Warcraft 1 - Original vs Remaster (1994 vs 2024) Comparison
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2024
- Yesterday Blizzard also released a remaster of the first Warcraft (Orcs & Humans, 1994). The controls are much better, but the developers have hardly put any effort into the graphics. The intro in particular is an outrage: just fired up an AI upscaler and let it render... What do you think?
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#warcraft #warcraftremaster #warcraft1 #warcraft1remaster #warcraftremastered
they use AI didn't they?
It has all the hallmarks of a terrible AI job.
They first hired incompetent people.
@@MorMacFey-v2g It was done by 3 people lol. Granted, they did what they could with only 3 of them but still. No QC
Nope, they were using the usual upscale algos.
@@heroicxidiot This isn't a selling point. At the end of the day one person, or three hundred people, the job is still terrible or good... this is terrible. I've seen a third of one person put in more effort without being paid at all...
Was it my imagination or were the animations of the loading screens cut out? 😮
Yep, they are cut.
Ai couldnt do them.
They couldn't animate them with AI generation :)
@@ASHFAR578 That's the thing, even AI can do it already...
@@Kh0rnet You realize that doesn't make sense, right? If they could animate the units, then the briefing screen shouldn't be a problem either. They're both like 3 sprites each.
What? No animations in the mission briefings? And the lvl ending summaries...yuck.
Sloppy AI remaster.
Didn't even bother to animate the fire in the briefing.
Yeah. Yeesh, that's ugly. D:
They didn't bother to animate ANYTHING in the briefings, wtf is this garbage, its like reforged all over again
True.
Missing fire animation, missing intro animation, Moiré effects in the cut scenes and overall no real significant changes?
Sheesh... and now they expect me to pay like the third time (orignal floppy disc, GOG version) for the same game? Easy pass.
0:42 lower skulls ahahah
people who made this "remaster" have NO CLUE what true value this game has. It looks like it was redone by AI but simpler than original where this AI was not able to generate content properly. Simple cash grab relying on nostalgia and good memories.
Original looks better, the only thing it needs is better controls (right click actions)
And better group controls.
cant believe that, they sell ai shit..
1:42 worker's animation offsets are fcked up because frames was ai upscaled and just reupload... They dont even test this
Ah, that's exactly what I was thinking. I also saw the human archer walking animation in other video and looks as awful.
It can do better. Put back in the animation cuts. And were is the world map?
Missing animations (briefing, victory), AI upscaled videos with defects (damn, that ugly fire), sprite animations got much worse (look at the human peasant cutting down trees, it's like each frame has no relation with the prior one, did an artist even work on them or they were also AI upscaled?). Blizzard used to be one of my fave companies when I was a kid, every game they released felt like it was done with love, but WC3 Reforged release, now this, they've become one of the worst.
Both remastered versions of Warcraft now look like mobile games. Do you guys not have phones?
even mobile games look better than whatever this waste of disk space is
I guess it was to be expected after what they did to WC3 with Reforged. It shows more and more that the actual talent and the acutally skilled people are not working for Blizz anymore. Like so many other studios it is just a bunch of skeletons in a skinsuit masquerading as the studio.
how the actual fuck did they approve this
Some money-grubbing ghoul in a suit at Microsoft. People who are in charge of these "projects" see video games like basic goods, similar to milk, potatoes, butter, etc. Not a spark of care, just emptiness.
Some things should remain pixelated. This just doesn't look very good to me. The designs of the assets are like that because they were limited in pixels. Simply up-ressing them to smooth sprites does not make them look better, it makes them look worse because you have robbed the designs of their context. I think the briefing room scene looks alright, but thats about it.
The briefing room looks like it's not animated, seems like it's just a still frame. Not sure.
The units and structures were redrawn. I get what you're saying but the old version looks extremely pixelated on a large monitor. To each their own but I prefer the new assets even though some of the feel of the old version is lost in the remaster. I wonder if some kind of pixelation filter could have been used over the new art.
