44 You know for a video like this left me with no words to comment how I experienced the entertainment factor to see it works so beautiful from the un-box till the first cut. I will try, and that is a very satisfactory video to see it working, the cedar log looks like a beautiful wood, I can just imagine how fast that machine can pay itself off if you sell that solid wooden planks. I am sure Missus 44 is proud of you, the trailer looks brand new and part and parcel of the whole package. Well done my friend, that was time and money well spend
I'm really glad to see you thoroughly enjoyed the build Jan !! It was a really fun project even though most all the welding was done in the sun at 95* to 100* F ( 35C to 38C). Well, not the MIG welding inside the shed. But all the stick welding was. We are really pleased with the outcome of the project and the lumber that's come off it so far is excellent. Thank you my friend for stopping by for a visit !!
Your video will really help me not to make the same mistakes when assembling my sawmill. Thank you for the heads up and info. Good job explaining everything.
It really wasn't too much of a problem to assemble at all. The biggest issue I have is the one side of the cable spreads out as it winds around the pipe, making the one side raise slightly higher than the other. I can NOT get it to roll with a tight winding like the other side, but fortunately it's only about 1/32 in difference. I was thinking to do a general walk around now that I've run a good amount of material through it. One thing for sure is don't crowd it in the hardwoods, because the blade will be forced backwards on the drive wheels just slightly which will result in rapid blade ejection and destruction. And it will sound like a deer rifle going off !! I found out that with the Missus running the mill with the hardwoods, we have much better luck. She is blessed with more patience than I plus she just can't push as hard. You will enjoy your mill, but make sure it is plumb and level and the bedframe is perfectly straight. Thank you for the continued interest Joseph.
Well Bob, she helped me get it assembled, it's only right that she gets in on the first log or two !! Thank you for the kind words and please have a wonderful and warm Thanksgiving for yourself and your close ones as well.
Morning T! I'll bet Frontier never had such a good looking unit. The trailer came out great and I think a lot of folks will benefit from you sharing all the experiences and little challenges here and there along the way. But hey, now you're milling wood! Great series - thanks for taking the time to let us tag along and learn as we go! Have fun with the new mill my friend!
Thanks GP, for the kind words. It WAS a bit of a job with the majority of the welding done during the heat of the late summer....but it was worth it. It seems to serve its purpose well, at least so far anyway. I have to take credit for some of the issues with the mill assembly, because I'm not the best at reading and familiarizing myself with the instructions.... Take care my friend !!
Very helpful info. I just assembled my OS27 but haven’t used it yet. The Briggs & Stratton 13.5 hp engine would not idle, so I had to take it in to a service center for repair/ adjustment. The only mistake I made so far was NOT getting the electric start. It’s gets old pull starting that engine. Thanks for posting the video!
I learned my lesson about electric start with the De Walt power washer. It has a big engine that I hate to pull start. Now that its got a few years on it, it takes a bit to get it going. I LOVE the electric start on the 13 1/2 hp Briggs. I added a couple of extra log dogs by making my own cross pipes out of 1'' galvanized well pump pipe and am going to add more log back stops down the length of the 21' bed. I've got a few other upgrades planned as well. Did you purchase the trailer option, build your own or set it on ground bunks.... ??
Heck fire Tony...wait until you hit the big 7 0 if you really want to see how bending over can hurt!! LOL The bar joists add a bit to the overall height, but like I said, when you build your own, concessions have to be made. It's not a bad problem in this case.
Things to watch for. Reading the manual can help with assembly. Having you go over all the things in the process and explain any issues is invaluable. 😁😎
Well, I'm hoping that pointing out some of the things I didn't pick up on too quickly might help another first time owner of one of these or similar mills during their assembly. The Missus just told me tonight that there was a Blu Ray disc in the packet of info....but we don't have a player. So I am sure watching that would have been exceptionally beneficial.
@@tractorman4461 Funny how the tech lags behind the times. I have VHF tapes for my table saw, lathe, and planer. I'm a pack rat so I have the Curtis Mathis VHF camera, 35 years old and counting, and a deck to play them on. I also have CD's and DVD's with pictures and software on them. I kept one laptop just because it has a player in it. We have a drawer full of Blue Ray disks and a Sony Blue Ray player purchased with the flat screen TV 15 ago. 🤔 We don't watch them often. We have Alexa play music instead of the radio or records. We watch on demand with Roku setup on the TV. A good $20K in hardware and software sitting on shelves getting dusted. 😁😎 Just to prove I am slightly off, I have micro floppy disks and even a few 5 1/4 floppy disks. Yes. I kept a tower and external drive to read them. By now the drive belts are old enough I expect them to break. 😁😎 I bought hardware to allow me to transfer files to thumb drives, extermal solid state hard drives, and the "cloud".
@@OldSneelock Hahahaha....I totally enjoyed that comment. Such a sign of the times !! I too have a few floppys of both sizes as well but those are all hvac digital control information. Several DVD's as well from hvac manufacturers and suppliers with tons of info as long as we had the laptops to access them, which I did and still do. However we've never had a Blu Ray...LOL. We gave away our VHS player to a young single gal with three kids that needed it, plus about 50 kids vhs tapes. And I forgot I had a service and training vhs for my JET metal lathe. LOL Up a creek with that move. But no matter I never watched the tape anyway. I've kept some of the first generation thumb drives filled with equipment information and with a USB port so readily available they are still relevant. I'll pass those to a friend still actively in the trade. Now I've got SD cards and higher capacity thumb drives out the wazoo and God only knows how long they will be relevant. We are at the mercy of technology are we not...??!!
Another quality video Wendell and the wife looked very comfortable cutting the log. I see you built a walking platform, great job. Be safe and enjoy your new "toy".
