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I will say that the left side is more orange and the Sony side is red and the realistic difference is immense the Sony looks a lot more realistic in the Red Spectrum. Im not color blind at all though... 1 in 3 males are.
I'm the jabroni who got a ZV-E1, sold it for a a7Siii (for EVF and dual slots), then sold it and went back to the ZV-EI, I do lots of hiking / outdoors video, I can echo a lot of what you're laying down here 1 - You get used to the smaller form factor ,and the lighter weight makes a difference when dragging it around. 2 - The ZV-E1 combined with a 16-35 f4 G is small and lets me get everything I need. Sometimes I go 20-70 f4 G. 3 - The ZV-E1 with the compact 24mm f2.8 is incredible, sucker fits in your front pocket. 4 - Used in a studio / long run situation it overheats. Open all the doors and battery cover and you get more time. I got a FX-30 for my studio shots and use the ZV-E1 out and about. 5 - When it's really sunny outside I miss the EVF but I can solve by cupping my hand over the LCD screen 6 - I miss the custom dial on the a7siii. 7 - Just swipe off the side UI so you don't accidentally hit it. I've accidentally turned the focus target to insect too many times and I look like a grasshopper. 8 - When I'm hiking 15 miles into the middle of nowhere it would be nice to know I had 2 slots / backup, but I use a Sony Tough SD card and so far no problems. 9 - The tracking/framing features don't come off smooth and just look like you're being followed by a security camera. 10 - I like the dynamic active stab for regular shots when my footing is tough, walking and talking, or when I'm just wiped out and need more steady love. I wish it did better for actual moving shots. It won't replace a gimbal. I use my ZV-E1 with a Pocket3 on hikes and I'm able to make footage look pretty decent. & also a big fan amigo
Just watched your Wheeler Peak hike. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for the thoughts here on the ZV-E1. I also carry my camera while hiking in Pennsylvania. I've had an X-T3 for about four years or so and really like it. But, wondering about what I want to do next sometimes and good to hear from another hiker. Seems like a great little camera. I think I'd really miss the EVF though as I do more photography than video.
@@charliejg Thanks for checking out the channel. Yea for hiking I often start at sunrise and the ZV-E1 handles it like a champ. If the low light performance wasn't such a big deal I'd probably check outthe A7Cii which has the EVF and is great for stills.
@@Hikingguy Yeah, that low light performance is an issue for video. I've done a couple videos using a GoPro and my phone. I just really hate the editing process so I haven't stayed with shooting videos.
I am literally deciding between go all out on zve1 or just get pocket osmo 3. biggest thing abt osmo for me is I think it's way too wide. vlogging looks a bit weird like a .6 lens on a phone
Can we please get this comment I'm replying to the top number of likes in this video comment section? Please. Just take one second and like that comment. Kasey needs to always run across roads in slow motion. Always.
You can enable 1/48th shutter speed by going into the Image quality tab, scrolling down to (shutter/silent), and enabling (Anti-flicker Set). You will now be able to change the shutter speed in smaller increments.
I can’t give up my viewfinder, and living in Texas, it might over heat. For vlogging, the Pocket 3 is the way to go. It’s just so much easier to carry around. It would be more of a sideways move for me, not an upgrade.
I've filmed concerts in 90 degree F weather,, direct sunlight, for 10-20 minutes a take,, and I've never had overheating before.. idk how much it helps,, but I bought the white one to hopefully deflect some light rays
@@toneohmif I didn’t already have an A7S3, I would probably buy one, and one of those fans that snaps on. It’s a whole lot cheaper, but I wouldn’t sell my A7S3 for one. It’s definitely a nice camera, but I rather keep my view finder.
I owned the a7siii since it was released and the a7iv since it was released. Sold them both for the zve1 and a7cii. I absolutely loved the a7siii but my I enjoy the zve1 so much more. I do also own the fx3 mainly because of the internal fan, never have to worry about overheating. The zve1 and a7cii will overheat even in my studio, fx3 is like a rock!! With the zve1 I love the dynamic stab, eye autofocus in clear image zoom and auto framing.
Ive been a a7siii shooter for years. Now I own two ZV-E1s instead. The dynamic stabe is crazy! And it has superior AF, with the AI chip, its really noticable. Never had either of them overheat, not even a warning. I will not go back.
COLOURS? Jesus Kasey, just do the white balance adjust, move it a bit to magenta and you fix it, LOL. Its an old fix we did 10 years ago with the Sony A7s, amazing to me that no one even talks about it.
Seems to me it was more magenta on my 10bit OLED broadcast monitor, the Sony has a slight yellow hue, its not as bad as Kasey seems to think but a lot of uncalibrated monitors today have really warm temperatures on their white balance for some reasons.
@@SMGJohn thank you, because I surely was looking at the video on my phone and it looked alot clearer I may be a little brighter. I don't think no cell phones come calibrated Maybe I'm Wrong.
@@parishill630 Depends what cellphone you have, all iPhones have calibrated screens and they have a cinema mode in the settings which is the most accurate colourwise. There is also Sony Xperia 1 series they all have 10bit displays which are broadcast calibrated. Samsung S series flagships are also calibrated with their "neutral" colour mode but just keep in mind that displays can shift in colour over time, usually after one year you should be calibrating the monitor again.
No viewfinder is the only issue I have but I'll survive, other than that I love this camera. Affordable, All the features a fellow youtube Dbag could ever need. 🙌🏾
Lens can make a difference. What are you using? Some aftermarket lens don't provide ideal results. Even Sony lenses with/without OSS change the results obviously too.
