6L LS burnt in a fire! Can we get it to run ?

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  • @HalfassKustoms
    @HalfassKustoms  Рік тому +64

    Ok just so everyone knows things I've tried or looked at are starter is not stuck but did try another starter still the same deal don't see anything wrong with the flexplate, checked the sensors nothing touching. Bearings look good, timing chain isn't rubbing anything, the rector wheel doesn't look like it's rubbing anything. Starting to think maybe something with the cam or lifters but really can't see why haha.

    • @keithballinger5081
      @keithballinger5081 Рік тому +1

      I believe that there's a gasket that's behind the upper timing gear that likes to blow out and that all it to not get oil to the upper end Brent. Something like that anyways

    • @keithballinger5081
      @keithballinger5081 Рік тому +3

      That did sound like upper end problems to me

    • @briantaylor6257
      @briantaylor6257 Рік тому +1

      Flywheel bolts too long ?

    • @dayslife
      @dayslife Рік тому +1

      many LS have problems with worn rocker's bushings ?

    • @charlesprody9244
      @charlesprody9244 Рік тому +5

      Plastic timing chain damper, maybe melted into lower areas?

  • @allan-mw7op
    @allan-mw7op Рік тому +13

    Dr Brent is in the burn ward saving a critical burn victim ! Way to go! great video !

  • @keithmason9342
    @keithmason9342 Рік тому +6

    Hey Brent, as a retired funeral director I'd say you did one bang up job of resurrecting a cremated 6L LS. Great work and a very gratifying video. Claim success whenever you can. Take care my friend. Thanks and we'll see you next time.

  • @kurtzxcvb3481
    @kurtzxcvb3481 Рік тому +45

    I'd look very carefully behind the flywheel because that's the only spot that you can't take off and look because the way it's mounted on the stand so maybe there's something flopping down in between the flywheel and the block

  • @JaySea1069
    @JaySea1069 Рік тому +3

    Ehh, it'll reveal itself, just really glad to see you digging in on a late night session where what the shop is almost does'nt matter. Hope you enjoyed a wobble pop to close it out, cheers

  • @michaelguinn5736
    @michaelguinn5736 Рік тому +1

    Morning Brent.......at least it runs, you will get it figured out..

  • @franksgarage8551
    @franksgarage8551 Рік тому +9

    Nothing phases you. Just keep pushing through.
    Two sensors on throttle body, throttle position sensor and idle air control.
    Sounds like starter dragging on flywheel. Common failure. Something with starter drive returning. Windage tray.

  • @lagopeter
    @lagopeter Рік тому +19

    Thank you for continuing to make these videos by the way. Your positivity is one of those indelible things that I think wears off on all of us. You definitely been through a rough patch and it's awesome to see the way you deal with it.

    • @lagopeter
      @lagopeter Рік тому +1

      @icu22day well... I suppose I mean to imply that his positive attitude seems not easily erased so far as I can see. .
      That positivity, is inspiring..
      So. Perhaps grammatically, that might make more sense to say.

  • @tjakr3869
    @tjakr3869 Рік тому +10

    Always amazing how Pablo just hangs out with all the action going on around him. Outstanding Poochie

  • @bettingru
    @bettingru Рік тому

    Brent, you add a new dimension to the typical "Will it run" videos. Your videos explaining fuel injection, ECUs and wiring connections will be valued by the next generation of car restorers.

  • @fabienlaurent4678
    @fabienlaurent4678 Рік тому +47

    The noise can simply be from the fact your engine is on a stand, not on rubber mount as it is in a car ( maybe 😉) In any case you have done a good job with this engine revival

  • @jimdandy2275
    @jimdandy2275 Рік тому +6

    Brent I have no experience with the 6 lt but since you can hear that noise at about midway back in the engine and loudest near the oil pan rail I believe it originates in the crankshaft or cam area. Since you have already removed the pan and windage tray and found no wear marks or on the dipstick or tube either, I suggest this. Remove the valve covers and use the starter to rotate the engine while watching all the rockers movements. All moving up and down fairly equally? Loose or bent pushrods? Bad lifters or cam? Compression test it? Also, possibly a sloppy timing chain set. Maybe remove the intake and valley cover to inspect the lifters and cam. Cam position sensor rubbing on the reluctor? Remove the bolt and lift the sensor an 1/8 inch or so.
    Or you may just elect to shove it in a corner somewhere and deal with this if or when you decide to stick it into something.

