having fun without me so it felt like if the grouped with me it was a chore for them and if they didn't it was a chore for me with it being completely disheartening to Quest for 2 hours and only have gotten three bars of exp for it at most it genuinely felt like a job that I wasn't getting paid for
However with season of discovery it is so easy to enjoy myself as I'm playing the fun parts of the game and when I tell my friends that they can play with me if they want they aren't immediately put off by the The Grind or the feeling of Burden because I have to make another character to play with them
Seeing a Zygor ad in 2024 is wild to me. No hate to Nixxiom or Zygor itself... I just remember trying to convince my parents back during TBC that I needed this addon. To see the same product/company still kicking 15ish years later is crazy. Nostalgic to say the least. $10/month is pretty absurd for an addon but it must have a lot to offer if it's been around this long. Maybe I'll try it, maybe not... just wanted to share my thoughts
am I the last remaining retail player who still can have a new story with each of my retail chars, and it's even better because timewalking allows you to complete your own personal story in any order, it's difficult when you go a long time without finding good gear, i still experiment with talent trees, gear i find, etc, and have a grand time. leveling is my FAVORITE thing to do in retail, more than the endgame. Retail is even more fun due to all the additional things you can do along the way that aren't in classic, + i enjoy having 3-4 full skill bars of skills/macros to use. And nowadays solo is better than ever at endgame, I play retail as an RPG with my own story each time like Baldur's Gate 3 since 2004 to now and still play daily.
1000% Right! Thanks Nixxiom!
I love that they made literally new specs for classes like Tank Shaman or Tank Rogue it makest hings more interesting and makes builds more varied.
I have really been enjoying SoD as Hunter and soon to level my Warlock too!
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Shoulda stamped this at :01, didn't pop up until 3:00 😢
Im having a blast playing on my steamdeck ❤ it feels so good
I'm with you! Started in June 2005!
What happens to your characters on SoD when sod ends?
I love love love SoD! Our whole guild is having so much fun!
Grrrr why i am always busy irl, missed classic relaunch and now im missing this. Hope its still going in 3 months time😢
I stopped playing WoW awhile ago, but even this and hardcore are tempting me to return lol
Im new to wow and have been having tons of fun is Season of Discovery. The problem Im having right now is that I dont know how to get into the raid or dungeons because I dont know how to find a guild
I played wow from 2004-2010 with several breaks in there. Took 13 years off and returned to retail in 2023. Played 10 months and after the latest season had come out, I realized I would never be able to catch up because I like using every character I create and it’s impossible to keep them all geared or relevant in retail basically. I felt like I never really captured that lost excitement from my early years playing wow. I thought I was quitting for good (again lol) and decided to just check out SOD before my subscription ran out in a few weeks. Well I immediately found what I was looking for when I came back 10 months ago. Wow felt like wow again instantly to me, even with runes which I love by the way. I restarted my subscription again lol, but this time I’m only playing SOD, I won’t be going black to retail. To be fair retail has some good things about it and it is visually superior to SOD in every way but it’s meant to be like that, I’m fine with that. But with SOD I’m getting my nostalgia fix again. Loving it!
Played classic beta, then classic through to tbc, season of mastery and hardcore. I just LOVE classic wow.
However since having a kid and working long hours I thought I would give this one a miss. But watching streams and videos for SoD I got major FOMO.
I started playing again and really enjoying myself, but I've become that boomer Dad player who only gets an hour or so per day (if I'm lucky) but that doesn't change anything, I have really been enjoying this new phase of WoW. It's great to see these new ideas in play. The runes are great! In general, it seems like the playerbase is happy in this current time.
Let's see what the future holds!
One of my favorite things about SoD is that Blizzard did what they should have done from the beginning, they grabbed some of the coolest shit they ever created for each class in future expansions and added them to Classic in an acceptable way. Chef kiss, Blizzard. Jewelcrafting? Might work. Scribe? Sure. The effin barber shop? Please.
I am with the crowd that believes that from Cata onwards, the game went downhill, however, that doesn't mean that nothing of it can be salvaged.
I entered the cave in Silverpi e Forest to get the Master Channeler rune and a 25 Warlock was inside waiting for low levels to help them kill the elite. Gotta love it.
One thing I would love is that sod gets Dragon flight graphics and then it will be perfect
Level cap is a genius idea. It also saddened me how much of the world and levelling content players skip while rushing to max level and now max level is 25 and DM and WC are top instances lol and because of the hidden runes and secrets it makes sense to explore the world. And topped with sh*t ton of new skills, loot, new raid. This is just perfect classic plus formula. They absolutely nailed it, I was 99% sure they wont do smth like that. Obviously some balancing and tweaking required and things like rogue tank or mage heal are questionable but I am enjoying at is back in 2019.
I like that they made the level cap lower to begin with, makes it way less of a time commitment. Since i basically just wanted to check it out and not really grind, it felt super accessible.
I’m with you on 99% of this, but I love that they’re giving us the option for more solo content in retail. Grouping up to fight an elite or get kill credit for a quest enemy is one thing, but when you’re new to / not great at the game, retail dungeons are super intimidating-not because they’re particularly difficult, but because no one communicates. The whole group will mount up without even saying hi and just sprint through the whole thing because they’ve already done it a dozen or more times. If you don’t know what you’re doing, it’s so easy to get separated or get KO’d from a boss attack you didn’t know about, and then you’re dragging the rest of the group down.
