Black Square Dukes for MSFS - Start Up - Just Flight
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
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In this video we show the correct procedure for Starting the Piston and Turbine versions of the Duke. .
The Turbine and Piston versions will be released in early April and there will also be a bundle package available on release where you can save money when buying both together.
The Dukes promise to be the most advanced aircraft yet from Black Square, offering a myriad of amazing features that will truly set it apart from the majority of competing MSFS add-ons. The term Study-level is often misused but certainly not in this case. Full product specs and a selection of screenshots can be found at the product pages, links below. You can also download the manuals and a document that outlines the differences between the two versions from those product pages.
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A quick update regarding the release date of the Dukes - Due to the delay of SU15 from Asobo/Microsoft we are also going to need to delay the release of the Dukes unfortunately. Best laid plans and all that. You can read more about the delay and the reasoning here:
www.justflight.com/articles/black-square-dukes-development-update-april-2024
So our apologies, we hope to get things moving again just as soon as possible but as things stand we're reliant on news and a firm release date for SU15. Thanks for your patience.
I don't mind the delay, a wise choice. I am willing to accept more awesome technical videos as compensation ;)
That's it. I'm never leaving my house.
LOL….thats how I feel sometimes. Im 50, and run a business, and its hard not to stay in my office and just fly half the day away 😂
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Whoever designed and coded those tablet UIs deserves a raise! Those are the most beautiful interfaces I've seen in the sim! Asobo could learn a thing or two from those UIs lol
FINALLY a true machine simulated to absolute perfection build for engineers and electricians! So many people get bored by just role-playing pilot and flying through the skies with nothing to do and to check up there for hours because nothing deep and technical is really simulated in all the other planes - and therefore nothing can go wrong and nothing has consequences or damages an engine or other components.
There are even psychologically rather interesting forum threads about this phenomenon when simming succumbs to let the autopilot fly for 15 hours and in the meantime leave the computer desk to go for a walk go shopping and spend time with the family and go to sleep. Because why even bothering to check anything inside the cockpit it is 100% foreseeable that nothing ever will happen in all flights, every single flight will always be the same no matter if it´s -45°C in the Arctic circle or over a desert area, every engine start is the same, no component ever will fail, nothing ever matters not even machine parts red-lining for hours will ever fail, nothing ever happens..... This is simply because all the deeper systems are never simulated in other airplanes, barely more than in arcade flying game like Ace Combat is (from a technical point of view) going on there under the nuts and bolts of the engine covers in most planes.
But here we get a fully simulated airplane with all machine components fully simulated to the core. Every electric circuit cylinder or turbine stage is showcased on that EFB and we get hundreds of possible failures. All parameters and temperatures in the cockpit constantly need to be checked carefully - this attention to detail keeps every flight always extremely interesting and fascinating, and brings back the challenge and thrill and the feeling of really controlling and monitoring such a complex machine.
I absolutely adore Black Square because it is the saviour of GA-flying :)
I never even cared about GA-flying until Black Square came along with the wonderful Baron and Bonanza which was the first time ever a GA-machine was really brought to life and got made interesting challenging and realistic. But the Duke is absolute next level and the most sophisticated airplane ever simulated! Pure awesomeness, thank you so much for this HotStart Challenger quality contribution to MSFS!
Because Nick is an engineer :D
I agreee with you fully. Study level is not about random failures it's about abplane being fully immersed and connected with its environment. Or in easy terms: If I fuck up, I want to have consequences!
This, I need to feel like something is happening mechanically and electrically, otherwise I get bored.
Black Square aircraft are a work of art. Achieving this level of details and realism is simply breathtaking.
You guys are really putting A2A on their toes. I’m a big fan of both and gotta say black square is the real breath of fresh air in flight simming. Really glad to have both of your companies around
Rivalling A2A with all these features. Fantastic work!
Holy cow, we now have an A2A twin piston and twin turboprop! Black Square is out of this world!
As a real world student pilot I'm obliged to purchase this for trainning purposes!
not so fast, A2A planes flies beautifully, like the real deal. We need to see how this one does. Remember how twitchy the smaller Pipers from JF were? So yeah.
THIS is more of what We want!! Does it have persistence??
Jeez, this is flat out ridiculous detail. Black Square will always get my money.
