Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
daily running and long distance light loads- hybrid , daily running and long distance with heavy loads- diesel, intermittent driving and short distance - petrol/cng. Short trips - small EVs
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Diesel is the best for Indian road conditions. Also Best fuel economy, best engine life , best resale value , good low end torque for bad road conditions and so many.
Instead of banning 10year old diesel car!! First ban the 25-30year old govt truck they are not serviced properly and leave large amount of rolling coal!!😡😡😡😡😡😡
@@Rinking123 bio disel should be promoted as the carbon footprint of bio disel is almost 0 And if disel will mixed with electric ( may be future technology) just like petrol hybrid then it will be best for atleast some decades till electric bio lng and green hydrogen can be implemented on large scale along with many r and d
@@Rinking123 Electric Cars are also Not Green...Depending on Electricity in a country where 2/3rd of Electricity comes from Coal is just equally polluting...Also, the mining of Nickel and Cobalt will increase dependency on Oil Sector and region wise on DRC & China...
I just got a Petrol car towards the end of 2023 due to lack of vfm hybrid options. I wished the government pushed car makers to focus on hybrids, rather than EV.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Turbo Diesel is still undisputed for the rest of India, otherwise a NA petrol engine is good enough for most. Turbo petrol is iffy and hybrid batteries need changing on top of engine maintenance.
In India petrol and diesel will rule another few decades. When CNG was introduced it was thought to be a game changer but it is yet to reach every town in India and not many models of cars are available by different automobile makers. EV's has recently started gaining traction in some metro's but the range anxiety and lack of charging infrastructure poses greater risk. So overall petrol and diesel will rule for another few decade's.
Our government needs awareness about Series hybrid for 4 wheelers for better fuel efficiency and no range anxiety. They need to understand that pure EV cars and trucks are impractical.
I have heard engine is very bad and cost ownership is very high of tata Tiago only because my family is very confused we thinking of getting second hand or wagon r or celerio
@@revtey one of my friend has it. In neon colour it looks stunning. Full space in boot because of dual bottle. Avarage of around 25km/kg. Driving experience is super. Feels stable on corners. I can't say more because I have driven it for sometimes.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Now I totally Satisfied with my choice, even after having Budget of 10 Lakh I bought second hand Maruti Suzuki Zen Estilo (2013 Model 67K driven, Non accidental, Petrol+Green CNG, Brown Colour.) Direct from Single owner. I have bought this car for only Rs.65K. We dont do daily running at all, sometimes we have to go out for some work. For this reason we did not buy a new car. BTW this is First Car in our Family.❤
Very good decision. I regret selling my figo petrol which was taken for 1 lakh and buying new baleno which cost 8 lakhs. My running is just 3k kms per year. I changed car for just showing to society and people around
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
@@traderbear6518because of tax regime on certain cubic centimetre engine, length of vehicles and no. Of cylinder for example engine exceeding 1200cc will get bonded with more tax, another example cars under 4 meter length will have less tax as compared to cars with higher then 4 meter in body
Using diesel to dig the minerals to make the batteries, then no plan for battery disposal, then no plans for other pollutant’s disposal. Govt ki bhi hypocrisy alag hai.
oil does not come out of bathroom tap, there is emission at extraction stage for digging earth, then pumping out crude using diesel pump then in ships used to carry crude oil across thousands of km of sea to the refinery then in refinery to perform fractional distillation, you need to boil the crude, again burn fossil fuel then transport it in trucks and trains to petrol pumps all over the world
Dude hold my beer. My 2015 Honda Mobilio Vi-DTEC diesel gives 25+ with 1500cc engine, plus it has more space than your Tin ka Dabba. It has strong build quality, smoothest engine, Honda Assurance.
🚨 dont consider milage if ev to be same for many years. Just like mobiles batteries will start to degrade and again petrol and diesel will become cost effective to drive.
We have 100K km driven ev’s on our owners group None of them have any range drop. One guy even did 162k km and his review is on yt itself, he also gets same range as day 1
@@shresthsonkar9207can you please tell me what's the range you are getting on these cars? And if possible which of the existing ev cars are worth purchasing for beginners?
6:46 Please clear this point cause we don't have to replace all battery. Tata just replace few cells of battery and I think it cost lesser than what you have said
I want to say that, the EV companies should also start a battery recycling plant. Since lithium and other materials are recyclable from a battery more than 90%, it will help for the profit of companies. Moreover, the companies can use that recycled one in their cars. Therefore, I assume that it can reduce the price of battery. The Sodium-ion batteries which may come in future can also help to get the rate of EV's to down.
Actually currently it's not fisable to recycle batteries Sodium Ion batteries will be more heavy so they are not good for vehicles The main thing we have to do is to setup a lithium Ion cell factory in India Currently we import all Li cells from china with 100% import duty so just by manufacturing cells we can bring down the cost of evs by 25-30%
@@gamingwithkiran9610 jerry rig everything did video on battery recycling, 92% of original metal mass in battery can be successfully recovered and recycled to make new battery. That is, if you recycle 100 batteries, you can make 92 new batteries out of it
@@ChandranPrema123 That replaceable batteries are there. But what is wrong that when we try to replace the old one, it cost some lakhs for a new battery, since the materials for a battery are costly. When we recollect these materials by recycling the old one, we can gradually decrease the cost of battery.
@@gamingwithkiran9610 There are many plants where batteries are being recycled, with 90+ % of the contents get recycled. Sodium-ion maybe heavy. But the revolution in technology may find a solution for it.(There are companies like Koenigsegg, which is referred in his previous video, who makes revolutionary things.)