@@solitude7566 Seems more like they threw everything into an AI generator and had it guess what it saw. Nothing was redrawn. It couldn't read all the animations so it had to skip some frames on some, making it look off-place.
Human workers have 3 frames when chopping, and they're all displacing the character, making it look even choppier (no pun intended).
Some introt has literally entire ships disappearing cuz the AI didn't see them. Water elemental design is completely changed cuz the breasts are mistaken for eyes by the AI. The gryphon rider is given pants because that's what the AI saw.
Compare this to the StarCraft remaster and you'll probably get why people feel let down by this "remaster".
@@lucklesscope8367 I can't comment on the WC2R stuff you're bringing up since I'm only talking about the content in this video. I haven't loaded up 2 yet. IMO 1R is easily an upgrade visually over the original. I think it looks fine.
@@solitude7566 My comment is not exclusively aimed at WC2 only, I'm talking about both as a whole since both went through the same process.
It's the reason why some of us are not happy. SC and Diablo 2 remaster took a different approach.
If you prefer these new designs and looks, more power to you. If you think it looks fine, that good. You share your opinion and I share mine.
I prefer the original.
yikes. the AI upscaling is doing a terrible job here... those hollow stone walls
Demake
If a fan wants to do a better version of this, i will draw all the art myself
Do they pay the AI for doing a bad job?
man...they just dont get it... *sigh*
I liked it at first glance, but now the more I look at it the worse it becomes.
I'd rather still play the original in Dosbox.
another censored slop and made with ai. can blizzard just perish already?
The remastered versions just dropped out of nowhere. I had no clue this was coming. No advertisements or anything that brings attention to it that I'm aware of.
I have no idea why they did it. It looks and feels bad, it was released out of nowhere and it's obvious that their main focus of the last 10-20 years is in making money from WoW. Why making cheap and lazy remasters for games they didn't care about?
Yeah I figured it'd be some time before we saw them when I heard about it, but you can tell they came out so fast because they used some shitty upscaling AI and called it a day.
Of course there was no advertisement, some intern realized you can upscale a jaypeg with AI and Blizz decided to sell this idea for 40 bucks.
the answer is always : money. Bottom of the barrel budget + these days companies think that people interested in buying it will be informed it exists eventually, so why inject money in any advertisement.
The original looks more alive and warm. The remaster looks crispy, but cheap and artificial. Sad that it will not released for Mac (
The original pixelated version objectively looks better.
New in-game graphics look good to me! I'd forgotten how much I played WC2 before SC came out. This looks like it could be fun to revisit :)
The gameplay looks basically like I remember it. But then again I’m old enough to have played WC1 & 2 back in the ORIGINAL original Warcraft Battle Chest days, so my memory of ~30 years ago is a bit fuzzy 😂
WTF?!?!?! Four years ago C&C and Red Alert were remastered and it's a masterpiece! Here come these... and they do a job like this!?
In-game sprites & UI look good and the briefing screen looks fine but lost animations. Cutscenes look like they went through bad AI processing though...
Better than the initial release of Reforged, but worse than StarCraft Remastered which was perfect imo.
this is fucking depressing. please leave old games alone instead of ruining them lol
I like the new look. I guess I'm weird. They do lose points for not animating the fire place in the briefing but that's a minor point IMO.
I honestly don't see much of the problem. Other than the slightly animated characters on the briefing screen and the animation on the victory screen everything else looks good.
The in game art still looks like the classic art style just less pixelated and easier on the eyes. The fact that the mouse and keyboard controls and control groups have been brought into the 21st century alone makes it worth it and if you want to look at fuzzy pixelated art the just use the toggle switch.
Guys we have to stop the remaster trend, if you're going to do something let it be a remake, this is so sad
Laziest cash grab in gaming history.
ai might unironically crash the gaming market...