Everything is looking fantastic. If it's in the same league in terms of flight dynamics as the Comanche and the Da42 then I'm totally getting this Duke.
Yup, flight model is the thing for me.
Looks like my Comanche will be taking a rest in the hanger.
you know the detail is off the charts when the reciprocating/turbine infographics have the correct colours of blue for AVGAS and yellow for JET-A, would have been so simple to just use one colour for fuel across both...
Brilliant and marvelous detail! Day one buy for sure!
Dude….this is so cool! I thought realair’s duke for FSX was the bombshell but this thing blows it away! Amazing job guys!
Absolutely blown away by the detail. Really can’t wait for this now!
And here i was thinking the A2A Comanche would be the peak of msfs GA
It is, and will continue to be, this isn't out yet and A2A has set that bar ~very high. The only thing that A2A hasn't done is make a twin GA with a turbocharger. They have made turbines and turboprops for the USAF though.
FREAKING AWESOME!!
Day one buy for me.
Been dying for a study level twin turboprop. Day 1 buy
Per usual the more video I watch on the new simulations you've brought on for your newest plane the more I want it. I wasn't even mildly interested in the dukes when announced. I have to experience them now!
I'm speechless. This is just fantastic. Thank you so much to the team for making this so detailed, I'm going to enjoy it a lot.
Hell yeah, I'm so ready for this.
Once again JF strikes again with another phenomenal product coming that’s worth the money
I now realise how 'poorly modelled' the RealAir version was for FSX ;) Well, it was great, but this is something else. Hoping for a decent flight model and as much persistence as possible - or at least some options for the user to choose their own preferences in that regard.
Is Black Square still just a one-man team for the core elements? Incredible.
agree; all this is cool but the flight model is what i really care about
Ok dude, we get it, just take our money already
WOW, WOW, WOW amazing can't wait!
I thought the complexity of GA planes couldn’t get anymore advanced but was I wrong. A must buy!
this looks incredible
Merci pour ces explications très détaillées. Cet avion est un régal.
Amazing... A2A has entered the chat
I want to see this for TBM 850!
We should make a petition 😂
it s already planned, the tablet should be transposed on other BS aircraft ;-) check JustFlight comments on previous video
Day 1 buy here and I'll end up getting both.
Another useful and informative video. These are going to be fantastic add-on aircraft and are going to be very satisfying to learn and to operate. I guess that their release cannot be very far away now.
Jerry
April
@@wingcommanderjetson5660 I am like a child waiting for Christmas !
Jerry
So if you have a tailwind or headwind, how do you re position? Should be an option for tow bar like A2A did.
So, I suppose that packet of chewing gum I left under the seat in the early 80s has also been modelled?
Think I need to take the 310R for a flight. It’s not gonna get much use once these release…
The problem with that 310 has always been the weird feeling on landing. It just drops.
@@CCitis I think you have to consider that you (or your peripherals) have a problem. I have never encountered that phenonemon.
Nah, pretty commonly discussed. It likes to just plunk down... you need a ton of power on final with flaps and gear out. Not realistic to the real airplane where you need some power. Believe me, I am running all honeycomb, good PC, VR... have probably 1700 hours in the sim, and I fly small airplanes IRL@@RobKohinoor
Thanks for this video full of information! Maybe be a bit overwhelming for me, but I plan to come back to it to fully grasp this tutorial and assimilate everything
Additionally, I appreciate the attention to detail, especially the sounds!
Thanks for the praise. Appreciate they could be a bit overwhelming to begin with, there are plenty more to come, but at least they'll always be here at your disposal as and when you want to delve in and check things out.
Its a sim lol, if you toast a motor... reset and try again.
I love starting a pt6
Am gonna go cheating on A2A comanche when this comes out. 2 different engine types on one plane? With that level of realism?
I love A2A, but the Comanche is low and slow... we need some speed!
Graphical systems displays is one thing but the real proof will be in how it flies. You can have all the shiny chrome you want but if it doesn't fly right, it's just a hangar queen.
This has to be one of the most advanced OTT features an aircraft has ever had. Amazing work!! This is on top of my wishlist. How does the FOD actually work? Because MSFS doesn't have visible particles, so it must be built on with the aircraft?
I suspect it may know which surface type you are on (tarmac, grass, gravel), so then it's just a function of prop parameters (and maybe wind speed & direction) as to how much you'll ingest. Using typical values based on real world data to simulate risk of damage over time.
