Farrah Ponnwitz Honestly I’ve been a fan for a long time and still for almost every single one of the clips I used I had to look up to double check that it was in fact Joe, even though I knew 100% that it was, because my brain was like “no that can’t be the same person”
Because a lot of the fandom is now made up by people who entered from TGWDLM (which don't get me wrong, is a fantastic show) so they don't know the OG people as well as others
Starkid's other shows are excellent, but Twisted (especially musically speaking) is the closest they've ever come to actually sounding like a Broadway show. That and the fact that all the singing is basically perfect since Dylan is in the lead makes it hard to find anything bad about it.
Twisted is in my top 2, but you have to remember that show had incredibly rich source material. It was parodying a Disney musical, and Disney musicals are BY FAR the most widely watched and beloved musicals in the world, and part of everyone’s childhood. With TGWDLM, Firebringer, and Black Friday Starkid has advanced beyond parodies to original works (or genre parodies) so of course they are not going to have as universal appeal
The real underrated starkid is joe walker(not corey) despite performing spectacular in 9 shows (all significant roles except ducker), he's still under appreciated by new fans
I'm sorry? How dare you! Ducker is the most significant role there has ever been. I will not have any of this blasphemy in my house. 🎶 He is Lord 🎶 👏 🎶 Duck is Lord 🎶 👏 🎶 He is Lord, Lord, Lord 🎶 👏 🎶 Duck is Lord 🎶
Yeah! Like people say Corey is underrated but he has become so popular recently. He’s also had way bigger roles in the last musicals. He isn’t underrated anymore. Joe walker is now kinda viewed like this really awesome weird former dude. I guess we have to accept that the OG’s who aren’t in the musicals anymore won’t be as popular as they once were or never really got enough credit for. We’ve got to accept that. Joe walker will always be a legend. But people like Brian r and AJ people like them are underrated. That’s I guess why my all time favorites will always be Lauren, Joey, Jaime, Dylan... because I’ve seen them grow so much. Because they are still very active within starkid they are still very popular. So now the main new people are Jon and Robert, Mariah and such, so what, they are awesome. And I just hope everyone gets to do what they want znd like, whether that’s within Starkid, or moving on to something better for them, they will always be in our hearts
i’ve never seen joe as underrated bc i’ve been around when he was in larger roles, but now i can definitely see how newer fans wouldn’t give him as much attention.
Im a new fan and I genuinely think joe is a better actor than dylan. Something about the delivery probably. Joe doesnt get many parts to be taken seriously but the acting shows
Starship was the show that marked a new era for Starkid. They had a much bigger budget, actual microphones, Amazing songs, costumes, and a whole cast of puppets!
I think the reason Black Friday is high on a lot of lists is because it’s freshest on a lot of people’s minds. I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m just saying most people remember it more.
Yeah this is honestly the first one that I was kinda disappointed with, compared to the comedy of the past ones. Only thing I did really love were a few of the songs, they really felt a bit more great
I like Black Friday. It was really well done. But I agree. It’s so new and the hype is still up. It’s also really difficult to compare it to other shows because it is so different and so new.
Denise deserves more recognition! She might not be the best singer, but I’m so happy she was voted second for dancing with the women. I love her so much!
She was sick on her solo and does that voice for her characters :( She actually has some sorta opera/falsetto voice from what I've heard her singing? Anyway, I love her she's adorable!!
I'm so sorry but I definitely think Jaime is the best female starkid singer. It's so difficult to chose though since their voices are all so different and amazing.
I’d vote for Jaime just because she’s been in more shows and has been great in all of them, while we’ve only see Mariah in one show. Jaime’s played so many different characters in so many shows and made them each feel unique, while Mariah was only able to play a few minor ones in one show and they weren’t really differentiable (not her fault). It would’ve been great to see Mariah in black friday to show the talent she’s showing now in Mean Girls
Jaime has a huge range and not alone, her join us and die belt, and lost without you are some of my favorite starkid vocal moments but Mariah is also great and has incredible control. Also I thrive off of some of the covers on her channel. They're hard to compare...
I DEF agree with you that Firebringer had some of the best music! Like of course there were some no-hitters in the track IMO but there were also some really, really great ones too! Like "Jemilla's Lament," "Paint Me" (LOVED THIS), "Together," "Chorn" (vocals literally slayed us all), "Into The Night," and honestly much more- those were just some that come to mind.
it also makes me really happy to see Jon voted in top 5 lists because he's only been in two shows but he's already my favorite, partly because he's such a starkid stan himself
Yeah I know, the firebringer soundtracks are often really short, but so amazing! The other ones are amazing as hell too, but firebringer should really apear in that category. Also snarl and the duck were super design 🦆🙈
I'm so conflicted for best actor... I love them all and Joey is so versatile, but I will NEVER ever forget Jeff's role as Aladdin. It was so iconic and so well played
I love this video so much!! But it makes me sad that so many fans don't seem to have watched the older musicals or remember the cast members from previous older shows. Their new shows are amazing don't get me wrong, but they have so many classics people seem to have forgotten.
I've been slowly making my way back, but I think it doesn't help that the older shows had worse film and audio quality and that there were a lot of more people who've only been in a couple shows
@@sydneehorne3551 I do understand that, when i first went back and watched some of the first shows that did put me off originally. But i'm happy that people are still giving them a try!