Ths has cheap sloppy AI upscale written all over it. The original version looks better in every way.
delusion
@@porcu12345 Shill/Bot.
Look at the peasant chopping animation at the end. Laughable.
@@porcu12345 delusion? Open your eyes, it's pretty clear as they didn't even bother trying to fix what came out wrong. The only reason they do these cashgrabs is because the average consumer is dumb.
Looks like shit. No animations for loading screens....
Blizzard please fire the idiots and bring back the people who know how to make games.👎
Well, they removed half of the animations for some reason... The units used to spin around and whatnot, now they just stand totally still... why...
I had such a look of disappointment on my face the whole time
Just tell me how many units I can select at once. Only thing I care about.
12
They added hot key and group selection as well as right click to move group or hot key “a” for attack. I honestly feel this could have been better. Chains of Conquest I will definitely look forward to when that releases.
Another disgraceful action by Blizzard. How disappointing. The saving grace of this "remaster" is that you can play with the old graphics.
I wish they would remaster or remake the Settlers series 1-4 like this.
Briefings and result screens are worse, but the gameplay side of things looks better, however: how many units can you select and issue orders to at one time? Warcraft 1 would allow you to select 4 units. Is that still the case or has it been increased? The biggest issue I personally had with Warcraft 1 and 3 (haven't played 2) was the fact you couldn't select more then 4/12 units at a time. You could work around them in some ways, but it was still annoying to deal with.
You can choose 12 and right click to move. That's the only improvement. Sprites do look HD but if you look at the animation frames they actually got worse (for example when they compare the human peasant cutting down trees in this same video)
@@LordXelion I actually got a closer look playing 1 remastered and now I just keep it in classic graphics. The mechanical improvements to gameplay like Right-click commands and control groups and other additions are enough for me to say its worth the price of admission, but not a fan of the missing briefing and results animations and the AI Upscaling.
i like the graphic of the gameplay on the remaster more, but everything else i would say that the original is better (and i'm saying this with no bias since i never played this game).
The new one looks so much worse ahah
There's a reason why these are classic games. The modern take on it is just sloppy and lazy.
really disappointed to see the video intro is literally just AI up-scaling...I've heard some of the building icons and interface assets in WC1 and WC2 Remastered are also just AI upscaled. Really lazy.
They should have made a new RTS game about the first and second war, with the updated lore from WoW. Is it really that hard to do for Blizzard?
World of Warcraft's lore is awful and they would be wise to avoid doing what you've suggested here.
@The_Toxic_Avenger well, we like it or not, that's the canon and release a game with no updated content it just mess it up more
@@luisfigueroaflores1053 No it doesn't. It's the job of subsequent games to adhere to what was already established, not the other way around. Warcraft 1 and 2 should remain untainted by World of Warcraft's foolish mistakes.
@@The_Toxic_Avenger you're right, new lore should be consistent with old lore, but Blizzard doesn't care about it. Why would anyone expect something diferent? Anyway, in the hypothetical case of a new rts game, WoW's players would probably be the ones who jump to that game and play it, so in that case, WoW's lore would be relevant.
Are cleaner graphics the only feature?
Cleaner graphics. Meanwhile, those skulls at 0:40
Looks like they did the absolute bare minimum. It’ll get a sub 50 review rating and make a little profit for their shareholders so they don’t care.
More pixels. That's it? Remaster should imply more imo. Better controls, gameplay, etc. This isn't Warcraft remastered, it's Warcraft HD (barely).
the blatant use of AI is pathetic. no shame whatsoever
Lol, cheap and ugly AI upscaling. Didn't expect anything else.
They put pants on the Dwarven Gryphon Rider...
My men. Can you do Assassin's Creed series?
Years ago I thought about comparing the Assassin's Creed bosses, but the games are so numerous and extensive that I gave up after two games...
The black outlines are horrible.
oh i tghought the remaster will have better graphics, not smoothened the same graphics
They replaced the pixels with sprites so... it's not the same graphics....
