Dr. Cornel West on Protests, Bernie's Campaign, His New Podcast, and Much More | Useful Idiots
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Dr. Cornel West joins the show (for the first time) for a wide-ranging conversation about his new podcast The Tightrope, what went wrong for Bernie’s campaign and why he had endorsed Sanders again in 2020, and the tactical efficacy of violent vs. nonviolent protesting.
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Nobody has a better fundamental critique of empire than Dr.West
He's not a racist lol
Gore Vidal and Howard Zinn are no longer with us so its up to Dr West, Chris Hedges, Jimmy Dore, The real journos at the Grayzone and a few others
I could listen to Dr Cornel West for hours and hour without tiring. I've learned a lot f th on him. Thank you guys got having him on.
He makes me think of things I already know but never considered the significance of.
He calls out exactly how we’re failing and why, how movements for social change get sabotaged and co-opted.
I don’t get why more people can’t accept what he says about how you can vote for neoliberals like Biden whenever the alternative is worse, but still not pretend to like it; be honest about how awful they are
Abe
He also doesn’t hate the people he disagrees with. If you have any right leaning apolitically you can actually talk and listen without fearing being accused of being some monstrous person for seeing things slightly differently.
Abe I go a little further. I love Dr. West and revere the man, but voting for Biden when he is aware of what Biden has done and is capable of doing is pulling a Bernie- choosing belonging over revolution. Every single last one of our still-breathing wise men and media figures should be doing what Chris Hedges is doing, and yelling about the Greens. The economic bill of rights including singlepayer M4A is On. The. Ballot. To ignore that under any circumstances you might as well disenfranchise yourself right now, and to do that under covid and increasing violence to blacks and their allies, you might as well sign your own death warrant. Between 100M and 120M voting-age Americans sat out 2016. If the Greens could reach them, neither old rapist would stand a chance.
Massive respect to Mr. West. Stark, honest, thorough and devastating observations all. When he ended with: don’t let anybody steal your joy, somehow it helped. And he’s right Katy and Matt, what you both are doing is so important and appreciated.
Peace love and good wishes from nz. Dr west you raise the spirits of people all round the world thank you
The quality of guests on this show is amazing especially recently
john doe it’s important to have varying opinions and as a huge Bernie fan myself I was happy to hear critic of his campaign. Putting your head in the sand is wrong for neoliberals and it’s wrong for us too 🤷🏼♂️
@@vegahimsa I agree it's good to have differing viewpoints. Is he right to call out Bernie for bending the knee? Absolutely. I do think Jimmy Dore was over the top in his assertion that Sanders' campaign was just a nefarious ploy to neuter progressives. Dore's all-or-nothing thinking ignores the simple fact that human beings, including Bernie, are complicated, and that he believes in what he ran on, but not enough to (in Bernie's mind) risk getting Trump re-elected.
@john doe Yeah I skipped that one. I was disappointed they brought back Jimmy Dore. Lee Camp is an amazing political comedian -- they need to bring him on.
@@db1o.926 Oh and Dore is an unbelievable hypocrite. He was a groupie for Tulsi Gabbard who is extremely problematic, far more so than Bernie.
@@Notecrusher I keep hearing about Tulsi being problematic. I don't know much about her, except her opposition to "regime change wars" and calling out the DNC when it actively undermined Bernie's campaign in 2016. I'll have to look more into her record.
Thanks for having Dr. West as your guest! And yes Matt, he raised my mood too!
O hell ya! My 2 favorite journalists interviewing the God among men Cornell West. Hell ya.
Let's see if they can make this a bi-monthly podcast
Lmaooooo. Man, the Halps is so underappreciated. She's hilarious asf and got a sharper wit than any mainstream comic.
She is my goddess of snark....
I like her more and more. She’s hilarious and says things I think need saying
absolutely, the more i watch these two the more impressed i am with them. they seem like really good people, great personalities
@@Winnertthefallen I just like listening to people who like each other talking to each other. I miss being at home or the dorm life, where you could be nearby and lightly engaged with the people talking around you but not fully committed, yet still feeling like you're socializing
I dunno if it's a niche feeling, but its a very little amount of effort to feel not lonely
Really on her game here, what a pleasure.
