Should you buy Electric Car in 2023?
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Should you buy an electric car in 2023? We share a detailed video on it. What all will be offer and what will be the performance like? We share all the details on it. As most of us have many doubts on electric cars - like charging, maintenance and a lot more. So all are answered in this video and we have used the Tata Nexon EV Max as the vehicle - which has been our longer term at the moment.
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - EV batteries do not last
04:28 - Battery replacement cost
06:59 - Wait for new battery technology
08:58 - Very limited public chargers
10:11 - Long distance travel
13:54 - EVs are expensive
15:47 - Emission from coal powered plant
17:54 - Advantages of EV over ICE
19:59 - Verdict
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Sir New Dzire Tour S CNG ka review karo
Congratulation bro for 3 million
The video cleared all my doubts in buying TATA EV..Thanks a lot for this informative video..
*Never buy ev car becoz* its price is 50% more and battery life is about 10 year which cost some what about 50% of car value so in 15 years you will hardly spent so much in petrol compare to ev's extra cost and that too without spending any battery discharge stress , so buy petrol fill any where save time and stress of charge by petrol.
@@imagination359 sir seems you didnt listen to the above video?
I own a Nexon EV for past 15 months. You have covered most of points regarding the charging infrastructure. But I must say charging infrastructure is not mature enough in India. Tata power lacks customer support. I got stuck quite a few times because of this. Some chargers show online on the app but when you reach the place they are of no use and there is no one to help you there.
And I can say it is getting better because i was stuck in a tier 2 city in AP with my charging gun getting stuck. Had to reach out to TATA support and the nearest service center guy called me and helped me on how to fix it as well as guide me to the next available fast charger which was working fine. So it might not be the best, but it is surely on its way to be the best.
But the situation is improving at a very high pace
@@udaygaikwad5282 I disagree, I live in noida, I have seen only one charger in electronic city with my bare eyes while walking casually about 1.5 years ago, still that is the only charger that exists which i can see physically, that too it was not working when i was there last time
i booked car, but because of pathetic customer support i cancelled.
And also the per kn coast of maruti car is only 5-6 rupees... And if u are not a heavy driver.... And your car uses is much lower than why u invest 3-6 lac extra in same car same features
Let me share my experience I am a senior citizen from Mumbai. Last December we took an adventure trip to Gujarat and in one week we covered 2500 km in Tata Nexon EV. Charging cost was around 5500. The vehicle performed extremely well. Very comfortable and good vehicle for long drives. You don't feel tired at all. At times we did face charging issues and that's why we reached the destination late at night, but that was because some of the charging stations were not working. So that is a lessons learnt. But overall, the charging problem is not that big an issue, that you decide not to buy the vehicle.
@@msdadsfsx Normally when I charge at home the charging cost comes to less than a rupee 1 per kilometre, but on the highways you need to get it charged on fast charger, where the cost is double than this and also since on the highways, you drive at say 100 km per hour speed and therefore, the mileage gets reduced and therefore you need to charge the vehicle more frequently than normal.
@@msdadsfsx O yes definitely. Very smooth drive. Very very comfortable to drive. Excellent pick up. Overtaking on highways is a cakewalk. Fuel economy.
@@msdadsfsx bhai aap ek kaam kro, free me chala lo gaadi.... That's the only solution 🙏🏼
@@ajitnadgouda6079
What's range in city at 50?
What's range on highways at 100 km/hr.
How much fast charging cost?? Moreover do ev need service like petrol or diesel cars or any other check up if yes how much it cost
This is the best video on EVs till date period ! You have talked/researched about each of the concerns/myths around EV and its eco system. This 1 video got all the answers which one need about EVs... Kudos to the team. Keep up the good work ....
Glad you liked it!
So I'm from Surat, and in our city the Municipal Corporation is taking big steps and encouraging citizens a lot to buy EVs by offering free parking for EV vehicles at Pay & Park public places... And we won't face any charging issues, coz Municipal Corporation has installed so many fast chargers that we'll find minimum 2 charging stations in a radius of 5 kms... There are 6 charging stations near my home in just a radius of 2 kms...
Which area in surat?
Surat Is India's best city bro.
I am also from surat.
@@sagar6923 Anand Mahal Road, Adajan
But in app ,it isn't even listed as your claims 😎
Free parking really isme to kami hoti hai muncipal ki 🙄
it's so simple follow this equation
1) Tiago EV
If you are looking for an automatic Hatch back @ Rs 10+ L budget on road. But your daily avg drive is between 50 to 200 kms. And your long drive is only two or three times in a month. It's a go for Tiago EV
2) Nexon EV
If you are looking for an automatic Compact SUV @ Rs 16+ L budget on road. But your daily avg drive is between 50 to 200 kms. And your long drive is only three or four times in a month. It's a go for Nexon EV
3) Nexon EV Max
If you are looking for an automatic Compact SUV @ Rs 17+ L budget on road. But your daily avg drive is between 50 to 300 kms. And your long drive is only four or five times in a month. It's a go for Nexon EV Max
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If you fit in this equation and if you buy it, 80% of your charging can be done in home. Which means you are least worried about charging stations.
But if you are a person who have long drives in almost all days, and if you take an EV, sure you can save good money, but with charging headache you will get mad. You must take a Hybrid.
