When I first started playing poker in the 1990's at Commerce, I always wore sunglasses, because I was nervous of the stakes I was playing in - to get through a hand was a day's pay for me; But I soon discovered after awhile of doing it, that when you wear sunglasses against unsophisticated opponents, it makes them not trust you, so I still do it now. Trust me, sunglasses against recs makes them think you are bluffing or weak.
Hey Bart! I’m 19, live in Jacksonville and grind 2-2 and 2-5 at BestBet. I can say this game is very close / a little bit softer than how the 2-5 game usually plays. However, I mostly play 2-2 and the fields can be much softer then what you reviewed in this footage. It’s very odd how soft these bestbet games play even when comparing to south Florida games just 300 miles away. It’s actually the reason I dropped out of college this year to pursue nlh full time. Would love to see more of this content! Goodluck at the Bounty Scramble, hope to see you there!
I find it fascinating how bad people are which to me are big stakes - I play 50p - £1 and 50p-50p blinds in Scotland. The decent regs here are very keen on trying to balance. My friend and I who I discuss hands with crush the games, but the caliber is just so much better. You don’t have people betting off bottom pair for value on rivers (unless it’s actually a good bet) - you have people using blockers to bluff, checking aces multi-way on 578 sort of boards so they don’t get raised off and balanced etc
Lauro Padilla I’m not sure what you mean, I assume your referring to checking aces? However if we are 250BB’s deep, multi-way and you bet aces on that board your going to be in a world of hurt, I’ll raise sets, two pairs and draws - your going to be in a huge pot, with an overpair calling down hoping your good, any scare cards that come that complete flushes or straights you will hate and likely fold, even my draws have good equity, and my value hands just crush you. That’s why aces is a clear check on that board multi way. If your in a horrible game where people only raise good hands, fine - bet aces and fold to the aggression, against good players they will exploit you for c-betting too loose (aces on that board is too loose multi-way and the amount of overpairs I’ve put in ridiculous horrible spots when I jam the river is funny when they do bet that board)
@@jasonhounsell3297 No I 100% agree. Checking is definitely fine. What I was referring to when I said "Sounds terrible" was the quality of the games you play in. They sound very tough and unprofitable. To give you some context your 50p-1 games probably plays like a soft $5-$10 game in California.
Lauro Padilla Yea that’s what I always think watching Barts stuff and Brad Owens vlogs. You do get fish for sure who do silly stuff, but most the regs are much better, and the good regs in a 1-1 game have a really good understanding of theory. Betting small to keep ranges wide, they understand position and polarisation so you bet larger in polar spots etc... they can be tough. I have a few soft games I play in that are very profitable home games, however in the casino, you will get 3 bet fairly well. An example hand I played last night. We have AJ off in the HJ - folds to me and I open 3x - the button is a good player but not someone I’ve seen, a young Italian who I’ve seen his lines and they are very good. He 3bet to 14x. I can’t continue profitably as a call, and AJ has good removal, however off suit will under realise if I call. I 4 bet to 37x (we are 130bb deep) - button calls. Flop is AA4 - I down bet 19 into 74 (obv to get value from pairs, put KQ suited in a bad spot etc) - BTN flats - turn brings a backdoor flush on a 6 as well as front door flush draw - I check (if it goes check check I can go large on blank rivers and put some hands like JJ in a bad spot) - he jams turn for 80ish into 112 - I have to call at this point. He has A9 and turned the flush draw (sadly it hits) He had to defend in position to my 4bet pre as I sized small, obv has to call flop with say KQ with backdoors - when I check turn after small sizing I can have 10,10-KK as well as AX etc - his jam puts my range in a bad spot and with his bluffs he folds out a load of my pairs sometimes. AJ is middle of my range, as I will have AK a bunch, and aces sometimes - I also have a lot of 10’s - K’s - I obv have to call and hope he has not got AK or AQ. To be fair however that kid was better than the avg. reg at casinos, his defending and 3betting range from what I could tell was very good. That’s why I was happy to 4bet AJ as my bluff hand, against some other regs I might not as they are slightly value heavy but still are somewhat solid.