The indespensible duo + the incomparably awesome Dr. West.
Mr. West is one of the most educational person I have ever listen to
@Neil O. OK then, how about a substantive critique instead of empty condescension?
Harry Moorehouse any suggestions?
Amazing depth of knowledge.
Problem with our American universities, not enough Cornel Wests teaching in them.....
@John Johnson Why is teaching the youth that black folks matters = hating white pplz to yo folkz, im white, i like (most of) my race, doesnt mean i dont cherrish a black dude teaching the youth reality...
The idiotic comment in response to yours-about "white hating racist communists"-perfectly exemplifies what Dr. West pointed out about American culture being profoundly anti-intellectual.
John Johnson JUSTICE does not require HATE. EQUALITY does not require hate. In fact, Dr Cornell West uses love and unity to bind people together to oppose oppression, greed, and unlawful war.
@@sivertberg8920 Come on. You don't know reality. You live in your own world. Listening to opinions; making judgments and calling it reality. You THINK you know reality. ALL PEOPLE MATTER that is what reality is and should be taught. Otherwise, racism is still being fed. I'm in my sixties; there is no white privilege. Not for six decades now. The elite psychopath billionaire masters don't count. The media brought racism back to life and the opportunists are feeding the flames to keep it going. Stop this bs. We need to focus on the destruction of America by design and stand together. (that's laughable) Keep believing lies, stay divided and we all suffer the fate of tyranny and death. That's reality.
American unis have enough Marxism as it is, what you NEED more Thomas Sowell.
This was fantastic! Thank you so much, Katie and Matt, for your thoughtful questions.
I like what Katie says about the neo-liberals wanting the colorful Top 10% - still keeping the inequality-lite.
Having to argue with people who think that’s what everyone on the left is just drains me man.
Allen Sommerby I believe the stance and positions on the left have been hijacked by neo-liberal elites and money interests, but the average citizen with good values does not want to be associated with these neo-liberal elitist hijackers or explain how their platforms are not representative of real left values.
These types are Hillary Clinton supporters
There's no such thing as a "neo-liberal."
Neoliberalism is an ideology. It's basically libertarian economics. Both Republicans and Democrats are neoliberal. Every President since Gerald Ford has been neoliberal.
The people you're talking about are not neo-liberals ... they're just liberals. Liberals have always been cleverly-concealed Right-Wingers.
In fact, if Americans had any real degree of political acumen, they would understand that Liberals and Conservatives are the same thing.
@@itzenormous No, it's libertarian economics *combined with social liberalism.* The social liberalism is supposed to provide cover for the economic liberalism. This is the part the left can't seem to grasp. If you did grasp it, you would see how you're being used in precisely the same way capitalists used to use the socially conservative and religious right a generation ago.
Love this talk by Dr.Cornel West! One of my fave lefties. He's right, this country will commit suicide before it gives up the Market Culture.
LSD can change that.
Good people, love this podcast. 😎
They are both so damn good
Best new show of 2019
Great show & interview! Cornel West is truly an awesome dude.
Never clicked faster
...but always stopping at Cornel West
I needed the hit of serotonin that I new West was gonna give us
Matt Taibbi to me my Generations greatest reporter a newsman ,that's what's up ..
I learned so much from his rolling Stones articles not because I bought the magazine but I was dating a girl who's X used to get rolling stone magazine during the 2008 crisis after it he wrote about that whole thing that changed my life ...Anyway Iam a HUGE fan GO MATT GO ...
I recently got his book “Hate Inc.” it is so fucking good! Just so damn smart!
@@cnow82 Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. Everyone should read that book - 10/10.
I think that vampire squids put him on my radar, and I’ve been following him since.
@ Also, Thomas Frank.
I was on a Seattle city bus toward Lynnwood WA in 2015 and saw him reading The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. That was a good choice but I thought he would have read it before.
America needs to honor these spiritual intellectuals
Katy and Matt are rare individuals; they're both brilliant and modest. We love this program.