As per my equation if you take an EV, you can save nearly Rs 10 to 14 Lakhs in fuel cost within 8 years. Ie nearly 80% of your investment. By that time innovative batteries will emerge at good price. And you can have it.
But on the same time, the petrol /Diesel car you buy now, will be struggling with high fuel cost and no will buy it in the used car market.
But for EV, if you have a solar at home, you can have reliable drive.
And unlike XuV 400, Nexon has Li Phosphate battery, which lasts extra long.
Citroen EV has air cooled battery and 5 year warranty on motor, whereas Tiago has liquid cooled battery and 8 year warranty on motor.
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Everything is okay but EVs feel sooo lifeless to drive . It's okay if u are just looking for a car to drive from A to B but if you are a car enthusiast EVs won't satisfy you. Yes they r fast but it feels like driving a toy car kids drive . So lifeless.
And one problem which no one talks about the problem of excessive mining that will happen as all countries will rush in to dig up raw materials for batteries, it will create further pollution and harm the environment due to excessive mining.
I am okay with EVs as an option but I am not okay with the Government and some companies forcing us to buy EVs
@@sammy.3152 you have own personal view about cars, I respect that. For me, a car should be instant to throttle, ultra smooth to drive, without much noise & vibrations. EV is 100% fit for me. Your perspective is different, it's your choice..So let the people with my views go with EVs. The term "enthusiast" is different with people to people.
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About batteries, the Era of EVs are just began in good pace, there are good number of researches and investments all around the Globe, I am pretty sure there will be a break through. May be a green battery. I am optimistic .
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No one is forcing anyone. Its a choice, after knowing all the poor safety measures of swift , people are still buying it. It's not by force, it's by choice, so let it be..
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@@sanalkumarvg2602 true bro
@@sanalkumarvg2602 They are kinda forcing us in a different way . By 2030 most counties will become all EV. So i will call that force. I am not saying EVs are bad but we have to stop pretending that the world pollution will stop completely if IC cars are banned. There are far bigger issues than IC cars
Yes I believe comercial Vehicles like trucks and Buses should be EV, even scooters for that matter
But Cars and Bikes should have IC options available. Sadly most counties are planning to kill all IC cars by 2030 that's what I am against
Atleast let people have an option
All of you points are very well valid, except the "Range one". The Range Anxiety is something which is the biggest barrier in the EV world. After that, the next killer is "charging time". Yes, 1 hour is too much. And no sir, we do travel a lot, and take break of 5 mins only and that too at some scenic location, and not some charging station.
And there are plenty of youtube videos availible on the "practical" range of Nexon EV ... it's not above 200 km if you drive at 100 km/hr with 4 people, AC on on highway.
So until EVs offer a promising range of "Real life 400 km", EVs can't replace ICE cars.
Exactly my point. These are just gimmicks currently. Govt needs to first of all build a strong charging network. Who stops during long drives for an hour, that too at a charging station😂😂😂😂
India is not ready for EVs that's the sad reality and truth. No matter what " real users" say, it's impractical and i don't want to have range anxiety all the time whenever I go out for long drives
You are one of the very few people in India who can explain confusing topics in a very simple way. Keep it up
One of the best video EV upto now ... And editing video making just next level... Thank you so much from belagavi,karnataka.
I have been using Nexon EV from last 1.5 years , I am very happy with it. All points you have mentioned I am agree 👍. I back you up as a owner of EV ❤ well done 👍. For me It is more comfortable than Mercedes Benz C class , I almost stopped using it .
Woah!
Hey, have you done long distance travel in your EV? Is it feasible if we travel long distance or to remote places like western ghats or towards hills ?
@@ranjana240 in ghats and hills EVs like Nexon will only give 1km per 1 percent battery. Tata have low range and small batteries.
I have 200cc bike pulsar 200ns.....also I have OLA S1..... S1 has 8.5 kw motor n 58nm of tourqe i love to cruise it daily fun to drive EV scooter.....smooth powerful acceleration..... Totally worth it 1.15 lac.... 🇮🇳❤️Just change mode into sport... 0 to 96kmph unstoppable continues power....
Dekhna bhai fat na jaye
@@AbhinavSingh-wb1bl done 6500kms ....no issues......
@@AbhinavSingh-wb1bl
Wo to nahi phatega but teri kyun jal rahi hai EV ke naam pe..
I must say it’s a very strategic review for the potential EV buyers. Your detailed analysis will definitely help the people to change their mindsets to own EV vehicle. Hats off to you Mr. Rachit for your efforts in making this video with thoughtful facts and figures. 👍👍
I have been using the Hyundai Kona since the last 6 months and this vehicle has been the best car purchase of my life. Have already done multiple long trips in my car from Hyderabad to Bangalore, Chikmaglur, Aurangabad, Rameshwaram and many more. Sad that people just don't understand the huge benefits EVs bring with them. Glad that you have made this videos & busted majority of these myths. Cheers!!
Thanks for sharing Ullas
@@motoroctane sir still battery replacement cost is biggest issue .
@@abhishekbeniwal814 is every car undergoing a battery change? You need not buy it, but don't bring this point everywhere!
@@lalitpatibanda why
@Abhishek Beniwal I an EV owner. Why & when do you think would I change the battery? Trying to understand your question.