Thanks Mike. Yes, she actually enjoyed sawing that little guy up. A neighbor gave me a good pile of 3 1/2''x12''x16' bridge timbers from a bridge rehab project his company did. So I tossed two of the worst ones on the ground. So that's only temporary...but functional.
I enjoyed the video. I am pulling my cutting head Monday and bringing it back to the shop. Another bearing went out. My recommendation is to replace all the bearings once the first bearing goes down. $80 worth of bearings is very reasonable for a year of hard work. I wished I had of went with the OS27 as the OS23 has been a little small on more than one occasion. I opted for the smaller engine, which was also a mistake. I just ordered an 18 hp electric start engine for mine. I was going to buy a 14hp Predator engine, but they are out of stock until next year. The 18hp is a bit overkill, but from my research, I think it will bolt up just the same. I ordered a heavy-duty clutch also. I was checking your video very closely to see how yours is set up. Great video.
I was wondering how long those China made sealed bearings would last. I figure a good set of grease able bearings from Browning would be my choice for replacement when the time comes. I'm not going to be sawing near the wood you saw in a given year so mine should be good for a while. And yes, I kind of already wish I'd have went with the OS 31...LOL. I'm NOT sorry for upgrading to the 13 hp electric start though. At all !! Thanks for the tip on the leveling jacks. I don't know if these are your exact ones, but they seem to be adequate at just four...so far. We'll wait until I get a BIG log on board before I decide if more are required or not. But the bar joists seem to not deflect at all so far. I credited you with that tip in the description. Thanks again Tony.
Hahahaha...thanks Mike. I put the playlist of the trailer build on the other comment, but here it is again: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
Hahahaha....It IS kinda slick ain't it... LOL. But I guess its not nice to brag on oneself is it....LOL But it was also a pleasure to have the help I had that day as well !! (-:
I bought some cedar lumber to trim Barb's portable bldg. It is western cedar which doesn't have that brilliant red color in it. Has a bit more of a brown tint. Still very sharp looking but not the show stopper that stuff you are sawing is. Enjoyed the full walk along with you Wendel. Good job.
We don't have western cedar down this way but there are tons and tons of red cedar. There are cedar glades here that contain nothing but red cedar. Thanks for the nice words and for taking the time to follow along with the build Gary.
My neighbor happened to give me 16 deck boards off of a bridge rehab project his company did. These are 3 1/2''x12''x16' so I just took two of the worst ones and tossed them there to walk on. Worked fine too Jeffrey !!
Wow!!! She works like a champ man!!!! You've got some beautiful cedar there!! I can smell that being cut from here 😊👍 and I must say your advice is worth much more than a cup of Tim Hortons 😜 great video man!
Thanks Andrew for the nice words man. I don't know....but my advice wouldn't stand a chance against Tim Horton's if you toss in the box of Tim Bits....LOL. Notice the slabs being thrown off the top....right next to the pile for the buzz saw !! LOL
@@tractorman4461 that's smart production right there!! And don't sell yourself short man I love your words of wisdom and I know myself and many others are thankful to have you share your thoughts here sir! Stay Awesome!!
Congrats! A great addition to the inventory of tools and equipment. Enjoyed the build. I purchased a 1987 WM LT40 Hydraulic that I have mechanically restored over the last couple of years. Doesn't look as pretty as yours, but it now works great!!!
Wood Miser is a mill of far superior quality over these 'entry' level machines. But with the limited use mine will see, I couldn't justify the greater cost. I'm sure Steve, that yours is now in fine operating shape. As you've seen in some of my other videos, this machine is the only shiny one I own...so there's nothing wrong with a little rust or as the restorers say...'patina'. LOL
Counter clockwise is down. Clockwise is up. Reverse your lifting cable winding. Right now you’re turning against the brake. I did the same thing. Fixed it and now it’s a joy to lift and lower.
Thanks for the tip. You gotta admit though that some of those details are kinda hard to pull out of the manual with the pictures and description they have. I will double check as you suggest. I'm assuming you too have a Frontier...??
@@toothandnailsawmill102 hahahaha…. I remember that comment. I must be following the path you took !! LOL I am really tickled with it so far but I’ve not sawed any hardwoods yet.
Great to see you both running the band saw. That is the largest Ceder I have ever seen. Here in Southeast Tennessee. It would take maybe two lifetimes or more, for one to grow that big . Wish shipping wasn't has high as it is now. I would love to buy some boards that wide. Outstanding Job ! All my very best.
We have some pretty sizeable cedars up this way Bobby. On the old home place back in the 70's we cut a cedar grove that netted tons of 1''x16''x10'. And of course many times that in 6'', 8'', and 10'' material. I lined the Missus huge walk in closet in red cedar all tongue and grooved by she and I plus a few year back I lined a 228 sq ft four season room in red cedar. And there's a big area I finished in the basement with 45* angles of cedar as well as a wall waist high with a shelf all from just a part of what was left over from the 70's. And I still have a few hundred board feet of the smaller stuff left yet today from back then. I've got about 15 or so cedars to cut for another old friend later this winter or early spring. There'll be a couple upwards of 16'' or so there too. Thanks Bobby for the visit my friend !!
Yes, and surprisingly easy to push through the log. As long as the blade is in good shape. Next thing I gotta come up with is a way to sharpen these blades. They are only good for about 600 board feet of hardwood as I understand.
She said she really enjoyed using the mill too. So I am sure she will be involved with some sawing in the future as well. Thanks Mike for the visit and taking the time to comment.
Cool, I hope some of the videos have helped you in your decision. Have you seen the trailer build and mill assembly playlist yet? If not here its all in one place for you:ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
Wendell, that was nice of. You to test your wife’s new toy for her!🤣😂🤣😂! That cedar looked beautiful, and that saw runs like a champ! Surprised you went with a “Briggs & Stratton” engined unit over a Honda or some other power plant, but none the less it looks like it was a wise choice! Have fun with the new toy, and thanks fo the reminder about surroundings!