Lmao! “Mitch McConnell looks like a turtle, but not this turtle.”
It's true, he looks more like the Turtle Wax turtle.
Ohh grow up
Steven Haefner
That is a turtle that looks very much like Mitch.
Bizzaro World - ??? I just found it funny that she was actually comparing him to a picture of a turtle and actually commenting on it but I see that you need to act like you’re so much better than everyone else . 🙄
I don’t think he even looks like a turtle and anyway it’s an insult to turtles.
Mitch McConnell's outsides looks like his insides. I find both sides repulsive.
Yes!!! You guys are the best
Brother West and brother Hedges should start a podcast together.
I'd listen to that
That ... right there. Yes!!
I'd spend the time in between podcasts doing homework! It'd be sociology, international affairs and classical literature all wrapped into one.
A wonderful conversation. Thank you .
I love Dr. West.
This is MILES ABOVE every interview you’ve had so far. Well done guys.
Cornell is as good as it gets.
Truly.
@William Oarlock Couldn't disagree more.
Thank you for bringing Dr. Cornel on. I was considerably uplifted but also grateful for his frank discussion. Fantastic.
Wish i could give this more than 1 Thumbs Up guys.
Great Show, Cornel is a great speaker.
You made this place for me to give an extra thumbs up
EXCELLENT! the 3 of you fit just right !
Thank you Dr. West for calling out Jim Clybur on his bullshit and corruption!
Great show. Thank you all for your great work.
Honestly, I love this show. Katie had me rolling about laughing today. Thanks guys, you're the best x
Brilliant interview too...
She is hilarious!
Thank you so much for doing this podcast. Also thank you for having one of my favorite people in the world. Keep it up!!!
Get him back whenever you can! Great show, great work!👍🏼✊🏼✌🏼
Love love loved this episode! Dr. Cornel West is a national treasure! Thank you Matt and Katie!
I'm a simple man... I see Brother West and I click, like and comment (I'm already subscribed)
Very good, Dr. West answered my questions about Sen. Sanders. This was a powerful conversation, well done!!
I think that the Fox News porno parody was the most sincere joy I've even seen from Matt. He genuinely found that so funny that it was contagious. Super fun segment.
Another out-of-the-park hit guys. Keep it up! Great education for the masses. True journalism.
totally agree matt listening to Dr West did improve my mood.
Dr. West is a great leader and intellectual! Thank you for interviewing him!
Someone should ask H. Clinton if she still carries hot sauce in her purse?
LeeRoy Allen hahahahaha right?!? 🎤drop
She stopped carrying hot sauce in her bag the moment the Beyoncé song she stole that line from was no longer trending as prominently.
AlI would ask her is *Does she have cyanide in her purse, and Will she take it now?*
Ohh she still panders...just not on black talk radio anymore
@kiloscott 🤣 I was thinking she was probably using the bottle for that same purpose. ✊👈
Watching this again and it gets even better, love hearing Dr. Cornel West just speaking, he has wisdom and I love that he talks how music is so special
I'm here for Dr. West. Wish Chris Hedges was with him also
Always refreshing and invigorating listening to Dr West. Thank you
Jimmy Dore’s gotta get Cornel on
That's never gonna happen. Cornel made a shift to get famous alongside Bernie and in doing that, he became an establishment-progressive like Bernie. Which is to say: A fraud. Establishment Democrats and their self-serving attention-wh**ing hyenas like Cornel and Bernie never talk to people who talks as if they have nothing to lose, people like Jimmy Dore. Cornel is currently surfing for attention (i.e. money) on the last waves of the movement he unknowingly helped Bernie intentionally kill. He would never go on someone's show and subject himself to the reality of Bernie being a fraud, after he's spent five years hustling people (with the whole range of black intellectual antics) into thinking he's not.
@@HansJrgenFurfjord I just want you to know, anyone who has a problem with Cornel west is a freak and everyone knows it.