One of the best enriching and motivational videos on EV. Kudos 👌
You have busted many myths of mine in EV but how about resale value after 7/8 years?
Proud NexEV and ather owner here. very much happy with the prime update. I always try to break those myths. But people got tremendous misconceptions about EV.
This is the best video that addresses all concerns of potential EV buyers. Kudos 👌
EV m Nexon 19 lakh ki
Petrol m 10 lakh ki
1 lakh kilometre m bhi mai 9 lakh nahi breakeven kar paunga ab bolo kya fyaaada h
@@worldtimeline_org exactly brother
After watching your analysis, my resolve to buy an EV got stronger.
Yes, me too wil buy an EV!!!
Please don't buy it
Trust me
U will be in pain n headache
I am using Nexon EV for last 1 year and very happy with it. But I would advise it only for people who are comfortable using apps on phone and have a bit of technical mindset. Getting a fast charger to work everytime is not an easy task. It's a problem only on long journey to a new place. If you are familiar with chargers on a particular route then it's slightly easier.
But if that doesn't bother you much then it's the best vehicle to own hands down.
Im using Ev for 8 months. Great car. Very convenient to use. There are many benefits. but Charging infrastructure in India really bad. Most chargers are not maintained properly. only very few parking spaces have slow charging option.
But BYD has different technology and set up, better than other battery tech.
Until and unless we have expansion in infrastructure for charging stations like petrol pumps, the range anxiety won't go. These should be fast chargers
Battery replacement can be another options
@@ArpitJain-kw7lmn better option
Your video today is really nice, Your flow of content along with information presentation is really good brother, your hardwork is truly evident, keep it up. You are a true influencer in positive sense. I wish this video should hit the highest number of views in your channel till now.
The way in which you justified your points with facts was marvellous and it actually changed many perspectives which I had earlier about EVs .Thanks a lot and keep bringing many such videos about EVs .
Very well researched, laid-out video. Thanks Rachit-MotorOctane 👍
Our family often use city eBus coz its comfortable, economical. We buy quartly/yearly bus-pass. It's both stress and pollution free. No need to maintain expensive vehicle.
Great video Rachit.
Could you please come up with comparison of xuv 400 n nexon EV MAX
Buddy, must agree, you are the best!🎉 This video, really related to the most important aspects we ever wanted. I haven't seen such an explanatory info. Willing to see you personally, someday. GBY
Very Helpful Video, But I'm Planning To Buy A Petrol Car Later This Year, So Please Also Make A Video On "Why You Should Consider A Petrol Car Over EVs In 2023". It Will Also Be Very Helpful.
Only reason to buy a petrol should be less running or mission critical jobs where you can't afford charge time.
Well Faisal Khan (FasBeam) had made a video on the topic recently which was mostly discouraging. This video on the other hand gives a positive outlook on EVs. To average it out I guess waiting for a few more years is wiser.
Sorry to say but I have not even an iota of respect for a person who claims to make a "Well researched rebuttal against EVs being the future" and does not put a single link to studies or research he did.
Been months since I commented the same there, demanding sources. No replies, but no delay in hearting anti EV comments just made 2-3 after my comment.
Faisal can keep coping. EVs are the future and his video can’t change jackshit
@@shresthsonkar9207 so r u commenting for the ev industry or against it. Plz clarify.
When a person doesn't need to buy an ice supercar and can ride the same for many amount of time definitely ice vehicles will be better than evs ohhh i forgot.... He loves the screaming engines...... Which produces a lot of pollution which he dont want see nor show....... Thr r many more resons but it will get political.
@@Mafiaboss0088 Faisal’s vid is BS
I have a Nexon EV and every single point apart from chargers speed and charger reliability is false or grossly exaggerated
It can only work on his 14yo fans who’s science grades are on the gear stick - D.
@@shresthsonkar9207 Is it true that the seats get excessively hot due to the battery pack being on the floor of the car? Also, have you driven in waterlogged/flooded streets? Apparently they catch fire from a short circuit after driving through waterlogged streets.
This is an extremely helpful and informative video. Very well put together. Thank you!
Such videos are in some ways very beneficial and sensible for the general public.
I had seen several anti ev point of view from multiple sources. And this one video addresses all of those holistically and in much convincing manner.
This is indeed a good research
Nice articulation, thanks to all the hardwork by your team in creating this informative content.
Look forward you our views on hybrid vs pure ev.
Also what you think about pluggable hybrid cars ?
Thank you for your kind words. Though plug in hybrids aren’t there in India in the affordable category at the moment
Charging Speed is the major issue while travelling from one state to another with a travelling distance of 500 KM. If we could have 180 to 240KW DC chargers, that would be a game changer for EV industry and more will buy.
having higher KW chargers, you also need cars which can take higher KW...cost of that will go high!
500 km is not that much to go for 180-240 kw charger even max can do it quickly. Max gives 300 km range thus you need to top up of 200 km which is 70% charge needed. 70% can be charged in less than an hour. Take a refreshment break you won't feel the charge time.
Rachit I'm always looking forward to seeing and hearing from you and this video is totally amazing about EVs..i hope i can buy 1 with all the doubts u clarified
Amazing video , hats off to the team for amazing research . This one video should be a good starting point for people to start changing their mindset
Thanks again for such an informative video. What if battery is 50-60% and we charge it to 100% on a regular basis as we have to go on a long trip...will it affect battery life cycle?