I couldn't choose the brand, just the horsepower. I upgraded in hp and with the electric start option. I would've LOVED to have a Honda or Kawasaki on it. If I built one myself...which I almost did, I was toying with the idea of powering it with a 600 cc Yamaha in line four. That would've made it scream and have more power than it would ever need.
Great job. I like the height👍 for yourself on your property, if ya want you could dig a small ditch to accept the trailer tires. That way you wouldn’t have to remove them and maybe get it a bit lower. Just a thought. You do you friend🙂 also sawing with sandy’s channel is a great source. He warns you’ll probably hit those back stops... and has advice on how not too. Also he’s installed a laser to help ya get the most out of your cuts. A real nice upgrade in my opinion 😎 keep on tractor’n tractorman
Now a laser sounds like a great idea. I've not seen that yet. I will go check him out...thanks for the tip !! And yes, I've thought about carrying a shovel with me for that reason. The good thing about removing the tires though, is it makes it much more difficult to be stolen. There's always trailers, deckovers and goosenecks, stolen in this rural area. This rig might be a temptation. Dunno though. Thanks again for the tip on Sandy.
I'm glad you showed us 'everything' here in the processes involved in making this mill 'work' for you Wendell. I can see a few modification that you can easily make on this mill, and I'm guessing that you are more than likely thinking along similar lines. You mentioned that the blade will cut through some grit that, no doubt, will be in the bark of these logs, what do you plan on doing with that issue? A debarking attachment maybe? I enjoyed all of these video, and I hope we get to see more lumber coming off this mill. I `tip my hat` to you!
I don't think my I'll be sawing enough to justify a debarking setup, but I do plan on coming up with my own rig for sharpening the blades, so I can get two or three times the life out of them. Like we did on the circle mill, the obvious areas where excessive grit can be spotted, I'll just knock off the bark with a double bit. We try to be careful when handling logs in the field, and I think I will stress a little more care to keep them off the ground from cutting to the bunks. Now with forks on a couple tractors and the skidloader, we CAN minimize the time on the ground. I'm glad you enjoyed the series Reg. Thanks for following it all the way through. And yes, there will be more milling coming up....
Thanks Andy. Appreciate your time watching. And I am going to take the skidloader injection pump in for a rebuild. Hopefully this week. I need it bad right now...but ain't that always the case.
You did a fantastic job on the assembly of the mill and build of the trailer! If you were closer, I've got some nice seasoned black walnut you could cut on shares. (If you wanted some). Doc
That's awesome Tim. Did you order the OS27 or the 31 ? I made several videos about building a trailer and assembling the machine. I used old commercial bar joists to build my trailer and it worked very well for a full three section 21' mill. ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html You might find something to help you in the assembly videos. I had a tough time following the book. But that was just me I think.
@@tractorman4461 I ordered the os27 I'm building my trailer from a old boat trailer and 2 I beams with 4 hydraulic levers . I have experience building the conveyor systems in auto plants . I was a ironworker for 40 yr. So shouldn't have much trouble .
@@timlawson817 oh heck no you'll have no trouble at all. I'm a retired pipefitter commercial service tech. I like the hydraulic levelers idea. I've already got some ideas for a few changes too. I kinda wish I'd have went with the OS31, just because the added width would minimize trimming burls off to make it to where the saw head clears the logs from one end to the other with the first two cuts. Sometime longer logs that are curved a bit gives an issue too. Four inches would make a big difference I think now.
The wife handled it like a boss! And, you can get a senior coffee at McDonald's for fifty cents! What type of blade coolant do you plan to run in that tank? Will it have some type of anti gumming agent in it for wood high in resin?
Probably water unless it freezing, then a little RV anti freeze...Some guys run a bit of Pine Sol I think in the water. It keeps from freezing and cuts the resin at the same time. But I don't really know yet for sure. I'm researching that right now Matt, but the Missus suggests Simple Green or Dawn.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO STARTING ( NICE LOOKING LADY using your sawmill 🌹👍👌😉) Very well detail explanations Sir, ( love your Tim Horton's writing comments ! ) Emergency button Check Sir !!! LOL So do you like more the saw than a circular saw ? Practice make perfect !!! No Sir, I will look your hard working and keep the nice looking lady for dessert 😉🌹 Very nice looking board Sir ! I hope that your OUTSTANDING video will make GP the move to buy one !!! ; ) It must be very well smelling wood ! Great looking lady walking over your wooden path 🌹👍😉 Cheers !!!
I do think you just made the Missus blush with all that sweet talk Dave....you sly devil you. What they call smooth talkers like you down in this neck of the woods is a 'lady killer'..... But that's to be taken in a GOOD way. You're like my Much Older Brother....the ladies melt at your feet soon as you guys flash those pearly whites !! With me, they usually scream and run away...... LOL. But thank you for all the nice things and yes I AM a lucky guy. Not only is she hard working, she's smart AND she's an excellent cook !!
Wendell you need to make you a little platform for the you start on so you can crank that handle easier. Maybe a wood pallet. How many spare blades did you get? I would probably need a half dozen. Great video, I really enjoyed it.
Yes, this being the 'first run' I found a few things that need to be improved on and that was one of them. Just a few inches is all I need too. Not a crazy amount. I got a pack of 10 blades plus the one shipped on it Rick. But soon I will work on a way to grind the blades for a second or third use.
@@tractorman4461 Belsaw has a rig to sharpen bandaw blades that might fit your 1055 grinder. It is a set of guides to track the blade in front of the wheel similar to a chainsaw grinder. A talented young man like yourself could raid your scrap bin and cobble up one in an afternoon. 😁
@@OldSneelock You know, I have seen one of those in an illustration but not firsthand. I'm sure I will come up with something but I don't know what yet. LOL IIRC, the Norwood group wants like $750.00 for theirs.