@@JetBen555 These Sony scrubs still don't get that electronic stabilization is useless when going for the 180 degree shutter angle look. Put a GoPro with ND filters on a vehicle with 180 degree shutter angle and the electronic stabilization is baked into the motion blur; it looks bad and is unsuable. Now, on a GoPro it's okay. They are small cameras and you can just avoid ND filters and use ReelSmart Motion Blur in post to mimic a semi realistic motion blur if you don't want to use a gimbal. For the cost of a GoPro, it's acceptable. For true handheld, stable and usable "cinematic" footage, you need good in body stabilization (unless going for a pure hand held look, in that case, no IBIS is fine). This is where Panasonic shines; there's no need for a gimbal. The OP scrub here doesn't know how EIS works and thinks the artifacts are a problem with their settings. No, you chose Sony. You will never have smooth, cinematic motion blur when handheld. Now you get to be like every other noob who shoots video in aperture priority. Sony has ruined videography. You need fast shutter speed to have EIS be effective (motion blur artifacts won't show). But a fast shutter speed is generally not cinematic unless you're recording action scenes (I'm generalizing). So the Sony scrubs are stuck with Sony's tiny E-mount which has no room for proper physical stabilization. They have to use EIS. Anyone who understands this knows that Sony is useless for true run and gun cinematic video making. You want that pleasing motion blur. Don't be like the scrubs with their choppy video footage.
@AprilClayton Either this is a troll post or true ignorance. Videographers should know that EIS does not allow for good motion blur (slower shutter speeds). These Sony scrubs still don't get that electronic stabilization is useless when going for the 180 degree shutter angle look. Put a GoPro with ND filters on a vehicle with 180 degree shutter angle and the electronic stabilization is baked into the motion blur; it looks bad and is unsuable. Now, on a GoPro it's okay. They are small cameras and you can just avoid ND filters and use ReelSmart Motion Blur in post to mimic a semi realistic motion blur if you don't want to use a gimbal. For the cost of a GoPro, it's acceptable. For true handheld, stable and usable "cinematic" footage, you need good in body stabilization (unless going for a pure hand held look, in that case, no IBIS is fine). This is where Panasonic shines; there's no need for a gimbal. The OP scrub here doesn't know how EIS works and thinks the artifacts are a problem with their settings. No, you chose Sony. You will never have smooth, cinematic motion blur when handheld. Now you get to be like every other noob who shoots video in aperture priority. Sony has ruined videography. You need fast shutter speed to have EIS be effective (motion blur artifacts won't show). But a fast shutter speed is generally not cinematic unless you're recording action scenes (I'm generalizing). So the Sony scrubs are stuck with Sony's tiny E-mount which has no room for proper physical stabilization. They have to use EIS. Anyone who understands this knows that Sony is useless for true run and gun cinematic video making. You want that pleasing motion blur. Don't be like the scrubs with their choppy video footage.
I remember we got into a little back and forth about this camera in the comments before. I'm shocked that you're actually testing it. Still didn't watch the video but I'm glad you're at least testing it. My opinion is still that it's the most underrated and misunderstood camera sony has made in years.
Colors: ZVE1 have less yellow in general (looking at the wall it appears to have a more natural color but still warm), blue light looks less cyan and more bluish, the greens in the trees looks ok, but I think would need more tests to see if it doesn't have the brownish greens of the a7sIII. Pleasing look overal in vlogging. Still not Canon colors, but giving more Nikon/ black magic vibes. Stabilization: active stabilization sucks; dynamic seems ok, but I sttil fell that the lens its not comunicating entirely with the camera. (maybe micro jitterings) Auto framing: cool and strange, the focal length + lighting + angle, it felt like I was seeing you inside a giant box lol
ZV-E1 finally! Nice nice! It has the best Video out of the A7RV and S5II I have to say. Stabe cannot match Panaboy by far unfortunately. But the small Size together with 4K120 and HD240 is unmatched. Love it!
Took me a while to realize the camera wasn't on some included tracking mount but just using sensor crop. Very impressive. Auto framing off was a slight bit nauseating, but would be good at high frame rates.
Mine is a demo from shops after cashback approx. $1100 usd. With that price, nothings even marginally touching in the next 3 yrs. Absolutely luxury in terms of flexibility, tonnes of logs and color tones to play (used CSC to generate everything applied in body during the day, and at night switch to slog3 iso 12800 and CSC afterwards. ) rolling shutter free, loads of frame rate and bit rate options, buffer never filled up, tons of MI mic options including DJI to choose from, all build-in and post stabilization options. The lens varieties, no matter full frame or apsc, are out of the world. Copping options nothing comes close. All external monitors are compatible and all IOS/Android monitoring apps compatible. All gimbals no matter bug or small and the after market BT remotesand grips work, never had troubles fits in every carrying bag daily. What a complete solution
I'm not on a calibrated monitor but the ZVE1 appears to have less colors, as if its gone from 14bit raw to 12bit raw. It looks anemic in color like when I've had in the past a dslr with 12bit files and then stepping up to 14 bit raw files with a lot more color depth. The ZVE1 looks like its gone backwards like 12 bit raw image. The A7Siii has more color and saturation outdoors.
Yep. I have a calibrated screen and the ZV-E1 has what I refer to as "candy colours". They're blocks of primary colours with few nuaces within. For instance, the t-shirt is just one shade of red, the sky is one shade of blue and the trees are one shade of green. It's not a good look.
My biggest gripe with the A7S-III right now is how many pixels have been "dying". I know it happens to all sensors but on the A7S3 when it happens, it's really noticable. I've had to run pixel mapping 5 times or so to actually remedy it. Kind of scares me how rapidly it seems to be accumulating errors.