I honestly didn't expect TTO to win best comedy tbh. It was overall a good, comedic show- with some really strong jokes (Cornwallis appearing, Craphole putting the gun in his mouth, the Dikrats in general) but sometimes the jokes fell a bit flat or it came off as too obvious or trying to hard to be funny IMO.
TC Fr! Like I would critique it as a good show with some very strong parts (such as showing the dynamic between mother and daughter for example) but then I feel like it’s too crackhead at *a lot* of parts. It’s like, watching the video of the whole musical, you can tell when a lot of jokes are intended to get laughs from the audience but sometimes no one laughs or if they do, it’s not really an uproar. I think they’re well aware people love Starkid for their own special crackhead energy, and tried to excessively capitalize on that for the show, but it came off as trying too hard to be that. Which is why other musicals like TGWDLM had much better comedy to me because the jokes sort of came naturally and weren’t too in your face with their obviousness.
I feel like the stupid humor is what makes it so great though. You have the moments like when craphole puts the gun in his mouth but its just so ironic with the fart jokes and the amount it breaks the 3rd wall makes it amazing and iconic
First the stupid humor is of course funny no doubt but for me personally it reaches a point where the jokes get too crackhead or trying to hard imo so that it’s not really naturally funny anymore
@@SnowWhitesBite Eh, it's not nostalgia for me because I watches Twisted for the first time AFTER I watched TGWDLM. Twisted is definitely the best written show in all of Starkid. I think TGWDLM is also great, and Black Friday is meh.
@@SnowWhitesBite nah i only joined the fandom in 2020 and i think twisted is god tier even tho it's 10th on my own list. of course ive been familiar with starkid for years before as a big harry potter fan but i dont have any bias towards aladdin as i havent even seen it in full. twisted just feels the most like a broadway show and the songs are really well written
my list like anyone is interested lmao: - best music: firebringer - best comedy: trail to oregon - best design: black friday - best writing: twisted - best overall: between twisted and tgwdlm - best actor: joey - best male singer: dylan - best comedic actor: joe w - best male dancer: james - best actress: between lauren l and jaime and also angela - best female singer: kim - best comedic actress: between denise and lauren l - best female dancer: again between denise and lauren l - favourite starkid: between lauren l and jon
@@LyleTheWaterAquaticGuy Oh yeah that's totally high. I've just seen a lot comments about Jeff on StarKids videos, more so than Joey (my favorite haha), so it was interesting to see! Really well done video by the way!! Great editing and it was so cool to see the results
i was so shocked that joey was top 2 for favorite starkid. i mean, yeah, i voted him. but i was so sure #1 would be lauren and #2 would be robert. i still can't believe it.
I can totally see why he's 2nd tho, and I think it's deserved! Throughout all of his time in Starkid, he's played so, so many memorable and fan-favorite roles, even if they're not always the leads! The same could be said for Robert, but Joey is just such a representative icon for what Starkid is and I think comes to mind for a lot of fans more frequently than Robert would.
I took this survey, and honestly I just don’t really consider them a StarKid until they’ve been in at least 2 shows, you know? I totally respect the people who are only in one show! It just isn’t the same for me.
i get u but for some i feel different. like, technically curt and mariah wouldn't be starkids by that logic but i feel like they've integrated really well to me
KichiKacey Archive I would definitely agree. I think on the general basis not being a starkid until 2 shows works but there should be certain exceptions like Mariah and curt because of how well they integrated
Raini Velazphez it’s also worth mentioning that Curt has also been in Tin Can Bro’s productions before, which has a lot of the same actors, so he’s spent a lot of time with a bunch of Starkids even before BF
I feel Firebringer was one of the best, but it had some innovative features for a Starkid show that made it appeal to a narrower audience. Which is perfectly ok.
@@snowoiive I suspect a major reason it has a smaller audience is that it lacks a strong leading man/het ship, instead the strong ships were lesbian. Considering the Starkid audience is about 90% females between 14-22 and not everyone is gay, for some people it was missing a factor that normally holds their interest in a musical, so they regarded it as "boring".
Honestly, as much as I love all the Starkids (which is A LOT), Jim stole my heart since AVPM with “Maybe a single drop”. I love xir!! And I think xe deserves more recognition, xe’s comedic timing is fantastic. But, yeah, I love them all, just a little Jim biased lol
firebringer deserved to be in the top three at least for design (snarl, the costumes, the fire, the one scene with the silhouettes through the backdrop)
Tbh some of this r very accurate, but tho i really really love BF an TGWDLM, i think there's a lot of recency bias rn, which is okay, cause the new stuff MUST be appreciated (and you can see how much they've grown since the beginning), but sometimes we might forget how brilliant the older stuff was too
It also goes the opposite way sometimes with people who refuse to appreciate the new shows saying things like "they aren't as good as they used to be", but we should understand that it is possible to enjoy the new ones and still love the old ones
I mean, Lauren has also done some choreography for starkid, I know she did some for tgwdlm, and saf over on the tin can bros and probably some more stuff.
Ok ok my opinions that no one asked for: Brolden is one of the best singers and I can't believe everyone's sleeping on him. Britney Coleman and Tyler Brunsman should have had better representation. Based on these rankings, I doubt everyone who took the survey has seen all the shows. I think this fandom has trouble ranking objectively. People seem to have a favourite and put them overly high in certain categories just because they like them (to each their own obviously but you get my point.)