Defending A9 suited to a 4 bet on the BUT is awful. In position or not. 5 bet or fold. But honestly live games don't play on that intricate of a level so it's a fold. A10 suited is my cutoff there. Your OOP 4 bet range shouldn't be too many hands, AJ is a decent bluff candidate but should be mainly value in general. Easy fold in his spot.
I thought you guys were playing at the games I play at. But then I realized that's not the casino or the people I play with. Just the same kind of play....👍
The hand where the player bet pot with QsQh on flop $125 in a 4 way pot on 7s6s2c. 29 minute mark. Bart mentions this is way to big of a bet. What is a good bet size? how do you continue (assume one caller and you are OOP) on the turn? A, K? Spade? 89T, 543? 7 or 6? Spade? I struggle with these situations.
I play there and I don’t see any regular 2-5 players on this stream. Usually like this during big tournaments. This game seems to play a lot like the 2-2 game there.
The 2/5 $500 cap buyin I play in NW Indiana is MUCH tougher than this. More money moving around, and then quiet hands with many limpers. I would love to be playing with these guys. Pick your hands, and play them hard. Collect the money.
55 was lucky they had ao much equity on the flop 8 handed. Good to see Bart is still a huge proponent of fast playing after 1000s of hours of saying the same thing !
it would be interesting to see where the "25x for suited connectors" number comes from....anyone know the logic behind that? that seems super high to me....i mean there are so many ways to win a hand, i just don't see why you'd have to be that deep
I play in Daytona and Orange City Florida which is about 1.5 hours South of Jacksonville Best Bet and the poker here is Way Way better than that. Those couldnt be the regular 2/5 ers from that area. They must of just put their names on the list and got their chance. I know the quality of players here in Daytona and O City and I have to assume the 2/5 regulars up in Jacksonville are better than what weve just looked at - no offense to anyone at the table - maybe it just was the hands he showed.
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Not only for this situation, but a balanced range in multiway pots is not a high priority. You want to maximize the amount of money going in the middle. Most of the action is value driven
You have to play the player not the situation. I win all day long playing poker bots. A good player plays to win based on his reads of the field and apes in
@@NKKK19 i suppose "not bloating the pot" is a factor in that? but you end up pricing in a lot of draws and stuff i would think. 4-way pots are tricky.
Im a bit shocked by his analysis on that QQ hand,i cant see anything wrong with a pot sized bet here,these guys are weak passive theyll call,also shocked at the guy folding JJ,no way that is correct.The pfr must be a nit and they know a pot sized bet means a really good hand. This is why analyzing these live games is not great for learning sound poker fundamentals.No way a pro folds JJ there just based on GTO
As a LLSNL, this was very basic stuff and I’m kind of disappointed. Most 2/5 games are much harder than this donkfest which is similar to the LATB streams. Floating with 98dd on a K73dxx board vs a cbet into 2 ppl would be kind of suicidal vs most of my 1/2 population. But probably okay at 2/5 villain dependent.
2/5 is most clearly, objectively, not low stakes. Even if they are playing like they are at .10/.25. I know you play higher stakes but don't think for second 2/5 is "low" stakes.
What's funny in these low stakes, weak players just play their cards and take nothing else into consideration. They don't care about position, who is behind them when they flat, how many they are betting in to. Ive folded so may winning hands on river when someone bets and a call in front of me, because in most situations, there is no way you are good. But they are that bad where it would be a mistake not to call in some of these situations.
This video is not educational more of a n analysis not good to play poker like he says. You have to play poker not play like someone your not. Personality determines your style play.
This guy has no idea regarding value. A pair of jacks on this flop are way better than ace 7 ♠️. Watching footage of a post game is easy to condemn the play. Queens vs jacks vs aces vs kings. A stupid evaluation.
Excited to be doing some new live footage from bestbet Jacksonville!
This standard play at 1/3 in Cleveland not even remotely special
Thanks for videos like these, absolutely love it 👌🏻
I love this kind of small stake videos. Hope you can make more!
Waiting list must be 2 days long for this game
Love that these guys wear the sunglasses and caps to hide their face, then play their hand face up...
It’s face up because you can see the cards and you have Bart analyzing.
