oh i know some more adds tha like to help that game. chain production. better GUIs. i testet this morning a WC2 custom campoin in Wc3 and i was much better then then WC2. but sadly it is a broken campain by now....i came jsut to the second mission bc it can be collected wood
Lordaeron is up in Eastern Kingdoms. The kingdom that was called Azeroth in WC2 is the Kingdom of Stormwind. There was also Kingdom of Gilneas, Kingdom of Stromgarde and Kingdom of Alterac bordering Lordaeron.
I thought Azeroth was the entire continent, which they changed to The Eastern Kingdoms when they decided the whole world was to be called Azeroth. It's even got Azeroth written over it in the biggest font in the original cinematic for WoW. The font size for Khaz Modan comes close, but I'm pretty sure Azeroth is still writ bigger and appears sooner to juxtapose the name of Kalimdor.
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Warcraft 1 and 2 didn't tell much of a story in cutscenes But this remake mod did These modders are doing better than Blizzard
@@joseffranz3872 well we got to remember that these people do it all for free and during their freetime. Thats why its rare to see such high quality such as this and Black Mesa for example
I disagree, this only compares the original game cutscenes to the versions in the remake. The modders in the remake have way more cutscenes here and they go on FOREVER. It is the definition of expository lore dumps. I don't feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm dealing with an interactive Wikipedia writeup. Furthermore, the OG CG is way better then what's on display here given what tech they had. The CG has that early 90s look that is unique for what it is. The lighting is really bad in the new remake. The tomb scene looks awful.
To be honest, I prefer the originals. The character models might be incredibly dated, but in terms of cinematography/shot composition, the originals cut scenes are far better.
@@ElPeppito Lol its still professional, I just think their direction is different. Quality probably mattered a lot more back then given lack of sufficient animation and fluid gameplay.
Intro is just not the same without Bill Roper's iconic narration. Also, I liked originak soundtrack much better. It's the most impressive thing I saw made in Reforged nonetheless.
Well, hard to say, because original cinematics been render animations and Remake ones - in-game engine. Original’s is more movie like, and Remake’s is pretty immersive.
I like the classic original when warcraft was dark and gritty and trying to be serious. The horde was evil and didn't need some backstop and motivation. They saught the downfall of man and man just wanted to survive. Orcs didn't have feelings. They just zug zug.
Well they were possessed by demon blood, so there is that... While the Orcs did seek more power(hence the blood), they weren't complete savages either. Orcs never straight up slaughtered each other before either, like when you straight up overthrow Blackhand. Orcs believe in honour, and under normal circumstances there would of been Mak'Gora to determine the new Warchief. While I do agree that orcs are too soft now, I do like that they were never actually mindless drones.
@dragoonofdarkness1826 war with Honour, not just storming cities and wiping out the civilians. Orcs believed Combat was a sign of strength and power. War to them was a competition, not just mindless killing.
Dragonflight's version of this would probably be a whole scene where the king laments the fall of his kingdom and then one of his subjects shouts, "Together!!!, for Azeroth"
Warcraft 2 was my first entry to the fantasy world when i was young. I loved the artwork so much, the darkness of the universe. I was so sad when warcraft 3 arrived, with the cartoon style...
Well that something we don't see often in Warcraft game: Pirate-style orcs. Just like in the Warcraft 2 box art along with a Imperial-style human, even though the game is set in the medieval age. May be due to the new ship warfare that Warcraft 1 didn't have.
Story becomes borning if it was just Horde and Alliance fighting and fighting and fighting. They can't really develop a story till one side is wiped out or they actually make peace and understand there is far worse things out there.
Original W1 and W2 had an atmosphere that where similar to Diablo 1. More serious and mature. When it went cartoon it turned to sh. Original cinematic are better.
Well the ingame graphics of WC2 were actually already really colorful/cartoonish, it was just in the pre-rendered cinematics as well as Metzen's drawings where the artstyle was darker and more close to Diablo
@@Balnazzardi I had no problem with ingame graphics in wc2. They did not brake atmosphere for me. Even WC3 was good for me, but that was wen cartoon look started. I think they went from games for grown up audience to kids. You cant portray a serious theme with cartoon characters. All that Styrofoam swords and cartoon armor destroyed the atmosphere. Turned it to TV novella for kids.
@@harbinger200 Bruh, I would not say kids is the audience target. There is a reason his game is 13+ for teenagers and adults. You can't say that the style alone changes the audience. You can still show a serious theme with the style WoW has now.