AJ, Brian R. and Joe W. are my fave starkids so it kinda sucks to not see more of them on these lists, but the more recent musicals might also be more fresh on people’s mind so I get it I guess I have to say I’m really happy to see Rachael in the best actress category, she’s SO GOOOOOD
2:30 there’s something so appealing about what might be the most dramatic number in twisted being played over the choreography of no-one remembers achmed
I thing it bears reminding that everyone in StarKid is great, all of the StarKid shows are a wonderful gift that they never had to give us, and that everyone is entitled to their own preferences. I’ve a lot of distaste for some of the newer shows and the people who came into this fandom because of it lately. I’ve seen “X is over/under rated” left and right. The last thing I wanna see is this relatively non toxic fandom become divided. So I remind you guys of B@tman’s “masks! Capes! Superheroes are cool!” speech, because you know what? StarKid is cool! Nick Lang, Joe Walker, Kim Whalen, Lauren Lopez, Joey Richter, they’re all amazing! We shouldn’t base whether we like someone or whether we like a show or not on what’s popular at the moment, all love for StarKid is good love for StarKid! Whether you like Black Friday, Me & My Dick, Ani, AVPS or Twisted the most, the important thing is we all love these amazing people who had the guts and good will to put ENTIRE shows they wrote online for us to enjoy!
Okayyyyy but for best male actor wHY isn’t Joe even ON the list??? Like look at Voldy, Dick, Umbridge, Up, Batman, Achmed, Tarkin, Ducker and Deadliest Man Alive, all completely different and yet all played by the same actor. In this essay I will- In case you haven’t noticed, Joe is my favourite StarKid.
As the first time I’ve seen a star kid performance is the Harry Potter ones, I’m disappointed we didn’t see any Malfoy action in this ranking but, I’m happy lauren got first.
I love the design of TGWDLM because it portrayed the whole town with the simplest bit of set and clever lighting, particularly when one section is lit up as Paul's TV
My personal list: Shows Best music: 1. Twisted 2. Firebringer 3. Starship Best comedy: 1. AVPM 2. HMB 3. Ani Best design: 1. Starship (No contest) 2. HMB 3. MAMD Best writing/story: 1. AVPM (it's crazy, but gotta love it) 2. HMB 3. Starship Best overall: 1. HMB 2. AVPM 3. Twisted Men Best actor: 1. Joey 2. Chris 3. Joe Walker Best singer: Tied between Dylan, Brian R and A.J Holmes (Honestly can't decide). Props to Joey for his improvement though. Best comedic actor: 1. Joe W 2. Brian H 3. Jeff Best dancer: I've never really paid much attention to this before to be honest. I think Robert is top, but other than that I don't know. Women (Because there's fewer female main starkids I'm just going to do my favourite for these) Best actress: Rachael Best singer: Jaime Best comedic actress: Lauren Best dancer: Again, not sure - I know Denise runs a dancing studio etc, but I don't remember her dancing from the shows enough to judge. The people Favourite Starkid: 1. Joe Walker 2. A.J. Holmes (mainly for writing) 3. Joey 4. Lauren 4. Brian H
honestly kendall even though she’s young deserves a lot more recognition in the community, we know her singing is great but she handled a different and emotional role extremely well
i think what this proves is that we need more musicals with robert in leading roles. also may i just say answering these questions was nearly impossible. i love these casts all so much and they’re all so incredibly talented. when came to picking my favorites i literally had to stop and think for five minutes about each one.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the video but as someone who does mics for the shows at my hs, I really hate how their mics are placed but I do like that they're at least moderately consistent and don't draw attention to themselves. Okay, about the video: I agree with most of the rankings and it wasn't surprising that Joey, Dylan and Lauren ranked so high in so many categories. I love the clips you used for all of the categories and how they were all kind of from different shows.
Firebringer is in my top 3. I think one reason for it’s unpopularity is it’s innovative story: It didn’t have a strong leading man/het ship. Considering 90% of the Starkid audience is females between 14-22 and we’re not all gay, a segment of the audience may have felt Firebringer lacked something they want in a musical. But that’s completely ok
Black Friday was James stage debut, wasn't it? I know he is the choreographer, but it shows what an impression he made that he was so high with one show.
Two seconds in and you chose one of my (underrated) favorite moments. And, God, I wish Jaime were number one. She is by far my favorite actress. Her range is amazing.
lauren lopez is probably my favorite starkid and i love her acting but i want to see her in a more vulnerable role if that makes sense? like i love emma perkins with my entire heart and zazzalil deserves everything but pls let someone else be a villain
I'm glad TTO made it into top 5 for story and overall!!! People know it's funny but it's severely underrated in everything else. Its one of my ABSOLUTE favorites.
I´m so happy that Clark got some votes on best singer! I'm kind of sad that the OGs aren't mentioned as much... There's so much talent from over all the years!
starkid fans acting like joe walker isn’t one of the best actors in starkid but go off i guess
Ikr half his characters I was shocked to find out was played by the same person
Farrah Ponnwitz Honestly I’ve been a fan for a long time and still for almost every single one of the clips I used I had to look up to double check that it was in fact Joe, even though I knew 100% that it was, because my brain was like “no that can’t be the same person”
i voted for him
Because a lot of the fandom is now made up by people who entered from TGWDLM (which don't get me wrong, is a fantastic show) so they don't know the OG people as well as others
Joe, Rachael, Lauren, Joey, and Jaime are my favorite actors, they’re all fantastic and have such a wide range
I love how we’ve barely had Jon for two shows and we’ve already adopted him in the Top 5 favourites.
