I’ve found that pushing my heels through the lip of the jump has been the biggest break through for me. Your videos have helped a lot! Slanted Ground has good ones too. You guys should collab.
@@orla222 Down while going up the lip and I push through the lip with my heels, then everything works out from there. I’ve not felt the forward buck/dead sailor feeling in my last 50+ jumps.
You won't make any progress until you call it a bunny hop. That's step one. "J-Hop" isn't a thing, the proper nomenclature is Bunnyhop. I'm just kidding (sorta😉) The instructions in the vid And the channel is great, excellent work! I've been riding since the 70s, and the hop was first thing I learned after wheelies with a coaster brake. This channel is a great refresher, thanks for sharing 🤘
I had a hard time trying to learn bunny hops and manuals before learning to jump. I'm not great at any of the 3 but I had tried bunny hops and manuals without much success. Then I had a guy help me work through some small jumps, and the next time I tried manuals and bunny hops it went a lot better.
I completely agree with Dusty here. To me, from the perspective of someone who can bunny hop about as well as Dusty in this video and manual a touch further, I would say that the old idea that we all got taught that the manual is 'the start of a bunny hop' is not at all how it feels on the bike. For a bunny hop, I think the only real goal of the front wheel lift stage is just to get the front wheel about 6 inches high. From there the real work is then done by pulling the bars aggressively back towards you, whilst also standing and driving your hips forward, so then your hips and hands meet in the middle, kind of like a very aggressive scissor jack motion. You just need to get the front wheel high enough so that when you pull back on the bars the front wheel continues to rise up, but you want it low enough so that it provides enough resistance for you to be able to pull hard against, because it's that hard pull that generates the explosive downwards force you need to drive you up, and that you'll ultimately redirect forwards to push the bars away to lift the rear wheel. Initiating the manual feels different, that feels like it is primarily about flicking the bike away from you while leaning back. you want to drop your hips straight down until your upper legs are at 90 degrees to your back, then lock your core to hold that 90 degree bend, and flick the bike forward and the 'L' backwards. The key is that the 'L' has to stay completely strong and rigid, if you fold your upper body at all the front won't rise. I think the key to that is a really strong core, which I realised after doing 6 months of calisthenics and finding I could suddenly initiate a manual with ease (holding it past 20 feet though, now that's a different subject!).
@jspider6185 I do this too and have been trying to stop, because I also do it when jumping and I think it is actually throwing my timing out slightly. What I've found has helped has been deliberate practice where I purposely concentrate on not doing the pre-hop and repeatedly showing my mind that it all still works without the pre-hop. The other thing that has helped for me has been doing manuals practice, because I think I originally started doing the pre-hop when I couldn't reliably get my weight out of the way for a front wheel lift, so I started it doing it to enable the first part of the bunny hop. Now I can manual better, if I start my bunny hop by thinking 'the initial hip drop is the same for a manual and bunny, and you don't need the pre-hop for the manual so you don't need it for the bunny either' I find that helps me initiate a bunny without a pre-hop. Like Dusty says though, it's very hard to unlearn something like this, it takes a **lot** of deliberate practice IMO.
@@woody2505 Thanks for the tip. I tried it out today and realised I was even doing it before getting into the manual position (not that I can hold a manual). So I'm even more screwed than I thought haha. But with intention and concentration I could avoid doing it for the manual so I should be able to make some progress.
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I’ve found that pushing my heels through the lip of the jump has been the biggest break through for me. Your videos have helped a lot! Slanted Ground has good ones too. You guys should collab.
Are you keeping heels down or up on the lip?
@@orla222 Down while going up the lip and I push through the lip with my heels, then everything works out from there. I’ve not felt the forward buck/dead sailor feeling in my last 50+ jumps.
Much appreciated. Your videos with the explanations tied along with the video clips make it easy to understand and follow. Thank you 😊
You won't make any progress until you call it a bunny hop. That's step one. "J-Hop" isn't a thing, the proper nomenclature is Bunnyhop.
I'm just kidding (sorta😉) The instructions in the vid And the channel is great, excellent work! I've been riding since the 70s, and the hop was first thing I learned after wheelies with a coaster brake. This channel is a great refresher, thanks for sharing 🤘
I had a hard time trying to learn bunny hops and manuals before learning to jump. I'm not great at any of the 3 but I had tried bunny hops and manuals without much success. Then I had a guy help me work through some small jumps, and the next time I tried manuals and bunny hops it went a lot better.
I agree. I do Manuals, but IT IS Not necessary for a J Hop that dusty taught me 😊
I completely agree with Dusty here. To me, from the perspective of someone who can bunny hop about as well as Dusty in this video and manual a touch further, I would say that the old idea that we all got taught that the manual is 'the start of a bunny hop' is not at all how it feels on the bike.
For a bunny hop, I think the only real goal of the front wheel lift stage is just to get the front wheel about 6 inches high. From there the real work is then done by pulling the bars aggressively back towards you, whilst also standing and driving your hips forward, so then your hips and hands meet in the middle, kind of like a very aggressive scissor jack motion. You just need to get the front wheel high enough so that when you pull back on the bars the front wheel continues to rise up, but you want it low enough so that it provides enough resistance for you to be able to pull hard against, because it's that hard pull that generates the explosive downwards force you need to drive you up, and that you'll ultimately redirect forwards to push the bars away to lift the rear wheel.
Initiating the manual feels different, that feels like it is primarily about flicking the bike away from you while leaning back. you want to drop your hips straight down until your upper legs are at 90 degrees to your back, then lock your core to hold that 90 degree bend, and flick the bike forward and the 'L' backwards. The key is that the 'L' has to stay completely strong and rigid, if you fold your upper body at all the front won't rise. I think the key to that is a really strong core, which I realised after doing 6 months of calisthenics and finding I could suddenly initiate a manual with ease (holding it past 20 feet though, now that's a different subject!).
Nice car over there!!
I do a little pre-bounce every time I do a bunny hop, and I hate it. How do I stop doing it?
@@jspider6185 lol it’s one of those kind over matter things. Muscle memory is so hard to break
@jspider6185 I do this too and have been trying to stop, because I also do it when jumping and I think it is actually throwing my timing out slightly.
What I've found has helped has been deliberate practice where I purposely concentrate on not doing the pre-hop and repeatedly showing my mind that it all still works without the pre-hop.
The other thing that has helped for me has been doing manuals practice, because I think I originally started doing the pre-hop when I couldn't reliably get my weight out of the way for a front wheel lift, so I started it doing it to enable the first part of the bunny hop. Now I can manual better, if I start my bunny hop by thinking 'the initial hip drop is the same for a manual and bunny, and you don't need the pre-hop for the manual so you don't need it for the bunny either' I find that helps me initiate a bunny without a pre-hop. Like Dusty says though, it's very hard to unlearn something like this, it takes a **lot** of deliberate practice IMO.
@@woody2505 Thanks for the tip. I tried it out today and realised I was even doing it before getting into the manual position (not that I can hold a manual). So I'm even more screwed than I thought haha. But with intention and concentration I could avoid doing it for the manual so I should be able to make some progress.
It looks so easy, but I'm struggling to do it.