@@DivyankKaushik ha aap Harvard ke ho na aapko sab pata baki log anpad If we consider the grid usage in charging, the 100% coal scenario (worst case), the avg grid emissions as of 2020 was 614gCO2/kWh or 0.614gCO2/Wh. (Figures taken from page 5 graph of this pdf : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/EV-emissions-impacts-India-apr2021-01.pdf) An EV like Nexon can get efficiency of 120Wh/km An EV like Tiago can get even better at 100Wh/km By this calculation, a 100% coal powered Nexon EV has a running emission of 74gCO2/km. For Tiago EV it’s 62gCO2/km. For reference, you can check emissions of common Maruti cars, cars which are known for “kitna deti hai”. As rule of thumb, more mileage = less emissions Pdf ph11, indexed pg6 : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/India-hybrids-wp-FINAL.pdf All Maruti cars except baleno SHVS are above 100gCO2/km. Baleno makes the cut barely at 99.6gCO2/km. That’s when we counted 100% coal power. In reality only 60% is coal which puts nexon and Tiago at 44gCO2/km and 37gCO2/km. pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1785808 This is purely tailpipe to smokestack comparison As of today, EVs are 19% cleaner all things considered theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/ So before you say “but what about battery production”, remember that oil extraction uses electric/diesel pump. 40% of global shipping is just for oil and it’s derivatives, and refining again uses electric furnace or fossil fuel burning to generate heat for fractional distillation. Conservative estimates put oil refining alone at 2-3kWh/litre qz.com/2113243/forty-percent-of-all-shipping-cargo-consists-of-fossil-fuels When you add all this to the mix, you’ll see why EVs are better (one time mining + 92% recycling efficiency) ua-cam.com/video/s2xrarUWVRQ/v-deo.html m.ua-cam.com/video/1oVrIHcdxjA/v-deo.html It’s oil extraction which must be compared with battery production as the logical analogue
@@DivyankKaushik If we consider the grid usage in charging, the 100% coal scenario (worst case), the avg grid emissions as of 2020 was 614gCO2/kWh or 0.614gCO2/Wh. (Figures taken from page 5 graph of this pdf : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/EV-emissions-impacts-India-apr2021-01.pdf) An EV like Nexon can get efficiency of 120Wh/km An EV like Tiago can get even better at 100Wh/km By this calculation, a 100% coal powered Nexon EV has a running emission of 74gCO2/km. For Tiago EV it’s 62gCO2/km. For reference, you can check emissions of common Maruti cars, cars which are known for “kitna deti hai”. As rule of thumb, more mileage = less emissions Pdf ph11, indexed pg6 : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/India-hybrids-wp-FINAL.pdf All Maruti cars except baleno SHVS are above 100gCO2/km. Baleno makes the cut barely at 99.6gCO2/km. That’s when we counted 100% coal power. In reality only 60% is coal which puts nexon and Tiago at 44gCO2/km and 37gCO2/km. pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1785808 This is purely tailpipe to smokestack comparison As of today, EVs are 19% cleaner all things considered theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/
I'd still put cng on top because I recently bought swift cng and it's performance with cng is mind-blowing! That's because of dual jet technology! I've driven around 500 kms and it has given me a mileage of 27 in city and this without the first service! Also, remember that I travel with ac, but hardly any drag because of 1.2 litre engine. Another amazing part is that the bootspace is still not that bad, you can place clothes filled bags on the cng tank and around it. Also, it has removable tray, so more storage. Conclusion: cng is the best. If you get a chance to grab one, don't miss the opportunity.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
I agree with your point regarding the number of cylinders. The refinement in 4 cylinder engines is just unmatched and it is good economically too. But as far as making forced induction and GDI compulsory is concerned, it will just make the engines less reliable and also will have a higher upfront cost (maybe with higher maintenance too). For example, GDI injects the fuel directly into the combustion chamber, so the cylinder liner design should be such that it should not only withstand that high pressure but also be extremely leak proof. PDI engines are just simpler and also have more mileage, which at least 60% of the population wants. Even with turbos, you have to deal with that initial lag if your pressure is too high. So city use is pretty cumbersome. Even the old cars which you mentioned had more displacement with NA engines instead of these tech. Hence were more reliable. So yeah if you’re a driving enthusiast who wants that adrenaline rush on the highways and stuff, go with GDI or forced induction car, but as for the majority of the population, they would rather be happy with NA. But yeah, both wouldn’t be happy with the 3 cylinder vibrations for sure😅
@@c04-rhikbanerjee55I will also take the large displacement NA engine, over a GDI engine, but problem is due to trend of downsizing, engines are becoming smaller day by day. Due to it being so small, NA engines are not able to make enough power, maybe that's why GDI and Forced induction came into the picture.
Yeah I totally get that. For performance, GDI or forced induction is anyway better By the way, PDI is port direct injection, just like most vehicles in the market
I would put electric on #3. Range on all cars are enough to cover daily city driving, and you can charge it at night. It is very efficient in city driving due to frequent stops and low speeds. Lastly as for cost, the savings in fuel cost more than make up for difference in EMI, and you get much superior driving experience.
He’s biased against EV Obviously he will oppose it Heck I’m surprised he didn’t put EV at #5 Infra issue is with cng also if you give logic that don’t fill cng you can drive on petrol also, if I wanted to drive on petrol why would I buy cng car, I’ll save that extra money and buy petrol car itself
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
I have xuv700 diesel manual.. clocked 22k kms.. absolute beast in each and every department.. and the cherry on the cake is the mileage.. i am easily getting 20kmpl on highway,
@@gpjoseph9807 I have not bought this car for mileage.. but I am getting more than 20kmpl on highway.. Now just to satisfy peoples notion should I just lie and say "Ohh, I am getting horrible mileage"?
Bootspace ki zaroorat sirf sheher se baahar leke jaane mein padti hai. City ke liye CNG best hai agar running zyaada hai toh nahi toh petrol best hai. Bas sirf 2 options
In Mumbai the maximum age of Petrol car is 15 years and if you want to keep your car few more years then you have to pay some amount which is known as green tax and you can keep 5 more years and in total the maximum age after paying green tax is 20 years for petrol cars and if you want to extend you can't extend at any cost. After 20 years you have to move your car from Mumbai or you have to scrap the car. Even if I am wrong so you can correct me (telling only about Mumbai and not about other states/Cities)
Is Diesel still more polluting from BS6? I think emissions of Diesel vehicles reduced drastically, equivalent to Petrol vehicles in BS6 and more so in BS6 Phase 2. Petrol cars do not match the Torquey nature of Diesel cars.
Your videos are very well rounded in terms of coverage of topics. They are also very relevant and useful most of the times for your viewers. I am one of your viewera who benefits from your research and script. I myself do a lot of research and happened to develop my own vehicle selection tool back in 2013. These daus, I am trying to assess the usefulness of engine remap. While various remap codes promise their benefits towards the reapective car models, I am drawn to 2 major factors that these generally promise - 10% power and torque increase in stage 1 remap and also an increased fuel efficiency in city driving, due to higher torque at lower RPM, at lower gears. Could you please consider this as a topic for one of your forthcoming videos? I look forward to your valuable work. Thanks
Petrol+ CNG govt need to reduce price of cng like 60-65. For CNG govt should also decrease road tax like 1.2ltrengine under sub 4 meter car 1.5ltr engine should be ideal with cng enabled company fitted Like ertiga cng engine performance would be good in car like Swift/baleno
Folks this is such an informative channel and his videos are so in-depth and detail oriented... Yet there are only under 4 lakh subscribers... Bhai log we strictly need to increase this channel's general following and especially the view counts... Nai toh 90% humare yahaan ke consumers toh bas aankh moond kar kabootar bane baithe hain 😓
Diesel car is problem then what about Diesel Trucks??? No one talks about this, approximately 4Million trucks in India and cars approx 1.6 million, they doesn't exist on earth right 😂 unnecessarily diesel cars are targeted because to sell EV, manufacturing companies, diesel trucks, unwanted waste dumping etc these are not causing pollution, Only diesel cars, come on guys wake up its pure strategy to sell EV which is causing more pollution then any other things but they will not talk about it.
Diesel still best as milage generally achieve for 1.5 ltr engine is more 20kmpl with ease ,and this milage on full load with full AC seating with suffecient power on highway or while on climbing on ghats where as petrol milage started lowering in power demand condition some time milage show single digits especially on turbo GDI engine so still diesel tech is best as diesel engine has higher effeciency among all IC engine counterparts
My father purchased Ford ecosport diesel because he wanted something which resembles SUV but wanted something which he can afford to purchase and drive.
Simple Calculation- Nexon Petrol Top Model (AT) - 17 lakh. Nexon EV Top Model- 21 lakh. Subsidy- 1.5 lakh Difference- 2.5 lakh only. Considering low running cost & minimal maintenance, I am happy with my purchase of EV. In 6 months, I have covered 8500km, with approx 6000 rupees of Electricity bill. But I the issue is faced with Tata SC was so terrible that I wont recommend Tata to anyone.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Can someone tell the govt that pollution is not just due to cars, but mainly due to their outdated govt buses? Not to mention the amount of old trucks still running like hell.