It's mainly an indoor vlog camera; with cinema features. Between the thermals, the single SD card, no EVF, etc. it's not hard to see the limitations for video production. Even if someone made a 20mm pancake lens to make the ZV-E1 a pocket camera that was "so light" that it's Fun To Use, it just makes more sense to vlog with a DJI Pocket 3, unless one obsesses over "cinematic blurry backgrounds" for all those film-like video myself as I'm walking and talking to the camera shots, just like they do in the movies. This is probably the reason why they can be picked up well below original price despite being relatively new (nothing has replaced it). There just isn't a massive market for them, but it does fill a perfect little niche that Sony was a Good Brah for covering, with a full feature set that wasn't stripped down. "Professional Vlogger's Camera?" I kind of want one, and hope there's an upcoming "Casey shits all over the ZV-E1 and sticks to the a7Siii" video to talk me out of it.
such bullshit. you dont need EVF when you have a monitor. you dont need x2 sd cards for all productions. and the thermal issue can be rectified if you so fit. its limitations are because its cheaper. go look at every industry everything gets stripped down and the more you pay the more you get. its not an indoor vlog camera at all. its Netflix quality in a small form factor.
Zve1 is awesome, I have one, but since I got the osmo pocket 3 I rarely use it, and it’s a shame because I don’t really even like the pocket 3 that much. It’s fragile and annoying and I never seem to get the gimbal in the right mode. But it is tiny and have a great image quality, and for vlogging it’s just impossible to beat. Who would pick the zve1 over the pocket 3 to go outside with?
When you first had the color side by side I only noticed how bright canary red your shirt was in the new sony compared to the a7s3. I saw no wrinkles or 3d anything, just a bright field of color. Then you mentioned yellower skin so I looked and I guess I could see how that was missing in the new camera. But I wasn’t thrilled with the colors. Outside was just “okay” - would need to see some more split screen comparisons. That lens was good for outside for sure, in terms of focus and separation without overtonnehing. Small and capable is fun!
looks killer bro, like the colours perfect outside abit better inside even,,, vf3 Olympus viewfinder in hot shoe slot for when you want to use the Sony macro lens, when you want to use that only.
Thanks for this video. I'm also considering to buy the ZV-E1. Please make more footage with different lenses especially which lens would be in your eyes the best lens for portrait and landscape photos on a tripod. And also your opinion about the S-Cinetone look.
Hey Kasey, thanks for the test ! Have a question about the ZV-E1 : are the dynamic and active stab mode available in 4K120 ? And also, do you have any idea of what is the crop factor when in 4K120 & maximum stab activated ? Wondering because if the crop is more or less equivalent to APSC size then it might be worth using APSC lens for the compactness and weight !
I did a lot of stabe testing with my ZV-E1 and found it not good enough. Active stabe is too jittery. Dynamic active introduces jumping even with slight panning. I can see the same in your footage and was wondering if your A7SIII footage is more stable when comparing active stabe on both cameras.
Sony design team - we have a straight ruler & some hard play dough. Let's build a camera. Yes, people will hold it with their hands, but they need to toughen up
Was expecting bigger difference in colours, because when I switched from a6600 to a6700 difference was easily noticable, especially greens, on a6600 greens were like a one ugly colour soup.
Been waiting for this, I been curious about the ZV-E1 but Ill rent it first, Im more worried about color grading is all and I was told that it gets hot and shows noise in the shadows when it does but who knows you know? Also I'd give you more input given I have those dumb calibrated displays but UA-cam does this weird 8 bit conversion of the footage that just kills the nuance in some colors so generally it looks good, a little less vibrant in color saturation in a very tasteful way that you can match by boosting Sat/Hue/Shadows just slightly
The outdoor footage is amazing. I have an 85" Mini LED monitor. Nice 3D pop. Love the colours (I've never liked Sony colours, Panasonic has always been better). You should try some wildlife on it just to compare.
Sold my A7s3, luckily before the fx30, got max back for it, then got an Fx30 with the 15mm 1.4 G... amazing. Then I have a my pocket 3 for everything else.
1:42 After using ZV-E10 for a while and thinking the grip is shit. I finally got it that the body is meant to be grip with thumb on top but the index finger, designed for pressing record button and never touching others (except the zoom rocker, kept touching it accidentally and can't even disable it if I wanted).
man, I wish I could casually just walk down the street with a camera like that. If I try doing that here in Rio, that thing would be gone in 5 minutes.
Lots of environmental sounds from the built-in mic. If all I wanted to do is video, then the ZV-E1 is fine. Video and stills, I would go with the a7-III any day.
Same thing when a6500 came out. It has overheating issues but until now some guys are still using a6500 no problem. 😁 Oh and i got mine brandnew on a deal for around $1,630 with kit lens. It's way more cheaper than my fx30 body only with top handle $2,450. I guess it's better to buy cameras with issues. 😂🤣 For zv-e1 i just hope they just made the hand grip same with a6600 since they use the same battery. But then again as you have said it. I wont be using it likr a normal point and shoot camera. 😂🤣
I personally couldn't be without my Sony a7Siii and its gorgeous viewfinder. I do too much macro videography and other types of shit that I would lose my mind without a viewfinder. This ZV-E1 is cool because it is SO small and powerful. As for the color science, I am on a BenQ color calibrated monitor, and I think you're right. It is bluer on the ZV-E1. Are manually white balancing or auto? I would assume manual? It seems like the greens are VERY close in both cameras to my eye. Sadly, the skin tone greens seem to be the same. I could be wrong, but I cannot see a difference. At the end of the day, I'm a photographing and videographing jabroni, what do I know?
