You cannot be forced to take accountability, all that shit does is push an endless amount of judgement hoping that if you attack him enough the bad feelings you cause will get him to change. It doesnt work. Shame does not make people concious, it makes them hurt it makes it impossible to be present. We are a social species, hurting others is only possible when we are in pain. I shouldnt have to tell you that berrating shane in the hopes that he will submit to your crushing expectations of goodness and health will not encourage him to regard you. He cannot fit into your ideals, and he shouldn't focus on appealing to people who only want him to suffer, who dont want him to have a livelihood. That is disrespectful to himself but you do not want him to respect himself, you want him to feel how you feel about him, you want him to dissappear you would kill all that he is because you do not value his personhood, his experiences, everything he is. What you people strive for isnt growth, isnt accountability, its character death. "Just stop being racially insensitive things" when he is not sensitive to those things. "Stop sexualizing children" when he is a sexualized child. If you have any genuine desire for accountability you need to be present with where he is at and LET him be present in his flaws so he can grow.
@@delightfulblueberries7405 sadly his audience is mostly younger people and don’t understand the severity of what he did plus they’re more easily manipulated..
There’s no, literally zero, way he told his therapist everything he did. I’m SURE he sugar coated what he did admit to, but I’ve dealt with people like him and they will never admit even to themselves what they do wrong, at least not entirely.
People also forget that his mistakes weren't just 10 years ago. He made mistakes last year...like...we gonna forget he took advantage of people, supported racists' behavior, and belittled victim of SA? No thanks
Yeah, if all his dumb shit was done back when he was like 19 a hundred years ago, then I'd say yeah we should move on from hating him. But the dude just KEEPS DOING DUMB SHIT.
@@oliviapitstick-elzey5655 wait it's anti-sametic?? How??? My apologies if this comes off rude or anything, I'm just not aware and would like to be! (◍•ᴗ•◍)
@@boomitscocosucker Most conspiracy theories fit into two categories, anti-semitic (illuminati, lizard people, Q, ect.) or something that a government actually did (like MKA ultra). When ever someone tells you there is a shadowy group behind the scenes making it all happen, they’re implying that it was Jewish people who did it. There is a really long history of this that is way to much to type into a youtube comment so if you actually want to support Jewish people like me, I suggest you read into blood libel and the protocols of zion (a fake document used by conspiracy theorists).
Its called feeling guilty. He is negatively affected by what he did too. I don't know what it is. Its like you don't want people to feel guilty, yet you want an apology/accountability for said guilt. All the people who watched shane's videos had the chance to not or turn off the video. But shane whether on or off videos has to live with who he is and what he has done. If he doesn't know how to do better, he'll make the same mistakes and he's afraid of that. Then he feels bad about himself, thinking he just a bad person and can't make anyone happy. Shane has EXTREMELY low self esteem. He is a people pleaser to an unhealthy degree, and so the fact that people hate him for doing something he thought people would enjoy, kills him inside. I have no doubt in my mind he has contemplated ending his life over it. He likes making videos, but is worried about possibly hurting more people. Something he loves to do, make videos, is hurting people. And that makes him feel bad, he feels really really bad. And regardless of how you've felt or been hurt, you have no right tell him he's not feeling something, his feelings don't matter, scoff at his guilt, etc. How he feels and what he did with that, is how people got hurt in the first place. No human being is able to take accountability for the harm, if they are not allowed to process what causes it, first. "You're bad. Stop doing it" is just not enough. Even though he feels bad for hurting people, just knowing he did doesn't tell him anything about what he was doing specifically, why he did it, or how he did. He did not intend to harm people, therefore specifically looking for a racist person who hates black/and or other race people, a sex offender, etc. is not going to lead him to what he was actually accountable for. To Human beings the worst thing you could be is harmful. They often feel worthless for being unable to take care of themselves or others. They feel inherently wrong. Unworthy, unlovable, and dangerous to everyone, even those they love. So, yeah it is important how bad his racism makes HIM feel. You don't get to use these people's problems, their bad feelings to victimize yourself, then just discard their humanity. They are human beings. People say "We're human, we all make mistakes" "Nobody is perfect" until its a person no one likes or cares about. You hold these people to even higher standards than being human, you know they don't measure up, then you punish them for not meeting your unreasonable expectations. You leave no room for love, campassion, learning, and growth, then you punish them for being stuck. That is cruel. And according to good people, you guys apparently know better. So then why are normal people so abusive to human beings? If you care about people why do you cast away their suffering whenever its convenient for you? Because they're bad? That's a traumatic fantasy. They're hurt, they haven't been cared for appropriately, they either don't know how to care, or are so sick and hurt they don't feel good enough to do so. Morality that doesn't entertain our humanity is less than useless, it is detrimental. It denies the fact that hurting others is indeed harmful to the individual doing the harming.
@@pastelpanda7309 every single apology is glossing over stuff and addressing the LEAST incriminating aspects of his actions. every single time he does this sad boi demeanor and makes it about himself. It wasn’t until this last /weak/ semi-apology that he stopped using a dissociative tactic of “I don’t know who that person is anymore”. And finally admitted that no, that was him and a part of his past. So that’s growth. But it was just lumped in with another one of his series. Which, by the way, what growth? In the haunting series, Rylands sister let him know they were on top of a native burial grounds. Then said they didn’t wanna make it about the natives, and immediately after they heard native drum sounds. Then tried to make it about paying respects to the small minority of white settlers wrongfully killed by the natives. Cuz that’s not as bad as making it about the natives, which were the victims of the larger massacre and witch-hunt. And then they joked about it. Where in his videos has he apologized SPECIFICALLY to the girls who thought it was normal to have inappropriate boundaries with older men cuz of his content. Where has he verbally addressed having young girls twerk for him on tiny chat or omegle. Or addressed having his fans send out of pocket selfies. I hope he has apologized to HeyyoShawna for using her as a prop for x amount of years. No, he has not addressed the worst of it, because his newer audience isn’t as aware of these things. And if he glosses over the stuff, most people are just as dismissive and don’t do research. Do I believe people like to dogpile and make hate mobs on people in an unproductive way? Yes. You see it all the time HOWEVER, he came back with relative success, albeit not as many millions as before. He has very mixed reception. He does still retain a following. Now, as someone who used to consume his content, his “suffering” was never a result of something beyond the consequences of his own actions. So if he wants to get all in his feels about the stuff HE did, why tf would I feel bad. He should feel what he needs to, and THEN grow. We don’t want shallow apologies. You are very correct. However, he didn’t actually apologized for anything beyond broad strokes and vague remarks. Arguably, I legitimately don’t think he has beyond a superficial level. IMO he doesn’t feel bad because he hurt people with his racism. He feels bad because people think he’s an asshole. And if that wasn’t so, he wouldn’t be out there being a white man wanting to make a spoopy scary video on native burial grounds. Which, btw, was info he didn’t have to leave in the video. Mind you, he should be allowed to grow and progress. He has in the way of finally accepting that his past is his past and not a compartmentalized separate person. But as someone in their mid 20s, I’m so tired of the internet infantilizing this grown ass man in his 30s. I do not care how sad boi he is about dealing with the consequences of his own actions. Because he WAS harmful. I don’t give two damns about what his intention was. He harmed people and has put in just as much work actually addressing that harm as he has put into his haunted 3 part docu-series.