1.TGDI petrol engine options are very limited 2. Mileage also an issue in TGDI petrol engines 3. Common belief is that petrol maintenence & servicing are cheaper. If you are servicing your car in authorised service centres then the cost will almost be the same for both diesel & petrol engines. 4. Petrol engines are less durable compared to diesel engines. Taxes from petrol & diesel are the main source of income for the government and they will never ban ICE car's production & selling in any near point of time. If otherwise occurs and EV's rule the market, the government will definitely impose huge taxes for electricity , EV cars and EV's cost effectiveness will decline. Even at that point of time diesel cars purchased in this period will still prove economical as fuel cost may not escalate due to lower diesel demand and abundant supply of oil from the middle east. The only issue diesel owners will be facing is the EV's flying around them at 100 kms in 3 sec's. In future if technology changes both petrol & diesel cars are not going to attract any kind of second hand value . Banning newly purchased diesel vehicle after 10 years is a long time & if you are a driving enthusiast why restrict yourself now on flimsy 3 cylinder & dull 4 cylinder NA petrol engines.😂
Fuel taxes are required to be high because importing fuel in dollars leads to forex drain More ev’s means less forex drain so you don’t have to collect as much tax because you make own electricity. We buy fuel in dollar but pay in rupee that’s why high tax is needed to balance out the forex drain Else we will also end up like Sri Lanka and paxtan
This is no doubt the best automotive channel, so sensible and practical analysis of data. Your content makes so much sense. Thank you for bringing quality content everytime. ❤❤❤
I used petrol car and I don't think naturally aspirated engines are producing good enough powers. They are laggy. Turbo petrol are good but milage issue. Thus diesel. I hope that make sense. Also bs6 diesels emissions are quite controlled so there not much issue.
Is it accurate that the GST on EV vehicles and charging, which was previously 18%, has been reduced to 5%? Could you please provide a link for reference on this matter?
Bs6 diesel cars are less pollutants compared to petrol cars. In Diesel cars, only Nox is higher , it is also negligible with SCR/Dnox. Petrol car produces more CO emissions than diesel. false propoganda is killing diesel. No one is talking about electricity production pollution and battery recycling.
For driving enthusiasts nothing matches the performance of TSI and TGDI engines mated to DSG and DCT gearbox. 2L and 2.2L diesel engines give same mileage as 1.5TSI and 1.5TGDI engines. A XUV 700 or Harrier Diesel AT returns almost same mileage as a Seltos 1.5 turbo DCT or 1.5 TSI DSG engines from VW/Skoda.
@@ashishIMpro Ya the 1.5 TSI engines from VW/Skoda and the 1.5 TGDI engines from KIA/Hyundai are the benchmarks of engine technology. Like VW/Skoda offer cylinder deactivation technology that shuts down 2 cylinder at lower rpm for better efficiency. And KIA/Hyundai offer Variable Valve Technology that has same function.
I agree with most of the points you have mentioned here, however one of the things you have mentioned was the maintenance cost is less for EV and Hybrids, but that's not true. Let's keep the practicality aside for a while because that's one of the known drawback of EV and also agree that the running cost is low for EV, but the maintenance frequencies and part replacement are still much more higher than the non-EV cars. Also want to consider few of the safety aspects as well.
ev is NOT pollution free. The only futuristic solution would be Hybrids and Hydrogens. and definitely petrol is still here to stay for at least 25-30 years in India! it is hardly possible to change the whole fleet from petrol to non petrol because that will create huge price hike in market.
look up how hydrogen is made -- using CH4 reforming, its worse than thermal power plant even if you use water and electrolysis, you need 50kWh electricity and 60L water to make 1kg H2 gas 1kg h2 can let mirai fcev drive for just 100km while same 50kWh worth of renewable electricity can charge model s for 50% and drive 250-300km
yes, but it might be formed with less pollution if researched heavily in future. moreover H2 will have pumps just like petrol or diesel and it won't take 30-70 minutes (ye bhi kam karke bola w.r.t. ev's charging time) to have a full tank h2. yes the range might be less as of now but in future it will increase!@@shresthsonkar9207
Hydrogen is pollution free? Hydrogen also needs electricity to produce if ypu consider electrolysis. If its obtained from methane, then again its from carbon based fuel. From where do you get electricity for hydrolysis? Also electrolysis at best is 60% efficient.
I purchased scorpion petrol Mannual 2 years back. My monthly running is not more than 800km. I am not from NCR but Bhopal. My decision was right or wrong because diesel saves almost Rs. 3 per km.
Guys don't get mislead by half baked information like this guy is providing. I own a diesel sedan which I used to commute to my office daily. My daily running is 135 km approx. I used to spend 15000-16000/- every month on fuel expenses alone. (let alone the maintenance cost) For this reason I did thorough research and bought Tiago EV (yes, my diesel sedan is still with me). Now my running cost per month is 3500-4000/- , which is a big relief. One thing I'll let you know is that you can't have an EV as your only car. If you're certain that your daily commute is fixed than EV is a blessing. You can cover the higher purchase price within 2-3 years. Also the lithium ion batteries are high quality, they don't die just like that.
Finally someone talking facts. All I see these days are petrolheads bashing EVs without even understanding about them and saying hydrogen is the future, without having a slightest knowledge of how hydrogen works and what problems are holding it back.
Good classification, would also add on strong hybrid compromise with respect to boot space, at least in City & Vitara. Hope govt rationalizes tax of strong hybrids and encourages PHEVs to substantially reduce emissions in urban areas.
More features on EV: They have 8 years warranty on battery pack. Charging infra is strong in many places, can charge in a petrol pump as well but using slow charger. Tata has LFP battery that Tesla uses in some of its car and has life of 16-25 years. The same battery can be used as Home Inverter
ICE car even if hybrid. Its causes tail pipe emission, causes dangerous diseases. EVs are least poluting and more efficient in all. Chekc Tony seba analysis, can expect 4C charging BEVs with better range in near future.
Before the genius brigade comes with “but bro thermal electricity” 40% of electricity in India is renewable and only 60% is coal. By 2030, renewable will be in majority (>50%) Coming to the absolutely genius excuse of “battery production”, that must be compared to oil extraction from far off oil rigs in middle of sea, that uses pumps using diesel Then same crude oil is transported to land via huge tanker ships which also run on fossil fuel. Then the refinery where this fuel is refined also uses heat for fractional distillation which again comes from burning fossil fuel. Then this refined fuel is transported to depot using trains again diesel or electricity Then this fuel is transported to each pump using trucks again, diesel Once you count all these emissions from oil supply chain, the numbers for battery production will look tiny in comparison.
@@shresthsonkar9207 BEVs battery production polution can be reduced by technology advancement in refining process. And as BEV efficiency is 85-95% it is always superior to ICE engines having efficiency of 25-30%. So much better than petrol, diesel, cng, flux or hydrogen fuels. So china bet on this a decade ago, but India is still becoming the dump yard of ICE engine, prone to Oil and automobile industry lobbying, shame that we deserve this. Need strict standards like the US, UK, or even China. Need to implement Euro 7 equivalent BS-7 or 8 to curb air pollution, alongside with reduction in industrial emissions.
@@krishnachandramenon8 I’m talking I support of ev’s itself I drive a Nexon EV itself I’m just clarifying for those genius people who may reply to you saying that battery production is harmful (oil production is worse) and that thermal power makes EV useless (still better to have centralised high efficiency power plant than millions of small inefficient power plant ie engines on the road)
I have bee n driving CNG factory fitted car for more than 6 years as a newbie from start, and apart from boot space issue, its probably a very economical for regular drives. And as for the mountainous terrain either switching to backup petrol is good or else the driver's driving skills will solve this issue. At least in Mumbai - Pune - Satara districts the CNG stations are in good numbers
Before purchasing car in 2033 I made 5 page note just to decide what fuel should i opt for and this video touched all these things. I felt I made a right decision❤
Good content... But you didn't mention another biggest deterrent in buying diesel cars, the DPF filter. It is the Achilles heel in BS6 diesel cars, be it cars incorporating adblue or self regenerating DPF ... If diesel cars are driven short distances(
True, and really unfortunate. If you want a diesel now, the best option is to look for a late model bs4 car, something built in 2019. That's what I did, and got a 1.3 S Cross diesel manufactured in 2019, with just 9k kms on the odo
It's so sad that there is literally no development for Plug-in Hybrid cars all over the world. Perfect middle ground between EV and Petrol. 80 to 100 KM of Pure EV range (Enough for your daily commutes). and then you have flexibility to use petrol when planning longer journeys
1st thing: Electric car की बैटरी की रिचार्ज cycle तकरीबन 1500 होती हे, तो कोई EV 200 km चलती है तो, 1500 x 200 = 3,00,000 km चलेगी। उसके बाद बैटरी degradation होगा फिर भी उसको 4-5 लाख km और उसके उपर भी चला सकते है, रेंज कॉम्प्रोमाइज के साथ। 2nd thing: ऐसा जरूरी नहीं है की 8 साल के बाद बैटरी बदलनी हे, क्योंकि बैटरी लाइफ 10-15 साल हो सकती हे। तो उसके बाद 50% degrade होने के बावजूद हम Ev car को 20 साल तक चला सकते है, रेंज कॉम्प्रोमाइज के साथ। तो उस हिसाब से City के लिए EV बेस्ट हे। So no one can beat EV, All defeat.