No
Rachit it's the most informative video regarding EVs on UA-cam platform...
Very nicely explained the pros and cons of purchasing EVs
Very Described and Knowledgable Video. Thanks and big thumps Up
Hi, good content. But I'm going to cancel my booked Tiago EV, due to the following reasons
1. It make no sense to sell my diesel AT Ameo at lower cost for expensive small EV (even it is feature packed). I regret for my impulsive booking decision 😬, and I cover a lesser distance monthly 500-600km.
2. Battery cost will obviously come down in 1-2 years. And make sense for me to buy EV, when it is nearer to ICE engine car capital price.
3. I disagree with the latest battery technology part, as there is a trend and urgency for EV adoption internationally. The technology for ultra fast charging and breakthrough is faster coming to market, and with competition increase there will get a better value for money ev.
3. And for my priority, I want few customisation like reverse sensor along with camera. But any extra fitting will voids the warranty of an EV.
4. For a small note, insurance cost is higher stating this is a new technology and less repair workers available.
5. Most of the EVs in india are not pure EV based (born EV), so inefficiency in performance, space management, and aesthetics (can see dummy fuel doors, less fit and finish etc)
6. Whatever may be the justification, still a 8.5 h home charging and 1 hour fast charging is a downside with the 4-5 minutes fuel filling time.
7. And lastly I am from a state where major part of electricity is produced from hydropower, but comparatively gives less insentive for ev adoption
I am going to use this speech to cancel my tiago ev as well from my dealer 😅
Good choice . Go for Hybrids bro, they will offer the best of both worlds
@@sammy.3152 And the bads of both 😉, maintenance cost of hybrid is higher, right? I like EVs but, maybe I'm little over demanding 😀
Hi Rachit. The video is very informative. Thanks for making it. Specially I was not aware that we in India are using the same battery tech that US or Europe & China are using. Most of the points I agree with (what you have reasoned for buying an EV). However, my personal issue is the price difference between ICE and EV initial cost. If genuinely my driving is less so it would not make sense to invest few additional lakhs on EV upfront. The same additional amount that I might pay for the difference I may spend same or even less over a period of 5 to 8 years on petrol.
Yes, This is the main point....very high upfront cost...If you drive less...you can put 5-6 lacs saved in fd...practically your fuels cost will be covered with interest and capital will be intact...however environment enthusiasts can definitely buy.. from getting return on investment in an ev you have to be on road for 4-5 hrs everyday...so very high upfront costs deter many buyers...
Teri drive kam isliye hai kyunki petrol nhi dalwata tu. Ev le, fir dekh tu sabji doodh lene bhi car se jayega 😂😂😂
Rachit one word "Fantastic Analysis", shared this with all the groups I know
Great video, one point you could add was that EV's are gearless, and mileage and maintenance should be compared with automatic variants of petrol cars because some people only want to buy automatic cars. For them EV's give the best mileage and very low maintenance
Next video on Nexon ev max vs xuv 400
A Brilliant video Rachit! Very well explained, but a question arises, electric cars stand at level 1 in terms of pollution, but isn't it more, as mining for lithium causes pollution, also, the amount of gases released when a battery for an EV is manufactured, is a lot. Ofc, in terms of manufacturing, making EV vehicles cause more pollution than that of an ICE vehicle. But relatively, I think, its pretty much the same, for EV's, there is more pollution in manufacturing, and for ICE vehicles, more pollution in day to day life. What do you think, do reply everyone. To make an EV, quite a lot of pollution arises.. so it is a big question... factors like range anxiety come in place, the warranty given by companies and how insurance companies react in case there is some issue, isn't predictable as this infrastructure is something new for them as well. Rachit, you've given brilliant points about how long can an EV last, and that's really good info! Loved the Video on how you explained. Kudos, team Motoroctane :))
Ice lovers forget oil extraction, spills, distillation, transport, toxic fumes, etc. All kinds of pollution.
I don't have a covered parking facility. Don't you think that charging in such a scenario may be risky as it's exposed to the elements? Please guide
A very commorehensive coverage on EVs which answers almost every concern on owning an electric car. Would like to know the consumption in electricity units for a complete charge of a midsize EV on a one charge per day basis. I think that in many states the cost per unit varies, also when the population of EVs runs into lakhs in an average sized Metro city, the infrastructure for the enhanced electicity requirement will have to increase accordinly. I suppose governments will be giving due thought to it. But all said and done your coverage on the ownership concerns was the best i have read/heard so far, and for which I congratulate and thank you.
EV efficiency is measured in Wh/km.
You can easily get 100Wh/km on tiago and 120Wh/km on Nexon. Mind you, Wh/km is actually a consumption value, so bigger is worse. Smaller means less consumption.
So if you travel X km per day, multiply X with your Wh/km and divide by 1000. Thats the amount of kWh used for that trip/travel
For example, we get abou 115-120Wh/km on Nexon EV over a 40km daily run. So our daily consumption is 4800Wh or 4.8kWh.We plug in at evening and car is fully charged in 1-2h.