Como se extraña cuando Warcraft era una historia era mas sencilla. Orco vs humanos Paladines de luz 🌟 vs adoradores de demonios, hechiceros y eso 😈 Ojala hagan un remake del 1 y el 2
It is truly amazing that more money, and bigger studio does not make for better quality. The animations in the original just seem to look better as well. I will give you that it all looks dated but it still looks far more epic and grand on the scale of the fleets shown in the first, where the 2nd looks like a coastal raiding party. The remake looked rather cheap and thrown together or put out by a team of people putting out their very first game. Blizzard should just stop putting out remakes if they can not just leave the original feel of the game alone. They don't need the warcraft 3 cartoon look.
Using ingame models and the cinematic tools have its drawbacks, the camerawork is much poorer compared to the old cinematics and the animations ironically feel more stiff But I appreciate what is accomplished, though if possible it might be better for someone to animate the scenes with the ingame assets rather than use the World Editor camera and built-in unit animations
You’re asking a lot for a small passionate team and the drawbacks come from how unoptimized the game is from the Blizzard developers so the HiveWorkShop team can only work with what the engine offers and they also pushed the world editor passed it’s limits which is highly impressive considering how much the editor needs improvement and fixing.
@@vmac8972 I assumed you can insert custom cinematics into custom campaigns but if that's isn't the case the team has my condolences cause that just sucks
@@thepieofyourlife4799 on the bright side, they do have the models for a cinematic So that's like, 1 part down, the whole animating part they'll probably need to hire somebody else to do so, which would be expensive Their best bet is for someone with the experience and passion to do it for free
Personally, I still prefer the original. All the cutscenes playout like an actual movie (in glorious 480p lol) in the original, where as the remake just looks stiff, twitchy, and awkward because its just running from the game engine.
It's really cool! I will say though that one feels like a cinematic, the other feels like an in-game cutscene. But for what it is, it's great, and it serves its purpose very well.
Because that cinematic shows the fall of the Kingdom of Azeroth to the Orcish Horde. Lore-wise, the colour of Azeroth is orange. The first human mission in the game happen after Azeroth refugee migrated to Lordaeron and form the Alliance, which is why human units in that mission wear wear Lordaeron's blue. Also you have to remember that in Warcraft 2, there is only 2 human kingdom in existence, which is Azeroth and Lordaeron, so Stormgarde technically didn't exist. Due to amnesia, Blizzard renamed the Kingdom of Azeroth to Stormwind in Warcraft 3. They literally forgot the name of the kingdom and instead pick the Stormwind simply because that is the final town of Azeroth that the Alliance liberated and therefore was mentioned directly in cinematics.
@@13gan Orange was the Kingdom of Alterac. You are mistaken about there being only 2 human kingdoms. Remember how at the end of Warcraft 2 King Perenold in Alterac betrayed the humans and let the orcs pass the mountain pass, If there are only 2 human kingdoms like you said, then how was there Kul'Tiras, Gilneas and Alterac. I think you should respectfully go back and learn the lore more before commenting.
In Rise of Alliance, Horde ending would be nightmare of Lothar. And it should have tutorial mission similar to the utter darkness. Hold and kill as much orcs as possible till last of human has fallen(in late wave, Daemons would appear, and consume orcs as well).
some comments seem not to take into consideration the fact that the videos in the mod are made with the graphics and animations of the game, so inevitably they are less "realistic" and less "dark" graphically. If anything I would be surprised at the incredible result achieved...
this looks great, I still just rather play the GoG version, but nice for those that prefer the upgraded visuals. What I would like is the old cinematics redone with better visuals, but use a film grain and add a cool filter to make it look more washed out, while being a bit easier on the eyes. I am also quite fond of the old cartoon style, and with the updated version it looks good still IMO, however, this still would be nice to try regardless, just never purchased reforged yet.
Warcraft 2 holds up. It's so much fun! If they just modified the aspect ratio and resolution and modernized the controls a bit. I'd buy it just to play with friends and family
No se porq pero antes le ponian cariño a las cinematicas , las vez y no se si es la ambientacion , la musica o los buenos graficos( para ese tiempo eran graficos buenos) pero te da ganas de jugar toda la campaña
4:40 original "random demon" looks way more scary than the remake almost-human-faced cow dude. The latter is more detailed for sure, just missing the point.
THe OG movie version is better in lmost all respects (in large part because of the voice acting and smoothness of actions outside of the game engine.However the fan RM includes far more actual characters and while the looks are worse and they lack voice acting They feel more in line with the further characterization both races and their leaders gained over the course of even just War3 let alone WoW. I will say the only scene that is overall improved is the fall of Lordaeron mostly because of how much better they portrayed Teranas/the generic human king.
The choreography of the original was better. Particularly the first and final scenes. Like in the last one, on original, the Orc ran and jumped at the knight to knock him off...Savage. On remake, Orc ran up, stopped, swung axe, and knight stopped and fell over.