Going by the logic of the video cng should be on no 1. As it has all the benefits of cng car and when required can run on petrol as well, best of both worlds. And now tata has cng with complete bootspace and amt aswell
Though i purchased a petrol car recently, but i still thinks that people should buy hybrid more. I know all are not in the capacity to buy it, But those who are should definitely go for it. Why? cause that is the only way to bring the prices of hybrid cars down. You buy more, companies would make more, all company would want to attract hybrid buyers therefore all companies would start making hybrids and there will be tough competition in the market and hence companies would price their products competitively. So those who are in budget to have a hybrid, please buy hybrid, for the good of Indian middle class.
Bro. You forgot .wagon R duo LPG version... God that was some Era, people using LPG like water. Now Auto LPG is everywhere.. Great video again.. hope companies consider these models again.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Cng price in noida 82.5 Petrol 97 Suppose 50k is cost of installation of cng or 1lakh more for factory fitted. You wont be able to recover your money soon and cng lines are large plus in winters it doesn’t come to cng quickly No use of it as of now
According to me hybrids are the best option and the only one which has it's future secured...I think EVs are just a short time hype, cool thing and eventually it will boil down and those who say they are green then you're wrong, actual process of making a EV creates more harm to environment than ICE cars and they just don't feel like an alternative to ICEs. Also companies like porsche, toyota are working on various engine types and biofuel which are more safe, environment friendly without losing all the goodness of ICE.
Petrol is best. Hybrid me jagah kam, aur battery wala to cross city ni ja sakte to fayeda ni lene ka. Jiske pas 1 petroleum car already h uske liye theek h battery car. Baki technology me duniya itne aage lekin battery abhi bhi wahi 30saal purani.
I will prefer petrol always. Sedan Petrol Cars. If government push or mandatory EV cars then I will use cycle.
hybrid better
We all do but petrol is expensive
Or we go old school and ride horses 🫡☠️
@@kd1001. horses are more expensive than cars
@@kd1001. bro rather choose cycle than horses. Cycle has almost no maintenence.
I am not a car geek but your videos give me basic understanding. Videos and most importantly, topics, are really fun to watch.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
daily running and long distance light loads- hybrid , daily running and long distance with heavy loads- diesel, intermittent driving and short distance - petrol/cng. Short trips - small EVs
I will always prefer Diesels. Let the government fck itself. I love my diesel Toyota
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Biturbo Media is one of those channels which is the example of quality over quantity.
Hn
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Diesel is the best for Indian road conditions. Also Best fuel economy, best engine life , best resale value , good low end torque for bad road conditions and so many.
Best for doing air pollution too
Diesel h toh mst lekin govt isko pka bnd krdegi khaskrke gaadio mein
@@axel3895tum bc pagal ho kya , bs6 aur bs6 phase 2 bakwas thodi hai ?
No good resale in Delhi ncr
@@parasmongia93 to diesel sirf Delhi me hi thodi ata hai pura bharat hai
Instead of banning 10year old diesel car!!
First ban the 25-30year old govt truck they are not serviced properly and leave large amount of rolling coal!!😡😡😡😡😡😡
It has started happening..inforcement is required..sooner prssure for electric adoption will increase in india for sure..
😂👍🏻 exactly
😂😂
In Dibrugarh Assam passenger auto Vikram and Piaggio are often seen with 20 years of running history
@@Dushyantgiri ev are destroyers of earth
Its time we return to cycle, horses & bullock carts😂6th, 7th & 8th choices👍🇮🇳
12:37 That “Aadi tirchhi” was personal 😂
Spresso🤫
Verna
aadi = S-Presso
tirchhi = Verna
verna and espresso were not harmed in this video 😅😂😂
😂
East or west diesel is the best
But after 2030 it will be banned 😢
What about pollution
@@Rinking123 bio disel should be promoted as the carbon footprint of bio disel is almost 0
And if disel will mixed with electric ( may be future technology) just like petrol hybrid then it will be best for atleast some decades till electric bio lng and green hydrogen can be implemented on large scale along with many r and d
@@Rinking123 Electric Cars are also Not Green...Depending on Electricity in a country where 2/3rd of Electricity comes from Coal is just equally polluting...Also, the mining of Nickel and Cobalt will increase dependency on Oil Sector and region wise on DRC & China...
@@GoRevv electric is future.
I just got a Petrol car towards the end of 2023 due to lack of vfm hybrid options.
I wished the government pushed car makers to focus on hybrids, rather than EV.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Hybrid is temporary stage , should not be promoted
Hybrid is temporary stage , should not be promoted
Hybrid is temporary stage , should not be promoted
Hybrid is temporary stage , should not be promoted
Turbo Diesel is still undisputed for the rest of India, otherwise a NA petrol engine is good enough for most. Turbo petrol is iffy and hybrid batteries need changing on top of engine maintenance.
EV is chutiyapa 😂
You don’t need to charge hybrid vehicles unless they are plug in hybrids. The engine will charge the battery.
@@danbruh33so u think they dont deplet in charging cycles?
@@danbruh33 They will eventually need to be 'Changed' or replaced.
My bad. I read “changing” as “charging”.
In India petrol and diesel will rule another few decades.
When CNG was introduced it was thought to be a game changer but it is yet to reach every town in India and not many models of cars are available by different automobile makers. EV's has recently started gaining traction in some metro's but the range anxiety and lack of charging infrastructure poses greater risk. So overall petrol and diesel will rule for another few decade's.
Our government needs awareness about Series hybrid for 4 wheelers for better fuel efficiency and no range anxiety.
They need to understand that pure EV cars and trucks are impractical.
You can still drive cng car with petrol
EV stronghold is gonna end soon.
@@Bhakt-TheDevotee It is not impractical. It depends on the usage. people who have 9 to 5 works and city users have most benefit from it.
EV is chutiyapa 😂
I think diesel hybrid+15 year validity is best option, also reduce tax on diesel
I will go with Tigor CNG. Probably planning to buy in next couple of years.😊
Good choice my friend owning it since 2 years, one of the most underrated cars, best highway tourer in the compact segment.
I have heard engine is very bad and cost ownership is very high of tata Tiago only because my family is very confused we thinking of getting second hand or wagon r or celerio
Bhai Tigor aram se khareedo, ek no. gadi hai. Safety ka jo confidence milta hai na wo next level hai. @@Xaiobi.i
@@revtey one of my friend has it. In neon colour it looks stunning. Full space in boot because of dual bottle. Avarage of around 25km/kg. Driving experience is super. Feels stable on corners.
I can't say more because I have driven it for sometimes.
Bro just go with tata Altroz cng it's very good car 👍
True, after all these parameters I consider to go for petrol car only
Problem with petrol is 3 cylinder nightmare.
So bad in terms of refinement
@@ChandranPrema123 what about Suzuki's 4 cylinder engines ..