@@pastelpanda7309 this may be repetitive and i do apologize for that but my brain runs in a loop so if you wanna read, read. if not, cool beans. he doesn’t get to just sit here and feel “guilty”. if you watch the video he doesn’t show guilt, hes literally using all of this to get more attention and sympathy so he can go back to acting like it never happened. feeling guilty is NOT fixing the problem. truthfully, he cant fix the problem. he could however grow the fuck up and stop using jokes about suicide and controversy as a way to steer away from the problem. he needs to actually sit down, apologize and not come back to the internet. no one wants him back on here but his idiotic child fans who don’t understand the issues with what he’s done. while i do sympathize with the suicidal feelings/attempts he may have dealt with, that does not in any way mean he’s off the hook. i’ve been there and it’s hard and it sucks and it’s the worst feeling to have but it doesn’t change that what happened has happened and he needs to be a fucking adult and stop trying to make everything funny haha oops i fucked up for loads of kids on the internet.
in his apology video, he claimed he was willing to lose it all in order to make things right and yet he lost nothing, he should leave youtube permanently if he wants us to even believe he's apologetic
i used to watch shane dawson as a kid and i realise now that the entertainment in his content was entirely due to garrett watts and andrew siwicki which is so apparent in their own podcast bc those two have real chemistry and are genuinely interesting people and he was just making fun of them the whole time!! really glad they moved on and found success on their own
SAME!! i also liked morgan too. her and garrett were so funny together. but the way she still does these vids. it’s like,, ik she's ryland's sister and everything but still 😭😭 she could do way better than to associate with this
@@lordlandcandlestick3010 yeah i feel really bad for morgan bc the conflict of sticking by your brother and sticking by whats right must be really hard to deal with :(
@@ploopydiper yeah!! drew left much earlier than everyone else and i didn’t really hear anything about him until very recently compared to how soon he left and he also was much of a punching bag for shane and its very sad to see :(
"I went out and met great people" Glad he went out and met 4 more white people that would expand his echo chamber and reafirm his belief that his plataform didn't grow on the back of the estigmatization of people of color; truly a representation of the usamerican spirit.
Shane's money really helps Ryland and his family turn a blind eye to his actions. I get standing with your partner through thick and thin but the amount of red flags being over looked really has me questioning the people who support Shane and have him believe what he did was okay.
The first time I heard him just joke casually about suicide in his comeback video I felt physically sick to my stomach. What kind of self respecting person would try and suicide bait their fans into feeling bad for him all so he doesn't need to really address all the valid shit he was called out for. Not that I doubt he may have had some sort of suicidal episode during his break but to wave that around and joke about it to his fans is just awful.
@EmbleerHomba I feel like the ONLY reason people are mad about the casual suicide jokes is because of the incredibly horrible timing and the fact that it’s Shane. A lot of people who struggle with suicidal thought and depression do that. Like the literal exact same way he does it, too. The only difference is he’s supposed to be acknowledging all his bs and instead he’s making jokes and showing off live laugh love signs.
@@wieebb4139 There's a huge difference between speaking casually or jokingly about suicide ideation in your personal life (which is still bad and causes real harm, for you and those around you), and someone doing it on a large platform viewed largely by children in their first video back after extremely serious controversy, esp when that person has a long, long history of using these serious topics to garner positive public opinion where it isn't deserved.
i get joking about cutting, suicide, ed’s, and fat jokes as a way of healing, self defense or coping, but the way he does his just makes me feel sick, like the sheer amount that he does them and just….ugh.
@@wieebb4139 I'm not only mad bc it's shane, i'm mad that this grown man doesn't see how destructive those jokes are especially to people that already struggle with it being in a loop of triggering jokes never helps you get better (which he is apparently trying to do) and he is spreading this bs to his viewers only furthering this loop and making it seem like it's healthy and okay for context i've been suicidal for almost a decade and has attempted recently, suicide jokes only bring you down long term even if you feel better for a second after
@@wieebb4139 no. Threatening suicide to manipulate people is, well manipulative, that’s what Shane’s doing. People who have been suicidal don’t “joke” about it in that way. They don’t do it to get sympathy, the do it to cope and wouldn’t do it in front of millions of people who they could possibly trigger. If people do this the same way Shane does it, then they’re bad people too.
It irks me that he still refuses to acknowledge that it was himself that did those things, "I can't pretend that person didn't exist" its the refrencing of "that person" that bothers me, the further trying to create distance to himself.
Right!? It especially bugs me because he was a grown man when he did all that shit, like it would almost be understandable if he was a middle schooler and didn't really know how damaging his "jokes" were, but buddy was like fucking 25. He should have known better.
the fact that he literally showed clips of himself in blackface and still keeps the poster for his horrifying "too cool" movie are just a few physical examples of how he hasn't learned anything or changed at all
shane is the embodiment of "go girl, give us nothing" except that i dont want him to give us anything - really impressive that he managed to learn nothing within 1 year, personalitywise and skillwise. how come people who have less experience than him manage to do better videos, not hitting around the bush, expanding nonsensical videos to a 1h-long version. It just angers me and i have not enough english to express it >:( Honestly what was this 3-Part of Nothing? Just call it a vlog or whatever instead of conspiracy something.
I don’t know about you guys but I will be defending Ethan for accidentally unplugging the mic and I will watch his 9 part series on why he is sorry for it and his 12 part series on how the light died.
i literally cant listen to or look at shane without getting pissed off he just seems so FAKE like nothing he does in front of the camera seems genuine despite doing this shit for ten years?? i feel like the only time ive ever seen him genuinely emote on camera is when hes furious about something or making fun of someone??? but the thing is he wants to sell us this image of this candid, real, raw, “i thought about killing myself” and “ive learned nothing 😋” quirky image but it just comes off as forced and egregious. its so annoying. you shouldnt have to beg for your audience’s attention and trust like that. but he knows hes not likable otherwise. EYEROLL
I had a friend who used to watch Shane Dawson at the very beginning of his career, and they said he had a totally different personality then. In their opinion (and mine), Shane's totally faking everything.
He's got so many people defending him saying he's grown ect. Even if that's true he should've lost his large platform privileges. He's already rich he doesn't need it. Go make art in your office and leave everyone else out of it.
It’s ironic how he claims to have grown from being offensive and all.. yet his first video back is talking about a “spooky Indian burial ground” and joking about it 😬
That bit where he talks about himself in the past and is like "that's a different person" is so obviously him trying to deflect peoples anger as if they shouldn't be mad at him because he's a completely different person now
I’m sorry but the irony of your mic getting unplugged not long after you made fun of Shane for not having an external microphone is really funny to me… at least yours was an accident though
He does that prolonged shyt because he knows people are easily duped. Most of his fans are young and this is mean to say but young people are easily fooled. At least that's what Shane thinks. That's why he keeps stopping and not finishing his sentences. That's why he carelessly threw in the topic of suicide. He doesn't think highly of his young fans, he knows they will accept his shallow apology. And that's sad.
Exactly his analytics say most of his fans are 18 to 25-year-old men tf are u talking about dumba** kids nowadays don't watch s**t but fortnite Roblox and mrbeast
So sorry for this long reply and pardon my tardiness I've been contemplating on wether I should comment, but I do believe most of his fans are in there 20s currently. I also speculate that since those fans are now more grown that they probably grew up watching Shane's videos. They know what he's doing is wrong, but they don't want to believe it or perhaps they just idolize him for some reason. I can imagine that his videos helped people through some tough times which in turn maybe built an attachment no matter how horrible the jokes were/are. I wholeheartedly think that Shane keeps on doing these things because he knows he will have at least some people on his side no matter how stupid the excuse. I am in no way condoning nor trying to draw sympathy for Shane's fans, but Feel free to disagree with my statements as it is pure speculation.