I prefer the originals. The remakes are more reimagined.. I would have been fine with extra details in each shot, but the shots themselves are totally different, and less cinematic. I feel as if the concept of the cutscenes is to drive the story of the game, but also to illustrate the in game world better for our imaginations. These are in game graphics as well, whereas the cutscenes of old were properly animated, and done at a lower frame rate that had the 24fps filmic look, not soap opera smooth frame-rates that make things less dramatic. Finally, the music is mixed into the background, which gives the feeling you’re still playing the game.
The new ones are pretty bad in terms of animations, camera positions, sounds and order of actions. Attack on Stromgarde: why are they loading the cannons that weird? Why is the bell sounded AFTER everyone in the military was fully prepared? Orcs being Orcs: yep, we also light up pyres by just standing next to it holding a torch. War Turtles: its okayish. Tomb of Sargeras: the demon does not charge out of the tomb and there are no battle noises... The fall of Loraeron: goofy signal to fire the catapults. Why is the king commanding the guards when it's already too late? In the original he was frightened to death and didn't react, but this?
I prefer the originals to the in game remakes, mostly due to the voice lines being gone and Terenas looks like he's going to make a final noble stand as opposed to being absolutely terrified in the original. However the Demon and Turtle ones are really well done
Orcs got a lot of characterization on the remake, only fair humans get some too. Terenas going out swinging is much more in line with his character than pathetically wimping away
To each their own. I prefer the original cinematics. I respect the fans that put alot of work into making this, but the warcraft 3 reforged engine can not compete with real cinematics imo.
Yes, you need Warcraft 3 Reforged first. Then you can download the mod for free here: www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/chronicles-of-the-second-war-tides-of-darkness.327574/
I prefer the remake. I met this universe first in Warcraft III. Warcraft II. was too cartoonish for me. So, this remake reached it's goal and told the story of Warcraft II to an other audience.
@@iusemyrealnamebefore Yeah. In Rise of alliance, it would be prologue which is Turalyon's nightmare, and this misson would be like the utter darkness in Warcraft, which endures with killing lots of orcs(and daemons in late wave) as possible until last one of human has fallen. No hero respawn. Which becomes the reason why Alliance has been assembled between human kingdoms. Turalyon realizes the need of alliance by this dream.
The cinematography of the old game was better. You can feel the dread, hopelessness, and fear in the humans. While the newer videos are too lighted, the humans look more like movie set props. The orcs look more like marauding monsters in the first game. And look too human in the new trailer. But it's just a preference.
I prefer the original game's cutscenes, even if they're a bit dated. A lot of the voice lines in the originals had a little bit more 'oomph' to 'em, and I really don't care for the World of Warcraft-compliant art style the modders went with.
The origonal was a CGI cutscene, in remake looks like they just repurposed models for clunky cinimatics. Cannon stuffers are long two handed things, not some kind of one handed thing. Everything is wow cartoonified.
okay for the opening how the hell is the original still better then the remake? I watched the remake on that first one and the orignal arrival of the horde fleet is better then the remake. Like how? The remake was goofy AF. the originals are better then all the remakes.
Let me get this straight: It‘s 2024 yet they can‘t do an animation where a soldier grabs a sword? But they could do thst for the original? Original looks so much better damn😂
Clearly prefer the old one. As well done the mod is, it is still ingame engine that holds it back from being an actual cinematic, so that is already a point to WC2. WC2 is also just the original and more nostalgic, so another point for them~
I hate the look of Wow Charecter rips into Warcraft 2 b/c the cinematics were so dark and the artwork was dark and grimm and now this is like kiddie shit absolutly hate it.