We are a electricity surplus country as of writing 2023, we have been for quite some time, mostly due to the large strides in renewable sector. We have enough power to charge EVs with no effect. Power cuts are rare nowadays compared to just a decade ago, and most are infra related (busted transformers or downed cables in stormy rains etc)
At 3kW, charging an EV is equal to running two ACs for 2h (in our case of charging taking 2h). Even if there are 10 Lakh EVs in india (1 million), the power to charge them will only be 3000MW. Our total installed capacity is 4,11,649MW. A million EVs being added is just 0.7% increase in demand.
A request: can you please make a similar video on EV Scooters (Ola, Ather etc)
Ether scooter are grt 👍🏻.. but yah check your surroundings.. is charging stations available? Can you get any resale value after 5yrs of use?.. do check this things
Motoroctane is the brand ambassador of Indian cars 🇮🇳❤️
What do you think about Aluminium air technology?
Should we wait for..... because after that we would have charging+Aluminium plates reloading option in one car.
Please answer...
Well detailed regarding doubt clarification. Looking from a customer or a critic perspective, I must say Rachith! This video is super informative. Thanks for making this.
by far the best video on EVs. covering all the aspects of an EV throughout it's lifecycle. very very informative 👏👏
Itna detailed explanation kahi nahi dekha. Hats off to you to clarifying all doubts :)
Very informative. My only concern is around the number of charging cycles. Almost every company currently offers 8 year / 1.6 lakh km warranty on battery. So its safe to say that after this period/no. of kilometres the battery degradation will possibly start. Assuming 1 charges the car once every 3 days it would equate to 10 charging cycles a month or 120 cycles a year. At this rate in 8 years, 1 could possibly get just under 1000 charging cycles which is significantly lower than 3000 cycles as mentioned in the video
In my channel you can find detailed report what to expect from ev battery and much more clarification.
It depends from brand to brand. BYD gives 500,000km warranty in china. Of course no one is going to give you warranty equal to life of product. Only a fraction of its life. If this was the case, why don't engines start blowing up after 3y warranty is over? Of course, the more you take care of you vehicles the more it will last.
The point is that its more likely you'll sell the car before you need to change batteries.
@@shresthsonkar9207 concern here is not about end of battery life. Its about point in time when the degradation process is likely gonna begin. Am only trying to connect the dots between the number of charging cycles before the battery degradation can start and the length of warranty. In the video it was said 3000 cycles before the battery starts to degrade. Not the end of life
@@pritishjoshi7035 Even when degradation starts, its non linear, the first 5% will be fast, then next 5% slower than that and so on.
Tesla Model S from 2012 have 5-10% over 2,00,000km. That is the degradation on decade old tech. Even if we assume decade old tesla tech is same as new tata tech, 10% drop in range in worst case for 2,00,000km driven car isn't much.
We get 250km on nexon ev prime today. We will still get 225km by tesla figures. More if tata tech is actually better than decade old tesla which was NMC and Tata is LFP which even tesla uses TODAY
@@shresthsonkar9207 thanks for those stats and info. Would like to understand if OEMs rely on any specific metrics such as the battery chemistry, durability, charge cycles etc. to decide on the duration of battery warranty
Your explanation cleared all my doubts on EV purchase...its awesome explanation 👏
MotorOcatane/Rachit mai aapko subscribe kar rha hu just because of ur simple, easy, informative explanation... thanks a lot👍👍👍
I regularly watch your videos thanks for putting in so much effort I just have these 3 concerns.
1}Price
The on-road price of Nexon petrol XE in Delhi is **Rs 7.98 L The on-road price of Nexon EV XM in Delhi is **Rs 16.82 Lakh**. a massive 8.84 lac rupee difference
I've compared both the base variants because someone who doesn't have a budget but still wants a nexon will not buy the automatic petrol version in fact if given an option for manual transmission in Ev ( hypothetically cz thats not possible ) people would buy that a lot more
2) Oppurtunity Cost
you have not accounted for intial capital investment and lost oppurtunity cost when intially spending lacs of rupees more on ev as compared to ice vehicle this 8.84 lac when invested even in some safe fund and parked there for the lifetime of the car would not only give so much returns but almost entirely cover the entire cost of petrol car ( with moderate roi of 13% over 15years which is life of petrol vehicles in Delhi)
3) Second hand Value
im not sure about how this would turn out after the lifetime of the car because we currently dont have evs that are 10/15years old someone please give an insight on this
Really good video and many good points put across otherwise thanks again for the content
1. You considered base version of Nexon to an automatic top end ev. This is stupid.
Hi Rachit, are you using an Electric car for city and highway driving? I have seen you driving XUV 700 and other UA-cam influencers driving other IC cars and not an electric cars. Not saying that the common public should not choose Electric vehicles but we need to see things around us changing rather than just promotions and improving confidence through facts. Personally, I would like to buy an EV someday.
Almost every youtuber preaches the benefits of EVs but rarely use it for their personal use. Only youtuber i know who drives an ev is Geekyranjit
For UA-camr it will be difficult as they travel a lot . They don't have much time to charge due to low ontime .