I genuinely don’t understand his stubborn fanbase, like ppl say “they’re just young” but like how young can they be? I watched shane as a kid and was a fan a few years ago before learning everything, and I’m already 21. So like, how is anyone younger still standing by him?? Weird as hell
The "they're just young" card is BS in my eyes. Are they young? Probably. Are young people inherently so mentally incapable that they can't process the basic issues in Shane's content? I genuinely don't think so. It annoys me because while a part of maturation comes with age, most kids have more complex inner worlds than adults give credit, especially the adults too old to remember being a kid.
It's because fans who are older, typically leave when they learn this and new, younger people give him views. There's also old fans who just don't care.
to be fair, shane has genuinely always acted this way. its almost just weirder now because he's way older. like everything he says is supposed to be so funny and its not, but i used to think it was funny as a teen ya. he's just like, unable to be genuine,
I used to watch Shane during his "documentary" (if that is what we are calling it) phase, and I remember him discussing how he gets cancelled every few years and its just a part of his life, I honestly think he doesn't ever learn because he just knows to stay offline for a while and let it blow over. But the way he talks about it now, is exactly how he would back then. Saying things about how he finally doesn't care what other ppl think, how he has grown so much, while showing no growth and trying to gain sympathy and clearly showing he really cares if people like him or watch him more than simply creating content he likes to make and letting that speak for itself. His content does kinda rely on ppl liking him because otherwise you notice how lazy and poorly edited it is, so he kind of has to care what his audience thinks of him, he IS the content
Not only is his new content scrambled, unnecessarily drawn out and socially inept given his past. . . the fact there is new merch to memorialize this fast food production is in bad taste. Newsflash, Shane's character will always have a self serving agenda.
I mean you can joke about... like depression in general. BUT if you use your experience to glorify self harm or to use it as a shield against your own wrong doings that's where it gets fucked up
I like this take, it gives leeway to artists to make stuff that's resonate to depressed people without glorifying tragedy (or that's what I got from it basically)
as someone who has been suicidal for like 9 years and has attempted suicide at some point,, if there's one thing i learned it's that suicide jokes are truly never funny it might seem like haha it's just dark humour, but truly it just makes people uncomfortable, brings down the mood, is annoying to people who are suicidal being reminded about it and just generally making suicide jokes 24/7 only makes your thoughts worse, only makes you feel more like shit like trust me i've been thru it, once i stopped making suicide jokes and tried hard to surround myself with more positive stuff i've gotten a bit better
I get that it isn't a great thing to joke about constantly and it's inappropriate in most situations to begin with but as someone who's attempted etc I think suicide jokes are really cathartic. I wouldn't joke about it myself, I generally avoid even mentioning my own thoughts or attempts, so I don't know when or if it would be funny in a personal setting but in comedy and stand up I definitely think it's a topic that's ok and funny to joke about. Because it's something you can't talk about casually I think comedy is a good space to make yourself more comfortable with the memories (obviously work through your issues with a professional first) and kind of destigmatize it for yourself. Also, laughing at the silliness of some aspects is a nice way of finding community and feeling less alone while avoiding ideation or wallowing in dark thoughts. You obviously don't have to find that kind of comedy funny, I just felt like sharing my perspective since we have such different opinions even though our experiences seem similar. Shane's way of joking about it in the video was still inappropriate imo but I think the skeleton joke could have been ok in another context (and with less self pity).
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who got a weird vibe from his video, it was just really dismissive and all over the place, not very funny. You realize he isn’t actually very funny once most of his friends have taken off.
There's a difference between being "cancelled" and people just finding out you're a bad person. In this case, people realized how much of a manipulative and in all, disgusting, person he truly is.
I saw the piano part and I was like “ok I refuse to believe that man has a talented bone in his body” and then saw it was fake and get relieved honestly
I used to watch shane's videos back then, but then i realized i only watch his videos because of garret, andrew, and drew lmao. Now there is no reason to watch his videos (except to waste my time)
i know this vid is pretty old but ive only just found it but .. shane dawson now lives in my town. in colorado. a few weeks ago i saw him AND ryland face to face in the curbside pickup at my job i am literally not kidding you. they were picking up a dyson airwrap hairdryer. it haunts me wondering what theyre doing with it. neither have long hair. why do they need that hairdryer. what are they doing with it. the lack of an answer keeps me up at night.
Him being a 30 something year old and trying to act like a quirky teenager is just... Also, he's a 30 something year old and all he has to do is apologise and take accountability. How tf is that so hard to do?
To be fair, I tend to joke about my suicide attempts and abuse to cope. Not trying to defend him and he shouldn't be including it in his videos, but that is a very real coping mechanism.
I used to watch him b ut I always hated that he makes jokes about killing himself and hating himself and what not, I'm not saying he doesn't but it got old real fast and now it just seems like he is weponizing it or maybe he always did idk
honestly ur assumption that Shane and Ryland filmed footage of them "leaving the house" or whatever on the same day because their outfits didn't change doesn't mean much because Shane wears the same outfit everyday until it rips too much to continue wearing it. He may be rich but he does not have taste or care about clothes
i have misophonia so the fact that you chewing the swedish fish didnt make me wanna jump off a bridge is truly remarkable. you must be a special kind of amazing
I used to be a fan of Shane about three or so years ago. I started watching his videos around 2016 to 2017, I watched mostly his ghost hunting videos and videos with his friends in them. I can confirm he always used jokes about hating himself and wanting to die. He was a bad friend to those in his videos, and because I used to watch him and his past friends and how they interacted it rubbed off on me for a long time, and I still haven't finished unlearned some of those traits. He would belittle his friends' interests, he would insult their appearances, he would be horrible to them. And they would laugh, and made it look like it was okay to act that way. And as someone who isn't good at making friends and feel like I'm on the autism spectrum, I saw that and then I emulated that to try and have a close friend group to laugh and have fun with. I also picked up his humor, joking about suicide and hating myself. I struggled with that for a long time, and it was hard to re-learn that those types of jokes aren't okay and they don't help you. Shane absolutely shouldn't be putting these kinds of jokes out on the internet and making them seem normal, it can lead teens into dark places. Making those jokes impacted my mental image of myself, and it worsened my depression. It added on the normalization of suicidal ideation, which led me to scary places. Shane doesn't deserve a platform, and he clearly hasn't changed.
as an unfortunate guy who's been aware of Shane Dawson since at least 2008 (thankfully, i always hated him, go me (he was never funny)) i can ASSURE YOU 100% the unfunny jokes surrounded by his sense of entitlement has always been a major part of him.
I HATE the copout of "I'm not that person anymore" no. You ARE that person. I believe in change. I believe that "that person" could change. But disconnecting yourself from "that person", turning them into someone else entirely, is just a shitty way of dissolving yourself of criticism. It's easy to avoid self reflection when you don't believe you did anything wrong, rather "that person" was the one who made the mistakes.