A Fine job indeed and I Thank the 44Crew for a graphic view of this cedarific display! I must say that Missus 44 was a whole lot prettier than Tractorman44 , no offense of course. I can see it all now: Missus 44 LumberYard, Fine Quality and Fine Woods! Now 44 Friend Wendell, if you’d wear that sheer tutu of yours it would attract far more viewers. I raise me CuppaJO your way from my holler to yours! And how about making some posters of Missus 44 at her sawmill for we woodworkers to have a pin up girl for our workshops? This is DaveyJO and I’m headin to me JOpot for another toast your way! A FINE 44 Vid of the highest quality!
Hahahahahaha....DaveyJO, you never cease to amaze me with your dazzling words my friend !! But I sure agree with you that the Missus is for sure a WHOLE lot prettier than me. No one can accuse ME of winning no beauty contest....the Missus even hides my mirrors so I won't scare myself !! Good woman she is. And yes, I am a lucky man !! Take care ol' buddy and I'll be sippin' and tippin' your direction in the morning !!
No, I haven't even seen an Alaskan chainsaw mill other than on youtube. My understanding is they run a special grind on the chain. And if they dull to any extent, I think you really have to work to make lumber. My favorite has always been a circle mill....so I'm remaining a bit skeptical about the bandsaw yet.
Now that you have some years of experience with this sawmill, can you offer any advice about a problem my brother is having with the same model as yours? His problem is that the sawdust continues to build up inside the blade/belt cover and does not discharge out of the chute to the outside. There is no blockage in the chute all - it stays clean and wide open. We have experimented with adjusting the water drip from minimal to maximum but it changes nothing in regards to this problem. He primarily saws cedar and old pine, not much hardwood available to him.
Mine did exactly the same thing and the way I minimized it was to take side cutters and clip out all of the guard material from the opening. It’s still plugs up however to an extent around the opening but more of it definitely goes out. It also balls up around the micro switches in the center. What I do is make about 10 cuts then open one of the doors and blow everything out with the leaf blower. The moisture content of green material causes it to pack itself in the corner near the chute opening. And in exceptionally dry wood, the lubricant contributes to that as well. It’s only a minor issue as long as you keep a leaf blower handy.
Yes Mike, and I saw your next comment where you found the answer. Here's the playlist if you'd like to see more: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
Hahahahaha....yeah, me too. I hate reading and trying to figure out what they are trying to say. That's what the Missus is for.... LOL Thanks David for the smile.
No, I had a Belsaw that I just sold a few months ago Eddy...but I DO have another home built mill back in the woods that's not assembled....Plus parts to a few others and another complete circle mill with 3-71 Detroit for power.
@@eddygoodwin7089 Here's one of the videos on my son in laws channel:ua-cam.com/video/x2NMojV5BG8/v-deo.html and here is another one with him running it: ua-cam.com/video/YSdRTKeDj0g/v-deo.html Enjoy Eddy !!
Votre cage de roulement sur le schaf est mal installées sur votre vidéo de montage. Les cages du roulement doivent être montées tout les deux chaque côté du roulement et non avec le montant du moulin entre les cages. Si le montant aurait deux pouces d'épais le roulement serait lousse de côté.
Je ne suis pas sûr de l'ensemble exact de roulements dont vous parlez. S'agit-il des paliers d'arbre autour desquels les câbles s'enroulent pour soulever la tête de scie ? Pouvez-vous préciser l'emplacement précis ?
Hahahaha...you're the second guy to suggest that. I told him too that I was thinking of carrying a shovel along just for that reason. Thanks Greg for watching and chiming in with the suggestion !!
44 You know for a video like this left me with no words to comment how I experienced the entertainment factor to see it works so beautiful from the un-box till the first cut.
I will try, and that is a very satisfactory video to see it working, the cedar log looks like a beautiful wood, I can just imagine how fast that machine can pay itself off if you sell that solid wooden planks.
I am sure Missus 44 is proud of you, the trailer looks brand new and part and parcel of the whole package.
Well done my friend, that was time and money well spend
I'm really glad to see you thoroughly enjoyed the build Jan !! It was a really fun project even though most all the welding was done in the sun at 95* to 100* F ( 35C to 38C). Well, not the MIG welding inside the shed. But all the stick welding was. We are really pleased with the outcome of the project and the lumber that's come off it so far is excellent. Thank you my friend for stopping by for a visit !!
Your video will really help me not to make the same mistakes when assembling my sawmill. Thank you for the heads up and info. Good job explaining everything.
It really wasn't too much of a problem to assemble at all. The biggest issue I have is the one side of the cable spreads out as it winds around the pipe, making the one side raise slightly higher than the other. I can NOT get it to roll with a tight winding like the other side, but fortunately it's only about 1/32 in difference.
I was thinking to do a general walk around now that I've run a good amount of material through it. One thing for sure is don't crowd it in the hardwoods, because the blade will be forced backwards on the drive wheels just slightly which will result in rapid blade ejection and destruction. And it will sound like a deer rifle going off !!
I found out that with the Missus running the mill with the hardwoods, we have much better luck. She is blessed with more patience than I plus she just can't push as hard. You will enjoy your mill, but make sure it is plumb and level and the bedframe is perfectly straight. Thank you for the continued interest Joseph.
Another outstanding video by 44 and the Mrs. A happy and blessed thanksgiving to you and your family.
Well Bob, she helped me get it assembled, it's only right that she gets in on the first log or two !! Thank you for the kind words and please have a wonderful and warm Thanksgiving for yourself and your close ones as well.