@@ChandranPrema123petrol engine toh bahut silent hota hai
@@ChandranPrema123 that is more issue in lower segment else higher segments have smoother 4 cylinder ones
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Now I totally Satisfied with my choice, even after having Budget of 10 Lakh I bought second hand Maruti Suzuki Zen Estilo (2013 Model 67K driven, Non accidental, Petrol+Green CNG, Brown Colour.) Direct from Single owner.
I have bought this car for only Rs.65K.
We dont do daily running at all, sometimes we have to go out for some work.
For this reason we did not buy a new car.
BTW this is First Car in our Family.❤
Very good decision. I regret selling my figo petrol which was taken for 1 lakh and buying new baleno which cost 8 lakhs. My running is just 3k kms per year. I changed car for just showing to society and people around
Commendable bro
When people do not waste money and know how to spend, I love listening to that!
Great choice, no show off, just practicality!
Everyone talking about car pollution but nobody talking about factory pollution 😢 in India there's no proper rule
According to me 1-Hydro diesel(less polluting diesel fuel)
Yep, you're right, but I don't think the government will support diesel cars anymore.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
@@traderbear6518because of tax regime on certain cubic centimetre engine, length of vehicles and no. Of cylinder for example engine exceeding 1200cc will get bonded with more tax, another example cars under 4 meter length will have less tax as compared to cars with higher then 4 meter in body
@@traderbear6518 thermal efficiency.....
Using diesel to dig the minerals to make the batteries, then no plan for battery disposal, then no plans for other pollutant’s disposal. Govt ki bhi hypocrisy alag hai.
oil does not come out of bathroom tap,
there is emission at extraction stage for digging earth, then pumping out crude using diesel pump
then in ships used to carry crude oil across thousands of km of sea to the refinery
then in refinery to perform fractional distillation, you need to boil the crude, again burn fossil fuel
then transport it in trucks and trains to petrol pumps all over the world
Digging for oil and refining it too cause huge pollution
Battery disposal is not required ,focus should be recyling so that metals used in battey can be reused
Meri 2017 ertiga VDI aj bhi 24 ki average deti hai with comfortable driving experience.
Dude hold my beer. My 2015 Honda Mobilio Vi-DTEC diesel gives 25+ with 1500cc engine, plus it has more space than your Tin ka Dabba. It has strong build quality, smoothest engine, Honda Assurance.
@@HumanityisSupreme dabba hai mobilo 😁😁😁 bundle gadi jo biki hi nahi 😁😁 kise dabba kahe raha hai jo khud dabbe me baithta hai 😁😁hold my mo*t😁😁
🚨 dont consider milage if ev to be same for many years. Just like mobiles batteries will start to degrade and again petrol and diesel will become cost effective to drive.
We have 100K km driven ev’s on our owners group
None of them have any range drop. One guy even did 162k km and his review is on yt itself, he also gets same range as day 1
@@shresthsonkar9207can you please tell me what's the range you are getting on these cars? And if possible which of the existing ev cars are worth purchasing for beginners?
@@sohithlife I get 250km on Nexon EV MR (312 rated)
Depends on your budget
EVs use high density cells that do not degrade just like your mobile phone battery
6:46 Please clear this point cause we don't have to replace all battery. Tata just replace few cells of battery and I think it cost lesser than what you have said
I want to say that, the EV companies should also start a battery recycling plant.
Since lithium and other materials are recyclable from a battery more than 90%, it will help for the profit of companies. Moreover, the companies can use that recycled one in their cars.
Therefore, I assume that it can reduce the price of battery.
The Sodium-ion batteries which may come in future can also help to get the rate of EV's to down.
Actually currently it's not fisable to recycle batteries
Sodium Ion batteries will be more heavy so they are not good for vehicles
The main thing we have to do is to setup a lithium Ion cell factory in India
Currently we import all Li cells from china with 100% import duty so just by manufacturing cells we can bring down the cost of evs by 25-30%
@@gamingwithkiran9610 jerry rig everything did video on battery recycling, 92% of original metal mass in battery can be successfully recovered and recycled to make new battery.
That is, if you recycle 100 batteries, you can make 92 new batteries out of it
You know whats better?
Replacable Batteries like Old Mobiles
@@ChandranPrema123 That replaceable batteries are there. But what is wrong that when we try to replace the old one, it cost some lakhs for a new battery, since the materials for a battery are costly.
When we recollect these materials by recycling the old one, we can gradually decrease the cost of battery.
@@gamingwithkiran9610 There are many plants where batteries are being recycled, with 90+ % of the contents get recycled.
Sodium-ion maybe heavy. But the revolution in technology may find a solution for it.(There are companies like Koenigsegg, which is referred in his previous video, who makes revolutionary things.)
What a coincedence i was just thinking about difference betw. hybrid and ev and then suddenly u uploaded this video
Great video btw
the worst thought is EV. People and Governments thinking EV is safe for environment, and after Petrol, less pollution is Diesel.
Electric ⚡ Vehicle is best Clean and Green 🌱🌍.
What a joke😂😂😂😂
No yur mistaken bro watch pogo😂😅
@@DivyankKaushik ha aap Harvard ke ho na aapko sab pata baki log anpad
If we consider the grid usage in charging, the 100% coal scenario (worst case), the avg grid emissions as of 2020 was 614gCO2/kWh or 0.614gCO2/Wh. (Figures taken from page 5 graph of this pdf : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/EV-emissions-impacts-India-apr2021-01.pdf)
An EV like Nexon can get efficiency of 120Wh/km
An EV like Tiago can get even better at 100Wh/km
By this calculation, a 100% coal powered Nexon EV has a running emission of 74gCO2/km.
For Tiago EV it’s 62gCO2/km.
For reference, you can check emissions of common Maruti cars, cars which are known for “kitna deti hai”. As rule of thumb, more mileage = less emissions
Pdf ph11, indexed pg6 : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/India-hybrids-wp-FINAL.pdf
All Maruti cars except baleno SHVS are above 100gCO2/km. Baleno makes the cut barely at 99.6gCO2/km.
That’s when we counted 100% coal power. In reality only 60% is coal which puts nexon and Tiago at 44gCO2/km and 37gCO2/km.
pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1785808
This is purely tailpipe to smokestack comparison
As of today, EVs are 19% cleaner all things considered theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/
So before you say “but what about battery production”, remember that oil extraction uses electric/diesel pump. 40% of global shipping is just for oil and it’s derivatives, and refining again uses electric furnace or fossil fuel burning to generate heat for fractional distillation. Conservative estimates put oil refining alone at 2-3kWh/litre
qz.com/2113243/forty-percent-of-all-shipping-cargo-consists-of-fossil-fuels
When you add all this to the mix, you’ll see why EVs are better (one time mining + 92% recycling efficiency)
ua-cam.com/video/s2xrarUWVRQ/v-deo.html
m.ua-cam.com/video/1oVrIHcdxjA/v-deo.html
It’s oil extraction which must be compared with battery production as the logical analogue
@@DivyankKaushik If we consider the grid usage in charging, the 100% coal scenario (worst case), the avg grid emissions as of 2020 was 614gCO2/kWh or 0.614gCO2/Wh. (Figures taken from page 5 graph of this pdf : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/EV-emissions-impacts-India-apr2021-01.pdf)
An EV like Nexon can get efficiency of 120Wh/km
An EV like Tiago can get even better at 100Wh/km
By this calculation, a 100% coal powered Nexon EV has a running emission of 74gCO2/km.
For Tiago EV it’s 62gCO2/km.
For reference, you can check emissions of common Maruti cars, cars which are known for “kitna deti hai”. As rule of thumb, more mileage = less emissions
Pdf ph11, indexed pg6 : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/India-hybrids-wp-FINAL.pdf
All Maruti cars except baleno SHVS are above 100gCO2/km. Baleno makes the cut barely at 99.6gCO2/km.