Holy hell this looks bad in 16:9. Put this video in a player that supports forced aspect-ratio (vlc, mpv) and force it to 4:3. It's especially noticeable in the cutscenes where everything looks like bad FOV problems, and the scroll text. Or at 1:48 where the banners are supposed to have circles on them. Why didn't they modify the graphics and gameplay for 16:9 or 16x10?
The pre-rendered videos look terrible, but the rest looks pretty good to me 🤷🏻♂️
Dejaron por fuera muchos detalles del juego. Los veteranos saben a que me refiero.
This is a great comparison video that grabs all the key differences.
I prefer the remaster simply because the gameplay of the original is too pixelated today, especially on my 32" monitor. I do wish they would have kept the animated briefing graphic and mission outros. The redone cutscenes actually look worse. Some of the feel of the original is lost with the new unit artwork since it has more of a cartoony look to it but overall I still like it.
edit- forgot to mention the controls which are waaay better now.
Honestly, if all they did was improve the controls, that's all I was really asking for regarding WAR1. Anything else is window dressing
this makes gta trilogy remaster looks like goty in comparison, they dont bother to remake old RTS game with simple mechanics, just throw it in WC3 jeez the game is short anyway, even indie developer bother to remade Wasteland 1
Wtf is this? Are they even testing these things? Look at the peasant chopping animation! It's completely off scale.
I .. think this was'nt handpainted. It wouldnt be the first time Blizzard lied about stuff and the way theyre set up now it wouldnt surprise me they would just use ai and cash in. If theyd really hired artist for this, it would be more expensive.
Ufff... it's disgusting! I prefer the original.
Cool game
Looks incredibly lazy, like they deployed the free version of an AI for the artworks.
No sound improvement :/
C&C remastered looks better than this
So its a lazy cash grab.
existiendo muchas herramientas de ia ni siquiera se tomaron la molestia de utilizarlas
En realidad se nota que usaron IA, pero mal.
Fíjate en la intro del inicio cuando hacen zoom en la puerta con antorchas, el fuego tiene unas líneas amorfas que solamente una IA como dezgo o krea hace.
@@cristhianferreyra1563 Le merieron un filtro re pedorro de IA, No digo que rehicieran las cinematicas de nuevo... peeeeero habría sido un mejor producto final
@@Vanter. Habría sido mejor que rehicieran las cinemáticas con modelos nuevos o algo así. Es que vamos, he visto videos mejores hechos por fans que esto.
Y sobre IAs no se cuál habrán usado, yo pienso que usaron krea, es la más barata y rápida.
I’d prefer someone to remaster fallout 1 and 2 this way
too complex death animation sprites, and character sprites at all. Ai cant do this now
Looks like the lowest of low effort went into this cash grab.
I hope they at least modernized the UI a bit
Gameplay-wise the remaster looks neater and better in general. Yet those cutscenes/intros were very lazy-made in the remaster - nor fire neither dudes' speech was animated, and the very intro section feels like it was AI-scaling (especially if you look at castle walls). Still, the warchest cost like $33 in my country, and for that, I'll have wc1, wc2, wc3 (+ ability to install gorgeous wc2 orc campaign and lord of the clans mods on it), and silly yet cool WoW mount. Soooo, why not?
You and your kind ruin the industry
AI lazy trash vs beautiful hand crafted pixel art. Gotta love the "future" man. And this hatred versus pixels needs to be abolished.
While I agree on the lazy AI trash, that pixel fuzz looks like crap on modern monitors. "Graphics don't matter" only goes so far, and pixel fuzz is just so ugly. SC remastered is a clear example of how much better old pixelated games look when done right.
Omg I thought to buy this since I loved this game but this is the most lazy remastering ever I have seen! 😂
So they’re exactly the same except the fireplace in the original is animated? Lol
Between $10 and $15 dollars for this?, and they still sell the originals instead of making them free?, which are $6 dollars and $10 dollars respectively for Warcraft 1 and 2.