@@GreenDriveIndia and doctors, engineers, civil servants, businessmen have a lot of time to spare?? India needs to introduce real fast charging, the manufacturers are still doing a cost cutting exercise. 50kW is cute. Unless EVs can be recharged within 15 mins, they are not practical for people like me who travel across the country on remote roads and rural areas
@@swapnil_dl yes true as of now..to be realistic you are not wrong. Those who have to travel long distances - india has a long way to go there. We need atleast 60% quick top-up in 10-20 mins. So that we can take break only after 250-300 km.
@@GreenDriveIndia I've been fortunate enough to drive and experience a lot of EVs in USA and EU, and trust me, with 350kW charging stations, they're much more practical. Car manufacturers need to put efforts and money to churn out world class products in India, else govt must pave way to companies like Tesla and other players in the market.
great content with absolute clarity. thanks for the unbiased information.
Dhanyawad aapka❤️🙏 Aapne bahut achcha se aur saral bhasha me samjhaya👏👏👏👏
But what about monsoon season , especially in mumbai where waterloging is common problem and you have to drive trough it wouldn't the batteries affected by it? 🤔
Batteries have IP67 - so driving through water won't be an issue.
@@motoroctane but if we have to drive through such condition and by chance it affects the battery , then warranty will cover it or not?
@@rakeshchaudhary5306 Yes warranty will cover
@@rakeshchaudhary5306 nowadays there are so many electronic components even in petrol and diesel cars, electric cars are as good as them. Just we need the infra to ramp up.
Nexon EV is rated for 30cm wading and has IP67 rated pack and motor.
Great informational video. I agree with all the points except the ease of driving on highways as we lack the Charging Infrastructure. I have previously worked with an EV Charging company (EVCosmos) who are working on setting up chargers which required a dedicated survey on the highways.
Such a good video, I am gonna show this video to my father and family members because they have the same myths about EVs.........Thanks for making such a good video.
You are the best logical car you Tuber.. point to point ... Thanks for the video.. it helped a lot..
EVs for the moment can be good commuters.. However, government should definitely start supporting Hybrids, as it really aids to reducing emissions... We don't have to worry about range and we can just fill up and move on in highways... Efficiency is also a bonus 👍 But I also agree that Hybrids are expensive to maintain..
Atleast Hybrids are fun to drive unlike the EVs. I am okay with EVs as an option but the Government and some brands are shoving them down our throats. That's what I am against.. atleast give us an option
@@sammy.3152 No not at all.. I've ridden my uncle's Ather 450X.. The Torque rush in EVs is just insane 😍
@@ducatimultistradav4850 Bro it's okay for Scooters but when people buy cars they buy it to have fun to have full control over the RPM, Rev the engine as we like , u can't do any of those things in an EV. It feels so lifeless, as i said EVs will be quick but it's like driving those toy cars we used to have as kids 😅
@@sammy.3152 Yes.. Not even a slight buzz at top end or high speeds..
@@sammy.3152 try the XUV400 and you’ll change your mind
I am already an owner. I have already driven it from Delhi to Deoghar. Yes there have been fluctuations on cold day , and I ran down to 3 percent and had to check with a local garage to let me charge 5 percent to reach the next point
P.S actually I took a risk and kept the next charging at approx 320 km as the previous day i travelled 360 km from kanpur to varansi in one charge with 6 percent juice left . So I estimated i will easily travel 314 and didnt charge at prayagraj , however as the temperature was 7 degrees. The cars heater was constantly kicking in and hence I was running out of juice faster i guess
So no charging stations available?
@@swapnil_dl mainly depends on route..some routes has good coverage some don't. You need to check yourself. Search plug share and see. In my channel i have specific video about public chargers as well. You can take help of that video
@@swapnil_dl no actually I took a risk and kept the next charging at 314 km as the previous day i travelled 360 km from kanpur to varansi in one charge . So I estimated i will easily travel 314 , however as the temperature was 7 degrees. The cars heater was constantly kicking in and hence I was running out of juice faster i guess
Same with ICE - in hot conditions - your performance and mileage both drop due to thinner air.
Does using only dc fast Charger for an ev car deteriorate the battery?
If yes, what's the rate at which the battery gets consumed?
Very nicely explained. I have researched a lot about EVs, and even I found a few new points in your video. Regarding the pollution part, you just missed the point about Lithium mining being highly polluting. But eventually, if you use a car for about 10 years, lifetime pollution will be lower than an ICE car.
The biggest problem right now is that the EVs available right now have been converted from ICE vehicles to electric which almost doubles their cost compared to ICE BASE versions which does not make sense…..When we get ground up EVs then it would really be beneficial to consider EVs
its your choice! ground up will come in future, you have the option to move to Electric for 3 years already, so you are still burning fossil fuel? still polluting the air?
I disagree. 'almost doubles the cost' is a myth. At the core of it, its an automatic car, so you need to compare it with the base model of the auto version. When I bought nexon ev 3 years ago, it cost me 15.5 (the midrange model), the exact same model with auto petrol engine cost 11.6 or 12 on road. So i paid a premium of 3.5 lakhs. Certainly not 'almost double'.
@@vivekvivekahuja manufacturing batteries is also a polluting process. In fact it is more harmful as mining rare earth metals causes heavy geological imbalances. Also EVs dont have a good resale value due to battery degrade. Which increases the amount of unnecessary waste. It’s everywhere on the internet. So no. It’s not better than burning fossil fuel.