Love the social element in classic, but even there, I’m nervous to try anything but dps in a dungeon. And retail doesn’t have anywhere near the same culture of cooperation that classic does. Solo runs will let people try things out and get decent gear without being overwhelmed by the social pressure.
I remember somewhere around September or October 2006, I was 4 years old and my Grandma thought it'd be a good idea to give me World of Warcraft, been playing off and on ever since. Good times.
I remember back in the day in burning crusade, I would carry low levels in dead mines or wailing caverns, I remember seeing a lot of high levels helping looevels. Now almost everything is solo
I find it funny how at Blizcon SoD was almost like an afterthought. It was introduced by an obscure dev no one knows or cares about and the reaction was lukewarm. Whereas they introduced the next 3 expansions vis-a-vis Chris Metzen and it had great reception. Yet SoD has had an even bigger launch than Classic did in 2019. At launch in Classic I could at least level by killing mobs. This time servers were taxed so much even that was hardly possible.
Just came back to classic, love SOD
I've never really experienced classic wow (was on EQ), I played retail in about 2020ish for a few months, may try this discovery thing out :D
Everytime I play the game the last few days, it reminds me how bad retail is in terms of that MMO feeling. Its sooo good
Worried about now. You need to bring out your death night and how his love for vanilla makes a game so wonderful
Im not so sure SoD is all that popular. It cMe out a week ago and livimg flame EU is a ghost town alreasy
I love you Nixxiom, but I have to ask...how much did they pay you to make this video?
Awesome video mate! Keep up the good work
Then you get those people who rushed to 25 in hours...and blight the game and forums
I started playing WoW when WoW waa only 6 months old, and I still play WoW.
What I love is how challenging it can be pulling 3 mobs and actually almost dying to them if not done right. It’s challenging, but not so challenging where you want to quit the game.
The level cap cut the 1 big chunk of game into more interesting small edible pieces. It awesome to explore the world of lower level in deep.
I started playing in 2006 or 7. I was in the 7th grade. I remember my uncle played and got me into it. I got my dad into the game. I stopped playing shortly after MoP. I started playing retail again about a year ago. I enjoyed the transmog but eventually got bored after unlocking some of the allied races. After playing classic again I haven’t looked back on retail since, especially with SoD. I never realized how much Blizzard really messed up on retail till I started playing classic again.
Can't wait for Classic Cataclysm ^^
Really nice to not feel pressured to follow guides or anything you can just have fun. Also now having the ability to have multiple classes tank is awesome.
Iv never played pvp and i thought i would run out of stuff to do real fast. Ohhboy how wrong i was. I even started doing ashenvale and wsg to minmax my gear and damn... Pvp is actually fun in in SoD we have 8 full raid groups in ashenvale today and it was morning in EU it was very coordinated we used discord to manage people and i even got into raidleading the pvp raids. Man my 8hour job shift feels like 12hours because all i want to do is play more. I havent had this much fun in years and as a retail player who didnt even play original classic i did not expect i could have this much fun playing a game again.
Not going to search through all the comments. But the rep tied to the boxes is also a huge reason to do them. That unlocks items and runes you can buy.
Cries in shadow priest its been rough
bro really took one out of the destiny play book and said "the friend game is the end game"
Your wand skill has increased to 2. Gotta love it 😁
Absolutelly agree with you.. what i love is a game of progress .. so you play and invest a lot of time into your character.. and have results.. while in retail.. you start to play invest some time.. and you are on same gear as everyone else.. which just kinda sucks.. there is not reward.. and if you do not play.. dont worry catch-up mechanique is right next patch.. so you can have IL you dont have now.. proffession or anything makes no sense at all... basically classic does not lock you to do what you want to do.. but retails stops you .. and prevents you from being too far strong.. (why?) I remember myself and a friend in dungeon going it over and over like 20 times until his HOJ dropped.. it was so much fun! Now .. can anyone name at least some parts of really epic items out of head (in retail)? or any great trinket name? or going same dungeon with buddies over and over just for fun or for one specific item ? - NO
Because it is boring just to gain max level and grind, since next expansion it will be obsolete, but im discovery, people work together to find out about runes and location, it is refreshing, it is no longer about max gear or max level but more customization, and indeed like you say, it feels impactful
SOD brought me back to WOW. Something I thought I would never ever do again.
I Haven't touched Retail since BOA and Classic I played for a month in 2019 and then stopped (I had a terminally Ill sister I was caring for so didn't have much spare time)
Trying to get into retail now just seems like a chore, Classic was great for the first month, but everyone just rushed to 60 and then stopped.
SOD with its level caps and staggered content release will keep me coming back and im already enjoying it more then Classic.
I just hope this is the beginning of a WOW + or "Alternate Universe WOW" where the Blizz team do things they couldn't 10+ years ago and alter the terrible lore from Cata on wards. Give us 18-24 months worth of content in this Vanilla + and then maybe move onto a TBC +. Give a whole new generation of people a way to start WOW fresh again too.
The slow pace of SOD is so nice for a change
it actually is so much fun, even when playing casually on a desolate server named Chaosbolt EU
SoD has been absolutely perfect in the first phase.
Shoot guy, thought I was subed!! Here you!!