Omg not only are you absolutely a beautiful human but I’ve never been happier to find a person who’s been saying legit everything I’ve been thinking when it comes to him without focusing on the super drama
Not to mention how toxic he was to his "friends" poor Garret and Andrew were always picked on and he treated Garret like absolute shit, I'm so glad Garret is doing better now, he deserves to thrive, Shane deserves jail time
" we forgive quickly" he wants the whole internet to forget his weird sexual acts/ actions/phrases towards animals and children? nah..... we aint forgiving you. anyone can say theve changed but actions speak volumes. he hasn't changed and probably never will. his " coping jokes" are NOT funny.
yeah i wish he had come back with like a small video apologizing with brevity and grace then have a huge fundraiser for victims of child sexual abuse and/or racism and then disappear again.
you are so underrated wow but i totally agree. even in his half-assed "apology" he made, he was just trying to garner sympathy which i find so manipulative and insensitive. it shows that shane clearly hasn't changed into a better person tbh.
watching him in this is so unsettling he has no remorse for what he did, he's only upset he got called out for it. i used to love shane but now after finding out everything and watching him act as if he's balmeless, i can't even recognize him.
"The more I think of the piñata, the angrier I get" - yo same lol Seriously though, awesome vid. Idk how you don't have more subscribers but you just gained another here
I’m a new subscriber here & i just have to comment and say i cannot wait to see you blow up. I’m obsessed with you already. I literally don’t even care about what topic you speak on, I’m just ready to binge all your videos while i get ready today. You make me laugh & i agree with so much of what you say so far. I’m a fan!
I love how he failed to mention the many creepy things he's said to minors, or the fact that he forced a 13 year old to kiss him on the lips on camera.
this is the first video I’ve seen from your channel and i love your humor and editing, i can really tell you care a lot about the content you make and i feel all your points were very solid, i wholeheartedly agree with you
it’s so disgusting how he is obsessed with calling himself an “empath”. and then that voice he does when he talks about sad things makes me want to rip my hair out
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite youtubers! And the mic coming unplugged without you knowing is RELATABLE. I did a whole video where the mic didnt even record
When Shane said "I'm very very very very..." I was like 'Oh? You gonna say sorry? Please say sorry. It's really not that hard--" "DisScoNnEctEd from the person I was in my twenties 🥺" -_-
It’s fucking sad that I used to watch him as a kid. I hate him, the reason I originally stopped watching him was because my sister said that I shouldn’t because of something he did, then like four years after I stopped watching him I found out what he did and how terrible things he did. He’s terrible.
Calling it “getting cancelled” vs “being forced to take accountability” shows he’s learned nothing
ikr! like its not "being cancelled" its your past coming to light
Even then like he wasn't forced, no one deleted his channel. He's just mad about other people being mad. Blaming "cancel culture" is such a joke.
Yeah, "getting canceled" sounds passive, whereas "taking accountability" is actively thinking about your mistakes, etc...
also, his first comment where he said "I've learned nothing." referring to his "break" ????
You cannot be forced to take accountability, all that shit does is push an endless amount of judgement hoping that if you attack him enough the bad feelings you cause will get him to change. It doesnt work. Shame does not make people concious, it makes them hurt it makes it impossible to be present. We are a social species, hurting others is only possible when we are in pain. I shouldnt have to tell you that berrating shane in the hopes that he will submit to your crushing expectations of goodness and health will not encourage him to regard you. He cannot fit into your ideals, and he shouldn't focus on appealing to people who only want him to suffer, who dont want him to have a livelihood. That is disrespectful to himself but you do not want him to respect himself, you want him to feel how you feel about him, you want him to dissappear you would kill all that he is because you do not value his personhood, his experiences, everything he is. What you people strive for isnt growth, isnt accountability, its character death. "Just stop being racially insensitive things" when he is not sensitive to those things. "Stop sexualizing children" when he is a sexualized child. If you have any genuine desire for accountability you need to be present with where he is at and LET him be present in his flaws so he can grow.
"Shane Dawson loves to waste your time" truest fuckin thing I've ever heard in my life
Yeah tried to watch one of his videos back in 2018 couldn't do it
yes
who is shane dawson
yo mama
That piece of food on a plate that you accidentally touch while cleaning dishes
@@KingOfGaymes very that
This is literally what my mom said when I mentioned his name lmao
I think you mean what is shane dawson
The way he just jokes about his huge cancellation and dismisses all the things that came to light like it was some small drama is just gross
His comment section is honestly sad because some of them probably don't know what he did and think his drama was an overreaction
It shows how much he cares about the situation
he really just does not give a sh*t about what he did
@@olive92 legit like the whole gross thing with willow smith.. her family came at him for that. And he’s just like “hehe whoopsie 🤪”
@@delightfulblueberries7405 sadly his audience is mostly younger people and don’t understand the severity of what he did plus they’re more easily manipulated..
if his therapist laughed with him about the things he was "cancelled" for.....maybe he needs a new one. and she needs to be fired...
Yeah but he's rich lol
Nah that would require him actually realizing he did awful things. He’d rather be enabled ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My guess is that he hasn’t been entirely honest with his therapist based on how he “apologizes” to people
There’s no, literally zero, way he told his therapist everything he did. I’m SURE he sugar coated what he did admit to, but I’ve dealt with people like him and they will never admit even to themselves what they do wrong, at least not entirely.
Lol Katie Horton is probably his therapist that's why 🤣
People also forget that his mistakes weren't just 10 years ago. He made mistakes last year...like...we gonna forget he took advantage of people, supported racists' behavior, and belittled victim of SA? No thanks
Yeah, if all his dumb shit was done back when he was like 19 a hundred years ago, then I'd say yeah we should move on from hating him. But the dude just KEEPS DOING DUMB SHIT.
And his poor pet cat
Also like the talk of the illuminati, he’s still doing that, that’s still an anti-semitic conspiracy theory, he’s not changed.
@@oliviapitstick-elzey5655 wait it's anti-sametic?? How??? My apologies if this comes off rude or anything, I'm just not aware and would like to be! (◍•ᴗ•◍)
@@boomitscocosucker Most conspiracy theories fit into two categories, anti-semitic (illuminati, lizard people, Q, ect.) or something that a government actually did (like MKA ultra). When ever someone tells you there is a shadowy group behind the scenes making it all happen, they’re implying that it was Jewish people who did it. There is a really long history of this that is way to much to type into a youtube comment so if you actually want to support Jewish people like me, I suggest you read into blood libel and the protocols of zion (a fake document used by conspiracy theorists).
“Lemme tell you about how bad my own racism makes ME feel”
Its called feeling guilty. He is negatively affected by what he did too. I don't know what it is. Its like you don't want people to feel guilty, yet you want an apology/accountability for said guilt. All the people who watched shane's videos had the chance to not or turn off the video. But shane whether on or off videos has to live with who he is and what he has done. If he doesn't know how to do better, he'll make the same mistakes and he's afraid of that. Then he feels bad about himself, thinking he just a bad person and can't make anyone happy. Shane has EXTREMELY low self esteem. He is a people pleaser to an unhealthy degree, and so the fact that people hate him for doing something he thought people would enjoy, kills him inside. I have no doubt in my mind he has contemplated ending his life over it.
He likes making videos, but is worried about possibly hurting more people. Something he loves to do, make videos, is hurting people. And that makes him feel bad, he feels really really bad. And regardless of how you've felt or been hurt, you have no right tell him he's not feeling something, his feelings don't matter, scoff at his guilt, etc. How he feels and what he did with that, is how people got hurt in the first place. No human being is able to take accountability for the harm, if they are not allowed to process what causes it, first. "You're bad. Stop doing it" is just not enough.