  • @jimcarlisle2309
    @jimcarlisle2309 Рік тому +2

    Good Job, you are brave!

  • @glenharper3136
    @glenharper3136 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Brent.

  • @JohnSmith-nl8dx
    @JohnSmith-nl8dx Рік тому +1

    Put it in your car and turn the radio up full it will be fine my friend.luv your attitude and work mate god bless

  • @gordonbrooks3856
    @gordonbrooks3856 Рік тому +2

    Fascinating. You've added to my knowledge and proven once again you are a mechanical wizard.

  • @adamg-rv2jw
    @adamg-rv2jw Рік тому +3

    If I'm not mistaken Lq4's are externally balanced and Lm7 are internal. That wouldn't make noise but cause your vibration.

  • @davidarnette327
    @davidarnette327 Рік тому +7

    Probably valve train lash from a bad roller lifter. Only you and Pablo can do a will it run on the engine stand! That was awesome. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @kennethewertz9313
    @kennethewertz9313 Рік тому +14

    This is looking at disaster in the face and saying I am moving on, you aren't going to stop me. Awesome! Watching this had me all over the place with my emotions of my own struggles. Keep on keeping on my friend.

  • @brendagaunce8757
    @brendagaunce8757 Рік тому +10

    Can not believe how good an attitude you have Brent, I would be so upset that it has a little problem after doing so much to the engine for what you started with. Call it a Win

  • @donnengler7532
    @donnengler7532 Рік тому +3

    You are putting heads from a smaller engine onto a larger engine. The chamber size must be smaller on the aluminium heads to maintain the same compression ratio between the two engines. It is therefore possible that the valves are touching without bending. Also it appears to be running rougher than I would expect. Check compression and check pistons with your borescope. :)

  • @lancemclean9273
    @lancemclean9273 Рік тому +3

    Watching a tent wiggle the harness and look at it perplexed reminded me of
    Clark W Griswold when his house wouldn’t light up

  • @bobbymac9334
    @bobbymac9334 Рік тому +3

    As crunchy as that thing was, its amazing to hear it breath life again. You are definately the ls whisperer.

  • @arthurmccarron4379
    @arthurmccarron4379 Рік тому +1

    You amaze me every time. Your. Willing. Tu try. The. Impossible. Feat. To me. I need everything. Tobe. There. Thanks

  • @billyhaddock5540
    @billyhaddock5540 Рік тому +7

    Congrats Brent, on getting ur 6L ls motor rebuilt and kind-of running for now. sounds like u didn't feed the Squirrels! lv to Cool Pablo..

  • @davidhimeback9087
    @davidhimeback9087 Рік тому +1

    You need to check the crank by rotating it with out the pan on. Maybe something is different in the 2 pans...

  • @ronbunker5778
    @ronbunker5778 Рік тому +1

    Thats exciting when you do a start up on an unknown engine! Great job!

  • @markbrown6236
    @markbrown6236 Рік тому +1

    I know you won't quit, looking forward to the next video to see what the issue was.

  • @harrytaylor6854
    @harrytaylor6854 Рік тому +1

    Well it's cleaner and it runs win win sort of .Well done sir Brent thank you for sharing

  • @davidcooper3337
    @davidcooper3337 Рік тому +26

    Do these engines run timing chains? Maybe the tensioner pads are melted and the chain is slapping .

    • @byrdsdoityourselfgarage7330
      @byrdsdoityourselfgarage7330 Рік тому

      Very good point!!!!

    • @stomper2582
      @stomper2582 Рік тому

      I thought it might be coming from that end of the motor too. He did have to change the timing gear cover. 😮

  • @GarH56
    @GarH56 Рік тому +10

    That fork lift is ideal for your work.That long reach is great.