Morning T! I'll bet Frontier never had such a good looking unit. The trailer came out great and I think a lot of folks will benefit from you sharing all the experiences and little challenges here and there along the way. But hey, now you're milling wood! Great series - thanks for taking the time to let us tag along and learn as we go! Have fun with the new mill my friend!
Thanks GP, for the kind words. It WAS a bit of a job with the majority of the welding done during the heat of the late summer....but it was worth it. It seems to serve its purpose well, at least so far anyway. I have to take credit for some of the issues with the mill assembly, because I'm not the best at reading and familiarizing myself with the instructions.... Take care my friend !!
That setup worked out great. Saw is cutting very nicely.
Thanks Wild Bill... And yes there certainly are similarities between our two mills.
Looks to be sawing really nice.Thanks for showing us the build.MJ
Thanks Mark, and yes, so far so good. I'm surprised at how accurately and smoothly it cuts.
Very helpful info. I just assembled my OS27 but haven’t used it yet. The Briggs & Stratton 13.5 hp engine would not idle, so I had to take it in to a service center for repair/ adjustment. The only mistake I made so far was NOT getting the electric start. It’s gets old pull starting that engine. Thanks for posting the video!
I learned my lesson about electric start with the De Walt power washer. It has a big engine that I hate to pull start. Now that its got a few years on it, it takes a bit to get it going. I LOVE the electric start on the 13 1/2 hp Briggs. I added a couple of extra log dogs by making my own cross pipes out of 1'' galvanized well pump pipe and am going to add more log back stops down the length of the 21' bed. I've got a few other upgrades planned as well. Did you purchase the trailer option, build your own or set it on ground bunks.... ??
@@tractorman4461 I bought the trailer package. That part I got right.
Great job on the build. I love the extra height of your mill. I don't bend over as well, as I once did.
Heck fire Tony...wait until you hit the big 7 0 if you really want to see how bending over can hurt!! LOL The bar joists add a bit to the overall height, but like I said, when you build your own, concessions have to be made. It's not a bad problem in this case.
Things to watch for.
Reading the manual can help with assembly. Having you go over all the things in the process and explain any issues is invaluable. 😁😎
Well, I'm hoping that pointing out some of the things I didn't pick up on too quickly might help another first time owner of one of these or similar mills during their assembly. The Missus just told me tonight that there was a Blu Ray disc in the packet of info....but we don't have a player. So I am sure watching that would have been exceptionally beneficial.
@@tractorman4461 Funny how the tech lags behind the times. I have VHF tapes for my table saw, lathe, and planer.
I'm a pack rat so I have the Curtis Mathis VHF camera, 35 years old and counting, and a deck to play them on.
I also have CD's and DVD's with pictures and software on them. I kept one laptop just because it has a player in it.
We have a drawer full of Blue Ray disks and a Sony Blue Ray player purchased with the flat screen TV 15 ago. 🤔
We don't watch them often.
We have Alexa play music instead of the radio or records.
We watch on demand with Roku setup on the TV.
A good $20K in hardware and software sitting on shelves getting dusted. 😁😎
Just to prove I am slightly off, I have micro floppy disks and even a few 5 1/4 floppy disks. Yes. I kept a tower and external drive to read them.
By now the drive belts are old enough I expect them to break. 😁😎
I bought hardware to allow me to transfer files to thumb drives, extermal solid state hard drives, and the "cloud".
@@OldSneelock Hahahaha....I totally enjoyed that comment. Such a sign of the times !! I too have a few floppys of both sizes as well but those are all hvac digital control information. Several DVD's as well from hvac manufacturers and suppliers with tons of info as long as we had the laptops to access them, which I did and still do. However we've never had a Blu Ray...LOL. We gave away our VHS player to a young single gal with three kids that needed it, plus about 50 kids vhs tapes. And I forgot I had a service and training vhs for my JET metal lathe. LOL Up a creek with that move. But no matter I never watched the tape anyway.
I've kept some of the first generation thumb drives filled with equipment information and with a USB port so readily available they are still relevant. I'll pass those to a friend still actively in the trade. Now I've got SD cards and higher capacity thumb drives out the wazoo and God only knows how long they will be relevant. We are at the mercy of technology are we not...??!!
Another quality video Wendell and the wife looked very comfortable cutting the log. I see you built a walking platform, great job. Be safe and enjoy your new "toy".
Thanks Mike. Yes, she actually enjoyed sawing that little guy up. A neighbor gave me a good pile of 3 1/2''x12''x16' bridge timbers from a bridge rehab project his company did. So I tossed two of the worst ones on the ground. So that's only temporary...but functional.
I enjoyed the video. I am pulling my cutting head Monday and bringing it back to the shop. Another bearing went out. My recommendation is to replace all the bearings once the first bearing goes down. $80 worth of bearings is very reasonable for a year of hard work. I wished I had of went with the OS27 as the OS23 has been a little small on more than one occasion. I opted for the smaller engine, which was also a mistake. I just ordered an 18 hp electric start engine for mine. I was going to buy a 14hp Predator engine, but they are out of stock until next year. The 18hp is a bit overkill, but from my research, I think it will bolt up just the same. I ordered a heavy-duty clutch also. I was checking your video very closely to see how yours is set up. Great video.
I was wondering how long those China made sealed bearings would last. I figure a good set of grease able bearings from Browning would be my choice for replacement when the time comes. I'm not going to be sawing near the wood you saw in a given year so mine should be good for a while. And yes, I kind of already wish I'd have went with the OS 31...LOL. I'm NOT sorry for upgrading to the 13 hp electric start though. At all !! Thanks for the tip on the leveling jacks. I don't know if these are your exact ones, but they seem to be adequate at just four...so far. We'll wait until I get a BIG log on board before I decide if more are required or not. But the bar joists seem to not deflect at all so far. I credited you with that tip in the description. Thanks again Tony.