It's what he deserves
he deserves the world and i will protect him with my own LIFE
He's just so cuteeeeeeee
Yes, he is the best in my heart
I also love than in his first musical he got the lead roll
As a hardcore Twisted stan, the fact that Twisted is in the top three of all the shows categories makes me very happy.
Starkid's other shows are excellent, but Twisted (especially musically speaking) is the closest they've ever come to actually sounding like a Broadway show. That and the fact that all the singing is basically perfect since Dylan is in the lead makes it hard to find anything bad about it.
Right? It's legitimately the best in all categories.
It literally checks all of the boxes!
One of the best shows I’ve ever seen, period. And I’ve seen a lot of shows
Twisted is in my top 2, but you have to remember that show had incredibly rich source material. It was parodying a Disney musical, and Disney musicals are BY FAR the most widely watched and beloved musicals in the world, and part of everyone’s childhood. With TGWDLM, Firebringer, and Black Friday Starkid has advanced beyond parodies to original works (or genre parodies) so of course they are not going to have as universal appeal
This is the proof Joe Walker is very underrated.
I voted for him! Don't worry XD
@@slasherchild5871 glad I'm not the only one, then.
@@josephine8406 I pretty much spammed him and Joey for most of the appropriate answers. Because I love them both so much.
@@sanityisrelative I did that as well.
I think the fact that he wasn’t in TGWDLM or BF and had a pretty small part in Firebringer pushed him to the back of people’s minds
I'm a bit disappointed you didn't show Jaime's "TO DIEEEE" riff for the best singer category but whatever
I had the exact same thought
Well basically every time she opens her mouth it's beautiful
facts
"Category: Best Actor" and Joe Walker isn't there.
I mean What The hEll is Happening in tHe WoRld??! This all your fault jAFAR
CapitanRogers thanks hermione
This is all your fault Hermione
No one remembers Achmed
Thanks herman
THANKS HERMIN
Well looks like Lauren got her wish. She is adored.
**gasp**
Lauren has always been adored
And if you do not adore her she will *end. you.*
@@seanmcmurphy4744 and she'll *yell* too
@@applepatronum4934 LOL the anticlimax of that line killed me
"Twisted is the worst smell you've ever heard"
Dylan Saunders
The real underrated starkid is joe walker(not corey) despite performing spectacular in 9 shows (all significant roles except ducker), he's still under appreciated by new fans
I'm sorry? How dare you! Ducker is the most significant role there has ever been. I will not have any of this blasphemy in my house.
🎶 He is Lord 🎶
👏
🎶 Duck is Lord 🎶
👏
🎶 He is Lord, Lord, Lord 🎶
👏
🎶 Duck is Lord 🎶
@@sanityisrelative I'm sorry I deserve to be swallowed by shadows for saying that
Yeah! Like people say Corey is underrated but he has become so popular recently. He’s also had way bigger roles in the last musicals. He isn’t underrated anymore. Joe walker is now kinda viewed like this really awesome weird former dude. I guess we have to accept that the OG’s who aren’t in the musicals anymore won’t be as popular as they once were or never really got enough credit for. We’ve got to accept that. Joe walker will always be a legend. But people like Brian r and AJ people like them are underrated. That’s I guess why my all time favorites will always be Lauren, Joey, Jaime, Dylan... because I’ve seen them grow so much. Because they are still very active within starkid they are still very popular. So now the main new people are Jon and Robert, Mariah and such, so what, they are awesome. And I just hope everyone gets to do what they want znd like, whether that’s within Starkid, or moving on to something better for them, they will always be in our hearts
i’ve never seen joe as underrated bc i’ve been around when he was in larger roles, but now i can definitely see how newer fans wouldn’t give him as much attention.
Im a new fan and I genuinely think joe is a better actor than dylan. Something about the delivery probably. Joe doesnt get many parts to be taken seriously but the acting shows
This poll is Brian and Meredith erasure.
dayzee and joe walker 😔
dayzee preach
And also kinda Jeff, like this man is an INCREDIBLE actor - like him as Sweet Tooth and Aladdin??? (Not to mention the legendary Man in a Hurry)
Excuse me why in the HELL is Nick Lang NOT in comedic actors
NICK WAS FUCKING ROBBED
I fell asleep because that was so boring
@Katelyn Loger thats such a weird thing to say that came out of nowhere
and I’m an alcoholic
Nick Gage, Nick Lang and Brolden are the funniest StarKids, no I do not take criticism
Why would you need to take criticism when you’re just speaking the truth?
Idk man, I think you forgot AJ in this list
*big yes*
Nick Lang is fucking hilarious.
Yeah I can’t believe Nick Lang wasn’t on the best comedy’s list
I cannot thank you enough for including Brian R in the best singer category, he’s super underrated and I think he has a fantastic voice.
He’s my favourite singer I think ever. His voice is the definition of god tier.
Lyle The Water Aquatic Guy Brian R has always been my favourite, tbh, I’m so glad TCB exists
im sorry, how on earth did starship not win best design??
Recency bias
That’s what I’m saying, Black Friday has a good set but omg
Ikr
BF’s budget really shows lol
Starship was the show that marked a new era for Starkid. They had a much bigger budget, actual microphones, Amazing songs, costumes, and a whole cast of puppets!