Even though he feels bad for hurting people, just knowing he did doesn't tell him anything about what he was doing specifically, why he did it, or how he did.
He did not intend to harm people, therefore specifically looking for a racist person who hates black/and or other race people, a sex offender, etc. is not going to lead him to what he was actually accountable for. To Human beings the worst thing you could be is harmful. They often feel worthless for being unable to take care of themselves or others. They feel inherently wrong. Unworthy, unlovable, and dangerous to everyone, even those they love. So, yeah it is important how bad his racism makes HIM feel.
You don't get to use these people's problems, their bad feelings to victimize yourself, then just discard their humanity. They are human beings. People say "We're human, we all make mistakes" "Nobody is perfect" until its a person no one likes or cares about.
You hold these people to even higher standards than being human, you know they don't measure up, then you punish them for not meeting your unreasonable expectations.
You leave no room for love, campassion, learning, and growth, then you punish them for being stuck. That is cruel. And according to good people, you guys apparently know better.
So then why are normal people so abusive to human beings? If you care about people why do you cast away their suffering whenever its convenient for you? Because they're bad? That's a traumatic fantasy. They're hurt, they haven't been cared for appropriately, they either don't know how to care, or are so sick and hurt they don't feel good enough to do so. Morality that doesn't entertain our humanity is less than useless, it is detrimental. It denies the fact that hurting others is indeed harmful to the individual doing the harming.
@@pastelpanda7309
every single apology is glossing over stuff and addressing the LEAST incriminating aspects of his actions.
every single time he does this sad boi demeanor and makes it about himself. It wasn’t until this last /weak/ semi-apology that he stopped using a dissociative tactic of “I don’t know who that person is anymore”. And finally admitted that no, that was him and a part of his past. So that’s growth. But it was just lumped in with another one of his series.
Which, by the way, what growth? In the haunting series, Rylands sister let him know they were on top of a native burial grounds. Then said they didn’t wanna make it about the natives, and immediately after they heard native drum sounds. Then tried to make it about paying respects to the small minority of white settlers wrongfully killed by the natives. Cuz that’s not as bad as making it about the natives, which were the victims of the larger massacre and witch-hunt. And then they joked about it.
Where in his videos has he apologized SPECIFICALLY to the girls who thought it was normal to have inappropriate boundaries with older men cuz of his content. Where has he verbally addressed having young girls twerk for him on tiny chat or omegle. Or addressed having his fans send out of pocket selfies.
I hope he has apologized to HeyyoShawna for using her as a prop for x amount of years.
No, he has not addressed the worst of it, because his newer audience isn’t as aware of these things. And if he glosses over the stuff, most people are just as dismissive and don’t do research.
Do I believe people like to dogpile and make hate mobs on people in an unproductive way? Yes. You see it all the time
HOWEVER, he came back with relative success, albeit not as many millions as before. He has very mixed reception. He does still retain a following.
Now, as someone who used to consume his content, his “suffering” was never a result of something beyond the consequences of his own actions. So if he wants to get all in his feels about the stuff HE did, why tf would I feel bad. He should feel what he needs to, and THEN grow. We don’t want shallow apologies. You are very correct. However, he didn’t actually apologized for anything beyond broad strokes and vague remarks. Arguably, I legitimately don’t think he has beyond a superficial level.
IMO he doesn’t feel bad because he hurt people with his racism. He feels bad because people think he’s an asshole. And if that wasn’t so, he wouldn’t be out there being a white man wanting to make a spoopy scary video on native burial grounds. Which, btw, was info he didn’t have to leave in the video.
Mind you, he should be allowed to grow and progress. He has in the way of finally accepting that his past is his past and not a compartmentalized separate person.
But as someone in their mid 20s, I’m so tired of the internet infantilizing this grown ass man in his 30s. I do not care how sad boi he is about dealing with the consequences of his own actions. Because he WAS harmful. I don’t give two damns about what his intention was. He harmed people and has put in just as much work actually addressing that harm as he has put into his haunted 3 part docu-series.
@@pastelpanda7309 this may be repetitive and i do apologize for that but my brain runs in a loop so if you wanna read, read. if not, cool beans.
he doesn’t get to just sit here and feel “guilty”. if you watch the video he doesn’t show guilt, hes literally using all of this to get more attention and sympathy so he can go back to acting like it never happened.
feeling guilty is NOT fixing the problem. truthfully, he cant fix the problem. he could however grow the fuck up and stop using jokes about suicide and controversy as a way to steer away from the problem.
he needs to actually sit down, apologize and not come back to the internet. no one wants him back on here but his idiotic child fans who don’t understand the issues with what he’s done.
while i do sympathize with the suicidal feelings/attempts he may have dealt with, that does not in any way mean he’s off the hook. i’ve been there and it’s hard and it sucks and it’s the worst feeling to have but it doesn’t change that what happened has happened and he needs to be a fucking adult and stop trying to make everything funny haha oops i fucked up for loads of kids on the internet.
@@pastelpanda7309 did you just,,,,protect,,,,a pedophile,,,,¿
@@pastelpanda7309 yo mama
in his apology video, he claimed he was willing to lose it all in order to make things right and yet he lost nothing, he should leave youtube permanently if he wants us to even believe he's apologetic
STFU if you don't like it then you don't watch it simple
@@BrandonNlewemJr bro, Shane legit hurt people and did terrible stuff, you can’t just not ignore him
@@BrandonNlewemJr Open your eyes young one.
@@nuclearlunarpuppet9733 sorry, I thought you were talking to me
@@dinner1232 mhm, okay
is it a requirement for his cameraman to laugh every time he tells a "joke"?
How else will the viewers know what’s meant to be funny
Yeah the cameraman is at gunpoint but he only laughs because it's funnnyyy........ it's funny I promise......
.5$ for every laugh
It’s like a laugh track in real life and just as cringe
He is desperately trying to replace Andrew.
i used to watch shane dawson as a kid and i realise now that the entertainment in his content was entirely due to garrett watts and andrew siwicki which is so apparent in their own podcast bc those two have real chemistry and are genuinely interesting people and he was just making fun of them the whole time!! really glad they moved on and found success on their own
Very true and same even as a kid I felt bad for Andrew because I was actually geniounly interested in what he had to say
SAME!! i also liked morgan too. her and garrett were so funny together. but the way she still does these vids. it’s like,, ik she's ryland's sister and everything but still 😭😭 she could do way better than to associate with this
Don’t forget abt my boy drew monson
@@lordlandcandlestick3010 yeah i feel really bad for morgan bc the conflict of sticking by your brother and sticking by whats right must be really hard to deal with :(
@@ploopydiper yeah!! drew left much earlier than everyone else and i didn’t really hear anything about him until very recently compared to how soon he left and he also was much of a punching bag for shane and its very sad to see :(
Kurtis' editor Nickisnotgreen making his own channel then you become his editor and you make your own channel... The generation continues...
Wait that's crazy
The Kurtis lore
Average white dudes ranting in front of a camera ain't special lmao
Wait, what??? I didn't know that!
wait, nick edit’s kurtis conner’s videos?,
The bit about himself now vs himself before is like a real life version of that Ryan 2.0 bit from the office. Textbook gaslighting.