the older ones are still far superior in execution, the wc3 models and effects are still terrible in animation. even if they are remastered. but the job is still better than what blizz did with the remaser of wc2
las "cinematicas" de opening etc.. mejoraron y se nota.. pero las cinematicas post quests.. como la tortuga y la pila de cuerpos prendida fuego HORRIBLE.. la de tortugas se nota como devora de a poco el cuerpo de los humanos mientras que el remake es un "skill" de devorar de una bestia kodo jajajajaj horrible.. lo de la tumba de sargeras es increible que el lore es muy dificil de entender pero aca voy.. durante la invacion de la legion contra los elfos de la noche, la guerra donde ilidan se vuelve "el traidor" por primera vez.. y se vuelve un dh.. la legion fue a hablar con elysande.. la lider de los nato nocturnos en esa epoca.. (esto 10 mil años antes de que guldan fuera a la tumba por primera vez en warcraft 2). la legion tomo la ciudad de los nato nocturnos, matan a los que no se unieron.. y a cambio de no tocar la ciudad pidieron que les entreguen a sus mejores magos, juren lealtad y poder ir a la tumba de sargeras.. DESDE ACA.. la tumba esta llena de demonios.. guldan fue a la tumba sin saber nada de esto.. la legion no le informo nada porque sabian que el bobo iva a tratar de robarles.. bien jugado kil jaden.. por eso cuando abre las puertas de la tumba, un guardia apocaliptico corre a el y lo extermina sin mediar palabra, porque nadie debia ir hasta que kil jaden volviera.. y voy a decir que la original es mejor porque el demonio parece lo que es.. un guardia vil implacable con sus ojos malignos brillando en una obscurar implacable, hasta que un orco cojo y mal herido abre la puerta.. y bueno.. lo mata :D la caida de lordaeron esta bien.. excelente diria porque hiceron el trono, la corona y la estetica de la ciudad acorde a warcraft 3.. no tengo quejas de ese remake.. y si.. asi somos los fans.. somos muy criticos con un juego que tiene mas de 30 años..
![Warcraft 2 Remastered Human Campaign Speedrun [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1a-JpcFN4ZI/mqdefault.jpg)
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For the full story of "Warcraft: Chronicles of the Second War": ua-cam.com/video/aWjQKiHlKPk/v-deo.html
Tbh W2 only needs some polishing and upscaling I say.
But it's quite respectful, how W3 Reforged is actually being used for something good.
not a problem with an RX amd card
Warcraft graphics peaked with WC2.
hooo boy do I have news for you
oh i know some more adds tha like to help that game. chain production. better GUIs. i testet this morning a WC2 custom campoin in Wc3 and i was much better then then WC2. but sadly it is a broken campain by now....i came jsut to the second mission bc it can be collected wood
Be careful of what you wish for. 😂
Someone at Blizz must be "why do we have a spike of sold Warcraft 3 reforged?"
Yes, Blizzard should pay the fan developers a cut for this.
If they have a sale rn for Reforged I'd buy it
correct! I refunded my copy and rebought in early 2023 anticipating this.
Meanwhile also in Blizz "we don't know!!"
lol
A friend of mine just bought the game after I showed him this mod.
Ah, yes, back when Azeroth was a kingdom and not a whole world, that is my sauce...
I think Azeroth is still a kingdom name...wait, it's Stormwind now, isn't it?
@@powerist209 kingdoms name is lordaeron
@@PaladineAvenger1 Lordaeron is the northern kingdom and is separate from Stormwind in the south.
Lordaeron is up in Eastern Kingdoms. The kingdom that was called Azeroth in WC2 is the Kingdom of Stormwind. There was also Kingdom of Gilneas, Kingdom of Stromgarde and Kingdom of Alterac bordering Lordaeron.
I thought Azeroth was the entire continent, which they changed to The Eastern Kingdoms when they decided the whole world was to be called Azeroth.
It's even got Azeroth written over it in the biggest font in the original cinematic for WoW. The font size for Khaz Modan comes close, but I'm pretty sure Azeroth is still writ bigger and appears sooner to juxtapose the name of Kalimdor.
Warcraft 1 and 2 didn't tell much of a story in cutscenes
But this remake mod did
These modders are doing better than Blizzard
Mods are successful 10% of the time, but when they are they do better than the devs 100% of the time
The cutscenes in original warcraft 2 are a piece of art
@@joseffranz3872 well we got to remember that these people do it all for free and during their freetime. Thats why its rare to see such high quality such as this and Black Mesa for example
I think the fact that they didn't tell much made it that much better and suspenseful.
I disagree, this only compares the original game cutscenes to the versions in the remake. The modders in the remake have way more cutscenes here and they go on FOREVER. It is the definition of expository lore dumps. I don't feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm dealing with an interactive Wikipedia writeup. Furthermore, the OG CG is way better then what's on display here given what tech they had. The CG has that early 90s look that is unique for what it is. The lighting is really bad in the new remake. The tomb scene looks awful.
To be honest, I prefer the originals. The character models might be incredibly dated, but in terms of cinematography/shot composition, the originals cut scenes are far better.
Well yeah because they are actually done by a professional dev team...
@@vadar6255 Back when blizzard could be considered professional
@@ElPeppito Lol its still professional, I just think their direction is different. Quality probably mattered a lot more back then given lack of sufficient animation and fluid gameplay.
I might be wrong but isn't warcraft 2 cinematic actual animations? Instead of game assets being put together.
yepp
Intro is just not the same without Bill Roper's iconic narration.
Also, I liked originak soundtrack much better.