Nice. Maybe i should scrap my fx3 but i love the fan. Also, i don’t think the mix-pre 3 II clips when you have it in 32 bit float. But maybe i am wrong. I use mine daily
Kasey here's a question. Imagine someone who uses a Fuji XT5 with 70-300, mainly wildlife photos and some slowmo videos. And he wants to switch to a full frame. What body would you recommend and what lens? (Biased to Fuji and Sony)
Not familiar with what “chip/processor” is in the zv? but the color science on the newer Sonys a7iv/sony a6700 & a1 are noticeably different and better.
The active stabe is impressive. Probably some of the best I've seen... rivalling Panny boy. And I preferred the look. At the end of the day, the A7S3 is for professional shooting ENVIRONMENTS. Things like dual slot recording, no overheating, viewfinder, more robust body etc. make it a no brainer. Does it suck that the ZVE1 has more tech and a few better features. Sure. But I would never bring that with me on a shoot as a main camera even though it's perfectly capable. As an A7S3 owner, it pains me to think you might sell yours, but the fact is, the ZVE1 might make way more sense for you NOW that you have the Nikon. Nice purchase! Looking fwd to see what you decide. My money is on you selling the A7S3 :(
Janroni checking in. The body is basically sony a6700 ? 6700 with the viltox 1.4 lenses is mico weight and size orgasm status. Apsc jabroni checking out.
I got the fx30 because people said this overheats. Will it over heat if its on and not recording? I thought about this as a perfect livestream camera. Also sony needs to make a EVF hot shoe for this and the fx30
I sold the a7SIII for the ZV-E1. Yeh it's not perfect but you can change it to suit your needs. I love it how it is. The stabe on the a7SIII is pretty shit and on the ZV-E1 it's the best on any camera ever. I want to buy a 2nd because it has everything I ever wanted or needed
I hope Amazon warehouse did a better job packing than the Fuji 150-600mm lens I got. I’m fortunate it didn’t break in shipping… not what you want to see spending the big money.
Amazon packing is the absolute worst. I refuse to purchase any gear from Amazon if there is anything that might be fragile including cameras and lenses.
They are both irrelevant if one's budget is not the issue. But at least the ZV-E1 is now $300 off. Any camera that does not have RAW Pre Capture in both Photos and Video is irrelevant. Ditto for not having Open Gate or Auto Capture.
@@cameraconspiracies I think that definitely applies to a specific class of UA-camr, but a strong case can be made for the FX3 even for them. Gawx is a UA-camr - he probably could use a ZV-E1 but it would become limiting in terms of rigging options and it's not getting shutter angle firmware. A lot of youtubers do streams too. But also it's future-proofing your needs against having to upgrade later and go through all the hassle of selling the ZV-E1 when it's time to move up. If your circumstances change slightly and you decide you need longer record times or you want to film in warm climates, then it's a whole pain in the ass to flip the camera, likely at a small loss. Better to have more headroom in terms of what the camera allows you to do imo.
@@ChrithBraown Not worth it. Much more expensive, way heavier and you lose all the fun modes. ZVE1 is perfect for most youtubers. If you're looking to rig something out with cages and v mount batteries, ZVE1 isn't for you.
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I will say that the left side is more orange and the Sony side is red and the realistic difference is immense the Sony looks a lot more realistic in the Red Spectrum. Im not color blind at all though... 1 in 3 males are.
Definitely doesn't affect it.
Can you not with the Angelic background music
I'm the jabroni who got a ZV-E1, sold it for a a7Siii (for EVF and dual slots), then sold it and went back to the ZV-EI, I do lots of hiking / outdoors video, I can echo a lot of what you're laying down here
1 - You get used to the smaller form factor ,and the lighter weight makes a difference when dragging it around.
2 - The ZV-E1 combined with a 16-35 f4 G is small and lets me get everything I need. Sometimes I go 20-70 f4 G.
3 - The ZV-E1 with the compact 24mm f2.8 is incredible, sucker fits in your front pocket.
4 - Used in a studio / long run situation it overheats. Open all the doors and battery cover and you get more time. I got a FX-30 for my studio shots and use the ZV-E1 out and about.
5 - When it's really sunny outside I miss the EVF but I can solve by cupping my hand over the LCD screen
6 - I miss the custom dial on the a7siii.
7 - Just swipe off the side UI so you don't accidentally hit it. I've accidentally turned the focus target to insect too many times and I look like a grasshopper.
8 - When I'm hiking 15 miles into the middle of nowhere it would be nice to know I had 2 slots / backup, but I use a Sony Tough SD card and so far no problems.
9 - The tracking/framing features don't come off smooth and just look like you're being followed by a security camera.
10 - I like the dynamic active stab for regular shots when my footing is tough, walking and talking, or when I'm just wiped out and need more steady love. I wish it did better for actual moving shots. It won't replace a gimbal. I use my ZV-E1 with a Pocket3 on hikes and I'm able to make footage look pretty decent.
& also a big fan amigo
Just watched your Wheeler Peak hike. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for the thoughts here on the ZV-E1. I also carry my camera while hiking in Pennsylvania. I've had an X-T3 for about four years or so and really like it. But, wondering about what I want to do next sometimes and good to hear from another hiker. Seems like a great little camera. I think I'd really miss the EVF though as I do more photography than video.
@@charliejg Thanks for checking out the channel. Yea for hiking I often start at sunrise and the ZV-E1 handles it like a champ. If the low light performance wasn't such a big deal I'd probably check outthe A7Cii which has the EVF and is great for stills.