I think the reason Black Friday is high on a lot of lists is because it’s freshest on a lot of people’s minds. I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m just saying most people remember it more.
the only one i think it deserved was design. otherwise...yeah it doesn’t hold a candle to the other shows.
Yeah this is honestly the first one that I was kinda disappointed with, compared to the comedy of the past ones. Only thing I did really love were a few of the songs, they really felt a bit more great
Is it bad? No. Is it one of my least favorites? Absolutely.
I like Black Friday. It was really well done. But I agree. It’s so new and the hype is still up. It’s also really difficult to compare it to other shows because it is so different and so new.
Tgwdlm and bf aren't bad. But I still like the "older" shows more.
Denise deserves more recognition! She might not be the best singer, but I’m so happy she was voted second for dancing with the women. I love her so much!
She was sick on her solo and does that voice for her characters :( She actually has some sorta opera/falsetto voice from what I've heard her singing? Anyway, I love her she's adorable!!
I totally voted for her for best comedic actress partially because of her Flawless monologue in Starship
@@jortsofficial173 same! She's so funny, I love her
YES. DENISE APPRECIATION PLEASE.
SOPHIALUZ TELLUS YESSS
The fact that AJ was nowhere on this list is shocking
Newer show bias.
@@sydneehorne3551 Obviously
I mean luckily twisted was voted best music and he wrote it but I still agree that he’s very underrated and deserved better lol
@@kayliek4057 he wrote twisted? icon
kate b yeah and Kaley McMahon wrote the lyrics :)
I'm so sorry but I definitely think Jaime is the best female starkid singer. It's so difficult to chose though since their voices are all so different and amazing.
Preach! I feel like Jaime should've won.
I’d vote for Jaime just because she’s been in more shows and has been great in all of them, while we’ve only see Mariah in one show. Jaime’s played so many different characters in so many shows and made them each feel unique, while Mariah was only able to play a few minor ones in one show and they weren’t really differentiable (not her fault). It would’ve been great to see Mariah in black friday to show the talent she’s showing now in Mean Girls
Jaime has such a great vocal range and can sing in different voices like Joey!
@@sarahkinsey5434 Yeah. The manipulation they both have over their voices is amazing lol x
Jaime has a huge range and not alone, her join us and die belt, and lost without you are some of my favorite starkid vocal moments but Mariah is also great and has incredible control. Also I thrive off of some of the covers on her channel. They're hard to compare...
I DEF agree with you that Firebringer had some of the best music! Like of course there were some no-hitters in the track IMO but there were also some really, really great ones too! Like "Jemilla's Lament," "Paint Me" (LOVED THIS), "Together," "Chorn" (vocals literally slayed us all), "Into The Night," and honestly much more- those were just some that come to mind.
the night belongs to Snarl was a broadway worthy song in my opinion
distinguished disaster YES I have always thought it was underrated! I also really like climate change! (The song, not that our world is on fire...)
My mind went to joe as unbridge when I saw him on the best dancers list
it also makes me really happy to see Jon voted in top 5 lists because he's only been in two shows but he's already my favorite, partly because he's such a starkid stan himself
Ikr!!
there was a LACK of firebringer and ani. I’m in DESPAIR.
who doesn’t love joe walker? omg !!!
The fact that firebringer wasnt in the best music category is a sin
Tbh I really dislike the music from Firebringer
I know. Besides Twisted, I think it has my favorite music.
Some people dont appreciate things like the harmonies and...awesomeness that is firebringers soundtrack? They just look to comedy and good singers
hi hiiiii great video as always!! the fact that nick wasnt voted best comedic actor is a complete BETRAYAL he deserves better.
Straight facts!!! These people have no taste in comedy. Neither Nick L nor Brian H in the top 3??? How???
Bro I tried my best and voted for him, but these people just don’t know what’s up
Yeah I know, the firebringer soundtracks are often really short, but so amazing! The other ones are amazing as hell too, but firebringer should really apear in that category. Also snarl and the duck were super design 🦆🙈
AGREED!
I'm so conflicted for best actor... I love them all and Joey is so versatile, but I will NEVER ever forget Jeff's role as Aladdin. It was so iconic and so well played
"Nick Lang is an honorary lesbian" is the funniest sentence I have read this week
Same BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN
The bill scene will always make me cry in tgwdlm
I love this video so much!! But it makes me sad that so many fans don't seem to have watched the older musicals or remember the cast members from previous older shows. Their new shows are amazing don't get me wrong, but they have so many classics people seem to have forgotten.
A lot of the internet fandom is really young, I've noticed. They probably haven't watched the older ones, sadly.
sharksandsheep Wow a groundbreaking discovery made by no one else before 👏
I've been slowly making my way back, but I think it doesn't help that the older shows had worse film and audio quality and that there were a lot of more people who've only been in a couple shows
@@sydneehorne3551 I do understand that, when i first went back and watched some of the first shows that did put me off originally. But i'm happy that people are still giving them a try!
@@sebastiangonzalez995 Did I hurt your feelings, kiddo?
Never forget Joe Walker dancing as Umbridge in “Stutter” bc that was perfection 😤🤧
Nothing can compare. I agree
I honestly didn't expect TTO to win best comedy tbh. It was overall a good, comedic show- with some really strong jokes (Cornwallis appearing, Craphole putting the gun in his mouth, the Dikrats in general) but sometimes the jokes fell a bit flat or it came off as too obvious or trying to hard to be funny IMO.
honestly, the continuous fart/poop jokes and the final two songs almost ruin that show for me.