Ionic 5, Kia EV6, BYD E6 & Atto 3 and many more are examples of born EV .. None of them is cheaper sir .. The RND and Designing cost plays a major role and hence with the current demand in terms of volumes.. the ICE converted EVs are being offered are really worth .. Just sharing my perspective
@@whyzi6143 doesn't hold any truth man. Of course extracting lithium is harmful but it's a one time process. Extracting crude oil from ground, filtering it into diesel petrol (using electricity) and then shipping it across the world, just for you to burn it in your city, how come this process is 'as polluting as making battery'?
What about EV in rainy season? If there is Tyre deep water, what will be the effect on battery?
I'm an EV owner in Maharashtra. I've driven it in bad monsoons and water clogging. Faced absolutely no issues, where many of the other ICE vehicles were broken down on the same road.
@@akshayakawle4655 You are right. EVs are much safer to be driven in rainy season and flooded areas as the entire components are IP rated
Yes, Feb 11 already taken delivery of tiago XT 24kw LR. Till date 400km run only charge on home charger.
Soon going for long run
Any inputs for Individual Home Owners who might have to deal with battery fires ? After all the preferred timing to charge is overnight ? Yes ?
The thing is, cost of running is merely an assumption here. Many places the cost of electricity is much higher than what we assume to keep the running cost ₹1-1.2 per km. Also, finding fast chargers is a very tedious task, for say, someone traveling from Bangalore to nagpur. Many a times chargers are not working though they're shown to be online in the app. Using third party charging stations means you've to first deposit money in their app and then use it. Seen so many people regretting the decision to buy EVs in India. These are merely City commuters, who are sure that they'll be charging their cars at home overnight, but for someone who wants to use it for long tours, with no overnight breaks, it's impossible. As you said, 15A pe charge kar lo, bro usko 8-10 ghanta lagega. Take that into account as well. Secondly, have you ever researched the cost and impacts of lithium mining? How much water is consumed during the process? How much carbon emission is done to manufacture each battery? Just giving a lovey dovey picture is not a good way to put things in a perspective bro. Also, for people who live in societies as tenants, have you ever thought how much cost it incurs to set up a charger, and let us assume that i move to a new flat in a couple of years, what happens then? They'll pay the installation charges again. In countries like US and Germany, the charging infrastructure is actually comparable to the gas stations network across the country. They never even worry about the possibility of getting stuck by the side of the road in the middle of night. But in India, at this current situation, sorry to disappoint, but this is huge possibility. I have met youtubers who did such reviews advocating EVs and their pros , but even it came to buying a personal car, went for IC engine version. So I'm not very hot on this topic. Though, i would love to own one, it's not practical for most of the public right now.
The situation has improved a lot now. I am very happy with my purchase. Have driven 10k in 6 months and have not paid more than 15k in running cost
On top of everything the charging infrastructure of tata power is the most pathetic one. I was watching an owner review on another UA-cam channel, the owner said he has stopped even seeing the charging points on the Tata's app as they rarely work 😂
@swapnil lonarey we usually don't rely on Tata Power chargers. There are lot of enthusiastic companies who are working day and night to provide better service. So no issues with the Fast chargers for now and it's getting even better everyday
@@shammidharmappa2212 my point is unless we get charging stations mandated by govt to BPCL and IOC and HPCL, there is no point in these gimmicks for long drives. I am fortunate enough to have driven vast electric vehicles in EU and USA, the max charging speed is 350kW, which normally gives a range of around 180-220km on barely 8 minutes of charging. Until our auto companies really invest in the RnD and give a world class product, this discussion is futile. Chinese companies like byd and mg will surpass us
@swapnil lonarey Nope, the charging and fueling up are 2 different things. Usually charging speed of 50kw is good enough as it coincides with a 40 minute food and bio break for most of us. Already BPCL is setting up chargers all around. The BMS in Nexon EV is almost good if not better than the MG and BYD. The car is well sorted and does extremely well in all terrains.
Hello Rachit,
Overall a great review with detailed explanation on each point.
But you have missed one point regarding the pollution takes place while extraction of lithium.
According to a report by Friends of the Earth (FoE), lithium extraction inevitably harms the soil and causes air contamination. As demand rises, the mining impacts are “increasingly affecting communities where this harmful extraction takes place, jeopardising their access to water,” says the report.
Thanks for this video! Could you please create a video on Portable chargers for electric cars. If portable chargers are available then people won't worry about battery drain issue and it will boost EV adoption as people will be able to carry it while travelling. Expecting some kind of product from Tata motors/ Tata Power.💪⚡
Thanks for a detailed review on EV cars . One correction , after watching your video , I decided to evaluate EV , tata nexon to be precise , they said the state incentives / subsidies are discontinued now . Pls make a note of it . Thanks
Now all the myths of ev vehicle is cleared!!! Very very knowledgeable video. Thank you @MotorOctane
Extraction of lithium also pollutes the environment???
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Crude oil excavation, drilling, extraction , refining and transporting it to different countries via ships and then to Petrol pumps via trucks and then burning inside engine all cause pollution.
@@niriap9780 but extraction of lithium requires a lot of water which gets wasted...
@@AjitSingh-oq6fx lithium is extracted from saltwater, its not like you use freshwater from supply to refine lithium or something.