@@Hikingguy Yeah, that low light performance is an issue for video. I've done a couple videos using a GoPro and my phone. I just really hate the editing process so I haven't stayed with shooting videos.
I"m a fan of your channel, awesome content!
I am literally deciding between go all out on zve1 or just get pocket osmo 3. biggest thing abt osmo for me is I think it's way too wide. vlogging looks a bit weird like a .6 lens on a phone
never stop crossing the streets in slow-mo
Can we please get this comment I'm replying to the top number of likes in this video comment section? Please.
Just take one second and like that comment. Kasey needs to always run across roads in slow motion. Always.
You can enable 1/48th shutter speed by going into the Image quality tab, scrolling down to (shutter/silent), and enabling (Anti-flicker Set). You will now be able to change the shutter speed in smaller increments.
The dynamic stabe as ridiculously good. Love the new colour science.
I can’t give up my viewfinder, and living in Texas, it might over heat. For vlogging, the Pocket 3 is the way to go. It’s just so much easier to carry around. It would be more of a sideways move for me, not an upgrade.
I've filmed concerts in 90 degree F weather,, direct sunlight, for 10-20 minutes a take,, and I've never had overheating before.. idk how much it helps,, but I bought the white one to hopefully deflect some light rays
@@toneohmif I didn’t already have an A7S3, I would probably buy one, and one of those fans that snaps on. It’s a whole lot cheaper, but I wouldn’t sell my A7S3 for one. It’s definitely a nice camera, but I rather keep my view finder.
I owned the a7siii since it was released and the a7iv since it was released. Sold them both for the zve1 and a7cii. I absolutely loved the a7siii but my I enjoy the zve1 so much more. I do also own the fx3 mainly because of the internal fan, never have to worry about overheating. The zve1 and a7cii will overheat even in my studio, fx3 is like a rock!! With the zve1 I love the dynamic stab, eye autofocus in clear image zoom and auto framing.
I've been waiting for this vid! Love your vids
One year anniversary for my ZV-E1 tomorrow. Love this little camera, such a workhorse!
Ive been a a7siii shooter for years. Now I own two ZV-E1s instead. The dynamic stabe is crazy! And it has superior AF, with the AI chip, its really noticable. Never had either of them overheat, not even a warning. I will not go back.
The colors are similar enough that it doesn't matter.
The only You tuber in my life that stays , others come and go , this Hobo stays😂 cmon man we need some fuji content!
You’re scaring me, I love my A7siii
COLOURS? Jesus Kasey, just do the white balance adjust, move it a bit to magenta and you fix it, LOL.
Its an old fix we did 10 years ago with the Sony A7s, amazing to me that no one even talks about it.
Finally you got it, have fun!
You're right the color didn't look different maybe a little bit better.
Seems to me it was more magenta on my 10bit OLED broadcast monitor, the Sony has a slight yellow hue, its not as bad as Kasey seems to think but a lot of uncalibrated monitors today have really warm temperatures on their white balance for some reasons.
@@SMGJohn thank you, because I surely was looking at the video on my phone and it looked alot clearer I may be a little brighter. I don't think no cell phones come calibrated Maybe I'm Wrong.
ZV-E1 makes a better image lol.. it's the AI domination
@@parishill630
Depends what cellphone you have, all iPhones have calibrated screens and they have a cinema mode in the settings which is the most accurate colourwise.
There is also Sony Xperia 1 series they all have 10bit displays which are broadcast calibrated.
Samsung S series flagships are also calibrated with their "neutral" colour mode but just keep in mind that displays can shift in colour over time, usually after one year you should be calibrating the monitor again.
ZVE1 great for Gimbal work and fashion. Viltrox 20mm + Clear Image Zoom makes work super easy.
I have started to run across the road reminiscent to You, Sir!
Feels great, even in real life speed :-)
No viewfinder is the only issue I have but I'll survive, other than that I love this camera. Affordable, All the features a fellow youtube Dbag could ever need. 🙌🏾
The ZVE1 dynamic steady shot has been more jittery than I expected. I found that cranking up the shutter speed helps. I must me doing something wrong.
All digital stabilization requires a shutter speed fast enough to eliminate motion blur. It's the same with every camera.
Lens can make a difference. What are you using? Some aftermarket lens don't provide ideal results. Even Sony lenses with/without OSS change the results obviously too.
G9ii or GH7 is the way to go
@@JetBen555 These Sony scrubs still don't get that electronic stabilization is useless when going for the 180 degree shutter angle look. Put a GoPro with ND filters on a vehicle with 180 degree shutter angle and the electronic stabilization is baked into the motion blur; it looks bad and is unsuable. Now, on a GoPro it's okay. They are small cameras and you can just avoid ND filters and use ReelSmart Motion Blur in post to mimic a semi realistic motion blur if you don't want to use a gimbal. For the cost of a GoPro, it's acceptable. For true handheld, stable and usable "cinematic" footage, you need good in body stabilization (unless going for a pure hand held look, in that case, no IBIS is fine). This is where Panasonic shines; there's no need for a gimbal. The OP scrub here doesn't know how EIS works and thinks the artifacts are a problem with their settings. No, you chose Sony. You will never have smooth, cinematic motion blur when handheld. Now you get to be like every other noob who shoots video in aperture priority. Sony has ruined videography. You need fast shutter speed to have EIS be effective (motion blur artifacts won't show). But a fast shutter speed is generally not cinematic unless you're recording action scenes (I'm generalizing). So the Sony scrubs are stuck with Sony's tiny E-mount which has no room for proper physical stabilization. They have to use EIS. Anyone who understands this knows that Sony is useless for true run and gun cinematic video making. You want that pleasing motion blur. Don't be like the scrubs with their choppy video footage.