I think it just has a very dense comedic runtime, and a lot of favorites in it that skews it.
TC Fr! Like I would critique it as a good show with some very strong parts (such as showing the dynamic between mother and daughter for example) but then I feel like it’s too crackhead at *a lot* of parts.
It’s like, watching the video of the whole musical, you can tell when a lot of jokes are intended to get laughs from the audience but sometimes no one laughs or if they do, it’s not really an uproar.
I think they’re well aware people love Starkid for their own special crackhead energy, and tried to excessively capitalize on that for the show, but it came off as trying too hard to be that. Which is why other musicals like TGWDLM had much better comedy to me because the jokes sort of came naturally and weren’t too in your face with their obviousness.
I feel like the stupid humor is what makes it so great though. You have the moments like when craphole puts the gun in his mouth but its just so ironic with the fart jokes and the amount it breaks the 3rd wall makes it amazing and iconic
First the stupid humor is of course funny no doubt but for me personally it reaches a point where the jokes get too crackhead or trying to hard imo so that it’s not really naturally funny anymore
There's too much recency bias with Black Friday.
I think there is to much nostalgia with older shows. Like yeah Twisted is amazing and I'm happy it won so many awards, but so is TGWDLM's and BF.
@@SnowWhitesBite Eh, it's not nostalgia for me because I watches Twisted for the first time AFTER I watched TGWDLM. Twisted is definitely the best written show in all of Starkid. I think TGWDLM is also great, and Black Friday is meh.
@@SnowWhitesBite nah i only joined the fandom in 2020 and i think twisted is god tier even tho it's 10th on my own list. of course ive been familiar with starkid for years before as a big harry potter fan but i dont have any bias towards aladdin as i havent even seen it in full. twisted just feels the most like a broadway show and the songs are really well written
my list like anyone is interested lmao:
- best music: firebringer
- best comedy: trail to oregon
- best design: black friday
- best writing: twisted
- best overall: between twisted and tgwdlm
- best actor: joey
- best male singer: dylan
- best comedic actor: joe w
- best male dancer: james
- best actress: between lauren l and jaime and also angela
- best female singer: kim
- best comedic actress: between denise and lauren l
- best female dancer: again between denise and lauren l
- favourite starkid: between lauren l and jon
sacha we stan Denise appreciation
I almost agree with you on them all
Yeah Joey!!
Honestly I’m surprised Jeff got so low on favorite StarKid based on how much everyone talks about him
I mean he was in the top 10 out of 46 options given (plus a write in option) so I’d say that’s not very low, but I get what you’re saying.
@@LyleTheWaterAquaticGuy Oh yeah that's totally high. I've just seen a lot comments about Jeff on StarKids videos, more so than Joey (my favorite haha), so it was interesting to see!
Really well done video by the way!! Great editing and it was so cool to see the results
What’s this I see? Brolden and Brosenthal getting criminally slept on? That aside, this is a great video!
starship needed to top more of these, it definitely had best design and is top 3 for best music for sure. it’s up there with bf and twisted in my eyes
I’m sad Jeff didn’t get more votes for best actor. He always amazes me.
Brian h is actually a really good dancer and needs to be more appreciated for it
i was so shocked that joey was top 2 for favorite starkid. i mean, yeah, i voted him. but i was so sure #1 would be lauren and #2 would be robert. i still can't believe it.
I can totally see why he's 2nd tho, and I think it's deserved! Throughout all of his time in Starkid, he's played so, so many memorable and fan-favorite roles, even if they're not always the leads! The same could be said for Robert, but Joey is just such a representative icon for what Starkid is and I think comes to mind for a lot of fans more frequently than Robert would.
AVPM deserves more respect..
I love the Brosenthal appreciation 🥺
honestly, hmb has very good writing. i was rewatching it and the amount of candy puns and puns in general is incredible
I took this survey, and honestly I just don’t really consider them a StarKid until they’ve been in at least 2 shows, you know? I totally respect the people who are only in one show! It just isn’t the same for me.
i get u but for some i feel different. like, technically curt and mariah wouldn't be starkids by that logic but i feel like they've integrated really well to me
KichiKacey Archive I would definitely agree. I think on the general basis not being a starkid until 2 shows works but there should be certain exceptions like Mariah and curt because of how well they integrated
Raini Velazphez I feel like Jon has integrated well also?
@@christy5036 Jon has been in 2 shows though, not just 1
Raini Velazphez it’s also worth mentioning that Curt has also been in Tin Can Bro’s productions before, which has a lot of the same actors, so he’s spent a lot of time with a bunch of Starkids even before BF
petition for brosenthal to be number one for every category
Muireann Turner where can I sign? Asking for a friend
Unpopular opinion: Black Friday was really alright but it certainly wasn’t the best.
the lack of firebringer in this video really goes to show that it's one of if not the most underrated starkid shows ever :(
I didn’t like Firebringer too much when put next to the other musicals, but I must admit: it’s really funny
I feel Firebringer was one of the best, but it had some innovative features for a Starkid show that made it appeal to a narrower audience. Which is perfectly ok.
Sean McMurphy yeah, i just wish more people would appreciate it!