I went back and saw the trailer build good job 👍
Hahahaha...thanks Mike. I put the playlist of the trailer build on the other comment, but here it is again: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
Cool glad I got to see the Frontier in action. Nice job on your cedar boards.
Thanks man. They did turn out pretty good for being the first log on the mill. Take Care and thanks for watching.
That video was a pleasure to watch.
Hahahaha....It IS kinda slick ain't it... LOL. But I guess its not nice to brag on oneself is it....LOL But it was also a pleasure to have the help I had that day as well !! (-:
I bought some cedar lumber to trim Barb's portable bldg. It is western cedar which doesn't have that brilliant red color in it. Has a bit more of a brown tint. Still very sharp looking but not the show stopper that stuff you are sawing is.
Enjoyed the full walk along with you Wendel. Good job.
We don't have western cedar down this way but there are tons and tons of red cedar. There are cedar glades here that contain nothing but red cedar. Thanks for the nice words and for taking the time to follow along with the build Gary.
Looks like your trailer and mill came together real good!
Yessir, I think I got lucky on this one. LOL
very nice job you deserve a cup of coffee for this one ps the catwalk works nice👌
My neighbor happened to give me 16 deck boards off of a bridge rehab project his company did. These are 3 1/2''x12''x16' so I just took two of the worst ones and tossed them there to walk on. Worked fine too Jeffrey !!
Wow!!! She works like a champ man!!!! You've got some beautiful cedar there!! I can smell that being cut from here 😊👍 and I must say your advice is worth much more than a cup of Tim Hortons 😜 great video man!
Thanks Andrew for the nice words man. I don't know....but my advice wouldn't stand a chance against Tim Horton's if you toss in the box of Tim Bits....LOL. Notice the slabs being thrown off the top....right next to the pile for the buzz saw !! LOL
@@tractorman4461 that's smart production right there!! And don't sell yourself short man I love your words of wisdom and I know myself and many others are thankful to have you share your thoughts here sir! Stay Awesome!!
Congrats! A great addition to the inventory of tools and equipment. Enjoyed the build. I purchased a 1987 WM LT40 Hydraulic that I have mechanically restored over the last couple of years. Doesn't look as pretty as yours, but it now works great!!!
Wood Miser is a mill of far superior quality over these 'entry' level machines. But with the limited use mine will see, I couldn't justify the greater cost. I'm sure Steve, that yours is now in fine operating shape. As you've seen in some of my other videos, this machine is the only shiny one I own...so there's nothing wrong with a little rust or as the restorers say...'patina'. LOL
Counter clockwise is down. Clockwise is up. Reverse your lifting cable winding. Right now you’re turning against the brake. I did the same thing. Fixed it and now it’s a joy to lift and lower.
Thanks for the tip. You gotta admit though that some of those details are kinda hard to pull out of the manual with the pictures and description they have. I will double check as you suggest. I'm assuming you too have a Frontier...??
Yessir! OS23. I’m the guy who also put my side plates on upside down! 😂
@@toothandnailsawmill102 hahahaha…. I remember that comment. I must be following the path you took !! LOL I am really tickled with it so far but I’ve not sawed any hardwoods yet.
Great to see you both running the band saw. That is the largest Ceder I have ever seen. Here in Southeast Tennessee. It would take maybe two lifetimes or more, for one to grow that big . Wish shipping wasn't has high as it is now. I would love to buy some boards that wide. Outstanding Job ! All my very best.
We have some pretty sizeable cedars up this way Bobby. On the old home place back in the 70's we cut a cedar grove that netted tons of 1''x16''x10'. And of course many times that in 6'', 8'', and 10'' material. I lined the Missus huge walk in closet in red cedar all tongue and grooved by she and I plus a few year back I lined a 228 sq ft four season room in red cedar. And there's a big area I finished in the basement with 45* angles of cedar as well as a wall waist high with a shelf all from just a part of what was left over from the 70's. And I still have a few hundred board feet of the smaller stuff left yet today from back then.
I've got about 15 or so cedars to cut for another old friend later this winter or early spring. There'll be a couple upwards of 16'' or so there too. Thanks Bobby for the visit my friend !!
Pretty cool video series. Looks like it operates really smooth. 👍👍👍
Yes, and surprisingly easy to push through the log. As long as the blade is in good shape. Next thing I gotta come up with is a way to sharpen these blades. They are only good for about 600 board feet of hardwood as I understand.
Thankz for sharing Mrs 44!
She said she really enjoyed using the mill too. So I am sure she will be involved with some sawing in the future as well. Thanks Mike for the visit and taking the time to comment.
Thank you so much sir I’m going to get os27 you have shared a tune of stuff
Cool, I hope some of the videos have helped you in your decision. Have you seen the trailer build and mill assembly playlist yet? If not here its all in one place for you:ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
Thanks for another great video 👍👍🇺🇸
Thanks Tony !! Glad you found it entertaining and thanks for the comment.
hi there looking real nice john
Thanks John...its the first thing I bought new since 1982 I think. LOL
Wendell, that was nice of. You to test your wife’s new toy for her!🤣😂🤣😂! That cedar looked beautiful, and that saw runs like a champ! Surprised you went with a “Briggs & Stratton” engined unit over a Honda or some other power plant, but none the less it looks like it was a wise choice! Have fun with the new toy, and thanks fo the reminder about surroundings!
I couldn't choose the brand, just the horsepower. I upgraded in hp and with the electric start option. I would've LOVED to have a Honda or Kawasaki on it. If I built one myself...which I almost did, I was toying with the idea of powering it with a 600 cc Yamaha in line four. That would've made it scream and have more power than it would ever need.