@AprilClayton Either this is a troll post or true ignorance. Videographers should know that EIS does not allow for good motion blur (slower shutter speeds). These Sony scrubs still don't get that electronic stabilization is useless when going for the 180 degree shutter angle look. Put a GoPro with ND filters on a vehicle with 180 degree shutter angle and the electronic stabilization is baked into the motion blur; it looks bad and is unsuable. Now, on a GoPro it's okay. They are small cameras and you can just avoid ND filters and use ReelSmart Motion Blur in post to mimic a semi realistic motion blur if you don't want to use a gimbal. For the cost of a GoPro, it's acceptable. For true handheld, stable and usable "cinematic" footage, you need good in body stabilization (unless going for a pure hand held look, in that case, no IBIS is fine). This is where Panasonic shines; there's no need for a gimbal. The OP scrub here doesn't know how EIS works and thinks the artifacts are a problem with their settings. No, you chose Sony. You will never have smooth, cinematic motion blur when handheld. Now you get to be like every other noob who shoots video in aperture priority. Sony has ruined videography. You need fast shutter speed to have EIS be effective (motion blur artifacts won't show). But a fast shutter speed is generally not cinematic unless you're recording action scenes (I'm generalizing). So the Sony scrubs are stuck with Sony's tiny E-mount which has no room for proper physical stabilization. They have to use EIS. Anyone who understands this knows that Sony is useless for true run and gun cinematic video making. You want that pleasing motion blur. Don't be like the scrubs with their choppy video footage.
ZVE1 is the only camera I’ve ever bought and after 6 months to a year haven’t wanted to get something else.
I remember we got into a little back and forth about this camera in the comments before. I'm shocked that you're actually testing it. Still didn't watch the video but I'm glad you're at least testing it. My opinion is still that it's the most underrated and misunderstood camera sony has made in years.
The teletubby joke was class :D
When indoors barely noticed colour difference between the two cams but the ZV E1 did look a bit sharper .
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Colors: ZVE1 have less yellow in general (looking at the wall it appears to have a more natural color but still warm), blue light looks less cyan and more bluish, the greens in the trees looks ok, but I think would need more tests to see if it doesn't have the brownish greens of the a7sIII.
Pleasing look overal in vlogging. Still not Canon colors, but giving more Nikon/ black magic vibes.
Stabilization: active stabilization sucks; dynamic seems ok, but I sttil fell that the lens its not comunicating entirely with the camera. (maybe micro jitterings)
Auto framing: cool and strange, the focal length + lighting + angle, it felt like I was seeing you inside a giant box lol
like the colors, for me very realistic looking
ZV-E1 finally! Nice nice! It has the best Video out of the A7RV and S5II I have to say. Stabe cannot match Panaboy by far unfortunately. But the small Size together with 4K120 and HD240 is unmatched. Love it!
Took me a while to realize the camera wasn't on some included tracking mount but just using sensor crop. Very impressive. Auto framing off was a slight bit nauseating, but would be good at high frame rates.
Mine is a demo from shops after cashback approx. $1100 usd. With that price, nothings even marginally touching in the next 3 yrs. Absolutely luxury in terms of flexibility, tonnes of logs and color tones to play (used CSC to generate everything applied in body during the day, and at night switch to slog3 iso 12800 and CSC afterwards. ) rolling shutter free, loads of frame rate and bit rate options, buffer never filled up, tons of MI mic options including DJI to choose from, all build-in and post stabilization options. The lens varieties, no matter full frame or apsc, are out of the world. Copping options nothing comes close. All external monitors are compatible and all IOS/Android monitoring apps compatible. All gimbals no matter bug or small and the after market BT remotesand grips work, never had troubles fits in every carrying bag daily. What a complete solution
Came for the Squarespace sponsorship 😆
7:00 would you mind doing a video showing us how to set up these camera settings?
I have one coming :)
@@cameraconspiracies that’s great news! Thanks!!
Seems like a nice and compact package. IQ also seems great.
The EVF is still the best feature from your homies the fotographers 😊. It is priceless!
Love my ZV-E1. Just missing the EVF
try adding the vf -3-4 olympus to hot shoe
I'm not on a calibrated monitor but the ZVE1 appears to have less colors, as if its gone from 14bit raw to 12bit raw. It looks anemic in color like when I've had in the past a dslr with 12bit files and then stepping up to 14 bit raw files with a lot more color depth. The ZVE1 looks like its gone backwards like 12 bit raw image. The A7Siii has more color and saturation outdoors.
Yep. I have a calibrated screen and the ZV-E1 has what I refer to as "candy colours". They're blocks of primary colours with few nuaces within. For instance, the t-shirt is just one shade of red, the sky is one shade of blue and the trees are one shade of green. It's not a good look.
I would go with in zve1 if primarily shooting indoors. What a steal of a deal.
Subject tracking is the new must-have.
How is it rotating to do that?
I need, and use, and like, my EVF Viewfinder. If it aint got no EVF, I aint buying it. 🤔
If you change AF to MF in the quick menu it will default to it until this is changed in that very menu.
My biggest gripe with the A7S-III right now is how many pixels have been "dying". I know it happens to all sensors but on the A7S3 when it happens, it's really noticable. I've had to run pixel mapping 5 times or so to actually remedy it. Kind of scares me how rapidly it seems to be accumulating errors.