You are a freak, dude
@@HansJrgenFurfjord And what exactly are you basing your assessment of Cornel West on? How exactly is he an "establishment progressive"? That would be news to many who hate Cornel West for consistently calling out (in no uncertain terms) the popular Obama as a murderous neoliberal throughout his presidency and voted for Jill Stein over Hillary Clinton, among many other things that runn counter to your claims. So again, what are your claims based on?
@@HansJrgenFurfjord Jimmy has nothing to lose? What sacrifices has Jimmy made for the progressive movt?
Has he even joined a single protest since corona started?
@@TCt83067695 he's not physically/medically able to join but he has devoted plenty of airtime and support
Dr. West brought me to tears. Such a beautiful soul!
A brilliant interview.
Thanks for this! It gets harder every day to stay optimistic... a good long dose of listening to Cornel West talk always helps.
The interview with Mr. West begins 28:05
You're welcome.
This was one of the best ones yet. He is so joyful
Brother Cornel is a national treasure! Thanks for doing this Katie and Matt.
I disagree, I think they thought Bernie would win against Trump and that’s why they did everything to get could to get rid of him.
I think it was a bit of both. Based on their initial condescending incredulity on MSNBC, CNN, etc., they probably thought he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell because they're so out of touch and couldn't fathom that someone crazy enough to call himself a democratic socialist would get large support in "Murica." They also assumed Biden, the embodiment of self-entitled mediocrity riding on Obama's coattails, would run away with this thing. I think establishment Dems only started panicking when they realized that Biden wasn't catching fire and that's when they desperately tried to make Harris, Pete, Amy, even fake progressive Warren (pragmatic = I will happily tinker around the edges) happen. When they had to admit reality and saw Bernie surging, they were probably like "oh shit, this guy could actually beat Trump and cost us our cushy gravy trains."
Db1 O. I think it’s more the “oh shit” part from the beginning. They first tried ignoring him, then they trashed him with all kinds of crazy stuff from his body language, to trying to figure out how to call him anti Semitic. It would have all been amusing if it wasn’t so damaging because the media played a big roll, along with voter fraud to stop Bernie. That was their big fear, they always knew Bernie would win against Trump and what a disruption that would have been. Oh god, no more kick backs, being held accountable and stop being ignorant regurgitating fools, the shock of it all! And as you said, it would have effected their pockets and that was the bottom line. So instead they helped crush our spirits and took hope away from all of us. And they all left us with Biden. Never.
Trump won his election against all odds.
Millenials and zoomers failed Bernie and the progressive movt.
Cornell West - humility and genius! Thx for this one...
American politics - "This ain't Wednesday Night at the Apollo" - lol :)
"You have to Fortify your soul in such a way that nobody ever is able to steal your joy, your precious memories, your style and your smile". Great quote. Fortify the soul first and maybe we can get real change.
Oh! My god I love this podcast and you both! *crosses legs*
And Rolling Stone being the sole proprietor... uhhhhhh
Amazing interview, thanks so much!
"Very Virginia Woolfian." That's why I love Katie.
...now if only she moves past Bernie and Co. #Green Party
I really love her too. She's so good. Everyone always talks about Matt's writing; Imo, the shows success is due to Katie's presence. This cast would suck w/o her.
Great show as usual guys! Keep up the good work.
Best episode ever, my vocabulary got enriched by so many phrases, "boner obfuscation", "boner cover-up", "porn the news", "good porning america",...Katie should have been on the writers team at Seinfeld, she would have come up with something even more memorable than "significant shrinkage". Great to hear from Cornell West - absolute legend!
Just watched this a second time, because listening to Dr. Cornel West is like a magical elixir for me, (and as a left wing blues/soul musician from New Orleans with a political science degree, 3 grown sons, & a full PLATTER of PTSD that goes back to Hurricane Katrina🤦🏻♀️,) it’s just always a beautiful thing to hear Dr. West’s perfect expression of the exact sentiments I feel right now, but with the utmost brilliance, intellect, and SOUL! 🙏
Brother Cornel West is like a freakin GIFT and a NATIONAL TREASURE! Without fail, Dr. West brings an exquisitely honest expression to the table every time, whether it’s a lecture, an interview, a debate or forum; he’s such a deep truth teller, both in his brilliant academic intellect and in his heart on his sleeve that id somehow constantly overflowing with love and compassion, as always for those who are fighting the hardest battles.