My wallet isn't ready but I am!
Amazing work! Do you have any updates regarding the Avro RJ and the Fokkers?
See, this interests me because it's not a default aircraft with the systems bolted on. It's built from the ground up. I think I will likely get this.
Do you have an actual app for an iPad that has these features for the turbine Duke?
How is the most promising and fascinating airplane that was ever made, doing? We finally have a date for SU15 (30th of April) does that mean we get His Highness The Duke of Blacksquare a few days later? :) Never before was I so close of owning my own airplane, these Dukes will be so realistic there is no difference anymore between flying the real thing or the Black Square simulation except feeling the g-forces during turns and turbulences.
Just the VR headset is missing for the best and most realistic owning-my-first-private-aircraft experience that ever was!
It will be after SU15 releases, correct. Quite how soon afterwards remains to be seen though.
Bro what did you make? This is absolutely bonkers 😮
was the airport you were at KSWF?
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Will this, or your other mods be compatible with MSFS 2024 when it comes out?
What about making B-36 with it's 6 insanely complex piston engines and 4 more jet ones.
We will need two additional brains to fly it LOL
I got the turbine duke and it dies after 10s, all lights go off, engine goes off, and i can't do anything
'Starts on runway'
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Will the Analog Caravan or Analog King Air ever receive an update or improvement?
They will yes.
Awesome ❤
That's really awesome!
But is it possible to switch all that failure behaviors off for doing just a relaxing flight without problems? 😂
Will the delay of SU15 affect the release of Dukes?
I guess nope ... since the beta test started few week ago, should be able to run even without the last sim update, and in the official msfs forum, the day of 8th of april isn't debated that much by SinewyDolphin74
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Quick update - the tutorial videos will start appearing next week on the Just Flight UA-cam channel. There are many of them, covering all the key areas of the Dukes. Prior to that we’ll pop a ‘First-Look’ up. That will probably be tomorrow. I’ll post here once that’s done.
The pricing for the bundle will be attractive. All to be revealed, probably next week on that. We’re still set for a release for the Dukes w/c 8th April. Thanks."
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S-T-U-N-N-I-N-G !!!!
Can starts be performed without the use of the Tablet?
of course lol. Tablet is there only for visualization of systems, etc.
@@Pe11ePD does that tablet with its graphical interface exist in the real world aircraft?
@@dmuennich No, it's for us simmers to understand how engine and various systems work. It's a nice learning tool.
@@Pe11ePDawesome... It's super cool. Thanks for the reply!
When comes the f 28 on Xbox
When it's ready is the short answer. Xbox is proving a headache for us currently especially the S series. Not great when it comes to running highly detailed Flight Sim add-ons. We are working on it but can't give any timescales on this just yet, unfortunately Daniel.
Please - Friendly Skies Film - Needs a comeback ( like there is not enough to do ! )
Do not encourage him! 😃
Please tell me the release isn't dependent on the release of SU15. I've seen over a dozen UA-camrs posting new first flight and review videos over the past two days but Microsoft keeps delaying SU15. Everytime a video comes out I run to the store thinking it's been launched but.... "Coming Soon". Feeling more and more annoyed with UA-camrs getting to fly it while we have no news about the release.
If the videos that come out are previews, which these are, then avoid running to the store as it won't be available. The streamers are using preview code to supply you coverage. A method and mechanic we use for all our releases. It's not dependent on SU15 no but there was a serious issue that was only remedied with SU15 being present. We have worked a way around that for now, not ideal, but will work for all users, so expect a release soon. I'd give you the day, hour and minute if I could but just waiting for final testing to complete and a couple of things to fall into place and then we'll be ready to launch.
@@justflight Sorry, it was around 1:00am when I posted this, I meant to say "reviews". Elated to hear that it is not dependent on SU15 and you found a workaround. My heart drops into my shoes everytime Microsoft delays the update as I (and many others) are anxiously awaiting the release of the Dukes.
@@justflight BTW, I don't mean an up to the minute release announcement. Something like, "next week", "before the end of this week" etc would do. Then I can stop wasting my time checking the store twenty times a day and the disappointment everytime of seeing it still just says "Coming Soon..." 😁
How complex is this😮??
It's perfect.
Yes !!!