  • @retiredbutnotdead9929
    @retiredbutnotdead9929 Рік тому +6

    There is a reason it is making that rubbing noise. Timing chains, flywheels, tensioners and what ever else that is connected to the crankshaft….what ever it is, the engine ran pretty good for it being in a fire. I agree with you….. it is a win.. you will probably find the cause by accident….

  • @2tana22
    @2tana22 Рік тому +1

    Try the ol hose trick to the ear and move around the engine to center in where the noise is, how about a electrical spark, it’s a very constant sound, turn the lights out , might see a steady flash….my first thought was timing chain

  • @davidwaskiewicz3289
    @davidwaskiewicz3289 Рік тому +1

    Check the crank sensor, and see if it’s hitting the reluctor wheel?

  • @MrSparks54
    @MrSparks54 Рік тому +5

    6.0 truck motors have cast iron heads. My 2009 Silverado 2500HD has iron heads. 14 years of trouble free reliability. She'll be fine, just needs new accessories and a cleanup. Thanks Brent! Cheers from Utah.

  • @grahamcook1212
    @grahamcook1212 Рік тому +16

    Is the ringer on the starter motor touching on the flex plate when it’s going on mate??? Cheers, have a great day 🍻👍

  • @jasonseal2692
    @jasonseal2692 Рік тому +2

    I had an old harmonic balancer that had spun on the rubber, made a heck of a noise. Maybe the fire melted the dampener rubber?? It does sound like one of those old “rattler” balancers.
    Anyway, I’m very confident Pablo will lead you to it soon. 😂

  • @DanHancock-e7o
    @DanHancock-e7o 11 місяців тому

    Brent you my man are persistent and patient "bearing pains or trials calmly or without complaint!" keep up the great videos!

  • @johndraper9065
    @johndraper9065 Рік тому +1

    Your freaking amazing... who would of thought... and it doesn't even smoke!

  • @S.O.S64
    @S.O.S64 Рік тому +1

    Wow ! Sir you're the only person on UA-cam I've ever seen do this. When you trimmed that wiring harness,all I could do was shake my head. There's no way I would've even thought about doing what all you done. They should call you the Modern Day Mc Gyver. Best at what you hands down. My hats off to ya Sir. Many Blessings to you and the family ❤😊

  • @alanrouse7285
    @alanrouse7285 Рік тому +1

    The pink wires are 5v reference power for the sensors, not meant to have 12v run thru them .

  • @ruagold
    @ruagold Рік тому +2

    To me, that is a win! from what it was to it running, that's a big win, you'll find what the problem, keep on keeping on 👍

  • @rockydavies9555
    @rockydavies9555 Рік тому +1

    Spray Nine is a awesome degreaser it will clean it up right pretty

  • @klapaucius77
    @klapaucius77 Рік тому +1

    Nice work, I think the grease/dirt on the engine insulated it from the heat 🤣 I'm glad she lives again!

  • @WallaceHolland-s2g
    @WallaceHolland-s2g Рік тому +3

    Sounds like the reluctor wheel rubbing on something. Possibly the crank position sensor partially melted and out of position?

  • @Chevypowered5766
    @Chevypowered5766 Рік тому +4

    It’s hard to hear any noise on the video but I believe you there’s a noise. As many other people have said your flex plate might be the problem could be to light and the plate may be rubbing. I also when back and rewatched the video and zoomed in and I think I saw flex plate did looking like it may have a slight bend in it so that may be rubbing a little bit. Will keep trying to figure it out I will let you know if I think of anything else. Later

  • @just4guitar558
    @just4guitar558 Рік тому +1

    Being it went through the almighty of a heat cycle….. there could be several of the lifters out of round and not fully traveling in their bores, making both rattle and drag noises.
    Best bet would be to give her the Ol’ wooden dowel listen and pinpoint precisely where the noise is actually coming from.
    To me, it sounds like a warped reluctor wheel….. but, that would be at the rear. Not under/around cylinder 4.
    If it’s NOT the reluctor. It’s some pretty serious piston slap. Like the piston is rocking back and forth multiple times with each revolution.
    Sounds serrated, w/e it is.
    First thought was that wobbly looking flexplate. Its teeth don’t look boogered, tho.
    Can’t wait to find out what you learn!