That’s when we counted 100% coal power. In reality only 60% is coal which puts nexon and Tiago at 44gCO2/km and 37gCO2/km.
pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1785808
This is purely tailpipe to smokestack comparison
As of today, EVs are 19% cleaner all things considered theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/
Kya joke maraa hh 😂😂
I'd still put cng on top because I recently bought swift cng and it's performance with cng is mind-blowing! That's because of dual jet technology! I've driven around 500 kms and it has given me a mileage of 27 in city and this without the first service! Also, remember that I travel with ac, but hardly any drag because of 1.2 litre engine.
Another amazing part is that the bootspace is still not that bad, you can place clothes filled bags on the cng tank and around it. Also, it has removable tray, so more storage.
Conclusion: cng is the best. If you get a chance to grab one, don't miss the opportunity.
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
I agree with your point regarding the number of cylinders. The refinement in 4 cylinder engines is just unmatched and it is good economically too. But as far as making forced induction and GDI compulsory is concerned, it will just make the engines less reliable and also will have a higher upfront cost (maybe with higher maintenance too). For example, GDI injects the fuel directly into the combustion chamber, so the cylinder liner design should be such that it should not only withstand that high pressure but also be extremely leak proof. PDI engines are just simpler and also have more mileage, which at least 60% of the population wants. Even with turbos, you have to deal with that initial lag if your pressure is too high. So city use is pretty cumbersome. Even the old cars which you mentioned had more displacement with NA engines instead of these tech. Hence were more reliable.
So yeah if you’re a driving enthusiast who wants that adrenaline rush on the highways and stuff, go with GDI or forced induction car, but as for the majority of the population, they would rather be happy with NA.
But yeah, both wouldn’t be happy with the 3 cylinder vibrations for sure😅
@@c04-rhikbanerjee55I will also take the large displacement NA engine, over a GDI engine, but problem is due to trend of downsizing, engines are becoming smaller day by day. Due to it being so small, NA engines are not able to make enough power, maybe that's why GDI and Forced induction came into the picture.
@@c04-rhikbanerjee55hey, what is "PDI" ?
Yeah I totally get that. For performance, GDI or forced induction is anyway better
By the way, PDI is port direct injection, just like most vehicles in the market
I would put electric on #3. Range on all cars are enough to cover daily city driving, and you can charge it at night. It is very efficient in city driving due to frequent stops and low speeds. Lastly as for cost, the savings in fuel cost more than make up for difference in EMI, and you get much superior driving experience.
He’s biased against EV
Obviously he will oppose it
Heck I’m surprised he didn’t put EV at #5
Infra issue is with cng also if you give logic that don’t fill cng you can drive on petrol also, if I wanted to drive on petrol why would I buy cng car, I’ll save that extra money and buy petrol car itself
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
I have xuv700 diesel manual.. clocked 22k kms.. absolute beast in each and every department.. and the cherry on the cake is the mileage.. i am easily getting 20kmpl on highway,
You're lying about the mileage 😂😂
@@Anoymous464 okay
@@gpjoseph9807 I have not bought this car for mileage.. but I am getting more than 20kmpl on highway.. Now just to satisfy peoples notion should I just lie and say "Ohh, I am getting horrible mileage"?
I'm all for electric vehicles as long as they got that solid state batteries.Even if its from a chinese manufactures like CATL or BYD.
Why was 3rd gen Honda City not advised?? I'm planning to buy one in 3 lkh range. Is it a good deal in 2024?... preferably 2012 model of city.
Paidal chalungaa, leikin electric car kabhi bhi nahi lungaa....never never😢😢
Always in support with ICE cars
Itni phychological problem mujhe bhi ice pasnd hai per kuch nya bhi chahta hu ev desel dono better hai government ko ice ban nhi krma chahiye
Kyu yar ev se hate kyu
5. Diesel
4. EV
3. CNG
2. Hybrid (Primarily Strong Hybrid)
1. Petrol
Thank me in the replies 🗿
got the "The Advanced Grand Vitara I Intelligent Electric Hybrid System" Ad on Biturbo's video
Bootspace ki zaroorat sirf sheher se baahar leke jaane mein padti hai. City ke liye CNG best hai agar running zyaada hai toh nahi toh petrol best hai. Bas sirf 2 options
Very well explained, watched this well researched video and subscribed🎉🎉
In Mumbai the maximum age of Petrol car is 15 years and if you want to keep your car few more years then you have to pay some amount which is known as green tax and you can keep 5 more years and in total the maximum age after paying green tax is 20 years for petrol cars and if you want to extend you can't extend at any cost. After 20 years you have to move your car from Mumbai or you have to scrap the car. Even if I am wrong so you can correct me (telling only about Mumbai and not about other states/Cities)
Is Diesel still more polluting from BS6? I think emissions of Diesel vehicles reduced drastically, equivalent to Petrol vehicles in BS6 and more so in BS6 Phase 2. Petrol cars do not match the Torquey nature of Diesel cars.
Your videos are very well rounded in terms of coverage of topics. They are also very relevant and useful most of the times for your viewers. I am one of your viewera who benefits from your research and script. I myself do a lot of research and happened to develop my own vehicle selection tool back in 2013.
These daus, I am trying to assess the usefulness of engine remap. While various remap codes promise their benefits towards the reapective car models, I am drawn to 2 major factors that these generally promise - 10% power and torque increase in stage 1 remap and also an increased fuel efficiency in city driving, due to higher torque at lower RPM, at lower gears.
Could you please consider this as a topic for one of your forthcoming videos? I look forward to your valuable work.
Thanks
Petrol or diesel which car gives more driving experience . Does any bad with petrol carss. For enthusiasts
Petrol+ CNG govt need to reduce price of cng like 60-65.
For CNG govt should also decrease road tax like 1.2ltrengine under sub 4 meter car 1.5ltr engine should be ideal with cng enabled company fitted
Like ertiga cng engine performance would be good in car like Swift/baleno
I am planning to buy a car after 4-5 yrs which car should I plan, my monthly run will be around 400-500 km maximum, budget around 20 lakhs max
Folks this is such an informative channel and his videos are so in-depth and detail oriented... Yet there are only under 4 lakh subscribers...
Bhai log we strictly need to increase this channel's general following and especially the view counts...
Nai toh 90% humare yahaan ke consumers toh bas aankh moond kar kabootar bane baithe hain 😓
Diesel car is problem then what about Diesel Trucks??? No one talks about this, approximately 4Million trucks in India and cars approx 1.6 million, they doesn't exist on earth right 😂 unnecessarily diesel cars are targeted because to sell EV, manufacturing companies, diesel trucks, unwanted waste dumping etc these are not causing pollution, Only diesel cars, come on guys wake up its pure strategy to sell EV which is causing more pollution then any other things but they will not talk about it.
Diesel still best as milage generally achieve for 1.5 ltr engine is more 20kmpl with ease ,and this milage on full load with full AC seating with suffecient power on highway or while on climbing on ghats where as petrol milage started lowering in power demand condition some time milage show single digits especially on turbo GDI engine so still diesel tech is best as diesel engine has higher effeciency among all IC engine counterparts
My father purchased Ford ecosport diesel because he wanted something which resembles SUV but wanted something which he can afford to purchase and drive.
I have petrol + cng which means great
Simple Calculation- Nexon Petrol Top Model (AT) - 17 lakh.
Nexon EV Top Model- 21 lakh.
Subsidy- 1.5 lakh
Difference- 2.5 lakh only.
Considering low running cost & minimal maintenance, I am happy with my purchase of EV. In 6 months, I have covered 8500km, with approx 6000 rupees of Electricity bill. But I the issue is faced with Tata SC was so terrible that I wont recommend Tata to anyone.