@Untainted Afro leave the internet and never come back
@Untainted Afro retired
@Untainted Afro also said sorry without blaming others literally like 1 time lol
@Untainted Afro He's a multimillionaire. He could step away forever since his content and interactions can be harmful.
@Untainted Afro to shut up forever and lived out the rest of his life privately somewhere else
"I went out and met great people" Glad he went out and met 4 more white people that would expand his echo chamber and reafirm his belief that his plataform didn't grow on the back of the estigmatization of people of color; truly a representation of the usamerican spirit.
One of them literally looks like a Karen
the sheer nervous energy of the camera guy is telling in of itself
sounds like he's on the verge of tears
Send that poor man some help. He really does not sound like he’s having fun💀💀
I can't remember the camera guy's name but I hope he quit and went on to do camera work for better people
Shane's money really helps Ryland and his family turn a blind eye to his actions. I get standing with your partner through thick and thin but the amount of red flags being over looked really has me questioning the people who support Shane and have him believe what he did was okay.
!!!
If money is enough for you to "turn a blind eye" it doesn't bother you to begin with.
The first time I heard him just joke casually about suicide in his comeback video I felt physically sick to my stomach. What kind of self respecting person would try and suicide bait their fans into feeling bad for him all so he doesn't need to really address all the valid shit he was called out for. Not that I doubt he may have had some sort of suicidal episode during his break but to wave that around and joke about it to his fans is just awful.
@EmbleerHomba I feel like the ONLY reason people are mad about the casual suicide jokes is because of the incredibly horrible timing and the fact that it’s Shane. A lot of people who struggle with suicidal thought and depression do that. Like the literal exact same way he does it, too. The only difference is he’s supposed to be acknowledging all his bs and instead he’s making jokes and showing off live laugh love signs.
@@wieebb4139 There's a huge difference between speaking casually or jokingly about suicide ideation in your personal life (which is still bad and causes real harm, for you and those around you), and someone doing it on a large platform viewed largely by children in their first video back after extremely serious controversy, esp when that person has a long, long history of using these serious topics to garner positive public opinion where it isn't deserved.
i get joking about cutting, suicide, ed’s, and fat jokes as a way of healing, self defense or coping, but the way he does his just makes me feel sick, like the sheer amount that he does them and just….ugh.
@@wieebb4139 I'm not only mad bc it's shane, i'm mad that this grown man doesn't see how destructive those jokes are especially to people that already struggle with it
being in a loop of triggering jokes never helps you get better (which he is apparently trying to do) and he is spreading this bs to his viewers only furthering this loop and making it seem like it's healthy and okay
for context i've been suicidal for almost a decade and has attempted recently, suicide jokes only bring you down long term even if you feel better for a second after
@@wieebb4139 no. Threatening suicide to manipulate people is, well manipulative, that’s what Shane’s doing. People who have been suicidal don’t “joke” about it in that way. They don’t do it to get sympathy, the do it to cope and wouldn’t do it in front of millions of people who they could possibly trigger. If people do this the same way Shane does it, then they’re bad people too.
It irks me that he still refuses to acknowledge that it was himself that did those things, "I can't pretend that person didn't exist" its the refrencing of "that person" that bothers me, the further trying to create distance to himself.
Ryan in the office?
He's tossing the blame to nothing
Right!? It especially bugs me because he was a grown man when he did all that shit, like it would almost be understandable if he was a middle schooler and didn't really know how damaging his "jokes" were, but buddy was like fucking 25. He should have known better.
the fact that he literally showed clips of himself in blackface and still keeps the poster for his horrifying "too cool" movie are just a few physical examples of how he hasn't learned anything or changed at all
Too cool 😂
He literally admitted to not wanting to delete the videos because they got him where he was and people “related” to them
aka made him famous and rich, cough cough : )
no one relates to racist jokes and the sexualization of everyone around you except absolute pos, shane.
@@syviiiia2812 unfortunatel;y there are a lot of racist and awful people who do relate to shane :/
@@Wet-Milk that’s kinda what was implied in my comment haha
@@Wet-Milk Yeah thats the pos, stands for piece of shit
shane is the embodiment of "go girl, give us nothing" except that i dont want him to give us anything - really impressive that he managed to learn nothing within 1 year, personalitywise and skillwise. how come people who have less experience than him manage to do better videos, not hitting around the bush, expanding nonsensical videos to a 1h-long version. It just angers me and i have not enough english to express it >:(
Honestly what was this 3-Part of Nothing? Just call it a vlog or whatever instead of conspiracy something.
I don’t know about you guys but I will be defending Ethan for accidentally unplugging the mic and I will watch his 9 part series on why he is sorry for it and his 12 part series on how the light died.
And how, in the end, it made the light in his soul die. 😔
I'll accept it, but only if it's punctuated by previews for a ghost hunting show
The sign might say in this house we forgive quickly, but thankfully I don't live in Shane's house.
i literally cant listen to or look at shane without getting pissed off he just seems so FAKE like nothing he does in front of the camera seems genuine despite doing this shit for ten years?? i feel like the only time ive ever seen him genuinely emote on camera is when hes furious about something or making fun of someone??? but the thing is he wants to sell us this image of this candid, real, raw, “i thought about killing myself” and “ive learned nothing 😋” quirky image but it just comes off as forced and egregious. its so annoying. you shouldnt have to beg for your audience’s attention and trust like that. but he knows hes not likable otherwise. EYEROLL
I thought the same exact thing. He's so fucking inauthentic. There's nothing to like about him.
I had a friend who used to watch Shane Dawson at the very beginning of his career, and they said he had a totally different personality then. In their opinion (and mine), Shane's totally faking everything.
He's got so many people defending him saying he's grown ect. Even if that's true he should've lost his large platform privileges. He's already rich he doesn't need it. Go make art in your office and leave everyone else out of it.
It’s ironic how he claims to have grown from being offensive and all.. yet his first video back is talking about a “spooky Indian burial ground” and joking about it 😬
@@KingOfGaymes profiting off of the death and appropriation of indigenous people, he really hit the ground running with this one.
he's grown sooo much by ignoring everything he's done, retaining his fanbase, and making money off of it the whole time you guyyyyssss
@@meganmullis5386 legit he didn’t learn anything. His apology was just performative bullshit
That bit where he talks about himself in the past and is like "that's a different person" is so obviously him trying to deflect peoples anger as if they shouldn't be mad at him because he's a completely different person now
"tacky" is exactly the perfect word for shane dawson tbh.
I’m sorry but the irony of your mic getting unplugged not long after you made fun of Shane for not having an external microphone is really funny to me… at least yours was an accident though
He does that prolonged shyt because he knows people are easily duped. Most of his fans are young and this is mean to say but young people are easily fooled. At least that's what Shane thinks. That's why he keeps stopping and not finishing his sentences. That's why he carelessly threw in the topic of suicide. He doesn't think highly of his young fans, he knows they will accept his shallow apology. And that's sad.
except most of his fans arent young, ive only met shane dawson fans in their 20s
Exactly his analytics say most of his fans are 18 to 25-year-old men tf are u talking about dumba** kids nowadays don't watch s**t but fortnite Roblox and mrbeast
Most of his audience that I’ve seen are like middle aged women who constantly defend him 😒
So sorry for this long reply and pardon my tardiness I've been contemplating on wether I should comment, but I do believe most of his fans are in there 20s currently. I also speculate that since those fans are now more grown that they probably grew up watching Shane's videos. They know what he's doing is wrong, but they don't want to believe it or perhaps they just idolize him for some reason. I can imagine that his videos helped people through some tough times which in turn maybe built an attachment no matter how horrible the jokes were/are. I wholeheartedly think that Shane keeps on doing these things because he knows he will have at least some people on his side no matter how stupid the excuse. I am in no way condoning nor trying to draw sympathy for Shane's fans, but Feel free to disagree with my statements as it is pure speculation.