@@tractorman4461 I actually prefer Kawasaki and Honda over Briggs myself, and possibly a predator( being that it is a Honda clone engine)
@@thesmallwoodlot433 Yes, either one will do. B&S is a good engine, but they can't hold a candle to the Honda and Kaw's....in my ipinion.
@@tractorman4461 the carburation seems to be their downfall,
Great job. I like the height👍 for yourself on your property, if ya want you could dig a small ditch to accept the trailer tires. That way you wouldn’t have to remove them and maybe get it a bit lower. Just a thought. You do you friend🙂 also sawing with sandy’s channel is a great source. He warns you’ll probably hit those back stops... and has advice on how not too. Also he’s installed a laser to help ya get the most out of your cuts. A real nice upgrade in my opinion 😎 keep on tractor’n tractorman
Now a laser sounds like a great idea. I've not seen that yet. I will go check him out...thanks for the tip !! And yes, I've thought about carrying a shovel with me for that reason. The good thing about removing the tires though, is it makes it much more difficult to be stolen. There's always trailers, deckovers and goosenecks, stolen in this rural area. This rig might be a temptation. Dunno though. Thanks again for the tip on Sandy.
I'm glad you showed us 'everything' here in the processes involved in making this mill 'work' for you Wendell.
I can see a few modification that you can easily make on this mill, and I'm guessing that you are more than likely thinking along similar lines.
You mentioned that the blade will cut through some grit that, no doubt, will be in the bark of these logs, what do you plan on doing with that issue? A debarking attachment maybe?
I enjoyed all of these video, and I hope we get to see more lumber coming off this mill.
I `tip my hat` to you!
I don't think my I'll be sawing enough to justify a debarking setup, but I do plan on coming up with my own rig for sharpening the blades, so I can get two or three times the life out of them. Like we did on the circle mill, the obvious areas where excessive grit can be spotted, I'll just knock off the bark with a double bit. We try to be careful when handling logs in the field, and I think I will stress a little more care to keep them off the ground from cutting to the bunks. Now with forks on a couple tractors and the skidloader, we CAN minimize the time on the ground. I'm glad you enjoyed the series Reg. Thanks for following it all the way through. And yes, there will be more milling coming up....
Awesome machine 👍 Nice work sir!
Thanks Andy. Appreciate your time watching. And I am going to take the skidloader injection pump in for a rebuild. Hopefully this week. I need it bad right now...but ain't that always the case.
@@tractorman4461 that’s how it always goes!
Yes sir that’s some pretty lumber ❤💪
Lots of material has gone through it since this video too !! I enjoy it immensely.
@@tractorman4461 yes sir I love mine I got to cut some cedar God bless brother
You did a fantastic job on the assembly of the mill and build of the trailer! If you were closer, I've got some nice seasoned black walnut you could cut on shares. (If you wanted some).
Doc
Heck yeah, walnut is one of my favorite materials for the shop !! How far from St Louis Mo. are you ? Thanks for the compliment on the rig Martin.
@@tractorman4461 540 miles northwest of you.
@@martinbenton742 LOL....yep...about 500 miles too far. Doggone it anyway !!
Wendell time you get through with that SAWMILL it will be, Wendlerized = Perfect shape.
Hahahahaha....Now Tom, don't give me too much credit...remember I had the Missus giving me direction on the project. LOL
@@tractorman4461 i saw she made a cameo appearance showing how easy you made it to saw a log.
You probably bribed her with a cedar closet Or Chest.
Great video
Thank you. I've been running it for some while now and am still enjoying the little mill.
Cant wait to get mine ordered 2 days ago. I have red cedars like that I'm siding my barn .
That's awesome Tim. Did you order the OS27 or the 31 ? I made several videos about building a trailer and assembling the machine. I used old commercial bar joists to build my trailer and it worked very well for a full three section 21' mill. ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html You might find something to help you in the assembly videos. I had a tough time following the book. But that was just me I think.
@@tractorman4461 I ordered the os27 I'm building my trailer from a old boat trailer and 2 I beams with 4 hydraulic levers . I have experience building the conveyor systems in auto plants . I was a ironworker for 40 yr. So shouldn't have much trouble .
@@timlawson817 oh heck no you'll have no trouble at all. I'm a retired pipefitter commercial service tech. I like the hydraulic levelers idea. I've already got some ideas for a few changes too. I kinda wish I'd have went with the OS31, just because the added width would minimize trimming burls off to make it to where the saw head clears the logs from one end to the other with the first two cuts. Sometime longer logs that are curved a bit gives an issue too. Four inches would make a big difference I think now.
The wife handled it like a boss! And, you can get a senior coffee at McDonald's for fifty cents! What type of blade coolant do you plan to run in that tank? Will it have some type of anti gumming agent in it for wood high in resin?
Probably water unless it freezing, then a little RV anti freeze...Some guys run a bit of Pine Sol I think in the water. It keeps from freezing and cuts the resin at the same time. But I don't really know yet for sure. I'm researching that right now Matt, but the Missus suggests Simple Green or Dawn.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO STARTING ( NICE LOOKING LADY using your sawmill 🌹👍👌😉) Very well detail explanations Sir, ( love your Tim Horton's writing comments ! ) Emergency button Check Sir !!! LOL So do you like more the saw than a circular saw ? Practice make perfect !!! No Sir, I will look your hard working and keep the nice looking lady for dessert 😉🌹 Very nice looking board Sir ! I hope that your OUTSTANDING video will make GP the move to buy one !!! ; ) It must be very well smelling wood ! Great looking lady walking over your wooden path 🌹👍😉 Cheers !!!
I do think you just made the Missus blush with all that sweet talk Dave....you sly devil you. What they call smooth talkers like you down in this neck of the woods is a 'lady killer'..... But that's to be taken in a GOOD way. You're like my Much Older Brother....the ladies melt at your feet soon as you guys flash those pearly whites !! With me, they usually scream and run away...... LOL. But thank you for all the nice things and yes I AM a lucky guy. Not only is she hard working, she's smart AND she's an excellent cook !!