Lithium is obtained from Li2CO3 (lithium carbonate) which is found in saltwater. This saltwater is simply left to evaporate naturally in big fields which resemble paddy. Evaporation leaves carbonate salts behind (precipitate) which is then processes into battery.
The "amount of water for one lihtium battery" is the amount of saltwater you need to extract say 5-6kg lithium which is indeed a lot because the concentration of Li2CO3 is not as high as other salts in saltwater ie you'll need to evaporate X litres of saltwater to get Y kg lithium because the conc is limited
My only issue with ev is range anxiety...but it's solution is better trip planning...now i think I'm ready for a ev
First of all I would like to say that, this is the best ever video explaining about EV, and breaking the myths, thank you for that and, what's your opinion about, EV in place like Leh Ladakh, where temperature in winter almost hit -30DC?
Hope you will answer this.
EV is The Future ❤️
3000 cycle does not seem correct for LFP. Its max 2000 cycles.
2500-3000 is claimed by TATA
even if you take 1000, its 3,00,000km, which is 2x the warranty. Do you think any normal car which is not a innova taxi or truck sees that kinda mileage in india?
@@shresthsonkar9207 i don't, i wanted to just correct a fact. Not go against a revolution that is definitely the future.
Very thorough video ... Detailed information to each aspect..Plz keep up good work. Will definitely consider electric car going forth🙌
great bro... u clear all my doubts ...big big thanx to yuh.... Love from Shimla✌✌
EVs are good if you have other cars at home . The battery will be good for like 5-6yrs at most.
This video boosted my confidence to buy my next car an EV. I was thinking of buying a hybrid car as my next, but thankfully almost all my doubts are cleared, thanks Rachit !
Now, I only want an EV that should practically provide me a range of 500+ km (in real situations) on a single charge.
Great to hear that!
U can buy byd ev which gives U 450+ km as range
Or you may consider Hyundai’s IONIQ 5 which has ARAI stated range of 631 kms or real world range of about 500 kms and was awarded the WORLD CAR OF TGE YEAR 2022 and WORLD EV OF THE YEAR 2022 awards, provided it suit your budget.
@@anuraagmahajan3319 way too expensive dear ☺️
@@neerajsaxena But this is the presently reality of EV’s, anything in the 500 kn realistic range is expensive. Plus IONIQ 5 is no ordinary car it’s the WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR 2022 ax well as WORKD EV OF THE YEAR 2022 plus is so well equipped/ loaded that the price point on which it’s available is remarkable value. Compare it with a similarly priced & sized Skoda Kodiaq and see what it offered even as an EV with features space etc. which are not available even in ICE Kodiaq. The new generation KONA just launched last week is expected in India at a price point of MG ZVS which should be irresistible option.
That is why MO is the only one who changes the perception of the viewers.
Pahadon mein charging stations aane mein time lagega.
Wow what a research you got in this video 😘 love your hardwork 💓
The biggest problem is the infrastructure itself. Not everyone lives and works within major cities. Outside the major cities the charging infrastructure is super slow, horrible and unrelaible. Most of them doesnt work properly. I have driven my friend's Hyundai Kona and although its a very fast car, its so boring to drive , also its a veryyy expensive car in my opinion. So for now I think Hybrids are a perfect choice as they offer good of both worlds. India will be ready for EVs 2-3 years from now on.
Bang on!!
You probably haven’t seen the video if you still have questions on infrastructure 😅
@@_pr0mZ I have seen it and i do not agree to the point that he made about infrastructure. Most of the chargers are super slow or broken (which I have experienced myself). Even non EV cars, trucks come and park at the ev charging spots. And what about people who live in rented apartments ? It will be really difficult to install and shift the chargers from time to time
@@sammy.3152 Clearly you haven’t watched it. Good luck with your FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) Agenda. Indians are smart enough to understand what’s better for them and EVs are economically better any day.
*Never buy ev car becoz* its price is 50% more and battery life is about 10 year which cost some what about 50% of car value so in 15 years you will hardly spent so much in petrol compare to ev's extra cost and that too without spending any battery discharge stress , so buy petrol fill any where save time and stress of charge by buying petrol car .
Thank you so much for all the information in one single video ✌
Awesome video brother. It is really helpful and I also got to know a lot of things
How will we charge it at home. Is it required special socket or special arrangements?
Any idea on reselling price? I am suspecting depreciation would be must faster for EVs compared to an IC engine car.
What an informative video...really impressed by your content. Answered all my queries.
How are the effects of water damage incase of an ev and battery?
Sachit you did clarify everything 👍👍👍👌👌👌it's cleared all doubts ❤️
Superb content!! Being an Ev owner I completely agree!!
take bow Bro, best and much needed clear video...Go GREEN go Electric!!🌲🌳☘🍀🌷
Beautifully explained everything...thanks Rachit
I have 2 questions how fast is fast charging in Indian highways? And second if we drive fully loaded like 5 person 80kg avg per person and luggage for same does that affect mileage or range?
Can you also let us know if I can park electric vehicle under sun for long time mainly in summer. Iam ready to purchase Tiago ev and can I park under a normal roof during mid summer without any worry. Kindly request to let me know about this
One of the best videos in a while. Good job.
Amazing information you shared with us. Really appreciated keep it up and god bless you brother