It's mainly an indoor vlog camera; with cinema features. Between the thermals, the single SD card, no EVF, etc. it's not hard to see the limitations for video production. Even if someone made a 20mm pancake lens to make the ZV-E1 a pocket camera that was "so light" that it's Fun To Use, it just makes more sense to vlog with a DJI Pocket 3, unless one obsesses over "cinematic blurry backgrounds" for all those film-like video myself as I'm walking and talking to the camera shots, just like they do in the movies.
This is probably the reason why they can be picked up well below original price despite being relatively new (nothing has replaced it). There just isn't a massive market for them, but it does fill a perfect little niche that Sony was a Good Brah for covering, with a full feature set that wasn't stripped down. "Professional Vlogger's Camera?"
I kind of want one, and hope there's an upcoming "Casey shits all over the ZV-E1 and sticks to the a7Siii" video to talk me out of it.
How many v90 sd cards have failed on you?
such bullshit. you dont need EVF when you have a monitor. you dont need x2 sd cards for all productions. and the thermal issue can be rectified if you so fit. its limitations are because its cheaper.
go look at every industry everything gets stripped down and the more you pay the more you get. its not an indoor vlog camera at all. its Netflix quality in a small form factor.
Zve1 is awesome, I have one, but since I got the osmo pocket 3 I rarely use it, and it’s a shame because I don’t really even like the pocket 3 that much. It’s fragile and annoying and I never seem to get the gimbal in the right mode. But it is tiny and have a great image quality, and for vlogging it’s just impossible to beat. Who would pick the zve1 over the pocket 3 to go outside with?
Zve1 has been on sale lately too, seems like the best deal until Sony updates their a7s3
14:14- this is first time I was afraid that we're gonna loose you. Thanks god we are safe.
I feel like the ZV-E1 is actually less green-yellow-ish. The difference is not that big, but if you look for it, you'll find it.
When you first had the color side by side I only noticed how bright canary red your shirt was in the new sony compared to the a7s3. I saw no wrinkles or 3d anything, just a bright field of color. Then you mentioned yellower skin so I looked and I guess I could see how that was missing in the new camera. But I wasn’t thrilled with the colors. Outside was just “okay” - would need to see some more split screen comparisons. That lens was good for outside for sure, in terms of focus and separation without overtonnehing. Small and capable is fun!
Smallrig cage makes it beefier but “fixes” grip and stabby strap anchor point😅
I kinda like the on-camera mic sound, with the background noise, lol
Can't believe you got rid of 200-600 before testing animal eye AF on ZV-E1 🤦♂
Nooooooooo 😂
looks killer bro, like the colours perfect outside abit better inside even,,, vf3 Olympus viewfinder in hot shoe slot for when you want to use the Sony macro lens, when you want to use that only.
Thanks for this video. I'm also considering to buy the ZV-E1. Please make more footage with different lenses especially which lens would be in your eyes the best lens for portrait and landscape photos on a tripod. And also your opinion about the S-Cinetone look.
You need to do B and H affiliate as well. I always buy there cause they offer no sales tax if you use their credit card in the USA
Hey Kasey, thanks for the test ! Have a question about the ZV-E1 : are the dynamic and active stab mode available in 4K120 ? And also, do you have any idea of what is the crop factor when in 4K120 & maximum stab activated ? Wondering because if the crop is more or less equivalent to APSC size then it might be worth using APSC lens for the compactness and weight !
No.
I did a lot of stabe testing with my ZV-E1 and found it not good enough. Active stabe is too jittery. Dynamic active introduces jumping even with slight panning. I can see the same in your footage and was wondering if your A7SIII footage is more stable when comparing active stabe on both cameras.
Sony design team - we have a straight ruler & some hard play dough. Let's build a camera. Yes, people will hold it with their hands, but they need to toughen up
Was expecting bigger difference in colours, because when I switched from a6600 to a6700 difference was easily noticable, especially greens, on a6600 greens were like a one ugly colour soup.
I think A7S III already had a new colour science, then ZVE1 just tweaked it further.
ZV-E1 Users push here ❤
wow, the street footages looks awesome.
The features for ZV-E1 seem great, but gotta say, you jumped to A7sIII in log, and it just looked better.
Not in color, it was the sharpness/contrast/depth.
Runs to check B&H. OK A7S III has 4-channel sound. Also 32-bit sound I believe. Both probably have messed up stills focus now with the 3.1 update.
I ride the Sony Horse since ages, low budget but...
did your eyes ever have touched the Samsung nx Mini camera?
Been waiting for this, I been curious about the ZV-E1 but Ill rent it first, Im more worried about color grading is all and I was told that it gets hot and shows noise in the shadows when it does but who knows you know?
Also I'd give you more input given I have those dumb calibrated displays but UA-cam does this weird 8 bit conversion of the footage that just kills the nuance in some colors so generally it looks good, a little less vibrant in color saturation in a very tasteful way that you can match by boosting Sat/Hue/Shadows just slightly
The outdoor footage is amazing. I have an 85" Mini LED monitor. Nice 3D pop. Love the colours (I've never liked Sony colours, Panasonic has always been better). You should try some wildlife on it just to compare.
oh snap you gots it! yewww
Sold my A7s3, luckily before the fx30, got max back for it, then got an Fx30 with the 15mm 1.4 G... amazing. Then I have a my pocket 3 for everything else.
1:42 After using ZV-E10 for a while and thinking the grip is shit. I finally got it that the body is meant to be grip with thumb on top but the index finger, designed for pressing record button and never touching others (except the zoom rocker, kept touching it accidentally and can't even disable it if I wanted).
man, I wish I could casually just walk down the street with a camera like that. If I try doing that here in Rio, that thing would be gone in 5 minutes.