@@snowoiive SAME! For me it is in the top 3
@@snowoiive I suspect a major reason it has a smaller audience is that it lacks a strong leading man/het ship, instead the strong ships were lesbian. Considering the Starkid audience is about 90% females between 14-22 and not everyone is gay, for some people it was missing a factor that normally holds their interest in a musical, so they regarded it as "boring".
This is Meredith erasure and I won't stand for it!
i cannot believe i had to scroll so far down to see this comment thank you
jon being in the top 5 for fav starkid and top male actor... its what he deserves!!!
Honestly, as much as I love all the Starkids (which is A LOT), Jim stole my heart since AVPM with “Maybe a single drop”. I love xir!! And I think xe deserves more recognition, xe’s comedic timing is fantastic. But, yeah, I love them all, just a little Jim biased lol
I had no idea that Jim uses xe/xir pronouns!
YES I LOVE JIM XE IS SO FUCKING FUNNY IN EVERYTHIJG. every line xe says has me in tears
It’s so hard to pick faves. Even more so cause my brain likes to blur the lines between Starkid and TCB.
me and the boys: me and the 415 lesbians who voted for Lauren for fave starkid
Most of the fans are starkid stans since 2018.. And it shows
@@Vanessa-uo6lt i mean, i watched my first show in october 2019 but i feel like belong and relate to the older fandom more than the new ones
TGWDLM really deserve a bonus award for its design being so simple yet effective
Absolutely. The style makes it clear that its modern and the lights change depending on the scene and mood, which creates a brilliant atmosphere.
You did an amazing job with the clips of "best design"! (But honestly starship deserved being the first one don't @ me)
firebringer deserved to be in the top three at least for design (snarl, the costumes, the fire, the one scene with the silhouettes through the backdrop)
@@miekaeh7789 you're right, it looked really cool! The night belongs to Snarl was- W O W
how dare you show the clip of bill when he was suicidal
Tbh some of this r very accurate, but tho i really really love BF an TGWDLM, i think there's a lot of recency bias rn, which is okay, cause the new stuff MUST be appreciated (and you can see how much they've grown since the beginning), but sometimes we might forget how brilliant the older stuff was too
It also goes the opposite way sometimes with people who refuse to appreciate the new shows saying things like "they aren't as good as they used to be", but we should understand that it is possible to enjoy the new ones and still love the old ones
CLARK SHOULD'VE SHOWED UP ON THE BEST SINGER POLL :( AT LEAST PAN DOWN TO MY BOI CLARK
Denise: is literally a professional dancer and choreographer.
Starkids: okay, but Lauren is the best dancer
I mean, Lauren has also done some choreography for starkid, I know she did some for tgwdlm, and saf over on the tin can bros and probably some more stuff.
But you have to keep in mind Lauren is featured dancing in more shows so of course people are going to lean towards the person they know better
It made my heart happy everytime I saw Jon's name on a list.
Ok ok my opinions that no one asked for:
Brolden is one of the best singers and I can't believe everyone's sleeping on him.
Britney Coleman and Tyler Brunsman should have had better representation.
Based on these rankings, I doubt everyone who took the survey has seen all the shows.
I think this fandom has trouble ranking objectively. People seem to have a favourite and put them overly high in certain categories just because they like them (to each their own obviously but you get my point.)
cough cough TGWDLM is kinda overrated imo
Everyone is sleeping on Kim
Well, she has only been in one show
Andrea Delikat so has Mariah
@@andreadelikat2220 and so has Angela
AJ, Brian R. and Joe W. are my fave starkids so it kinda sucks to not see more of them on these lists, but the more recent musicals might also be more fresh on people’s mind so I get it I guess
I have to say I’m really happy to see Rachael in the best actress category, she’s SO GOOOOOD
2:30 there’s something so appealing about what might be the most dramatic number in twisted being played over the choreography of no-one remembers achmed
This is AJ *and* Ani *and* Joe Walker *and* Nick Lang *and* cLARK ERASURE AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT?!?
was meredith even in this video?
This is blatant Britney erasure in the singing category.
I thing it bears reminding that everyone in StarKid is great, all of the StarKid shows are a wonderful gift that they never had to give us, and that everyone is entitled to their own preferences. I’ve a lot of distaste for some of the newer shows and the people who came into this fandom because of it lately. I’ve seen “X is over/under rated” left and right. The last thing I wanna see is this relatively non toxic fandom become divided. So I remind you guys of B@tman’s “masks! Capes! Superheroes are cool!” speech, because you know what? StarKid is cool! Nick Lang, Joe Walker, Kim Whalen, Lauren Lopez, Joey Richter, they’re all amazing! We shouldn’t base whether we like someone or whether we like a show or not on what’s popular at the moment, all love for StarKid is good love for StarKid! Whether you like Black Friday, Me & My Dick, Ani, AVPS or Twisted the most, the important thing is we all love these amazing people who had the guts and good will to put ENTIRE shows they wrote online for us to enjoy!
13:52 nooo you should have put that scene in where denise is kissing bug and zoom in joeys face. He is SO cute there xD
The appreciation for Starship and HMB was surprising. Well done community!
Also, your choice of scene to showcase Robert's acting? * Chef's kiss*
The server lack of AVPS is evident to how underrated it is
YALL NEED TO REWATCH HOLY MUSICAL BATMAN IF YALL HAD IT AT 5 ON THE COMEDY
The transition between not your seed and lost without you genuinely threw me
I love that you included your faves because it reminds me that there are seasoned starkids who love each and every musical and cast member exist.