  • @tarbogas66
    @tarbogas66 Рік тому +1

    It was fun to watch ya and see this LS coming back to life after all it went through with that fire. Hope that you'll find the source of the noise. Later !

  • @JohnSmith-is8nq
    @JohnSmith-is8nq Рік тому +5

    Man these things are tough !! ...almost as tough as you, my man.
    Big HELL YEAH from a fellow canuck somewhere in Quebec.

  • @stephensignor7848
    @stephensignor7848 Рік тому +1

    Just a thought but as a last resort you could try pulling the dipstick out a little ways to see of that is it. You did mention the potential.

  • @andrewelliot5516
    @andrewelliot5516 Рік тому +1

    just rev it until the noise stops - I would have said rod bolts hitting the windage tray but valvtrain maybe?

  • @johnmaher4300
    @johnmaher4300 Рік тому +1

    Great video metal master, enjoyed watching with a cold beer big ups 😎

  • @bigbill709
    @bigbill709 Рік тому +10

    That motor looks to be in good shape for the shape it's in.😮

  • @steve-gp1nc
    @steve-gp1nc Рік тому +16

    The man never gives up! 💯

  • @mwaofvt
    @mwaofvt Рік тому +1

    A bent windage try? but also sound like the start gear is not completely seated..hmmm
    I know you'll find because that is who you are.....Keep the faith, Love the Vids! Build On!!!

  • @calebbell5018
    @calebbell5018 Рік тому +2

    An amazing video Brent! Way more sketch than most videos? Loved it!

  • @jimallison4350
    @jimallison4350 Рік тому +5

    i'd check the oil pump. The centering of them is delicate and with heat it could have developed a rub

  • @michaelfrancis7072
    @michaelfrancis7072 Рік тому +1

    He picks up an engine that's burnt to a crisp and says "I don't see why it shouldn't run". Priceless.

  • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
    @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Рік тому +10

    Huge undertakiing- very ambitious! Loved the burnout in the last episode too bro!!!

  • @stevebulach5198
    @stevebulach5198 Рік тому +7

    Given the Balancer was cooked, could the timing chains/guides have been affected by the fire, or a bit of crap floating around? My first idea was the Windage tray, but that seems to not have any rub marks.... Self clearance is my only other solution 🤣. Cheers from Australia😃👍

  • @joesorce6674
    @joesorce6674 Рік тому

    I’m 76 years old and watched you build the General It inspired me for one more build. I’m doing a 1947 Dodge pickup on a Chevy 4x4 frame and running gear . So I call it a Dodgrolet. I’ll send pictures when I figure how to. Sorry to see what happened to your shop. Can’t wait to see you in the new shop.

  • @tedhewitt4299
    @tedhewitt4299 Рік тому +11

    You are a patient man Brett.

  • @jamesrucker
    @jamesrucker Рік тому +6

    Hope the Motor is good and love your videos

  • @Mr.Innovator961
    @Mr.Innovator961 Рік тому +1

    Time to use your mechanics stethoscope to narrow down where the noise is concentrated…had similar noise years ago ended up being one of the bolts on the flex plate rubbing.

  • @sandrapoyner1353
    @sandrapoyner1353 Рік тому +1

    Good donk for tall T 👍👍👍👍🇦🇺😁

  • @bmacd2112
    @bmacd2112 Рік тому +1

    The old line, "The operation was a complete success but the patient died!" comes to mind. 🤣 I don't think it could be anything major or the engine just wouldn't run that well. The only thing that comes to mind is the timing chain slapping the cover. But I expect you already looked for evidence of that. Is it possible that the oil pan is slightly more shallow than the one you took off? Perhaps the oil sump tube is tapping against the bottom of the pan.

  • @MC-oi3br
    @MC-oi3br Рік тому +1

    Sound like the lifters needs to pump up. Make sure you have the right wires going to coils and injectors, you might have one crossed.

  • @dougaranda6187
    @dougaranda6187 Рік тому +4

    Like another feller said, you don’t usually have your ear right next to the oil pan. Probably a normal noise. Regardless, that was entertaining!