It's the most impressive thing I saw made in Reforged nonetheless.
the war turtles in original is piece of art
Well, hard to say, because original cinematics been render animations and Remake ones - in-game engine.
Original’s is more movie like, and Remake’s is pretty immersive.
I like the classic original when warcraft was dark and gritty and trying to be serious. The horde was evil and didn't need some backstop and motivation. They saught the downfall of man and man just wanted to survive. Orcs didn't have feelings. They just zug zug.
Well they were possessed by demon blood, so there is that... While the Orcs did seek more power(hence the blood), they weren't complete savages either. Orcs never straight up slaughtered each other before either, like when you straight up overthrow Blackhand. Orcs believe in honour, and under normal circumstances there would of been Mak'Gora to determine the new Warchief. While I do agree that orcs are too soft now, I do like that they were never actually mindless drones.
That's the new lore since WC3. Back then in WC2 days orcs were just evil.
@@Gutigwolfe WoD speaks otherwise, even without demon power a orc is still a savage and wants war
@dragoonofdarkness1826 war with Honour, not just storming cities and wiping out the civilians. Orcs believed Combat was a sign of strength and power. War to them was a competition, not just mindless killing.
@Gutigwolfe they most certainly wanted to kill for killing. Not honour.
I prefer the original its not about the looks, but the narration for example, its peak childhood memory time.
Okay boomer
I agree. This makes the game play look better, but the new scenes don't hold a candle to the original cinematics.
@@rockybeats8682because it's made ingame and not a 3D animating software
If we compare the atmosphere of those cinematics with the DF cinematics, good Lord, how this became so childhish.
Underpaid terminally online twitter activist millennials in the writing staff and adhd zoomer furries in the target audience.
Dragonflight's version of this would probably be a whole scene where the king laments the fall of his kingdom and then one of his subjects shouts, "Together!!!, for Azeroth"
Warcraft 2 was my first entry to the fantasy world when i was young. I loved the artwork so much, the darkness of the universe. I was so sad when warcraft 3 arrived, with the cartoon style...
Well that something we don't see often in Warcraft game: Pirate-style orcs. Just like in the Warcraft 2 box art along with a Imperial-style human, even though the game is set in the medieval age. May be due to the new ship warfare that Warcraft 1 didn't have.
Reminds me of why I used to love warcraft. Before, everyone was "good" and it was about war. Not let's sit and understand each other.
Story becomes borning if it was just Horde and Alliance fighting and fighting and fighting.
They can't really develop a story till one side is wiped out or they actually make peace and understand there is far worse things out there.
And a lot things make sense like the burning legion and the void thing except for shadow land @@TheMarquisLovenorn
I think my favorite thing about the original was how absolutely brutal the orcs were, but they still had cute voices "sla-bo"
War3 is a lot more cartooney. War2 has this semi-realistic, brownish gritty feel, comparable to D1 and Draenor with its mushroom trees having
Original. Simply because of the Orc clobbering dispensed at 6:04.
Original W1 and W2 had an atmosphere that where similar to Diablo 1. More serious and mature. When it went cartoon it turned to sh. Original cinematic are better.
Well the ingame graphics of WC2 were actually already really colorful/cartoonish, it was just in the pre-rendered cinematics as well as Metzen's drawings where the artstyle was darker and more close to Diablo
@@Balnazzardi I had no problem with ingame graphics in wc2. They did not brake atmosphere for me. Even WC3 was good for me, but that was wen cartoon look started. I think they went from games for grown up audience to kids. You cant portray a serious theme with cartoon characters. All that Styrofoam swords and cartoon armor destroyed the atmosphere. Turned it to TV novella for kids.
@@harbinger200 Well depends on the cartoon but the style of cartoon blizzard has become obsessed with using is kid-only, tragically.
@@harbinger200 Bruh, I would not say kids is the audience target. There is a reason his game is 13+ for teenagers and adults.
You can't say that the style alone changes the audience. You can still show a serious theme with the style WoW has now.
Astonishing work!
Both? Both. Both! Both is good.
Agree
Como se extraña cuando Warcraft era una historia era mas sencilla.
Orco vs humanos
Paladines de luz 🌟
vs
adoradores de demonios, hechiceros y eso 😈
Ojala hagan un remake del 1 y el 2
I'm all in for a remake or a remaster of this game
It is truly amazing that more money, and bigger studio does not make for better quality. The animations in the original just seem to look better as well. I will give you that it all looks dated but it still looks far more epic and grand on the scale of the fleets shown in the first, where the 2nd looks like a coastal raiding party. The remake looked rather cheap and thrown together or put out by a team of people putting out their very first game. Blizzard should just stop putting out remakes if they can not just leave the original feel of the game alone. They don't need the warcraft 3 cartoon look.