Idk I've met a lot of dumb old people, maybe easier to fool would work better.
"we forgive quickly, how about YOU get to that?" no i don't think i will ❤️
I genuinely don’t understand his stubborn fanbase, like ppl say “they’re just young” but like how young can they be? I watched shane as a kid and was a fan a few years ago before learning everything, and I’m already 21. So like, how is anyone younger still standing by him?? Weird as hell
The "they're just young" card is BS in my eyes. Are they young? Probably. Are young people inherently so mentally incapable that they can't process the basic issues in Shane's content? I genuinely don't think so. It annoys me because while a part of maturation comes with age, most kids have more complex inner worlds than adults give credit, especially the adults too old to remember being a kid.
@@clev7989 some young people are reeeeeeallly dumb
It's because fans who are older, typically leave when they learn this and new, younger people give him views. There's also old fans who just don't care.
i agree, it has nothing to do with age people should look for if they changed and grew as a person, which shane clearly did not
If they think he's young they should see the fans he interacted with 🤡
Shane Dawson: The harrowing story of how one millionaire ran away from all his problems and overcame feeling bad for doing blackface. Truly inspiring.
to be fair, shane has genuinely always acted this way. its almost just weirder now because he's way older. like everything he says is supposed to be so funny and its not, but i used to think it was funny as a teen ya. he's just like, unable to be genuine,
Precisely my thoughts
I used to watch Shane during his "documentary" (if that is what we are calling it) phase, and I remember him discussing how he gets cancelled every few years and its just a part of his life, I honestly think he doesn't ever learn because he just knows to stay offline for a while and let it blow over. But the way he talks about it now, is exactly how he would back then. Saying things about how he finally doesn't care what other ppl think, how he has grown so much, while showing no growth and trying to gain sympathy and clearly showing he really cares if people like him or watch him more than simply creating content he likes to make and letting that speak for itself. His content does kinda rely on ppl liking him because otherwise you notice how lazy and poorly edited it is, so he kind of has to care what his audience thinks of him, he IS the content
Not only is his new content scrambled, unnecessarily drawn out and socially inept given his past. . . the fact there is new merch to memorialize this fast food production is in bad taste. Newsflash, Shane's character will always have a self serving agenda.
Never seen this guy's videos before but he legit looks like Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy's love child
It’s crazy because I’m British too
I knew I liked him for a reason. My inner child cringe loves it
@@ethanisonline you’re british? i thought you were american😭
@@strooli_ he's a lesbian actually! hope this helps xoxo
@@dylanm8365 HELP ME😭
I mean you can joke about... like depression in general. BUT if you use your experience to glorify self harm or to use it as a shield against your own wrong doings that's where it gets fucked up
I like this take, it gives leeway to artists to make stuff that's resonate to depressed people without glorifying tragedy (or that's what I got from it basically)
He’s sorry not for his actions, but because he was caught and called out
He has a framed Not Cool poster in his house. That says it all.
Shane dawsons eyes scare me they stare so hard
he really hits you with the :eye: _ :eye: at any fucken chance
Pls why is this so funny 😭
Everything about him scares me honestly
I’m all for allowing growth and change but not when you’re a predator 💀
His humor is still the same. All he’s done is put on a softer voice 😭💀
EXACTLY
Pretty much acting “nice”
He could have totally done a video educating on the terrors that indigenous people have gone through, but instead he's poking at it and profiting.
as someone who has been suicidal for like 9 years and has attempted suicide at some point,, if there's one thing i learned it's that suicide jokes are truly never funny
it might seem like haha it's just dark humour, but truly it just makes people uncomfortable, brings down the mood, is annoying to people who are suicidal being reminded about it and just generally making suicide jokes 24/7 only makes your thoughts worse, only makes you feel more like shit
like trust me i've been thru it, once i stopped making suicide jokes and tried hard to surround myself with more positive stuff i've gotten a bit better
I get that it isn't a great thing to joke about constantly and it's inappropriate in most situations to begin with but as someone who's attempted etc I think suicide jokes are really cathartic. I wouldn't joke about it myself, I generally avoid even mentioning my own thoughts or attempts, so I don't know when or if it would be funny in a personal setting but in comedy and stand up I definitely think it's a topic that's ok and funny to joke about. Because it's something you can't talk about casually I think comedy is a good space to make yourself more comfortable with the memories (obviously work through your issues with a professional first) and kind of destigmatize it for yourself. Also, laughing at the silliness of some aspects is a nice way of finding community and feeling less alone while avoiding ideation or wallowing in dark thoughts.
You obviously don't have to find that kind of comedy funny, I just felt like sharing my perspective since we have such different opinions even though our experiences seem similar. Shane's way of joking about it in the video was still inappropriate imo but I think the skeleton joke could have been ok in another context (and with less self pity).
The only reason I’m glad I watched Shane at any point in time is finding Garrett and Andrew. They’re genuinely good people and really funny
He's acting like it isn't physically possible to make movies by yourself and not release them alongside a house tour and suicide jokes.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who got a weird vibe from his video, it was just really dismissive and all over the place, not very funny. You realize he isn’t actually very funny once most of his friends have taken off.
There's a difference between being "cancelled" and people just finding out you're a bad person. In this case, people realized how much of a manipulative and in all, disgusting, person he truly is.
Tbh at this point no matter how many Shane Dawson apologize I just cannot forgive what he has done and I'm fine with that.
If I may ask a question: has his earlier apologies influenced your current feelings? I ask because if so that would make a lot of sense.
ethan making fun of shanes audio quality then his mic getting unplugged is so funny
Remember in his last video when he literally admitted that his old “apology” weren’t sincere and he did it so people would stop talking about it
1. im so glad u made this
2. ur v underrated
3. what r ur pronouns :)
I use he/him! Thanks :)
I saw the piano part and I was like “ok I refuse to believe that man has a talented bone in his body” and then saw it was fake and get relieved honestly
Honestly... Same. I absolutely did not believe he was playing it, and I was right.
I used to watch shane's videos back then, but then i realized i only watch his videos because of garret, andrew, and drew lmao. Now there is no reason to watch his videos (except to waste my time)
Then don't watch them stupid
@@BrandonNlewemJr LMAOOOO, so i did babes
shawn acts like that one kid in middle school that pretended to have ADHD
That's weirdly accurate...
I wish Shane had stayed gone.
i know this vid is pretty old but ive only just found it but
..
shane dawson now lives in my town. in colorado. a few weeks ago i saw him AND ryland face to face in the curbside pickup at my job i am literally not kidding you. they were picking up a dyson airwrap hairdryer. it haunts me wondering what theyre doing with it. neither have long hair. why do they need that hairdryer. what are they doing with it. the lack of an answer keeps me up at night.
Him being a 30 something year old and trying to act like a quirky teenager is just...
Also, he's a 30 something year old and all he has to do is apologise and take accountability.
How tf is that so hard to do?