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Рік тому +12

    Glad to see you working hard again. It’s been a long road. Cant wait to see more updates an projects and many more videos soon Brett. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.

  • @dalemac7355
    @dalemac7355 Рік тому +1

    I'm sitting here in Las Vegas watching you and the first time it kicked off and died you started laughing, well I was laughing also and I think we where thinking the say thing " Holy Crap Batman"

  • @jeffwilson3865
    @jeffwilson3865 Рік тому

    At least the old motor runs maybe not race worthy but runs. You never give up that's one of your good characters. Absolutely love all the videos you make never a dull moment 👍👍.

  • @AndrewHCann
    @AndrewHCann Рік тому +1

    Excellent video Brent :) , Pablo The Supervisor Dog 🐕, I say check Crankshaft pulley if of timing marks if not maybe Crankshaft out balance from heat from fire plus Camshaft too ! Maybe piston rings needs change on every cylinders too and hopefully find out why also be almost anything maybe last one be PSI on each cylinders different too ! So many things are possible but get resolved soon Brent :) ! Don't Forget Have Some Nice Sleep On To and if comes mind when sleeping write down before forget it is!

  • @born2soon
    @born2soon Рік тому +1

    The head of a bolt on the flywheel is catching on something back there. That's where my money is bet.

  • @Jamesroberts98
    @Jamesroberts98 Рік тому +2

    My guess is the top took more heat than the lower end and you have cam bearings spinning.

  • @keonikaig9247
    @keonikaig9247 Рік тому +5

    Love hangin' with you Brent...
    Goood to c the supervisor hangin' with ya too. 🐶
    Amazing what you did with that engine...👍
    awesome knowledge brother 🤠
    Amazing grace...🙏
    YES , IT'S STILL A WIN

  • @timhardison4084
    @timhardison4084 Рік тому

    You certainly took a lemon and made lemonade. Great work and I appreciate your always positive outlook. I know you will get that rattle solved.

  • @theodoreharper4565
    @theodoreharper4565 Рік тому +4

    Hello Brent, you are amazing. I just got through cleaning the three major black and white engine grounds, and both knock sensors on my sister's 2007 5.3 chevy. I should have waited for this video. Your knowledge and watching you is educational, teaches us not to give up, and troubleshoot our way through. Another excellent video, thank you again and I will be waiting for the next class Master Tech.

  • @jackmehoff2961
    @jackmehoff2961 Рік тому +1

    Minty !
    Thank You for sharing your video, and letting us hang out .
    Later ...

  • @GlennBokma
    @GlennBokma Рік тому +5

    Hello, Great videos. The first time cranking it sounded like the flexplate was hitting something on the back of the block or a bolt on the engine stand. Best wishes. With the shake at idle, I'd do a compression test.

  • @kshsghahah5631
    @kshsghahah5631 Рік тому +4

    Pablo speaks a Brett listens!!!!

  • @ehguy3628
    @ehguy3628 Рік тому +1

    Have you looked in the lifter valley? Top end/lots of moving parts to check out.

  • @burtnelson1987
    @burtnelson1987 Рік тому +3

    On the video, it sounds like lifters. However, I have heard cracked flywheels sound the same way. About drove me crazy trying to find that. Outside of that, it 's a win in my book too. Considering what it went through and how it looked, running at all is just plain amazing. Good job!

  • @allanimalstaxi
    @allanimalstaxi Рік тому

    She alive! Great job and great save. Leave to you to figure out that the burnt LS 6 engine could be saved. Great video, take care

  • @orange72mc71
    @orange72mc71 Рік тому +1

    I ran a 400 sbc.on a engine stand and had a similar noise. Turned out to be the flexplate barely rubbing on the engine stand.

  • @dougstaner1220
    @dougstaner1220 Рік тому +3

    When you absolutely need to know if you have a running engine... lol Remarkable setup you got there Brent. We will not try that at home. laughing. LOVE IT

  • @alward9901
    @alward9901 Рік тому +1

    Hi Brent. Wild Guess before I go to bed . Timing distributor ? 🤔 bad plug. Vacuum problem. Good night 🤚🙏

  • @kevinboardman3060
    @kevinboardman3060 Рік тому +7

    Great job buddy, I’m glad that you at least had one to be able to save. It’s sad too loose so many toys, but I totally have faith in you. Your friend always. Kevin

  • @garryness7213
    @garryness7213 Рік тому +3

    Use oven cleaner to clean the grunge off that engine. Better than any degreaser I’ve tried.