It's the boss that told them to do whether he wants
Using ingame models and the cinematic tools have its drawbacks, the camerawork is much poorer compared to the old cinematics and the animations ironically feel more stiff
But I appreciate what is accomplished, though if possible it might be better for someone to animate the scenes with the ingame assets rather than use the World Editor camera and built-in unit animations
You’re asking a lot for a small passionate team and the drawbacks come from how unoptimized the game is from the Blizzard developers so the HiveWorkShop team can only work with what the engine offers and they also pushed the world editor passed it’s limits which is highly impressive considering how much the editor needs improvement and fixing.
@@vmac8972 I assumed you can insert custom cinematics into custom campaigns but if that's isn't the case the team has my condolences cause that just sucks
@@alex_ho
You can, but that'd probably cost them too much.
@@thepieofyourlife4799 on the bright side, they do have the models for a cinematic
So that's like, 1 part down, the whole animating part they'll probably need to hire somebody else to do so, which would be expensive
Their best bet is for someone with the experience and passion to do it for free
Strange feels, original looks like life, remake looks like game!
The art direction has changed greatly over the years.
Originals had more variation in motion while the remakes were more stiff and robotic
This was made all in-engine with the editor? That's quite impressive
AMAZING WORK
Personally, I still prefer the original. All the cutscenes playout like an actual movie (in glorious 480p lol) in the original, where as the remake just looks stiff, twitchy, and awkward because its just running from the game engine.
It's really cool! I will say though that one feels like a cinematic, the other feels like an in-game cutscene. But for what it is, it's great, and it serves its purpose very well.
Cool video but as a lore nerd i have to ask why did you use Stromgarde soldiers to man the wall instead of Lordaeron?
Because that cinematic shows the fall of the Kingdom of Azeroth to the Orcish Horde. Lore-wise, the colour of Azeroth is orange. The first human mission in the game happen after Azeroth refugee migrated to Lordaeron and form the Alliance, which is why human units in that mission wear wear Lordaeron's blue.
Also you have to remember that in Warcraft 2, there is only 2 human kingdom in existence, which is Azeroth and Lordaeron, so Stormgarde technically didn't exist. Due to amnesia, Blizzard renamed the Kingdom of Azeroth to Stormwind in Warcraft 3. They literally forgot the name of the kingdom and instead pick the Stormwind simply because that is the final town of Azeroth that the Alliance liberated and therefore was mentioned directly in cinematics.
@@13gan Orange was the Kingdom of Alterac. You are mistaken about there being only 2 human kingdoms. Remember how at the end of Warcraft 2 King Perenold in Alterac betrayed the humans and let the orcs pass the mountain pass, If there are only 2 human kingdoms like you said, then how was there Kul'Tiras, Gilneas and Alterac. I think you should respectfully go back and learn the lore more before commenting.
Ah... I've heard the sound the cannons made when moved in so many games...
Also, Gul'dan opening the Tomb looked like a Jawa.
In Rise of Alliance, Horde ending would be nightmare of Lothar. And it should have tutorial mission similar to the utter darkness. Hold and kill as much orcs as possible till last of human has fallen(in late wave, Daemons would appear, and consume orcs as well).
some comments seem not to take into consideration the fact that the videos in the mod are made with the graphics and animations of the game, so inevitably they are less "realistic" and less "dark" graphically. If anything I would be surprised at the incredible result achieved...
this looks great, I still just rather play the GoG version, but nice for those that prefer the upgraded visuals. What I would like is the old cinematics redone with better visuals, but use a film grain and add a cool filter to make it look more washed out, while being a bit easier on the eyes. I am also quite fond of the old cartoon style, and with the updated version it looks good still IMO, however, this still would be nice to try regardless, just never purchased reforged yet.
The turtle one is some decent work for being wrung out of War3's scripting.
How can we play w2 now? Any opportunity?
They actually just added it to the Blizzard store. It's cheap. $10.
I'm glad they made the Human campaign of WC2 the canon version, and the Orcs version of WC1 canon.. makes things way more interesting lol.
Warcraft 2 holds up. It's so much fun! If they just modified the aspect ratio and resolution and modernized the controls a bit. I'd buy it just to play with friends and family
No se porq pero antes le ponian cariño a las cinematicas , las vez y no se si es la ambientacion , la musica o los buenos graficos( para ese tiempo eran graficos buenos) pero te da ganas de jugar toda la campaña
4:40 original "random demon" looks way more scary than the remake almost-human-faced cow dude. The latter is more detailed for sure, just missing the point.