@@415bayshark lol
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When I first started playing poker in the 1990's at Commerce, I always wore sunglasses, because I was nervous of the stakes I was playing in - to get through a hand was a day's pay for me; But I soon discovered after awhile of doing it, that when you wear sunglasses against unsophisticated opponents, it makes them not trust you, so I still do it now. Trust me, sunglasses against recs makes them think you are bluffing or weak.
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Love the work you're doing for the poker world. You helped me years ago and I am now a winning player.
I am so stoked to watch this as a 2/5 reg looking to some up some big leaks. Thanks Bart!
This is exactly how games I play in are like. More videos like this please. Are there more of them inside CLP?
Oh boy. I might be on future streams to hear how terrible I do. Ive played the bestbet stream multiple times. 2/5 deep, 5/10/25, no cap ect.
I play on stream for their low stakes games and this is how a lot of them are.
Great stuff, especially the AQ5 analysis
These are my favorite videos! Bart, you do a great job. Thanks for giving your input!
Very very special. This is my room I frequently play. This table is rare
Hey Bart! I’m 19, live in Jacksonville and grind 2-2 and 2-5 at BestBet. I can say this game is very close / a little bit softer than how the 2-5 game usually plays. However, I mostly play 2-2 and the fields can be much softer then what you reviewed in this footage. It’s very odd how soft these bestbet games play even when comparing to south Florida games just 300 miles away. It’s actually the reason I dropped out of college this year to pursue nlh full time. Would love to see more of this content! Goodluck at the Bounty Scramble, hope to see you there!
How is the grinding going for you?
Bart, these videos are under appreciated. Ty
Bart, this was a VERY special $2/5 game, for sure!
it’s really not in casinos that have bigger games available regularly. 2/5 is only solid if it’s the biggest game offered.
Sweet thanks for sharing this with us UA-cam plebs
I find it fascinating how bad people are which to me are big stakes - I play 50p - £1 and 50p-50p blinds in Scotland. The decent regs here are very keen on trying to balance. My friend and I who I discuss hands with crush the games, but the caliber is just so much better. You don’t have people betting off bottom pair for value on rivers (unless it’s actually a good bet) - you have people using blockers to bluff, checking aces multi-way on 578 sort of boards so they don’t get raised off and balanced etc
jason hounsell Sounds terrible.
Lauro Padilla I’m not sure what you mean, I assume your referring to checking aces? However if we are 250BB’s deep, multi-way and you bet aces on that board your going to be in a world of hurt, I’ll raise sets, two pairs and draws - your going to be in a huge pot, with an overpair calling down hoping your good, any scare cards that come that complete flushes or straights you will hate and likely fold, even my draws have good equity, and my value hands just crush you. That’s why aces is a clear check on that board multi way. If your in a horrible game where people only raise good hands, fine - bet aces and fold to the aggression, against good players they will exploit you for c-betting too loose (aces on that board is too loose multi-way and the amount of overpairs I’ve put in ridiculous horrible spots when I jam the river is funny when they do bet that board)
@@jasonhounsell3297 No I 100% agree. Checking is definitely fine. What I was referring to when I said "Sounds terrible" was the quality of the games you play in. They sound very tough and unprofitable. To give you some context your 50p-1 games probably plays like a soft $5-$10 game in California.
Lauro Padilla Yea that’s what I always think watching Barts stuff and Brad Owens vlogs. You do get fish for sure who do silly stuff, but most the regs are much better, and the good regs in a 1-1 game have a really good understanding of theory. Betting small to keep ranges wide, they understand position and polarisation so you bet larger in polar spots etc... they can be tough.
I have a few soft games I play in that are very profitable home games, however in the casino, you will get 3 bet fairly well. An example hand I played last night.
We have AJ off in the HJ - folds to me and I open 3x - the button is a good player but not someone I’ve seen, a young Italian who I’ve seen his lines and they are very good. He 3bet to 14x. I can’t continue profitably as a call, and AJ has good removal, however off suit will under realise if I call. I 4 bet to 37x (we are 130bb deep) - button calls.