Before they sold Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty, now it is free to play, the same with the original Starcraft, but now Hearth of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void are $40 dollars, Warcraft III Reforged is $30 dollars, then Starcraft Remastered is $15, the Carboot texture pack is $10 dollars, the 9 Nova missions from Starcraft 2 from its Nova Ops expansion are $9.50.
The 3 crappy missions from Overwatch 2 from its story mode and pve, are $15 dollars.
And this, which was put through a damn AI filter,
at $10 for Warcraft 1, and $15 for Warcraft 2.
Blizzard, aren't you a little too hungry, or do I think? Is it you or Activision? Or is it not you Blizzard, or Activision, is it actually Microsoft? Because if not, it's hard to understand how you can be so hungry.
You are one step closer to understanding how the entirety of the world works, and has worked, forever and always will.
Step 1: Have wealth and power.
Step 2: Find something people like, and either acquire ownership of it, or copy and replace/remove the competitor.
Step 3: Drastically lower cost of production by any means necessary, jack up cost of use once competition ceases to exist OR if there's enough brand recognition.
Step 4: Ride the cult train for as long as possible.
Religions, Governments, Games, Marriage, everything.
Aesthetically it reminds me of a game called SOVL that admits it uses AI for it's artwork. It's so lazy and soulless compared to the original.
Original
So many clueless... individuals ranting about "AI crap". You guys have no idea , right? Right. Look up "DOSbox upscale" or smth like that and stop spitting nonsense.
the Game looks better ,but the rest not.
I'm not defending blizzard but the game is 10$. People truly were expecting a full remake like D2R or something?
I think removing animations from the briefing and victory screens is indefensible, full stop. Should have just left the graphics alone if they were going to be that lazy.
You are defending blizzard if you think a downgrade (or even a sidegrade) is worth any kind of money.
@crepooscul 1. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything and 2. The original game is still there. Get over it and move on.
Bon, c'est extrêmement mauvais dans l'ensemble et très faignant. J'ai lancé le jeu aujourd'hui et en terme d'amélioration de confort à part pour les options j'ai pas vu grand chose.
La cinématique est dégueulasse, on peut pas faire pire à mon avis.
L'écran de chargement qui dans l'ensemble est plus joli (choix artistique mis de côté) que l'original se retrouve amputé de toutes ses animations. Pareillement pour l'écran Victory.
En revanche pour moi c'est presque un sans faute pour la partie graphique in-game, tout est plus clair et plus agréable qu'avant. C'est malgré tout le plus important mais bon ça vaut pas le coût de payer à nouveau si on l'avait déjà avant pour ça.
J'ai pas vérifié dans les options si on pouvait supprimer les objectifs, j'espère que c'est possible. D'ailleurs quand on en réussit un, rien ne vient confirmer qu'on l'a réussi... C'est dommage.
Blizzard fait vraiment un travail de faignant depuis Reforged concernant la trilogie Warcraft (le reste je sais pas je joue pas).
Blizzard went to shit awhile ago.....this is embarrassing tbh
Remaster 😊👍
terrible remake, how sad
Wc1 had a massive graphical overhaul while the wc2 remaster looks pretty much the same. lol
Stop giving this awful company money ffs
Not worth money..
Kind of a shame they took out the animations during the briefings :(
Ai халтура
AHAHAHAHAHA
Мммда, ну и говнище, проще дальше в оригинал играть
Still looks like shit. Should have made WC I and II in the style of Warcraft III remastered.
Barely any difference! Laughable!
Love how AI is giving new life to old games
Imagine what we'll have in 10 years? Some random AI with a $20 month sub will generate you any A to AAA game as per your prompt haha? (likely not, but maybe)
Yeah, if by "life" you mean unearthing a rotten carcass.
If you think that StarCraft was a lazy remaster than check this piece of crap.