Lots of environmental sounds from the built-in mic. If all I wanted to do is video, then the ZV-E1 is fine. Video and stills, I would go with the a7-III any day.
zve1 Looks gooooooood!
covered ..... ehhhhh
my new ringtone
Same thing when a6500 came out. It has overheating issues but until now some guys are still using a6500 no problem. 😁 Oh and i got mine brandnew on a deal for around $1,630 with kit lens. It's way more cheaper than my fx30 body only with top handle $2,450. I guess it's better to buy cameras with issues. 😂🤣 For zv-e1 i just hope they just made the hand grip same with a6600 since they use the same battery. But then again as you have said it. I wont be using it likr a normal point and shoot camera. 😂🤣
I personally couldn't be without my Sony a7Siii and its gorgeous viewfinder. I do too much macro videography and other types of shit that I would lose my mind without a viewfinder. This ZV-E1 is cool because it is SO small and powerful. As for the color science, I am on a BenQ color calibrated monitor, and I think you're right. It is bluer on the ZV-E1. Are manually white balancing or auto? I would assume manual? It seems like the greens are VERY close in both cameras to my eye. Sadly, the skin tone greens seem to be the same. I could be wrong, but I cannot see a difference. At the end of the day, I'm a photographing and videographing jabroni, what do I know?
Nice. Maybe i should scrap my fx3 but i love the fan. Also, i don’t think the mix-pre 3 II clips when you have it in 32 bit float. But maybe i am wrong. I use mine daily
1:08 😂 💀 it's so true too
Kasey here's a question. Imagine someone who uses a Fuji XT5 with 70-300, mainly wildlife photos and some slowmo videos. And he wants to switch to a full frame. What body would you recommend and what lens? (Biased to Fuji and Sony)
Not familiar with what “chip/processor” is in the zv? but the color science on the newer Sonys a7iv/sony a6700 & a1 are noticeably different and better.
The active stabe is impressive. Probably some of the best I've seen... rivalling Panny boy. And I preferred the look. At the end of the day, the A7S3 is for professional shooting ENVIRONMENTS. Things like dual slot recording, no overheating, viewfinder, more robust body etc. make it a no brainer. Does it suck that the ZVE1 has more tech and a few better features. Sure. But I would never bring that with me on a shoot as a main camera even though it's perfectly capable. As an A7S3 owner, it pains me to think you might sell yours, but the fact is, the ZVE1 might make way more sense for you NOW that you have the Nikon. Nice purchase! Looking fwd to see what you decide. My money is on you selling the A7S3 :(
Janroni checking in. The body is basically sony a6700 ? 6700 with the viltox 1.4 lenses is mico weight and size orgasm status. Apsc jabroni checking out.
When you run your arm muscles flop around more than my ball sac I think you need to eat some real food lol
12:15 Rule of maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnyyy! 🎶
I got the fx30 because people said this overheats. Will it over heat if its on and not recording? I thought about this as a perfect livestream camera. Also sony needs to make a EVF hot shoe for this and the fx30
Lots of videos warning about the Sony 3.02 firmware
I liked this video only because you added the blue light lmfao…
I sold the a7SIII for the ZV-E1. Yeh it's not perfect but you can change it to suit your needs. I love it how it is. The stabe on the a7SIII is pretty shit and on the ZV-E1 it's the best on any camera ever. I want to buy a 2nd because it has everything I ever wanted or needed
I will never sell my A7s3 to be honest. I just love it.
@3:22 @5100 has sd on that side. Its better when its away from the battery.
i love you man you are amazing
I put a small rig cage on it and it’s kind of great…
You can see zve1 has more noise in the shadow. The red color looks a bit too much.
I'm starting to fear your camera flips more than your diet flips. The wrong turns are piling up.
I hope Amazon warehouse did a better job packing than the Fuji 150-600mm lens I got. I’m fortunate it didn’t break in shipping… not what you want to see spending the big money.
Amazon packing is the absolute worst. I refuse to purchase any gear from Amazon if there is anything that might be fragile including cameras and lenses.
They are both irrelevant if one's budget is not the issue. But at least the ZV-E1 is now $300 off. Any camera that does not have RAW Pre Capture in both Photos and Video is irrelevant. Ditto for not having Open Gate or Auto Capture.
The colour science is very different. Instead of green it is now magenta.
Quantum of color science.
Holy banding
Your moms E1 sized bras, I bought her one, once
How the audio for your voice if you try and edit and isolate it more ?
You asked why someone would choose an FX3 over a ZV-E1 ... You cannot be serious on that one.
For a youtuber yes, it would be stupid overkill to go with the FX3.
@@cameraconspiracies I think that definitely applies to a specific class of UA-camr, but a strong case can be made for the FX3 even for them.
Gawx is a UA-camr - he probably could use a ZV-E1 but it would become limiting in terms of rigging options and it's not getting shutter angle firmware. A lot of youtubers do streams too.
But also it's future-proofing your needs against having to upgrade later and go through all the hassle of selling the ZV-E1 when it's time to move up. If your circumstances change slightly and you decide you need longer record times or you want to film in warm climates, then it's a whole pain in the ass to flip the camera, likely at a small loss. Better to have more headroom in terms of what the camera allows you to do imo.
@@ChrithBraown Not worth it. Much more expensive, way heavier and you lose all the fun modes. ZVE1 is perfect for most youtubers. If you're looking to rig something out with cages and v mount batteries, ZVE1 isn't for you.
Why did Kasey cross the road?
7:50 😂 So true, they gatekeep far better tho