Flop is AA4 - I down bet 19 into 74 (obv to get value from pairs, put KQ suited in a bad spot etc) - BTN flats - turn brings a backdoor flush on a 6 as well as front door flush draw - I check (if it goes check check I can go large on blank rivers and put some hands like JJ in a bad spot) - he jams turn for 80ish into 112 - I have to call at this point. He has A9 and turned the flush draw (sadly it hits)
He had to defend in position to my 4bet pre as I sized small, obv has to call flop with say KQ with backdoors - when I check turn after small sizing I can have 10,10-KK as well as AX etc - his jam puts my range in a bad spot and with his bluffs he folds out a load of my pairs sometimes.
AJ is middle of my range, as I will have AK a bunch, and aces sometimes - I also have a lot of 10’s - K’s - I obv have to call and hope he has not got AK or AQ.
To be fair however that kid was better than the avg. reg at casinos, his defending and 3betting range from what I could tell was very good. That’s why I was happy to 4bet AJ as my bluff hand, against some other regs I might not as they are slightly value heavy but still are somewhat solid.
Defending A9 suited to a 4 bet on the BUT is awful. In position or not. 5 bet or fold. But honestly live games don't play on that intricate of a level so it's a fold. A10 suited is my cutoff there. Your OOP 4 bet range shouldn't be too many hands, AJ is a decent bluff candidate but should be mainly value in general. Easy fold in his spot.
Thank you!! we would appreciate more of this!
Watching this years later and man this is funny as f
You have to remember Bart most people who aren’t in our bubble of trying to be the best poker player we can be are behind the curve.
That first hand not ever seeing what Eric had put me on extreme tilt, now I'm gonna be up all night D;
who is thumb downing this? why?
I thought you guys were playing at the games I play at. But then I realized that's not the casino or the people I play with. Just the same kind of play....👍
Where do you play
This looks like a 1-2. Here in Connecticut the 2-5 games are much tougher
Foxwoods? Is that place going to die because of the Encore now and Springfield MGM? -- Bart
Yes, that's true. There is the Twin Rivers Casino too. I'm a reg at Mohegan
The 2/5 games at encore are very juicy. On Friday and Saturday there are anywhere from 10 - 15. They’re tougher than this, but not particularly
So, Bart asked if this is a typical 2/5 game in Florida. I'm curious too. Is it? Thanks :)
TylerWx no it’s not , I play 2/5 games at best bet often, it’s not this soft
In my games i’ve seen 5-7 people limp in pre at 1$/2$ and the big blind makes it $5, it’s maddening.
Haha it's always so annoying, but it's better than an actual squeeze when you're holding a small pair, suited connector or Asmall suited.
@@benforshizzle of you have a small suited ace you should have 3bet yourself
I always assume its a small pp
Yea but your dealer loves it.
yay for live cash! thanks Bart
The hand where the player bet pot with QsQh on flop $125 in a 4 way pot on 7s6s2c. 29 minute mark.
Bart mentions this is way to big of a bet. What is a good bet size? how do you continue (assume one caller and you are OOP) on the turn? A, K? Spade? 89T, 543? 7 or 6? Spade? I struggle with these situations.
I play there and I don’t see any regular 2-5 players on this stream. Usually like this during big tournaments. This game seems to play a lot like the 2-2 game there.
The 2/5 $500 cap buyin I play in NW Indiana is MUCH tougher than this. More money moving around, and then quiet hands with many limpers. I would love to be playing with these guys. Pick your hands, and play them hard. Collect the money.
55 was lucky they had ao much equity on the flop 8 handed. Good to see Bart is still a huge proponent of fast playing after 1000s of hours of saying the same thing !
it would be interesting to see where the "25x for suited connectors" number comes from....anyone know the logic behind that? that seems super high to me....i mean there are so many ways to win a hand, i just don't see why you'd have to be that deep
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@@BradleyT2p2 i'm not a member but thanks for the thought.
Thanks Bart!
Lol I used to play 1/3 @ the Bike... Pretty accurate but perhaps just slightly tougher.
I play in Daytona and Orange City Florida which is about 1.5 hours South of Jacksonville Best Bet and the poker here is Way Way better than that. Those couldnt be the regular 2/5 ers from that area. They must of just put their names on the list and got their chance. I know the quality of players here in Daytona and O City and I have to assume the 2/5 regulars up in Jacksonville are better than what weve just looked at - no offense to anyone at the table - maybe it just was the hands he showed.
What is OMC? Mr. Bart, when using acronyms it is always good to spell ot out the 1st time.