    • @notajp
      @notajp Рік тому

      Uncle Tony did a test a short time ago and said that the cheap Dollar Tree brand did better than the name brand stuff.

  • @neilmcrobbie7010
    @neilmcrobbie7010 Рік тому +1

    I think you are meaning windage traythat keeps crank from churning thru the oil in the pan.......another issue could be a crank or cam position sensor is making contact with the target on shaft

  • @bigmackstruckstop9213
    @bigmackstruckstop9213 Рік тому +1

    I'm not sure either, but I hope it is a simple fix and hopefully you can find, it sounds great and I'll catch ya on the next one

  • @bigbill709
    @bigbill709 Рік тому +8

    Any idea if your merchandise shop will ever get those bucket hats like you wear from time to time in stock ?

    • @HalfassKustoms
      @HalfassKustoms  Рік тому

      Think you can get em here halfass-kustoms.myspreadshop.ca/halfass+kustoms+logo-A6342de835d67384d00e8cecd?productType=1462&sellable=yrZ0pL7ENkF1NpOBML9w-1462-36&appearance=2&size=29

    • @gerardolopez5875
      @gerardolopez5875 Рік тому

      @@HalfassKustoms@ did u found the issue??? Also , are the aluminum heads deom a 6liter or a 5.3???

  • @miguelsolo6810
    @miguelsolo6810 Рік тому +9

    You sir are the poster=man for "Winners never quit " and I salute you .👋👋👋👍

  • @leonanderson4727
    @leonanderson4727 Рік тому

    Hello Brent, I enjoyed walking through the steps at getting the 6l LS started. I like those because they sound like real powerhouses when tuned to top performance. I am glad to see someone fix up that wiring harness. It sort of boggles the mind, but all those computerized sensors need complete circuits to function. If everything checks out for that noise externally, then it must be coming from the cam of lifters. However, according to my sound perception, it sure sounds like a loose timing chain. Maybe the routing guides softened up and not insulating the chain. Not sure if it has any. Visually it may be not noticeable. However, you will be running around in circles if you listen to us. Lol

  • @DennisMurphey
    @DennisMurphey Рік тому +1

    Sounds like a piece of metal is rubbing on the flywheel teeth. ???? Or the Starter hanging up slighty and the pinion hitting the flywheel teeth like barely. ????

  • @robbieautrey3158
    @robbieautrey3158 Рік тому +2

    Great video Brent, I'm very impressed that you got that engine running again. You sure make all that wiring look easy, i'm sure you will figure out just what that little noise is. It doesn't sound too serious to me. Good luck with it..

  • @cheryllcombs5495
    @cheryllcombs5495 Рік тому +2

    Awesome job 🎉win win I like it that you never give up keep up the awesome videos😊😊

  • @lancemclean9273
    @lancemclean9273 Рік тому +4

    This was a wild one- what a marathon- but ya- considering what you started with- definitely a win. Can’t be anything too serious

  • @daleking8529
    @daleking8529 Рік тому +1

    I would call it a win! Toward the last it was vibrating like maybe a miss?? Let us know when you find what it is rubbing. Take care.

  • @utooobur
    @utooobur Рік тому

    Not an expert on LS engines but that hasn't stopped a lot of comments so I am therefore encouraged to add mine. I believe that this an AFM LS. There are, lifters with springs on top of them to keep them in contact with the rockers when deactivated. They maybe partially collasped since there seems to be no miss. They fail alot in normal operations and yours was exposed to excessive heat. They fail so much that there is a delete kit on the market and talk of a law suite against GM for a fix. Than again it could be the anti wiggle rod out of balance.

  • @dayslife
    @dayslife Рік тому +5

    well Brent, that sure was a great project, love when you revive things that no one would ever attempt , cheers! 👍🍺🍺🍺🍺