Honestly would like to see a noob start button for me tbh. Sometimes i just want to enjoy the beauty and flying rather than the engineering side of it. But will probably get shouted down on this comment.
On the contrary, there's something to be said for that approach. As flight sims have become more realistic, I try to carry out every flight to the fullest, but the effect is that I spend less time with the sim, because I now need a 1-2 hour window just to get a short 30-min GA flight in, what with all the physical control setup, pre-flight, warm-up and so on. Plus a little flight planning before all that. Satisfying, but sometimes it's worth flying the sim without a care or rules :)
@@Mustang242SqnEh, there's already a large of variety of aircraft that aren't to this depth
@@bird.9346Of course, including the default aircraft. But I wanted to back up the original commenter (who expected to get jumped on) that there's nothing wrong with wanting a complex aircraft, but having the option for a quick start for when you don't have the mood or time :)
@@Mustang242Sqn
And I agree. It should be perfectly acceptable to expect a simulated aircraft, or a real aircraft, for that matter, to complete a failure-free flight.
Lately, sim aircraft developers seem to have a fetish for "failures", purportedly to give simmers, most of whom have no real aircraft experience, exposure to how airplanes can "fail", in all the splendorous and/or catastrophic ways.
For people who are gluttons for punishment, that's fine - let 'em have at it. But having owned and maintained two different airplanes I soon learned that IRL, maintenance can mean months of downtime and many thousands of dollars in expense - not a simple click of the mouse. It's an unpleasant memory I don't need when I'm simming. I turn it all off.
@@Racklefratz thanks for an interesting reply, but I'm actually in the other camp. I want the 'realism', including the failure risks, because it gives me a reason to 'take it seriously'. Flying the sim without those risks makes it less interesting (for me), as I know nothing will ever happen (like driving a racing sim with no crash damage, or any other game with invincibility).
I have not had the opportunities you have had, so appreciate your view differs and rightfully so. I'm at a point in life where I could consider learning to fly, but it's a hugely expensive 'hobby' and would impact my family, so it shall likely remain a dream that I fulfil via MSFS. In VR, it's leaps and bounds ahead of all the sims I've flown the last 25 years or so, and will only get better! :)
While I really appreciate the effort that's gone into creating the engine model visualizer in this and the Commanche, I personally don't use them as I find them immersion breaking and unrealistic. You have put an enormous effort into detailed physics modelling of the engine, I personally would prefer detailed training/information on how to detect eg thick oil, fouled plugs, fuel at pressure, vapor lock etc etc using sounds and aircraft instruments. And then only refer to the visualiser to confirm my "real world" diagnosis.
A very small tidbit: when the fuel levers are moved the combustion of the fuel is instantaneous in this vid, in real life it rarely is, it can take between an instant to 2 seconds. Disclaimer: Never been in a Duke but have started other PT6 engines so if I'm wrong please disregard.
He was not trying to start the engine in that sequence. He was merely demonstrating the fact that the props cannot spin fast enough for a start, due to aerodynamic forces. Whether the engine 'popped' into life or not was irrelevent for that demo.
A2A has come to Xbox. Why not these guys?
Because it's not out yet?
@@ImpendingJoker Clearly, you're not understanding what I'm saying. 🤣
Can yall release the aircraft already my wallet is waiting 😢
why not recreate the Anologue C208 Caravan with this master piece engine sound?
This Beechbracft Duke gives you the real feelings NOT that analogue c208 sounds 😜
Please Fix the Spinners. They don't spin
The propeller spinner does not spin after the engine is on. It becomes a static texture. I fly VR exclusively and this brakes the immersion.
I think it is better this way, as the simulator isn’t that good in rendering fast spinning objects.
@@Jannik_Stein they could have an option to turn off or on. Static It is bad when someone has good hardware to handle it.
@@MrImperativeoz Looks fine to me: ua-cam.com/video/lu5qkpQQuuM/v-deo.htmlsi=BmA03Y5GGJH_5Jef&t=322
You shouldn't be able to see a chrome spinner moving irl if it is installed correctly and the snout of the crank is true.
IRL you can't perceive that spinner moving whatsoever. They're not going to make it all gamey just for VR users, after they've made everything else this realistic.
@@Jannik_Stein MSFS does just fine rendering the fast spinners in the COWS DA40