He Is just a random demon. Not Sargeras
@@Sebalarios corrected :D it still stays :)
unlikely but it would be cool if modders could get permission to use the og narration audio for their versions of the cinimatics.
someone modded in the voices with the WC1 remake, so I don't see why they couldn't do the same here, as long as it's free.
Monch 🐢
Honestly, love the effort, but the render stutter from the reforged engine rework really shows. But love the fan made effort.
I appreciatee the effort for sure, but like the first one better oddly. Maybe cause there is no narration in the 2nd?
THe OG movie version is better in lmost all respects (in large part because of the voice acting and smoothness of actions outside of the game engine.However the fan RM includes far more actual characters and while the looks are worse and they lack voice acting They feel more in line with the further characterization both races and their leaders gained over the course of even just War3 let alone WoW. I will say the only scene that is overall improved is the fall of Lordaeron mostly because of how much better they portrayed Teranas/the generic human king.
i prefer the original as it still has the originality because its original and has the originality
5:05 This music from TBC?
The choreography of the original was better. Particularly the first and final scenes. Like in the last one, on original, the Orc ran and jumped at the knight to knock him off...Savage.
On remake, Orc ran up, stopped, swung axe, and knight stopped and fell over.
Some of vanilla WoW models are from 1995, the dude's armor and a sword at 6:01 at least.
I prefer the originals. The remakes are more reimagined.. I would have been fine with extra details in each shot, but the shots themselves are totally different, and less cinematic.
I feel as if the concept of the cutscenes is to drive the story of the game, but also to illustrate the in game world better for our imaginations.
These are in game graphics as well, whereas the cutscenes of old were properly animated, and done at a lower frame rate that had the 24fps filmic look, not soap opera smooth frame-rates that make things less dramatic. Finally, the music is mixed into the background, which gives the feeling you’re still playing the game.
Chronicles of the Second War is a masterpiece!
Sorry me to for the original, spirit is lost in production.
Wow!
The new ones are pretty bad in terms of animations, camera positions, sounds and order of actions.
Attack on Stromgarde: why are they loading the cannons that weird? Why is the bell sounded AFTER everyone in the military was fully prepared?
Orcs being Orcs: yep, we also light up pyres by just standing next to it holding a torch.
War Turtles: its okayish.
Tomb of Sargeras: the demon does not charge out of the tomb and there are no battle noises...
The fall of Loraeron: goofy signal to fire the catapults. Why is the king commanding the guards when it's already too late? In the original he was frightened to death and didn't react, but this?
There is a special dark atmosphere in the original ones, the mod did not save that. But still a very good job😘
I will say the new in game models look great, I don't like changing all the cutscenes from cutscenes to in game plays. It doesn't have the same charm.
I prefer the originals to the in game remakes, mostly due to the voice lines being gone and Terenas looks like he's going to make a final noble stand as opposed to being absolutely terrified in the original. However the Demon and Turtle ones are really well done
Orcs got a lot of characterization on the remake, only fair humans get some too. Terenas going out swinging is much more in line with his character than pathetically wimping away
They should've kept the narration
I just hope there will be a good wc3 remaster in a 10 years or later
i can buy it ?
Sooooo Beyond the Dark Portal when?
To each their own. I prefer the original cinematics. I respect the fans that put alot of work into making this, but the warcraft 3 reforged engine can not compete with real cinematics imo.
How to play remake Warcraft 2? It’s mod for Warcraft reforged?
Yes, you need Warcraft 3 Reforged first. Then you can download the mod for free here:
www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/chronicles-of-the-second-war-tides-of-darkness.327574/
@@GameIntrosFinales thx
I prefer the remake. I met this universe first in Warcraft III. Warcraft II. was too cartoonish for me. So, this remake reached it's goal and told the story of Warcraft II to an other audience.
The first half the old one was better but the other half i liked the new ones more.
orignals have the sauce.. new ones are welcomed as a an game engine recreations
RIP King Terenas.
I had no idea original was so much better 😮
Is it a fandom right?
But Terenas did not fall against The orcs...
Orcs campaign are not canon in warcraft 2, well kinda
Ya, just noticed it was during the war of Gilneas and he was old af at the time anyways.
@@iusemyrealnamebefore Yeah. In Rise of alliance, it would be prologue which is Turalyon's nightmare, and this misson would be like the utter darkness in Warcraft, which endures with killing lots of orcs(and daemons in late wave) as possible until last one of human has fallen. No hero respawn. Which becomes the reason why Alliance has been assembled between human kingdoms. Turalyon realizes the need of alliance by this dream.
how to download game
I think the warcraft series cost money and are to be purchased online and it's a PC game
Kool vid
Thanks!
The cinematography of the old game was better. You can feel the dread, hopelessness, and fear in the humans. While the newer videos are too lighted, the humans look more like movie set props.