I know it’s where I’m always gonna go when I need to be infused with LOVE & HOPE in the face of our country’s MORAL BLACKOUT! Listening to him is my self-medication and soul-meditation! It’s like once you’ve gotten aboard the Love Train, it’s an experience that’s simultaneously enlightening AND healing. Whether he’s (with great humility) commenting and expounding upon socio-politics, injustice, inequality, Greek philosophers, GREAT MUSICIANS and MUSICAL IMPROVISATION, history, electoral politics, recommending various works of great writers and artists, and so on... his refreshing, inspiring, and spiritually uplifting voice is an elixir to the weary soul, the broken heart, and the worried mind.
So I try to always remember to listen to some Sam Cooke & Lou Rawls and the Soul Stirrers, James Brown, Bobby Blue Bland, Charlie Parker, Johnny Taylor, Nina Simone, Buddy Guy, George Clinton, (and because I’m from New Orleans~ some Johnny Adams, James Carroll Booker, John Boutte, Snooks Eaglin, Lee Dorsey, Allen Toussaint, Rebirth Brass Band, Cyril Neville, Earl King, Meters, & Willie Tee, ,) and then of course 👉some Impressions and Curtis Mayfield , Keep On Pushin!!! 🎶💟☮️
Hillary is endorsing him most likely because she owes him, he has been around even back when she was a senator!
Very good brother from another mother. Human 2.0
Laudon1780 My thought was that she wanted him to owe HER. She still has agendas.
Or she's just being spiteful and vindictive against progressives- especially ones endorsed by Bernie. The Karen's of the world still listen to her, unfortunately, though even their numbers are thinning. Her endorsement is certainly the kiss of death for the rest of us actually on the left, but hopefully her endorsement helps to promote the excellent progressive running against her guy. He may have a real shot now.
They're all in the Big Club.
...and you ain't in it. :)
Owes, owns him. She'll also be able to push her agenda via Harris (assuming she's his VP). Biden is a empty shell that will be controlled by those around him.
"make a joyful noise" and you did! A truly beautiful thing ❤️
Wow, that was a beautiful interview
Great show!! I knew Dr. West would bring the heat!!
Matt looks depressed, I hope not, after writing a great article about the media, and the media, mostly the so called left corporate media started attacking him maybe he's a little tired of deflecting punches, but men you have to get up and counter attack
"Left corporate media" is an oxymoron
Until they went in on Charlie Kirk, which of course is great medicine for depression.
Yea Matt got piled on by everybody. I hope he realizes there are people who admire his journalistic integrity.
@@nohbuddy1 hence the "so-called" qualifier~^^
He deserves immense respect for writing that article, and doing so despite the torrent of abuse that was the inevitable outcome of its publication.
Dr. West is truly a modern day philosopher in his own right. Great interview Matt and Katie!✌🏾
Wow! Dr. Cornel was SO good. In the end capitalism must be brought down in order to bring ecomnic justice to everyone and to give the planet and our species a chance for survival.
Pretty presumptive to think history will have an end other than obliteration
@@quinnolivarez6911 it would be presumption in any case.
A sincere thank you for this life-affirming, soul-salving episode...
A poll of divorced men responded that Hillary Clinton reminded them of their ex- wife’s.
oh you mean my dad's second wife
❤️ The best segment ever, thank you.
Wait a just a minute. You folks switched sides!! This is all too much. Katie has to be on the right side of the screen for god's sake.
It feels like when you try to sleep on the other side of the bed...this is Dan's fault!!!
I kept thinking something was off...that’s it, you nailed it!
Disorienting.
Masterclass on life, everytime Dr. Cornel West speaks.
"Boner Obfuscation..." You have won my heart Katy Halper!
Could listen to this dude all day everyday....