To be fair, I tend to joke about my suicide attempts and abuse to cope. Not trying to defend him and he shouldn't be including it in his videos, but that is a very real coping mechanism.
Yeah its just messed up to use when people want you to apologize for your actions, it's like "you guys know I'm depressed and suicidal right? :((("
yeah but it’s pretty inappropriate in this situation like he needs to read the room
dude ur content is so professional and entertaining, so surprised u didn't have millions of followers :0 keep it up man ur gonna go far
ETHANNNNN the way i actually started choking at the "really minor" joke, i almost fucking DIED
you're so underrated?? legit thought someone reposted a bigger youtuber's video when I saw the sub count. Good stuff, keep it up 🤍
I used to watch him b ut I always hated that he makes jokes about killing himself and hating himself and what not, I'm not saying he doesn't but it got old real fast and now it just seems like he is weponizing it or maybe he always did idk
also being creepy with children isn’t a mistake or an oopsie it’s crime behavior
The way he talks about absolutely nothing for so long is infuriating. He’s so flippant about it all.
honestly ur assumption that Shane and Ryland filmed footage of them "leaving the house" or whatever on the same day because their outfits didn't change doesn't mean much because Shane wears the same outfit everyday until it rips too much to continue wearing it. He may be rich but he does not have taste or care about clothes
i have misophonia so the fact that you chewing the swedish fish didnt make me wanna jump off a bridge is truly remarkable. you must be a special kind of amazing
Unfortunately it did make me wanna jump off a bridge
At this point if I look at his face for more than a second I feel like I'm getting hives on the inside
This is made 10x worse when I see old footage of him with his signature emo hair. Icky. Go away.
something about his face is so unsettling
“Do I blame him? Yes” lmao yup
I used to be a fan of Shane about three or so years ago. I started watching his videos around 2016 to 2017, I watched mostly his ghost hunting videos and videos with his friends in them. I can confirm he always used jokes about hating himself and wanting to die. He was a bad friend to those in his videos, and because I used to watch him and his past friends and how they interacted it rubbed off on me for a long time, and I still haven't finished unlearned some of those traits. He would belittle his friends' interests, he would insult their appearances, he would be horrible to them. And they would laugh, and made it look like it was okay to act that way. And as someone who isn't good at making friends and feel like I'm on the autism spectrum, I saw that and then I emulated that to try and have a close friend group to laugh and have fun with. I also picked up his humor, joking about suicide and hating myself. I struggled with that for a long time, and it was hard to re-learn that those types of jokes aren't okay and they don't help you. Shane absolutely shouldn't be putting these kinds of jokes out on the internet and making them seem normal, it can lead teens into dark places. Making those jokes impacted my mental image of myself, and it worsened my depression. It added on the normalization of suicidal ideation, which led me to scary places. Shane doesn't deserve a platform, and he clearly hasn't changed.
as an unfortunate guy who's been aware of Shane Dawson since at least 2008 (thankfully, i always hated him, go me (he was never funny)) i can ASSURE YOU 100% the unfunny jokes surrounded by his sense of entitlement has always been a major part of him.
I HATE the copout of "I'm not that person anymore" no. You ARE that person. I believe in change. I believe that "that person" could change. But disconnecting yourself from "that person", turning them into someone else entirely, is just a shitty way of dissolving yourself of criticism. It's easy to avoid self reflection when you don't believe you did anything wrong, rather "that person" was the one who made the mistakes.
Omg not only are you absolutely a beautiful human but I’ve never been happier to find a person who’s been saying legit everything I’ve been thinking when it comes to him without focusing on the super drama
I feel like a hostage and my captor *desperately* wants to induce Stockholm syndrome but it's not working because I have morals
the regret ethan had after he decided to watch shane. I mean, same. 😃
"I'm depressed and certainly didn't fuck anyone's cat!" Lmao well said
Not to mention how toxic he was to his "friends" poor Garret and Andrew were always picked on and he treated Garret like absolute shit, I'm so glad Garret is doing better now, he deserves to thrive, Shane deserves jail time
drew monson too.
" we forgive quickly"
he wants the whole internet to forget his weird sexual acts/ actions/phrases towards animals and children? nah..... we aint forgiving you.
anyone can say theve changed but actions speak volumes. he hasn't changed and probably never will. his " coping jokes" are NOT funny.
People have started watching his vids agsin
@@izzyisabelle4152 I get mad whenever I think about all the people that watched the drama go down and still chose to support him
yeah i wish he had come back with like a small video apologizing with brevity and grace then have a huge fundraiser for victims of child sexual abuse and/or racism and then disappear again.
Another huge red flag about his “apologies” is that he only really talks about how the things he did effected *him*
Because he's a self entitled weirdo
Omg I didn't even realize they wore the same outfits for the sympathy reel Holy shit lol
you look like brian david gilbert but in a different font in a good way i swear
the sideways kick is a dropkick
you are so underrated wow but i totally agree. even in his half-assed "apology" he made, he was just trying to garner sympathy which i find so manipulative and insensitive. it shows that shane clearly hasn't changed into a better person tbh.
watching him in this is so unsettling he has no remorse for what he did, he's only upset he got called out for it. i used to love shane but now after finding out everything and watching him act as if he's balmeless, i can't even recognize him.
Every apology is always, “I’ve moved on from it so you should too.”
Just found your channel :) don’t know you super well yet but I’m hella impressed by the editing and how well spoken you are. subbed & liked the video.
"The more I think of the piñata, the angrier I get" - yo same lol Seriously though, awesome vid. Idk how you don't have more subscribers but you just gained another here
I’m a new subscriber here & i just have to comment and say i cannot wait to see you blow up. I’m obsessed with you already. I literally don’t even care about what topic you speak on, I’m just ready to binge all your videos while i get ready today. You make me laugh & i agree with so much of what you say so far. I’m a fan!
This was on my recommended, and I'm glad it was. I subbed because you're funny, well spoken and underrated. Keep up the good work!
I love how u approached this subject, made, talked about some things I hadn't thought of.
Btw do you have a discord server?
I don’t, but maybe one day!
you're my new favorite commentary channel, hands-down. I can't wait to see you grow.
This is the first video I’ve seen of yours and I am only halfway in, but I gotta sub. You are wicked funny and I love your humor. Keep it up my guy!!
I love how he failed to mention the many creepy things he's said to minors, or the fact that he forced a 13 year old to kiss him on the lips on camera.
how did i just come across ur channel wtf WHY ARE U SO UNDERRATED >:(
this is the first video I’ve seen from your channel and i love your humor and editing, i can really tell you care a lot about the content you make and i feel all your points were very solid, i wholeheartedly agree with you
proud to be ur 838th subscriber
such quality content for such a small channel
it’s so disgusting how he is obsessed with calling himself an “empath”. and then that voice he does when he talks about sad things makes me want to rip my hair out
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite youtubers! And the mic coming unplugged without you knowing is RELATABLE. I did a whole video where the mic didnt even record
When Shane said "I'm very very very very..."
I was like 'Oh? You gonna say sorry? Please say sorry. It's really not that hard--"
"DisScoNnEctEd from the person I was in my twenties 🥺"
-_-
It’s fucking sad that I used to watch him as a kid. I hate him, the reason I originally stopped watching him was because my sister said that I shouldn’t because of something he did, then like four years after I stopped watching him I found out what he did and how terrible things he did. He’s terrible.