Okayyyyy but for best male actor wHY isn’t Joe even ON the list??? Like look at Voldy, Dick, Umbridge, Up, Batman, Achmed, Tarkin, Ducker and Deadliest Man Alive, all completely different and yet all played by the same actor. In this essay I will-
In case you haven’t noticed, Joe is my favourite StarKid.
As the first time I’ve seen a star kid performance is the Harry Potter ones, I’m disappointed we didn’t see any Malfoy action in this ranking but, I’m happy lauren got first.
I love the design of TGWDLM because it portrayed the whole town with the simplest bit of set and clever lighting, particularly when one section is lit up as Paul's TV
What I've learnt from this is taht the top three musicals [ignoring recent musical bias] are twisted, starship and tgwdlm
My personal list:
Shows
Best music:
1. Twisted
2. Firebringer
3. Starship
Best comedy:
1. AVPM
2. HMB
3. Ani
Best design:
1. Starship (No contest)
2. HMB
3. MAMD
Best writing/story:
1. AVPM (it's crazy, but gotta love it)
2. HMB
3. Starship
Best overall:
1. HMB
2. AVPM
3. Twisted
Men
Best actor:
1. Joey
2. Chris
3. Joe Walker
Best singer:
Tied between Dylan, Brian R and A.J Holmes (Honestly can't decide). Props to Joey for his improvement though.
Best comedic actor:
1. Joe W
2. Brian H
3. Jeff
Best dancer:
I've never really paid much attention to this before to be honest. I think Robert is top, but other than that I don't know.
Women
(Because there's fewer female main starkids I'm just going to do my favourite for these)
Best actress: Rachael
Best singer: Jaime
Best comedic actress: Lauren
Best dancer: Again, not sure - I know Denise runs a dancing studio etc, but I don't remember her dancing from the shows enough to judge.
The people
Favourite Starkid:
1. Joe Walker
2. A.J. Holmes (mainly for writing)
3. Joey
4. Lauren
4. Brian H
I absolutely love your content, this is great! Also the Ani soundtrack deserves more love
honestly kendall even though she’s young deserves a lot more recognition in the community, we know her singing is great but she handled a different and emotional role extremely well
Joe walker has one of the best ranges for acting. I mean he plays such diverse characters, from Achmed to the DMA
May I just say how amazing the editing in this video is? It’s *chef kiss* perfect 👌
Jeff is criminally underrated
5. FACTS
me: so like statistics and stuff?
* love and appreciation for brosenthal *
me: oh ok i prefer this
i think what this proves is that we need more musicals with robert in leading roles.
also may i just say answering these questions was nearly impossible. i love these casts all so much and they’re all so incredibly talented. when came to picking my favorites i literally had to stop and think for five minutes about each one.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the video but as someone who does mics for the shows at my hs, I really hate how their mics are placed but I do like that they're at least moderately consistent and don't draw attention to themselves.
Okay, about the video:
I agree with most of the rankings and it wasn't surprising that Joey, Dylan and Lauren ranked so high in so many categories. I love the clips you used for all of the categories and how they were all kind of from different shows.
I just realized how much of a bisexual icon Ted is
but guys... Firebringer's soundtrack though
I mean..... Sameee
Yeah! Every song on there is a bop.
YES! The harmonies were great! Idk why people dont like Firebringer tbh
it got TWELVE VOTES I'm rioting
Firebringer is in my top 3. I think one reason for it’s unpopularity is it’s innovative story: It didn’t have a strong leading man/het ship. Considering 90% of the Starkid audience is females between 14-22 and we’re not all gay, a segment of the audience may have felt Firebringer lacked something they want in a musical. But that’s completely ok
Black Friday was James stage debut, wasn't it?
I know he is the choreographer, but it shows what an impression he made that he was so high with one show.
Im so happy robert was voted so high. I thought my obsession with was uncalled for but now its justified
if you thought your obsession with robert was not incredibly common you must not have spent much time with the fandom yet
@@weesalikesmilktea4829 for real i thought he was going to get #2 in favorite starkid but to my utter suprise, he lost to joey by 40 votes
the brosenthal appreciation warms my heart, he really doesn’t get enough attention. I feel like he gives awesome hugs.
Kim was robbed in the best singer category....
Two seconds in and you chose one of my (underrated) favorite moments. And, God, I wish Jaime were number one. She is by far my favorite actress. Her range is amazing.
lauren lopez is probably my favorite starkid and i love her acting but i want to see her in a more vulnerable role if that makes sense? like i love emma perkins with my entire heart and zazzalil deserves everything but pls let someone else be a villain
I’m so confused are you saying they were villains? Emma was the main love interest, and Zazzalil was the protagonist. I’m so lost here
I'm glad TTO made it into top 5 for story and overall!!! People know it's funny but it's severely underrated in everything else. Its one of my ABSOLUTE favorites.
I love seeing Jon’s name so often. Makes me happy. :)
ok but WTF HMB SHOULD BE TOP 3 IN BEST COMEDYS
glad this turned into a Brosenthal stan video by the end!! Our boy needs more roles!! He was wonderful in Solve It Squad playing everyone else haha
I´m so happy that Clark got some votes on best singer! I'm kind of sad that the OGs aren't mentioned as much... There's so much talent from over all the years!
Those who haven't voted for James for best dancer either haven't seen Black Friday or just forgot his name.
Twisted was top 3 a lot of the time holy shit! Knew it was my fave for a reason haha