🔥💀Nitin Gadkari ji: Dhamki Dene Ka Tarika Thoda KEZUAL hai. LOL!😂🤣
Seedha diesel bnd krenge😢
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Can someone tell the govt that pollution is not just due to cars, but mainly due to their outdated govt buses? Not to mention the amount of old trucks still running like hell.
12:34 scorpio petrol me available nahi hai
Still didn't mention plugshare app and using old stats of charging infra despite telling you in comments of multiple videos in past 5:40
No hopes from these channels. Anyway they are always biased against EVs.
1.TGDI petrol engine options are very limited
2. Mileage also an issue in TGDI petrol engines
3. Common belief is that petrol maintenence & servicing are cheaper. If you are servicing your car in authorised service centres then the cost will almost be the same for both diesel & petrol engines.
4. Petrol engines are less durable compared to diesel engines.
Taxes from petrol & diesel are the main source of income for the government and they will never ban ICE car's production & selling in any near point of time. If otherwise occurs and EV's rule the market, the government will definitely impose huge taxes for electricity , EV cars and EV's cost effectiveness will decline. Even at that point of time diesel cars purchased in this period will still prove economical as fuel cost may not escalate due to lower diesel demand and abundant supply of oil from the middle east. The only issue diesel owners will be facing is the EV's flying around them at 100 kms in 3 sec's.
In future if technology changes both petrol & diesel cars are not going to attract any kind of second hand value .
Banning newly purchased diesel vehicle after 10 years is a long time & if you are a driving enthusiast why restrict yourself now on flimsy 3 cylinder & dull 4 cylinder NA petrol engines.😂
Fuel taxes are required to be high because importing fuel in dollars leads to forex drain
More ev’s means less forex drain so you don’t have to collect as much tax because you make own electricity.
We buy fuel in dollar but pay in rupee that’s why high tax is needed to balance out the forex drain
Else we will also end up like Sri Lanka and paxtan
Ev best h. Low maintenance, easy drive etc
Resale value kaisa hai?
@@YashSingh-xs5yjmilta nhi hh.. aur ek brr Battery replacement issue ayaa to bangaar mehh jaiga.. jo hota hh.. aur koi bolta vi nhi hh is chiz ko
Double cost hai Electric ka
This is no doubt the best automotive channel, so sensible and practical analysis of data. Your content makes so much sense. Thank you for bringing quality content everytime. ❤❤❤
I will go with Diesel.😂
You're not the smartest
Same 😂
Diesel used car , is Ok
Means Desh jaaye bhad mein main To apni Bari karunga hai na
I used petrol car and I don't think naturally aspirated engines are producing good enough powers. They are laggy. Turbo petrol are good but milage issue. Thus diesel. I hope that make sense. Also bs6 diesels emissions are quite controlled so there not much issue.
Is it accurate that the GST on EV vehicles and charging, which was previously 18%, has been reduced to 5%? Could you please provide a link for reference on this matter?
EV is the recent future
Loll 🤣🤣 evs is biggest scam of the world
Bs6 diesel cars are less pollutants compared to petrol cars. In Diesel cars, only Nox is higher , it is also negligible with SCR/Dnox. Petrol car produces more CO emissions than diesel. false propoganda is killing diesel.
No one is talking about electricity production pollution and battery recycling.
For driving enthusiasts nothing matches the performance of TSI and TGDI engines mated to DSG and DCT gearbox.
2L and 2.2L diesel engines give same mileage as 1.5TSI and 1.5TGDI engines.
A XUV 700 or Harrier Diesel AT returns almost same mileage as a Seltos 1.5 turbo DCT or 1.5 TSI DSG engines from VW/Skoda.
Why only worry about mileage. Some prefer driving pleasure, comfort and tech.
@@ashishIMpro Ya the 1.5 TSI engines from VW/Skoda and the 1.5 TGDI engines from KIA/Hyundai are the benchmarks of engine technology. Like VW/Skoda offer cylinder deactivation technology that shuts down 2 cylinder at lower rpm for better efficiency. And KIA/Hyundai offer Variable Valve Technology that has same function.
I agree with most of the points you have mentioned here, however one of the things you have mentioned was the maintenance cost is less for EV and Hybrids, but that's not true. Let's keep the practicality aside for a while because that's one of the known drawback of EV and also agree that the running cost is low for EV, but the maintenance frequencies and part replacement are still much more higher than the non-EV cars. Also want to consider few of the safety aspects as well.
ev is NOT pollution free. The only futuristic solution would be Hybrids and Hydrogens.
and definitely petrol is still here to stay for at least 25-30 years in India! it is hardly possible to change the whole fleet from petrol to non petrol because that will create huge price hike in market.
Hydrogen is impractical
look up how hydrogen is made -- using CH4 reforming, its worse than thermal power plant
even if you use water and electrolysis, you need 50kWh electricity and 60L water to make 1kg H2 gas
1kg h2 can let mirai fcev drive for just 100km
while same 50kWh worth of renewable electricity can charge model s for 50% and drive 250-300km
@@shresthsonkar9207best mode is cycle 😂
yes, but it might be formed with less pollution if researched heavily in future.
moreover H2 will have pumps just like petrol or diesel and it won't take 30-70 minutes (ye bhi kam karke bola w.r.t. ev's charging time) to have a full tank h2. yes the range might be less as of now but in future it will increase!@@shresthsonkar9207
Hydrogen is pollution free? Hydrogen also needs electricity to produce if ypu consider electrolysis. If its obtained from methane, then again its from carbon based fuel. From where do you get electricity for hydrolysis? Also electrolysis at best is 60% efficient.
I purchased scorpion petrol Mannual 2 years back. My monthly running is not more than 800km. I am not from NCR but Bhopal. My decision was right or wrong because diesel saves almost Rs. 3 per km.
Guys don't get mislead by half baked information like this guy is providing. I own a diesel sedan which I used to commute to my office daily. My daily running is 135 km approx. I used to spend 15000-16000/- every month on fuel expenses alone. (let alone the maintenance cost) For this reason I did thorough research and bought Tiago EV (yes, my diesel sedan is still with me). Now my running cost per month is 3500-4000/- , which is a big relief. One thing I'll let you know is that you can't have an EV as your only car. If you're certain that your daily commute is fixed than EV is a blessing. You can cover the higher purchase price within 2-3 years. Also the lithium ion batteries are high quality, they don't die just like that.
Finally someone talking facts. All I see these days are petrolheads bashing EVs without even understanding about them and saying hydrogen is the future, without having a slightest knowledge of how hydrogen works and what problems are holding it back.
@@shas312 and all these h2 supporters are probably the same people who bunked chemistry class in school “because I will never apply it in real life”
Good classification, would also add on strong hybrid compromise with respect to boot space, at least in City & Vitara.
Hope govt rationalizes tax of strong hybrids and encourages PHEVs to substantially reduce emissions in urban areas.
0:58 hybrid* not hybird
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More features on EV: They have 8 years warranty on battery pack. Charging infra is strong in many places, can charge in a petrol pump as well but using slow charger. Tata has LFP battery that Tesla uses in some of its car and has life of 16-25 years. The same battery can be used as Home Inverter
Chindii pana chaal ta hh Ev se.. City rides k liye thik hh baaki long rides k liye Petrol, Disele best hh.. saab jagaa Ev ev maat challao
ICE car even if hybrid. Its causes tail pipe emission, causes dangerous diseases. EVs are least poluting and more efficient in all. Chekc Tony seba analysis, can expect 4C charging BEVs with better range in near future.
Before the genius brigade comes with “but bro thermal electricity”
40% of electricity in India is renewable and only 60% is coal. By 2030, renewable will be in majority (>50%)
Coming to the absolutely genius excuse of “battery production”, that must be compared to oil extraction from far off oil rigs in middle of sea, that uses pumps using diesel
Then same crude oil is transported to land via huge tanker ships which also run on fossil fuel.