@@tractorman4461IT is Outstandingly fun to read you lucky man !!! Cheers !!! lol ; )
Wendell you need to make you a little platform for the you start on so you can crank that handle easier. Maybe a wood pallet. How many spare blades did you get? I would probably need a half dozen. Great video, I really enjoyed it.
Yes, this being the 'first run' I found a few things that need to be improved on and that was one of them. Just a few inches is all I need too. Not a crazy amount. I got a pack of 10 blades plus the one shipped on it Rick. But soon I will work on a way to grind the blades for a second or third use.
@@tractorman4461 Belsaw has a rig to sharpen bandaw blades that might fit your 1055 grinder.
It is a set of guides to track the blade in front of the wheel similar to a chainsaw grinder.
A talented young man like yourself could raid your scrap bin and cobble up one in an afternoon. 😁
@@OldSneelock You know, I have seen one of those in an illustration but not firsthand. I'm sure I will come up with something but I don't know what yet. LOL IIRC, the Norwood group wants like $750.00 for theirs.
A Fine job indeed and I Thank the 44Crew for a graphic view of this cedarific display! I must say that Missus 44 was a whole lot prettier than Tractorman44 , no offense of course. I can see it all now: Missus 44 LumberYard, Fine Quality and Fine Woods! Now 44 Friend Wendell, if you’d wear that sheer tutu of yours it would attract far more viewers. I raise me CuppaJO your way from my holler to yours! And how about making some posters of Missus 44 at her sawmill for we woodworkers to have a pin up girl for our workshops? This is DaveyJO and I’m headin to me JOpot for another toast your way! A FINE 44 Vid of the highest quality!
Hahahahahaha....DaveyJO, you never cease to amaze me with your dazzling words my friend !! But I sure agree with you that the Missus is for sure a WHOLE lot prettier than me. No one can accuse ME of winning no beauty contest....the Missus even hides my mirrors so I won't scare myself !! Good woman she is. And yes, I am a lucky man !! Take care ol' buddy and I'll be sippin' and tippin' your direction in the morning !!
Nice sawmill. Btw, have you ever used some so called chainsaw mills? Alaskan chainsaw mill, Logosol Timberjig etc. What to you think about them?
No, I haven't even seen an Alaskan chainsaw mill other than on youtube. My understanding is they run a special grind on the chain. And if they dull to any extent, I think you really have to work to make lumber. My favorite has always been a circle mill....so I'm remaining a bit skeptical about the bandsaw yet.
Now that you have some years of experience with this sawmill, can you offer any advice about a problem my brother is having with the same model as yours? His problem is that the sawdust continues to build up inside the blade/belt cover and does not discharge out of the chute to the outside. There is no blockage in the chute all - it stays clean and wide open. We have experimented with adjusting the water drip from minimal to maximum but it changes nothing in regards to this problem. He primarily saws cedar and old pine, not much hardwood available to him.
Mine did exactly the same thing and the way I minimized it was to take side cutters and clip out all of the guard material from the opening. It’s still plugs up however to an extent around the opening but more of it definitely goes out. It also balls up around the micro switches in the center. What I do is make about 10 cuts then open one of the doors and blow everything out with the leaf blower. The moisture content of green material causes it to pack itself in the corner near the chute opening. And in exceptionally dry wood, the lubricant contributes to that as well. It’s only a minor issue as long as you keep a leaf blower handy.
Did you build the trailer? Good video 👍
Yes Mike, and I saw your next comment where you found the answer. Here's the playlist if you'd like to see more: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1ue1qK_JUYgFoJ2ENbV7VVs.html
The Frontier comes with a manual. What's a manual? Thxs for the vids!
Hahahahaha....yeah, me too. I hate reading and trying to figure out what they are trying to say. That's what the Missus is for.... LOL Thanks David for the smile.
Did your eletric start saw come with battery included?
Yes, it sure did. I had a hard time finding the key....it was tossed into the battery box !! Just an FYI if you are considering the purchase.
May I know the prices of the mill? And how many horsepower does it have?
It was about $4000 including shipping. It is a 13 hp electric start gasoline engine.
Did you have a home made saw mill at one point?
No, I had a Belsaw that I just sold a few months ago Eddy...but I DO have another home built mill back in the woods that's not assembled....Plus parts to a few others and another complete circle mill with 3-71 Detroit for power.
@@tractorman4461 wow you quite the collection it must be the circle saw remember
@@eddygoodwin7089 Probably so, I did put up a couple videos here and a couple on my son in law's channel.
@@eddygoodwin7089 Here's one of the videos on my son in laws channel:ua-cam.com/video/x2NMojV5BG8/v-deo.html and here is another one with him running it: ua-cam.com/video/YSdRTKeDj0g/v-deo.html Enjoy Eddy !!
?que le paso en el dedo mano izda amigo wendall
No es nada malo. La piel de mis dedos se abre sin motivo. A veces tengo dos o tres que se rompen al mismo tiempo.
Votre cage de roulement sur le schaf est mal installées sur votre vidéo de montage.
Les cages du roulement doivent être montées tout les deux chaque côté du roulement et non avec le montant du moulin entre les cages.
Si le montant aurait deux pouces d'épais le roulement serait lousse de côté.
Je ne suis pas sûr de l'ensemble exact de roulements dont vous parlez. S'agit-il des paliers d'arbre autour desquels les câbles s'enroulent pour soulever la tête de scie ? Pouvez-vous préciser l'emplacement précis ?
Park the wheels in a hole
Hahahaha...you're the second guy to suggest that. I told him too that I was thinking of carrying a shovel along just for that reason. Thanks Greg for watching and chiming in with the suggestion !!