“Old man coffee”
Chris flat calling 30% of his stack preflop is the greatest play you can make
Love the analysis.
great vid! Bart!
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I very rarely get to play in £1/£1 games that are multiway limped in London. :(
In AQ5 hand, if you’re not check raising set of 5s, then what strong hands are you check raising to balance out combo draw check raises?
Guy was in position. He got led into.
Not only for this situation, but a balanced range in multiway pots is not a high priority. You want to maximize the amount of money going in the middle. Most of the action is value driven
This video must be from like 2005 the way these guys are playing . What !? It’s not ??? 😳
Who drove to Jacksonville after watching this game?
Why is the opening bet in low stakes 5-6X where is larger stakes it is 2.5-3.5X?
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Because in low stakes, the donks call with craziness and you are trying to iso out those clowns.
Bart talking pro strats for table when entire table just trying not to oggle at dealer
You have to play the player not the situation. I win all day long playing poker bots. A good player plays to win based on his reads of the field and apes in
I'm putting that first guy that we didn't see his cards on a small pocket pair. Then he got scared off with all those Broadway cards that came out.
First hand takes 5+ minutes to explain and dissect just for it to fold... good lord
the biggest thing I noticed when I used to play these stakes was generally speaking, the players wearing sunglasses are the weakest players
if betting pot with an overpair is "huge, huge" in a 4-way pot on a drawy board, how much should we bet there?
Bruce M. $75 would be my guess
@@NKKK19 i suppose "not bloating the pot" is a factor in that? but you end up pricing in a lot of draws and stuff i would think. 4-way pots are tricky.
Im a bit shocked by his analysis on that QQ hand,i cant see anything wrong with a pot sized bet here,these guys are weak passive theyll call,also shocked at the guy folding JJ,no way that is correct.The pfr must be a nit and they know a pot sized bet means a really good hand.
This is why analyzing these live games is not great for learning sound poker fundamentals.No way a pro folds JJ there just based on GTO
As a LLSNL, this was very basic stuff and I’m kind of disappointed. Most 2/5 games are much harder than this donkfest which is similar to the LATB streams. Floating with 98dd on a K73dxx board vs a cbet into 2 ppl would be kind of suicidal vs most of my 1/2 population. But probably okay at 2/5 villain dependent.
With all due respect, this is the weakest $2/5 game that I’ve seen in years. These guys need some CLP, Ed Miller help.
I will never fold JJ to cbet on 762 bord.
Bart seems out of touch with reality expecting these low limits to play perfect poker.
2/5 is most clearly, objectively, not low stakes. Even if they are playing like they are at .10/.25. I know you play higher stakes but don't think for second 2/5 is "low" stakes.
lol 2/5 is low stakes for live poker for sure.. stakes can go up to 25/50 and 50/100 why would 2/5 be considered high?
You consider it mid-stakes?
@@911Ranger1 Online I'd consider it med/high stakes. It'd be much tougher online.
31:15 protect your cards. This dude almost cost his hand
I almost screamed. He has a fucking set 8 ways. My butt clenched right away
Especially seat 1
You reckon if that folded AQ had hit his front card the dealer would have called his hand dead?
Bart, you are 5 days older than me, I turn 40 on 10/21 😁
Deep? Ha! Shortest 2/5 I’ve ever witnessed.
What's funny in these low stakes, weak players just play their cards and take nothing else into consideration. They don't care about position, who is behind them when they flat, how many they are betting in to. Ive folded so may winning hands on river when someone bets and a call in front of me, because in most situations, there is no way you are good. But they are that bad where it would be a mistake not to call in some of these situations.
Lol what flop could jacks possibly prefer?? Flopping quads? Terrible fold
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This video is not educational more of a n analysis not good to play poker like he says. You have to play poker not play like someone your not. Personality determines your style play.
Eric has no clue
Hes an even worse lawyer too
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Too much talk
Lol at the title... 2-5 is not considered low stakes..
This guy has no idea regarding value. A pair of jacks on this flop are way better than ace 7 ♠️. Watching footage of a post game is easy to condemn the play. Queens vs jacks vs aces vs kings. A stupid evaluation.
Wow watching this vid is like watching paint dry..u talk way too much