Then the refinery where this fuel is refined also uses heat for fractional distillation which again comes from burning fossil fuel.
Then this refined fuel is transported to depot using trains again diesel or electricity
Then this fuel is transported to each pump using trucks again, diesel
Once you count all these emissions from oil supply chain, the numbers for battery production will look tiny in comparison.
EVs bhi pollution krti h silently😅
@@shresthsonkar9207 BEVs battery production polution can be reduced by technology advancement in refining process. And as BEV efficiency is 85-95% it is always superior to ICE engines having efficiency of 25-30%. So much better than petrol, diesel, cng, flux or hydrogen fuels. So china bet on this a decade ago, but India is still becoming the dump yard of ICE engine, prone to Oil and automobile industry lobbying, shame that we deserve this. Need strict standards like the US, UK, or even China. Need to implement Euro 7 equivalent BS-7 or 8 to curb air pollution, alongside with reduction in industrial emissions.
@@krishnachandramenon8 I’m talking I support of ev’s itself
I drive a Nexon EV itself
I’m just clarifying for those genius people who may reply to you saying that battery production is harmful (oil production is worse) and that thermal power makes EV useless (still better to have centralised high efficiency power plant than millions of small inefficient power plant ie engines on the road)
@@DivyankKaushik ice car will always use 100% fossil fuel only
But EV uses 40% renewable energy and 60% fossil only
In future it will reduce further
Ev price must come down. Ev only for me. Sabkhi apni apni choice h.
I have bee n driving CNG factory fitted car for more than 6 years as a newbie from start, and apart from boot space issue, its probably a very economical for regular drives. And as for the mountainous terrain either switching to backup petrol is good or else the driver's driving skills will solve this issue. At least in Mumbai - Pune - Satara districts the CNG stations are in good numbers
Before purchasing car in 2033 I made 5 page note just to decide what fuel should i opt for and this video touched all these things. I felt I made a right decision❤
Good content... But you didn't mention another biggest deterrent in buying diesel cars, the DPF filter. It is the Achilles heel in BS6 diesel cars, be it cars incorporating adblue or self regenerating DPF ... If diesel cars are driven short distances(
True, and really unfortunate.
If you want a diesel now, the best option is to look for a late model bs4 car, something built in 2019.
That's what I did, and got a 1.3 S Cross diesel manufactured in 2019, with just 9k kms on the odo
It's so sad that there is literally no development for Plug-in Hybrid cars all over the world.
Perfect middle ground between EV and Petrol.
80 to 100 KM of Pure EV range (Enough for your daily commutes).
and then you have flexibility to use petrol when planning longer journeys
Who else saw grand viatra ad
1st thing: Electric car की बैटरी की रिचार्ज cycle तकरीबन 1500 होती हे, तो कोई EV 200 km चलती है तो, 1500 x 200 = 3,00,000 km चलेगी। उसके बाद बैटरी degradation होगा फिर भी उसको 4-5 लाख km और उसके उपर भी चला सकते है, रेंज कॉम्प्रोमाइज के साथ।
2nd thing: ऐसा जरूरी नहीं है की 8 साल के बाद बैटरी बदलनी हे, क्योंकि बैटरी लाइफ 10-15 साल हो सकती हे। तो उसके बाद 50% degrade होने के बावजूद हम Ev car को 20 साल तक चला सकते है, रेंज कॉम्प्रोमाइज के साथ।
तो उस हिसाब से City के लिए EV बेस्ट हे।
So no one can beat EV, All defeat.
Going by the logic of the video cng should be on no 1. As it has all the benefits of cng car and when required can run on petrol as well, best of both worlds. And now tata has cng with complete bootspace and amt aswell
But cng bootspace gone
My mom have an old celerio cng it give around 30-35 easily still in 2024 so I think I will go with a cng car in future.
Govt be like: EV is better!
Biturbo: Aage se kuch bolunga to bura mann jaoge
Ev is best i driven 60000 Nexon ev in zero rupees because i have 5kw solar system my daily running is 140 km i am very happy with my ev car😊😊
Points missed out -> Road Tax benefit on EV & the fact that EV or CNG can reduce trade imbalance for India as both need not depend on oil imports.
Petrol is still best considering the high upfront cost of EV's. For low to medium running petrol is smart choice.
What about this?
Within City eV & CNG
Around the Country Petrol & Hybrid
@@YashSingh-xs5yj yes good if running is high
No matter what I will go for electric
Ev is great
But for City rides
Should I go for Tiago ev for city use ?
I have 6kw solar panels installed at home
Diesel power
Lpg Or Cng conversion.. Which I'd good for petrol cars????
Jis youtuber ne electric se jada ghatiya diesel ko batyaa usse to kya hi umeeed kre
Points missed -
1. Petrol gives low mileage (even lesser than 10 kmph)
2. EV loses power rapidly above speed of 80 kmph, so unfit for highways
Who always see grand vitara ads 😂😂😂
Though i purchased a petrol car recently, but i still thinks that people should buy hybrid more. I know all are not in the capacity to buy it, But those who are should definitely go for it. Why?
cause that is the only way to bring the prices of hybrid cars down. You buy more, companies would make more, all company would want to attract hybrid buyers therefore all companies would start making hybrids and there will be tough competition in the market and hence companies would price their products competitively. So those who are in budget to have a hybrid, please buy hybrid, for the good of Indian middle class.
Beautiful Analysis. So well done.
Bro. You forgot .wagon R duo LPG version... God that was some Era, people using LPG like water. Now Auto LPG is everywhere.. Great video again.. hope companies consider these models again.
ye car mera ghar he golden colour me
Few years back, we used to get 1.6l engines in normal hatchbacks, 2l engines in most mid range sedans. Now most engines are half of the size, and almost all of them are 3 cylinder models only. Why do car makers reduce the number of cylinders? Does anyone not know the less no. of cylinders in an engine, the more it vibrates. So why do these stupid things? Why can't they use 4 cylinder engines in all the cars available in India? Fyi Even the old Alto used to come with a 1040cc 4 cylinder engine, now only 3 cylinder vibrators are available in this car. It sounds so horrible, and the seat vibrations is so pronounced. What's your take on this matter? Should car makers set a minimum engine size for all cars? how about implementing a new rule, that all petrol engines must have GDI and Forced induction?
Cng price in noida 82.5
Petrol 97
Suppose 50k is cost of installation of cng or 1lakh more for factory fitted. You wont be able to recover your money soon and cng lines are large plus in winters it doesn’t come to cng quickly
No use of it as of now
No matter what, I will use petrol car only!... there's no way ICE will end... EV is just a short term euphoria
Koi mujhe ye batao ki ye 10 years diesel car wala rule sirf delhi me hai ya baki kahi bhi hai
I hardly comment on any such car review video but this time I came across this such an informative video. Great channel. Keep it up.
You are doing a great job man, genuinely pushing us to make informed decision!
what about hybrid with diesel engine like new generation of fortuner (coming this year)
According to me hybrids are the best option and the only one which has it's future secured...I think EVs are just a short time hype, cool thing and eventually it will boil down and those who say they are green then you're wrong, actual process of making a EV creates more harm to environment than ICE cars and they just don't feel like an alternative to ICEs. Also companies like porsche, toyota are working on various engine types and biofuel which are more safe, environment friendly without losing all the goodness of ICE.
Let's wait for a Decade, Let Toyota's WATER Engine comes ❤
Petrol is best. Hybrid me jagah kam, aur battery wala to cross city ni ja sakte to fayeda ni lene ka. Jiske pas 1 petroleum car already h uske liye theek h battery car.
Baki technology me duniya itne aage lekin battery abhi bhi wahi 30saal purani.