Cornel West: "we in America are such a profoundly anti-intellectual culture." In other words, "stupid." Don't sugar coat it, Dr. West 😂.
there is a difference between the two. Stupid could mean ignorance while anti-intellectual means that people are opposed to the acquisition of knowledge and the process of dialogue/debate
We are a nation of gullible fools incapable of critical thinking
@@jamesmedina2062 the two go hand-in-hand. I don't see how being anti-intellectual cannot ultimately lead to stupidity.
James Medina Yes, and anti-intellectualism also produces suspicion of expertise and a tendency to rely instead on people who express (and arouse) strong emotions. Feeling, not thought, is how Americans navigate the world; you can even hear it in our verbal preference for expressing an opinion with "I feel like," rather than "I think" or "I believe."
Occupynewparadigm, oh yes it was. I'm almost 79 and most of mylifemostofthepeople zi met were very stupid and anti intellectual. They did not read much besides street signs and beer labels. They didn't think much beyond what they were told by preachers or politicians. Popular culture was their light in the dark. A three syllable word was ridiculed and the new was suspect. There were exceptions but they were few.
The commentary about the Charlie Kirk interview was soooo funny. Thank you Katie!
Best line: “heyyy, save space for Picasso!”
Thank you Matt and Katie for this interview. Thank you Cornel.
I was perplexed why the banks weren't burned down.
What do people think is valuable?
Economic institutions, or Gucci?
That’s actually are pretty sad sign of where their heads are at. They’re not selling those clothes either, they’re going to wear them.
Think about looting a store to protest being held down, just so you can wear that shit and try to fit in with the same side holding you down after.
People are lost man.
all the money is online
Much easier to burn down a black-owned barber shop and the offices of La Raza.
Answer: Elect Biden, and take one breath, then be a left-opposition.
You're not going to hurt banks by burning down branches, all the assets are digitally backed and it's all insured anyway. You're better off going after actual CEOs but haha good luck with that.
Katie & Matt you have great humor on your show. So appreciated!
just dropping by to like and comment. saving this for my evening cozy viewing
Enjoy~^^
@@eemoogee160 it's the little comforts :D
Dr cornel always holds me spellbound, with interruptions of laughter. How captivating and poetic his intellectual dialogue is..besides being historically and politically brutally on the bullseye. Every sentence is so full of depth you must listen twice. I respect him tremendously. How can one not?
I never totally got the appeal of Cornel West before this, but watching this he’s Zarathustra: he’s old, mad, and wise, and understands all of this.
I could LITERALLY listen to Dr. West for hours. Can you imagine being in one of his lectures or classes and get the opportunity to learn from him?? Maybe it's just me lol
What about all the Great White Sharks in the Senate along with the Turdle (no, that is the correct spelling)!✊🏼✌🏼
Brother West thank you for your company in this walk of life..
Everything that television could have been in 90 minutes.
I'd love to have the Cornell West reading list!
Education, education,education. That's the only platform that can bring about change.
The Sanders coalition has to continue to organize, forever.
And most of all, do everything with LOVE!
The leftwing name drop for the Irish is James Connolly.
iww legend
Right on Brother West!👍🏼✊🏼✌🏼
I like that they have an unofficial “animal talk” segment every week
This man is a genius! Love his views and his critiques of the political establishment.
“Good Porning America” - Katie 👏👏👏🥱😂
Seems like she stole the idea from episode 2 of Killer Mike’s new series on Netflix called Trigger Warning.
My hero!!!!! What a great class from Dr West. This is a fantastic interview, Matt and Katie.
"We no longer have the luxury of not killing sharks." Halper put me on the floor again.
pat jay ROFL
🤣 She did it again to me too hahaha
It lifted my mood to hear from him for sure. What a gem.
Kirk is a clown. Kyle destroyed him at Politicon.
Kirk is a clown, but Kyle didn't destroy him at Politicon.
@@BcroG11 Kyle did okay...but he needs to learn how to stand in one place, without wandering back and forth like a 4 year old that needs to use the "potty."
I love the part about Bezos hypothetically ending veteran homelessness
"That's means no!"
both are hacks and grifters, milking their respective audiences