The orcs look more like marauding monsters in the first game. And look too human in the new trailer.
But it's just a preference.
The original’s graphics may be dated…
But at least I can take it seriously.
That is not Terenas...That is King Llane Wrynn
No, it was always terenas. Llane Wrynn die at the end of Warcraft 1
Сколько лорных лет прошло между 1-2 и 3 варкрафтом? Разве их амуниция не должна выглядеть по-другому?
What's wrong with them? Why cannoneres can't get just into the hole of gun? And other stuff.
I prefer the original game's cutscenes, even if they're a bit dated. A lot of the voice lines in the originals had a little bit more 'oomph' to 'em, and I really don't care for the World of Warcraft-compliant art style the modders went with.
This whole thing alone is already better than all of that fcuked up Reforged BS
Blizzard is the master of halfassedness
The origonal was a CGI cutscene, in remake looks like they just repurposed models for clunky cinimatics.
Cannon stuffers are long two handed things, not some kind of one handed thing.
Everything is wow cartoonified.
I vote for old version
okay for the opening how the hell is the original still better then the remake? I watched the remake on that first one and the orignal arrival of the horde fleet is better then the remake. Like how? The remake was goofy AF. the originals are better then all the remakes.
Original for cinemaphothtapher
i say ... that old cinematics are 10000% better
I would buy this!
Looks like demake not remake
i dont think you could have beat the turtle one
wait there is a Warcraft II remake?
Yes, make by fans in Warcraft reforged
Let me get this straight: It‘s 2024 yet they can‘t do an animation where a soldier grabs a sword? But they could do thst for the original? Original looks so much better damn😂
But the orcs diden't take Lordaeron.
There's Orc campaign in WC2 that's not canon and ended up by orcs winning and taking Lordaeron
if the orcs won Wc2, people will not be whining on how WOW turned out
But why make that? Like they should make an alternetive lore by having Arthas not cull Stratholme then else it's horde bias.@@MrSergore
It'd Lordaeron, where now the Undeads live, not Stormwind.
huh?@@acb1511
Ещё одна черепаха добралась до моря
El original porque la voz del narrador le da más vida
Dabu!ZugZug
А где синемаьтики Альянса?
Clearly prefer the old one. As well done the mod is, it is still ingame engine that holds it back from being an actual cinematic, so that is already a point to WC2. WC2 is also just the original and more nostalgic, so another point for them~
original are more consistant i think.
I hate the look of Wow Charecter rips into Warcraft 2 b/c the cinematics were so dark and the artwork was dark and grimm and now this is like kiddie shit absolutly hate it.
yay
the older ones are still far superior in execution, the wc3 models and effects are still terrible in animation. even if they are remastered. but the job is still better than what blizz did with the remaser of wc2
las "cinematicas" de opening etc.. mejoraron y se nota.. pero las cinematicas post quests.. como la tortuga y la pila de cuerpos prendida fuego HORRIBLE.. la de tortugas se nota como devora de a poco el cuerpo de los humanos mientras que el remake es un "skill" de devorar de una bestia kodo jajajajaj horrible..
lo de la tumba de sargeras es increible que el lore es muy dificil de entender pero aca voy..
durante la invacion de la legion contra los elfos de la noche, la guerra donde ilidan se vuelve "el traidor" por primera vez.. y se vuelve un dh.. la legion fue a hablar con elysande.. la lider de los nato nocturnos en esa epoca.. (esto 10 mil años antes de que guldan fuera a la tumba por primera vez en warcraft 2). la legion tomo la ciudad de los nato nocturnos, matan a los que no se unieron.. y a cambio de no tocar la ciudad pidieron que les entreguen a sus mejores magos, juren lealtad y poder ir a la tumba de sargeras.. DESDE ACA.. la tumba esta llena de demonios..
guldan fue a la tumba sin saber nada de esto.. la legion no le informo nada porque sabian que el bobo iva a tratar de robarles.. bien jugado kil jaden.. por eso cuando abre las puertas de la tumba, un guardia apocaliptico corre a el y lo extermina sin mediar palabra, porque nadie debia ir hasta que kil jaden volviera.. y voy a decir que la original es mejor porque el demonio parece lo que es.. un guardia vil implacable con sus ojos malignos brillando en una obscurar implacable, hasta que un orco cojo y mal herido abre la puerta.. y bueno.. lo mata :D
la caida de lordaeron esta bien.. excelente diria porque hiceron el trono, la corona y la estetica de la ciudad acorde a warcraft 3.. no tengo quejas de ese remake..
y si.. asi somos los fans.. somos muy criticos con un juego que tiene mas de 30 años..